NSMB: The Rainbow Quest

[lapis bough]

This is a full 8-world hack that we, the Rainbow Dashers (Cloudie64, Ninetie90s and I), are currently making, with new themes, new levels, new textures, music from other mario games, etc...

We'll be reusing some ideas from my abandoned hack "NSMB DS Deluxe" (which you can find here #"NSMB DS "Deluxe", an old goofy hack i made")

Our goal is to make a fun hack, with good level design, a refreshing feel, and bring our own touch of originality.

[idk what else to say so i'll probably continue later]

Progress
World 1: 90%
World 2: 10%
World 3: 10%
World 4: 10%
World 5: 0%
World 6: 10%
World 7: 0%
World 8: 0%

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208478549380431872/1306356737581908079/NSMBTLS_new4_RainbowDashers05ba.png?ex=67365f05&is=67350d85&hm=3a2eb2fba238e4b7d218b7b83d85df10d72125520763c739430edb2bcbc7aa0b&

[lofty forge]

Looking forward to play this game when its finished

its already looking very good!

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

i'll record some gameplay then send it here

[lofty forge]

thats good

[lapis bough]

nvm i need to change back mario's colors first

[lofty forge]

okay!

[outer juniper]

Strange case of someone making more than one hack. In the future, please show off new mods in #nsmb-showcase to "request" making a new project post

[lapis bough]

oh sorry about that

didnt i ask for this weeks ago tho?

idk

but its noted

[outer juniper]

You asked about DX, not this one

[lapis bough]

ok

[outer juniper]

Again, not the end of the world

[lapis bough]

i'll try to remember next time, sorry about that

[lofty forge]

thats what my mom always tell me when i failed an exam 💀

[outer juniper]

Lmao

[lapis bough]

Previous progress:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1078818558991138888/1102233879261233222/NSMB_TLS_1-1_v1.mp4?ex=65db48cb&is=65c8d3cb&hm=f7d53d0194e50085ceca0f49a243dc318896bb8fcabd843ac7c0c9f7b07bc31f&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1078818558991138888/1102233879999434852/NSMB_TLS_1-2_v1.mp4?ex=65db48cb&is=65c8d3cb&hm=03cbc686433a7e597b83716559e3e69b63ebbd881dbd3e31fadb8ce090f3ca42&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1078818558991138888/1104480024259743805/New_Super_Mario_Bros._TLS_Checkpoint1.mp4?ex=65da3a2e&is=65c7c52e&hm=a14a687cb1612ff37f7b4e906b28ee27eaaf856d4b48fb114c74547dc58c3fdc&

[lapis bough]

most of the stuff here is outdated but i still send it here to show progess

[zinc rivet]

This hack is good

[lapis bough]

thanks!

currently trying to give mario and luigi smw colors

slowly but surely

[maiden leaf]

I was referring to the first hack in this, but yeah mb I should've made it more clear

[lapis bough]

i thought the role allowed you to make posts, not limited to 1

[outer juniper]

Yes, but each hack still needs to be approved

Technically the permissions are set up where you can make however many

But we're just going on the honor system for that

[lapis bough]

alright

[lapis bough]

after an hour my eyes hurt...

[lofty forge]

oh uh

[lapis bough]

i spent less time than this

but i started 1 hour ago

and my eyes hurt

it works tho, and they look cool!

[lapis bough]

smw colors for mario and luigi (forgot to send them earlier)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

im so dumb

i replaced mario's head...

i gotta do it again...

i fixed it now

[lofty forge]

nice

[lapis bough]

1-1

1-2

1-3

separate messages because of discord's goofy max file size limit :P

[junior junco]

I would check that stuff out and give advice but my shift starts in one min

Ill give some feeling like six hours

[lapis bough]

alright

Bonus: unfinished version of 1-Tower

[lapis bough]

at some point i get warped to the next view randomly. its a warp entrance that im using for testing

[outer juniper]

NSMB Central stripes detected

[lapis bough]

yeah lmao

[outer juniper]

Hack is looking good, good work

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[maiden leaf]

yeah it's looking great, big step up from your first hack

I like how you did the mario wonder thing and replaced the score popups with words

[maiden leaf]

I feel like you're introducing a bit too many gimmicks too quickly in this

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lapis bough]

its supposed to be the "pivot tower" (or clock tower), but yeah maybe

i wanted to focus on switches and rotating/tilting platforms

[lapis bough]

i wanted to make it so 1-Castle would be Twomps' Castle, just like in my old hack...

but in 2-Castle i recently got the idea of making the twomps "spawn" with "?" switches, as well as other enemies (its a bit more complicated than that but i dont wanna ruin the surprise)

[lapis bough]

inspired by another hack btw

[junior junco]

The levels look solid

the criticism I have is how the hack uses nsmbwii's jyotuy tileset, nsmbu goombas and koopas, nsmbus beta pipe graphic

it feels off to me having all those diffrent styles mashed together

but that comes down to your preference

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

the pipes are actually custom tho, but yeah its true that there's a slight style clash

[lapis bough]

finished 1-Tower i think

might need a few adjustments tho

[lapis bough]

i think i will make 1-5 "Hammer Bros. Passage" or something, with a sunset silhouette effect

[lofty forge]

alright

[lapis bough]

i'll record 1- then i will make a new jyotyu tileset (or at least an attempt at it)

[lofty forge]

goodluck on it

happy

[lapis bough]

thanks!

i have some ideas already

like the brick block from smb3 but with wii style

[lofty forge]

nice

[lapis bough]

thanks

[zinc rivet]

On the bowser Jr battle of 1- of my hack i will use an silhouette effect since the battle will he on top of the tower

Ops reply ping sorry

[lapis bough]

cool idea

[lapis bough]

the level really needs some gameplay adjustments at the end

i need to re-record it, but later

[lofty forge]

alright

[lapis bough]

there's also the very janky bug with sliding combined + bowser jr

both ignore each other's collisions, and so you simply go through, which i find funny

[zinc rivet]

Lol

[lapis bough]

alright so for the bottom screens so far we have:

• NSMB Central stripes
• SMB Wonder beige background
• SMB3 1-1

i thought about making a sunset one, which could fit with the theme of the hack

if you have suggestions, feel free to tell them (i might pick more than 1)

gonna modify all of this 💀

keep in mind i already made the enemies tho

yeah its basically everything that use the jyotyu and enemy jyotyu palettes

[maiden leaf]

1856x47600 image lmao

[lapis bough]

yeah lol

most of the stuff is empty

[sour kettle]

whats the image

[lofty forge]

2.7MB for an png 💀

[lapis bough]

lmaoo i didnt notice

[lapis bough]

question block

yes i made it myself

might add a small detail in the shading

the 4 frames of animation

[lofty forge]

Nice!

[lapis bough]

thanks!

[sour kettle]

unique take on the block

howsit look in motion

[lapis bough]

thanks

[lapis bough]

havent tested

i got inspired by an image with different animation frames of the block, but i cant find it

i'll send it here if i do

wait no wrong one

[lapis bough]

i have no idea what the image is but i got inspired by it

[zinc rivet]

My one looks an cube

When it animate

Like the one from the beta

[lapis bough]

oh cool!

[lapis bough]

Waterfall backround (from smw beta)

not animated yet, but i can do it. idk what slot to replace tho

i plan to use it for world 3

[zinc rivet]

It fit very well on nsmbds

When i messed up with SMW this bg was on files, but corrupted

[lapis bough]

oh ok

[lapis bough]

true

[lapis bough]

didnt know it was still in-game
yeah it was a bit corrupted but i removed the wrong tiles

[lapis bough]

gray jyotyu palette for castles, like in the original smb

flames in the background broke tho, probably because of the tileset slot

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[lofty forge]

nice

also is this a bg glitch?

wait

[zinc rivet]

Animation glitch

[lapis bough]

yeah thats what i was talking about

[lapis bough]

^

yeah its the tileset slot causing this, ive tested

[lapis bough]

messing around with roulette block item values... causes insane lag (and buggy graphics) with some of them

it also displays textures for unused power ups and the growing vine

[zinc rivet]

LOL THE UNUSED ⚡️

[lapis bough]

yeah lol

hitting the blocks usually spawns a puff of smoke or a regular item, sometimes in a way that is not intended from hitting a block (like item from inventory kind of spawn)

[lapis bough]

ive spent hours and now it gives me an error :(

i'll try to fix this tomorrow i guess

[sour kettle]

you could try clicking export bitmaps with all palettes and seeing if the export inage size matches 5he one your trying to ompirt

import

[lapis bough]

yeah they dont match

ive been trying to fix that for too long now...

[lapis bough]

some jyotyu stuff. the dark version will be used for silhouette levels

[sour kettle]

outta curiosity howsit look when moving

[lapis bough]

there will be a video for this

Brick and question blocks were made by me, the coins are from nsmb2

[sour kettle]

those bricks seem neat

[lapis bough]

1- + jyotyu stuff in action
and janky bossfight

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[sour kettle]

ah so its supposed to look like the question mark is spinning

[lapis bough]

yeah

[sour kettle]

seems to work pretty alright

[lapis bough]

thanks

[sour kettle]

btw mind if i give a suggestion about the mario 3 bottom screen

[lapis bough]

yeah

you can

[sour kettle]

maybe you could try lowering the contrast on it

[lapis bough]

oh ok

[sour kettle]

sorta likehow the mario 1 style bottom screen from the base vame looks sorta faded

[lapis bough]

yeah i think i can do that

when i'll continue with bottom screen stuff i'll try to do that

[sour kettle]

mmkay

[lapis bough]

thanks :)

[lapis bough]

Silhouette effect

[lofty forge]

looks very cool if its in a hard level where you cannot see much

[lapis bough]

thanks!

its supposed to be for a somewhat easy level tho, maybe for harder ones later too

[zinc rivet]

This coin is from newer?

If yes, you have the sprite of this? I could use it on my hack

[lapis bough]

not from newer, but yeah i have the sprites of them

do you want the original sheet or the one that is part of my hack?

[zinc rivet]

The original one

[lapis bough]

ok

this: from nsmb2

[zinc rivet]

THX BRO :D

[lapis bough]

no problem :)

[zinc rivet]

(I put 2 * to make the discord emoji dont apear lol)

[lapis bough]

ok

[lapis bough]

i want 1-5 to have hammer bros

but i feel like its a bad idea, especially this early into the game

the level uses the silhouette effect btw

[maiden leaf]

nah that could be cool

really depends on how you use them

[lapis bough]

alright

i'll try not to spam them too much lol

probably putting like 6 in the level

[maiden leaf]

yeah don't make it a mario maker level

[lapis bough]

yeah lol

[lapis bough]

im making color variations to the sewers palette, so i can have 1 tileset with 4 palettes

the thing is that i need ideas for color variations that i (or anyone else) might use for the hack. i will probably post the tileset in #1207793065524199455 since its a simple color adjustment

wait idk if its better to send it in #nsmb-chat or #nsmb-showcase

[lofty forge]

showcase

[lapis bough]

ok

[lofty forge]

because you are showcasing your tileset

[lapis bough]

but its for my hack

so idk

[lofty forge]

oh

[lapis bough]

alright so here's a lot of the level ideas that i have (not in a specific order, except for worlds):

• moving/tilting mushrooms (sky)

• bouncy clouds (sky)

• jumping cheep cheeps with sunset and silhouette effect

• twomps castle (w1) done

• spike (desert temple cave sorta) done

• swelling ground

• pokey

• moving stone walls (tower)

• bring back to life enemies trapped in sandstone (w2 castle, like newer wii)

• skeeters (w3)

• unagi's depths (underwater)

• flooded sewers (w3)

• pipe bubbles (underwater)

• sunset silhouette again

• lakitu

• sunken ghost ship?

• (sunken?) airship

• scuttlebugs (forest)

• wigglers (forest)

• giant wiggler ride (forest)

• poisonous sewers

• dorrie?

• haunted forest (similar to "painted swamplands)

• another haunted level?

• snow spike

• huge snowballs (which act like spikeballs)

• aurora borealis silhouette thing (inspired from the cancelled nsml hack)

• bullet bills?

• frozen cave?

• snailicorns

• rotating rooms (ghost house, like in 8- in the main game)

• rainy construction site/city + paratroopas

• construction site

• boomerang and hammer bros

• rope platforms and swinging ropes

• factory (bob-ombs and bullet bills)

• rolling barrels, jump up super star (inspired by that one mario odyssey mission)

• bowser's secret sewers (w6 castle, with lava)

• skeleton roller coaster (inspired by nsmbwii)

• snailicorns (kinda like with bullies with sm64)

• barrels (will probably be a tricky level)

• lava cave?

• fast climbing lava level (like in newer wii)

• bomb spikes (like newer ds)

not for a specific world:

• tilting mushrooms (mentioned earlier)
• at least 3 other cave levels, one in w3, w4, w5 and w8
• ghost house with clones
• 2 or 3 autoscrolliing levels, inspired by smb3
• blockhoppers
• castle with climbable metallic fences
• conveyer belts
• purple mushrooms

[note to myself: might serve as a future reference]

[lapis bough]

i have way too much ideas, but way too little time and motivation to actually make them 😔

[junior junco]

felt

[sour kettle]

the water bugs are called skeeters n the spiders are called scuttlebugs

for the contsruction levels have you considered using graphics from that one trampoline minigame

feels pretty contructiony

[lapis bough]

yeah i thought about that, thanks tho

[lapis bough]

i forgot the name for the skeeters and i had a doubt for the scuttlebugs, thanks

[lapis bough]

working on 1-5

[maiden leaf]

good idea leaving the goomba eyes white

[lapis bough]

yeah i took it from mario wonder

thanks

[maiden leaf]

oh yeah

[lapis bough]

a few months ago, i tested the hack on real hardware (twilight menu ++), but when i entered 1-1, it crashes. i know this issue can happen whenever the level has too many objects, but mine didnt have a lot. So, is it because of the amount of objects, the "increase sound heap" code hack, or something else?

[lapis bough]

• purple mushrooms

[lapis bough]

79 levels in total in the game

i have ~51 ideas

[lapis bough]

i kinda wanna make a custom power up, but that would be waaaay too complicated for me

[sour kettle]

what would it be if you could make one

[maiden leaf]

switch to the new template and I could help you

[lapis bough]

would still be hard

[lapis bough]

most likely a flight power up

i thought about making it so you could press A for the mini mushroom to jump mid-air, but that would probably be overpowered

but it would be hard to control at the same time

[maiden leaf]

that's crazy op

[lapis bough]

yeah lol

[sour kettle]

how would it work

[lapis bough]

the other thing i thought about would be the racoon power up from smb3

[maiden leaf]

putting the tail on mario would be hard

making it look good at least

[lapis bough]

yeah

unless we animate it like the blue shell model

[maiden leaf]

is the blue shell even animated tho

[lapis bough]

idk

[lapis bough]

alright so i got this (i can easily modify the top screen

[lapis bough]

yeah the bottom screen buttons still technically work which is a shame

anyway, i thought about changing the boss damage/hp values to make them harder to defeat

like making them require 5 hits instead of 3

[lapis bough]

i'll probably switch to the new template

[outer juniper]

Yes, this is the way

[junior junco]

Based

[lapis bough]

still trying to switch to the new template...

i think next step will be adding songs with nitro wav

[lapis bough]

succesfully switched to the new template

[junior junco]

based

[lapis bough]

yes lol

[lapis bough]

if i could compose a music for my rom hack, i would make a mashup of several credits themes from different games of the franchise

im probably gonna try making it myself actually

just writing the names here so i dont forget:

• smb3
• smw
• sm64
• smg (not the credits theme)
• nsmb ds
• nsmbwii
• smodyssey
• sml

[lapis bough]

i need a tower theme, a bowser jr theme

[lone jetty]

Bro, my hack's logo also has a mushroom, a star and a shell on its logo, seems that I'll have to change my hack's logo

This hack looks really cool btw, I wish you luck on it :DD

[lapis bough]

thanks!!!

[lapis bough]

i didnt have ideas so i put random power ups lol. this doesn't mean you need to change yours tho, you can keep it how it is

[lone jetty]

You're welcome mate

[lone jetty]

It's ok, it's just that I don't want people to think that we're copying each other ideas

Also, I'll have to import the 256 color codehack since my hack's logo looks glitchy when I import it

[lapis bough]

alright

[lapis bough]

i can try helping with that

[lone jetty]

Thanks man, I'd appreciate it a lot

[lapis bough]

no problem

[lone jetty]

Just wait a few days since I'm visiting another state and I didn't bring my computer with me

[lapis bough]

you can either use my "template" patch (which has some code hacks applied), or i can help you inserting code hacks yourself

[lone jetty]

Sounds good, actually, there are like two or three code hacks that I'd like to import in my hack

[lapis bough]

which ones?

[lone jetty]

256 colors logo and level intros

[lapis bough]

i have those

i can either do it for you, or help you do it

[lone jetty]

Sounds good, just wait until I come back to my house, I don't know how many days I'll be here

[lapis bough]

ok

[lone jetty]

Can you also help me editing some UI studio files? I tried to edit the bottom screen wallpapers but I failed miserably since they lost quality when imported

[lapis bough]

i might not be available as much as now starting from next week tho (vacations ending)

[lapis bough]

thats a bit complicated to explain it to someone, but i think i'll try

[lone jetty]

I'm not asking you to do it, but you could explain to me how to import pictures without losing quality, maybe importing pictures with less colors?

Since there are many color limitations in most of the UI Studio files

[lapis bough]

1. not necessarily
2. if you want something only on one palette, then keep it fully transparent on the other palettes, and nsmbe will fill it with the other colors automatically, which can reduce quality loss

[lone jetty]

I should have guessed it, since I think I saw something similar in the original files

[lapis bough]

i kinda lost motivation for making the hack (and a bunch of other stuff) so dont expect a lot of progress for a bit

and i wont have as much free time starting from next monday

[lone jetty]

Rest as much as you want man, sometimes I lose motivation too, so I understand you :/

[lapis bough]

thanks!

[lone jetty]

You're welcome 😉

[zinc rivet]

My one i wanted to make shell mario double jump and fall slow (only with A pressed btw)

The double jump would be like if the mario jumps and press A again it make another jump (and only do it again when touch the floor)

[zinc rivet]

It have a little animation for when mario climbs something, the shell have an little shrinking and returning to normal animation, idk if i explained it right lol

But its something like this

[lapis bough]

playing my hack on real hardware causes it to crash upon entering 1-1 for some reason

nds bootstrap at least

[lapis bough]

streamed music on real hardware is fire

(at least on the world map because the game crashes when entering a level for some reason)

[lapis bough]

yeah i talked about this issue already

[zinc rivet]

How streamed music works?

[lapis bough]

basically it will play converted wav files instead of sseq's

[zinc rivet]

Ohhh

So it's play the .wav's

Do you mind if use streamed music on my hack too? It looks amazing to use the wavs instead of the sseq's

[lapis bough]

why are you asking me permission lol, ofc you can

its not my own work or something

[zinc rivet]

Ohh oki, i will use it too

Thx man 😉

[lapis bough]

no problem :)

and you can use both: some songs can be sseq's, some others can be nwav files

[zinc rivet]

Ohhhh oki

It's good because the songs can have more instrumentals

[lapis bough]

yeah

[lapis bough]

im still hesitant about which theme to use for the beach theme

i have 4:

• Plessie Ride (BFury)
• Bianco Hills (SMS)
• Beach (SMWonder)
• Cheep Cheep Beach (MKDS, MK8 version)

and there will be another one which is "Fossil Falls" from SMOdyssey, for levels based around waterfalls

the w3 map theme will use the "Lake Lapart" theme from Bowser's Fury

oh and im using the sml2 athletic theme for... the athletic theme

[loud elm]

use the beach theme from sm3dl

its an absolute bop

[lapis bough]

newer ds uses it i think

but in sseq

[loud elm]

well it still is a bop

[lapis bough]

but yeah it sounds great

[lone jetty]

You know, there are many beach themes that are really good

[loud elm]

S M 3 D L

[lapis bough]

btw if you have music suggestions for world 5-8, feel free to tell me

[loud elm]

what theme?

[lapis bough]

for world 1, 2 i have ideas

[loud elm]

also, plessie is too upbeat

id say other than sm3dl, you should do cheepcheepbeach

also what theme is 5-8?

[lapis bough]

no i meant world 5 through 8

[lone jetty]

World 5 doesn't even have level 8 💀💀

[loud elm]

lol

what theme is w5

[lapis bough]

they are:

• Snow Summits
• Koopa Skyscrapers
• Near-Space Clouds (secret world)
• Bowser's Secret Lava Underground Domain (but a shorter name would be better)

[loud elm]

btw i love the custom jyotyu

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lone jetty]

But do you want themes for the worldmaps or levels in generak?

[lapis bough]

both

only the music themes tho

[loud elm]

yoi should rename koopa skyscrapers to koopa capital

[lapis bough]

for world 4 i hesitate between those:

• Lost Kingdom (SMO)
• Steam Gardens (SMO)
• Beehive Galaxy (SMG)
• calm music made by a friend of mine (originally for an sm64 hack)

i wanna use one for the wmap and one for the levels

[lone jetty]

https://youtu.be/bk9yt8ol4O4?si=Q5OKIbvY8VAqk46z

[loud elm]

lost kingdom

[lone jetty]

What about this song for Koopa Skycrapper?

[loud elm]

steam gardens for levels

[zinc rivet]

Yeah the jyotyu with the spining ? Is cool

[zinc rivet]

I was even going to put the animation of the ⛩️ block like an spining icon but i dont want to copy it lmao, but yeah, his jyotyu is amazing

[loud elm]

torii gate?

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[loud elm]

ok

[sour kettle]

whas the latter sound like

[lapis bough]

sounds pretty good, but i think i'll stick to mario music

[lapis bough]

i will try sending it

[loud elm]

snow summits: id say some mario kart theme

[lapis bough]

wait i'll ask my friend first

[loud elm]

maybe frappe snowland, or that theme from mksc

[lapis bough]

probably gonna use "new donk city" from smo

[sour kettle]

also if you cant pick one you could always go with a couple

[lone jetty]

What about DK summit from MKWii?

[sour kettle]

use em for different levels

[zinc rivet]

The song of sm64 snow is also fire

[loud elm]

id say moonview highway maybe

[lapis bough]

yeah i wanted to use one for the wmap and one or two for the levels

[loud elm]

overused

[zinc rivet]

(Not in the hole)

[lapis bough]

wait wait there's too much stuff at once lol

[lapis bough]

lmao

[zinc rivet]

On the sakura snow level i will use it

[loud elm]

true lol

[loud elm]

makes sense, newer uses it

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

Since the hack is over inspired by newer wii/ds

[loud elm]

over inspired by

[loud elm]

go for mario kart music, or PiT, or galaxy

theyre all bops

[lone jetty]

If you are going to use Mario Kart Snow themes, I would suggest DK Summit from Mario Kart Wii or Sherbet Land from Double Dash

Those are my favorite ones

I also made a Snow Land song with NSMB Soundfont

From Super Circuit

[loud elm]

i like sherbet land but its like i keep feeling like theres gonna be a musical reference to frappe snowland, but it gets frustrating

cuz theres none, (maybe one)

[lone jetty]

I wouldn't suggest Frappe Snowland from MK64 since it has been way overused in too many Mario Hacks

[loud elm]

not really, maybe 2-3

of em

[lone jetty]

I'm not also a big fan of that song

[loud elm]

including my old one

ok maybe it is overused so what

[lone jetty]

I mean Mario hacks in general, not only NSMB

[lapis bough]

for w7, i plan to use at least good egg galaxy, for space levels

wait i should make a list:

[loud elm]

good choice!

what about poor old gusty garden?

or spacejunk galaxy

[lone jetty]

Good idea, it is best to make a list of possible songs so you can consider them for your hack

[lapis bough]

World 1:

• Grassland All the way (M&L BiS)
• Crystal Caverns (Original music by Asbrök)
• Athletic (SML2)
  WorldMap: Donut Plains (SMW)

World 2:

• Birabudo Kingdom (SML)
• Desert Dungeon (SML)
• Probably gonna reuse Athletic
  WorldMap: Kirby Ruins thing (sseq by nld, forgot what the og song was)

World 3:

• Plessie Ride (bf)/Cheep Cheep Beach (mkds)/Bianco Hills (sms)/Beach (smwonder)
• Fossil Falls (SMO)
• JRB/DDD (sm64) for underwater levels
  WorldMap: Lake Lapart (BFury)

World 4:

• HoneyHive Galaxy/Lost Kingdom
• Steam Gardens
• WMap: Calm music by my friend/Lost Kingdom (SMO)

World 5:
[idk]

World 6:

• New Donk City (SMO)
• Jump Up Super Star (SMO)
• [rain music for rainy levels]
  WMap: 30 seconds of New Donk City slowed?

World 7:

• Good Egg/Gusty Garden Galaxy
• "Lets get fluffy" (SMRPG sky theme)
• a smwonder song?
  WorldMap: World Star (NSMB2)

World 8:

• Lava (NSMB, unchanged)
  WorldMap: NSMBWii World 8/World Bowser (sm3dw)

Not in worlds:

• Fortress SMW (for towers)
• Castle NSMB (unchanged)
• Castle remastered (final castle, remake of the og castle theme but in another game, like in newer ds)

For future reference

and some others:

• Walkin on the air (SMWonder, one of the wonder effect theme) probably for bonus rooms
• map enemy battle theme (for challenge toad houses)
• Airship NSMBWii (sseq by Asbrök)
• SMWonder Airship?
• In The Final (M&L BiS)
• gonna complete this later

[lapis bough]

i'll try to make more progress today

probably importing more custom songs

and modify some world map textures i guess?

[zinc rivet]

How do you convert songs to sseq making them continue to loop? I tried to convert a song from MFAW to my hack and it didn't loop

[lapis bough]

??

you mean for nwav or sseq?

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

Wait

No i mistaked on the text, i wanted to say how you convert the songs to nwav

but keeping his loop

[lapis bough]

you wanna convert the sseq?

sseq dont need to be converted, they work fine with nitro wav

[zinc rivet]

Not only the sseqs, but also normal wav files

[zinc rivet]

Ohh oki

[lapis bough]

basically, if the file with the number of the song is not empty, and is a valid nwav, it will be played. otherwise, the sseq file will play

[zinc rivet]

Ohh so its possible to still keep some songs without being streamed, i mean, if i dont want to replace an song (like the title screen one) i can keep it as an sseq?

[lapis bough]

yes exactly

[zinc rivet]

Ohhhh its cool!

[lapis bough]

yes

[lapis bough]

i wanted to make progress today but i didnt have time, and now im way too tired to do anything

i still downloaded one song tho

its not a lot but at least its something i guess

[lapis bough]

sneak peek of 2-3 (very unfinished)

[zinc rivet]

Ohhh looks cool!

[lapis bough]

thanks!

[lone jetty]

Looks really fine

[lapis bough]

thanks

[lapis bough]

i decided to do like just a normal modder, with level design: make some sketches in an image editor

[lapis bough]

for now we got this for 2-3

ignore the random objects on the top-left corner, they are for me to copy-paste

[zinc rivet]

Looks cool!

[lapis bough]

thanks!

[zinc rivet]

Bruh my dc crashed while i was typing lmao

[zinc rivet]

Np 🙂

[loud elm]

Looks like a really fun level!

[lapis bough]

thanks!

[lapis bough]

ive been thinking about renaming my hack to "NSMB. The Seven Stars Quest"

[loud elm]

i honestly think the name you got now is good, but its your choice

[lapis bough]

yeah idk yet, thats why i didnt rename it

thanks

[loud elm]

seven stars quest sounds a bit heavy for a name, i think the lost sequel is cooler

[lapis bough]

the story i wanna implement is this:
"One day, Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Blue Toad are taking a picnic, when suddenly, they hear something in the sky... It's Bowser! But... he's heading to the castle instead of trying to kidnap Peach?
Bowser stole the 7 rainbow stars. The toads tried stopping him, but they failed. These stars have great powers. In the wrong hands, they can cause chaos.
It's up to Mario and Luigi to stop him!"

but yeah i can keep this name i guess

[loud elm]

It could be New SMB: The 7 Stars

Whats the logo? I dont want to have to scroll all the way back to the top lol

[lapis bough]

because i thought about writing this:
"This is a prototype of an almost finished game that nintendo planned to release in 2011 on the DS, but since the 3ds came out around that time, they decided to cancel the project and make NSMB2 instead, with rushed ideas instead of reusing the old ones, due to time constraints. This hack i mean game is this lost prototype."

[loud elm]

interesting

[lapis bough]

maybe i can remove the items and instead put rainbow stars

[loud elm]

sort of reminds me of the nsmbds "beta" featuring the wario apparition

may i try recreating the logo? I won't force it on you or anything, just wanna give it a shot

[lapis bough]

you wanna recreate the logo?

why

[loud elm]

idk im bored

[lapis bough]

i still have the pdn (paint.net) files on my pc tho

[lapis bough]

i guess, but idk if i will use it tho

[loud elm]

yeah, thats why i said i wont force it or anything

[lapis bough]

ok

[loud elm]

just was asking permission, i dont even think ill post it lol your logo is great!

[lapis bough]

ok

thanks!

[loud elm]

Opinion?

[lapis bough]

cool!

[loud elm]

Thanks!

[lapis bough]

looks cool!!

[lapis bough]

whats the font for the "New" text?

[lapis bough]

ive been thinking about using this as the snow theme for my hack
https://youtu.be/7tOGGtEigOQ?si=SCvoZtetq_C2PnIv

[lapis bough]

do you think its a good idea?

[junior junco]

have you considered this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjTqSniYBiE

[lapis bough]

i think i did, for one second

then i forgot

good idea tho

thanks :)

maybe i can use both

[loud elm]

maybe not

snow land is a bit generic but nice

maybe shiveria for snow athletic, and snow land for snow overworld?

[lapis bough]

i guess i can do that

[lapis bough]

i made thumbnails for the first 4 levels

i think i'll upload the videos of the levels on my secondary channel with these thumbnails

[junior junco]

good idea, uploading them on your main will hurt the small place you have in the youtube algorithm because thats how youtube works

[lapis bough]

i wanted to upload them on my secondary channel

which i originally created specifically for this

also my channel was kinda blessed by the youtube algorithm at some point, but it was at the time i was making more trendy stuff

[junior junco]

yeah, you went from 500 subs to 1.5k subs in a few months with some of your 2.2 stuff

[lapis bough]

yeah i really got a lot of subs with 2.2 stuff

kinda sad that its only because of this tho

[zinc rivet]

I read "sunset springlocks" 💀

But yeah, the thumbnails looks cool, and they are eye-catching, increasing the views on nvideos

[lapis bough]

thanks!

i published them

in case you wanna see them again, or on the channel, here they are:
https://youtu.be/126-6sCO1wY?si=HXWymHaR4EVU1U8A
https://youtu.be/8IcqWeGCiT0?si=XHonVxxMjTt-zMpV
https://youtu.be/M1vs3OFBRbI?si=KMfwTXXTayy40xVp
https://youtu.be/dfAtR74d_Sk?si=mG3jIWeokpLIqmIl

i hope this doesnt count as spam lol

keep in mind that they are the exact same videos as the ones ive sent earlier in this post

[lone jetty]

All of your levels look really cool man, I like them, great work

[lapis bough]

thanks!!!

ive seen yours, they are very cool too!

[lone jetty]

Thanks man ^^

[lapis bough]

no problem :)

[loud elm]

this svg

[lapis bough]

thanks!

i might add it to my logo

[zinc rivet]

I liked the levels names, i will watch it

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[zinc rivet]

If someone with the @JPGprotogen @ and JPG64 nick commenting on the video its me with my main yt accoun

[lapis bough]

alright

unrelated: i tried messing around with unintended jyotyu values which depends on the background, in overlay 0, and here's what i got with a value of 4

[zinc rivet]

The goomba

[lapis bough]

yes it also affects the enemy jyotyu

[zinc rivet]

About the levels:
I loved the level desing, it's really well decorated, and it looks fun to play, also my favourite of those 4 levels was the level 1-3, also the boss battle looks amazing

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[zinc rivet]

You're welcome 🙂

[mellow basin]

How did you replaced the score popups?

And how did you make the sunset effect?

[zinc rivet]

He changed the view setting

[lapis bough]

i edited the texture, and also used meromero's code hack for larger score textures (which i think is included with the patch i gave you)

[loud elm]

how’d you make that neat sunset effect? It reminds me of the smbwonder one

[lapis bough]

how in the world someone always write as im about to write?

[lapis bough]

silhouette effect

wait i'll send the link

also, i made some progress on 2-3 and the level is pretty solid so far. gonna continue tomorrow i guess

[lapis bough]

https://nsmbhd.net/thread/3225-create-a-sunset-effect/

for the jyotyu palette, i made my own

[loud elm]

Thanks!

[lapis bough]

no problem :)

[lapis bough]

snow mountain tileset and background
i made the tileset some time ago

[zinc rivet]

Looks cool

I love those mountain snow things

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[junior junco]

I had all four of your levels showed up at once on my YouTube home page

[lapis bough]

dang lol

idk what are the odds for this to happen

[zinc rivet]

LMAO

[lapis bough]

i think i need more gameplay ideas for 2-3

i finished the first half (only gameplay) and now im making the second half

you climb a bit while avoiding the spiky balls thrown by spikes, then you go to the right, slide a slope, and then there are 3 vertically moving lifts, with a spike on the middle one, and you gotta go to the other side

i guess i'll do stuff with switches

because after i wanna put a star coin that requires you to press only one of the two switches

[lapis bough]

watched a few videos of nsmbwii 2-2 to get some ideas

[lapis bough]

i finished the gameplay of 2-3 of my hack

i'll do some polishing and fixing, then add the 2nd coin room, and make the deco stuff

[lapis bough]

probably a bad idea to have made the level as 2-3

because this means it should have a secret exit

except that i dont have ideas for a secret exit

[lapis bough]

Do you think i should randomize the block colors like this? or should i make it more consistent by putting each color around each color?

[lapis bough]

this is the second option

[sour kettle]

might depend on the shape n size of the block structures

[lapis bough]

ok

i think i'll probably go for the second option tho, because it looks better i think

[lone jetty]

In my personal opinion, this looks cooler

[lapis bough]

the "random" one?

[lone jetty]

Yeah

[lapis bough]

ok

i'll probably do a mix of both

[lapis bough]

decoration process going pretty well so far!

[lone jetty]

It's so nice, I like it

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[loud elm]

Nice spike! I tried to make one once, and swapped snowball model for spike ball model, and made the goggles look like eyes, it looked terrible. Yours looks way better than mine lol

[lapis bough]

its not mine at all

it was in newer but left unused

[zinc rivet]

Cool!!!

[loud elm]

Ooh!

[lapis bough]

thanks!

[lapis bough]

same goes for the code

[loud elm]

It throws actual spike balls? Not snow balls disguised as em?

[lapis bough]

yes

thats what the code is for

[zinc rivet]

On newer have an kamek scepter on the textures

[lapis bough]

and you can have 3 types:
-Snow Spike
-Spikeball Spike
-Bomb Spike

the first and last ones were used for newer ds

but the second one was left unused

i took the code, inserted it (and the models) into my hack, and tadaa

[lone jetty]

That's really cool man

[zinc rivet]

Im afraid because here is sounding an emergency alarm

[lapis bough]

thanks

[lapis bough]

wait what

[lone jetty]

I didn't know there were unused Spikes in Newer DS

[lapis bough]

well now you know

[zinc rivet]

Emergency siren

[lapis bough]

no i mean why in the world is there an emergency alarm/siren

[loud elm]

Yeah why?

Are you ok?

Did anything happen?

[junior junco]

I was thinking about using spikes in my hack but I cant really do animations so riping the nsmbwii model would be kinda hard

[loud elm]

too high poly as well, would lower performance

[junior junco]

the poly count isnt the problem

[zinc rivet]

There's an absurd storm here, the problem is that it's very strong, it knocked down trees yesterday, then the power was lost at home.

[junior junco]

I can easily reduce it

[lapis bough]

its still possible to reuse the newer ds model in the worst of cases

[loud elm]

importing models into nsmbds is tedious

[junior junco]

but yeah, I wanna try and make an actaul spike model for nsmbds and make it public

[lapis bough]

oh interesting

[loud elm]

Please do

[zinc rivet]

Good is that where I live is high up (my house is above my father's store) so if it get flooded there's no danger, I just get scared lmao

[loud elm]

Oh god

[lapis bough]

the best custom spike i made (which is the base snow spike model but retextured, using the newer ds recolor as a base)

[loud elm]

really good 👍

[lapis bough]

thanks!

[loud elm]

looks sad tho

[lapis bough]

i think it looks worse than the recolor tho

[lapis bough]

the recolor is here btw

[loud elm]

it lost its black ball

[lapis bough]

retextured snowball

it was at the time i didnt know how to use code hacks

[loud elm]

that’s what I did for my old hack lol

[loud elm]

Same

[lapis bough]

thats a screenshot of my old hack actually

[loud elm]

For the snowball retexture, I just replaced the model

Is there a way to not make the snowball grow?

[lapis bough]

code hacks

[loud elm]

Which one?

[lapis bough]

idk

but i guess you can use the one i use

[loud elm]

which one is that?

[lapis bough]

from newer ds

[loud elm]

isn’t it old template

[lapis bough]

except that it has been converted for the new template

[loud elm]

where is it

[lapis bough]

yeah but its in asm so it was quite easy to convert

[lapis bough]

im keeping it safe for myself...

[loud elm]

I thought C++ was the easiest to convert

[lapis bough]

nah jk i can share it

but probably later

[loud elm]

[lapis bough]

i have to replace the file ids with "FILE ID HERE" text

[loud elm]

[loud elm]

for what?

[lapis bough]

and you would have to add extra files to your rom

[loud elm]

can do

[lapis bough]

so you can modify the file ids to match yours

[loud elm]

ah k

thanks!

[lapis bough]

decorating so far:

[loud elm]

wow!

looking good so far

[lapis bough]

i find adding the temple background bricks pretty fun

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[loud elm]

Giving me real nsmbds w2 castle area 2 vibes, I like it!

[lapis bough]

thanks!

its in the underground tho

[loud elm]

How’d you make the custom jyotyu btw?

[lapis bough]

2-Castle is gonna be inspired from newer wii

[loud elm]

I import a custom one and the palettes break

[lapis bough]

pretty hard, but yeah i did it myself

[loud elm]

[junior junco]

its tedious

my nsmbu one took me so long

[loud elm]

I’m better off using meromeros one: noted.

[lapis bough]

you gotta open every single bitmap that uses the jyotyu palette, and also the 5 jyotyu palettes themselves (one of them being the blue coins palette), then export ALL BITMAPS WITH ALL PALETTES, remove the useless/broken stuff (stuff that doesnt match the palettes), then modify whatever you wanna modify, while still keeping attention to stuff that is similar but used in slightly different situations (like brick blocks and ? blocks (animations, being hit, no animation)), and once you edited what you wanted, you reimport the image as "IMPORT ALL BITMAPS WITH ALL PALETTES" otherwise stuff will break

i should probably make a proper tutorial for that...

[loud elm]

oh-ho no-ho

[junior junco]

yeah it took ages but I eventually got this jyotyu which was so worth it

if you ever need help with a custom tile set I can probably help

[lapis bough]

oh the tileset

yeah it looks clean

(both the jyotyu and the tower)

[junior junco]

I just realised that there is a tileing error there

[lapis bough]

guess im blind

[junior junco]

better

[lapis bough]

i dont see it

oh

this

yeah its better

[junior junco]

I should stop flooding ur thread now lol

its so easy to go off topic in these

[loud elm]

wow

beautiful

Looks 3D, but not 3d

[zinc rivet]

Looks cool imo

[lapis bough]

its fine lol, dont worry

[zinc rivet]

Yeah on my thread i also dont mind off topic tbh

[lone jetty]

Oh, so, you must do that with the FIVE palettes?

I tried to make a custom jyotyu from scratch and I only used 4 palettes

[lapis bough]

the fifth one is the blue coins

its only for the blue coins

[lone jetty]

Oh

[lapis bough]

the rest is in the other palettes

[lone jetty]

I didn't know what was that palette for

[lapis bough]

i think im overdecorating my level

this can cause 2 issues:
-hurt the player's eyes
-taking me way too much time (which can make me less motivated)

[loud elm]

Keep em jumbled and spread

[loud elm]

2nd is more likely

[lapis bough]

both can happen

[loud elm]

It gets too confusing if too much is clumped together

[lapis bough]

this takes too much time...

[junior junco]

thats why I have only made half of 1-2 for my hack

this tile set takes so long to tile

[lapis bough]

dang

looks good tho

[junior junco]

yeah

its worth it

[lapis bough]

but yeah this can be very demotivating

and i dont do anything when i dont have motivation

[loud elm]

Looks perfect

[junior junco]

yeah, making everything spaced out in a way that looks right is so hard

[lapis bough]

havent posted in a while

so i'll give you an update on what i made:

• 1-5: still unfinished
• 2-3: gameplay finished, deco has yet to be made
• added a few backgrounds that i permanently borrowed from nsmbu ds (which i probably shouldn't) and modified them with color shifting

[outer juniper]

If you haven’t asked to use the backgrounds, then you shouldn’t

[loud elm]

skylander was active not long ago, and i think his email is available somewhere

[junior junco]

Those backgrounds happen to be very easy to recreate

So u can remake them but slightly different :3

[lapis bough]

i guess so

[lapis bough]

which is why i havent shown them yet

[lapis bough]

i guess i can try then. its the nsmb wii one but without the hills

[lapis bough]

also i think 2-3 is gonna be moved to another spot, maybe 2-2 or 2-5 or smth

this is because i didnt implement a secret exit and since the level design is done, i don't wanna make something that feels like it has been added last minute

unless i turn the last star coin into a secret exit

[lapis bough]

actually this can work out well because the last star coin is very clever

[lapis bough]

might use some songs from this playlist:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmYW4kFMItwUTPSQ9nQAMAJWG0UV90g0f&si=rITWCegrH6YPg4R2

in the description of most of them (except the oldest ones), its written that we can use them in projects as long as we give credits (so i guess it also applies to the oldest ones too)

[lapis bough]

reminder to myself of patching this
#1193719548009009192 message

i might tell the idea i have for the final boss (requires heavy code hacking i think)

[lapis bough]

now i lost motivation...

[lone jetty]

Oh :/

Don't worry man, eventually, you'll get more and more motivated

I'm not always motivated to make my hack, but I always do what I can

[lapis bough]

thanks!

[lone jetty]

Np ;))

[lapis bough]

remind me tomorrow to send a screenshot of the last star coin so i can ask you if its a good idea to replace it with a secret exit

[lone jetty]

Sure, I can help you if you don't have any ideas for a secret exit

[lapis bough]

i think i have one

but i'll send it tomorrow

[lone jetty]

Secret exit/ Star Coin 3 friendly reminder

[junior junco]

dang, exactly 12 hours later lol

[lapis bough]

still cant use my pc

[loud elm]

12 hours and one minute.

[lapis bough]

might be able to send it in like 3 hours

maybe a bit less

[loud elm]

Reminder

[lone jetty]

Just in time

[lapis bough]

yeah i just turned on my pc

The spike throws a spikeball which will break the bricks. in the first one, you get a star coin, in the other one, you go in a pipe cannon that leads you to the secret exit

you gotta wait a bit so the spikeball gets thrown from high enough while the spike is on the platform

[lone jetty]

Hmmmm

I think I have an idea

But I don't know if you'll like it

What if you put the pipe cannon and a section above with the third Star Coin

And if you enter the pipe cannon as mini Mario/Luigi, you get to the secret exit

[lapis bough]

no i dont like power-up requiring secret exits

but its a pretty good idea

[lone jetty]

And isn't there another place where you think you can place the third Star Coin?

[lapis bough]

probably

[lone jetty]

Do you think you could send screenshots of another sections of the level? Maybe you can put the secret exit somewhere else

[lapis bough]

i guess i can

but there's a lot of stuff i didnt place yet

including some gameplay stuff

6th image is the 2nd/3rd star coin room

[lone jetty]

Where does the yellow pipe in the 4th screenshot take you?

[lapis bough]

to the pipe that is below i think, which is why i put a question mark

i will place the pipe to the star coin room a bit later, im plain sight

[lone jetty]

What if you put two hidden blocks here? One with a vine that takes you to the secret exit

[lapis bough]

no thats a bad idea

this kind of secret exit is bad imo

nsmb2 did it and i hated it

i think secret exits should feel rewarding instead of being random

[lapis bough]

i think this secret exit is good tho

[lone jetty]

Idk, your choice

[lapis bough]

thanks for helping me tho :)

[lone jetty]

My other suggestion would be placing the secret exit route somewhere in the Star Coin Bonus room

[lapis bough]

probably

but i think it wont fit in this specific bonus room since its a simple 1 screen wide tower

i think the one i made is good, i'll try it

[lone jetty]

This is my other suggestion, but I don't think you'll like this either

[lone jetty]

No problem ;))

[zinc rivet]

Better

I would like adding an secret exit that is very, very secret for the world 2-3

[lone jetty]

2-3*

[lapis bough]

i think this kind of thing is more for 1ups

and the ground looks this way because its not decorated yet

[lone jetty]

Well if that's the case then I'm already out of ideas :p

[lapis bough]

i think its fine, i'll use the one i suggested earlier

i found the spots for the coins too

[lone jetty]

Fine, I would suggest another things, but that's your choice

[lapis bough]

ok

thanks still

[lone jetty]

Np

[zinc rivet]

Ops lmaoo

Nooooooo wifi died

[lapis bough]

:/

[zinc rivet]

4 minutes without wifi lmao

[lone jetty]

I'm a bit bad at secret exits, most secret exits in my hack are either too easy or stupid

That's why I decided to improve 1-2's secret exit

[zinc rivet]

My w2 secret exit on level 2 will be a bit hiden

[lone jetty]

I made a level for crook's hack with a secret exit and it's very well hidden, most people would probably not guess it

[lapis bough]

what i like to do with secret exits is to make it not that hard to find, always with a hint, and to add a shorter but harder path

this way it can feel rewarding

[lapis bough]

i guess i'll add the world map names thing

i'll use the smw font

[lapis bough]

yyyeah i just found the original file for it:
https://fantendo.fandom.com/wiki/Grassy_Hills?file=Grass_BG.png
its really easy, i just have to remove the background (the bg of the bg lol) and to resize

dang i have so much motivation to make stuff now, there's so much i can do

but its 1 am 😭

[lapis bough]

expect me to do the following this week:

• the nsmbwii background,
• world map names
• custom tower model and moon coin model for world 7 (secret)

[lone jetty]

Gotcha

I'll serve as your friendly reminder

[lapis bough]

i'll do that when i get back home

i kinda wanna put a gd reference somewhere in my hack

[lone jetty]

I had an idea for that in my hack, but I think I'll trash it

[loud elm]

make one level just be stereo madness

[lapis bough]

why

[lapis bough]

nah lmao

[lone jetty]

You can make custom monochromatic gd tilesets and make some sorta speedrun level

[lapis bough]

unless its a cannon level or smth

[loud elm]

you could use the flying blue shell powerup and convert it to new template using the python script and have a block containing one of those for the rocket segment, and make it be an autoscroller?

[loud elm]

cannon level maybe

[lone jetty]

There are many level ideas I have in mind and I don't think I can implement all of them, and since you said you want a gd styled level I guess I can scrap my idea

I wish we could add more levels to the game

[lapis bough]

im not even sure to do it

also its bad to scrap an idea just because someone else got a very similar one

i think its interesting to see the different takes of the same thing, made by different people

[lone jetty]

I know, it's just that I don't want people think I'm a copycat or something

[lapis bough]

i dont think they will tho

• the implementation of it could be completely different

[lone jetty]

I'm thinking on make warpcannons speedrun levels, maybe one of them can be inspired by geometry dash

[lapis bough]

also as i said, im not even sure that i will do it

[lapis bough]

good idea, like nsmb2

[lone jetty]

Me neither, but it's worth a try

[junior junco]

it wouldnt be hard tbh, it would just be annoying

[lapis bough]

i kinda planned the same, except that i was hesitating between multiple things:

• nsmb2 running thing (with twists like falling down sometimes instead of running)
• replace the cannons with switch palaces (requires code hacks)
• remakes of other mario levels but a bit extended

anyway i think i'll work on the wmap level names now

[lone jetty]

I thought you could do that with the worldmap editors

[lapis bough]

i was gonna say that

pretty sure you can tho

[lone jetty]

I dunno why but I remember seeing newluigidev getting rid of the Star Coin signs in one of his hacks

[junior junco]

yeah but you cant "add" levels, you can make it so you use diffrent areas as levels

[lapis bough]

can you use the unused levels tho?

[lone jetty]

Oh, same as Super Mario: Endless Earth right?

[junior junco]

no, but you can use mario vs luigi levels

[lone jetty]

I don't know if you can do it, usually I make "test levels" in the Unused Levels

[junior junco]

and 6-

[lapis bough]

the opposite i think. with wmap editor, you can decide, for each level point, in what area it will send you

[lapis bough]

oh nice

i plan on keeping the mvsl levels in my hack tho

[lone jetty]

Unrelated but I find 6- useless, there are a few levels left to get to World 8 and there's a cannon lol

[lapis bough]

yeah it kinda is lol

probably why it was scrapped

[junior junco]

World seven was probably not meant to be secret at one point

[lapis bough]

which font do you think is the best?
Top is smw,
Bottom is smb3

[lone jetty]

I like the bottom one

The outlined letters

[lapis bough]

yeah its smb3

i like it too

i'll probably go for this one

[lone jetty]

Alrught

[lapis bough]

but i think its possible to make shadows for the top ones too

[lone jetty]

Are you gonna make the letters 8x8?

[lapis bough]

yes

thats the plan

i think i'll also make use of the palettes to use one color for each world

[lone jetty]

Alright, could you show the results once you're done?, I'd like to make 8x8 letters too, but I think they'd look too small

[lapis bough]

alright

[lone jetty]

Cool idea

[loud elm]

bottom one is good

[lapis bough]

holy crap my pc crashed-

oh nvm it just lagged for 30 seconds for some reason

[loud elm]

oof

[lapis bough]

oh btw ive been trying to add letters for hours now

[lone jetty]

Why?

[lapis bough]

the reason why its taking this long is that im actually making a new background for the bottom screen

[lone jetty]

It's not that hard, the measures are the same than Tilesets

[lapis bough]

no i made it from scratch

[lone jetty]

Oh

[zinc rivet]

Wait, you can tile an bottom screen background?

[lapis bough]

yeah

[lone jetty]

Making it from scratch is not a good idea in my opinion

[lone jetty]

Yes

[zinc rivet]

Ooooo thats nice

[lapis bough]

dont worry its not super complicated, and i used a thing from a tileset

[lone jetty]

Though, making a custom bottom screen wallpaper from scratch doesn't sound like a bad idea

Just a bit time consuming no?

[lapis bough]

a bit yeah

[lapis bough]

nsmbe is terrible with image compression

[zinc rivet]

Fr

[lone jetty]

Affirmative

NSMBe color compression is the worst thing in the human history

[lapis bough]

lmao

i didnt even use complicated colors

[loud elm]

guys a smw thing got compressed so bad I can’t even recognize it anymore

[lone jetty]

UI Studio files have too much color limitations and images tend to lose quality very easily

[lapis bough]

smw

literally 16 bits

and the ds is 64 bits...

pathetic

ds colors limitations suck sometimes

[loud elm]

sucks so fucking bad

[zinc rivet]

The NDS color limitations are fake, it's just a government plan to stop rom hackers

[loud elm]

Finally someone else who knows the truth

[lapis bough]

aint norway i didnt know that

[zinc rivet]

😱 😱 😱 😱

[junior junco]

can we please not joke about suicide, some people are really sensitive too it

[loud elm]

I’ll go drink a glass of water, and denmark it down on a piece of paper

[lone jetty]

Sorry, it won't happen again

[loud elm]

Kenya believe how ignorant I’ve been?

[zinc rivet]

I don't really like death jokes, especially suicide, I don't want to say why, but I don't like talking about these things

[loud elm]

Chile out dude it’s a common fact

[lapis bough]

chile?

like the country?

[zinc rivet]

Denmark

[zinc rivet]

Norway

[zinc rivet]

Chile

[loud elm]

SudAM im good at these jokes

[zinc rivet]

LMAO

[sour kettle]

doesnt newerds area overflow into somea the unused levels

[lapis bough]

no they use code hacks for that

ALRIGHT SO

first off, the sunset bottom screen bg looks like this

ingame

And the world map names :) + bottom screens made for the world map

and i changed that green thing around mario's life into orange, to match the sunset theme of the first world

the world names are some sort of hint of what i plan to do

[zinc rivet]

I liked the world names

You should make custom grounds for w3, w4 and w6

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[zinc rivet]

Since thge w6 will be an City i think

[lapis bough]

havent touched these worlds yet

when i will, i'll add custom stuff dont worry

[zinc rivet]

Custom grounds is like what i did for my w3

[lapis bough]

yeah

i even plan on changing the backgrounds

[zinc rivet]

Cool!

[lapis bough]

thanks

[zinc rivet]

Other thing that i liked: the bottom bg

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[zinc rivet]

You're welcome 😉

[loud elm]

Beautiful

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lone jetty]

Dude, this looks absolutely amazing, you gave me an idea for my hack

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

glad i gave you an idea :)

i like giving ideas to people

[zinc rivet]

I thought that you pfp was bowser drinking soda

But its just the metroid character

[loud elm]

samus

[zinc rivet]

Yea

[lapis bough]

lmao

well, i made this for world 3 (please ignore the random square shadows, they're from the goofy brick blocks

[zinc rivet]

Those block could be replaced with sand castles

OHHHHHH THE BACKGROUND

[lapis bough]

good idea, thanks!!

[zinc rivet]

ITS AMAZING

[zinc rivet]

Np 😉

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

its the unused one from smw

[zinc rivet]

It fits on nsmbds art style

[lapis bough]

yes

for some reason it does

made sand blocks (sand castles looked goofy because its the same texture on all sides)

[junior junco]

No, that’s the Mario vs Luigi levels

[zinc rivet]

Cool!!!

They looks better than the sand castle imo

[lapis bough]

thanks

[sour kettle]

ah

[lapis bough]

i made a custom tower model in sketchup, i'll try importing it into nsmb tomorrow

[lone jetty]

Oh, that's really cool

I definitely should learn some 3D modelling

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

slight update: added windows and resized some textures

[lapis bough]

i'd suggest making them in sketchup (2017, last free version), which is what i use

i think its not that hard to make stuff with it

[lone jetty]

But's does it require a good PC or something? I want to learn 3D modelling but I don't know if my toaster PC can handle 3D modelling softwares

[lapis bough]

i dont think it requires a lot of memory

like 128-129mb of ram

[lone jetty]

Oh, then it's fine, I'll tryna download it and give it a try!!

[lapis bough]

alright

[lone jetty]

I'd like to make custom worldmaps like just a normal modder, but I'm sure that's complicated and there must be a lot of stuff I need to learn

[lapis bough]

keep in mind that it only supports dae files, which you will have to convert into obj files

[lapis bough]

i think it is complicated, but overtime you will probably manage to do it

i'd suggest starting with something not too hard

[lapis bough]

either use blender or an online converter for that

[lone jetty]

Yeah, I won't exceed, I'll just try basic stuff for now

[loud elm]

womp

use womp

it doesn’t use your pc for power

it’s great for beginners and online

it runs off of a server and uses your pc as a command hub sort of

[lapis bough]

might try

[zinc rivet]

Cool!!

[zinc rivet]

I dont know 3d modeling and i did the world maps, its not that hard, i watched some youtube tutorials and did it

So i think you can do it too 🙂

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lone jetty]

Yeah, but I notice that you're always having trouble with goombatlas n stuff and something tells me that I will have the same issues

That seems a little bit stressing tbf

[zinc rivet]

I recomend that if you want to make custom maps you make only custom grounds

Like i did on my w3

Because goombatlas dont worth the stress and such

[lone jetty]

So, goombatlas isn't necessary or?

Sorry, I don't know how custom world models work

[lapis bough]

basically goombatlas should only be used if you wanna change the paths and map points on the map

if the paths and map points stay the same, you dont need goombatlas

[lapis bough]

to give it shading in-game, do i need to do something in particular? and what do i need to do?

[zinc rivet]

You mean the shadows?

You need blender/maya plugins

But on nsmbds the towers dont have shadows btw

The world maps also dont have

[lapis bough]

yeah kinda

[lone jetty]

Oh, so, can I import my custom worldmap models in NSMB easily?

[lapis bough]

yeah i think