i mean yes it could be improved but its just too minimal .p
#Sakura SMB DS
edgy heron
elder crystal
just leave their server, simple, forget it exists
crimson dome
-# Me clicking your profile after you said that and realizing you left Evo
edgy heron
same 
fickle sphinx
tbqh while i dont think the convo needed to go on for as long as it did i think yall tend to get a bit defensive/dismissive toward criticism from evo sorta quick
pseudo ravine
Are yellow Spikes reskins of bomb spikes from Newer DS with Mechakoopas being Bob-Omb reskins?
fickle sphinx
tbqh while i dont think the convo needed to go on for as long as it did i think ...
i think its somewhat understandable how consistency of elements is good when youre trying to create one coherent whole
pseudo ravine
Weren't Mechakoopa bombs red tho?
crimson dome
tbqh while i dont think the convo needed to go on for as long as it did i think ...
Yeah, I must admit I went a bit too far with that convo, I was just trying to defend JPG, I feel it's just that I'm used to people there criticizing our hacks for no reason, JPG showcased something that makes him happy and people just went "this looks bad, improve it"
edgy heron
tbqh while i dont think the convo needed to go on for as long as it did i think ...
yeah cant deny that tbf, i do feel my first response was a bit too defensive lol
fickle sphinx
Yeah, I must admit I went a bit too far with that convo, I was just trying to de...
again i think sayting its criticism for "no reason" is dismissive
ik people can forget that their opinions of the hack might not align with what yall want from it
but try to take it in good faith and if they cant respect that you dont want to do that in your hack for x y z reason its prolly not worth arguing or listening to them
crimson dome
Yeah, you're right
Also, when I said criticism for no reason, I was mainly referring to the fact that they generally seem to hate ported graphics just for the sake of hating them, it's like it's become a tradition there and they don't really give a real reason as to why they hate them, they just take every opportunity to hate them
fickle sphinx
Also, when I said criticism for no reason, I was mainly referring to the fact th...
will responf to this later in #the-basement since im about to get in the shower
sweet owl
I have them in new++
fickle sphinx
will responf to this later in <#1225646709837664276> since im about to get in th...
#the-basement is crashing for me
pallid shale
How the hell a channel crashes for you? sob
Dc is Broken so like opening some channels crashes dc soemtimes
remote star
just leave their server, simple, forget it exists
Thats what i did ngl
neon kernel
remote star
STOP π
remote star
Btw, i added this song to rainy levels
trail vapor
it doesnt play (on mobile at least)
remote star
That will play
trail vapor
probably ios/mobile moment
trail vapor
oh nice
floral hemlock
Btw, i added this song to rainy levels
oh my god, this music reminds me of one level from Ty the tasmanian tiger π (Lyre, Lyre, Pants On Fire)
sweet owl
probably ios/mobile moment
Yup, they donβt play for me either
remote star
trail vapor
it feels like you tried to mix 3 themes at once...
crimson dome
I really feel like the trees in the background should be darker, I also feel the volcanoes look a bit off, but maybe that's just me
crimson dome
This hack will never get finished with the constant theme changes
trail vapor
i got an idea JPG: give a unique theme to each single level 
/j
-# PLEASE don't do it
crimson dome
Too late, now JPG will want to do it, delete your message before he definitely decides to do it and requests for ten million more code hacks 
/j
remote star
I donβt know what to say at this point
That theme is old lol
Its already on w2 for a while
Its for the levels 2-2 and 2-A
remote star
i got an idea JPG: give a unique theme to each single level <:marioready:4736881...
I think ill do it, but ill need to request 10.000.000 code hacks for that, not a bad idea π€
crimson dome
Ban
remote star
Ok, ill request only 50.000 code hacks
trail vapor
100 code hacks no more than this
crimson dome
@Ndy when are we going to finally ban JPG? /j
trail vapor
100 code hacks no more than this
including those that you already have
crimson dome
100 code hacks no more than this
I believe this hack has already surpassed that amount
remote star
@Ndy when are we going to finally ban JPG? /j
Why π
edgy heron
lets have a rainbow full of every theme in the world as a theme π
remote star
I have 60 i thibk
crimson dome
I think I have no more than 20
remote star
Or 70
crimson dome
And most of them are just bug fixes
trail vapor
i think there are like 60 or 70 in TLS
remote star
But i think its 60
trail vapor
tho more than half of them are very small things, like press item on select, save anytime, and improved blue shell
some are slightly larger stuff like retexture codes or Illy's improved powerup/inventory system
crimson dome
Wait, did Illy release that code?
trail vapor
-# no it's because you want as many code hacks as possible 
crimson dome
^
remote star
π
trail vapor
someone really needs to make an "NSMBC slander" video
remote star
Trueeee π
crimson dome
JPG try not to import every single code hack ever existed even if you don't need it challenge (ultra impossible challenge)
remote star
Now im gonna eat watermelon bye π
remote star
JPG try not to import every single code hack ever existed even if you don't need...
LMAO
trail vapor
Now im gonna eat watermelon bye π
bye π
edgy heron
bro how do u guys have so many themes wtf
i literally have 5 themes at max rn π½
grassland, autumn, sky (unfinished), underground, castle (green), castle (purple)
6
pallid shale
someone really needs to make an "NSMBC slander" video
Stardust readying himself in the morning for the oncoming onslaught of pings and getting ready to enforce rules the second someone utters a word that is not "Hello. How. are you . My friend" outside of the lounge
trail vapor
bro how do u guys have so many themes wtf
for us (Cloudie and me) already planning those of the whole hack that's why
trail vapor
Stardust readying himself in the morning for the oncoming onslaught of pings and...
share ideas in #the-basement please
crimson dome
||-# Backseat moderating β¨ /j||
crimson dome
Stardust readying himself in the morning for the oncoming onslaught of pings and...
I don't know who Stardust is
trail vapor
||-# ~~Backseat moderating β¨ /j~~||
no it's because i resent the question in the lounge and i'm expecting more people to see it there
remote star
Lakitunder fucking crashes w3-castle π
@neon kernel we will need to remake this level without lakitunder π
trail vapor
do you have the boss fix code hack?
have you tried to keep it in 7-Castle, last area, and use the area overflow bug?
remote star
Or do smth in area 2 so no lakitunder
remote star
do you have the boss fix code hack?
Yea
crimson dome
Or you could maybe try exporting the Lakithunder area from world 7 and import it in 3-Castle
trail vapor
maybe that could work as well
trail vapor
aka enshittification of the bossfight
tropic hound
Just make every Jr. fight utterly sadistic, that'll work
remote star
How i will even do this π
tropic hound
Find Ztardust, hit him over the head with a shovel and keep in a room until he thinks of some ideas for use to steal- er- permanently borrow /j
sweet owl
Just make every Jr. fight utterly sadistic, that'll work
Just make every bowser ur fight take 150 stomps
And make him immune to all other damage
neon kernel
since i know he wont take the easier option to change it back
why not have rising and lowering lava
sweet owl
I can send the Monty caste b side code :3
crimson dome
JPG literally has more code hacks than all of us at this point
sweet owl
I doubt its larger than mine, if I send my source folder to a zip files, this is the file size
sweet owl
how would the source folder be larger than a rom lol
fickle sphinx
jpeg outta curiosity have you considered doing any graphics editing stuff on pc
or is mobile just your personal preference
remote star
or is mobile just your personal preference
Yea its just because i preffer doing those stuff on mobile
Imo its more convenient
fickle sphinx
gotcha
tropic hound
I like the checkerboard pattern
remote star
Yea its pretty good
remote star
Bro 2-2 is giving a lot of muncher fields vibe
cyan stirrup
Jpg64, can you do a lil' tutorial on how to use Ibis paint for Tileset-making?
remote star
Sure
cyan stirrup
Lesgoo
remote star
Btw all the levels that will use this thematic
cyan stirrup
I can't wait more to play the final hackkkk
neon kernel
I can't wait more to play the final hackkkk
i cant wait for jpg to give us the updated rom either
were still on pre freezeflame/proper acorn
edgy heron
i read that as popcorn π½
remote star
i cant wait for jpg to give us the updated rom either<:marioready:47368819284377...
Ill update it
edgy heron
google drive dot com
remote star
I was going to wait until boomerang fix + mushroom spawn tho
neon kernel
Ill update it
finally π
remote star
I was going to wait until boomerang fix + mushroom spawn tho
So yall would have 100% acorn and 100% boomerang
But ill update today
And after the fix
I update again
cyan stirrup
google drive dot com
Bro is a little confused
neon kernel
So yall would have 100% acorn and 100% boomerang
im gonna backport it to pre shuricorn anyway
remote star
Bro will have a gliding shell mario π
remote star
(You cant twirl with shuricorn, only glide)
remote star
I already had it π
neon kernel
good for you π
neon kernel
But dont touch the acorn model π½
i wont touch the shuriken model dw
fickle sphinx
(You cant twirl with shuricorn, only glide)
does that mean the twirl button is usef for gliding
remote star
The gliding is part from the ssmb twirl code
Im uplaoding the dev rom @neon kernel @tropic hound
tropic hound
Nice
remote star
I wish itens, boos, koopas goombas and podoboos where 3d models
Idk if i make a request to it tbh
trail vapor
i already feel bad for the DSes that wont be able to handle your hack with all those 3d modeled enemies
edgy heron
vertex color the enemies and that way they wont take up vram
trail vapor
the polygon count is also probably a lot for the game to handle
it's okay if there are 3 or 4 of them per area, but keep in mind that there are SEVERAL of them usually
sweet owl
bro thinkis its easy for us to make them 3d even though it means rewriting half the actor
ur not getting them as 3d models
remote star
I mean, i didn't asked it, i just said that i would probably ask for
trail vapor
you already started making the models
remote star
you already started making the models <:HappyFlower:1257770316457840781>
Its from tmr
(The models resource)
trail vapor
you imported them and i assumed you were already gonna do the texture stuff
remote star
Even not on ssmb scene i like downloading the model resourse stuff
trail vapor
i should probably have said "preparing the models"
remote star
I already had those long time ago
edgy heron
I mean, i didn't asked it, i just said that i would probably ask for
i think the issue with this type of messages is that it gets easily interpreted as ''if you want to ask for something then ask it isntead of pretending to wish for it so that someone can make it for you''
remote star
When i really need it i make a request, and when i dont really need but think its cool i say here as a idea, but dont meaning i really will do/ask it
Ditto ill download more shit, bye
remote star
Even not on ssmb scene i like downloading the model resourse stuff
I mean, i mostly learned 3d modeling by looking people 3d modeling, and looking into 3d models, and when i dont really know smth i search up or ask in mkds modding
Ill make low poly bullet bills maybe
Im making a lot of low poly shit in ssmb for no reason beside i like it lol
crimson dome
I'd personally strongly recommend you to get confirmation that something can be done before even considering making a model for it, it almost feels like you're forcing people to code them for you
trail vapor
in his defense, as long as he doesn't explicitly says "can someone please code this for me", it shouldn't be considered as asking for it (let alone "forcing people to do it")
-# not my fault if y'all think he's implicitly asking for it when he doesn't sometimes
crimson dome
If you're making a model for it, it's because you want it and are planning to make a request for it, what's the point on making a model for something that you will not even request in the first place?
trail vapor
typical JPG64 Β―_(γ)_/Β―
crimson dome
JPG moment β
trail vapor
he said that he likes to 3d model stuff for fun sometimes tho
crimson dome
Fair I guess
trail vapor
tho yea sometimes it does look like he's planning on adding it
but i wouldn't go to the point of saying that he's "forcing people" to do it
remote star
If you're making a model for it, it's because you want it and are planning to ma...
I like 3d model enemies, or random stuff sometimes tho
edgy heron
I like 3d model enemies, or random stuff sometimes tho
same
crimson dome
In that case I'd recommend to post the screenshots of the models in #hobby-showcase instead of here, idk
edgy heron
3d modeling π
remote star
In that case I'd recommend to post the screenshots of the models in <#1130211991...
I mean, i dont really care about random stuff in this channel (unless ndy or other mod cares about it) so i normally show random stuff here
crimson dome
I care π‘ /j
remote star
π /j
Mkds fortress course bulet bill
Bro 25 fucking tris
Those bullet bills are more beautiful
edgy heron
GG's to Frosty
how do people find the signboard so useful π
i mean not saying its useless tho
crimson dome
For me it was useful, because I wanted to get rid of the arrow signboards in my jyotyu tileset to make more room for extra stuff. not to mention that I also wanted to add the powerup signs but I didn't have any other place to add them
Also, you basically said I can add as much textures as I want right?
I should have made a snowy signboard but I forgor 
edgy heron
Also, you basically said I can add as much textures as I want right?
ding ding ding
tho at the same time there may be a limit of i think 255
it may be lower but im 100% sure it cant go past 255
sweet owl
your only limit is vram
sweet owl
you can go past 255, it depends on how u use the settings
crimson dome
I mean, I'm not JPG, I'm not gonna place signboards everywhere
sweet owl
also, I rather using a plane for that btw it makes it a lot easier to adjust the size of whats drawn and you can also easily load animations with the models to have animated 3d deco
edgy heron
nsbmd that's just a plane you mean?
sweet owl
yeah
edgy heron
hmm
crimson dome
So, I imagine textures can also have different sizes right?
Or is it only restricted to 32x32?
edgy heron
for now its 32x32 yeah
(its easy to make it any size tho i just havent got to adding that yet since it wasnt neccesary for the request, but i'll do it sometime .p)
crimson dome
-# I was actually gonna request something similar, not for my hack, but for someone else's hack
Yep, him
sweet owl
I tried but I could not be fucked, the old template was to painful
crimson dome
The old template version is not necessary, it's fine if it's for NCPatcher since I'm the one importing the code hacks for him
He is still using the old ASM Template from NSMBHD
fickle sphinx
for now its 32x32 yeah
is the texture size hardcoded in your script
trail vapor
trees in lava is just wrong tho
fickle sphinx
bowsers patented noninflammable trees
trail vapor
JPG64 on his way to spam arrow signboards in his hack
floral hemlock
trees in lava is just wrong tho
imo i like them, but if I needed to change them, I tried to make burned down ones
with no leafs and etc
trail vapor
yea that would make more sense
remote star
remote star
1 or 2
edgy heron
1 looks smoother but 2 has better lighting
remote star
1 looks smoother but 2 has better lighting
Between the 2 wich one u preffer?
edgy heron
i canβt really choose tbh those r the things that are good about them
maybe in general tho I might prefer 2
remote star
Gotcha
remote star
Surprise
remote star
One thing i hate on desmume is that it dont show when polygons are disapearing (not for this bomb, i mean from general)
remote star
by chance are you planning on replacing the banzai bill with a 2d texture
Yeah
Mostly because i think nsmbds banzai bill Ulgy
Tho that shit keeps rotating, so i asked for a code so banzai bills dont rotate anymore
fickle sphinx
Mostly because i think nsmbds banzai bill Ulgy
why not remodel the banzai bill insteada replacing it with a static texture
probsd look better due to the antialiasing n lighting
remote star
I tried with nsmb2 ones but its too high poly
And im bad with banzai bill/bullet bill like models
remote star
I changed to red the torpedos, but its not a random change, it have 2 reasons:
They where too similar with bulet bills
They where almost invisible by the bg
And looks good
And since theres no red torpedo ted its a original idea!
elder crystal
Mostly because i think nsmbds banzai bill Ulgy
your flat banzai billboard is gonna look way worse, trust me
imo
crimson dome
crimson dome
Mostly because i think nsmbds banzai bill Ulgy
Bro dislikes all the NSMBDS enemy graphics 
remote star
your flat banzai billboard is gonna look way worse, trust me
Ill try making a model that inst a billboard then
And ngl i trust you because almost every billboard stuff looks weird lol
remote star
2 parrots
edgy heron
jpg boutta add parrots to ssmb now
remote star
Making a new enemy
neon kernel
Bro dislikes all the NSMBDS enemy graphics <:LuigiBruh:1303060177578365029>
not true
use a pink pallate for anything
and hell like em
trail vapor
wait what
trail vapor
why π
edgy heron
its like ''wait wtf jpg could code and we're all doing the dirty work for him???''
remote star
trail vapor
its like ''wait wtf jpg could code and we're all doing the dirty work for him???...
no lmao i was just surprised π
edgy heron
lol same
remote star
I looked into some codes and did it
Tho idk how to make hitboxes nor make it move
But it loads a 3d model and animation
edgy heron
ik about the collision but its still confusing to me cause its weirdly offset
trail vapor
Ill make animated waterfalls later
how easy do you think it would be?
edgy heron
thebester7 is at your local
trail vapor
because that's the first code hack i wanna make
edgy heron
how easy do you think it would be?
if you use nsbtx its super easy
remote star
how easy do you think it would be?
I can make it for u if u want
trail vapor
I can make it for u if u want
NO
edgy heron
i think nsbmd is just as easy too
trail vapor
i wanna learn
remote star
Its pretty easy
trail vapor
if you use nsbtx its super easy
okay then!!
edgy heron
if you use nsbtx its super easy
u can make it a sort of number and every X timer it goes higher
and the animation is just multiple graphics in the nsbtx
trail vapor
and the animation is just multiple graphics in the nsbtx
could it also scroll?
remote star
For making actors i only need first to know how to calculate the adresses
trail vapor
like, one single scrolling texture
remote star
Yea, but it would be harder i think
trail vapor
okay
trail vapor
did you look at the code reference or something?
remote star
I looked at some actors code i have, and did it using some stuff i looked and thinked that makes sense, i got some errors but now it works
trail vapor
-# me on my way to stop working on levels to make code hacks instead
trail vapor
I looked at some actors code i have, and did it using some stuff i looked and th...
oh okay
edgy heron
For making actors i only need first to know how to calculate the adresses
#1302015114941042739 message
edgy heron
https://discord.com/channels/399424476259024897/1302015114941042739/130202410205...
and if u cant convert the number to hex in your mind then just do this (using actor 271 and obj info 100)
wheat islandBOT
JPG64
remote star
Ill see the hitbox shit latter, lemme code the waterfall
trail vapor
and if u cant convert the number to hex in your mind then just do this (using ac...
i always use this for hex stuff
remote star
0203997c
020c529c
fair geode
Coded my first actor!!
Jpg is a programmer confirmed
crimson dome
Coded my first actor!!
Bro wtf? π
Finally, JPG will stop begging for code hacks and start making them himself 
/j congrats
remote star
Thanks ^^
remote star
Finally, JPG will stop begging for code hacks and start making them himself <:Ma...
Tho theres some shit idk how to do such as custom boss (ill need to ask for a custom final boss actor if i dont learn how to make it, but i think i will probably learn)
And the thing on the boomerang item and acorn (mushroom and custom head on map/other level areas)
But a custom enemy if i want now i can do
trail vapor
finally 
edgy heron
i havent got to making custom enemies yet tbh but i think i'll try doing some for w2
but the next actor im gonna try making is a platform that im also gonna use for w2
remote star
trail vapor
are the orchins functional?
remote star
Yup
remote star
Yea they damadge you and such
remote star
can they move as well?
Theyre mini urchins, theyre static
trail vapor
okay
frozen cove
Why Are The Torpedo Teds Red? Are They Targeting Teds?
remote star
Why Are The Torpedo Teds Red? Are They Targeting Teds?
Nope, theyre just to diferentiate from normal bullet bills and banzais
frozen cove
Okay. But I Want To See Targeting Teds In Game. But Make Them Black. Just Like Torpedo Teds. I Hope Bulls Eye Bill And Bonzai Bulls Eye Are Added Next.
remote star
Guys, do i change my muncher graphic to modern muncher or keep this one?
trail vapor
to match the theme of the hack i'd say probably the nsmbu one
edgy heron
ngl u could give the urchins gravity which could give it more functionality than just act as a hazard
like for example dropping them on the player
as a sort of survival
trail vapor
Toysty Cake is the new Newton: he's giving ideas about gravity after learning how it works (in code)
edgy heron
LMFAO π
remote star
shy wraith
Guys, do i change my muncher graphic to modern muncher or keep this one?
can't see the muncher there.
remote star
can't see the muncher there.
Look up in mario direction
remote star
remote star
It is
In the map i couldn't add the details, but this world have 3 levels with this theme
If i made a koopatlas map variant, it would be easier to show, the world is like this:
1st half snow + lava (higher part of the map)
2nd half rain + volcanos (lower part of the map)
trail vapor
oh okay
wait i just realized that you kinda brought back the "Pine tree lake" theme here
remote star
Yea lol
trail vapor
that's nice, i actually missed this theme
remote star
I loved this theme and didn't wanted to scrapp it
floral hemlock
i like the rain aesthetic!
^
i might make a tileset for similiar theme in the future π (i really like the vibe of it)
i like the music you choosed for those levels too
fits perfectly for this kind of theme
edgy heron
-# i find it kinda funny how this hack was mocked for the amount of code hacks and now its being praised lol...
jk lmao, but yeah that rain aesthethic looks peak
floral hemlock
-# i find it kinda funny how this hack was mocked for the amount of code hacks a...
-# i just like he's themes and ideas, even if there are changed 20x times per second
trail vapor
-# i find it kinda funny how this hack was mocked for the amount of code hacks a...
honestly i think it's a solid hack, it's just needs a bit more polishing in some points, and should have less drastic changes done impulsively
-# omg drastic emulator referenerence!!1!1!1!1!
remote star
Ill not change themes anymore tho, im happy with the ones i have now
remote star
-# ~~omg drastic emulator referenerence!!1!1!1!1!~~
-# 
Tilesets
I need to remove thode random munchers
floral hemlock
honestly i think it's a solid hack, it's just needs a bit more polishing in some...
Yeahh, i hope few things could look better, but i believe he will improve them at somepoint
neon kernel
i still think old top bg new bottom is infinetly better\
theres too many volcanoes on this one
crimson dome
-# i find it kinda funny how this hack was mocked for the amount of code hacks a...
We have always praised this hack, we only started mocking it after JPG started requesting a bunch of code hacks for no reason, but yeah, what Bester said, this hack is really great and has a lot of potential, my only criticism is that JPG seriously needs to chill with the code hack requests and stop changing stuff impulsively
sweet owl
Tho that shit keeps rotating, so i asked for a code so banzai bills dont rotate ...
Just make a nsmbu hack at this point
remote star
remote star
your water puddles are better than mine ;-;
Use this graphic, with 70% transparency
trail vapor
okay, might add it later
trail vapor
thanks!!
remote star
fickle sphinx
nice work
floral hemlock
-# water puddles... are those public?? I might use them when I will finish someday mine beach tileset and need a showcase level lol
remote star
U can use it ofc
fickle sphinx
not sure if theyd work well with a beach tho
since walking on them would cause a splash on normal water
iirc
trail vapor
they look cute
floral hemlock
not sure if theyd work well with a beach tho
idk, personally I really like playing around with random things that might fit, fun!
trail vapor
since walking on them would cause a splash on normal water
uhh yea combining water tiles with the water sprites can sometimes cause a mess
remote star
they look cute
Yea theyre cute
-# and the code is probably worse than a skawo code
remote star
uhh yea combining water tiles with the water sprites can sometimes cause a mess
It literally turns into lava or poison if you place them in the view
trail vapor
yes π
elder crystal
horrible hitboxes but they look good π₯
cyan stirrup
They look good, but they are so much different from the ones that are already in the game, I like those, they are more unique
remote star
horrible hitboxes but they look good π₯
Thx! ^^
remote star
They look good, but they are so much different from the ones that are already in...
Thx! ^^
Ill select some levels for the demo now guys
So, i think ill chose like this:
1-2
3-2
4-3
2-2
2-Ship
5-1
5-3
1-3
3-train
5-tank
What yall thinks?
Ill use that theme for the ? World (on the demo)
https://youtu.be/G604LIQZbCc?si=vkfaNdsh6HkGvozg
The map will be smth like riivolution wii
But pink instead of red
And im thinking in a map name
fair geode
What yall thinks?
I don't know what any of these levels look like
remote star
I was thinking in calling w? (Demo world) "unfinished lands"
fickle sphinx
outta curiosity dya plan on posting the demo on the nsmbhd thread
remote star
Yup
fickle sphinx
ah cool
fair geode
Can this also be played on 3ds
remote star
Idk tho
edgy heron
would be a miracle if it did, knowing the size of this hack lmao
fair geode
Well it should, but if it only works on an emulator than it's the inaccurate emulation that bypassed the limitation of a 3ds console
crimson dome
I have a slight feeling that this hack won't work on real hardware, lol
edgy heron
i think itβll def run in desmume
tbh I might ask someone to test out my hack for me on real hardware cause my dsi is broken so I canβt do that .p
fair geode
Cool
crimson dome
tbh I might ask someone to test out my hack for me on real hardware cause my dsi...
I can test it for you if you want
I always test my hack on my DS every time I finish a world
remote star
Well it should, but if it only works on an emulator than it's the inaccurate emu...
I think that if it runs on drastic, it should run on a 3ds, because when the game dont crash on drastic and i test on my 3ds, it dont crash too, when it crashes on drastic in the 3ds it also crashes
Thes like 4/5 months i dont test it on a 3ds
fickle sphinx
gotsta test that stuff on real hardware
or at least an emulator geared towards accuracy
like melon
edgy heron
yeah if it crashes in melon then thatβs already a sign that it wonβt work on real hardware lol
crimson dome
But my hack's demo crashed for Ndy and it runs perfectly on real hardware
Or perhaps could it have been fixed in the recent Melon update?
remote star
Melon is ass
edgy heron
forgor abou that
fickle sphinx
what if ndy broke the rom himself to make melonds look bad
remote star
Looks like smth ndy would make
crimson dome
I don't think so, that level got practically no changes at all
remote star
Then change it 
fickle sphinx
Melon is ass
melons the only emu that supports antialiasing proper so it clears
remote star
Drastic also have a perfect antialiasing
fickle sphinx
oh ic
crimson dome
All emulators are good with no exceptions, whoever hates on emulators for no reason will be banned 
/j
floral hemlock
Can you ping me when you release demo
me too
edgy heron
me three!!
elder crystal
imo you should really try to get the hack running on real hardware
edgy heron
tho jpg didnβt u replace some songs with sseqs? I imagine the nwavs are taking most of the space
remote star
imo you should really try to get the hack running on real hardware
Idk how i would make it tho
edgy heron
canβt he use himself or 3ds π
fair geode
Idk how i would make it tho
If it doesn't work on 3ds don't worry about it
As long as it's playable it's fine unless you don't like it not being played on console
It's just a opinion mine that I don't like when emulators work on a game and not the console itself
But I don't know about other people
elder crystal
I'm with you
If I'm making a hack for a DS game I'd want it to be playable on the DS
fickle sphinx
yeah i think the prevailing consensus of the community is that hacks are expected to work on hardware
havent seen any hacks designed n labeled as exclusively for emus
remote star
If I'm making a hack for a DS game I'd want it to be playable on the DS
Ngl that i agree with it
Im with you 2 too
crimson dome
Yeah, I always say, what's the point of making a hack if it doesn't even run on real hardware? A hack is more fun when you play it on the console it's meant for
remote star
Agree
crimson dome
I'll play the demo on my DS once you release it JPG
remote star
Hope it works, i think it will
fair geode
Yeah, I always say, what's the point of making a hack if it doesn't even run on ...
This is a huge problem with nsmbu
remote star
Yea
fair geode
Most of the mods for that game can't be played on console
It don't make the mods bad, It just makes them more unplayable
edgy heron
I wish I could play on consoles π
pseudo ravine
Btw, i added this song to rainy levels
π₯π₯π₯
Bro chose to include peak in the mod
remote star
royal void
Demo
wintry rose
royal void
Will it have a level selection screen like this?
remote star
Im gona save the areas here:
Demo world
?-1 = 24
?-2 = 46
Train = 51
Ship = 37
Tank = 99
?-3 = 71
?-4 = 96
?-5 = 88
?-6 = 3
remote star
Will it have a level selection screen like this?
It will be a custom worldmap
I did it last week
crimson dome
I feel like the "Demo" positioning is a bit off here, you should place it below the "Sakura SMB. DS", or you could leave it where it is and place an artwork above the "Demo" text ||like an acorn||
remote star
I feel like the "Demo" positioning is a bit off here, you should place it below ...
The acorn is the core item so it could be placed there
remote star
remote star
Goombatlas map
Now path animations
After that level intros
And then ill wait until item fixes, because i want people to test both acorn (this one is 100% finished, only need to drop a mushroom if mario is small) and boomerang (head fixes and mushroom)
cyan stirrup
That's what's made already?
remote star
And then ill wait until item fixes, because i want people to test both acorn (th...
And then release the demo
remote star
That's what's made already?
Basically the demo is 85% done
cyan stirrup
Lesgoo
crimson dome
Nice, so will you be releasing the demo today?
remote star
Maybe
cyan stirrup
jpg64, could you do that Ibis paint tutorial to make tilesets?
You could put it in #1207793065524199455
crimson dome
Public resources is not for sharing tutorials, it's for sharing assets for people to use them in their hacks
remote star
1-2
2-2
3-train
5-tank
3-ship
3-2
4-3
5-3
5-1
Those are the levels that will be in the demo
Now i need to setup level intros
edgy heron
btw outta curiosity have u added luigi back/do u plan to since u now know that the luigi models wont take vram while mario's models are loaded
remote star
I dont really plan adding him back
neon kernel
1-2
2-2
3-train
5-tank
3-ship
3-2
4-3
5-3
5-1
jpg please change that 2-2 bg
π
theres way too many volcanos
floral hemlock
jpg please change that 2-2 bg
imo it's good, I personally just don't like the closests volcanos but rest of it is very good
remote star
theres way too many volcanos
Thats the point, the world is literally a frozen volcano valley π
neon kernel
it would make sense if the mountains were up front
and the volcanos were in the back
remote star
It kinda is tho
neon kernel
you gotta admit the fading mountains are tuff tho
π
also having the mountains as objects in the bg or outright removing them would MASSIVELY reduce lag
in w3
nvm no it doesnt
remote star
It seens a desmume shit because on drastic It dont lag
neon kernel
its not desmume
remote star
Test on melon ds then
For me on both it dont lag
-# tho i have a fucking nasa phone π
neon kernel
the game outright refuses to start on melon.
i tried my modified latest and my unmodified latest roms
trail vapor
not really a fan of this worldmap texture actually
neon kernel
jpg this is by far
the most improvable wm texture youve done (last review was harsh ngl)
i strongly advise making the squares equal contrast and having less similar colors to mario
remote star
Tho this demo is not meant to have consistent world maps like in ssmb
remote star
Tho this demo is not meant to have consistent world maps like in ssmb
Its focused more in having a harsh worldmap than cute worldmaps like in ssmb
trail vapor
you could probably give it some sakura-ish theme to represent the theme of the hack?
neon kernel
you could probably give it some sakura-ish theme to represent the theme of the h...
"thats what the pink is for"
trail vapor
or at least make either the uv-mapping or the model better?
remote star
you could probably give it some sakura-ish theme to represent the theme of the h...
Tbf at this point the hack is not too sakura anymore
trail vapor
"thats what the pink is for"
i meant with actual lands and a background
neon kernel
Tbf at this point the hack is not too sakura anymore
you should rename it then
to sm like
"NSMB: The Missing Lands" (probably kjsakdsancli approved)
trail vapor
Tbf at this point the hack is not too sakura anymore
still would be nice to have it as the worldmap theme of the demo
trail vapor
maybe idk
neon kernel
I could use the old worlmap 6 theme as a map for the demo
best idea
i have a new world name idea too
"NSMB: Sopa de Macaco"
remote star
Not the super acorn land π
remote star
"NSMB: Sopa de Macaco"
Best hack name fr fr
neon kernel
Not the super acorn land π
definetly change the textures to make sense
remote star
Cool texture
neon kernel
proper transparency would be nice tho
trail vapor
new hack name: Acorn Super Mario Bro.
neon kernel
we already have NSMBUDS
remote star
Acorn super acorn acorn
neon kernel
para xiaomi ofc
trail vapor
new hack name: Acorn Super Mario Bro.
(Bro. instead of Bros. because JPG64 decided to ditch Luigi because "he kills vram")
crimson dome
Tho this demo is not meant to have consistent world maps like in ssmb
That doesn't mean you shouldn't put more effort in the worldmap, and imma be honest, I agree with Bester and Mosquito, I don't like how that worldmap looks at all
crimson dome
Tbf at this point the hack is not too sakura anymore
at this point just rename your hack JPG
shy wraith
<:cripplingdepression:481568192842694656> at this point just rename your hack JP...
think he intended to at one point.
edgy heron
Changed the whole map shit just to give that feeling of a "matrix"
tbh im not too big of a fan of this wm... it feels too ''strong'' in the sense that its too sensitive for the human eye, and in general it still doesnt feel too pleasing for me regardless
i think maybe you could go for something like the mushroom/flower worlds from nsmb2
neon kernel
i suggested him to extend the world star map or sm
elder crystal
Jpg I know you love making worldmaps but it would probably be best just to use the world 1 wm or a variation of it
edgy heron
tbh im not too big of a fan of this wm... it feels too ''strong'' in the sense ...
theres no pressure with the demo, you can take your time to make the wm as great as you want and release the demo when you think its ready
crimson dome
I would just use the first worldmap as Will said
remote star
Jpg I know you love making worldmaps but it would probably be best just to use t...
I already made a better one
I think i making a new map makes the mod feel more "efforted"
trail vapor
tbh im not too big of a fan of this wm... it feels too ''strong'' in the sense ...
i think maybe you could go for something like the mushroom/flower worlds from nsmb2
i thought about doing this too (but forgot to say it somehow)
trail vapor
I already made a better one
nice! it looks kinda empty tho
(probably me being too used to overdecorated stuff for some reason )
also why are the nodes literally floating above the ground?
remote star
also why are the nodes literally floating above the ground?
I forgot to rise the map a bit up lmao
remote star
I forgot to rise the map a bit up lmao
Fixed btw
remote star
New clown car; make it rainbow or nah?
-# i know its just a decimated version of the nsmb2 clown car no need to kill me
fickle sphinx
On the final battle mario will use that
whacha intedn to makeyhe final battle like
trail vapor
the textures (mouth, propeller, and green borders) are a bit dark
tho it's pretty nice
remote star
whacha intedn to makeyhe final battle like
FINAL BATTLE SPOILER ||Bowser will be on a clown car, then bowser jr will come in another clown car, you need to kill Jr when bowser goes off screen (so you cant hit him) when you kill Jr, you pick the clown car, then bowser will apear again, and the screen will start auto scrooling, until theres no more floor, then bowser will throw some stuff (hammers, spiked balls, and bob ombs (mechakoopa)) and you will need to grab mecha koopas and throw on bowser||
It will have 3 phases
remote star
It will have 3 phases
spoiler ||Phase 1:
Smw like battle, throwing 6 mechakoopas on him (yet on the top of the castle)
Phase 2:
Jr will come, and you will battle him throwing shells on him (yet in the castle top)
Phase 3:
You will jump on Jr clown car, then bowser will apear, then the screen will start autoscrolling (keep controling the clown car otherwise you will fall when bowser exit the castle top) and after that i explained||
trail vapor
okay then, seems fun
remote star
kinda sounds like [ANOTHER HACK SPOILER] ||the newer wii thing||
Theres some diferences tho:
Bowser is on a airship
Theres 2 different battles
fickle sphinx
spoiler ||Phase 1:
Smw like battle, throwing 6 mechakoopas on him (yet on the to...
ar||e you planning on making it so mario can throw upward||
remote star
You will grab it, then when you release Y it will get kicked all the way in front, so you need to aim on bowser
If youre holding Y and a bobomb touches mario he will automatically grab it
So its easier
On the clown car u need to hit him 10 times
With mecha koopas
Then he will fall, mario will freeze in the air on the clown car, play the boss key victory animation, and then the credits
remote star
Not yet
Ill only ask for it when i finish the w5 final castle and go to the boss area tho
fickle sphinx
gotcha
edgy heron
eughetrhehf now i wanna draw my own powerups considering the ones I did last month π..
these look cute tho
tropic hound
I really like the acorn
remote star
Yea it looks pretty good and pretty original too!
frozen cove
What About The Shuriken Plant? Is It Scrapped?
remote star
It turned into the shuriken acorn
frozen cove
Oh Okay. Is The Shuriken Acorn Magenta?
remote star
Yea
neon kernel
It turned into the shuriken acorn
*amalgamation from sopa de macaco
frozen cove
Thatβs Okay. Im Fine With That. But I Hope The Shuriken Plant Will Be Added In The Sequel That I Will Predict. The Sequel Will Be Made By My Prediction After You Finished Making Sakura Super Mario Bros.
remote star
Also, final boss phase 3 theme
https://youtu.be/Z9StmL-Ub3g?si=XLb6couxhbMpCAkk
remote star
Also, final boss phase 3 theme
https://youtu.be/Z9StmL-Ub3g?si=XLb6couxhbMpCAkk
Phase 1 and 2 will be regular castle boss theme from ssmb
Actually, that version
Nah the player dont work for midi π
NAAHHHH
remote star
The flower and acorn looks so cute omg π₯Ί
sweet owl
Also, final boss phase 3 theme
https://youtu.be/Z9StmL-Ub3g?si=XLb6couxhbMpCAkk
How do u know u are even getting a custom final boss?
Bosses are so much work
I have been putting off finishing Roy for ages lol
remote star
How do u know u are even getting a custom final boss?
I dont know if i will, but idrk if ill ask that boss, or a smw like final boss
sweet owl
will it work on real hardware?
remote star
Ill need someone to test it since my bootstrap is glitchy, but i think it does work
elder crystal
I can test for you
remote star
Ohh thanks!! ^^
pallid shale
(Yes, demo releases today)
Give
edgy heron
gonna try it out in a few mins, just finished breakfast
remote star
Im playing the levels here, im almost finishing it lol
remote star
-# But why not just upload it here instead of Google Docs
Look at the filesize
crimson dome
Ah true
pallid shale
grr darn mods wiht their pinning capabilities
crimson dome
Cry about it π«΅
fickle sphinx
Ok
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jv7nj8wASEkLWe9Mx6CWgc92zsJfyF13/view?usp=dr...
put it on nsmbhd uploder
pallid shale
problem: I dont use windows and am too lazy to set wine up properly
crimson dome
@remote star your patch does not work, xdelta is giving invalid input errors
And yes, I used an USA rom
remote star
Weird
edgy heron
jpg which xdelta patcher did you use
edgy heron
<@1211977520354824203>
was it this
remote star
Yea
edgy heron
jpg which xdelta patcher did you use
(to create the patch)
remote star
Yup
crimson dome
Are you 100% sure you used a clean rom?
remote star
I just downloaded a rom and patched it
edgy heron
im gonna try patching it
pallid shale
I just downloaded a rom and patched it
Uh Oh
PIRACY?????
Im gonan have to ban you for that.
remote star
π¨
crimson dome
I just downloaded a rom and patched it
Can you show a screenshot of the rom?
crimson dome
I just wanna make sure he used a clean rom
pallid shale
yeah yeah Im joking
remote star
remote star
If you search nsmb ds rom usa its the first one that apears
pallid shale
yeah
fickle sphinx
difference in calculating size of mb i think
remote star
hold on 32 mb?
isnt it supposed to be 33
Zarchiver rounds the numbers of the file
remote star
Zarchiver rounds the numbers of the file
So if its 33 it will put 32 or 34
pallid shale
ah
remote star
Never 31 or 33
pallid shale
you arent supposed to round down on 6 though its supposed to round up
remote star
Yea ik
edgy heron
ok so
remote star
Zarchiver is just dumb
edgy heron
i tried x delta ui and it errores
but
I tried the patcher will sent for illy and it seems to work
itβs not done yet but itβs patching
remote star
Ohhh
pallid shale
what patcher
edgy heron
uhh hold on I need to reopen discord
pallid shale
π§
remote star
@crimson dome pin it when he send
crimson dome
<@1212041303626350663> pin it when he send
I'm trying to look for it
And please, do not ping me like that
remote star
Oki
pallid shale
deltarune
fickle sphinx
difference in calculating size of mb i think
here we go
remote star
Ztar pin it π₯Ί
pallid shale
here we go
interesting
fickle sphinx
<@1211977520354824203>
if you used this patcger it shoudl also work with this patcher
pallid shale
welp time to get wine to work
i do not know hwo to use commandline xdelta via homebrew so Err.
and it keeps freezing anyways
Wait wineskin exists i forgot
Hell yeah im not cooked
remote star
Pin the patcher
remote star
Next time please use normal xdelta <:grrr:1112116179683782727>
Oki π s
shy wraith
Next time please use normal xdelta <:grrr:1112116179683782727>
your no fun
crimson dome
Pin the patcher
I will if you ask it nicely
shy wraith
I will if you ask it nicely
good sir, may you, as a moderator, do the thing where you pin the program know as the patcher which is used to patch a rom of a ds game called "new super mario bros."?
pallid shale
G
Input Input Input Input Input
βοΈ G Input Input Input
fickle sphinx
oh looking at the oins jpeg you need to update da list
remote star
I will if you ask it nicely
Pin the patcher plis i beg you plis plis π₯Ί
remote star
What do you think about it
crimson dome
I've only played the first level, and overall the level design is pretty nice, I'd just do some minor changes here and there, but the rest is fine
Also, you should try to place less enemies and more powerups, I game over'd already 
fickle sphinx
bad at videogames
edgy heron
LMAO SAME
i died like 4 times trying to get the 2nd star coin in 1-1 π
(technically 1-2 but u get what I mean)
nah but so far the hack looks very great
edgy heron
acorn is sick, will did a great job coding it and the models look good aswell
pallid shale
where hammer bros
shy wraith
where hammer bros
banned for implying ztardust has skill issue || /j||
remote star
where hammer bros
I couldn't get hid of them so they apear randomly
remote star
floating muncher
NOOO
pallid shale
I couldn't get hid of them so they apear randomly
oh
edgy heron
where the 3rd star coin in 1-2 π
remote star
But in levels i think they dont apear
remote star
where the 3rd star coin in 1-2 π
Its in a pipe
remote star
Its in a pipe
Actually the one you collected (the bamboo ones) is the 3rd one
remote star
Since it makes the acorn fair, and not too op
remote star
Since it makes the acorn fair, and not too op
Aince you can already throw shurikens that kill some enemies
pallid shale
acorn more like mid
edgy heron
lying face react this NOW!
pallid shale
Make acorn ROLL.
remote star
Make acorn ROLL.
Ill ask William this later, this is for sure needed
pallid shale
10 second uunderground section on 1-2 is peak
remote star
Yea lol
pallid shale
Gonna play this with pro controller
remote star
YO TRUE PLAYING WITH CONTROL IS SO GOOD
edgy heron
or make the text have outline
also jpg I think u forgot to limit the view (unless itβs intentional) in 1-4, I entered the pipe too late and it put me offscreen which made me softlock lmao
well actually no the lava rose but still
crimson dome
In the space tank level, you should lower the jumping entrance near the exit, you clip through the ceiling in that part
edgy heron
tbh literally the only thing Iβm disliking about the hack is the enemy spam with low powerups (especially with lack of reserve..) lmao, everything else is great
remote star
In the space tank level, you should lower the jumping entrance near the exit, yo...
Yea i saw that, i fixed it
Wich areas i could remove some enemies?
Ill remove some enemies from level here
crimson dome
All of the levels I've played have an exaggerated amount of enemies and very few powerups, which makes the levels really hard, you shouldn't really place enemies everywhere, a few of them are fine
And some other enemies are placed in very unpredictable places, which makes it really hard to dodge them
fickle sphinx
sorta wanna try this but i dont have the storage space to download the patch
would anyone wanna make a patch for me with the nwavs dummied out
i dont play with sound usually anyway
remote star
Im checking level per level to remove spam
crimson dome
would anyone wanna make a patch for me with the nwavs dummied out<:Boozy:1303060...
I thought JPG wanted to get rid of the NWAV's and replace them with SSEQ's, but I don't see any single SSEQ in this demo, not even the SSEQ's I've made for him
remote star
In the demo i didn't useed but in the full hack theyre here
Only 3 sseqs in the demo
edgy heron
would anyone wanna make a patch for me with the nwavs dummied out<:Boozy:1303060...
i Can give it a try
(my storage is dying too dw π€)
remote star
^
remote star
Istg i didn't even remembered about the jump when doing the hack
Only the glide jump
(That is the main abilitty, as u said)
fair geode
Bro uploaded the demo soon as I went to school
edgy heron
-# now we wait till will makes the powerup making template and I mod all my powerups in the game /j
fair geode
Can someone make a playthrogh of the demo
elder crystal
did you remove the nwavs used in the levels that aren't available in the demo? cause 400mb seems a bit absurd
remote star
Yea
crimson dome
Can someone make a playthrogh of the demo
Was planning on making a playthrough on my secondary channel at some point
fair geode
did you remove the nwavs used in the levels that aren't available in the demo? c...
Does it break anything if it's too high?
crimson dome
You could try opening the rom in EFE and save it to reduce the rom's size a bit
remote star
It crashes when i save
elder crystal
yeah it even crashed when I tried modifying his rom with EFE and my pc is actually good
EFE is ass
elder crystal
jpeg you call anything that doesnt work for you ass<:cripplingdepression:4815681...
it genuinely is though
outdated and insanely buggy
remote star
We need efe 2
Or a efe on nsmbe
Where we can create and delete fils
Files
Added more powerup blocks to levels
Removed enemy spam too
Now the mod should be less hard
elder crystal
24.5mb for a single nwav??? surely you could've compressed it better or cut it and looped it??
remote star
24.5mb for a single nwav??? surely you could've compressed it better or cut it a...
Older nwavs wasnt compresseds in ssmb π
Tho im replacing a lot of them with compressed and looping versions
elder crystal
yeah you really need to
remote star
Btw, remember the code for retexturing spike tops? U could edit it so spike tops on w3 dont rotate when going through a wall? Im making the sun enemy from smw for 3-B (tunderstorm level)
Actually
Not needed
I remember now that they also rotate in smw :p
edgy heron
bro
elder crystal
π
remote star
HOW YOU MANAGED TO GET THE FILESIZE TO GO DOWN???
elder crystal
ssmb on that ozempic
edgy heron
HOW YOU MANAGED TO GET THE FILESIZE TO GO DOWN???
i just replaced every non-empty nwav with an empty nwav lmao
tho that was in nsmbe
i had to open it again but with efe so that it changed the filesize cause nsmbe didnt
remote star
What is a y bilboard?
edgy heron
these sseqs sound sick
crimson dome
Lmfao, I paused the game and it crashed π
edgy heron
you forgor to nuke the nwavs π
oh btw it still doesnt run on melon even with the nwavs nuked incase some of yall thought it might fix it
fair geode
So it doesn't work on console?
edgy heron
i mean idk if anyone tested on console yet
but ima send the nwavless patch cause that one might make it more likely to work
the nwav one takes up too much
crimson dome
I wanted to test it on my DS, but I'm not downloading a 400MB rom on my DS 
Btw, I finished the demo already
edgy heron
fair geode
I can't test it rn
shy wraith
Lmfao, I paused the game and it crashed π
crimson dome
Btw, I finished the demo already
Thoughts? It was nice, the level design it's really good, just needs some minor improvements here and there, and you should seriously reduce the amount of enemies, other than that, it was nice
shy wraith
will play it tommorow.
crimson dome
shy wraith
might upload it to youtube.
edgy heron
Thoughts? It was nice, the level design it's really good, just needs some minor ...
also ditto, i havent finished it yet (im like 2 levels away but i need to get some starcoins in some of them) but this are my current thoughts aswell
crimson dome
I got all the star coins except for the second one in the last level
remote star
Wheres the second one
crimson dome
Bro doesn't even remember his own levels
remote star
Mosquito made the level tho π
crimson dome
Also, I would heavily recommend you to extend the floor 4 tiles below the view like this so the players can walljump against the wall in case they fall
remote star
Can i spoiler it to you?
remote star
Also, I would heavily recommend you to extend the floor 4 tiles below the view l...
The space levels dont have wall jumps
crimson dome
I know, it was just an example
remote star
Can i spoiler it to you?
Its in the ||checkpoint area||
elder crystal
tried it with nds-bootstrap
it does boot, surprisingly
but it crashes before the titlescreen
fickle sphinx
i should be able to test the nwavless vers on a flashcart in an hour or so
crimson dome
but it crashes before the titlescreen
Did you test the NWAV or the NWAVless one?
pallid shale
Its in the ||checkpoint area||
||a c6b
edgy heron
but it crashes before the titlescreen
yeah the booting up works but right after the credits for the nsmbc members n such it crashes on melon
elder crystal
Did you test the NWAV or the NWAVless one?
with nwav
trail vapor
meanwhile me still being outside for over 5 hours and y'all enjoying the demo... ;-;
maybe i'm gonna try it this weekend or something
edgy heron
-# that just states you have a life and we dont
trail vapor
no this means i have school with a crappy school system that has up to 9 hours in a single day
(today it was 7)
remote star
remote star
I think ill scrap 5-3 cave level and make a silhuete level for w5, what yall think?
trail vapor
could be interesting but please don't replace 5-3 (the one with spike tops?)
