Sakura SMB DS

[neon kernel]

why is 1-c hell

[remote star]

Its not hell

Just a crimson forest

[floral hemlock]

from now on it's hell

[remote star]

Imported

Ssmb will be the mod with the most changed UI elements lol

[fair geode]

A suggestion i have is to make him keep walking like in smw

[trail vapor]

this looks wrong. did you just replace the flagpole model and are you still waiting for the code hack?

[remote star]

Yup

[trail vapor]

just... why 😭

[remote star]

Because will use the models for the flagpole on the actor ndy is making

So i already inserted the files over the flagpole in the meantime

New world icons by SD HackRoms

[trail vapor]

pretty cool i guess

kinda hard to see what's on them sometimes tho

[worthy fern]

They look very pixelated

[remote star]

Theyre small in game

So they look alright

[edgy heron]

I think they should be a bit less downscaled and just take a 32x32 portion of the image rather than downscale the whole image 32x32

[worthy fern]

I think that would improve it.

[crimson dome]

I don't even know why you're changing them in the first place, the previous icons were fine

[remote star]

Originality

[crimson dome]

The previous ones were more original and better

[remote star]

Theyre so similar to nsmb2 and newer ds

Literally the same

[crimson dome]

Making custom worldmap icons looks much better than taking an image of a level and downscaling it

[trail vapor]

then maybe you could go back to the nsmb-styled ones?

[crimson dome]

And?

[remote star]

Its not a level

[edgy heron]

kinda true tho

I think his idea is kind of like yoshi’s island icons

[trail vapor]

it was a screenshot of a level??

[crimson dome]

||I don't even know why I am bothering if JPG won't listen /j||

[edgy heron]

except those are pixel arts rather than downscaled images

[crimson dome]

Oh

[trail vapor]

oh well then

[crimson dome]

I still agree with what Frosty said, you should take a portion of the image rather than just downscaling it

Downscaling images doesn't always look good

[trail vapor]

still overly detailed for something this small

[trail vapor]

actually, you doing this was my inspiration for doing it in TRQ

[remote star]

Ill try making in the style of nsmb

Wrong message replied 😭

[remote star]

Yea

[edgy heron]

I’d say if you go this path then downscale it by either half or 25%, and then take a 32x32 part of it

the image looks like 256x256 I think

[remote star]

Its 512x512

[floral hemlock]

idk, this vibe is kinda cool 😭🙏

[remote star]

If i would do in nsmb style, i would add a house and a blossom here, but how i draw it to look good 😭

[trail vapor]

guess you could simplify into simpler shapes first

for example, some sort of cube for the house, then adding details

for the blossom tree, i guess you could just add/draw a tree, like you did in the past

[trail vapor]

oh nice!!

[remote star]

Thx!! ^w^

[floral hemlock]

bring back ds styled worldmap icons

they are the best

[remote star]

(Yes, i made it from w7 icon)

[trail vapor]

wow cool!

[trail vapor]

what world is this?

oh special world

[trail vapor]

i'd suggest making the black part of the black hole wider, and to make the meteors more beige. making one of them dark gray and adding a volcano on top could be nice too

[floral hemlock]

I would make the rocks different colour

maybe little bit brownish?

[remote star]

Oh fr

1 next

[trail vapor]

wooo nice!!!

[trail vapor]

i'd suggest to make the transition a bit smoother for this one

(yes even if you already made the slight dithering thingy)

[remote star]

Yea ill make it

[trail vapor]

okay

[trail vapor]

better

[remote star]

Yea

[floral hemlock]

I feel like the colours for the sand part could've been better

especially the rocks

[floral hemlock]

those are very beatiful

the only thing I would improve is the sakura tree

[remote star]

The New icons in game

[floral hemlock]

sakura tree blends with the bg

it shouldn't be like that

[remote star]

Ill change that bg anyways

[floral hemlock]

epic

tho i would still change the colour, just a bigger contrast

either way, beatiful

[remote star]

Just what ill show for now

[trail vapor]

yoooo cool!!

i'd suggest adding back the "Wx" text thingies tho

[remote star]

Oh fr ill do

[remote star]

Yall will love what i cooked

(I think)

[trail vapor]

i meant the separate graphic actually

[trail vapor]

ehh doesn't look that great imo

i'm pretty sure you can make something more complex or smth

[remote star]

I want to make it have a nsmbds feel

But customized

[trail vapor]

idk it just looks kinda off imo

[remote star]

I see, ill try to improve it

Im strugling with ideas for 4-B and 5-3 :c

For 1-ship i dont need ideas to finish it but im More anxious (in a good way) to finish 5-3 and 4-B

[cyan stirrup]

Make an underground level revolving around cannon pipes maybe?

That would be cool

[remote star]

Those levels are the sunset and ruins levels

But i struggle with level design

[pseudo ravine]

I saw a Shuriken Bro in my dream

In my dream, those enemies were found unused in the files of multiple 2D games

[cyan stirrup]

In my nightmares Jpg is chasing me asking for code hacks

[remote star]

Interesting actually

[remote star]

LMAO

[pseudo ravine]

The explanation and thought process behind those enemies was "at some point we always needed an enemy that tossed straight horizontal projectiles, but there was always another enemy filling that niche such as Chargin' Chucks that toss baseballs, Huckit Crabs and Skedaddlers which kept delaying the introduction of Shuriken Bro"

[remote star]

Ngl shuriken bros and shuriken acorn are good powerups and enemies because of that

It throws stuff forward

[cyan stirrup]

Now I want to make a Sakura Smb ArtBook

Or dictionary

Or Enciclopedia

[cyan stirrup]

I'm gonna do it, The SAKURA SMB ART BOOK

[sweet owl]

Don’t you always say “nsmbds looks bad so I want it to be like wii/u/2” though

[remote star]

Nsmbds tilesets looks bad

But bgs and graphics dont

And the og nsmbds tilesets that look bad

The style dont

If i knew drawing like you/journer/frosty i would do it in the style

I dont like the way nintendo did the tilesets in nsmbds

The way they did it in the beta screenshots was sooo better

Tho i like some tilesets in nsmbds

Like the castle

Mountain/volcano

[neon kernel]

[remote star]

Beach 🤤

[neon kernel]

volcano is just mountain recolored

[remote star]

-# i love the beach tileset

[neon kernel]

i love the beach tileset to

[remote star]

Thats why i put in the same

[remote star]

WHAT

I SAW IT

💀

[neon kernel]

jpg the skull trend died a year ago

[remote star]

The forest tileset too

[remote star]

Who said i use it as a trend 💀

[neon kernel]

🥀 is the new meta

[remote star]

Nah i preffer to use the 😭 or 💀 to say like "wtf" or "why"

[neon kernel]

🥀

[remote star]

Ew

Looks like the mario sunshine paint bush

But its dead

[neon kernel]

🥀 is a pinned emoji in my keyboard

[remote star]

Or broken

Returning to topic, i like some nsmbds tilesets

I dont like how nintendo did it in some tilesets

[crimson dome]

Yes and no, the volcano, mountain, and dark world tilesets look very similar but they have slightly small differences on the way they're drawn, even when it doesn't seem like it

[remote star]

I learned smth: dont place custom enemies with big textures in the same área as bowser jr

But i was going to remove Jr from that specific level anyways so....

[remote star]

Guess how i fixed it?

Exactly, fixing

[floral hemlock]

[edgy heron]

maybe try making 4-b a sort of oasis/sunset sky/desert underground (ruins?) 🤔
could have like uhh the rising/lowering sand piles

reply miss 💔

[remote star]

Thats the idea for 4-6

[trail vapor]

uhh why did you suggest like 5 level theme ideas at once as if it was the same one 😭

(the way you phrased it sounded like you were trying to mix all ideas at once for the same thing)

[edgy heron]

oh mb 😭

[floral hemlock]

Tbh im really happy that you did this jpg

FInally something from DS and it looks very good

[remote star]

No but seriously, i fixed it by changing rex (3d enemie that will cause vram bug since bowser jr have a big texture)

[floral hemlock]

oh, did i make rex too big or something?

[remote star]

Ngl i wanted more ds styled tilesets in my hack but i just dont can draw it 😭

[remote star]

Nah Jr texture is giant

Any enemy i put there would glitch

(Tested with a bunch of diferent enemies)

Jr and bowser wanst meant to be with any 3d enemy

Any boss in general except the fish and tank ones

[floral hemlock]

Please, watch pixel art tutorials about tilesets, watch games like Stardew, Graveyaard keeper or even minecraft 😭 and understand how it;s done etc

and draw

You will defiinitly learn like that

[remote star]

Yea ill do it

The ones u send me actually helped me a lot with pixel art

I even did those map icons

But idk if im ready for tilesets so ill search more

[floral hemlock]

You want quick tutorial?

-# yes you want

[remote star]

Sure

[floral hemlock]

make a 16x16 square with the main colour of the ground/whatever

[remote star]

Lemme open discord with ibis paint

Done

[remote star]

Done that too

[floral hemlock]

draw rectangle on top with the colour of the main thing you want, here im drawing grass tile

[remote star]

Sure

Done

[remote star]

LMAO

[floral hemlock]

makes shape

[still roost]

-# i accidently pinged

[remote star]

Done

[floral hemlock]

-# you can ping me 200 times and i won't be mad

[floral hemlock]

Alr, now important part

[floral hemlock]

epic, colour's could've been bit better but yeah

[remote star]

Gave it a "forest" shape (w4)

[neon kernel]

hypertasking is crazy

just lock in 🥀

[remote star]

Whats that 😭

[neon kernel]

this

2 apps at once

[remote star]

O

[edgy heron]

isnt it multitasking tho 😭

[neon kernel]

wrong reply 🥀

[neon kernel]

yes

[floral hemlock]

Now SHADING

It's iimportant

and you need to understand how Nintendo did their shading

And it very depends on the style/theme of the tileset too

[remote star]

Gotcha

I do it after finishing ill show

[floral hemlock]

Finishing part:
Just fucking take that AA brush and set the opacity to ok. 30 - 150 and just go with the "outlines" (edges, shadows etc)

and you have now DS styled tile

now make 12 of them

here if somebody wants

unblurred too

Listen yall that don't know how to choose correct palette, the best thing to learn/get knowledge of is colour theory

Yall can find alot of videos about that topic or just google it lol

[floral hemlock]

Also, that rectangle is important

why?

because you need this to not make tiles that aren't connecting with each other

It happened me alot that i did asymetrical (i hate that word) grass or whatever and had to redo it

The same goes for 3D model, make a rectangle/ cylinder and make it the size you want

@remote star understood my friend? B)

[trail vapor]

most difficult part imo

we still managed to get it right for the w4 tileset tho

(i think)

[floral hemlock]

For me it's easiest 😭

[trail vapor]

step 1 and 2 are a lot simpler and straightforward

[floral hemlock]

I have problems to make a good shape more than a doing a shading part 😭 😭

[trail vapor]

wth is the aa brush

oh anti aliasing

[floral hemlock]

Antialiasing

[trail vapor]

now i'm wondering if i shouldn't ds-ify all tilesets... nah too much work

[floral hemlock]

ds-ify

[trail vapor]

it's too much work 😭

[floral hemlock]

peak takes time 😔

[trail vapor]

let's continue in the TRQ thread so we don't pollute jpg64's thread

[remote star]

@floral hemlock

[trail vapor]

pretty cool!

[remote star]

Thx!! ^^

[trail vapor]

tho i feel like there's something a bit off, probably about the shading

[remote star]

Yea i need to make it better

[trail vapor]

try to change the hue as well whenever you change the lightness/darkness

for example making the green slightly more yellow-ish when lighter, and slightly more blue-ish when darker

kinda same for the dirt

[remote star]

Gotcha

Yea ill try doing this

[fickle sphinx]

what if you removed or repositioned the highlight at the top

[floral hemlock]

Hm, i like it

to the lightest colour got be more yellow? or green

also i like to do the dark colour on top

Nintendo did that too

It give the grass more rounded shape? lol

[floral hemlock]

@remote star

[remote star]

OOOOOOOOMGGG ill try doing that

[floral hemlock]

Don't look at the inner tiles, it's shit lol, about your grass, it's bit messy and should be more blurry

and better contrast please

with the darker colours

here, this is a screenshot of somekind of U mod that i have for a future references, try to get inspired by that

Especially with the colours

Remember one thing about NSMB DS style tilesets

They are COLOURFUL, VIBRANT, "LIVELY"

Literally a piece of cake

Best idea for a tileset pattern : Look at the pics of somekind of birthday cake lmao

and this will fit very well

why?

idk, nsmb ds tilesets look like a cake just lmao

[remote star]

I see

Also worldmap icons final

New w3 tower aspects

[floral hemlock]

Jr?

[remote star]

Yea

[edgy heron]

honestly kinda same lmaoo

the shading i can just work easily with
its the shape that i always get stuck on

[neon kernel]

change the boss back to lakithunder

you use junior too much

[remote star]

Nah

[neon kernel]

laki thunder is a way better boss

jr is too easy

considering its over halfway through the game

[remote star]

Vram:

[neon kernel]

and you know laki can work

[remote star]

But nah its not why

Lakitunder was crashing

[neon kernel]

i told you to change it to 7-castles area

[remote star]

And ssmb will have a hard final boss anyway

[neon kernel]

junior with a shell

?

[remote star]

It will be still be on 3-Tower 💀

The level is just that level because of the world + level icon

[neon kernel]

you can set w3 towers spawn area to 7castle

and itll be fixed

[remote star]

If i change w1-castle to w1-7 the level will be 1-7

[remote star]

It cant, it would be still on w3

[neon kernel]

no?

[remote star]

Its not the area that matter lol

[neon kernel]

either way

[edgy heron]

good thing i dont have towers so i get to use jr only once (and potentially twice)

[remote star]

Its the world icon + level icon

[neon kernel]

lakithunder was working perfectly fine

[remote star]

It was crashing

[neon kernel]

if i open ssmbe right now

and change the area

[floral hemlock]

Off topic but is it possible to have vertical camera in jr bossfight?

[wheat island]

Jouner

Yes, it probably is.

[neon kernel]

[remote star]

It will not work lol

[neon kernel]

im gonna do it.

[remote star]

As i said

[edgy heron]

could be doable
the only thing i emessed with bowser jr (or a boss in general) that seemed new was use connected pipes

[neon kernel]

did you import the particle

[remote star]

The version you lakitunder work lol

I use a code hack to fix it

[floral hemlock]

Hmm, i see, just asking since i was thinking about it yesterday and was curious now

[remote star]

Nah, bowser in a clown car

[neon kernel]

what crashing?

@remote star

perfectly fine

[remote star]

.

[neon kernel]

so why not revert

instead of using the same boss from w2 and w3 and w4 and w5 atm

[remote star]

Im not masochist

[neon kernel]

jpg its 5 minutes 😭 (not even)

its not like ur adding 10 worlds

[remote star]

Bro ill need to import all the new maps

New models

[neon kernel]

?

[remote star]

Code hacks

Levels

[neon kernel]

oh yea i havent updated my build

[remote star]

Im not reverting to a old version 😭

[neon kernel]

im still using the one from pre demo

the one with LUIGI

[remote star]

It didn't had him lol

[neon kernel]

it was a model swap

also update the dev build

i wanna see if itll work

if i try sm

[remote star]

Also iirc it only crashes on drastix

[neon kernel]

thats why?

you changed the boss because of drastic?

[remote star]

Ill do after ndy finishing the code for goal tape

[neon kernel]

ok

[remote star]

And because only this world had a different boss

[neon kernel]

that emulator is so unreliable 🙏

[remote star]

Its the closest to nds

[neon kernel]

melon ds

ive used drastic the slowdown and poor graphics is insane

[remote star]

Drasrix is more achrate

[remote star]

Just disable the linear filter

[neon kernel]

but the most accurate emulator to test

[remote star]

Drastic is the most acurate one

[remote star]

Not a emulator 😭

[neon kernel]

its more accurate

[remote star]

But its not a emulator

[neon kernel]

still stands

[remote star]

Nope

Its the actuall system

[neon kernel]

ssmb is still unusable on ds? i tried and it didnt work

[remote star]

Yup

[neon kernel]

then accuracy doesnt matter

because accuracy would mean it wouldnt boot

[remote star]

No lol

Its the most acurator

But its not the system

[neon kernel]

what would will say

nvm i found a better emulator

dolphin

[remote star]

He's online
if u sees this, what u would say?

[remote star]

Dolphin is the best for ds fr fr

[neon kernel]

@elder crystal what is the most accurate ds emulator for testing

[remote star]

Bro why ping him 😭

[neon kernel]

we need to know

[elder crystal]

melon

I use desmume though cause of its code debugging stuff

[neon kernel]

drastic?

jpg tried to say that drastic the most accurate

[remote star]

On android it is

Even more than melon ds for android

[remote star]

Wait its possible to reverse engenering with desmume?

Mosquito why that checkmark u dont know about coding u cant answer that 😭

I asked him because he know it

[neon kernel]

[elder crystal]

not exactly

[neon kernel]

but is it better than drastic on android for accuracy

[crimson dome]

It's not, lol, it can run DS games perfectly on low end devices, but it's not completely accurate to DS emulation, otherwise your hack wouldn't even run on DraStic

[elder crystal]

but you can see what's going on with the ram viewer, which can be helpful for finding stuff I suppose

[remote star]

Oooo

[edgy heron]

what i DESPISE about desmume is that it makes translucent pixels more darker the more transparent they are, while still making it transparent 💢

[neon kernel]

so use the filter

[edgy heron]

how would u find what u need in there 😭

[neon kernel]

hopes and dreams /j

[remote star]

Probably by arm

Arm assembly

[elder crystal]

trial and error

banging your head against a wall

some people do it 🤷‍♂️

i've done it for an snes game

[remote star]

@elder crystal doenst on desmume also have a tab that have some kind of assembly like thing?

With r0 r1 or smth like that and some numbers like 0123456789

Idk exactly how it is

[elder crystal]

yeah it does have a dissassembler too, which can be useful

[remote star]

Oooo thats cool actually

[elder crystal]

so you can see what you could see in ghidra, except in small chunks and only in assembly

[remote star]

Gotcha

So its like a ghidra super lite version on desmume

[edgy heron]

mini dragon

[crimson dome]

Late reply, but there's a minor tiling error here, there should be a tile that connects with both walls

[remote star]

OPS

Thanks for pointing out that

[edgy heron]

the way everything is placed in this screenshot makes me think its an auto scroller 😭

[glossy sequoia]

No way. My tileset

[remote star]

Its beautiful ngl

[glossy sequoia]

It was inspired by this minigame

[trail vapor]

i guess it's better now. tho WHY IS THE BG STRETCHED 😭

[trail vapor]

honestly i think another background/background color would probably fit better with the pipes (or change the color of some pipes i guess)

also why is "3" a different color than "W" and "-"??

[trail vapor]

here i'd suggest making the gray metallic tiles darker, to show that they're background tiles. i'd also suggest adding a bit of variation if possible

[floral hemlock]

Oh I have it saved in my references folder 😭😭😭

I love mp graphics

[remote star]

On purpose, the numbers have a more harsh pink color and the symbols a lighter pink color

[floral hemlock]

I feel like you could choose a bit better colours for it but yeah, i like the idea

-# tho i do not like generally the whole bottom screen and never did, but that doesn't mean i have to tell you that you should change it or something 😭

[remote star]

Now im happy with it

[remote star]

@floral hemlock sorry for the ping, here, im making it and its looking good

[edgy heron]

love how it looks 3d even tho it has no extra tiles

[edgy heron]

also, when making the shadows below the top, i recommend using a very dark shade of the top color (or something that is close to it)

that way it feels like it blends in and the transition isnt too rough

ofc tho exceptions are if the ground's color is darker than the color that would fit lol

[edgy heron]

make the shadow on the top more thick imo

but thats still goodies

[remote star]

Gotcha

[crimson dome]

Bro said he can't draw good tilesets and he was able to draw better shit than I would ever do

[edgy heron]

oo that looks much cleaner good job 🔥

[remote star]

Now ill remake all my tilesets ngl

Ofc ill still use backported graphics

Like jyotyu, pipes, some stuff in tilesets and some graphics

But ill try using nsmb style in the mod

[remote star]

LMAO 😭

But i only did that because jouner teached in a small tutorial he did on how to make nsmb style

[edgy heron]

now ztardust get to following it 🫵

[remote star]

Did it but i lost motivation to do nsmb styled tilesets, since it will be too hard and exausting to port everything to the nds 😭

[edgy heron]

fair enough lol

u still did great on this tho

[remote star]

Thx!! ^^

[remote star]

Guys would yall preffer change 2-Train to a fortress so i dont need to animate the wheels or yall want to wait until i can animate it smh?

[floral hemlock]

nice to see you 💪

[remote star]

I think ill keep it as bullet train, but remake the tileset

So i can use actors for weels

Ill copy borrow this idea
https://youtu.be/eEWedac5Xmg?si=qoVlBJpiwTEf1Al_

But in nsmb style, ofc

[remote star]

Already did half the tileset lmao

[trail vapor]

another one? 😭

[remote star]

Im afraid of doing the locomotive cuz jjsjdhsvdgags

Not because it couldn't fit, it can, its small, but it seens hard

[remote star]

I need to draw this now 😭

[floral hemlock]

@remote star You need to send me evert SMW hack that has very cool themes

Devil

[remote star]

Super mario piranha island 1 (2 only videos)
Vldc hacks
Super luigi land
New super mario world 1 and 2
Smw a mario adventure 1, 2 and 3

Those are the ones with the best themes

-# Jouner u could try doing the locomotive for me? Im afraid of making it and it look ugly 😭

[floral hemlock]

oh, im too tired and have school

and i istill have your aiirship tileset

and i need to finish few things for nsmbba still

maybe i'll try this week

Also, why not use your old one?

just recolor it

[floral hemlock]

Tbh, do your own version, and when i will have time i will edit iit

[remote star]

Ill do

[floral hemlock]

but with one condition, you need to make this tileset more "original"? Just add here/change from yourself and i will definitly do it

[remote star]

Im also saving everything in Layers so its easier to make

[remote star]

This train is the same as sm3dw starbill express but in smw (not banzai express)

[floral hemlock]

im doing layers typically like that
Top layer : Top (Grass, shape of the top generally), other things
Mid layer: shading for inner tiles
Bot layer: inner tiles

[trail vapor]

what you've drawn looks good!!

[floral hemlock]

oh nice

still make it more original (just add few decorations idk)

[trail vapor]

i'd suggest to add some shadows to add a bit of depth tho

[floral hemlock]

exatly

this already makes a difference

[glossy sequoia]

No way, DS style looks so much better 🙏🏼

[remote star]

-# u can try adding it when going to edit the tileset because when i tried it looked bad 😭

[trail vapor]

is the banzai bill face the one from nsmbds?

(seems like yes to me but i feel like the shape of the locomotive is a bit more round(?))

[remote star]

I used the bullet bill and edited it

[trail vapor]

okay

[remote star]

Yo thanks!! Ngl seeing that people liked the tileset makes me want to do the other ones in the ds style too, it would be more original and good too

Talking about nds style, updates

[trail vapor]

the bullet bill face (both facial features and sphere shape) look a bit too flat imo

it has a sorta-round shape but it doesn't feel like a sphere

i feel like the yellow metallic part below is also one of the causes of it

[edgy heron]

if you add shading to the bullet bill's face it would look less flat

[remote star]

Idk how to do it 😭

[edgy heron]

maybe just put a transparent dark color over it lol

very bad example but just so you get an idea

[remote star]

Ill try

[trail vapor]

oh maybe

[remote star]

The yellow part is suposed to be flatter

[edgy heron]

omg the locom looks so good
face still looks flat tho

[trail vapor]

wow yes that looks significantly better

tho yea the face still looks flat as frosty said

[remote star]

Fixed the mouth istue

[trail vapor]

it still looks flat?

maybe it actually makes some sense with the shape of the bottom part tho?

[remote star]

Yea the bottom part is suposed to be where the train weels go

[trail vapor]

also why is the shading on some of the the barrier poles mirrored (on the train)?

[neon kernel]

yea why

(checked pinned in dms)

[remote star]

Because i didn't bother making it not mirrored, ill fix it tho

[trail vapor]

also small mistake here(?) there seems to be a bit of extra shadow on the mouth

[trail vapor]

while you're at it, i'd suggest adding the right end of the barrier (on top, where there are 2 tiles of them already) and mirror it properly with the proper shading

[remote star]

Nah its on purpose

[floral hemlock]

here @remote star

[remote star]

OOOOOO

THANK YOU

[trail vapor]

what's different?

[floral hemlock]

why does it look like a penis

[remote star]

Could u send the wagons woth shadows too 🥺

[trail vapor]

the pipe thing?

[remote star]

LMFAO

DIDN'T NOTICED UNTIL NOW 😭

[trail vapor]

why are you dirty-minded 😭

[neon kernel]

dirty minded

[floral hemlock]

which one are wagons...?

[floral hemlock]

bro, im like that 24/7

but it literally remind me it lmao

[remote star]

@floral hemlock those

[floral hemlock]

ah

[fickle sphinx]

whadja add this for

[remote star]

Its the bending from the locomotive and the face

[floral hemlock]

yeah

i could make without the line too

[remote star]

Nah the line is better ngl

[neon kernel]

[fickle sphinx]

its not really helping the penis allegations ngl

looks skinlike

[remote star]

Its looking less that with the line than without it tho

[floral hemlock]

lmao, weird hue of the train, that's why it look like that

[remote star]

Yea

[fickle sphinx]

metal doesnt tend to fold like that really thoigh

[remote star]

Ill do that part now

[floral hemlock]

@remote star

i don't have time for wagons so maybe someday

gave it some better depth, especially on ventilation

[remote star]

OOOOOOOOO

[floral hemlock]

also please, make gradient that are supposed to make shading, make them in another layer

[fickle sphinx]

looks good so far

outta curiosity whatre the pipes for

also do you gotst a plan for the wheels

[remote star]

Retexture code for the spinning cubes

[fickle sphinx]

gotcha

[glossy sequoia]

Can you please make the bullet bill red? This looks like a penis

[glossy sequoia]

Glad I’m not the only one who thought this

[remote star]

Red looks horrible

[floral hemlock]

prove it

[trail vapor]

are the tiles optimized tho?

[remote star]

Wdym

[crimson dome]

There's probably a bunch of tiles you can save in this tileset

[remote star]

@floral hemlock here's the PSD if u want to make some tweeks

[remote star]

@remote star reminder:
create new rail textures for 2-train
Make the level (of course)
Port the Rotationing squate retexture code to ncpather and create a wheel for the train
Show the new level

[remote star]

2 palletes

[remote star]

LDRB    R0, [R4, #0x8]
CMP    R0, #0x0
LDREQ    R0, =0x5D7
@Copy from here
CMP    R0, #desired nybble value to use in NSMBe
LDREQ    R0, =file id of model - 131
@...to here and paste before the "BX    LR" to add more models
BX        LR


nsub_0218737C_ov_64:
STMFD   SP!, {LR}
SUB     SP, SP, #4
LDR     R0, =0x5D7
MOV     R1, #0
BL      loadFileByExtId_3dModel
@Copy from here
LDR     R0, =file id of model - 131
MOV     R1, #0
BL      loadFileByExtId_3dModel
@...to here and paste before the "MOV     R0, #1" to add more models
MOV     R0, #1
ADD     SP, SP, #4
LDMFD   SP!, {PC}```

Ill port that

Wish it was world based but alr

[edgy heron]

@remote star could you send me your flip block model when you can? i need a tile size model as reference for something lol

if you want tho

[remote star]

Sure, i have it only in nsbmd tho :<
I used the Nsmbds flying block (level) model

[edgy heron]

ohhh yeah i should use that lol

thanks thanks

[remote star]

Yw ^^

Ill remake my flipblock at some point too

[trail vapor]

the flying block model is the same for both the worldmap and the levels btw. and yes also the same for both yellow and red blocks, only the texture and palette get switched

[trail vapor]

nice!! are you REALLY sure that you couldn't optimize this a bit tho? (the locomotive part specifically)

[trail vapor]

also this texture needs to be more ds-ified imo

[edgy heron]

i mean if hes not gonna add anymore stuff to it he doesnt really need to optimize it

and it also looks complex to structure if it were to be optimized too, so that would just be uneccesarily bashing your head against a wall lol

[remote star]

The tileset only have that so yea i dont think theres a reason to optimize

[trail vapor]

fair then i guess

[remote star]

After The smw goal tape request gets completed ill request a small thing that is disable the colision on the square rotating lifts, since i only use it as wheels in my mod (the w3 one is the triangle lift, wich is a different actor)

Because in w2 because of the train structure its pushing the player back and most times it pushes u into the rails wich is instant kill

[edgy heron]

this might be a big waste but couldnt u maybe try to just make an actor to load nsbmd and nsbca of a wheel?

[remote star]

I could do it, but theres a small problem tho

[trail vapor]

in that case it should also rotate. but i'm guessing the nsbca does the animation, right?

[remote star]

I would need to get the exact size of the weels

[remote star]

Yup nsbca is for rotating it

[trail vapor]

maybe use the flying "?" block as scale?

[edgy heron]

i had to export 6 models that had about the same scale as it, hopefully they dont look wrong ingame 😭

[remote star]

Theres also the code scale, wich took me a lot of time to make the airship face at the correct position

That part gave me nightmares

And disabling the colision for those weels will probably be a pretty easy code, wich is better i wait to finish the goal tape and make a request for this

And since i dont have anything else to request, i dont think ndy will mind me making the post a day after the goal tape thing is finished

-# Why i ways make a essay 😭

But im happy with the new train

For w2

[neon kernel]

so you tested it

[remote star]

Of course 😭

[neon kernel]

so youre finished testing

[remote star]

Bro i tested it but i didn't finished the level 😭

Actor spawner helping once again

Thanks will for porting that

[trail vapor]

i feel like the stars on the wheel should have a more proper star shape, with an (about) equal size on each branch

[remote star]

I see

[sweet owl]

the end of the train looks to much like a penis to me

[crimson dome]

||If you think in bread it's because you're hungry Illy||

[edgy heron]

😭😭😭😭😭

[sweet owl]

||my girlfriend is the bottom in the relationship silly, not me so it’s the other way around||

[floral hemlock]

if jpg didn't add that shading I wouldn't make it look like a penis 😭😭😭

[remote star]

So im also hungry 😭 ?

Ill change the shading of the train

Now its better

[floral hemlock]

remove it completaly and i will do it

you're gonna make penis 2.0

LMAO

[floral hemlock]

sakura smb ahh train

i like it

[remote star]

Sure LMAO

[edgy heron]

-# tbh it’s y’all’s fault for imagining it like that cause I didn’t think of it that way the first time 😭

[floral hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/biden-joe-biden-microphone-interview-walk-gif-2478024445377708296

[remote star]

Did some tweeks

Now its good

[floral hemlock]

@remote star what background will you use?

asking because i want to change you the window tiles

this will be also epic pro tip for anyone that wants to make any window and has small reflection or something

[remote star]

@floral hemlock

[floral hemlock]

Alright, what i mean by that? Basically you copy the background and put it layer below and add extra colours to the glass layer and after that you just select things that you want with this fake "transparency" and done

Ofc, it's a illusion and it brokes very easily

just one object in the bg with different colour and it's very noticable

[remote star]

Ooooooooo

[floral hemlock]

the mine above is would be very visible but if it were made with less pixels a bit it wouldn't be as much visible

I recommend doing this when your bg doesn't have alot of details and it's mainly one colour

[crimson dome]

Jouner, you should make an entire page with NSMB tileset drawing tutorials and tips

[remote star]

Indeed

[crimson dome]

It could be very useful for those who don't know how to do pixel art but want to make custom graphics

[floral hemlock]

tbh i can do that

only if the page would appear on the wiki /j

Kinda fun idea tbh, i was thinking about it before

[crimson dome]

You can

[floral hemlock]

I would need to make full tileset just for that (I know i don't need to but i could already post it for public lmao)

[crimson dome]

But it should be in a separate section for tutorials, I was planning on writing some basic tutorials on the wiki after we finished porting all the pages or when the wiki is in a more complete state

You could also write a guide on NSMBHD in the meantime

[floral hemlock]

Hmm, sure

i'll try do it today

[remote star]

Fixed the wheels issue by changing the retexture code to instead of being the square, it retexture the triangle

[trail vapor]

isn't the triangle used for those night stars tho?

[remote star]

Yea but i have a retexture code

LDRB    R0, [R4, #0x8]
CMP    R0, #0x0
LDREQ    R0, =0x5D7
@Copy from here
CMP    R0, #desired nybble value to use in NSMBe
LDREQ    R0, =file id of model - 131
@...to here and paste before the "BX    LR" to add more models
BX        LR


nsub_0218737C_ov_64:
STMFD   SP!, {LR}
SUB     SP, SP, #4
LDR     R0, =0x5D7
MOV     R1, #0
BL      loadFileByExtId_3dModel
@Copy from here
LDR     R0, =file id of model - 131
MOV     R1, #0
BL      loadFileByExtId_3dModel
@...to here and paste before the "MOV     R0, #1" to add more models
MOV     R0, #1
ADD     SP, SP, #4
LDMFD   SP!, {PC}```

I converted it to ncpather ofc

[trail vapor]

i thought you were using the retexture code for the stars already

[remote star]

And changed the adresses to the triangle one

(On the code page theres the adresses)

[trail vapor]

also the one (retexture code) for the rectangle lift, on nsmbhd, is broken. i have the fixed version if anyone needs it

[edgy heron]

i've done this before actually its smart

[remote star]

@edgy heron

[edgy heron]

W

[trail vapor]

honestly i think this tileset looks very clean

[remote star]

Thx!! ^^

Ngl im so happy with this tileset and level

[sweet owl]

It does, I think the head of the train should slope down instead of up though to make it look less like a circumcised penis

But that’s just me

[remote star]

Wait i added 0x before one of the ids ofc it didn't worked

Test again

Worked

Thankfully the code wanst c++ ngl

[remote star]

The level is still being made ofc

Also btw, the train level from w3 is more sort of a second airship, while the train of w2 is suposed to replace the castle

[fickle sphinx]

looks good

outta curiosity howdja get the wheels under the things

[remote star]

Signboard custom actor by frosty with some modfications

[fickle sphinx]

ah gotcha

[remote star]

@remote star reminder:
Add a luigi model and its files without textures to make it run in the normal hardware

[neon kernel]

YOURE ADDING BACK NDYLUIGI?

[sweet owl]

I wonder if jpg has seen this sprite sheet

[crystal grail]

It is wonderful

[remote star]

Yup, its pretty cute

[remote star]

No, just to make it run in the console

[trail vapor]

oh nice!!!

i'd suggest to add a shadow there tho

[remote star]

Oooo

Fr ill do

[trail vapor]

also i find it a bit hard to tell that the train bg wall is not solid

[remote star]

The guy who hacked me with the link DM'd me again with another weird link

[remote star]

I was thinking in changing it to Starbill Convoy, idk

[crimson dome]

Who's that Pokemon?

[remote star]

LMFAO

Hope me placing a lot of signboard custom actors dont crash the game in the train level 😭

Tho a lot of static actors dont crash the game i think

The only time that placing actors crashed the game was on 2-3 when it had a lot of torpedo ted spam

Oh also 3-train dont crashes the game, and it have a lot of actors in screen

[foggy crag]

https://tenor.com/view/nobody-cares-nobody-gives-a-fck-gif-16881823

[floral hemlock]

improve a bit the snow part shadow

more rounded?

[edgy heron]

the difference between ported and drawn goes crazy 😭

smoother tileset 🔥

[trail vapor]

the base itself looks clean, but the shading added in the second image doesn't look good

it should be less strong imo (in terms of darkness) and shouldn't affect the snow the same way as the rest of the ground

[trail vapor]

better, tho as i said i think the shading on the snow should be different

[floral hemlock]

make the shadow more blue/purple

[remote star]

First tileset remade in nsmb style progress

[remote star]

I see

[edgy heron]

already looks so much better lol, nice

[floral hemlock]

^

[remote star]

Guys, i using nsmb2 coins and nsmbu jyotyu un my hack is bad if i want to make the tileset and bg stile to nsmb?

[edgy heron]

no not really

my jyotyu (only the blocks) arent even ds (kinda) either lol

[trail vapor]

should be fine

[trail vapor]

i mean it's pretty much the case in Illy's hack

[remote star]

Im thinking on how ill make w3 and w4 stone bgs in nsmb

[remote star]

Well true yea

[sweet owl]

Mines all nsmbu

My coins probably look funky to people who aren’t the same colourblind as me though

[fickle sphinx]

if youre into it then why not

[remote star]

@floral hemlock u could do the sakura tree in nsmb style for w1 tileset?

Its 7 tiles tall and 5 tiles wide

[floral hemlock]

How does sakura tree look in nsmb style 😭

give me a reference from any mario game (not hacks.) or pixel arts and i'll do it

and palette if you could

[remote star]

@floral hemlock

[remote star]

Here some references (2 from tilesets)

[floral hemlock]

you didn't find good examples...

but sure

[edgy heron]

bottom right is the best probably lol

actually top left and bottom right

[floral hemlock]

it looks even AI generated 😭

[fickle sphinx]

i think i have some trees in my refs folder

tyre not cherry blossom ones tho

[floral hemlock]

not a problem

until they're good and especially from nintendo games then it's good

i literally looking up now the mario party series since i know there is like china theme

(this one)

but no trees except one

[fickle sphinx]

theyre sprites

[floral hemlock]

now this is a good reference

[trail vapor]

they just have kinda weird lower pixels sometimes. tho to me they look like the nsmb2 ones

[neon kernel]

finally

a WORKING freezeflame bg

[remote star]

Yea

[floral hemlock]

i seen that iceberg i think today or yesterday

not sure which U hack

[neon kernel]

i would make the iceberg and sky slightly redder

but other than that great

[edgy heron]

like 90% sure i've seen that in smm2, might be a vanilla u thing?

[remote star]

W2-2 will use that bg

[floral hemlock]

yeahh

[worthy fern]

At what level is the bg with the wall supposed to be used, that is, the background of the entire w2?

[remote star]

Yea its for the whole world

[worthy fern]

The one on the wall?

[remote star]

Yea

This is a volcano world so ig its fine for it

It have snow just for the funni (and because its cool)

[worthy fern]

Oh I see, the wall looks weird

[remote star]

The world 2 is just a rendemption of the old w5 now, since it had even the wall

Ill add even the snowy sakura tileset i think

Idk

-# no way its actually sakura smb now

[worthy fern]

I think it would look better in a more natural way.

[worthy fern]

It would look great with those pines naturally

[remote star]

Theyre just behind the wall

[worthy fern]

Yes I know, if you want tell the one who makes the bg to remove the wall or send an alternative version

[remote star]

1 is finished
2 is almost finished

Almost finished

[remote star]

356
518
649

[cyan stirrup]

Are these the lottery numbers?

[trail vapor]

jpg editing a background it seems

(those are file ids)

[cyan stirrup]

jpg editing the lottery numbers

[remote star]

Yup

2-train almost half done

[remote star]

Half done

7,5 chunks left

[neon kernel]

jpg it was ALREADY FINISHED 😭

[remote star]

I never said it was lmao

[neon kernel]

it had a full level

it was semi playable

[remote star]

It HAD

Im remaking it

To be better

And more alive

[remote star]

Finished

[floral hemlock]

you could make a second palette for this whole tileset that is more blue-ish

to fit the night theme

[remote star]

Good idea actually

[remote star]

Ill cook with my worldmpas now, ill remake everything again, but yall will see why

[trail vapor]

again??

[remote star]

Yea

But yall will see why

Also, thx will smith for that 👀

[trail vapor]

if it's not for path animations and transparency then i dont see why

[remote star]

Tip: its the camera

[trail vapor]

oh okay then

[remote star]

The New maps will be really New to nsmbds, and will have fixed transparency

[floral hemlock]

Maybe ui stuff now??

i'd like to see improved ones finally 😭

[remote star]

Its X/Y/Z scroll

[trail vapor]

????

????

X/Y/Z scroll????

[remote star]

Yup

[trail vapor]

wow we acheved peak

so this means vertical world maps are now possible?

[remote star]

Yup

[trail vapor]

wow

[remote star]

Maps going up and down too

[trail vapor]

and this kind of stuff is now possible in nsmb?
https://smbnext.net/gallery/2022/3.png

[remote star]

Yup

[trail vapor]

WOW

wow

wowowowow

wow that's so cool

[remote star]

Ngl im super excited to make my new maps

[trail vapor]

are they gonna be bigger?

[remote star]

Yup

[trail vapor]

are they gonna have more elements and overload vram?

[remote star]

Nah, i learned worldmap optimozation 😎

[trail vapor]

okay then

[sweet owl]

how?

did will write it for u?

[trail vapor]

WOW

[sweet owl]

and thats sent write as I say it lol

[floral hemlock]

oh really?

[floral hemlock]

oh shoosh

[sweet owl]

do u plan on making that public will?

[floral hemlock]

will it be public or something?

it's pretty revolutional i guess?

[elder crystal]

of course

[trail vapor]

wow great

[elder crystal]

just gotta fix a few things and make it enabled/disabled depending on the worldmap

[sweet owl]

well, looks like every world in new++ is getting an airship now lol

im doing custom worldmaps now

[trail vapor]

i just really wish i had 3d modelling skills

(i mean i can make models in sketchup but they're pretty simplistic and not optimized, because sketchup)

[remote star]

Tip: use og maps as a base

It will help making a new nap

Map

Ill not use og as a base, since i learned worldmap dimentions

[trail vapor]

yea but i'd like to make shapes rather than simply copy-pasting stuff

and also use blender overall

[floral hemlock]

make a video of the progress of how you make the worldmap

this would be useful for everyone most likely

[remote star]

With the maps i have now

[trail vapor]

honestly now that you say it, i think this might make it easier

[remote star]

Ill make the new maps today

Starting by order

Firstly w1

Then w2

Then w3

Then w4

[floral hemlock]

RECORD THE PROCESS

[remote star]

And finally w5

[floral hemlock]

i'll do then any tileset you want 🙏

[remote star]

Ill do

[remote star]

-# do a sakura tileset 🥺

Man, seriously im so hyped to make the new maps

First ill Record the train level

[floral hemlock]

record every process to make a map work, with it's path also if you can

[remote star]

On the pc it will be kinda hard so ill stream the screen on my phone

And record with mobizen

[floral hemlock]

anything works

[fickle sphinx]

excellent work

[remote star]

^

Bro is the best nsmb programmer and thought we wouldn't notice

[sweet owl]

that level is extreamly boring

there is nothing going on

its just two min of nothing but a few koopas

[remote star]

Ill do more stuff on it

[trail vapor]

the music feels weird. and i feel like the level is a bit too slow-paced and lacks a main gimmick other than red koopas

[remote star]

The main gimmic of the level is it being a scrolling train

Ofc

Ill add more stuff

[trail vapor]

yea but that alone is pretty boring

[remote star]

Yea true

Ill add more stuff

[trail vapor]

the level seems also very easy for a final w2 level

[sweet owl]

you cant make a whole level based on that

[remote star]

Ik

[remote star]

Yea its pretty easy ngl

But will add more stuff in it

Ill probably add mecha koopa

And stuff

[sweet owl]

making the structure of the level first limits you a lot through for when you make the main parts of it

you should make the level then to the deco or do the deco as yoy go

[remote star]

Yea fr

I cant add much actors tho

Since i placed 96 actors for the wheels thing

[crystal grail]

Thats cool, also idk if i alredy said this but the pink in the UI is extremely bright, i think if it was a lighter pink it would be more pleasent to llok at

[remote star]

Ye ill fix this

[crystal grail]

The ui pink

[crystal grail]

okie

[still roost]

Oh wait you got the acorn suit working I didn't notice 😭

[sweet owl]

in the whole level or for each cart?

[remote star]

The whole level

2 for each wheels

Some wheels have 4

[edgy heron]

IM ABOUT TO BREAK WORLDMAPS WITH EVERY WORLD ONWARDS THANKS TO THIS 😭🙏🙏🙏

will is actually making the peak of nsmb modding

it can allow petal isles to be actually mostly functional 😭

[remote star]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

HES THE ULTRA SUPREME GOAT

[plush jasper]

Yeah gonna try to add more functions to the imaginary map editor during the next summer vacation

3D Rendering part is gonna be the most annoying, I can already tell

Thankfully it's all just imagination

[remote star]

I dont think its that imaginary

👁 👁

[plush jasper]

It is

[remote star]

I can tell this will be the best imaginary map editor ever

[plush jasper]

Will found other cool effects

I hope he figures the 40 frames limit out

Custom wXtree.nsbca can only have 40 frames at most

[remote star]

Thats a great ammount still

[plush jasper]

Or it could be different depending on other worldmaps

Ah wait wrong one

I meant wXtree.nsbca

[remote star]

Oh oki

[plush jasper]

40 frames is not great

[remote star]

Path animations can have how much frames?

Wait

[plush jasper]

It allows quick looping animations

[plush jasper]

I think there is no limit