Sakura SMB DS

[remote star]

Would be harder but possible

[trail vapor]

wait are you telling me that the pipe animations are tied to bowser jr somehow?????

if that's the case... nintendo what the hell were you doing while making this game 😭

[remote star]

From what frosty showed yea, since it uses the same system as jumping on tower and castle

[trail vapor]

doesn't jumping to the tower/castle work fine in your hack tho?

[remote star]

Nah i removed it too

[trail vapor]

oh...

[remote star]

Nld did actually

[trail vapor]

okay so in w4, the tower being on the side won't be an issue then

[remote star]

Yea

But the jumping direction can be any

So it dont really affect much

But yea ill do pipes in this way then

[trail vapor]

oh, didn't know that

[remote star]

Pipe layout

Red path is secret btw

Better showcase

[trail vapor]

2 secret levels to reach a single shop?

interesting layout tho

[obsidian basin]

shop

[elder crystal]

why are you drawing circuit diagrams

jpg electrical engineering arc?? 🤔

[trail vapor]

jpgee arc

[remote star]

LMAO

[obsidian basin]

https://tenor.com/view/electrical-repair-sacramento-sacramento-residential-electrical-contractors-gif-24457466

[magic bloom]

exellent

[remote star]

Texture

[trail vapor]

stretched mountains

can't you just copy-paste the pattern tho?

[remote star]

Its copy pasted

[trail vapor]

oh, true

then maybe copy-paste the dark part of it instead?

[remote star]

I copy pasted because half of this will be under the fog

And the map is mountainesque

[trail vapor]

fair then

[remote star]

Ill start the work now (ignore the metal mesh, its reference only)

[remote star]

How to make it less empty

Made the Bush bigger

Better, ill make heigh variation too

[trail vapor]

just know that it doesn't have to be overly overdecorated tho
-# can't believe i'm the one saying this...

[crimson dome]

I'd never ever have expected you saying this, lol

[remote star]

I found a artstyle that inserts this on other maps and looks nice

Theres stuff out of bounds, dont mind the tris count

[remote star]

This world have the best deco set:
Barrel
Gummy Bush
Houses

Its really nice to work with those

Not only on levels but in map too

Gummy Bush is not the official name ofc

Its just that it looks a gum

Ill also add pipes too

[floral hemlock]

i’m thibking if you are not accidentally adding too much barrels

tho i’m letting you cook

[trail vapor]

honestly i'm not fully sure about the worldmap so far

the original worldmap really had a feeling of going upwards and climbing the mountains. this one so far feels more like the very old w3 design, which had the same layout as the nsmb w3

and honestly i'm a bit disappointed to see this new version, because i really liked the structuring of that w3

[remote star]

It will have parts going up

Even more actually

I plan making the player need to go up, go down n such

The height of this area for example (Im making a new area and i had to cover it cuz i will only show later)

[remote star]

Yea true, ill manerate more on it

Im following this path here (not sure if pipes)

[floral hemlock]

if jpg does it well it will be better than old one

[remote star]

Im really happy with the current result ngl

[remote star]

I had to fix the uv a bit

[trail vapor]

ohh interesting ✨

i'm guessing it's unfinished because the sides at the end are missing

what would be nice later on is to make the mountain look "fuller". have more terrain than the part you can walk on

[remote star]

Yea, some i removed tho cuz its not visible in game

[remote star]

Yea ill do it

Like on w4

[trail vapor]

oh crap :/

[remote star]

Ofc, main model first

[trail vapor]

i feel like we don't go upwards as much as the original w3, but that also could be just because we haven't seen it in-game yet

really, the worldmaps of the hack went from "well at least it's a custom worldmap, that's decent" to "omg these worldmaps look so good, better than the base game"

okay probably an exaggeration, but the new worldmaps just look polished imo. and they do feel more open than the ones from the base game (tho it's also thanks to the xyz map camera code hack)

[remote star]

Yea thats fair, i do plan making more jumps tho

Mainly on the city part and on the next climbing areas

[trail vapor]

okay. wait more climbing areas? i thought it was the upper "floor"/plateau

[remote star]

Yup, i plan make it go more up, then more down a bit

[trail vapor]

interesting. it already looks nice

anyway that made me want to work on TRQ for a little bit. not gonna do much (chances are that i'll even lose motivation after turning on the computer), but it did give me a bit of motivation

[remote star]

Ooo thats nice! :>
I feel happy seeing people working on this mod (even if slowly) cuz its a really nice mod

[trail vapor]

also about this, you too have the issue with the score text being displayed the wrong color, if you switch characters in the character select screen? (for example if you choose Rexy, it'll still have Mario's colors until you go back to the worldmap)

[trail vapor]

thanks

[remote star]

Yup

Im planing making both have same color

[trail vapor]

okay. to fix the issue, i had to make the colors the same for both

[trail vapor]

okay yeah i did the same. Frosty too i'm guessing

[remote star]

Yw^^

[remote star]

3-B will be on that metal bar that is being held

[trail vapor]

kinda feels like there's no much point to go there in terms of progress. tho i guess it's optional levels, idk

[remote star]

I like doing optional levels that lead to a shop/dont skip much cuz it will make people curious for play the level or they will play it once they find out that special world is a thi g

[trail vapor]

okay then

could still work. i know i would definitely play them tho lol

[remote star]

Same 😭

The secret exit that i changed from 3-2 to 3-3 is evil 😭

But people will easily find it by curiosity

[fickle sphinx]

imo i feel like there 3 kinds of players at play

1. someone whos gonna go for all the levels regardless of if they know theres a secret world
2. someone who may skip a level if theyre having trouble with it and have the opportunity to, but may be enticed to go back and try harder for a secret world
3. someone whod do the bare minimum regardless and wouldnt be enticed to go back to unlock the secret levels anyway

in which case relegating extra levels to only unlocking mushroom houses would have little effect other than making the first type of player question if their effort is worth it, and removing the opportunity for the second and third types of players to weigh whether or not they should keep trying a certain level or give the other one a shot (or consider if its worth trying to scrounge up star coins to try a different route)

[remote star]

I see

I honestly never use star coin signs cuz i think its like "hey try hard on a level to unlock another level" i think its better having only secret exits, this makes so every star coin can only be used on w☆ map exclusively

And ofc, on the special world, for unlocking a new level, u need to get all the star coins in the previous one

[remote star]

Tomorrow ill finish w3 worldmap too

[remote star]

Ill add worldmap bridges too

[remote star]

This one will be better

[remote star]

The worldmap is getting great ngl

[remote star]

Almost finished too ofc

Ill be greedy and make the tank lead to a shop

[remote star]

Now only the castle node area

Im cleaning useless tris now

[remote star]

Now ill add the pipe tower

[remote star]

Why its like that

[remote star]

Wth is even this

[trail vapor]

how large is the map?

it seems like it's trying to convert a nonexistent number or a number that is too large, but i'm not sure

[remote star]

Same as old w3

[trail vapor]

weird then

honestly it was more of a random guess. idk if it's even related to the map size

[remote star]

Its uvmap

Already found it btw (the faulty uv)

[trail vapor]

oh ok

[remote star]

Or should i call it the guilty uv?

[trail vapor]

both

the faulty guilty uv

[remote star]

Heck yea

[trail vapor]

sequel to the cutting room floor but specialized in unused models and corrupted ones

[remote star]

LMAOOOOOO FR

[trail vapor]

tho it just sounds like some website name tho

[remote star]

Its the cutting room floor but for used game assets

[trail vapor]

lol

[remote star]

After 2 hours and 10 minutes i finished it

🥱

Ill go to sleep guys, byeee :3

[trail vapor]

okay i'm hyped now

[remote star]

Now ill do goombatlas map

[trail vapor]

oh i thought you had done it already

[remote star]

Today w3 is here 🔥

[remote star]

Oh 😭

Yesterday i spent 2 hours fixing every uvmap of w3 map

I had to redo everything 😭

[trail vapor]

holy...

[remote star]

Now the easiest part but the most tedious one and the one i most hate, path animations

[floral hemlock]

JPG, please make it bigger

and make UV show more tiles

[remote star]

It is bigger, its because of the path animations, mario is a lot more high on the map

[trail vapor]

i mean yeah why do we have a tiny house that is smaller than mario 😭

[trail vapor]

ohh, fair then

[floral hemlock]

If he makes the ground ibgger then that's enough

[remote star]

The ground is big

[floral hemlock]

make it bigge

r

[remote star]

It is bigger than what it looks

[floral hemlock]

😭 ?

[remote star]

The houses for example are the same size as mario (yep, even the tiny one)

[remote star]

Its path animations fault, thats one of the reasons i dont wanted to change paths before on the old maps, mario is going to be higher than the actual map and it will look really big

I can even proof its angle related by showing a giant toad house

[trail vapor]

okay let's see what it looks like with the path animations then, once you're done. and then we can give critique/feedback

doesn't make much sense that the barrels are sticking to mario and the node if they're both far up in the sky tho

[remote star]

Eure

[remote star]

Uhhh whats that

It only happens on 1 save file tho

This can be a savefile bug?

[trail vapor]

weird

[remote star]

Ill wait for william

And ill ask him what it could be

It happened exactly when i replaced w3_move.nsbca

I removed a w3 related code to see

Nah

[trail vapor]

is it replacing the arrow somehow?

or is it part of the tilemap?

[remote star]

Its part of the course tilemap

I know what it may be, it may be replacing those bottom screen worldmap icons

[trail vapor]

maybe part of the "mask" tilemap?

[remote star]

The Z is above this tile

[remote star]

Ill see

[trail vapor]

ohh i know

just empty the "mask" path tilemaps with empty tiles

that should solve the issue

[remote star]

Nope, w3 mask dont have it

I deleted that Z tile since i dont use, im probably wiping a bigger problem down the carpet? Probably, but if its really a big problem, the source William is cleaning will not have this error so i dont really mind it

Since if the game runs on melon ds and dont have any visible/gameplay ruining bug its fine ig

Yea its a mask tile

Its a -● tile specifically

Hmm so those are hardcoded to path animations

Interesting

Makes sense tho

ITS THE SAME TILE I SAW, SAME POSITION!!

[trail vapor]

interesting

[remote star]

Yea

I remember i got smth like that with Y

On w2

[trail vapor]

the letters invasion

[remote star]

Yea its a BIT small, but for a mountain.... idk, @floral hemlock what you think

[trail vapor]

mario is just gonna casually jump over that wall?

[remote star]

Yea

Only mario can do that fr

[trail vapor]

honestly yeah the map does feel kinda small

also when you compare it to the old one

[floral hemlock]

Make whole map apart from paths etc larger/extended

It’s too small

[trail vapor]

i actually agree this time

might be nice to still see a video of it, but it seems to be too small

[remote star]

Ill use w6 clouds jouner made

And make a nbsta

[remote star]

1 path left!!

[remote star]

Map done

[remote star]

Im doing the final touches and ill show here

[remote star]

Actually since i finished it rn and ill go to sleep, ill show tomorrow :>

Gn guys

[remote star]

Today ill show yall

[trail vapor]

nice!! tho it does feel a bit too small

also please make these clouds transparent and foggy, NOW

tho it does look kinda nice, but i feel like it would be better if they were foggy

[remote star]

I tried.... but they interacted with the paths.... and in a not nice way.. 😔

[floral hemlock]

why are you using Wstar clouds on this map

they should’ve have completely different hue and be semi transparent

go with either white clouds or light blue

[remote star]

They interact with paths, they have semi transparency too

So they need to be fully opaque

[remote star]

Idk actually 😭

[remote star]

Prototype for 4-2 too btw, ofc, this will not be a full underwater level, it will be a lagoon level, and the level will be kinda underwater n surface

[trail vapor]

interesting

[remote star]

ill show progress on w2

[crimson dome]

JPG, just out of curiosity, your hack doesn't have the mega mushroom right?

[remote star]

nope

i dont have much creativity for it

same for mini mush

[crimson dome]

I was mainly asking because if you destroy the bullet blasters with a mega mushroom, it'll also vanish the decorations behind them

[remote star]

ohhh i see

[crimson dome]

But if your hack doesn't have the mega mushroom then nevermind

Anyway, the level looks good, but you need to add more coins

And blocks

[remote star]

thx!! ^^
yea ill add more of them

what u think abt this

changed first coin cuz it was too easy imo

[crimson dome]

That's better

But maybe it'd be better to put the 10 coin brick in the platform with the blue koopa instead of above the Bill Blaster

[remote star]

gotcha

done

[trail vapor]

WHY THE HELL NINTENDO

[remote star]

Nintendo being nintendo

tomorrow ill focus on 2-2 too btw

[remote star]

Today ill try finishing 2-2, or at least make more progress on it ofc

0w0

I wanted to make at the very least the king bill section

[quick hazel]

I came back Jpg!

[quick hazel]

ohh cool

Btw, Mariorrt told me he was also working on this hack right?

[remote star]

Thx! ^^

[remote star]

Yup

[quick hazel]

I really like his levels

[remote star]

He's lore writer and level designer

[remote star]

Same, theyre fun

[quick hazel]

Oh, he also writes the lore? I didn't know this hack also had lore!

What a complete hack

[remote star]

Thx! ^^

[remote star]

im ALMOST on the king bill part!!!

this part will be so easy to do lol

[remote star]

Started the king bill part

[remote star]

Tomorrow im finishing it, half of the whole level is done

[remote star]

On sbnk 27 (chijou count) the bullet blasting sounds dont work?

[trail vapor]

i don't think the sfx have anything to do with the sbnk of the bg music (unless it's too large for example, which cuts the sfx)

[remote star]

Its 95,8kb

The swar

[trail vapor]

do other sfx of the same soundbank play?

[remote star]

Idk

But all the normal sfx from mario jump n stuff works

[trail vapor]

what's the size of the sseq + sbnk + swar?

(total size, or you can give them individually)

[crimson dome]

The SBNK has nothing to do with the sound effects in your level

That depends of the sound set in the level's settings

[remote star]

But when i changed the song the effects played normal

WAIT SOUND BANK 19 WORKS

But star coin sound dont work...

The soundbanks where every sound work bill blasting dont work

And when bill blast works, fireball hit, star coin, checkpoint, 1up and throwing shuriken dont work

Ill see if i can purge instruments im not using

[remote star]

Its swav falt mostly

[remote star]

Why the bill sounds just cant play 😭

like

When i get it to play

It just dont play other important sound effects

Such as shuriken throwing (hammer sound) star coin or checkpoint

On other levels it just play fine

Yk what? On w2 i dont even use talking flowers besides 2-A, so ill change the theme to nwav

[trail vapor]

it's in hex

[trail vapor]

weird

[remote star]

2-2 is almost finished

[remote star]

Its closer to the end now, i placed the 3rd star coin

[remote star]

Im gonna change my tank level tileset design

I dont want comparision with newer

[trail vapor]

are you using the newerds tileset for it?

[remote star]

Nah

Its similar

But its not the same

It was a desperate way to ds style it

[trail vapor]

interesting

-# knowing people they'll compare the sakura theme itself to newer tho... we should just ignore them atp

[remote star]

On old ssmb it was newer theme, but thankfully now its a original theme

(Tho this theme is called petal plains/blossom plains)

[trail vapor]

i'm just saying that some people are always gonna compare things to newer no matter what. tho i feel like it's probably better to stop there. they don't need more attention than this (tho it's your thread, so if you wanna continue it's fine i guess)

[remote star]

Lets talk about tank tilesets ideas

I was thinking in doing like this

It would be a mix of smb3 and sm3dw

[trail vapor]

idk how you would translate the sm3dw tank designs into a ds tileset

[remote star]

I did it on the train for w2 so it wouldn't be hard on tanks

Ofc, i took inspiration from a smw hack

But its kinda sm3dw-esque

[trail vapor]

okay then

[remote star]

2 chunks for 2-2 for be finished

i finished this level in 2 days

record

and i feel i got more creative on it

looks wayyyy better than other levels

[trail vapor]

interesting

[remote star]

finished!!

[remote star]

This level deserves a video

Soooo

Im adding too much kaizo moves in my mod

Theres a shell jump on 2-4

The king bill section stuff

[still roost]

ooohh wait can you send me that level theme i really like it!

[remote star]

Sure, its based on nsmb unused w4 theme, the tileset is for ssmb, but u can use the unused one from nsmbds, its the same, and u can add ur decos n such

The bg is free to use if u want i can send

[still roost]

yea i'd like to have the level theme link, like is there a yt link or...?

[remote star]

Oh the music u mean?

[still roost]

yeah yeah

[remote star]

Its made by kourtiss for ssmb, I'm afraid I don't know if I want it to be used in other mods :<

[still roost]

i won't i just want to add it to my song playlist if at all possible lol

its too perfect to be used in other mods-

[remote star]

I could ask kourtiss to upload on his yt channel :>

[still roost]

oh okay

[crimson dome]

Ok, I'm gonna be entirely honest

I seriously feel the King Bill section should be its own separate optional level, it doesn't make any sense to have a level with a chill environment and a casual difficulty and suddenly turn it into a kaizo level

Other than that, the level looks nice

[remote star]

I see, i could see what i can do for this

[remote star]

Thx! ^^

For 2-5, i kinda wanted to make a falling debris level

What is the sound hex for spiked balls

0x8?

[floral hemlock]

you should make a player aware way before of the king bill rather it straight up chasing you

and having little so reaction to do anything

that’s why i recommend to zoom out camera slightly if you can

[trail vapor]

i agree with this. there's no reaction time whatsoever and the pacing changes drastically suddenly

[remote star]

I see, ill do it

I need adding secret exit too

[trail vapor]

would it be possible to reduce the speed of the king bills?

[remote star]

I need to see how i put the zoom to be as big as the view on the level

Ill also use a diferent music in the chase, i asked kourt for one

[trail vapor]

i almost feel like the king bill chase would work better as a bonus room. the pacing change feels too brutal

at the same time i also like it the way it is (except the reaction time tho)

[remote star]

The zoom made the reaction time bigger

[trail vapor]

does the zoom make the king bill get launched later? (by being loaded later)

[remote star]

Yea it zooms out first then it launches

And it makes the "Kabah" sound like bullet bill or banzai bills being launched

[trail vapor]

also that part needs better structuing:

• no semisolids on the left of the brick blocks
• more brick blocks
• more space to land at the end instead of a wall (and extend the floor a little bit to the right)

i think the king bills that are below tho are too difficult to avoid. you need to jump precisely, and either twirl or glide (with the acorn). i mean dang that's not geometry dash 😭

btw, the 3rd star coin has no indicator for it. it feels like the player has to guess

[remote star]

I moved it

It was placeholder

Its on the secret exit path

[trail vapor]

oh okay

[trail vapor]

actually i watched again and you don't need to glide/twirl, just be precise

also why are there enemies that are only used once in the whole level? 😭

i'm also sad that the targeting banzai bill was underused tho

[remote star]

Yea same :<

Thankfully they have their own level

On w5

And on w4 they will apear again

[trail vapor]

then fix it

it just feels kinda random

[remote star]

It kinda fits tho wich is nice

[crimson dome]

I still feel it should be its own separate level, as I said, it doesn't make any sense to have a really hard section in a level with a casual difficulty

[trail vapor]

you probably didn't do that but, i feel like it would fit well as a secret exit (tho considering how hard it is i would put it in some cannon secret exit, but your hack doesn't have cannons)

[remote star]

Once i finish w2 (1,5 levels remaining) i will make every level intros for it

[trail vapor]

-# did you just casually ignore what we said and try to change subject...

[remote star]

I didn't saw the messages sorry 😭

[trail vapor]

oh 😭

[remote star]

I said that cuz im making w2 levels so im with finishing w2 stuck in my head

[trail vapor]

oh ok

[remote star]

I think making a diferent level for it wouldn't be nice tbh

[trail vapor]

well there should be a level with king bills at some point imo, and making it optional

tho i feel like here, what could work is "nerfing" the section (making it easier)

[remote star]

Maybe on special world? Since special world is for harder levels

[trail vapor]

also maybe adding some bullet bills, since it's the gimmick of the level. tho i'm afraid that it would make it harder

[trail vapor]

yeah for example

[remote star]

Returning to this, ill try making them have the same design as the old ones, but ill add mario face and rexy face

Also

Ill remake the train one, and global airship one cuz i need to add rexy

Idk if i should keep the old design tho like i said

[crimson dome]

Catching players off guard with a very difficult section in an easy level is not nice either

[remote star]

The zoom gives a nice time to react tho, and this section is easier than it looks

[trail vapor]

i feel like having a more... less simplistic design, could be nice

and maybe avoid too much gradients because they get compressed easily (at least if you do, use nitro paint)

[floral hemlock]

you literally have a loading screen that previews a level by a screenshot

make a screenshot of king bill part and in the leave make it appear after you make some distance

[trail vapor]

the king bill is only a portion of the level tho

[floral hemlock]

make it slightly longer

[trail vapor]

[crimson dome]

For the third time, make it a separate level

https://tenor.com/view/shaking-mr-krabs-spongebob-stare-look-gif-17329830

[trail vapor]

i. disagree.

[crimson dome]

https://tenor.com/view/trevor-phillips-yelling-convention-destiniwithani-gif-2126195030437881689

[fickle sphinx]

im feel like a level thats only running from a king bill would maybe get stale

i think trying to incorporate the king bill in the level earlier in different ways would be better like that one nsmbwii level

[trail vapor]

the roles are reversed here i see

[fickle sphinx]

but its so big that im not sure how you might go about doing that

[trail vapor]

yeah. though probably not in world 2...

[trail vapor]

also i do have some arguments. it's just that i left the chat because i'm discussing with someone rn

[crimson dome]

Getting from casual difficulty to kaizo difficulty in a single level is also stale

[elder crystal]

not kaizo

but I do think the king bill should move a bit more slowly

[remote star]

Thats the plan

[remote star]

Maybe, but i fear it may ruin the tension it causes on that part, cuz its not really hard, its hard to die for the bullet, but the tension makes this part unique ig

What u think about it?

[elder crystal]

I don't mind it personally

I agree it's probably easier than it looks

but also you can create the same kind of tension by making the bill slower and adding more obstacles, instead of just a flat hold-right level

[trail vapor]

yes i also think it should be a bit slower

also to leave room for error. it feels like if you fail once you die instantly, which feels pretty unfair

[remote star]

Yea Fair

[trail vapor]

also i'm gonna tell you again, the "nofreeze" code hack feels weird imo. it kinda makes it feel like you don't "feel" the damage properly (at least that was the feeling i had when playing the demo)

[remote star]

I can remove it

@elder crystal could u remove it from the source too?

[trail vapor]

oh i thought you wanted to keep it

[elder crystal]

well do you like it jpg?

I've seen it in other hacks so some people clearly do

[remote star]

I like it honestly, but i could remove if people dont like it thi

[elder crystal]

then keep it

[remote star]

Oki

[elder crystal]

unless you're indifferent and most people don't like it

[crimson dome]

I don't like it either, but I'm not gonna hate the hack just because of it, lol, so yeah, if you wanna keep it just keep it

[trail vapor]

yeah true, at the end of the day this should be your decision jpg

[edgy heron]

tbh for me it’s fine if he wants to remove the freeze, but I personally think it’s better WITH the freeze, even if it’s a small amount of time, the few seconds you have of the freeze let you plan out quickly what to do next since taking damage means you could be in a dangerous position

[remote star]

I see, so i would like keeping it is nice

[trail vapor]

keeping the freeze or the (nofreeze) code hack?

[remote star]

Nofreeze

[trail vapor]

okay

[obsidian basin]

Based jpg

I like how you decided yourself there 😁

[trail vapor]

yeah sorry if this came off as pressuring

[remote star]

No it wanst, no worries ^^

[remote star]

Thx! :>

This 4x4 compression makes the textures looks like those nsmb poorly ported bgs 😭

When replacing ofc

[trail vapor]

you replaced the spikes?

[obsidian basin]

Yay!

Oops wrong chat

Sorry jpg

[trail vapor]

(spikes as in the green enemh)

[remote star]

Its oki ^^

[remote star]

Yup, i dont used them

Nor those spike balls

So grrols will be better

[trail vapor]

there... kinda was no point...

[obsidian basin]

Shiny bagon (it's my fav pokemon so guess how happy I am)

[trail vapor]

like it just feels like a retexture/remodel...

[trail vapor]

i think i can give a bit of feedback, apart from what has been said already:

• the camera is sometimes too low (tho that seems to be a common issue in sakura smb levels)
• there are enemies that appear only once or twice and just feel out of place: rex, goonies, ninjis. maybe keep only 1 or 2 kinds of them, and use them more often in the level
• the flagpole is just... not interesting. you can't really reach height (the bullet bills placement doesn't allow you to do so (except maybe one), and there just isn't enough space). it would be better if there were some bullet bill launchers that could launch bullet bills that you could jump on to reach higher points of the flagpole
• in the king bill section, it gives the feeling that there's something on the left. i would suggest filling the section with brick blocks, and keeping a king-bill-shaped hole
• i feel like the koopa shells are a bit hard to see in the king bill section too (because it's a bit overdecorated + having to act fast)

[remote star]

I see

Ill change some of those stuff

Btw we are 1,5 levels away from finishing w2

[frail estuary]

tf you mean there's a shell jump in 2-4 😭

[remote star]

U can get there by cheep cheep too

[frail estuary]

Are those trees from Sonic?

They look really out of place

[remote star]

Nope

Jouner drew them

[frail estuary]

oh

Is this how they're supposed to be tiled

[remote star]

Yup

[frail estuary]

Are you certain?

[remote star]

Yea

[frail estuary]

uh

Guess I won't question it further then

That squiggle looks weird tho

[remote star]

I like it honestly

I found some old ssmb photos, the evolution is crazy

I kinda miss this w3 theme but bro i really preffer current ssmb

[trail vapor]

interesting

[remote star]

Ill see if i finish 2-5 today

[remote star]

I almost didn't talked here, but im on almost half of the level

[remote star]

I wanted to make the grrols 3d models

Both desert grrolls and normal

But im not the best at making enemies, ill try

[trail vapor]

good luck on it 🍀

[remote star]

Thx ^w^

I got a idea for ssmb tank levels

I wanted to make the tileset be on the bg

And make the bg never scroll

And the tanks would walk

And the rest wouldn't

[trail vapor]

it would be weird considering that they shouldn't scroll at the same speed

oh you said making the bg never scroll. that would still look off imo

[remote star]

they will not scroll, since the tank levels idea is that the tanks walk, mario is on place

[trail vapor]

the junglekusa method is better imo, you don't really have a reason to change it

[sweet owl]

I just have my ground as convayer belts so it looks like mario is moving with the ground

[remote star]

Same

But the bg scroll

Breaking the ilusion

So i want to make bgs on w3 ghost house and 5 ghost house (ghost houses are tanks on ssmb) static to screen

Top only tho, since bottom is already static

I remember i knew hex editing it to make it static

But yea, i forgot

Correct size

[obsidian basin]

Jpg

Your background has a ground tile

[remote star]

Yup

[obsidian basin]

There's a tileset block why?

[remote star]

Its for tank levels

[obsidian basin]

Huh

[trail vapor]

yeah. though it's for the animation, not the physics

also no once again i think it's just a bad idea. it worked fine before, why changing it???

why doing some wacky workarounds, which could be noticeable in-game, for something that is already implemented and functional???

[remote star]

Now it need to be static only

[trail vapor]

JPG JUST WHY??? IT WORKS FINE ALREADY

[remote star]

The bg and tileset scrolling was bugging me

[trail vapor]

maybe it's for the z-layer. but having it as the background also would cause a z-layer issue

[trail vapor]

but it would still scroll...

[remote star]

Rn it wouldn't anymore, since it will be static to the bg

And the tanks n stuff will move, mario and everything else would be static

[frail estuary]

Another tank level?

[remote star]

Its w3 one

[trail vapor]

unless you mean like you want the camera to give the illusion of being static, and the tanks to advance

[remote star]

Yea this

[trail vapor]

but that imo would feel weird. it would make more sense if mario continuously moves forwards

[hard sapphire]

Isn't that the whole idea of tank levels?

[trail vapor]

it's how it is in sm3dw too

[frail estuary]

I agree

[trail vapor]

not quite. in tank levels it gives the illusion that the tanks go faster than the ground, but mario still goes to the right

here what jpg wants to do is give the illusion that the camera is completely locked (rather than looking like a slow autoscroll with the tanks going faster)

[frail estuary]

Do the tanks move in 3D World or not 🤔

[trail vapor]

yes i'm pretty sure

i just checked. they move but slowly. and the camera moves faster than the tanks

[hard sapphire]

Woops I meant the other message

[hard sapphire]

That's kinda what it looked like in smb3

[trail vapor]

in smb3 the ground was all the same tho, so i guess that's the best they could do with the limitations

in the all stars version tho, the camera does scroll and the tanks move forwards slowly (i just checked)

[hard sapphire]

all stars version sucks tho, so

[remote star]

In newer smbw for exemple, the ground is ststic

[trail vapor]

it's the canon of what nintendo wanted to do i think

at the same time this version has the bg and ground scrolling at the same speed. probably because the ground is technically part of the bg but idk

[trail vapor]

i just checked and, yes that's true. tho it also doesn't make much sense imo, if the bg scrolls but not the ground

[hard sapphire]

I mean, in jpg's version neither will scroll so it makes sense

[trail vapor]

kinda

[trail vapor]

in newerds tho, both the bg and ground scroll, but pretty slowly, and the ground scrolls slightly faster than the bg does

i just feel like how it probably is is probably better, and that making the player feel like they're still moving makes more sense but also feels more dynamic

[remote star]

The tanks will be the oposite of my w3 train level

(The train is static and the bg is moving, making it seens that the train is moving)

While tanks will be the bg static, while tanks move

[trail vapor]

it does make sense i guess, but once again we lose that energy of the player seemingly going forward

[remote star]

Also, instead of lava rising in tank levels, i make a king bill shoot

Killing the player and blocking a softlock

[trail vapor]

the lava rising imo was not a great idea. it was pretty buggy actually

[remote star]

(I got jumpscared by it tho 😭)

This king bill definitelly can jumpscare people on tank levels

[trail vapor]

entering the warp too late made the player fall back on the ground (well, the ex-ground which became lava), without reaching the warp because of being pushed by the camera

this was an issue while playing the sakura smb demo

actually there were quite some issues while playing it. some have already been said (either by me or not), but some i haven't said them (also because there was a lot and i don't remember anymore)

[remote star]

It hapens on newer ds too iirc, since i couldn't do this level, i copied newer ds level and deleted stuff

Now its not newer ds level base anymore

[trail vapor]

i think the camera just stops scrolling in newerds

[remote star]

Nope

[trail vapor]

okay i checked again and it doesn't

extend the warp a few tiles to the right then

[frail estuary]

How do you end the level if you stay in place

[remote star]

The tanks are moving towards mario

[trail vapor]

yes this. technically you don't stay in place but it's the illusion the level would try to give

but i genuinely prefer how it was before tho

[frail estuary]

Is there just gonna be a tank with a pipe at the end of the level?

[remote star]

Cannon pipe

[frail estuary]

Is this a boss level or a regular level?

[remote star]

Regular level

[frail estuary]

Oh

Aren't they typically boss levels tho

[remote star]

Not on ssmb

[frail estuary]

So what is the thing about lava or a king bill?

[remote star]

If the player skip the last cannon pipe

Now the bg dont scroll!!

Thx to dm

[frail estuary]

A not scrolling bg is vastly less offensive than killing the player

[remote star]

Its not buggy tho

-# sorry for the ? It was acidental

[frail estuary]

Killing the player is honestly by far the worst way to go about it

[remote star]

Ill record a video

Its only if the player lost both pipe cannons

Wich only happen if they are curious on what happens

Newer ds did that too

But i used a king bill instead

[frail estuary]

And it was bad there too

[remote star]

If the player dont get killed they will get softlocked anyways

There inst much u can do

[trail vapor]

what about... locking the camera?

[frail estuary]

You could make the tanks stop moving

3D World also does that

[remote star]

That would need to make tank animations stop too

[trail vapor]

which would also work with the bg being static

[trail vapor]

probably better than killing the player at least

[frail estuary]

Can you spawn tiles without triggering a cloud effect and sound?

[hard sapphire]

in 3d world they're actual moving objects, not an illusion like in newer or here

[remote star]

Only jyotyu tiles iirc

[frail estuary]

It should be more than possible to achieve the same here

[trail vapor]

also wdym the spikeballs from spikes can be killed like this 😭
(TRQ also has this issue since it's the same code hack, and i just tested)

[remote star]

I would need to make the weels change to non animated tiles

[frail estuary]

That's the only thing tho

[remote star]

Yea 😭

[remote star]

Worst thing to OCD people 😭

[crimson dome]

Have you ever thought about making the autoscroller stop at the pipe cannon?

[frail estuary]

No I mean

It should be doable to implement

[remote star]

I would need to make steering weels stop

[trail vapor]

he said that the issue would be the wheel animation

[frail estuary]

You guys don't happen to have custom tile spawners for this game?

[crimson dome]

Then just add the pipe cannon in a place where there are no tanks

Easy fix

[frail estuary]

lmao

[remote star]

The pipe would just apear on a static ground....

[hard sapphire]

Well no it would just slide on the ground into view wouldn't it?

[frail estuary]

I think he's making a joke

[remote star]

Oh

[trail vapor]

what if

[crimson dome]

I was actually being serious, everything would be better than just killing the player

[trail vapor]

idk if that would work tho, but placing a warp on the right that would lead to a static view, which would have a pipe cannon. tho the camera would probably have to stop, which doesn't solve the issue

[frail estuary]

So I take it nobody made tile spawners for DS that can spawn any tile?

[trail vapor]

no

[frail estuary]

damn

[trail vapor]

it also wasn't needed before i think

[remote star]

Yea its not a thing yet sadly

[trail vapor]

and doing this would require a lot of code/work i think

[frail estuary]

I believe Newer Wii actually modified its game's tile spawners to be able to choose any tile

[trail vapor]

newer wii

[frail estuary]

I don't think it required too much code there 🤔

[remote star]

ill get nitro rq to upload the video

[trail vapor]

doesn't the server already allow 50mb uploads tho 😭

[trail vapor]

this is the ds, which is more limited in terms of hardware and memory

[sweet owl]

I plan on just using the final castle loop

[frail estuary]

Videos are big

[hard sapphire]

Not that big by far

[trail vapor]

love that idea

[fickle sphinx]

what about a video of 6 movies in a row

[hard sapphire]

That's honestly a pretty good idea

[crimson dome]

Just upload every single frame in separate pictures

[frail estuary]

Hey Illy, do you know how easy or hard it would be to make tile spawner be able to spawn any tile?

[hard sapphire]

That would be piracy and not allowed, so problem solved

[trail vapor]

one possibility could probably be to have to store whatever tiles you need in some existing file that has tile placement data (just like levels) and have a specific file for every time you do that

[sweet owl]

havent looked at it, the tile god doesnt have the sprite data for it though so you cant have it in that actor

[frail estuary]

Damn

[remote star]

Ok ill upload rn

Ill get the nitro here

[frail estuary]

How much sprite data do you have in this game?

[sweet owl]

yeah, I plan on having the ground and bg speeds change with auto scroller as well as the wheel actors, should be kinda simple

[fickle sphinx]

i thiiink 4 bytes

plus 2 extra bytes for event triggers n such

[trail vapor]

also this would require changing the sprite settings, and allowing for not just 6 hardcoded blocks, but 3 whole map16 (which are A LOT of tiles each), which is a lot

[remote star]

256 iirc

[sweet owl]

I dont remember off the top of my head, we have 8 nybbles/4 bytes and two extra for events, those can be used as more sprite settings if needed though

[trail vapor]

oh so that's why nsmbe immediately knew that the checkpoint had an event id when i changed the settings with the code hack

[trail vapor]

isn't that for "objects"? could also work tho

[hard sapphire]

Yeah the possible map16 tiles are way more I think

[trail vapor]

yeah i think too

[sweet owl]

you could probably store it in the level header like the actor spawner does

[trail vapor]

maybe doing the extra settings like the actor spawner could work tho

[trail vapor]

right when i was about to say it 😭

[remote star]

i had to get nitro to ts 😭

[hard sapphire]

Just counted, I think 16×48=768 map16 tiles

[remote star]

im uploading the video

[remote star]

wow

thats a lot

[fickle sphinx]

itd be 256 * 6 map16 tiles iirc

[crimson dome]

I don't wanna ruin the tile god related conversation, but I feel any further discussion related to this topic should move to #nsmb-chat , we're kinda polluting JPG's thread at this point

[frail estuary]

Got it

[remote star]

skip to 0:17

[hard sapphire]

~~a 50 sec video shouldn't be so big you need to get nitro 😭 ~~

[remote star]

ik 😭

sis i made a yt video and it had like 230 mb, and 33 min

[trail vapor]

going to the left instead? interesting

[remote star]

but ii used windows recorder and it bloated the video

[hard sapphire]

next time use an online compression tool to make it smaller

[remote star]

i shouldve used obs too

[frail estuary]

The tank wheels also keep moving on the death screen 😭

[trail vapor]

though i think the scroll is better. here it feels too static

[remote star]

WHY NOW I CANT UNSEE

[frail estuary]

Very strange indeed

[remote star]

w5 is normal tho

[trail vapor]

no i meant that i liked the idea, it feels kinda fresh

[remote star]

yea i wanted to diferentiate

cuz 2 tank levels both going to right is repetitive

[trail vapor]

i'm still not fan of making the bg and ground static tho

[frail estuary]

I'm personally not a fan of backwards levels 🤷‍♂️

[trail vapor]

then you're probably gonna dislike some of the (potentially cancelled) alt levels for TRQ (challenge mode levels)

[crimson dome]

I'm not a fan of anything, delete this hack, delete the other hacks on this server, delete Discord, delete the earth, delete the universe, delete everything

[trail vapor]

so you don't wanna believe in the theory?

[crimson dome]

Theory of everything??!?!?!?!?!?

https://tenor.com/view/geometry-dash-coins-secret-coin-secret-theory-of-everything-gif-26993064

[trail vapor]

lmaooo 😭 that's what i wanted to say

[hard sapphire]

game theory

https://tenor.com/view/matpat-game-theory-vs-bob-fnf-friday-night-funkin-vs-bob-gif-12176028033304353407

[frail estuary]

What do they look like?

[trail vapor]

i was waiting for the question "which theory?" to respond with Theory of Everything

[trail vapor]

nothing yet. but what i had imagined was some alternate levels, with some of them going from right to left

[frail estuary]

That could be interesting actually

[trail vapor]

oh okay

the thing is, i'm not sure if they'll be done or not (also considering that there are like only 12 levels done so far and that some already need improvements or retiling)

[frail estuary]

I can see the right to left helping to make them stand out as alternate versions of levels

[trail vapor]

yeah

aaandd... we're still kinda polluting the sakura smb thread

[frail estuary]

😭

[crimson dome]

Guys, you should totally check the super duper awesome mind blowing tank levels in The Missin... wait a minute, I have no tank levels in my hack

[frail estuary]

Real

[sweet owl]

Theory of everything 2 upside down ship section at like 70%

That theory of everything

[sweet owl]

Add one

[crimson dome]

I have one planned

My airship tileset even has functional tank wheels

[sweet owl]

conveyer animations?

[fierce vine]

why did my dumbass think ground pounding was a new feature

omfg

[crimson dome]

Yep

Funny how tank levels seem to have become a trend now, lmao

[frail estuary]

Mod inbreeding 😭

[sweet owl]

can I take credit for this

mine is based on block hoppers so its unique though

[tardy vessel]

Unusually High Framerate Gif 👀

[floral hemlock]

i miss old ssmb

wtf

those messages are from 2024

LOL?

[tropic hound]

Good lord, has the project evolved

[remote star]

Every level is unique if you make enough effort

[floral hemlock]

i really like the map so far, way better than whatever i would do, but please improve those clouds in terms of colour

and add vertex painting

it would make it look even cooler

[remote star]

Oooo true, i forgot abt vertexes 😭
Btw wich color u suggest for clouds

[floral hemlock]

the one that would nicely blend with the ground and bg

generally more blue

[remote star]

Ohhhh oki

[floral hemlock]

also add for it a better texture

you could use planks from barrel texture

should be good

[remote star]

For the rails right?

[floral hemlock]

for metal part you can leave it like that but maybe vertex painting on corners?

[floral hemlock]

yes

[remote star]

Gotcha

For the metal part i could use the tank textures

[floral hemlock]

i’ll see, metal part does not need much detail so yeah, just check if it’s better and if so go with it

[remote star]

Gotcha

[floral hemlock]

also i beg you, make it slightly desaturated

too blue

[remote star]

Sure

[remote star]

I made grrols

Textures for my grrrols

Stupidly easy to model

For the big one

[trail vapor]

you were the one saying they were gonna be difficult to model...

[remote star]

I thought it was going to be hard but in 2 minutes i finished 😭

[trail vapor]

meanwhile me taking 3 hours to model a star...

[remote star]

stars are kinda dificult tho

[trail vapor]

oh, well okay then

[remote star]

I usually make models out of a single vertex,wich makes it easier than using the cube

But its still complicated

[trail vapor]

yeah i had made that star basing myself from the cube...

[remote star]

The cube is only good if youre making worldmaps

[trail vapor]

very specific lol

[remote star]

Made big grrols now

Idk why endless earth used a flat plane but yea

Finally i removed another placeholder model with a actuall model

[trail vapor]

because skill issue

[remote star]

True

https://tenor.com/view/truth-real-flint-and-steel-minecraft-gif-4984186247989395985

[obsidian basin]

https://tenor.com/view/kyurem-pokemon-pokemon-black-pokemon-white-gummychan-gif-16080061226024417161

Thruth and real and truth and ideals

[remote star]

2-6 already in game!!
Level by redacc

[edgy heron]

can we get this title screen back

[trail vapor]

YES please bring back that kind of title screen. the current one is boring

[remote star]

i plan doing it

i asked aquee if he could do a custom title screen, he said that if he have motivation he can do it, so it will have this style

btw, w2 is 1 level away from being finished!!!

0,5 level away

[trail vapor]

jpg don't tell me you're making levels in 20 minutes...

[remote star]

nah

i usually take 3-4 days to finish it

im almost at 2-5 half

so i rounded 1 level to 0,5 levels

[trail vapor]

okay then

[floral hemlock]

@remote star Would you mind trying out a custom lighting? make it look exactly the same like original one but add another light source that wouldve been much stronger and would be pointing exactly on the side of mario/slightly higher

[remote star]

sure

[remote star]

i plan naming 2-5 "grrrolling volcano"

[trail vapor]

you put 3 "r". nice pun tho

(grroll qnd growling)

[remote star]

Yup

[remote star]

Yea

Its a word play with growling volcano and grrrols

[trail vapor]

oh nvm the name of the enemy has 3 "r"s. i just checked

[remote star]

Yea i was writing it wrong before 😭

[trail vapor]

that's pretty much what i said, yes

i didn't even know the spelling 😭

-# and probably not even the name...

[remote star]

I pronounce it like this:
growl ols

[trail vapor]

why ols after?

i pronounce it "grrr" and "roll"

[remote star]

Because growl you pronounce more fast

[remote star]

Yea that could work too

[remote star]

Thats why i made it italic

[trail vapor]

okay then

[remote star]

Or a beter way to make the same sounds
Grolols

[trail vapor]

sure i guess. just feels a bit weird that you pronounce it with 2 separate "o"s

[cyan stirrup]

"Old" Ssmb 🥀

[floral hemlock]

your mom

[cyan stirrup]

Okay

[remote star]

Guys im exaxtly at half of 2-5

[remote star]

current state

[fierce vine]

so peak

[remote star]

Thx! :3

[trail vapor]

Arizona

[remote star]

LMAO

[trail vapor]

also i said this specific one because it's where the grand canyon is, and it's somewhat similar to world 2 i guess (barely but whatever)

[remote star]

Btw i noticed that ill need to make new stage intros for:
Shops
Airships
W2 levels

Shops and airships are easy

And ofc, ill need to add rexy option

[remote star]

Wait yea its kinda similar

[trail vapor]

yeah it's the grand canyon

[remote star]

Interesting

[trail vapor]

(i took the photos btw)

[remote star]

Ooooooooo

[trail vapor]

also here (you probably did it with other levels that use this tileset tho), i like how the tiles kinda form vertival lines as a pattern. feels a bit repetitive but not too much tho. and idk if you did it on purpose or not

[remote star]

It have randomization actually

[trail vapor]

what i would suggest is keep the dark tiles together and the lighter tiles together, and mix them between each group (mix the dark tiles together and mix the lighter tiles together, but don't mix the dark and light tiles)

[trail vapor]

oh, okay. well rip my idea then...

[remote star]

I could use this for w4 desert tho

[trail vapor]

interesting

[remote star]

2 chunks left!!!

[tardy vessel]

Of?

Jpg teach me your ways of level design

[remote star]

Of the Level

Now its 1

W2 is finished basically

[remote star]

I just go placing tiles, if i like it i keep, if i dont like it i redesign or scrap the part

And i usually go doing what comes into my mind

So in the first chunks the gimmick is selected

Finished

W2 IS FULLY FINISHED!!

Now

Ill see wich level to work on

4-5!

One of the Stones is out of the way

5 left

This world is surreal

[tardy vessel]

World 2 volcanic

[remote star]

Yea

[tardy vessel]

Cool

[trail vapor]

interesting. the star coins just all feel the same tho

and i feel like one single gimmick is not enough for a level

[remote star]

2-5 have another gimmick

Not saying tho, i wanna keep a surprise

[remote star]

Tomorrow ill make level intros

[frail estuary]

You mean like the images on the loading screen?

[remote star]

Yea

[fair geode]

did you base the background off of smb3 all stars world 8?

because it looks very similar

[remote star]

Yup

It is in fact smb3 bg

But modified

Both top and bottom

[fierce vine]

this looks cool as fuck holy shit

ts fryin me yo

[remote star]

Thx! :>

Template done

[trail vapor]

it would be better to have an actual icon instead of "train" being written

also it's probably just me but i don't really like the use of existing renders for the level intros

and what you used to do, with enemies that had a hand-drawn style, was a lot better and more charmy imo

[remote star]

Some people didn't liked it and i didn't liked it too honestly

[trail vapor]

why just "airship" tho? feels generic

[trail vapor]

i loved it

[remote star]

Every world will use the same

[trail vapor]

and i just don't like to see renders being used in in-game stuff. i recognize it and eww

[trail vapor]

that's lazy. at the very least, change the level name for each of them

[trail vapor]

like i hate the newerds powerup sprites for this same reason, especially the mushrooms

[remote star]

nah those newer ds item sprites are weird ngl

[trail vapor]

yeah there are other reasons why i don't like them

but i just hate whenever i see renders in-game. it's just eww

also here they don't match the level intro's lighting sometimes

[remote star]

i feel they work nice if theyre on loading screens

[frail estuary]

These renders are cursed as hell 😭

[trail vapor]

idk i don't like it

maybe make the renders yourself? that would be difficult tho

[frail estuary]

At the very least 3D World has icons for all those

[remote star]

The train is placeholder

I need to make a high quality of train icons

[frail estuary]

High quality as if the DS isn't very low res

[remote star]

I mean, its a 32x32 icon, the da one is 16x16

I think its even more than 32x32

[trail vapor]

looks charmy <3

[remote star]

True..
I could add those 2d arts back too later

[trail vapor]

maybe it would be better if you made some kind of white box for the icon

and do the whole level name thing too

wait i'm stupid, i got confused for a bit

[remote star]

Nah ur not stupiid

[remote star]

Now ill do another grrol level, but this one will be tower like in some sections

This time on w4

Piranha plants will apear too, I never used those before

[floral hemlock]

im sure it wouldve looked way better without pre rendered not fitting the style and not self made ones characters but with just image of a level

oh and text couldve use nsmb ds one just

[edgy heron]

this, especiall considering that the font ur using seems to have some incorrect characters from the official one nintendo has

btw jpg i think u should change the mario Icon, it looks downscaled and not as good as the rexy one (which seems to be sprited and it looks much prettier and clean)

[edgy heron]

i don’t think they were complaining about the renders themselves… they were complaining about how they were inconsistent in style

[remote star]

This, and its hard to find consistent style arts, Or even 2d arts at all

[frail estuary]

Rather, the inclusion of renders in the first place

For me at least

[remote star]

Actually instead of w4-5, ill keep it for later, and ill do 1-temple

[remote star]

I love how nsmbe randomly freezes and closes

[trail vapor]

me when interacting with coin sprites for some reason:

[remote star]

Yup i was interacting with coins too

[trail vapor]

idk coins are weird 😭 (and evil)

[severe heart]

Shiny but deadly

Whoever gets the ref gets a cookie

[crimson dome]

Coin sprites shouldn't be used very often anyways, only if you're placing coins in front of decorations or if you want off-centered coins

[trail vapor]

minecraft story mode?

[trail vapor]

yeah it was why it crashed for me. and considering how overdecorated my levels are...

also because i do some sort of "coin trio" which has one coin half a tile above the others (i literally stole this from Illy and New++...), and to make sure their animation syncs, i use them all 3 as sprites

[remote star]

I only use coin eprites

Sprites

[crimson dome]

.

[trail vapor]

why...

[remote star]

Idk actually

[severe heart]

No, Ceave Gaming. The Fuzzy guy.

[trail vapor]

oh. well rip

[crimson dome]

Well, start using jyotyu coins more often or else I will annihilate you

[remote star]

😨

[remote star]

im sad ccuz bosses are just crashing the game, like, i edited 3-tower a bit and make a lakithunder arena but it just freezes when warping

what it can be

i feel its ram related but not sure

idk if its the extended tileset but it shouldnt be

this is all i have in the area

when i warp through that warp actor, the screen gets black

i changed a setting in that warp actor to make a test

still freezes.....

ill record it

[remote star]

When i remove the boss it stops too

[trail vapor]

is it in its own area, with its own sprite sets?

[remote star]

yup

[trail vapor]

oh...

do you have the "boss particles fix" code hack?

[remote star]

Yup

[trail vapor]

weird...

[remote star]

Here whats happening

[trail vapor]

yeah i saw that

it just goes to a black screen

you said it works again when you remove lakithunder?

[remote star]

Yup

[trail vapor]

then it's not an issue with the warp itself

[remote star]

Sadly

:<

[trail vapor]

what are the sprite settings of the room from the base game? it could be the spiny missing

[remote star]

Ok it can be that

Lets hope!!!

[trail vapor]

hopefully. idk tho

[remote star]

Theres 2 missing spritesetd

[trail vapor]

what are they?

[remote star]

Lakitu enemy common

[trail vapor]

okay. well try that then

since Lakithunder seems to share some properties with lakitu, and they throw spinies (which i assume are part of the "enemy common" sprite set that is missing)

[remote star]

Yea

Enemy common is like the basic enemies that arent already pré enabled