New++ Super Mario Bros

[fossil token]

LMAO, the unused koopa model has an option to not have the shell on

this is what they normaly look like

[wide furnace]

i feel like that's just a leftover from sm64ds

also it would be nice for smw-like koopas

[fossil token]

yeah

it stil is cool though

the feet spikes are annoying me but thats probs just an emulator thing

[wide furnace]

yes

[fossil token]

the thing that sucks is they dont have a bah bah animation

[wide furnace]

doesn't the 2d sprite just turn to the other direction slightly for it?

though yeah with a 3d model, an animation would have worked better i think

[fossil token]

I do have an idea on what I could do for it

[fossil token]

need to change the angle a bit more so my colourblind ass can tell the diffrence between red and green

its easier to tell but it kinda changes the feel

[fossil token]

lmao

im trying to make them all in the same model

[lapis lark]

who gave those koopas a star

[fossil token]

I wanna add a fourth koopa colour

what should it be?

[lapis lark]

pink or purple because theyre cool

im not biased at all

[fossil token]

I already did like a magenta as a place holder lol

[lapis lark]

https://tenor.com/view/peak-its-so-peak-praying-hands-praying-black-guy-gif-9969548697603007069

[mental slate]

Hey what

I want four shell colors

How did you do that

[candid magnet]

You could add Orange or White

[fossil token]

not gonna do anymore

dont wanna use to much ram

[candid magnet]

okay

[mental slate]

You could have them have different winter or underground palettes

Wouldn’t use any more ram and the game is already set up to do that

[civic cloud]

Oh yeah that's true, same art style for both games so this works

[civic cloud]

Do you think Nintendo intended them to function like SMW Koopas at some point? Or maybe this is just the result of then basing the model on SM64DS?

[civic cloud]

Oh we thought the same thing hahaha

[fossil token]

I think maybe, I dont see why else the .nsbva would even be in the files

that files allows you to set up an animation control to remove the shell

[civic cloud]

Makes sense, empty shells are in the game after all, imo stomping on the blue Koopa in multiplayer should've ejected him from his shell since you can wear it

[fossil token]

yeah

im trying to come up with the logic for how the red koopas dont walk of edges

this is kinda hard

[tranquil zodiac]

Oh wow awesome

[fossil token]

got the turn around

[fossil token]

damn, these shes looks nice

I love the way this looks

[fossil token]

setting up the shell through states and stuff is a nightmare

[fossil token]

Why do things thrown by the player stop collision

I hate this

[fossil token]

These rainbow koopas are cool, gonna take note of them

[civic cloud]

Dope

[mental slate]

Disco shell in nsmb?? 👀

Would add to my hack for sure

[north garnet]

Now the Koopas are fully 3D, I take it you're gonna add a Koopa dance anim?

https://tenor.com/view/bah-bah-gif-27501766

[north garnet]

Context: Illy's download link joke this time is that she'll put a wombat under your bedsheets if you ask for a download link.

[lapis lark]

i want a wombat too

theyre so cute

[civic cloud]

Fr

Illy add a wombat powerup 🔥🔥🔥

[fossil token]

Not when you leave food in a tent and then they rip open the tent in the middle of the night to steal ur food

[civic cloud]

This sounds rather specific LMAO

[analog oracle]

this is like those glowing shy guys/eggs from yoshi’s island

[lapis lark]

speaking from experience for sure 😭

[fossil token]

it happend to one of my friends for a school camp years back lol

[fossil token]

solved the shell stuff

im just an idiot

[fossil token]

this layout seams familiar :3

larrys tower B side room 1 btw

damn these look nice without the spikes

[wide furnace]

idk if you feel like editing the model, but if you can, maybe you could edit the arms so they "fold" at the elbow, like in the original game?
-# right now they kinda look like sticks 😭 /j

[fossil token]

cant

or else the .nsbva will break

[wide furnace]

crap then

[fossil token]

I kinda like it

it looks like they are carlessly swaying their arms as they walk

[wide furnace]

true lol

[fossil token]

I love how there is just 3 larry arenas here

[fossil token]

Crackhead crackhead larry is insane

gonna do the level showcase soon, just waiting for the vid to render

[lapis lark]

we should start powerscaling New++ B Side bosses

i think Crackhead Crackhead Larry no diffs Homelander

[fossil token]

I used all my reserve powerups in the fight lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIurgAsG1OM

[lapis lark]

living beyblade

https://tenor.com/view/beyblade-darius-jonathan-anime-gif-18632472

[civic cloud]

Which would be consistent with Dry Bones in that game, so ig that's fine

[candid magnet]

This boss fight is unfair 😭

[fossil token]

thats the point

its a B side

[candid magnet]

ohh

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-of-course-ohhhh-oh-that-makes-sense-gif-11896286840118452668

[fossil token]

bugsssssss, polishing actors takes so long

also, if I do end up doing multiplayer, im gonna make these guys all become 2d koopas

so there will be code that switches them out if its multiplayer/not multiplayer

Still gotta do big koopas and parakoopas

Also the reason I didn’t end up doing the smw style loop as is cause I’m likely gonna have to make some changes to the model so the .nsbva will be broken

[fossil token]

you can probably guess why the soopas die when they hit the blocks from this image

also another question, should the hitbox be the size that I have it, or should it be a bit smaller like the normal koopa?

[mental slate]

Mario enemies should be short in general imo

[fossil token]

im gonna make it smaller

the actaul shell uses a different active collider btw

[mental slate]

Everyone is a rectangle so it can sometimes feel awkward if you jump towards an enemy and you think you’ll jump over it, but you were actually too close and you collide with it in midair

[fossil token]

good point

I think this size is good

[mental slate]

Yeah

[fossil token]

now time to code in the big koopas

:3

[fossil token]

big koopas are down and now they are almost big free

last thing is shell collisions, aka making shells kill things

[fossil token]

I think I found what I need

[warped briar]

Probably best to just stick with the hitbox sizes of the original game

[wide furnace]

wait did you redo the B-side? or i'm probably being confused with the secret exit

also wow timewarp trigger (lag because of too many koopa models at once)

and why the hell is Larry using hyperspeed cheats 😭

[wide furnace]

are you just gonna reuse the original ones for that?

also i would suggest making the shell shake before the koopa wakes up

[rich palm]

The Poison Mushroom gave me massive I HATE YOU vibes

[fossil token]

No, the secret exit is a recreation of the first part of Iggys castle

[fossil token]

Yeah, need to remove two koopas to the right on the six 3x3 fences

Smw got away with the spam cause they are all sprites :p

Or I can optimise rhe time piece model since those are high poly

[fossil token]

1. Yeah
2. Good point, I originally had the loop get out a lol bit and start shaking but the animation wasn’t cantered so it looked bad, will just make the shell shake though

[stoic sapphire]

@fossil token Has this been a complicated project or is it mostly just straightforward coding? Seeing its almost its 2 year annivrsary of production

Like im curious if youve made major breakthroughs

[fossil token]

It’s been four years :p

The thread didn’t exist back then since this server was dead

[stoic sapphire]

OHHH
okay 4

Alright sorry for the i dint know!!

[fossil token]

The completion of this project is really kinda weird, I would say it’s about at 40% though

[stoic sapphire]

Idk all of the custom stuff captures my attention

[stoic sapphire]

Okay, neat
I mean i would assume trying to be nintendo as 1 person would require some dedicated time XD

[lapis lark]

almost half a decade of making peak

[wide furnace]

so i did get confused with the secret exit then

[fossil token]

is one of these koopas red and one green?

if so that means they are both using the same texture just with a pal offset

so these guys will be way more optimal

hue shifted the image and it looks like it was red, that means I can just have like 16 koopa colours in one model lol

I might do it

[wide furnace]

for a bit i didn't understand what you were asking, until realizing it's because you're colorblind.

yes the two on the bottom are, but only their shells, not their shoes

[fossil token]

Yeah, they are a different parts of the model which I need to do the shift for separately

Thanks for pointing out the shoes

[wide furnace]

you're welcome!!

[fossil token]

this is so weird to see

just hex edited to make the pal like this

yeah I can see the shoes with the blue and magenta

[wide furnace]

okay

also are you planning on making the disco yellow koopas from smw? or not sure yet maybe?

[fossil token]

Maybe

If I do that they will flicker between some of the palettes

[wide furnace]

yeah that could work

[cold badge]

This Is going to be peak

[cold badge]

Isn't there a beta?

[olive owl]

There is a demo pinned but it’s a little dated

[lapis lark]

Old--

[fathom kraken]

I'm old!

[fossil token]

I finallt have some free time, think im try and make a sewer tile set, well reuse the exsisting one and add stuff to it

[fossil token]

slowly cutting up this tile set and reorganising it to make more space is pain

[wraith gust]

If you want I can give you my optimized version of this tileset, the amount of unnecessary duplicate objects this tileset has is crazy

[fossil token]

that would be nice

thank you

[fossil token]

yay, code patching on linux

just need compile in terminal cause nsmbe shit code reasons

[fossil token]

came up with new type of underground level theme

void

black liqud, everything else grey and dark and made of bones

kinda pulling some inspo from "the abyss" from hollow night, "greymoor" from silksong as well as the e3 underground cave theme

also came up with the idea of smth called the "void flower"

[lapis lark]

https://tenor.com/view/let-her-cook-gif-3479906673053749087

[civic cloud]

Neat concept, can't wait to see it

[patent ivy]

villager comming in new++????????

[fossil token]

this is going alright

skulls and bones are hard to draw

gonna use my exsisting underground tile set as a base I think

or maybe the vanilla one

idk

[fossil token]

im tryna find a way to make this horizontal bone look more solid on top

since its a semi solid

hmm

maybe I could leave them like that and have them as a solid though

[wide furnace]

yeah you could do that

or make it similar to how it is in mario maker (tho it looks more like a spine with some kind of ribcage)

[iron igloo]

reminds me of Land of the Livid Dead from Rayman Origins lol

[fossil token]

Im taking inspo from "The abyss" from hollow knight, but I see where ur comming from

anyways finally decided on this

and I think I got a new obsession with these 1x2 slopes lol

[fossil token]

yeah ended up doing that for a semi solid

[wide furnace]

okay

i just don't like the bone slopes tho... they look unnaturally stretched

[fossil token]

they are stretched like that as a place holder until I draw those parts

[wide furnace]

okay then

[mortal arrow]

I don't know, but the first thing I thought of when I saw that was Undertale (?

[wraith gust]

I'm kinda surprised that nobody mentioned Super Mario World, those bones remind me of it

[polar fjord]

i don’t like the black

[polar fjord]

dumas

sorry for ping

it's instinct

[lapis lark]

i like the black

[polar fjord]

it's very bland

[lapis lark]

idk man "abyss" doesnt sound very vibrant

[polar fjord]

no

i mean like

the inside blocks would just be black, that's very boring

[fossil token]

is that any diffrent from the normal undergound tile set being all blue?

also its not gonna be just all black

[polar fjord]

i don't even like the normal tileset

[lapis lark]

i see where ur coming from

[polar fjord]

yay

[fossil token]

and anyways, its not even done, and the whole point is its drained of colour besides a very few things, the black is gonna have rocks and bones in it that are grey

I really want the glow of a few things to pop as much as it can

just wait until I finish up the whole theme before you say to much

[polar fjord]

ok

[fossil token]

the top of these bone slopes look like bat cheeks

I think I wont do the bottom slopes

I shouldnt need them

[north garnet]

Couldn't you make the bone slopes with one diagonal bone? Would probs look better than distorted rows of bones.

[fossil token]

those horizontal bones are another type of platform

they are the ones at the top right here

[north garnet]

Yeah, such a bone, rotated so it's diagonal.

[fossil token]

ad im not gonna do that cause its another type of platoform

[wide furnace]

it was actually my first thought when i saw them

[north garnet]

Oh, I get you. You want to avoid confusion.

[fossil token]

yeah, and also cause it will be weird to just slope down one or two tiles like that

like you could do one of those on an angle and have full bones under it, but it will also take up a lot more tile space

[rich palm]

I feel like the bones embedded in the ground could have more of a ribcage-y look if that makes sense

The bottom bit being sharper, I mean

[fossil token]

They aren’t meant to be rib cages

That what the semi solids are

[fossil token]

dont mind the missing bottom solid tiles that are replaced with whaever that jink is cause I forgot to set it up

[rich palm]

Fair

[fossil token]

I still need to do black lava, a bg and get an emulator to work properly on linux

[wide furnace]

black lava? oh you said it was void

-# why does it remind me of (spoiler) ||black space|| from omori...

[lapis lark]

mario and the ink machine

[rich palm]

I am super hyped for this

The black lava idea, combined with how it looks, sounds really cool

[fathom kraken]

I really like the "void" idea, but those dry bowser renders look a little out of place

[rich palm]

It does kinda clash, come think of it

[fossil token]

Yeah it’s a tiny clash, need to draw my own in the same style

Creating a tile set for a theme that hasn’t been done before is really hard

[fathom kraken]

Yeah, I understand

[fossil token]

Just got melon ds working on nixos and damn

this is looking good in game

I think the bowser skulls will work if I kinda make crystals around them or smth

and it looks like I have set code patching up wrong cause the remodel isnt being applied

[polar fjord]

the bones have a bit of a gray outline and it looks kinda weird

[fossil token]

that is because its not meant to be used with that background

[polar fjord]

these

[fossil token]

the idea is that it will make it looks less harsh

[fossil token]

thats just it being unfinished lol

[polar fjord]

oh

well

it's cool

[fossil token]

yeah, gonna do more work on it after my exam

[polar fjord]

lowk looks cool with the blue bg

[fossil token]

I wanted to try out black lava, and I thought it would work but for some reason it isnt getting imported into the game

[fossil token]

yeah, I might keep a small amount of blue in it

[lapis lark]

https://tenor.com/view/ink-machine-gif-8646453192179172097

[fossil token]

im compiling in such a cursed way, sudo ln /bin/sh /bin/bash im using this command to get my device to stopcaring about some stuff basically

[polar fjord]

very plain

i think the lava should be a different color

ik it's supposed to be like a void

but like

it just looks boring

[fossil token]

Do you not understand that it’s not finished

And also that the whole point is that it is colourless

[polar fjord]

[wide furnace]

pro tip: a lot of the time that something looks wrong in what Illy showcases of New++, there's a high chance that it's because it's unfinished. so as yourself the question "is it like that because it's unfinished?"

still better to point things out sometimes just in case though

[fossil token]

messing around with the bowser skull

[wide furnace]

reminds me of some recurring nightmares i used to have. especially the colors. it was meant to be some kind of representation of death or something

[lapis lark]

how i be feeling before the 3am water

[fossil token]

okay, so, I think the in ground bowser skull needs some work, but the one which sits on top of ground is pretty solid

[fossil token]

bowser skulls are starting to look better

yes, im doing this instead of revising quotes for the exam I hhave in an hour

[lapis lark]

good luck 😭

well, if anything
relieving stress by doing things you enjoy might help you do better

[fossil token]

also did the other skulls

[fossil token]

I think after my exam ima rip this bg and turn the rocks into skulls or smth

[fossil token]

some screenshot

[fossil token]

drawing stalgtites is hard

[fossil token]

omg

those tiny lines in the bg from me making mistakes

[polar fjord]

the bg colors are a bit off

[wraith gust]

[fossil token]

cause its unfinished and it isnt meant to look like the defult bg

[polar fjord]

[fossil token]

If you don’t like smth i don’t care, if u think smth can be improved say how

At least give constructive criticism

[fossil token]

I need to find a way to change the particals that these guys spawn

[fossil token]

Honestly might rewrite thw whole retexture code for these guys

gonna reinstall ghidra on this laptop and give it a try, as well as changing the particals

also, Im pretty sure I can make them bounce in water and posion pretty easily from last time I checked them

yeah right here

if anybody needs them to jump out of non lava I can code it

some people like to do poison podaboos and stuff

[fossil token]

I ended up trying a particle swap but I ended up just making it spawn no particles

might try to do it in asm instead of c++ tmr

[fossil token]

level tiling pain

[wide furnace]

level tiling my beloved

i think it's one of my favorite parts of making levels

having to be creative with it, making details, and such

[fossil token]

Yeah lmao

I love it

But sometimes my tile sets have just way to much

So it’s a pain

And this one doesn’t even have bg rocks yet

[fossil token]

gonna write a retexture code for these lifts that I currently have as bridges so I can make them bones

[fossil token]

got it

ncp_call(0x0217dcc0, 88)
    LDR        R0, =0x02088BFC
    LDR        R0, [R0]
    CMP        R0, #4
    LDREQ           R0, =2499 - 131
    BXEQ            LR
    LDR             R0, =0x4ee
    BX              LR

ncp_call(0x0217e2b0, 88)
    LDR        R4, =0x02088BFC
    LDR        R4, [R4]
    CMP        R4, #4
    LDREQ           R4, =2499 - 131
    BXEQ            LR
    LDR             R4, =0x4ee
    BX              LR

[polar fjord]

If you don’t care, then don’t respond.
and I did in fact give constructive criticism—for the tileset. I literally pointed out the main issue, it’s very bland and basic. “It’s unfinished” mf I don’t know that; some people will deadass leave it how it is, I’ve met lots of people like that—and I may or may not be one of them.

[analog oracle]

not to be an ass or disrespect him but damn how hilarious it is that he left the server after saying this 😭
I will say though it kinda felt like y’all undermined his credibility over a small comment (still tho he should’ve been more constructive about it)

[analog oracle]

also haven’t kept up much with the thread due to activity but I’ve been seeing this theme and it looks wonderful

[wide furnace]

lmfao what 😭 (responding to first paragraph)

i do agree with the fact that his feedback was very vague and not very constructive though

maybe Illy was a bit harsh with the way she said it. but SMBeanie's reply was far more

[wide furnace]

also wait, is it me or you changed the colors of the cloud tileset to make it look more vibrant? (especially the shading) nice!!

[analog oracle]

‘’It’s unfinished” mf I don’t know that; some people will deadass leave it how it is, I’ve met lots of people like that—and I may or may not be one of them.

I will say tho that this is honestly so true and it gets annoying sometimes, I’ve seen many people just get criticism and disregard it by saying ‘it’s not finished’ ‘still wip’ and wtv, and while it may be a semi valid point, it doesn’t entirely mean u shouldn’t consider what the criticism was, especially when they end up leaving it exactly like how it was

-# didn’t want to continue the convo btw, I just wanted to say this

[wraith gust]

The problem with Beanie's feedback is that he seemed to be criticizing just to criticize, he didn't even bother to suggest how Illy could improve the tileset, and his comments were a bit unreasonable, like bro, if you don't like the original underground tileset, let alone you will like this one, that's why Illy is trying to expand it by adding new details, and criticizing without at least explaining how it can be improved doesn't help at all, maybe Illy didn't pay attention to Beanie's feedback, but he wasn't very reasonable either

[fossil token]

ChatGPT lol

And yeah, I still haven’t even finished drawing the tile set, I’m focusing on exams, and that kid saying to colours are off and I “I don’t like the tile set” does not help me, even more so cause I’m colourblind

Well I got two exams today so ima be at school from 8.30 to 6.00, this is gonna be hell

[candid magnet]

wait what 💀 💀 💀

[mental slate]

Interesting

[fossil token]

I can explain why later, there is so many reasons lol

Anyways

Just finished first exam, gotta go get food and then study for the seccond one later today

[fossil token]

$6.50 chicken schnitzel sandwich from coles, (aussie super marker) and grapefruit monster makes a good lunch after an exam as you wait for another exam

might try to draw some background tiles and improve some colours on the tile set if I dont feel like revising some math

[rich palm]

My one critique is that the half Dry Bowser head looks slightly off, namely bc his bill (idk the pointy bit of his upper jaw) is missing

It does look great tho

[fossil token]

I was thinking when I drew it that im not gonna do it cause I want it to look lke its really old a broken a bit

I can change it a bit though

anyways, im thinking of ending that level with a dry bowser fight, and im also thinking of adding these guys are a casual enemy

or course it would be nsmb styled if I did though

[wide furnace]

seems a bit complicated as a "casual" enemy. they're basically overpowered hammer bros i think

but i really like the reference

[fossil token]

I also have the urge to fully reverse, and recreate the bowser jr actor to be better and way more customisable

I think that could be a really fun project

[wide furnace]

at this point you're redoing everything just so it can be more customizable 😭

[fossil token]

well, I have decided to have airships/tanks/trains in every world along with the castle and tower, that means I need a somewhat unique jr fight for every world and the shell roll varient I made ages back was really poorly coded

thinking about it

I could make a header for jr and just hook and use that though

school is nearly donw for the year, I have like two weeks left and most of that is just nothing cause exams and I wanna do things over then koopaling fights and level making

Im kinda burnt out on levels as of now, I made to many without watching a stream in the background and now its just a pain

[civic cloud]

OP Hammer Bro is fine, it's like how Chargin' Chuck, Shova and Bulrush have a lot of health

Like as as it's not giant Bowser, you can still jump over him

And that's how Blue Bowser was initially used anyway, looking forward to it

As a generic enemy, I'd have him die in like 5-6 fireball hits, maybe 10 at most

[wide furnace]

also i said as a casual enemy. it's fine to have it once or twice in a level (even 3 times i think), but not having like 10 of them in the same level

[mental slate]

❗

[wide furnace]

just like you probably wouldn't place 10-15 hammer bros (or even sledge bros) in a single level (unless it's a late world level or if it's kinda long)

[mental slate]

Hammer bros suck

Bottom 3 mario enemy gameplay wise

Maybe worst ever

[wide furnace]

they're really annoying yeah

they can be interesting when used right tho

[civic cloud]

Oh yeah ofc I said casual in the sense of a frequency matching other enemies of such difficulty, like the Hammer/Sledge Bros you just mentioned

[civic cloud]

I love Hammer Bros, technically not that hard to get past, but challenging to defeat without powerups, I like having to wait for the right time to jump, in any case they have brick blocks underneath them usually

Sledge Bro is in my top 5 enemies

[wide furnace]

yeah i like when you can defeat them with brick blocks or a shell

[mental slate]

I think that they are too random and their off-cycle is too long

In terms of forced waiting they are a bad offender

Being on top of brick blocks helps but the fact that they’re placed that way is emergent of generally being not great to fight

And the wandering hammer bro in this game is not a good time

Because he appears at the very start of the stage

[fossil token]

They are not that bad, Mario maker 1 just made them seam so much worse then they were

[mental slate]

I can’t think of a less fun enemy

[fossil token]

Boomerang bros

[mental slate]

Definitely not

[fossil token]

In nsmbds they are

In other games not so much

[mental slate]

Boomerang bros fix the biggest issue with hammer bros which is that you need to wait out their cycle in order to interact with them because the hammers go up and get in the way of you trying to jump

[wide furnace]

yeah i hate this one actually

[fossil token]

I don’t like them either

I just plan on getting rid of them

[wide furnace]

i find them more interesting, and kinda easier to avoid. making a vertical section with them could be interesting

[fossil token]

They are not fun to get a powerup from

[wraith gust]

Hammer/Boomerang Bros aren't as bad as you're making them out to be, y'all just have skill issue

[mental slate]

Name a worse enemy then

[wraith gust]

They get easy to dodge once you figure out their timing, they're more annoying in the older games since they're always in very annoying places, and in the case of SMB1, you inmediatly become small if you get hit by an enemy even if you have a fire flower, which makes them even more annoying

[wraith gust]

Jumping cheep cheeps

[mental slate]

DEFINITELY not

[wraith gust]

That's just my opinion

[mental slate]

Jumping cheep cheeps start at the bottom of the screen so they physically can’t interact with mario if he just runs past them in most levels they’re in

Hammer bros are not only forced waiting, they’re RANDOM forced waiting

[fossil token]

Actually yeah, they are awful

[wraith gust]

They're not random, they have a defined pattern, they throw hammers for a while, stop, then jump, it's not that hard to predict, and there are many ways you can dodge their attacks

[mental slate]

For a while

Is the random part

Also they randomly choose if they will walk forward or back

[wraith gust]

Jumping cheep cheeps are way more annoying because as much as you try to avoid them, you can always get hit by one by accident, and they can get really annoying when there are a lot of them in a single level, and the fact that they can respawn and that they're very hard to kill makes them even worse

[mental slate]

The way you fight a hammer bro consistently without a powerup is you wait, and you wait a random amount of time, which should never exist in a platformer

Jumping cheep cheeps will sometimes kill themselves by jumping into mario’s feet so i’m not so sold on them being hard to kill

[wraith gust]

Their timing is not random, most of the time it's usually the same amount of time and it's only a few seconds, it's not like you have to wait an eternity for them to jump either

[wraith gust]

The only way to do that is to position yourself in a place where the cheep cheep just jumps out from under you, which is tedious and imprecise

[fossil token]

This isn’t Mario maker, they stop if they have repeated the same move enough times

[lapis lark]

skill issue

[civic cloud]

Didn't Mario Maker slow them down actually? If I remember correctly they used to keep tossing more aggressively, they'd even jump and toss hammers, now they're pretty harmless when they jump

I have to replay NSMBW

I remember them being particularly aggressive in that game which is why they're in the Yoshi level (he can spit their hammers back at them)

[fossil token]

3d koopa is so annoying to get working

I think I might scrap the idea that they are all in the same model and just pal offsets

making them their own models was way easier

[cold badge]

Beta whennnnnn?

[fathom kraken]

Demo* and there's already one

[civic cloud]

Is the DS capable of handling 3D Koopas or that hasn't been tested yet? Are Goombas also becoming 3D?

[fossil token]

yeah

they are fully functional

goombas are not 3d and idk if i will make em 3d

[civic cloud]

Oh cool, I heard the game would get overwhelmed by its base enemies (Goombas, Koopas and Boos) being 3D and that's why they were sprites despite having in-game models (except for Boo) and that's why they had to be 2D

[fossil token]

The only one that has a model is a the koopa

Also what’s your source?!
It was likely done to be easier on the gpu but every other level runs fine with 3d models

[tepid temple]

in most hacks I've played there have been sections where the creator placed too many enemies with 3d models, which caused the game to very noticeably slow down

[pulsar holly]

🎉 Level Up! 🎉

Congratulations @tepid temple! You've reached a new level!

New Role

You've been given the <@&1093830095866708048> role!

Total EXP

1,001

Keep up the great work!

[fossil token]

Yeah that’s smth I’ll need to be careful of

Happens in Larry’s tower in this hack

I’m probably not gonna do 3d goombas, idk yet though

[civic cloud]

Oh ok I must've misunderstood, I just said that based on what I heard other people say

Also, doesn't Goomba have a model? I remember W4 Giant Goomba being a model

[fossil token]

That’s high poly and was probably only made for the boss fight

Idk for sure though

[fossil token]

I just gotta figure out smth regarding shells not dying upon entity collison and these koopas will be done :3

here it is, time to hope it exsists in my outdated version of the code reference

[fossil token]

the shell hit stuff is done

finally

now I gotta handle the hit sfx chain and stuff

can somebody zip their version of nitro studio 2 deluxe and send it pls, i tried redownloading it but linux isnt liking how its zipped

[fossil token]

Also, melon ds on Linux is shitting me

It crashes 50% of the time when I boot the game

Worth it though

[stoic lava]

Sorry for the delay my wifi is kinda bad today

[cold badge]

Is old

[wraith gust]

And?

Old doesn't mean bad

[mental slate]

I mean

[wraith gust]

And it's the only public demo available you can find

[mental slate]

If you want to try out the new movement

[wraith gust]

Unless Illy plans on releasing another one

[mental slate]

The existing demo is insufficient

[mental slate]

Hence him asking “beta when”

[fathom kraken]

"Old but gold" -An old guy, 1896 B.C.

[civic cloud]

Oh yeah I didn't think about the polygon count

[wide furnace]

compared to the entire development time of the hack, it's not really old honestly

[rich palm]

Illy goes by she/her

[fathom kraken]

(Felicette is refering to "Idk🍑🍑🎣", not Illy)

[mental slate]

^

[rich palm]

I didn't know that tbh-

[fossil token]

I still have a lot of work to do, for some reason melonds likes to do that thing and stop rendering models on linux, that never happend to me on windows melonds

[wide furnace]

i think desmume works fine on linux so i guess you can also try that (to showcase stuff at least. for testing crashes and other stuff you can continue using melonds)

[fossil token]

for some reason on nixos desmume doesnt use gpu and only cpu

also has no lua scripting support

[wide furnace]

oh, well crap then

[fossil token]

also desmume isnt made with liux support, the dev is very anti linux

I can always just use desmume on my pc and it runs fine but im lazy and sitting in bed rn :p

[wide furnace]

i just know that i tried it for a bit and it ran fine for me (better/cleaner than windows even. the framerate specifically)

[wide furnace]

also the way the koopas die here remind me of the beta ones/the ones from earlier builds

[fossil token]

Yeah lol

I haven’t set up their defeat state

[wide furnace]

oh i wasn't sure if it was on purpose or not

[fossil token]

Other enimies can kick koopa shells lmao

I just had a goomba murder me with one

i need to fix that

[lapis lark]

i forgot where from, but isnt there a mario enemy that kicks koopa shells back at mario?

[lapis lark]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-brick-parry-gif-27597104

[fathom kraken]

Ye, buster bettle

[north garnet]

And Blue Koopas in SMW!

[civic cloud]

There are many enemies that do that actually

There are also Outmaway and Shova in Wonder

Toopa Striker in Super Paper Mario

[analog oracle]

-# why do I love this image specifically… it looks nostalgic 😭

[wide furnace]

i thought about the outmaway too

[civic cloud]

It's the old official artwork, the old style has some charm, also Buster Beetle looks very cool

[fossil token]

Got my chem exam today

im not looking forward to it

oh yeah, I also build apicula on linux and exported the koopa model

I plan on changing it a tiny bit so those visaul bugs dont happen on emulator and cause I need to add a parakoopa animation and need to pass a flag when converting back to nsbmd

[lapis lark]

good luck

[civic cloud]

Good luck

[fathom kraken]

Good luck 🤞

[fossil token]

Got a math exam on logs, cicrculer functions, calculus, inverses, a shit tone of different typs of graphs and polynomials and shit tone of other stuff in an hour

also chem exam was alright

I got my result for the last chem test I did and it was only 35%, class average was 28% though so I take it

[fossil token]

and I got a physics exam straight after that

[lapis lark]

i wouldnt wish this on my worst enemy

good luck

[fathom kraken]

Good luck 🤞🍀

[fossil token]

Math one was easy, physics one was fucked, most questions were really poorly written and some of them you needed to use second order derivatives to even get a viable answer or some other crazy shit, most of my class left 20 questions out of the 60 in short answer empty, I only left 10 but I did not know what u was doing for a good chunck of them, just plugging numbers into formulas and hoping it works

Well u don’t have any exams tmr

And Friday is a day off school

So I’m hoping I can make some progress

[rich palm]

Weird question, but did you ever name the Broozer boss? Always imagined its name being Boss Broozer, akin to the Boss Brolder from 3D World

[warped briar]

Or Boss Sumo Bro

[civic cloud]

I'm genuinely the only person who has zero trouble doing derivatives, I'm chilling with calculus

[civic cloud]

That's probably the name he's getting

[wraith gust]

How about Big Broozanova?

I'm really bad at choosing names

[wide furnace]

i actually like this one, sounds kinda original

[lapis lark]

this has a nice ring to it

[wraith gust]

JPG, go sob somewhere else

[fossil token]

they are not hard, the thing is that we are not meant to need to use them in physics since calculus isnt meant to used in unit 1-2 physics since not everyone would of been taught them

[fossil token]

Its honestly just called Boss Broozer in code, i was lazy, never finished the rewrite of it to make it an actaul fun boss

[fossil token]

Only thing hard was trying every other way to solve but nothing worked besides calculus, and one other question ended up being a quadratic which I also was not expecting, that one wasnt hard though as that has appeared before

[civic cloud]

Yeah that is true, I'm not sure I actually learned them in high school, I think we started that calculus stuff in university

In any case I'm definitely sure they weren't a thing in high school physics

[civic cloud]

Me too

[fossil token]

just noticed that the blender plugins support texture pattern animations now

cool

still no visibility abimations though which kinda sad

so those spikes on the koopas feet is because of this

nintendo was just really lazy lol

pain

might also strip those polys from the koopas body thats inside the shell since I wont be able to have the .nsbva fo allow those to exsist

[fossil token]

thats quite a few tries cut down

time to unwrap the uv and go through the pain of resetting it up since the uv is a mess

[fossil token]

did a lazy and just made the shoes all the same colour

they will be tiny in game and with the shading i doubt people will know

[civic cloud]

Yeah I would've never noticed

[lapis lark]

the bah animation with the stick arms is gonna look so funny

[lapis lark]

same

[fossil token]

yeah, I need to make a bah animation :p

umm, I was just copying a new koopa model to copy the animations over and um

I did not expect it to open on the enter shell animation

[mental slate]

Holy shit

[wraith gust]

[fossil token]

welp blender is having a fit and not letting me change animations for some reason

it went from being stuck on the broken walk anim to that animatioon

well thats why you make copys :p

also dont ask why im doing this when its 4.45 am

I woke up like 20 min ago and had a random motivation spike

[candid magnet]

no

[lapis lark]

😭!

[fossil token]

me and a friend are now making a dramatic render of it for fun

[tall umbra]

i thought i was the only one seeing this the wrong way

[mental slate]

Bahckshots

[lapis lark]

new++ ❌
18++ ✅

[lapis lark]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-writing-fire-his-writing-is-fire-is-this-fire-hold-up-gif-15400153686296022809

[north garnet]

Koopas sus sus

[rich palm]

Hot.

[lapis lark]

keep it in your shell buddy

[fossil token]

So the new koopa model is fucked

the head is tilted and an arm isnt animated

:p

it doesnt cause the crashes that the othet one did though

[fossil token]

the nsmb2 model is low poly as well

I might give it a try

ima try downloading 3.6 first maybe

may be smth with blender 5.0 causing the issue

this is whats going on with the koopa models btw

[fossil token]

and I tried again and it was even worse

I think this may just be g3dcvtr not wanting to work properly on linux

can somebody try putting all of these .ica files into the same .nsbca and try converting the .imd with the -s flag

[lapis lark]

koopa creepypasta

[analog oracle]

are you sure it’s g3dcvtr not working
it could be the order of the animations, maybe even the names
u can open the original nsbca on some hex editor and u can see the names + the order by scrolling

[fossil token]

I’m doing them in the right order, the motion of the animation is the same but the rotation is getting fucked, also I have debug stuff to play every animation one by one for the koopa, in the first case it was only the walk animation that was stuffed

[fossil token]

I’m honestly kinda burnt out

These 3d koopas have just been pain after pain

[warped briar]

What was the reason for them again?

[fossil token]

Mainly for the visual improvements

I think ima scrap them though, it’s just been to many nightmares to get the model working

[warped briar]

How specifically would it be a visual improvement?

[fossil token]

Means that I could have large koopas that look the same as small

And they wouldn’t look bad like the pee rendered koopas

Also means I could easily add koopa variations

Such as giving those bomb dropping koopas proper animations

[fossil token]

Also, I may not have as much time to work on this hack as I thought over the summer holidays, I am thinking of picking up 3-4 specialist math for year 12 and I haven’t done 1-2 so I need to catch up on a school years worth of content in eight weeks. Do not ask me why I would put my self through that hell

For those of you who are not Aussies, spesh math is the hardest subject you can do

For vce

[lapis lark]

good luck

[fossil token]

Made a tiny bit of progress today on a level

my energy has been on school

[rapid bramble]

seems like you enjoy math so keep it up

i'm in love with the subject too

[fossil token]

yeah I do, the class only had 7 kids, eight with me in it and it was really fun, I got two hours of it tmr morning which im looking forward to, I wanted to sit units 1 and 2 of the class last year but I couldn't because of accelerated bio :p

[fossil token]

Testing ending the void level with a dry bowser and I think it could be cool if I make its fire homing

might try it soon

looks like we need some custom code :p

thankfully the bowser stuff has mostly been decomped by taco already, or I could use a disposable final boss fight here

damn, if you make bowsers settings>>0 &0xf != 0 you can just make bowser drop down without needing to triger an event

[wide furnace]

why are there 2 fight arenas? what is the 2nd one for?

[fossil token]

I was having fun testing things :p

[wide furnace]

oh ok

i thought you wanted to have one boss after the other and i was curious as to what was that other boss

[fossil token]

I was trying that

[wide furnace]

oh

[civic cloud]

The black lava is so cool

Castle Bleck vibes

[fossil token]

Last day of school today

We gonna be playing Mario kart 8 in that advanced math class I joined :3

[lapis lark]

have fun

[fossil token]

update, my teacher was a sweat, I would of won but my drift was to open so I missed the last short cut on cheese land and he won

[fossil token]

saving this here for when I get home, im flipping through bowser in class and I could do some fun stuff with this :3

might load to main so I can do some fun with dry bowsers as enemies in a level

[civic cloud]

Yooo that's so dope, we never did that in school, at most we watched movies, and that was mostly when I was a kid, not a late teen

[fossil token]

we also went to the weights room to see who can do the most pull ups and bench press the most, the teacher was a student at the school years ago so he also likes to mess around

[civic cloud]

Nice, that's fun too

[fossil token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5tSvZqVgn4

made a meme video so it looks like im doing smth

[lapis lark]

i save my hype points almost exclusively for these uploads

[fossil token]

Buying a mic today so hopefully I can make that qna video I planned for 3k subs :p

[wide furnace]

meanwhile me who had bought a mic months ago yet never used it... 😭

[lapis lark]

my ds can function as a mic so i just never felt the need to buy one

[wraith gust]

Do you guys have a mic?

/j

[fossil token]

Brought it cause my laptops audio chip got shorted and now it doesn’t have working audio so I just use headphones through a usbc to six adapter cause the audio jack also died lol

My pc doesn’t have anything so I just use headphones

I gave a friend who is upgrading 32gb of my 64gb of ram cause how insane ram prices are

Each ram stick I hat went from like $70 aud to $450 aud

[mental slate]

I had a blue yeti but it was too annoying so i also have a rode lavalier go now, and that’s the mic i mostly use

[fossil token]

Haven’t made progress in the past few days, I haven’t had any motivation to do levels tbh

Now I have random motivation to make progress on a level

Why is it always when I say I don’t feel like doing any progress

Or maybe my adhd meds kicked in

yeah dry bowser do make for a kinda fun enemy

also, I do not know whats going on with the lava

I think what ima try and do is change some of bowsers loading so I can be able to use overlays to just have these guys as enemys in the level

doesnt crash but now its not drawing the dry bowser

hmm

[mental slate]

Freaky lava

[fossil token]

lets go

instead of being fancy I just did it in asm and it worked :p

having overlays loaded with dry bowser feels so weird

now I need to make sure bowsers sfx load with everything else

well ill do more work later, gotta try and force myself to eat before I forget to eat today

[lapis lark]

for some reason i cant explain i know saint peter wont call my name the glitchy lava looks really nice

[civic cloud]

Yo I always wanted Mario games to have generic Bowsers and Dry Bowsers as late game enemies, like just unidentified members of the species

Is it possible to change the code to have him not chase you when you're on his right? Or do you just use workarounds in your levels?

[pulsar holly]

Yes, it probably is

[fossil token]

I honestly dont know, Im thinking that ill have them run into the lava or have switches you can hit do drop them into lava

[fossil token]

The idea is that this is a pit full of dead koopas that are the same species as bowser :p

im tryna find the state so I can make bowsers not run when you pass them

i think i need to kinda force the player to kill them though to not overload the game

im so thankfull that taco has done most of the reversing of the bowser stuff

[civic cloud]

I thought the game doesn't overload if they don't appear at the same time

[fossil token]

bowser is special, since he is a boss he doesnt get despawned and he is always being rendered

so I had a problem with the bowsers not playing sound effects and that was because the music ram allocation is to low, thats why boss fights have increased allocation

gonna need to do streamed music

[civic cloud]

Interesting

Oh hear me out: reprogram Bowsers from scratch and you'll avoid the limitations of using a boss

[fossil token]

I have thought about that

[civic cloud]

Hmm

I don't imagine that being easy tbh

Even tho essentially Bowser is just a very buffed up Hammer Bro

[wide furnace]

yeah it does seem a bit hard if it appears several times in the level

tho considering the hack's difficulty i feel like it would be alright in world 8 or so

and i mean alright. please don't put 17 of them in a single level...

[fossil token]

It’s 5-c

It’s not on the main path

[wide furnace]

okay then

[fossil token]

the first bowser keeps walking and jumping back and cliping through walls while the second one doesnt go much further back whilst also going forward

[north garnet]

I know of the layer shenanigans, but wouldn't it be achievable to create fake walls (kinda) by putting a rectangular 3D actor in front of tiles that fades out when inside of its hitbox, showing what's behind it? Sure, you would be limited to fitting everything in one rectangle and no "spotlight" like in NSMBW, but it'd be cool!

[wide furnace]

technically yes, she already did something like that with the beach huts

but i think it would be very complicated to have specific shapes

[north garnet]

Yeah, that's why I said rectangular.

[wide furnace]

yeah but i guess it would need a specific resolution (or proper sprite settings like with the crates). and having that for every tileset, make sure it loads properly/only one without killing vram, etc

and i don't know if that's the kind of actor/mechanic Illy wants in her hack

but yes in theory, should be possible

[wide furnace]

oh also a restriction with that would be any kind of 2d object that is displayed in front of tilesets. goombas, koopas, coin sprites, etc, would show up on top of the wall, which would be weird. so you have to make sure it doesn't happen

[fossil token]

Gonna start trying to code that world map engine tonight, I need to work out some kind of collision system then I should be able to pull it off

The idea is smth like 3d world btw

[north garnet]

World map engine?

[fossil token]

but yeah

all I have done is setting up the camera and rendering a cube

[fossil token]

I did that by hooking into the world scene and making most of it not function

im tryna do this as a fully custom scene now and its more difficult

[fossil token]

if anybody is curious, the scene is just this as of now

[lapis lark]

https://tenor.com/view/wii-nintendo-pikmin-fan-64-mr-pikmin-wii-sports-gif-16642425358181769554

[fossil token]

I wanted to make progress today but I had an 8 hour shift at my job and I just wanna play Minecraft with friends

[fossil token]

all I did today was write like five lines of code to draw a player model

might try to implement moving the player model with dpad and making the camera trck the player model

[lapis lark]

The Luigii Channel

[candid magnet]

what is this?

[fossil token]

world map engine im working on, as stated a few messages above

[candid magnet]

oh cool

[fossil token]

I plan on adding spindrifts soon and making some new graphics for a joke on committed too from another server

[civic cloud]

Those who know -> 💀

[wide furnace]

those who skull

[lapis lark]

Those who let's-a go

[fossil token]

if someone can open sm64ds editor and export the model and animations that would be really helpful, cause I dont know if it will work on my linux distro, if not I can always boot windows 11 on my pc and do it

[fossil token]

I didn’t start that, I wanted to but I was to drunk so I decided to play Minecraft with friends instead and somehow didn’t die in game

I’ll try and start it tmr morning

[lapis lark]

playing bedrock edition drunk without dying is impressive

[fossil token]

Was playing Java

Anyways, think I gotta wait a bit, I’m a bit hungover and I’ll mess up the model in this state. This is why I don’t drink often. Maybe America does smth right by making the drinking age 21 lmao

[civic cloud]

I kinda disagree, they're kinda blue balling people who know that the whole rest of the world is drinking before them so once they finally have access it turns into full-blown alcoholism in many cases

I think 18 is a reasonable legal drinking age

[prime ice]

Interesting take

I live in America and am below the legal drinking age here, I don’t really plan on drinking because I have no interest and I have an addictive personality, so I don’t want to get hooked on something that’s really bad for you in excess

[fossil token]

starting the spin drift stuff now

[civic cloud]

Me too, I have an addictive personality, however I simply don't like most alcoholic beverages that much

[fossil token]

gonna try and draw animation frames cause I cant be fucked making a model

got a base frame now

I dont really remember how the animation for these guys goes, I remember that the flower spins and their body jiggles a bit

for only two frames so far that isnt to bad

[civic cloud]

Were you always planning to add them or did you only get the idea after the joke on Rimea's server?

[wraith gust]

I thought you randomly decided to add them because of the new member who joined the server, lmao

[fossil token]

Oh I met her a few weeks before she joined here, it’s a joke from rimeas server that I’m committed too

[civic cloud]

Yeah, the joke somehow relates to her, so the Spindrift pfp ain't a coincidence

[fossil token]

hmm, maybe I dont need to do frames, I can always brake the model into the head, flower and body then animate the parts via code

[weary aspen]

Japan flag on the head

[fossil token]

Don’t know how active ima be here for the next few days to few weeks, mental health is really bad rn. I have. I motivation for anything, even this hack which is smth I was always able to do no matter how I was doing, but that’s also why I haven’t been to active here in the past few days

[stoic lava]

Hope you recover soon 🫂

[fathom kraken]

Same, hope you get well 😊🫂

[fossil token]

Sadly it is smth I can’t really just recover from on my own or through my usauly supports this time. It’s a lot more complicated.

[lapis lark]

🫂

[north garnet]

Spindrifts were in beta NSMBDS, didja know?

[civic cloud]

Oh interesting

[fossil token]

Yup, most of us here know that

[fossil token]

Didn’t do anything today, and I don’t have time to do anything tmr cause I have work and then meeting up with friends and I’m not gonna be home until the next day. Don’t know why I’m saying this if I don’t even feel like doing anything rn anyways. Only reason I’m seeing my friends is so they don’t do a certain thing

[civic cloud]

Ayy no worries, the hack is cool, but social life is more important

[fossil token]

Spent 20 min in blender today telling my self I would do smth and didn’t

Then spent hours messing around with paper Mario sticker star script files and learning how that games code works some more for another project

[fossil token]

I am probably gonna do some rom hacking after work today, don’t know if I wanna work on on new++ or sticker comet though

[fossil token]

I did like one chunk of the abyss

And then did some messing around with sticker star and discovered smth I didn’t know with the fish hook sticker

[fossil token]

I’m in the er now, gonna hopefully admit myself to a psych hospital if I can

[prime ice]

oh no, I hope you didn't do anything harmful to yourself

[fossil token]

Yesterday I did

This server isn’t the place to talk about it

I’m just saying I may be in a psych ward soon

And depending on the rules at the one I get sent to, I may not have any electronics

So I may be inactive here

[stoic lava]

Wait what

Im really worried but i hope everything goes alright 🫂

[fossil token]

That’s why I’m waiting to be put in a psych ward

Before I do anything else to myself

[fossil token]

Well I’m being transported there soon, looks like it’s one I can use my phone in thankfully

[fossil token]

In the transport van, they gonna take my phone in a min so goodnight,

[civic cloud]

Oh damn, I hope things get better soon

[fossil token]

I think the treatment is helping

Idk, hasn’t been a day in here yet

[fleet breach]

treatment ?

what happened ??

[fleet breach]

oh what

[fossil token]

I’m in a psych ward, cause my what is assumed to be schizophrenia currently has got really bad

[fossil token]

Oh yeah, a friend is visiting today and she said she might try to see if she has an old laptop she can bring, I’m hoping she can so I can draw some tile sets while I’m here at least

Since I don’t have my laptop here

[civic cloud]

Damn, I hope you get an official diagnosis so that you find a way to efficiently deal with it

In my friend's case it's really working, it helped her contain the problem

[fleet breach]

aw that sucks I hope you get well soon ❤️‍🩹

[fossil token]

They haven’t done that yet, but they starting me on antipsychotics and discharging me today

[fossil token]

well im free, only got held in there a few extra days, but i got the meds i needed

im gonna work on a level later today i think

[prime ice]

so you are no longer in the psychward?

[lapis lark]

ive noticed that when i play regular nsmb i keep dying because i keep trying to complete impossible jumps with twirls and dives
the extra movement controls in new++ just feel so natural that i deadass forgot theyre not in the vanilla game

[stoic lava]

YEAAAAA :>

[fossil token]

yeah, unless outpatients sends me back when they visit me at my house in an hour and a half today :p

I feel bad for a friend I made in there, here is a trans guy and everyone else has been discharged but him, hes only 15 and has spent four months of his life in there

[stoic lava]

Oh.... :<

I feel like im too sentimental im not the type of person for hearing this stuff 😭

[fossil token]

sorry if it was to much, im just talking to him rn and hes really board and sad

im tryna remember what my plans were for 5-c

the level with dry bowsers

[stoic lava]

No worries sis, well, i hope everything goes alright for him 🫂

[stoic lava]

The void one?

[fossil token]

yeah

[stoic lava]

What if you used other bone enemies as well, such as bone goomba, dry bones, bone plant n such

[fossil token]

oh yeah, i have dry plants

im doing sticker comet stuff rn, i already did a bit of that level earlier today

[stoic lava]

Ohhh sticker star hack?

Interesting!!

[fossil token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gGo6DFPHhM

[stoic lava]

Ohhhhh

[fossil token]

this one, i joined the team to do coding a few weeks ago

[stoic lava]

Gotcha, joined their server, seens interesting the mod

[prime ice]

That’s good to hear, I hope you are now getting the help you need

[fossil token]

Oh yeah, have desktop and laptop synced so I can work in both

[fossil token]

Looks like they may be doing that today :p

I hope not but they talking about it, I just wanna work on new++ and sticker comet lmao

[fossil token]

And they are doing it

Ima be there until Friday :p

[fossil token]

I wanted to try drawing a tile set but that isn’t fun on a phone

Gonna see if someone is able to bring me my laptop so I can work on new++ when I’m allowed to use tech here

[wraith gust]

JPG reading this:

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-pathetic-principal-skinner-gif-13486077408184960752

[stoic lava]

LMAO

[north garnet]

Maybe if you try a phone with a stylus like the Galaxy Note 7-

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

[fossil token]

got my laptop in here

gonna work on that goonie level i think

i also may try doing bomb bros again, I have a new idea on how i could do them that would be so much easier

[fossil token]

It feels good to be working in this again

[fossil token]

so i got a "working" bomb bro, I just need to do smth so I can apply the right velocty to the hanmer

*bomb

okay got more stuff done

now just need to come up with a way to scale velocity correctly for throws

and than add a model/texture for them

this guy is on crack

[fathom kraken]

What will be the visual difference between Hammer Bros and Bomb Bros?

[wide furnace]

i'm guessing their green parts will be black

[fossil token]

this

only problem is the part where the hammer is being helt before being thrown, i need to make that a bomb

[fossil token]

getting there

this looks so cursed

maybe ill just make it a plane like the hammers they hold

gonna try the sprites from bobomb reverse

this looks clean

well I only have 15 min left

hope i can finish this off

LMAO

typed 1501 instead of 2501

looks a lil bit off

but better than nothing

[candid magnet]

looks so cursed 😭

[fossil token]

i cant use the model because the rotation when he lifts it

[bronze shell]

hmm, I think thrown climbing fencas could maybe be a half decient level, probably hard to design

[wraith gust]

I think it would look better if you slightly modified the colors of the 2D Bob-Omb's to make it look similar to the 3D one

[fossil token]

I plan on doing that

I just didn’t have the time

I will when I get my laptop back

Also I being sneaky and didn’t hand in my phone :3

[wide furnace]

better than the flip gate

[fossil token]

omg the syncing between laptop and pc is so nice, what i did in grippy sock jail is all here

[fossil token]

they are done

finding a soloution to do it without really touching the hammer bros code was hell

i plan on making a level with them soon

[fossil token]

this level seams so lazy

[wide furnace]

i feel like it's because of the tiling (i know the ice blocks are destructible but it creates a restriction), lack of deco elements, and maybe lack of blocks (not sure for this one)

[stoic lava]

I love how it looks honestly

[wide furnace]

the star coin seems to be very precise to get. except maybe with the fire flower. interesting

[north garnet]

So, Bomb Bros. from NewerWii finally make it into a NSMBDS hack?

[wraith gust]

As if Newer Wii owned the idea, lol

[fossil token]

I only had to idea to do them cause I was coding them for sticker comet :p

[fossil token]

Well the newer Wii ones take ten years to blow up, these ones blow up really fast

[fossil token]

i nearly finished those now

time to go back to making the bomb bro level for new++

they are world based btw

if anybody wants to use them i can give you the code, i just dont think they are that polished so i dont wanna release them yet

[wraith gust]

I have a huge temptation to request the code since I would love to use them in a level, but I also don't wanna be a copycat, I'm already using a lot of actors from your New++ Github repo, lol

[fossil token]

I don’t care how many actors you use, they are public for a reason

I might send it here later

I’m about to go shopping so I turned my pc off

Also 3d powerups, specifically the parashell and flowers are broken for some reason, but only when spawned from a ? Block

The roulette block spawning them works fine

[fossil token]

progressive powerups is what the problem is it seams like

there we go

they just are not progressive for now

i love the way these look though

Im not working tmr since outpatients isn’t letting me work for two weeks so I have like eight hours to work in rom hacks

Might try to grind out a level or two

And maybe do the spindrift stuff

[fossil token]

It’s 4.00am and I woke up with a random thought, did anybody make a public template for rendering tile sets?

[prime ice]

I think purps did

https://discord.com/channels/399424476259024897/1418306891662102599

are you thinking of something like this?

[fossil token]

Yes

I can now go back to sleep

I wanna improve some of my tile sets

[fossil token]

This levels b side room is evil

I’m probably gonna finish and showcase this bomb bro level today

Gonna add sledge bomb bros

The level just needs one more thing and I think they would be lethal

[fossil token]

:3

[civic cloud]

Nice we got the heavy variant too

[fossil token]

https://youtu.be/nyMqr4qbKLs

[lapis lark]

i really like this level

[lapis lark]

thanks to this video youtube is recommending rom hack trailers to me

[fossil token]

Oh yeah, I drew out most of this level on paper in the psych ward

So as a joke my friends told me to do a title for test and compare called “I made this level in the psych ward”

[lapis lark]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-but-in-yellow-chart-diagram-is-it-peak-gif-4287186003754402876

[fossil token]

started working on the space station tile set

[fossil token]

I really like the look of these

[wide furnace]

wow nice level!!

holy crap these bros are wild. i feel like their bob-ombs explode a bit fast, though it kinda feels like they're throwing regular bombs that explode whenever they land on the ground. if that's what you want though, i guess that works. at least the bob-ombs don't go through blocks (which is annoying with regular hammer bros., and would be even worse here)

it does feel a bit empty/repetitive with the lack of variations in the ice blocks. so what i could suggest is to make a few 1x1 variations if possible (you don't have to tho)

speaking of the ice blocks, they have a red "explodable block" particle, and i think using a gray one (from stone blocks) would work better visually

i'm a bit sad that you changed the star coin in the screenshot to one where you just throw the bomb and have to be fast enough. it's better, yes, though i kinda wished the idea of having to make the bob-omb bounce in the air with fireballs was used somewhere else in the level (which seems to be what you tried to do here)

also for that sledge bomb bros at the end on the staircase, i really don't like it. usually i'm not a fan of "strong enemy to troll you at the end of the level", which just feels unfair gameplay-wise. smb3 did that a lot unfortunately (and even then you could usually avoid it by jumping right away to hit the end of level card). and here it feels like you either have to damage-boost or use a powerup to get through. and if you die, you have to go through this whole section of the level, again and again (i suffered from this while playing SMB The New Worlds as well...)

also the timer feels a bit tight. though that's probably also because of going through the B-Side room

oh also, the coins have some gray pixels on their animated frames. (just letting you know in case you couldn't see it)

oh for the sledge bro btw, usually it can be interesting when you have to do something before the staircase gets "destroyed" if you're not fast enough. but usually it's better if it's still somewhat easy for the player to survive. for example if you really wanna keep that sledge bomb bro, you can put some kind of passageway below the staircase (2-3 first rows of blocks, like in the nsmb 1-2 secret exit kinda)

otherwise might be good to find some way with bob-ombs, for example having some that are ready to explode

[wraith gust]

I really like how this level looks and it seems fun to play, so far I only have four complains:

• When Bob-Ombs destroy iced blocks they show red block particles, which looks weird and unfitting
• The Super Mario Sunshine music in the underground area feels out of place (and the background is also glitchy, I'm assuming it's because your underground tileset is replacing one of the volcano slots)
• I feel like the Bob-Ombs thrown by Bomb Bros explode too fast
• The timer in this level feels unnecessarily tight
  Other than that, this level is awesome, it's nice to see a new level from this hack after not having seen any previews in a while

Also, what is that weird background noise heard in certain parts of the video?

[ivory bear]

The bomb variant of the Bros. would have been called Bomber Bros. and TNT (or Explosion) Bros.

[fathom kraken]

Bazooka Bros

Grenade Bros

[fathom kraken]

😭

[fossil token]

yeah, the particals were meant to be gray but for some reason they were all black, thats a later me problem, and the bomb explosion time is one of those things that I need to work on

and for the timer, I forgot to place a +100 clock in the beside room

[fossil token]

Gonna make the b side for that level today

Might also have bomb spikes in it

Don’t know yet

Just thinking of how I want to do it as I’m waiting at an outpatients appointment rn

[fossil token]

Gonna make this brighter, it gets compressed way to much

I feel like I’m just redrawing the nsmbwii tower with space station like colours

I plan on finishing that, retailing kameks tower and then updating the fight and making the b side

[wide furnace]

wouldn't that be redundant?
(i imagine bomb spikes and bomb bros would work almost the same)

[fossil token]

That is probably obs being obs trying to get an input from my mic when it’s not plugged in

[fossil token]

Yeah, it would

Maybe fire spikes

Or just snow spikes

[lapis lark]

"damn girl, you make this in the psych ward? cuz this level's insane 🔥"

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

that joke sucked im closing discord

[fossil token]

Of course lmao

[fossil token]

https://youtu.be/QK2sO_0QZ0E

I need to do smth about the bomb bros blowing themself up

but overall, I like this B side, I shouldnt of been so generous with my powerups though

[ivory bear]

Found their artworks

[wide furnace]

pretty cool. only issue i have i think is, once again, the lack of variation for explodable blocks. also the stuff that has been mentioned previously (eg. bomb bros' bombs exploding too fast sometimes, and what you mentioned about the sledge bomb bros)

[wide furnace]

also name suggestions for these two:
Bob-Omb Bros. / Bomb Bros.
and
Boom Bros.

[tepid temple]

I love how the bomb bros sometimes decide to kill themselves before you can

they'd be good samurai

[ocean pivot]

kamikaze

[fossil token]

i like the way this tower tile set turned out

[rich palm]

Really liking the differently-shaped bricks

[fossil token]

It’s Mario Wii inspired

[fossil token]

Why is the second comment so real lmao

It did help me a lot being there for a bit though

[lapis lark]

thats amazing to hear

[fossil token]

pain

now i need to do tile behaviors

[fossil token]

done

[fossil token]

redrawing the forsaken city tile set

[fossil token]

im listening to the celeste ost as i go and im just vibing

gonna suck needing to retile a few levels

but its gonna be soo worth it i think

[cold badge]

Man i can't wait anymore

[fossil token]

That’s fair tbh

[fossil token]

Had to change some code with the cassettes cause they made the game crash when I added code for the B side heart

[fossil token]

https://youtu.be/SFwfjvLl5LU

[wide furnace]

might seem weird but, i think i actually prefer the old one (or at least some ideas from it) a bit more. i think i like the "rounder"/more shaded edges better (both bricks and ice), especially the tile that connects the ice to regular ground

[fossil token]

I still can do those tiles

They are just a pain to work with

[wide furnace]

okay then

[fossil token]

I am thinking of using the extended subnohara

I just also dont want to have to redraw a crap tone

I might try to shove the bridge tiles into it though

[fossil token]

these are the sloped tiles to join that i forgot i had

[fossil token]

I kinda hate how this tile set looks

I wanna replace it with the farewll tileset since i think it looks better

[wraith gust]

Imo that tileset looks good, but I think the top of the ground could be improved

[fossil token]

I forgot i had this version which jouner made

ill keep this

still wanna do this other tile set though since it will work for some other w8 levels

or dream levels

[wide furnace]

it does look better yeah

[fossil token]

I might use this tile set as a base for my desert tile set

[fossil token]

Outpatients is holding me in psych ward since they think it’s to unsafe for me to go home :p

Can’t believe this is my 6th admission

[rich palm]

I do hope things look up for you soon

[fossil token]

Mother did not bring my laptop like I asked, I wanted to do some more coding for the ice flower

But that’s not happening today

[tepid temple]

code with pencil and paper

[lapis lark]

code by tapping the walls of the psych ward with each tap representing ones and zeroes, and have the vibrations of each tap reach a 5G tower where they will then be transmitted into the vaccine microchips in peoples minds so you can instruct them on how to code the ice flower

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-sometimes-my-genius-almost-frightening-driving-car-ride-gif-16463163

[wraith gust]

Getting people on the psych ward to help you with coding and level design 📈📈📈

[fathom kraken]

Coding idk, but level design would be 🔥

[mental slate]

I need some psych ward level designers for my hack tbh

[fossil token]

:3:3:3

I wish I had my laptop so I could do stuff

[lapis lark]

what if the reason wario has less trouble cancelling momentum compared to the other characters is because he has grippy socks on?

[fossil token]

I got leave for a few hours so ima go home do some stuff on pc, sync it to laptop then bring my laptop here

[fossil token]

:3

[crisp haven]

YESS the sawblades

[fossil token]

just some showcasing of it

i might start making a level with them tmr

or today, idk, i gotta be back at the psych ward in two hours

[fossil token]

i added a sound effect for it as well btw

just used the smw one

[fossil token]

back in the ward and dont have to much time to do stuff

but started working on 4-Airship

[stoic lava]

This is peak

[lapis lark]

peak++

[rich palm]

Holy shit, that looks clean

[crisp haven]

is it a 2D sprite or 3D model?

and is it a custom NPC?

[fossil token]

Gotta work with what I have in here :3

My laptop does not last long though

[fossil token]

its two 3d models that are just planes

[crisp haven]

oh like rimea's approach on "wonder" saw

[fossil token]

the center part is a billboard so it doesnt spin with the blade to make it easier

[fossil token]

idk, these have been sitting here for over a year but they looked really bad since the core moved as well and I didnt have the size options

[crisp haven]

in one of their recent vids they "recreated" the sawblade npc in wonder and the way they went with creating the assets is pretty similar to way you described it

so ig you did it first then, nice work
i forgot the sawblades are not in NSMBDS, would be cool to see that "thiner" vertical sawblade on a engine from SMW too
if you plan on having that i could provide the assets for that

[fossil token]

if you make the models and anims then i can do it