Sakura SMB DS

[trail vapor]

oh interesting

[edgy heron]

jpg hacked his thread somewhere else in my discord what

[remote star]

LMAO

[remote star]

Im almost finishing 2-A

4 chunks left

[trail vapor]

what the hell happened 😭

[floral hemlock]

jpg, next time say w1, w2, w3, w4, w5, w6, w7, w8, fuck w9 and we good

[trail vapor]

"fuck w9" 😭

[crimson dome]

I love all worlds ❌
I love W1, W2, W3, W4, W5, W6, W7 and W8 ✅

[warm condor]

the simplified result:
the math operation:

the thing is how's the process of turning this

into this

-# my handwriting looks shitty if i use a mouse

[trail vapor]

gotta find "w" to solve the equation

[warm condor]

you know

i think this "i" looks depressed

[hard sapphire]

Easy. W1×W2×W3×W4×W5×W6×W7×W8 = W⁸×8! = Worlds therefore W⁷ = orlds/8! and W = ⁷√(orlds/8!) or approximately W ≈ 4.549 × ⁷√(orlds)

[trail vapor]

it needs to equal W5

[remote star]

Im making some torpedo ted models, ill finish then and when i do ill show them here so yall choose wich one i add

[trail vapor]

don't you... already have a torpedo ted model?

[remote star]

Yup but im updating them

Ill make bullet bill too

[trail vapor]

are you gonna ask someone to make the torpedo ted spawner actually spawn the torpedo ted using code? (instead of the actor spawner)

[warm condor]

a hand model would be needed too in that case

[trail vapor]

jpg already made some sort of hand animation in the past, but it didn't sync with the torpedo ted spawning from the actor spawner

[remote star]

I could ask illy for it later

I can make the hand and box model

Since i dont like the old one

[trail vapor]

oh, okay

[remote star]

Ok so, finished it, ill show

Sorry for the zoom out i was not managing to get it to focus

Ill probably choose 1 but yall decide first ofc

[crimson dome]

Bro took a picture 10 kilometers away from his laptop

[remote star]

😭

[trail vapor]

i feel like the shape of the first one is signature of the torpedo ted. so i'd say this one

[crimson dome]

Yeah, I preffer the first one

[remote star]

Yea so ill add it
Thx yall! ^^

[trail vapor]

yw

[fickle sphinx]

the lighting seems rather dark

[remote star]

Well, ill go to sleep, gn guys ^^

[remote star]

Its originally for w3, i used here because of the bg

[edgy heron]

it could be bit brighter tbh

[remote star]

Today ill make bullet bill

Like this ofc

Barack Obama ripped this from smw 🔥

[cyan stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/obama-transition-3d-obamas-there-is-only-obama-gif-19887884

[floral hemlock]

because it wasn't mean't for this kind of levels and it is

https://tenor.com/view/of-course-gif-21373815

[floral hemlock]

why this stupid torpedo is so big....

I think so?

I need a nsmbu image of jt

w4 does not have sense, love u too

jpg, have you ever been outside past 3am to 5am?

lmaooo

[remote star]

Yea

[floral hemlock]

maybe brazil is just weird as they say....

[remote star]

I think its because of the axis position, its funny cuz people always show sunset being orange and such, but it bugged me cuz it was fucking pink and purple 😭

[warm condor]

being outside past 3am to 5am or more is really common in xmas and new year

[remote star]

And yea sunrises usually makes the sky dark blue, shifiting to purple and orange, so thats why i used that bg u made cuz it reasembles sunsets at least for me

Obiviously, brazil is a alien planet but still

[frail estuary]

One thing that's definitely quite strange with this is that its not facing straight like every single bullet-like enemy we've ever seen

[remote star]

Its more like the style of my hack actually

[remote star]

Its bigger than mario on nsmbu actually

[severe heart]

SKELUX's PFP lmaoooooo

[remote star]

LMAO

TRUE

[remote star]

Red bill blaster

Concept

What yall think

[severe heart]

Cool

[frail estuary]

That does not even slightly look like a bill blaster

[severe heart]

Yeah, more like a onesided Banzai Bill Blaster.

[frail estuary]

Nah

It looks like big version of a cannon

[remote star]

Edited

[remote star]

Its only one sided, so thats why i made it only having 1 exit, but yea reasembles the cannon but its a edited version of the bill blaster

I used this sheet

[trail vapor]

why are you ripping it from a sheet when you can just... rip the textures from the game you've been modding for over a year??

like why 😭

[remote star]

😭

[remote star]

Tru

[hasty crane]

This looks like a cannon ball launcher from SMB3 more than a Bill Blaster

Looks sick tho

Bowser about to launch Squarepedo Sam out of this blaster

[crimson dome]

LOL

Anyways JPG, remember that you can't flip the Banzai Bill cannon, so if you're gonna implement this, note that the cannon will always be facing left

[remote star]

Yep ik, actually this will be a tileset prop for red banzai bill that chases the player

[remote star]

LMAOOOOO

[remote star]

Thx! ^^

[remote star]

I plan putting it on subnohara maybe

[remote star]

Ssmb maps kinda resemble nsmbw and nsmbu maps imo

I really love this detail

Ngl im amazed with w2 map lol

[trail vapor]

i think you meant "resemble"

[remote star]

Yea

Thx! ^^

[trail vapor]

tho yeah they kinda do. tho more like nsmbwii tho

[remote star]

Yea

[trail vapor]

a mix of nsmbds and nsmbwii

[remote star]

THIS

[trail vapor]

tho some worldmaps give slight nsmbu vibes

[remote star]

W2 feel like a mix of w4/w6 on nsmbw and w3 in nsmbu

W1 feels totally like nsmbw and ds w1

[floral hemlock]

jpg un rotate this stupid model...

😭

[remote star]

Its not the model 😭

Its code

Im pretty sure its on onCreate but im lazy to do it 😭

[floral hemlock]

[remote star]

Bah fine ill do it

I Need to do it? 😭

I dont want to change 2 numbers 😭

Ok ok ill do it

@floral hemlock

Like this is good right?

-#

Anyways, done

[trail vapor]

does it go to the right or something?

[remote star]

Yea

[trail vapor]

okay

[remote star]

Right, left, up and down

It can go

[trail vapor]

what was the point of Jouner getting mad if they usually go to the left tho?

[remote star]

Based on nybble

It wanst rotated like nsmbu i think

[trail vapor]

oh so you added that to the code? or did someone else do it?

[remote star]

Illy added it already actually

[trail vapor]

okay

[remote star]

I just edited the torpedo rotation

[floral hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-the-next-step-for-immigration-immigration-alien-locked-in-alien-locked-in-gif-7143551599349454414

[sweet owl]

they are not ment to go up and down, there hitboxes dont get changed, that just works cause they are a cannon ball copy and paste

[remote star]

Yea ik

I dont really use them up and down anyways

Since i use them with actor spawner and those torpedo boxes

[remote star]

I wish the torpedo could have those hands that dispose it 😭

[trail vapor]

you mean the torpedo spawner box?

[remote star]

Yea

[trail vapor]

you made that animation at some point. it would be nice to reintroduce it somehow (tho you would also probably need to make the torpedo teds spawn with code)

also it wouldn't match the dark lighting

[remote star]

It could match if i add ligth for it

Enable it i mean

[trail vapor]

yeah but it was a 2d texture

it would most likely work if you make it 3d tho

[remote star]

Even being flat texture it can have ligth enabled actually

[trail vapor]

yeah but i don't think that would be accurate to the lightning of the torpedo ted itself. unless you pre-render it in advance while it's affected by the same lighting

[remote star]

Ohhhh ic

[remote star]

https://www.youtube.com/live/khhMWVmVzIc?si=1IwoHmUtvlupobzC
:3

[fickle sphinx]

jpeg i think you might wanna remove incomplete unbeatable levels from demos

[remote star]

Its a devbuild actually

[remote star]

After u finish 2-A ill go back to 5-3 and ngl i need to finish that level cuz its rotting on the freezer basically

Im holding it as a unfinished level since early ssmb days

Beside 1-3, this is the olderst level of ssmb

1-3 is the oldest non scrapped level

I might reintroduce old scrapped levels like 1-1 old and 2-1 old, those were really neat quality, 1-1 i might do as 1-6, and 2-1 as 3-4

Or 3-B

We'll see

Obviously they will have changes to fit the ssmb current standarts

@floral hemlock btw, on the new w3 map add space for 3-4, 3-5 and 3-6

3 more levels for w3

And add 2 toad houses, one being acessable via pipe

We will remake the whole path so yea

Lets take advantage of that

[floral hemlock]

jpg, I didn't even finish w2, and type this things on dms rather here because I will forget about them 😭

lmao

[remote star]

Sure, sorry abt that 😭

[trail vapor]

rotting on the freezer??

[remote star]

Its an analogy because I haven't touched on the stage for a long time

[trail vapor]

yeah but what the hell does this analogy mean 😭

why would something be rotting... on the freezer specifically??

[remote star]

Usually we say it on Brazil, ex: theres an old phone that you didn't used it for a long time, we usually say like "and that phone that you let rotting on the freezer?"

[trail vapor]

ohhh

so like, forgetting it on the freezer because you put things on it sometimes, and potentially forget because the place is kinda hard to access

interesting

[remote star]

Yea

[trail vapor]

tho the word "rotting" kinda confused me for a bit, because like, i don't think the level can rot. and things in general don't rot specifically on the freezer

it's also because i got confused at first because it sounds similar to a french word "rôtir" which is a way to cook, usually chicken (hence the term "rotisserie chicken"). and a freezer would do the opposite of cooking things. so there's also that 😭

[remote star]

Its probably a misstranslation cuz we say "já tá apodrecendo no congelador" (its rotting on the freezer) but the word rotting/apodrecendo is usually used here cuz usually stuff take a long time to rot so its a way to say you forgot smth you should've done long ago (kinda like 5-3, wich i shouldve finished it in 2024 😭)

But yea it can be confusing honestly

[trail vapor]

yeah i get the logic behind it. it kinda makes sense

[remote star]

Lmaooooo 😭

This remembered when i said lmao juice instead of lemon juice 😭

-# this because lemon is limão in portuguese

[trail vapor]

lmao (juice) 😭

[remote star]

LMAOO 😭

[severe heart]

LMAOnaise move over
LMAO juice is the new shit

[remote star]

ill try making progress today

i wanted to make custom level node sprites n such

im happy with new torpedo models

[remote star]

I added animation to torpedo ted arms

Yeyeyeye

[remote star]

I had a dream where i finished 5-3 and 2-A 😭
Everything but progress irl 🥀

[trail vapor]

just a thing (somehow came when you were typing lol)

lmfao 😭

[remote star]

Lmaoooo 😭

[trail vapor]

how come there are 2 people who had a dream that they had finished a level in the same day 😭 (both you and Lanza)

[remote star]

WAIT WHA

[trail vapor]

the thing is, lmao juice actually exists 😭

[remote star]

NAAAAAAHHHHH 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[remote star]

Edited bg de hackrom's bg and make it fitting the level

@floral hemlock

[floral hemlock]

if you resxaled those I will ban you

Tbh looks great

just make the sand look more like the one from desert theme

and remake the trees....

[remote star]

I could use w2 bg

And recolor it

[floral hemlock]

never rescale my stuff that were intended for something completely different ever again 😭

I will understand only if it's placeholder

otherwise not

[remote star]

Only the small tree is rescaled

The big one have the actual size

[obsidian basin]

Looks good jpg

[remote star]

Thx yall ^^

@floral hemlock

[trail vapor]

nice!! tho why does it feel like 2 bg layers at once...

[floral hemlock]

jpg, i beg you

smooth out the edges...

i hate that

here improved colours

you are limiting the palette too much reallt

[remote star]

For some reason the Bg is too low on the level

How to fix that

[fickle sphinx]

how does the level look in the edior and in game n whas the bg block look like

[remote star]

its this bg, in the editor it looks the same but in game its like offseted and the sand dont apear

[fickle sphinx]

yeah but like

how much is it offset in game n what does the view look like in the level editor

n whatre the settings for the bg looping in the bg block

[remote star]

02 02

ill show in editor

now in game

[obsidian basin]

jpg cooking

he sending screenshots

[remote star]

fr

[fickle sphinx]

im gonna be heading out rn so im not sure if thisll work but try setting byte 15 in block 5 to 04

[obsidian basin]

whacha doin

[remote star]

oki

[obsidian basin]

oh wow

[fickle sphinx]

do you mean what the byte thing does or what im doing irl

[remote star]

i count the 00 as a byte orr every number as it own

[remote star]

glad u liked it ^^

[fickle sphinx]

count starting from 1

[obsidian basin]

i'm being DM but talking to DM so both >:)

[remote star]

so i count each number as it own right?

[fickle sphinx]

yea

[remote star]

like 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 4

[fickle sphinx]

wait

[remote star]

instead of 00 04 00 04

[fickle sphinx]

hold on

chage the red higlighted one

[remote star]

oki

[fickle sphinx]

irl im walking to pick up my siblimg from school
bytes 15/16 control bg vertical offset (by 8 pixels im assuming)

[remote star]

LMAO

i think i added 50 instead of 05

[obsidian basin]

lol

cursedland

[remote star]

ill add 04 cuz 05 have a slight offset

[remote star]

real

floating beach

[obsidian basin]

floating jpg

[remote star]

LMAO

peak!

thx dm!!!!

[obsidian basin]

dm the goat

jpg one day u gonna have to help me with my map

[remote star]

sure! ^^

[obsidian basin]

cursed

[remote star]

i like this tileset, look nice!

[obsidian basin]

yeah had to reset the w1.nsmbd folder

[obsidian basin]

thanks

the grass remains shit but i'm too stubborn

[trail vapor]

WAIT SO YOU'RE TELLING ME I DIDN'T HAVE TO DO SCROLL STOP CRAP?? 😭

[fickle sphinx]

not sure

would need more context

[trail vapor]

to make the background offset higher, i extended the view downwards, and added vertical scroll stops at the bottom. so the view would technically start lower so the background would get offset, but the part below the scroll stops is not accessible and is only there so the background can get offset. and so it would look like a view that isn't extended downwards but with the background being offset

[sweet owl]

do u happen to have a list of what the hex values in the level header do?

cause I really wanna add the option to offset bg's lol

[fickle sphinx]

ah gotcha

[fickle sphinx]

atm not formally no

but i could prolly try to make one

[sweet owl]

all good, I understand how this works

its pretty simple it seams

[trail vapor]

are you... trying to implement this as a menu in nsmbe?

[remote star]

I made the torpedo teds black again

It was probably going to make people mistook the behivour

[remote star]

Bruh now the banzai bill Crashes what i did wrong this time

The red one

Nvm

The file id just changed and I didn't even touched it

Typical shit that happens ONLY to me

Only on the cpp file too

Very important detail for whatever changed the id back

Ignore the UwU

Small bullet bill

[floral hemlock]

those bg trees are ugly

Very ugly.

especially too big

[floral hemlock]

you should put the level 2 tiles below, it looks weird lime that

[trail vapor]

you literally drew them...

[trail vapor]

tho i agree with that. they're too big and harder to distinguish from the gameplay/tileset layer. making them smaller might be the solution

[remote star]

@floral hemlock bg de hackroms did this

[trail vapor]

oh pretty nice

[remote star]

4-A is crashing

[trail vapor]

crap

[remote star]

Ik what causes

Fire bubble

[trail vapor]

why did i think of Fire Bubble Land...

[remote star]

LMAO

I think i fixed it

Ill honestly shit myself bro

Why the file ids just changed back bro, it was working before

Yesterday it happened with the chasing bill, now the bubble, then what

Wait it wasnt the file id

How the file unfzeed itself

Anyway fixed

[trail vapor]

did you modify the rom files in any way? (renaming them, adding files with a script, modifying the rom with EFE, etc)
(doesn't include replacing textures, tilesets, nor modifying levels)

[remote star]

I added files yea

With script

[trail vapor]

so that's most likely why

[floral hemlock]

wtf is that

if I will ever see this in your hack I'm gonna sell you

[remote star]

Already in the hack

Fits better ds style honestly

I should make a better tileset for w4 too

@floral hemlock any inspiration i should take?

Also guys i got a idea for the special world, what if i edited nsmbds W1 map, add the sunrise bg and add the nodes for ☆-1 and ☆-peaches castle

[floral hemlock]

irl ground

night time forest

[remote star]

Gotcha

Ill take a look at those

[floral hemlock]

the one with more red ish vibes

I mean, cloudy night in forest

[remote star]

Ooo oki

[remote star]

☆-1 will be a airship btw

Half airship

And yea the level start will be smth similar to nsmb 1-1

[obsidian basin]

~Make it airship fortress~~

Fuck i failed

[remote star]

@floral hemlock what u think?

W☆ is mushroom kingdom

[obsidian basin]

oo nice

[floral hemlock]

JPGs mindset:
Jouner suggest him his idea
JPG after a month ask jouner if jouner idea is good

guess

[cyan stirrup]

Jpg check shurken team pls

[remote star]

Real

[remote star]

Oki

[remote star]

Ill try making my nsmb bg im 3d on blender

This

[trail vapor]

jpg i don't see how the fact that you're (seemingly) 3d has to do with blender
(/j, because you said "im 3d on blender")

-# i'm not funny...

[remote star]

LMAO

[remote star]

That was funny tho

[trail vapor]

well idk i just feel like most people would find it unfunny

[edgy heron]

tbh saying you think you aren’t funny just ruins the joke imo

[remote star]

I made a wonderful pile of feces 🤩

I WILL FUCKING SCREAM

😭

I give up!

[edgy heron]

why..? i dont even see whats bad in what you showed other than the seemingly smooth shades or unproportional shapes

actually you know what i even prefer how the blender one looks compared to the 2d one

btw if you want to model it better you should setup the camera and preview the image with it

[remote star]

Ohhhh

Ill try it

[remote star]

ok made the mesh again

this time i probably can do it............... right?

i have smooth brain

so probably not

[trail vapor]

the problem here is that the background would logically have 45° angles only, and probably also that it might not all "start" on the same surface/depth

[obsidian basin]

Wonderful sight of jpg poopiefarts

[remote star]

🤓

[remote star]

Now i was thinking, this was the first hack to have a 3d subnohara and all the tilesets extended

[sweet owl]

I was the first hack with a 3d subnohara

And with blue pipes that don’t overwrite any existing pipe tiles

[remote star]

By subnohara i meant the flagpole

[trail vapor]

yeah JPG made that custom flagpole first

[remote star]

I plan doing a castle later following the same model as nsmbds one

[trail vapor]

interesting

[remote star]

This i mean

[trail vapor]

yeah that's what i thought

are you making it actually 3d or are you just gonna layer 2d planes?

also i actually had planned to use this castle in TRQ for the new sub nohara (and so the secret exit one would have been a grayscale version of this). it could have been cool as well but i preferred using the nsmbu one

[remote star]

Actually 3d Yea

2d plane would be very vram consuming

[sweet owl]

My flag pole is on the jyotyu so I don’t need to and I also don’t want to redo the flag pole broken models

Actually, those could just be used instead lol

[remote star]

Fair, i dont have the flagpole on jyotyu since its a custom one, and since i dont use mega shroom i feel like there's Wanst a reason to dont making it 3d

[remote star]

Yea mine is a modified version of this

[sweet owl]

It’s using recourses that could be used elsewheee to be fair

[sweet owl]

Did u make ur own one fully?

[remote star]

I used wiki tutorial

[sweet owl]

My one is just the retail one with new textures

[remote star]

For extracting modelrs

And then i just added the base

The nice thing is that its affected by 3d lights

The Neat part: u can add stuff behind it

Also, on w3 i made dry waterfalls for levels that dont have the animated bg tileset slot

[remote star]

Guys i was thinking in retexturing those moving bones on w4 to moving wood logs, what yall think

Btw the ds styled journer bg is on game already

But i didn't put on mobile yet

[trail vapor]

those moving bones*...

[remote star]

OPS

Sorry yall

[edgy heron]

jpeg that was a terrible r😭

[edgy heron]

could be interesting though it kinda removes the spooky vibe

[trail vapor]

yeah maybe make the bottom part have some shadow

[remote star]

Yea tru

[remote star]

😭

[remote star]

Finished

[trail vapor]

oh nice!!

[floral hemlock]

give me that bone sprite

[remote star]

Sure

Its from newer

[floral hemlock]

if you ever show us anything from newer i will delete your hack

https://tenor.com/view/blm-gif-25815938

[remote star]

@floral hemlock normal map

Now ill try find a good one

Renderd

Ill edit now

@floral hemlock

It feels like a nsmb bg honestly

@floral hemlock would u mind improving it pls

[trail vapor]

uhh... some surfaces look flat or inverted...

[floral hemlock]

too busy for this kind of things

make clouds more Orange

[floral hemlock]

true

[remote star]

[remote star]

Im shitting bro

I hate this

Give up

[remote star]

Horrible way to say i gave up but ok

Anyways ill try again LATEr

Later

This dont fit.....

Someone help me

Im almost making a lobotomy on myself 😭

[trail vapor]

maybe make the edges less strong and a bit more blurry?

[remote star]

Yea ill give a try

Honestly i wanted to make it exactly like that

But idk hos it was done

[trail vapor]

what?

that doesn't really look like the nsmb2 one in terms of shading

[remote star]

This is definitelly doable, i would just how it was done

[remote star]

Its a nsmb styled version of that nsmb2 and smw bg

I found on mfgg

[trail vapor]

maybe some kind of gradient on the outside or something

and some noise

i think i could probably know how to do that in paint.net, a bit complicated tho (mostly complicated to explain tho)

[remote star]

This?

[trail vapor]

oh pretty similar it seems

tho it doesn't have much light on the sides

[remote star]

Yea it looks way better and kinda fits nds style now

[trail vapor]

also honestly the one you've shown doesn't feel too "nsmbds-styled" imo

[trail vapor]

maybe separate it into a few layers and apply the same effect on them

[remote star]

Gotcha

[trail vapor]

also i said this too

[remote star]

Its more inbetween nsmb - nsmb2

[trail vapor]

i guess

[remote star]

Added bit more of stuff

[trail vapor]

wow yeah the two match pretty well i think

i think there are 2 issues tho:

• the one on top has a more "distinctly 3d" shape while the one on the bottom not really. that's not your fault i think, more so the one of the ones who made the original backgrounds
• yeah actually idk what was meant to be the second one or if there was a second one to begin with. if i remember, i'll edit the message

[floral hemlock]

jpg you are playing with this stupid bg for so long for no reason 😭

you could put literally original one with nearly no changes or nsmb2 version one and it would've been good....

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

right now it looks like blurry mess

[floral hemlock]

go with this and you will be good

[remote star]

Guess what? Ill do this shit instead

[remote star]

I feel it dont work well on ds

Candy rock mines

[remote star]

Now im happy with ts

1 sec to render

[floral hemlock]

[floral hemlock]

..............

nsmbu

dont talk to me ever again

it's like a crime

[remote star]

I dont have a better texture 😭

[hard sapphire]

make one lmao

[remote star]

Its the wavy patern

[remote star]

Im horrible at that 😔

Jouner is good but i didn't wanted to bother him at it

[hard sapphire]

use the nsmbds overworld as a base and recolor it

[remote star]

Maybe yea

[remote star]

How tho 😭

[floral hemlock]

make one lmao

[remote star]

Idk doing good textures

[floral hemlock]

............................................

im gonna cry in a moment

[crimson dome]

JPG, I'm gonna say this as a friendly advice because you seem a little stressed about this, you will never learn how to make DS-Styled backgrounds if you constantly expect Jouner to do everything for you or if you give up 5 minutes after trying to do it yourself, and you won't be able to accurately replicate the style of vanilla backgrounds on your first attempt, and that's why you need to practice until you get a result you're satisfied with, you have great modelling skills and I'm pretty sure you can make something great if you're dedicated enough, so please, be more patient, stop self-deprecating, stop constantly depending on Jouner's opinion and don't give up, you have potential, and you learned something that many of us are not capable of doing

[remote star]

I see, thx for the advice, the model itself im pretty happy with so now ill focus on the texture ^^

[crimson dome]

I'm not trying to discourage you, I am only advising you to stop always relying on others and to trust your own judgment and abilities

[remote star]

Yup ik, i promisse ill try always myself first multiple times cuz it took me a while but i made a model im happy with so if i did it i can do the texture, i appreciate the advice and ill follow it, not only on nsmb modding but on everything :>

Ill take a look at Stone nsmb bg's and see how they where made, then take a inspo from smth and do the texture

[remote star]

Honestly im happy

Screenshot too, ofc

[trail vapor]

not really in the mood to give feedback rn

but honestly, i don't really like the way it looks

[remote star]

Smth happened? If u wanna talk feel free to 🫂

[trail vapor]

first, here, we can see some weird gray pixels that seem to be part of the edges of the mountain. please remove them or polish them somehow

[trail vapor]

maybe in dms later. thanks 🫂

[remote star]

Yea the gray pixels are from the blender render, ill clean up mostly later since i imported more to see how it would blend

[trail vapor]

i think my biggest issue is probably the bottom bg, and how it (doesn't) blends with the top bg

[remote star]

Yea true, i plan making a new bottom bg too

Using the chicken clouds

[trail vapor]

they feel kinda unrelated together. and i think i probably don't really like the bottom bg itself

[remote star]

Yea honestly same

[trail vapor]

so the cloud bg has a few issues imo:

• the top/edge parts are darker, even if they're the ones that are more likely to receive the sunlight (because it seems to be a sunset)
• if it's a sunset, the gradient feels a bit too strong imo. and usually in sunsets, it has a yellow-orange-purple vertical gradient, starting from yellow at the bottom (you don't HAVE to add the purple part tho). the way it's done here also feels like the gradient is concentrated to a specific space, which feels kinda weird
• if this bg is only used with this top bg, i'd suggest including elements from this top bg in the bottom one

the top bg also doesn't really match the bottom one

• the light source seems to come from the top and from the front, while the sun is at the middle (or so, and from behind. it's not much of a problem and could still work well tho
• i also feel like there should be clouds around the mountains, because here they just feel in front of them for no particular reason

also i feel like the "pattern" of the mountains is wrongly applied. it feels like you just pasted the texture on top, rather than being the texture of the 3d model (if that makes sense). i would suggest stretching the textures depending on the surface they're in. for example if it's a wall, squish it horizontally, and if it's a slope, tilt (nor rotate) the image diagonally, kinda like you would do with slopes

[remote star]

I see

[warm condor]

i'm having Sonic The Hedgehog vibes with that bg

[trail vapor]

kinda yeah i guess

oh there's also the fact that, for the gradient, the yellow feels too "intense" (probably gradient being on the same place, and also saturation), while the orange feels darker (tho also pretty saturated)

[crimson dome]

I don't think it's necessary to add fog at the bottom of the hills, that makes it look weird

[remote star]

Fair

I could use the cloud from nsmb itself

[trail vapor]

maybe just reuse some cloud pattern and that would look nice

also the further away they are, the more they should feel "foggy" imo (here make them more similar to the clouds' color the further away they are from the camera)

[worthy fern]

I don't know why, but it seems very familiar to me.

[remote star]

Its smw

And nsmbu

W6

Wich is the same bg from smw but remade

[trail vapor]

also isn't it the rock from the underwater bg?

[remote star]

Yup

[trail vapor]

okay

[worthy fern]

It reminds me of Mario the new worlds

[remote star]

This one dont fit much ds ig

But is nice too

[trail vapor]

yeah. not only that, it clashes with the tileset that looks more realistic and more like nsmbwii

[remote star]

Yea

[floral hemlock]

yes because it was for nsmb2

now remove the grading on edges and you have nsmb

jouner helps

[remote star]

LMAO

[trail vapor]

in the second image, it feels like the mountains have a lot of details compared to the rest

[remote star]

True, ill try fixing it

[trail vapor]

tho it's kinda sad if you scrapped the other cloud bg. i felt like it was interesting, tho needed some improvements

[remote star]

Ill reuse it in a level of the new w4 map

Ill just wait until jouner improved it, ill add 2 new levels, 4-C and 4-Castle, wich will be a cannon to w5

[trail vapor]

okay then

also i feel like the shading for... pretty much everything in the backgrounds of the second image, should be behind the clouds

[trail vapor]

here is an example of how the shading kinda looks like from behind the clouds (only the clouds in this image)

try to do something similar for the mountains as well

[remote star]

Yea i plan doing it

Well, Ill go to sleep now guys, gn ^^

[trail vapor]

okay

[remote star]

Today i hope to finish 2-A

[remote star]

I had a idea for 5-ship, the level name would be singularity ferry, and the bg would be the blackhole, and the level timer would run out faster and the player would need to get clocks all over the level

[remote star]

Made the w4 bg more nsmb ish

Recreated a textuee

Texture

[trail vapor]

doesn't time get slower in black holes tho?

or i think if something goes in a black hole, it appears to slow down, but the object itself experiences time going extremely fast

[remote star]

Yep

The name is Time dilatation iirc

[trail vapor]

probably

[remote star]

Im making the bottom bg on blender too

Only the cliffs tho

[trail vapor]

JPG what did i say for the sunset silhouette background...

[remote star]

I forgot 😭

Ill search for the message

[remote star]

Good idea

[trail vapor]

uhh i'm not quite sure...

i think you should adjust the colors. they're a bit too red-ish, especially the clouds that are right below the mountains/cliffs

[crimson dome]

I agree, this looks unnecessarily redish

[remote star]

In game

[remote star]

Yea true

[trail vapor]

wow i like how it looks!

the top bg for the sunset silhouette feels a bit too brown compared to the rest tho

[remote star]

Yea i tried fixing it here

Thx btw!! ^^

Im so happy because its my first nds styled bg that worked

On blender

It gives me a LOT of motivation for making tilesets too

I need 2 tilesets on ssmb that would be weird if drawn

So ill 3d it

[trail vapor]

i really like these stone cliffs

[trail vapor]

actually the clouds were fine before, except for the ones below the cliffs. now the clouds kinda look too yellow i think. the ones below the cliffs now look fine. and the cliffs look a bit red-ish but that might work if you make the clouds the previous color again

[floral hemlock]

JPG, that rocky mountain is too contrasted

[trail vapor]

it's meant to be for a silhouette level. it makes sense that it would be contrasted

[floral hemlock]

then jpg needs to make clouds have good colour since theyre too "yellow"

or not saturated just

whatevver

[trail vapor]

yeah they were originally more orange-ish

[trail vapor]

here. and i think that would be the right color for the clouds (except the ones below the cliffs)

[night tapir]

JPG?
Yes Papa!
Bothering Jouner?
No papa!
Telling Lies?
No Papa!
Open your mouth!
Haha fuck you

[crimson dome]

https://tenor.com/view/midnight-the-cat-stopped-working-midnight-the-cat-cat-cat-meme-funny-cat-gif-81113296414293415

[floral hemlock]

This thing made my day even better

[misty geyser]

red mist level

[vapid isle]

👀

[remote star]

@vapid isle

[vapid isle]

Hmm

What did you change about normal Mario then?

Or is it really just the standard NSMB Mario model but rotated?

[remote star]

I used a code that make mario rotation be like on mario wonder

[remote star]

Yep this

[vapid isle]

Ah okay

The powerup looks are cool too!

[trail vapor]

is it me or mario's torso texture on the second image has a problem?

[remote star]

Nah its mario animation that looks weird on a single frame

[remote star]

Thx!!
I like them too, William did a great job

Theres also the 3d flag pole

This will be the level ill work on after 2-A and 5-3

[vapid isle]

Cool world maps

[fierce vine]

45.5k messages 😭

this is amazing though

2nd best rom hack oat 🤑🤑🤑

nsmbds

i love the world maps

[obsidian basin]

Gimme :333

[remote star]

Sure ^^

Textures

[cyan stirrup]

Ohhhh boi, I'm sending it...

[remote star]

Ill make the model now

[remote star]

Done

@sweet owl hey sis, here's the stuff, the tedTub animation have the disposing and retracting anims

[obsidian basin]

waiting :3

[remote star]

@obsidian basin

[obsidian basin]

yay!

what's cheep cheep eerie

[remote star]

I think its smth i tried doing and went wrong

[obsidian basin]

can i remove mega mario and shell mario stuff

[remote star]

Remove only cheep cheep then u can patch

[obsidian basin]

i suppose normal mario is for mini, big small and fire flower?

[remote star]

Yup

[obsidian basin]

since FB has no mega shroom and shell ig they could be gone but if I ever get to ice flower and stuff i'll keep them ig

[remote star]

Finishing 2-A

[remote star]

I made a sseq and ill publish later

For death sound effect

From smw

[trail vapor]

oh nice

[remote star]

The torpedo tube model looks amazing

The anims too

Finally w2-3 will have acurate torpedo teds

[remote star]

@floral hemlock ill add the transparent paths to w2 and w1

[floral hemlock]

YIPPIE

[remote star]

Can we make w2 final 🥺

The current

Well, now ill get positions of the nodes and make it their path anims

Ill do w2 first cuz it will be easier honestly

Actually no

W1 done

[obsidian basin]

noice

[remote star]

W2 done

[fickle sphinx]

nice

[remote star]

I requested a code hack to nuke that going to next world animation cuz its glitchy on custom maps

[remote star]

The hack quality is rocketing recently and it makes me really happy

First its the nds tilesets, then better bgs, then original music, then better filesize, then better worldmaps, then console compatibility

[trail vapor]

yeah honestly the quality has become better lately

[night tapir]

How many worlds are left?

[remote star]

Bro i cant solve this cutscene bug when u finish a world

[remote star]

LMAO

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-mario-64-sm64-super-mario-goku-gif-2924386200580697487

[remote star]

2-A is closer to getting finished

[remote star]

Bro someone know how to nuke this cutscene and just make mario spawn on the next world after beating a castle 😭

Acidentally made the train part of the path but i like it so im keeping

We are close to ssmb 2 years anniversary

I started it 2 days after i joined the server so december 10

[trail vapor]

TRANSPARENT PATHS IN SAKURA SMB??? wow

[trail vapor]

yeah really annoying. also mario is tiny 😭

[remote star]

Yea 😭

[trail vapor]

might seem weird/not work but, have you tried putting a path after the castle and see if it works?

[remote star]

Yup

[trail vapor]

ehh it's a bit weird that the train is transparent. you don't see towers or castles being transparent on the worldmap

[remote star]

I linked a path animation in the code like the tutorial explain but it dont work

So i requested a code hack to nuke it, it will make the game more clean too

[remote star]

Eh i tried everything i could now, nothing solves. Ill just wait now cuz it will be the only thing that will fix

Ill work on the levels now

After 2-A and 5-3 ill make 2-4

2-4 will be interesting

And the only beach level on ssmb

[remote star]

Hope i dont need to edit w1 more or w2 cuz the paths is kinda boring to do

Jouner pls let me make w2 and w1 final 😭

I added.... some secrets to w4-1
Dare you to find it without looking at the level editor once the game release tehehe

Hehe

It have 1 moon, and a secret 1 up wich is even harder

[remote star]

Well, im finishing w2-3

2-A

Im happy with transparent paths

-# except with that damn bug that idk why nintendo did that cutscene

4 chunks!!!!

5*

Now its 4

3

2

[edgy heron]

1

[remote star]

Exactly

Done

Finished

[remote star]

so now that i finished 2-A ill work on 5-3

this level is probably cursed tho cuz i can never finish it

[obsidian basin]

Why

[remote star]

im trying to finish it for half a year i think

[obsidian basin]

What's it about

[remote star]

its a space acid volcano level

[obsidian basin]

Falling acid

[remote star]

im thinking in making w5 volcano levels be underground so ill make more parts of it and make a underground section

in the map i kinda wanted to add a underground part so its the best oportunity

w5 is feelin so much like newer wii w8 and i dont like this 😭

[obsidian basin]

I mean jpg it took me months to craft my 1-1

[remote star]

some people may remember, ssmb for not really long ago only had 1-1 and half 1-3\1-2

mostly bester dm and william i think

[trail vapor]

i feel like having 1 or 2 underground-like levels could be nice. but i kinda like how it currently is

also i don't feel like it feels like newerwii. only the space theme kinda (feels kinda similar to world 7) but that's it

[remote star]

Yea true

Im getting hid of every newer ds stuff

The last part will be the hud

[remote star]

World list for ssmb + common powerups on each world

W1: blossom plains, shuriken plant and bubble flower
W2: rex's islands, boomerang flower and acorn
W3: midnight village, acorn and bubble flower
W4: wasted badlands, acorn and fire flower
W5: blackhole valley, all powerups
W☆: shuriken plant, acorn and bubble

[trail vapor]

interesting

not fully sure about each world having its own powerups tho

imo powerups depend on the level their they're in mostly

[remote star]

Every powerup will apear on every world, but each world have the most common one

W2 for example, its mostly mountain, so acorn and boomerang are best

[trail vapor]

okay then

[remote star]

Ssmb will be pretty consistent on world themes, unlike vanilla nsmb wich seens to have mixed themes

And if the level have a slightly different theme, the map have a pointer for them

Like w2 beach or w1 red forest

And even tho i blend the different theme with the world theme

[remote star]

me sitting on the chair looking at the screen with 5-3 opened and idk what to do:

[remote star]

Ill make the head and shell for shuriken mario before i forget

The head will be the same as boomerang but pink

@elder crystal can the player head and shell models have more than 2 models inside it or the game hates it?

Actually ill do the model, and i send it to u so u can see uf it will give any problem on melonds

[remote star]

Added some stuff on boomerang mario head too, like those things that have on helmets to hold it on your head

And finished all the models too

Rexy acorn head, mario acorn head, and acorn shell

[trail vapor]

what's the gimmicks?

[remote star]

Space physics, acid hazards, green podoboos and dry bones

[trail vapor]

i think the game would "hate it" if it doesn't manage to properly load a model, for example when it's missing. so i think that it should be fine, but better test

[trail vapor]

oh this one

[remote star]

It will be loaded when the shuriken powerup is done so i think the game will be fine with it

[trail vapor]

it seems to mostly focus on platforming, and it's quite complicated to combine the gimmicks together

[remote star]

Yea

[cyan stirrup]

Holy wacamoly, what a hack! I hope the creator is not a yapper!

[remote star]

LMAO

[cyan stirrup]

Btw

Why did you say 6 world hack?

[remote star]

W1 w2 w3 w4 w5 w☆

[cyan stirrup]

Ah ye i forgor

DAMN I WAS A [Descargar mediafire apk no virus 100% real no fake] KID!!!!

[remote star]

-# ngl when i was younger i was worse 😭

I apologize SuperGameCube for what i did on mkds server 😭

[cyan stirrup]

Damn, my first messages were in THIS thread

I was a jog fanboy

-# Read that wrong I dare you

[remote star]

[remote star]

I saw femboy at first 😭

[cyan stirrup]

Byw

btw*

Where did mosquito go?

[remote star]

He got banned because of a doxxing thing ig

[cyan stirrup]

WHAT

HE GOT DOXXED?

Or he doxxed someone?

[remote star]

Doxxed someone i think

[obsidian basin]

Yeah

[cyan stirrup]

LMAO

[remote star]

I cant describe what i imagined reading that 😭

[cyan stirrup]

24/12/24 btw 🥀

[remote star]

Its way closer to releasing now

[cyan stirrup]

Ye, now, not then 😭

[remote star]

I got a bit high on general and i regret everything i said there 😭

[cyan stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-emoji-sad-emoji-emoji-stare-disgust-gif-405076546600269050

[crimson dome]

He didn't directly doxxed someone, but he was very close to the people who caused the doxxing and he was making jokes about it

[remote star]

Ohhhhh i see

[trail vapor]

oh wow didn't expect that...

[trail vapor]

oh

[remote star]

I added a spice up to things on 5-3 hihihi

Targeting banzai bills, and a king bill section

[trail vapor]

interesting i guess? it seems to kinda strays awah from the original idea

it would be weird if all of the things get randomly introduced later in the level

[remote star]

Nah its on the start

[remote star]

Ill create a blender scene for w3 map

[sweet owl]

Are u separating the powerups again?

And there isn’t a reason the archive couldn’t have more than two that I know of

[cyan stirrup]

Jog, what was the first power up idea you had for ssmb?

[remote star]

Theres a while, William said it wouldn't be hard to make the shuriken a spearated item

[remote star]

Ig, even tho i sent it to William, its good to be assured that it will work

[remote star]

First idea was hammer suit, then i changed it to shuriken plant

[cyan stirrup]

And then?

[remote star]

Boomerang

Then acorn

Then bubble flower

[cyan stirrup]

AJAAAAA

I've caught it!!!

You said it!!!!

[remote star]

Not november yet

[cyan stirrup]

Ye but you'll need to start anytime soon, and I'll be prepared to make you fall to your demise...

[cyan stirrup]

That could actually be a fire voiceline for Stanley in dm

[remote star]

TRUEEEE

Test

Shdhajdhahs still bad quality

[cyan stirrup]

-# Dm devbuild when

[cyan stirrup]

Jog has the Jouner sickness

It's good

[remote star]

Its the screenshot

[cyan stirrup]

Ah I thought you said the map

[remote star]

Nah the map is 10/10

[remote star]

Im progressing on 5-3

Half done!!

[remote star]

Iremember this old design jouner made for rexy, ill try making it

[trail vapor]

interesting

tho will that be for the playable Rexy?

[remote star]

Yup

[trail vapor]

nice

could be nice to see

[fickle sphinx]

that doesnt look like itd read well on the ds screen

gloves look nice tho

[remote star]

I found 2 ways to do a infinite lives trick on 5-3, ill keep them cuz theyre pretty hard to notice and i want players to find it

[trail vapor]

wait why the hell does the bg have weird horizontal lines here

[remote star]

Wait i didn't noticed that

The game dont have it

Weird

Nor im nsmbe

In*

New icons for w2 and w4

Ill make one for w3

I made everything yo follow jouner designer

[floral hemlock]

8/10

[floral hemlock]

w2 icon looks mid but i really love w3 one

oh and redraw w4 before i’ll check this channel again

[remote star]

😔

Yea w4 one looks a bit poluted

[trail vapor]

a bit weird that the "wX" is part of the same graphic as the whole tho imo

i feel like you should revert back to how it was in the vanilla game

[remote star]

It works the same actually

The wX is always visible

[fickle sphinx]

dont embed the wx in the world icon or itll look weird when it pulses a bit when you touch it

iirc

[floral hemlock]

@remote star Look exactly what i have changed, i used on waterfall, moon much less colours, replaced with colours from the ground that either looked very similiar to the other or just modified it's shade, and fix some things that made it messy (look at mountains, ground next to water fall)

@remote star

You need to remember JPG that you need to make things as simplistic and not messy as possible

wait this one

The same goes for trees and lava (and sand), it's hard to understand what exactly it wants to show and messy colours do not help

[floral hemlock]

@remote star

Look how much better element placement makes it look much better

still ain't perfect

but way better than before

because you caan cleary see what there is

here just redraw everthing, it cannot be saved lmao

make it different this time, put the moon on the middle and make it bigger, clouds are nice, do not invert the colours of the trees ever again, thats ugly af, and that palette is generally shit, make it more eye friendly

something liek this

The middle thing

is a bridge

you can make poison under the map too

oh and please, do not transition like that... it's messy, if you really want to make it this way, dont make the gridy thing so far

[tropic hound]

I adore these

[remote star]

OOOOOOOO

[remote star]

I got a idea already!!

[remote star]

Troll found

[floral hemlock]

Much better

[remote star]

A bit more colors

[remote star]

Yea

[trail vapor]

i really like these worldmap icons

[remote star]

Ill make one for w4 now cuz yeaaaaa....

[floral hemlock]

@remote star

[floral hemlock]

this one is near perfect

[remote star]

Oooooooooooooo

[floral hemlock]

You really used a very ugly palette there...

the bridge would've been nearly not visible from the screen

[remote star]

Yea true

[floral hemlock]

@remote star send me w5 icon

[remote star]

Oki

Removed the wX cuz this one would be horrible to edit with it

[remote star]

I wanted to add another half of the map with the gray grass thing and the acid volcanos What u think?

@floral hemlock

[floral hemlock]

No

😭

[remote star]

But w5 is like that 🥺

[floral hemlock]

yeah, it's rocky

and the normal look represents this world very well

you could add those green lines and it will be enough

you dont need to always represent everything possible on small icons

[remote star]

@floral hemlock

[floral hemlock]

too much jpg...........

really

[remote star]

Thats better ig

[obsidian basin]

nahjpg keep the rocks

[remote star]

It dont really fit much w5 theme

Thats definitelly better

Jouner, any opnion on what u tink?

[trail vapor]

oh i kinda like this

[trail vapor]

honestly it looks good but now it just looks like an icon for 3 worlds at once 😭

[remote star]

Its cuz w5 is kinda 2 separate world themes 😭

[trail vapor]

if anything, i would suggest taking the original one, and changing the theme of some of the meteors, without changing their shape

also i feel like on the original, the black part of the black hole should be larger

[remote star]

Yea true

[trail vapor]

also i should probably try to improve the existing TRQ worldmap icons

because i think they need improvements. just not sure how exactly tho

also making the w3, w4, w5 ones (not sure of what w7 and w8 will look like yet)

[remote star]

The blackhole looks better too

Than my old version

[trail vapor]

i'll be honest, my first thought when seeing this was an overdecorated gd level

it looks really cool, but imo there's just way too much going on. tho idk if we can make an exception for the final world, but it feels kinda too much still

[remote star]

Im convinced that today or tomorrow 5-3 is here

[remote star]

YES I WILL

5 CHUNKS LEFT

Im feeling like im being released from a cage lmao

[floral hemlock]

rocks were enough, the icon didn’t need anything more since it already represented the theme well

Too much really

Icons do not have to represent absolutely everything and should just give general idea, look at the w1 icon i have made

[remote star]

I mean but it would be disconex compared to the other icons

[floral hemlock]

Nah it wouldn’t be

[cyan stirrup]

Jog look a Shuriken team server

[remote star]

But let me use this one 🥺

[remote star]

Fun fact: the gray bushes from w5 volcano area are canonically edible

[severe heart]

Charcoal, hmm.

[remote star]

They would taste more like salty water

[severe heart]

Though, I have read of a pastry chef making meringue with charcoal.

[remote star]

And are a bit too spicy

[remote star]

I finally finished

Now i can do the beach level ig

I honestly feel i got released from chains or smth

[floral hemlock]

lmao you seem here that i say that you can’t use it at all, yeah go with it if you want but just know there better options

[remote star]

I was thinking in removing the blackhole from the icon cuz it inst really needed for the overall

Ill try not to have a lot of pending levels to finish now

Ill finish one, then start making another level

Ill try also doing 1 level per day

Or 2 per week

[trail vapor]

???

[trail vapor]

it's literally called Blackhole Valley... why are you removing the black hole??

[remote star]

Yea true

[trail vapor]

(sorry i just wanted to check how the sticker was called, and holding didn't work)

[remote star]

Those i mean

[trail vapor]

no but i mean... edible??? why??? how??? 😭

this also implies someone already tried eating them too 😭

[remote star]

The leafs can be eaten, its not smth new but i never told for some reason