Sakura SMB DS

[crimson dome]

JPG the gray volcano tileset looks good, I don't know why you suddenly want to change it to brown

[remote star]

I want to make the tileset match bg

[crimson dome]

The black version looked better

[remote star]

😭

[crimson dome]

And tilesets don't always have to match the bg

[remote star]

But it will be good i think

[crimson dome]

No

[floral hemlock]

because I have suggested him yesterday a cool colour hue of the tileset since I was experimenting and now he wants to change the tileset to brown because of the bg lol

atleast he would've showed a good looking "example" of that tileset being brown so it could not only match the bg but look good with it 😭

and I'm not a slave to do everything for jpg, since I don't have always the time

[remote star]

How i could do it, u have a color suggestion

[remote star]

And i need to learn too

[crimson dome]

You were the one who decided to work for JPG, so you signed your own slavery act

[floral hemlock]

worst decision on my life, I could've finished every tileset for nsmbaba 💔💔

[remote star]

Any of those is good?

[crimson dome]

And you wouldn't be descending into madness

[floral hemlock]

then spend time and experiment? rather do everything in 10 seconds and expect to it look good?

[floral hemlock]

Damn, I could've asked you in 2024 if you want custom tilesets for you hack rather jpg 💔

jk

[remote star]

Ill make some, and try making it more natural

[crimson dome]

In an alternate universe where SMB The Missing Lands uses custom tilesets and SSMB uses ported ones

[floral hemlock]

jpg, please just stay with original colours of the w2, or go with any other than ugly brown 💔😭 it will be the best

[remote star]

Then ill keep it gray

[floral hemlock]

And is the best looking mod with most custom new created tilesets ever

[remote star]

Oh true

Lemme fix the wing

For acorn

Just so i know what to fix

[floral hemlock]

make it slimmer generally

and smaller tail

[remote star]

Bro this boomerang looks so good

[remote star]

Sure

[remote star]

The tail inst big tho?

[floral hemlock]

check in nsmbu gameplay so it could be accurate

[remote star]

On wii u i mean

[floral hemlock]

not that much as I made

[remote star]

Ill download the nsmbu model so i can make the tail acurate

[floral hemlock]

that wing is literally nsmbu model but decimated and rescaled jpg 💔

[remote star]

Oh

[pseudo ravine]

Which enemy is Porcupuffer a reskin of here?

[floral hemlock]

open up ssmb, make a screenshot of mario flying and do the same with with nsmbu

[remote star]

Oh btw i have deco idea

[floral hemlock]

and see the difference

[remote star]

For 2-A

[floral hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pain-gif-25934677

[remote star]

Ill do it since its easy dw

[pseudo ravine]

Is it Cheep Chomp or big Cheep Cheep/Deep Cheep?

[remote star]

Its skeleton with water

[floral hemlock]

Yes yes jpg, I'm sure I will need to remake it

[remote star]

Spike bass

[floral hemlock]

lmao

[pseudo ravine]

Oh, isn't he underwater tho?

[remote star]

Nah

[pseudo ravine]

In that pic it seems like everyone's underwater

[remote star]

He jumps up to the surface

[pseudo ravine]

Even tho Spike Bass stays at the surface

[remote star]

Yep

[remote star]

What u think?

[pseudo ravine]

Why is Porcupuffer underwater then? Is the water level rising but he didn't catch up with it?

[remote star]

Yep

[pseudo ravine]

Oh ok

[remote star]

Fixed the acorn

Why the head model is called fucking donut lmao 😭

[remote star]

I did this based on this mvsl map, it will not be in game and is just for me to experiment colors

And this one based on a jouner suggestion from yesterday

[trail vapor]

JPG, i think changing it from gray to brown isn't a great idea. the different colors help giving some contrast and look nice together already. you don't need to change it and imo it wouldn't be great doing so

[floral hemlock]

mvsl 💔

[floral hemlock]

Bester look at this

[remote star]

Mario and luigi*

[floral hemlock]

This is perfect example

except those volcanos, fuck those

[remote star]

This is similar or nah?

[floral hemlock]

^ in this example i mean bester

[trail vapor]

i guess? it kinda blends with the water imo, and there isn't too much reason of it being blue

[remote star]

Its more a example of good color scheeme ig

[trail vapor]

well i liked the original one

[floral hemlock]

You know why i believe it's good? Blue and green goes very well with each other, with some playing around with the rocky ground it could've look even better, now you have lava, with extra details which i plan to do later on will look even greater, take the image below as an example what i mean

[trail vapor]

and tbh i think a brown-ish (but not too brown) version would probably work fine if done right (also yeah it would match the bg, and the bg that i got inspired from for the wmap)

[remote star]

Interesting

[floral hemlock]

Grey is also great, but we need to remember that other colours also can look great if WELL DONE

[remote star]

Yea that what jouner said before, he said that if i made the Brown good it would be neat

[floral hemlock]

yeah the water is a problem but vertex painting or texture itself is editable 💖

[trail vapor]

i guess, but it blends too much with the water i think (as i said)

[floral hemlock]

im not gonna play around with the tileset since you gonna say your beloved OOOO and beg me for it

im too tired for this lmao

[remote star]

Jouner i found a interesring color, can i show?

[remote star]

LMAO

[floral hemlock]

jpg, am i your mother that doesn't let do anything? you have free will, im just sharing opinions 😭

TLDR: yes you can

[remote star]

Kinda like the original and your example but red-ish, i dont know if u will find it good, but i find it interesting, maybe could be worked more but ill first hear your opnion

[trail vapor]

this looks pretty good actually

[floral hemlock]

JPG, that doesn't change nearly anything and you only make problems with nitropaint later on

😭

saying from experience 💔

[remote star]

What would yall suggest

[floral hemlock]

btw i send you updated version of this tileset long time ago, goodluck searching it

[remote star]

More saturation? Contrast or

[floral hemlock]

in this channel

[floral hemlock]

What would i suggest

LEAVE

THIS

TILESET

THE FUCK

ON

🗣️

[remote star]

LMFAO 😭

[trail vapor]

on FIRE IN THE HOLE

[remote star]

LMFAOFOAO

[floral hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/geometry-dash-lobotomy-fire-in-the-hole-gif-7824550818610760755

[remote star]

But yea ill keep it gray im just playing arround with colors

[trail vapor]

idk i think i saw people using the speaking head emoji for "fire in the hole" and i just thought about this 😭

[remote star]

@floral hemlock could u send the island tileset already? So i can import

[floral hemlock]

if i will remake that shit

[remote star]

Hey but its good

[floral hemlock]

if i said once it's not good and i will remake it i will remake it

man i can't find it

use an extended tileset for this one

[remote star]

Sure

All ssmb tilesets are extended

[floral hemlock]

and this is my tileset

which has never happened to be an extended tileset

btw, use the w2 ground in this tileset

since it's a tileset that i call "3in1"

but here i removed the rocky blue part because

1. it was ugly
2. didn't tile correctly
3. was pain to use

[remote star]

Sure

[sweet owl]

Ngl, I wanna use the jump rope song but make shy guys sing for one of my levels lol

[remote star]

https://youtu.be/7v8h4PolOPw?si=YwZ9zu-qozwWNHju

I added it in a sm64 area lol

Not the lyrics

[sweet owl]

I have a level in w7 that it would fit

[remote star]

Ill try finishing 5-3 today idk maybe

[trail vapor]

adding this in a mario hack is wild

apart from that, the song is a little repetitive, which may not really feel great in a mario level or area

(unless it's to make a specific effect)

[floral hemlock]

if you add this I'm not gonna make you anything

[floral hemlock]

damn I love trolling

[sweet owl]

if you think of it as an instrumental the repetition makes a good feel for a really difficult level

especially if the main gimmick one shots you can you constently have to jump over them to avoid getting flung into a pit

[trail vapor]

maybe idk

[remote star]

Nah ssmb have original soundtrack

[trail vapor]

based (having an original soundtrack)

[sweet owl]

I wish I had a composure lmao

I think my sound track is fine though

Lots of paper Mario music

[remote star]

Ssmb only need 2 songs for the ost to be completed

[frail estuary]

Hire one

[severe heart]

Hire Nintendo composers. Surely it wouldn't get you into trouble...

[frail estuary]

I'd be more concerned about said Nintendo composers if you did manage to hire them

[warm condor]

looks eggsactly like mine

[remote star]

eggsactly LMAOOO

I made it using my jyotyu block so it Matches it

[trail vapor]

so it Manchester it??? 😭

your autocorrect has a problem JPG 😭

[remote star]

And used yours as base for the pink spots size and location

[remote star]

It definitelly does 😭

Uses to acorn yesterday

[warm condor]

well, i feel it's like this meme anyways:

(it doesn't change anything)

[remote star]

LMAO

[warm condor]

it looks great tho

[remote star]

Thx! ^w^

Finding the colors wanst easy ngl

[fickle sphinx]

wgat level are you gonna use it in

[remote star]

New 2-2

That will have secret exit

It will be the level gimmick

[fickle sphinx]

gotcha

[remote star]

@elder crystal could u send the template for the nsmbe plugin? Cuz its confusing me on where the block is because of that blooper image and hitbox

[elder crystal]

https://discord.com/channels/399424476259024897/1399137765282545724

you need visual studio

[remote star]

Oh oki, thx!

[remote star]

I think i have it

[floral hemlock]

This can look more DS styled

anyway make it just more whiter rather blue

too much blue thisi time

[remote star]

Why ncpather 😔

William, is this because im in a older ncp version?

[remote star]

Yep i do

[remote star]

I see

[remote star]

Wait is it visual studio code or visual studio 2022

Or any

[frail estuary]

Probably code

Don't quote me on that tho

[remote star]

"Probably code"

-baron

-# im stupid 🔥

[hasty crane]

Visual Studio 2022

[remote star]

Oki

[hasty crane]

Very rare time it’s not VS Code

[remote star]

Gotcha

[remote star]

U know what causes this btw?

[hasty crane]

Your code template may be outdated

[remote star]

Sad

[hasty crane]

Do not update

[remote star]

Yea ik

William is updating my source code to the newest version, so ill wait

[hasty crane]

JPG why do you not use the screenshot tool

It would be a lot easier to read if you did

[remote star]

I always forgot its a thing 😭

[hasty crane]

😐

[warm condor]

windows + shift + S: 🗿

[remote star]

When ndy dont use a nsmbc emoji then its actually worrying

[sweet owl]

U remind me of myself when my pc’s wifi drivers shit themself and I need to take photos of command lines so I can cross check them

[remote star]

Take 2 rn

Done

Ill send here

The error here

Theres a code called yoshi off-set in ssmb source, i removed it, i think its what cause rexy memory leak

Cuz its related to luigi

If its true, ill dm william so he remove it from his source, since it can solve a lot of his time

[frail estuary]

Tf?

Why is that

[remote star]

Truth time

Hope it fixes rexy overflow cuz i really want to make my playtests playing as her instead cuz bigger jump

IT DOES

[hasty crane]

The plugin is written in C#. While you could use VS Code, you can't directly open the .sln file directly (which is a Visual Studio solution file)

[frail estuary]

Pain

[remote star]

Rexy still cant collect boomeramg cuz it crashes, but the whole overflow is over

[sweet owl]

Have u tried relaxing his models with the Mario ones? If so does it still crash

[remote star]

Let me see

Ill test rn

No

Dont crash anymore

Ill do another test

With only the head

Its the head file

@elder crystal another bug fixed

Rexy crashed on boomerang because the head file wanst correct

This will save more debugging

Ill send u the models in dm to test if it will crash on nds or nah

Ill make a boomerang rexy head

And acorn

Time to turn rexy into a furry too

Rexy was trying to load models that didn't existed

And crashed

[remote star]

Ok now ill test

ngl after the rexy bugs being almost all fixed im with more motivation in this mod, i already had motivation before ofc, but im more motivated than before now

[elder crystal]

we're getting somewhere

luigi_head_cap_LZ.bin and luigi_deadhead_LZ.bin still crash the game

[warm condor]

Rexuigi

[elder crystal]

it was luigi all along

in a rex suit

[remote star]

I may know what it is

[remote star]

Oh btw, u could make bubble flower load a head with pink hat for mario, and normal head for rexy?

[fickle sphinx]

this isnt related to anything but jpeg outta curiosity why do you use like 4 way path junctions for single level nodes

[remote star]

Its more beautiful

[remote star]

Bruh why everytime i think its fixed it returns 😭

I replaced rexy head with mario head

The overflow is related to that

WHY REXY HEAD IS GIVING A OVERFLOW 😭

Tho it wss expected since its what crash the game too

Does luigi head need any bone or smth?

Willam said Its a missing bone, easy fix then

[hasty crane]

JPG heads to the graveyard with a shovel…

[remote star]

LMAO

[trail vapor]

it's Luigi's ghost who's back to haunt you...

[remote star]

I added a bone but didn't worked 😔

I named it "mario_head"

And if i die sometimes with rexy the game still crashes...

Ok but the boomerang dont crash anymore, good progress

Wait theres a way to make so the game skips that node somehow? @elder crystal

That would probably save a bit of time

[elder crystal]

Probably

[remote star]

Then ill reimport the rexy head without bones

[floral hemlock]

everyone will agree except jpg that luigi > Rex

[floral hemlock]

lmaooo

how do you get so many errors

[floral hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/grave-mr-krabs-spongebob-gif-2001690236850582597

jpg when it's time to BEG ✨

[remote star]

Nsmb hates me

Frfr

[remote star]

Im trying to pin the message cuz its funny but the bot dont let me pin it 😔

Let me see if this pins

😔

"The app didn't respond"

[hasty crane]

Oh it's offline rn

I can just pin it for you

[remote star]

🔥

Thx!!

[remote star]

The title screen ost looks so fucking peak

[trail vapor]

oh pretty chill and nice!!

just a question tho: they're composed by kourtiss, right? will they be turned into sseqs?

[remote star]

Yeo kourtiss made them, Theyre optimized tho so probably ill keep nwav

Ssmb will have 190-140 mb when releases

[trail vapor]

better than the 330mb of the demo

[warm condor]

wait what?

[warm condor]

well

now ik that SSMB is heavier than GTA Chinatown Wars

[crimson dome]

And that's why SSEQ's are better than NWAV

[elder crystal]

In reality it's only 192mb

NSMBe inflates it

[remote star]

Ohh

[floral hemlock]

people think that nwav are good...?

[trail vapor]

i think they are but they shouldn't be abused

[crimson dome]

Everyone in this server used to be NWAV lovers until I learned how to make SSEQ's

[floral hemlock]

damn, I agree

[frail estuary]

There's a guy in Evo saying that he wants to make music for a mod

[remote star]

Guys, someone know how to move the coin counter and timer to the bottom screen?

[edgy heron]

you’ll need a code hack for that cause they’re rendered on the top screen

[remote star]

Yep ik

It would be like that:
Green = timer
Yellow = coin
Gray = shuriken coins

[floral hemlock]

leave timer in tip screen alone

[remote star]

That would make the gameplay cleaner on top screen tho

But yea timer is better in top

[trail vapor]

the timer and coins, especially the timer, is an element the player should access easily

if you look at how both screen are designed, the most important elements are on the top screen with the rest of the gameplay, and the slightly less important elements (lives, path, etc) are at the top of the bottom screen, so you can see them easily. other elements that are near the bottom are made larger to be more visible

but maybe i'm reading too much into it because sometimes the top and bottom screens switch and it just doesn't really apply anymore

[floral hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/kai-cenat-twitch-this-just-happened-on-kai's-stream-funny-skibidi-gif-4446364445021913783

I wanted to give you reality check but i forgot that you are just rabebaitting

thank god 🙏

[remote star]

Im not tho 😭

But as bester said it wouldn't work well

[floral hemlock]

and you didn't think of that....

[remote star]

When i think

[floral hemlock]

JPG one day, powieszę cie kurwa za twoje jajca na suchej gałęzi

[remote star]

Can i show the new w2 tileset concept btw?

I kinda liked how it feels

My wifi shitted itself yey

I really wanted to work on 3-A

[trail vapor]

i don't like it, really

blue doesn't really fit imo, and the skulls/dry bones being yellow-ish feels weird

[crimson dome]

...

I seriously don't understand why you're so fixated on changing the color of this tileset when the previous version was fine, and blue definitely does not fit in a volcano tileset, let alone with the volcano levels you've made

[remote star]

Jouner that gave me this idea

And tbh dont look that bad

[crimson dome]

It does

The blue color definitely does not fit in a volcano tileset, and the golden skulls in the ground do not make any sense

[warm condor]

it's a warped forest biome, and the skulls are golden because someone touched the golden ring from NSMB2

[floral hemlock]

Asks
Shows it anyway

[floral hemlock]

I regret it

[floral hemlock]

Zstar, not that it does not fit, it can fit but it has to be a tileset made in mind of that colour or correctly done on JPG's tileset which is clearly not.

Oh and those are not Golden, just more yellow which also do not look good because they weren't made for this colour

Remember, I'm not good at completely recoloring stuff and i preffer to make for ass tileset rather recolour it fully

That's why I don't want to really change that blue tileset from nsmbaba because I know I won't be make it look great

[crimson dome]

I genuinely don't see how this tileset could look good in another color that isn't dark gray, and I'm not buying the "it can be made well" excuse because I'm pretty sure it doesn't apply in this specific case, the tileset already looks good as it is and fits perfectly in the levels that JPG and you showcased, if you really want to recolor this tileset, at very least use it in different kinds of levels and with different decorations rather than replacing the entire original version of the tileset, because I seriously feel that's not necessary at all

[trail vapor]

honestly i kinda agree

from what we've seen, it tends to look worse if we change the colors, and the current ones were already good

[remote star]

Ill see if i finish 5-3 today

Im kinda without ideas for this level but whvr

[remote star]

I didn't finished.... 🤓

[floral hemlock]

go to sleep

[remote star]

😔

[remote star]

@floral hemlock does w2 have jumps? If yes where

Just to know cuz ill comment out in the w2.cpp

So i change later

[floral hemlock]

yes it has

no i will not change it

goodluck

see yain a month

[remote star]

No i want u to keep them

But i need to know wich part of the map have them

[floral hemlock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399424476728655893/1378709656641208320/opera_AFtvfdJb3k.gif

[remote star]

mark in red where the jump is pls 🥺
Ill need to know it to change the height of the node

Ik level 2-2 to 2-A have jumps

And toad house to 2-3

2-A and toad House also have X position changed right?

Cuz ill comment out like
"// Y and X changed"

And "//Y changed"

So when the map is done i know exactly what to change

Also can u add vertex paint on the map too?

(I can add then if u want tho ofc)

[floral hemlock]

remind me tommorow then

goodnight ;p

[remote star]

Sure ^w^

[remote star]

Night night :3

[remote star]

Ill try making progress today

[floral hemlock]

JPG 6 hours later:
I didn't do any progress.... 🤓

[remote star]

REAL

I always get sucked to blender realm and spend all my day there

[remote star]

Added 1 more chunck to 5-3

[remote star]

I found out ill need to work on this...

[remote star]

I like this

[frail estuary]

Bro turned on caps lock

[trail vapor]

it's literally just the japanese version of the game over text

which is also present in the us version for some reason

[frail estuary]

huh

[trail vapor]

nintendo moment

[remote star]

True

[remote star]

Jouner, what about adding some pile of coins on the map to give a depth?

Since in w2 i use them pretty much a lot

[trail vapor]

that just feels random imo

unless it's an nsmb2 kind of theme in a specific world

[remote star]

Those

And those star coin deco too

[trail vapor]

i mean you don't put clock objects on the worldmap, nor enemies (tho nsmbds, and sometimes wii, do put blocks on the worldmap for some reason)

[remote star]

True

[trail vapor]

they would fit world 1 more imo. and even then, i'm not even sure, because it'll probably have to be placed once or twice, and it would be important to make sure the texture isn't too large in filesize

[remote star]

@floral hemlock

[floral hemlock]

ugh, kinda?

you need to definitly fix the shading sadly

anyway play around just

[remote star]

Can i play arround on this one? Or u prefferme trying myself?

[floral hemlock]

whatever

im sending you so you could know how to do it

[remote star]

Oki

For the map ones, ill use the current ones but yellow

@remote star edit the coins for the worldmap!

Ill also add the sockets in the bottom scren for uncolected coins

[floral hemlock]

@floral hemlock think of a super ahh visual kei instagram post that you will be actually able to do and design few more clothing for dressmaker, oh and don't forget to think of outfits again lol

[tardy vessel]

Make the leaves fall

[trail vapor]

i don't like the fact that the outline gets thinner on the sides

[remote star]

Done

Now the in level one

Jouner will like that

[frail estuary]

Why are the star coin vertical 😭

[remote star]

Because its better like that

[frail estuary]

Better in what metric

[remote star]

I just like it and find it better

Its more pleasant

[frail estuary]

I'd argue the opposite 🤷‍♂️

[remote star]

Yea but i like it

Edit

[floral hemlock]

UPDATE W1

[remote star]

Ill do it after all the other maps, cuz adding nns material is saddic

[frail estuary]

You also gonna change the other star coin layouts to be consistent?

[remote star]

Wich other ones?

In the map theres only that

[frail estuary]

Like the in level ui

[remote star]

They are not consistent in the og game too

So nah

[frail estuary]

Not consistent in what way

[remote star]

Theyre slooped in the level

And linear in worldmap

[frail estuary]

They are sloped

Main direction is still the same tho

What way are they sloped again?

[remote star]

Like that /

[floral hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/liar-anakin-gif-21992662

[frail estuary]

I see

[remote star]

I PROMISSE 😭

After w5 you can be 100% sure that ill update w1, i give my word

[floral hemlock]

jpg change this pink ahh bg

it's ugly

ask people what you could improve in it too

everyone will probably agree that it could look way better

[floral hemlock]

omg golden coins

send me the sprites

i'll use the original palette

if you want obv

[remote star]

Theyre the smw ones actually

[floral hemlock]

send me 😈

[remote star]

Sure

@floral hemlock

[floral hemlock]

I SEE

@remote star

[remote star]

HOLY

I LOVE THIS

[floral hemlock]

Man i gotta make a rule in my #1383212947811336283 post

Regarding if you want it to be only for you hack or you want it make it public

So you want me to post it in #1383212947811336283 or no?

@remote star

[remote star]

Yup sure

[floral hemlock]

Alr

[remote star]

I really would like seeing other people using yoshi coins in their mod ngl

[trail vapor]

i honestly like it. tho i wish it wasn't the only available bg

[trail vapor]

please just make the star coin slot have the shape of Jouner's yoshi coin, instead of that weird ellipse

[floral hemlock]

that's why i don't like it

because im stuck with it

[remote star]

Ill use this coin

[frail estuary]

Was that actually the sprite that was being used in the mod

[trail vapor]

so you basically just don't like it

[floral hemlock]

no you won't

[floral hemlock]

yes

[trail vapor]

but it's literally incoherent with the other coin sprites

[remote star]

Rexy giving 2d sprite graphical bugs on worldmap 🔥

[trail vapor]

again... 😭

tho it seems to be really annoying for you at this point

[remote star]

Yep it is

The camera getting crazy too lmao 😭

[trail vapor]

mario with a heart to show a bit of compassion, and also good luck solving it

[remote star]

I noticed that everytime i replace a file, the error gets moved to somewhere else in the game it seens

[remote star]

Thx! :>

[trail vapor]

yw!

[trail vapor]

replacing them with nsmbe?

[remote star]

Yep

[trail vapor]

maybe try with EveryFileExplorer? i know nsmbe can cause overwrites and stuff like that

[remote star]

Graphic replaced yea, but it only happens with models and or sprites that have some conection with luigi or the player itself in general

[trail vapor]

i've heard it was fixed for 5.4 but will smith (or someone else?) once said it still happens i think

[remote star]

Ohh i see

[trail vapor]

could be due to the compression somehow. maybe the game doesn't decompress them properly, or maybe they're not compressed properly in the first place

[remote star]

William said that the rexy bugs are caused by a missing node

So ig it will need to have custom code to be fixed pretty sure

[trail vapor]

oh

[remote star]

What in real hardware is a crash, on desmume its the game turning crazy

[trail vapor]

isn't it an issue with the model itself?

[remote star]

Tbh it kinda tranquilized me cuz its less worse than a memory leak

[remote star]

Its with the rexy head cuz it dont have bones

And the game cant find them

[trail vapor]

i think you mean "reassured". i feel like tranquilized is more with darts for animals or something, tho i'm not sure

[trail vapor]

can't you add the bones to the model?

[remote star]

Yea thats what i meant, i just got confused cuz reassured in portuguese is "tranquilizado"

[trail vapor]

fair

[remote star]

Finished the worldmap hud work 🔥

[floral hemlock]

good

remove him now

[remote star]

Her*
And No 😭

Ill find my nsmbds rom here

And extract mario head

[floral hemlock]

IM GONNA MISGENDER THIS THING NOW

IT

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-meme-clean-bus-kick-gif-23812759

[remote star]

William asked me to do it before but i forgot, ill do it now since it prevent those bugs on mario too

Now mario head have cap again

[remote star]

WHY THE GAME IS CRASHING AGAIN WHEN I COLLECT BOOMERANG WITH REXY IT DIDN'T HAPPENED BEFOREE

Its only when the boomerang spawns with rexy

This was not happening before tho :<

[tardy vessel]

Boomerang power up?

[remote star]

Yep

[tardy vessel]

:O

In demo?

[remote star]

Yep in the demo its there

Same as the acorn one

[tardy vessel]

OMG OMG OMG

Hammer?

[remote star]

Nope but there will going to have bubble and shuriken

@elder crystal can u collect boomerang with luigi in your build? Cuz on mine i could before but now its crashing

I put make clean, lets see how it will be

[floral hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-caseoh-twitch-take-a-picture-picture-moment-in-history-gif-18128752694931999774

JPG FINALLY DOING A GOOD CHANGE?

[remote star]

On drastic it was already crashing too..

[trail vapor]

you're exaggerating...

[floral hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-yourebanned-gif-1226601772032564017

[remote star]

Just if i collect the boomerang with rexy tho, if i collect it with mario, then beat the level and switch to rex it dont crash

When will smith fix my source ill swap to melonds

[trail vapor]

i honestly find it annoying how you, and sometimes other people, sometimes act as if it was rare that JPG does a good change. i feel like there has been a lot of good changes from the base game. yes some decisions weren't the best, but they often either had a reason, or weren't executed well. there has been a lot of progress and stuff done in this hack that i really like

it's probably a useless rant because sometimes you just do these kind of jokes, but for some reason this time i felt this way, probably because the joke was different from the usual "JPG I HATE YOU, GIVE IT TO ME I'LL IMPROVE IT"

[remote star]

No...

[edgy heron]

I’ve wanted to say this before but this thread has had too many dramas so I only ended up saying it to ndy

[trail vapor]

what are the differences between the models? how is the powerup change handled? model swap? model swap from the same archive (like small and big mario heads)? palette/color shift (like with Illy's player models)? palette change (like the vanilla game)? maybe that could help solving the issue

[remote star]

Model swap from same archive

Acorn head to boomerang

[trail vapor]

so, part of the "nocap" archive?

are they set up the same way? try for example to swap the mario and luigi ones to see what happens

[remote star]

I did some tests like this yea, but it seens to only happen with luigi

[trail vapor]

weird

in that case idk if it's model-related

or at least not exclusively model-related. it could be a code issue related to the models, idk

[remote star]

Its probably something that is only happen to my source, since with william he can collect boomerang so its something related to my source wich is unoptimized and unupdated

[trail vapor]

well, not sure what happens then

[remote star]

Here i mean

now if i swap to rexy if i coollect the item with mario it crashes again....

i honestly dont know what is happening anymore

sometimes it works and i think its fixed but them it start happening allll again

[floral hemlock]

1. It's a joke
2. If JPG has a problem with that i will listen and stop.
3. I complained already before the cap being removed for some reason and it made me happy that jpg bbring it back
4. I'm a troll
5. I'm annoying person and i have said that way too many times

I also have alot more issues with ssmb and i will probably react the same meme way next time if jpg would've change it to the original state/improved, it's a joke and don't take me seriously lol, jpg does cool changes pretty often and i admire him for it then but there are way too many issues that i find because of my preferences, i have already typed it all in his server damn 😭

love u jpg

damn i love trolling!

[remote star]

actually i dont really mind this type of joke cuz its funny, the only ones that make me feel bad are the ban jokes or stuff like what was happening sometime before

[floral hemlock]

I would've proably not care if yall were starting a drama again and just do my own stuff and reply back later

[floral hemlock]

give me a second jpg

[remote star]

NOW IT DONT CRASH AGAIN!!!! ONLY IF I COLLECT THE ITEM BUT IF I JUST SWAP IT WORKS, HAHAHAHAHHA SO FUNNY NSMB SO FUNYYYYYYY IM LAUGHINT :|

[warm condor]

is that?:

[floral hemlock]

HE CROPPED OUT URUHA

I LOVE YOU NDY

https://tenor.com/view/the-gazette-ruki-kai-reita-uruha-gif-9487736554045283492

[tardy vessel]

OMG SAKURA HAS SPIN TWIRL

[remote star]

But the type of joke is diferent 😭
Even nowdays ztar does jokes kinda like jouner but they are funny too

[remote star]

Wtf is rexy doing lmfao

All the models are getting crazy if i play with rexy

And 2d graphics too

[trail vapor]

seeems like the same corruption problem again

[remote star]

Yea

[trail vapor]

the corruption effects are actually pretty cool, and actually remind me of corruptions in older games (specifically smb1 and pokemon gen 1), even if the effects are not exactly the same (they also remind me of some sm64 corruption videos)

tho yeah it is annoying when you wanna make things functional

[remote star]

TRUE

They remember me of those nsmbw corruption vídeos on yt

[trail vapor]

i guess

[remote star]

The hammer bro LMAO

[trail vapor]

what i mean is that, i like the fact that some ds games can have some actually cool corruptions, with stuff other than just models breaking (graphics corruptions for example), but also not just crashing right away. probably not as cool as 8-bit (and maybe 16-bit) games' corruptions, but still pretty cool nonetheless

[remote star]

Yea true

The graphic ones remember me of those smw glitches

[trail vapor]

me when the rotating platforms from 1-3 (or yoshi's island -3)

[remote star]

TRUEEEE

Mario shitting himself and changing colors, pretty interesting glitch

Even more because of the orange mario

But theres other colors too

[trail vapor]

yeah. i've heard he's nicknamed "halloween mario" in this buggy powerup state

[remote star]

Ohhhh

[trail vapor]

and if you fail, game crash with cool graphics corruption (which seems to be random/changes every time)

[remote star]

Once i got a glitched switch palace after i failed the glitch

In the crashed game

It had crimson red colors and a bucnh of galoomba graphic parts as the bg

I laughed a lot whrn this happened 😭

[trail vapor]

interesting

[trail vapor]

meanwhile me being scared as hell of game crashes when i was younger

[remote star]

I always got scared by game crashes when i was younger

[trail vapor]

me too (tho i kinda said that already)

[remote star]

The first image have a variation of the bug that instwad of the numbers being on the W its on the minimap rexy icon

[remote star]

@elder crystal btw remove "WorldCoins.s" from the source since its giving vram issures

Idk if its vram

But it glitches the w5 coin a bit

And ill not need it too cuz i changed the star coin to yoshi coins, and all of them are yellow

[elder crystal]

Done that

[remote star]

Oh good

[remote star]

Wich code hacks u removed from the source so i can remove here too

[remote star]

I noticed that 5-3 is the cursed level

I never place a tilr on it every 7 months and after i do i lost motivation on this level and want to work on another levell

[fickle sphinx]

whas the level like

[remote star]

Its a volcano like level on space with green lava (acid)

It have gay grass and Brown rocks

Ill show a pic rq

Inspired by galaxy ofc

Blackhole and stuff

[fickle sphinx]

is floaty physics n lava the only level gimmick stuff you have for it

[remote star]

Yea pretty much

It have rotatory fire

And lava bubbles too

But its not much a gimmic

I would add eeries but the current ones are cheep cheep and dont have much movimentation of what i could use it for

So ill wait for the #1400864345549701212

Ill make a new top bg for it too

[floral hemlock]

@remote star When you make a tileset, always make atleast 2-4 "grass"/top tiles for more variation alr?

It's too repettive just

[remote star]

Sure

Yea i need to do more of those variation tiles

[floral hemlock]

I typically do 3 but if needed more

[fickle sphinx]

sounds like carefully timed big precision jumps might be a good focus

[floral hemlock]

you can always mirror the tile in editor too which gives another set of variation. but that depends of the inner tile pattern mainly

[remote star]

True

[remote star]

For w4 tileset i did that

[floral hemlock]

Yeah nice then!! Remember that it just can't be very plane and boring

that's what it makes so great

[remote star]

On the first one u cant notice much, but on the desert its neat

For tilesets i really need to make a Temple one for w1 and final castle tileset

[floral hemlock]

As i look at it, i also recommend you drawing again grass for slopes too rather just rotate it etc

[remote star]

True

[floral hemlock]

man, i need to remake your desert tileset

[remote star]

I can smell peak

🔥

[floral hemlock]

i want to make an ice related tileset next tbh

rather remake something

[remote star]

If u make it ill use on special world

[floral hemlock]

oh nice then

if you remember rayman origins ice world, imagine my tileset like that

[remote star]

On special world ill make "honor mentions" to themes i didn't used or that are interesting

Such as snow, cloud, autumn

One of them was going to be beach but now w2 have a beach level so ill use a diferent theme

Maybe jungle

@floral hemlock ill let u choose the last theme

[floral hemlock]

ill see what i will do by then

[remote star]

Sure

[remote star]

If u want to change one of the themes too you can

[trail vapor]

the bg is already cursed, that's why the whole level also is

[trail vapor]

same for inner ground tiles imo

[remote star]

Real

I plan changing this bg soon

[trail vapor]

the desert (Jouner's desert) tileset has jagged edges/cuts in the inner ground pattern for some reason

[remote star]

That was a tilingn error

[trail vapor]

imo removing the w6-shaped mountains could work. or you could remove the other ones. at least remove one kind tho i think

[trail vapor]

oh ok

[remote star]

Ill keep the underground "lava" ish mountains

And remove the volcanos

[trail vapor]

okay then

so the "complicated black rocky structures" are the ones you wanna keep right?

[remote star]

Yep

[trail vapor]

nice then!

[remote star]

The volcanos dont fit much the w5 theme since its not really a volcano world, but a toxic planet, so debri rocks fit really a lot on it

[trail vapor]

just so you know, the original volcano walls bg had glow near the bottom. so i would suggest redoing that, but with green glow, if that's not already the case

[remote star]

For w2 lava levels btw, i should've imported this way earlier

[floral hemlock]

make the clouds lover

lower

somehow

😭

[trail vapor]

imo they look too green

[trail vapor]

kinda looks like a cataclysm happened
-# no this is neither a gd reference nor a miraculous reference

also imo the volcanoes should also have some sort of darkness effect

and if it's a sunset, it would be nice to make the upper part of the gradient purple-ish, rather than black/dark brown

[remote star]

Gotcha

Its actually a volcanic eruption

I cant play with boomerang rexy cuz its crashing again

[trail vapor]

oh well in that case it probably looks fine the way it already does

btw the new yoshi coin sprites are looking nice!

same for Rexy!

also i like the fact that the hack has been more "consistent" in the way decisions are taken lately

[remote star]

Thx!! ^w^

[trail vapor]

yw!! ^-^

[floral hemlock]

@remote star check if it's the correct one in original nsmbds

since there are 2 version of the same exact coin but in different screens i guess

wtf is with this acorn suit for rexy lmao

[remote star]

Yup it is the top screen one

[remote star]

Big head fr fr

[trail vapor]

are you being confused with the smaller variation? idk (tho even these aren't the same)

[floral hemlock]

@remote star This icon is smalelr with an updated colour palette, if you want it or not, but please atleast replace this palette with the one you use, i believe that my old icons are desaturated lol

[remote star]

No its because theres a ingame one for blue house

[trail vapor]

ohh

[floral hemlock]

don't tell me i replace the palette with wrong icons lmao

alr thankfully not

i think this icon doesnt have every colour jpg btw

[remote star]

Yea i couldn't manage to make it dont compress :<

[floral hemlock]

why is that???

it should've be normal

[remote star]

It lost 2 colors only tho

[trail vapor]

did you use nitropaint or nsmbe?

[remote star]

Np

[floral hemlock]

it has 5 colours then, that's bad jpg

every colour matters in pixel art work

[trail vapor]

then idk why

[trail vapor]

just a reminder that the ds uses a different color format, with red blue and green having 32 different values each, while the regular format uses 256 values each (tho i assume you already know that)

[floral hemlock]

I don't know what that means but sure lmao

ah this

[trail vapor]

there are 4 variations i think:

• small star coin bottom screen (part of the "complete" text)
• small star coin top screen (for which star coins have been collected in a level)
• large star coins (the ones you can spend on the worldmap, also the same sprite used for the "all spent" text)
• in-level bottom screen star coins

• the blue toad house variation that JPG talked about

[floral hemlock]

yeah

blue toad i think

those were slightly more red-ish

[trail vapor]

oh ok

[edgy heron]

jpeg the grass isn’t rainbow you lied

[remote star]

LMAO

Gray grass*

[floral hemlock]

gay grass

[remote star]

Didn't made much stuff today

[floral hemlock]

guys, i need ideas for JPG's hack icon

any suggestions???

no i wont do Rexy, mainly due to colour limit

and she's hard to draw 💔

[warm condor]

shuriken

[floral hemlock]

I feel like it's boring...

[fickle sphinx]

yiu could do an amimated icon

[floral hemlock]

animated icon?

[hasty crane]

DSi can display animated icons

[floral hemlock]

Damn, i will keep in mind then

i'll see first what other people will suggest me then

[obsidian basin]

A sakura leaf

Acorn

Cuz jpg inhales acorns

[cyan stirrup]

The green star

[remote star]

Fair

[remote star]

Yea this

[remote star]

Shuriken mario head?

We dont have the full design tho :<

We could get inspired by ndymario concept, but mario will use the red and Black outfit from acorn due to only having 4 outfit options on ssmb engine at least

[floral hemlock]

wait, could you find that ndy's sketch?

[floral hemlock]

@remote star

[remote star]

Heya

[remote star]

Lemme see eere

Here

Here

[floral hemlock]

@remote star if you willing to make the skirt look good im modeling this

[floral hemlock]

I'm very tired of this map and irritates me for no reason. I don't know what i need to do and want to do even if i completaly know what to do

[remote star]

Tbh imo now all u should do is round the edges, polish it and vertex it, then it will be done

Theres no more need to details and such

Since its pretty decorated and such

Or if u want i can add the final details since im better in blender than i was before

[floral hemlock]

You don't understand art

https://tenor.com/view/malcolm-in-the-middle-lights-dim-hank-serious-talk-gif-27712216

[remote star]

😔

[floral hemlock]

yes i know that you're better than me, i can do it myself dw

[remote star]

Nah im not better than u in blender

Definitelly not

Youre the blender goat bro 😭

Anyways flower jouner made 🔥

[edgy heron]

i cant see the word ''flower'' and the name ''jouner'' together in one sentence without consequences

[floral hemlock]

Please do not make those eyes...

There are way better options

[edgy heron]

huh

[trail vapor]

the outer transparent tiles feel a bit weird to me

[floral hemlock]

😭

[edgy heron]

wait i just realized that it was jpeg who posted that

[trail vapor]

i really like the eyes, they're very cute

tho they're not centered...

[remote star]

Wich ones u suggest? Cuz yea those are overused

Mainly in ssmb

[fickle sphinx]

sorta reminds me of that one early flower design from sonic cd come to think of it

buble

[trail vapor]

oh btw, by "outer" i mean the ones outside the bubble. the ones inside the bubble/ellipse are fine i think

[floral hemlock]

I back then only throught about those 3

1. normal
2. none
3. yours but white and clean

i still hate that 3 because it's off set by one pixel lmao but that's the problem with the design

since it blends with other parts

i have one more idea

[shy wraith]

1 and 3 look cool, 2 looks off for some reason

[floral hemlock]

@remote star

[floral hemlock]

ITS A FUCKING BUBBLE, WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU FIND IT OFF

https://tenor.com/view/bubble-buddy-spongebob-gif-16771086986415179360

love u tomato, remember that

[shy wraith]

idk, no eyes just looks off in the mario universe

[shy wraith]

I wouldn't mind if this was the design

[floral hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-yourebanned-gif-1226601772032564017

[floral hemlock]

I AGREE

[trail vapor]

yea i don't really like the pixel offset. tho i like the shape

[remote star]

1 looks neat!!

[trail vapor]

i thought you wanted the cute eyes tho

(i mean they're both cute but i mean the cute closed eyes)

[remote star]

I got jumpscared

[remote star]

I asked jouner for the path layout of w2, now im making the map, i already finished the w2.cpp editing for the positions, now ill do path anims

For the path anims not sure if ill wait for the full w2

MOVING THE TOAD HOUSE IS ASS

I hate moving the toad house

Thankfully i figured out

@floral hemlock new node positions

Ill do the path anims maybe today idk

[remote star]

Finished

[sweet pier]

Looks good

I will download your rom hack

[remote star]

Blender is shitting on me and is not letting me animate the nsbta 😭

[remote star]

Thx!! :>

[night tapir]

Gangsta bubble flower

[remote star]

FINISHED W1111

YEEYEEYEYEY

@floral hemlock i finished it babe :3

[sweet pier]

This is the worst loading time that i have seen, why is macOS so shitty, it's just garbage

I mean

3 HOURS

WHY MY PARENTS DIDN'T BUY ME WINDOWS

[floral hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-23544425

[warm condor]

honestly, i think that MacOS is better than Windows

[remote star]

Yea i agree ngl, new w1 is WAY better

I feel bad for dont updating before 😭

[trail vapor]

how exactly is it way better?

[remote star]

It fixes some texture and models error, it have less poluted vtx colors, and other smaller fixes that make it more professional

It have some vertex color shadows too

[trail vapor]

oh ok

[remote star]

It was also easier to update than i thought it was going to be

Ill wait for w2, so i can make a video showcasing the updated jouner w1, and new w2

Ill make new icons for w2 too

So its better somehow

The quality of the mod's models and graphics is improving thx to jouner ngl

-# (Thx a lot for this! :3)

[floral hemlock]

IM RECORDING THIS THING

IM NOT TRUSTING YOU

[floral hemlock]

if you send me an original icon i coulds how you my idea

[remote star]

Sure

[remote star]

Sure, my w2 icon is kinda original so ig its fair

[floral hemlock]

can someone help me with this area?

idk what to do here

and i find the bridge ugly

[remote star]

I have a idea

Since its a airship level

Why dont u place like

A w8 like bridge

With some volcanos arround

[floral hemlock]

what

[remote star]

Ill draw

[floral hemlock]

show the bridge

[trail vapor]

uhh???

that would feel out of place

idk if the animations are already made, but if they aren't, i would suggest placing a bunch of rocks and mario jumping from one to another

[floral hemlock]

i throught about that already, but im scared that jpg wont make it look good

[obsidian basin]

HA

[remote star]

Something like that

[obsidian basin]

ahh

[remote star]

With more details ofc

Ill add some more details

Dont take this as final

@floral hemlock

[hasty crane]

Nice final version JPG

[floral hemlock]

@remote star model me that hoever you want, and i will add it

i aint modelling that, too tired for this shit

[remote star]

LMAO
Nah not the final yet

[remote star]

Sure

Ill Just take w8 bridge cuz its good

[floral hemlock]

sure...

[remote star]

This one

[floral hemlock]

alr...

[remote star]

Actually ill model it

I just dont have textures :<

[trail vapor]

why does it have the newerds nodes?

[queen pecan]

Linux users in their mind:

[trail vapor]

extract them with nitropaint

[remote star]

Its nsmb deluxe

[remote star]

Ohh

True

[trail vapor]

my hack? 😭

[sweet pier]

Fu** apple

I just wanted to download some rom hacks

[queen pecan]

yay

[queen pecan]

I totally agree

[sweet pier]

Yay

[tardy vessel]

The DEMO of Sakura SMB is 20x that of NSMBDS

A and it's the DEMO 😭

[queen pecan]

Jpg issue

[remote star]

Yup

[floral hemlock]

leave

[sweet pier]

Why

[crimson dome]

Reason number 387 of why SSEQ's are better than NWAV

[warm condor]

indeed

[trail vapor]

this implies that there are 386 more important or more obvious reasons

[warm condor]

reason number 386: SSEQs sound more vanilla

maybe

[trail vapor]

yeah i think too

[remote star]

Guys, i acidentally deleted the Letter A from ssmb bottom screen graphics, making so X-A levels now be X- levels, and its extremelly sad cuz it makes me need to scrap all the X-A levels, but thankfully i made a Quick solution!! When you click a pallete + a bitmap in nsmbe, usually it opens a graphic editor, and from there i decided to add the A again!!
-# btw its not a joke, ofc i exaggerated a bit on the text to make it dramatic, but i acidentally deleted the A letter, and had to put it again lmfao

[trail vapor]

after w -1, we get w2-

[remote star]

@floral hemlock can i finish this level? Im kinda demotivated for 5-3 but i really wanted to make a level, would u mind if i finish 2-A?

If u want, tell me ur ideas for it

[remote star]

TRUE

[floral hemlock]

jpg, I don't have time and motivation rn 💔

[remote star]

No i mean if i can finish it instead of u

Pls let me 🥺

I promisse dont making it bad

[crimson dome]

JPG

It's your hack

I don't think you need to ask for permission to finish a level, lmao

[fickle sphinx]

jpeg im banning you from working on your hack for 1 month

[remote star]

😔

[crimson dome]

You can't do that, he will get a panick attack because he hasn't done anything for his hack in two days, you're evil Mr. Dee Em

[frozen cove]

Hey! Don’t Ban JPG64! He’s The Creator!

[crimson dome]

It's a joke, we're not being serious

[remote star]

LMAO

[elder crystal]

Agreed! Jpg is The Creator!

[remote star]

I wanted to add platform spawner and flying koopas, but theyre at the same overlay as flagpole.. :<

[fickle sphinx]

couldnt you put the flag in a subarwa

area

[trail vapor]

flying koopas? do you mean paratroopas?

[remote star]

Yup

[floral hemlock]

WHAT, DO NOT BAN JPG, I REPEAT

DO NOT BAN JPG

[trail vapor]

they're not in overlays tho

(the platforms are tho)

[remote star]

Yep

@floral hemlock

Ill not add that cave area from the original level, it was kinda meh

[floral hemlock]

WHY

DUDE

YOU HAVE FUCKING LAVA NEXT ON THE WM

ADD IT NOW

OR BAN

PUNISHMENT

WHATEVER

[remote star]

BUT AHDHABDBAHS

[floral hemlock]

NO JPG, ADD IT BACK

[remote star]

If i add lava in the level?

[floral hemlock]

I CAN TRY TO MAKE IT MYSELF TOO BUT OTHERWISE DO NOT REMOVE IT

[floral hemlock]

yeah add it

[remote star]

Ok ill make ti

[trail vapor]

the subarea was kinda cool but not that greatly executed imo

[floral hemlock]

just be sure it doesnt break anything at the first part

[trail vapor]

like it's kinda just there for being there

[remote star]

Ill make the area and add the platform idea

[floral hemlock]

Remember that cave level from w4 desert part? be inspired by this

i loved this level

[remote star]

Yea

Ill do it

[trail vapor]

what i would suggest is bringing it back, extending it a little bit, and maybe add one kind of element (eg. podoboos). and since it would only be a small portion of the level, it feels a bit out of place, so i would probably suggest adding some extra underground bonus room with lava in it

[remote star]

Podobod in ssmb are green and purple :c

But i can add other stuff

Like fire bros

[trail vapor]

oh crap, forgot

[trail vapor]

maybe give them their own level

[remote star]

They have on w5

[trail vapor]

then i guess in a bonus area or something

it's just that podoboos feel like the "usual" enemy but for lava levels and castles, similarly to how goombas and koopas feel like the common "usual" enemies

so that's why i had suggested this specifically

[remote star]

Gotcha

@floral hemlock

Opnions?

[floral hemlock]

jpg, just continue making it and show more

try maybe inspiring by 1-2 from original game?

i never seen in your hack anything with groundpounding

i mean, breaking bricks etc

that would've been fun

[remote star]

Ohhh true

[remote star]

I was thinking of mixing the idea of like, groundpounding a block, but be fast enough to cancel the ground pound and collect the star coin without activating the flip block and dying

Would be a interesting concept

[sweet owl]

But, Nwav means I can do talking flowers

[remote star]

I want talking flower