#New++ Super Mario Bros

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ill fix the animation frames of the hit blocks and stuff then do the broken block particals

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the best part is what my desktop looks like now lol

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I really need to set up file share so I can also work on the hack on my pc but im lazy

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lmfaoo what?? LMAO.png 😭

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others are funny too

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honestly i kinda felt like the old question blocks had a slightly different shape that really gave it a lot of charm and that i really liked

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probably because the question mark was bolder or something

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tho overall the new jyotyu stuff looks better

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usually i always put stuff in somewhat organized folders, with numbers at the end (when saving multiple backups of the same thing, or merging layers)

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why do people put files on their desktop, that's criminal 😭

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i only put folders and apps shortcuts. i rarely put any files

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btw i should really redo the TRQ jyotyu

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this bubble looks really bad

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good thing I dont use them at all

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thing im done, this is the underground one

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ill show off the rest in a sec

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normal

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the spike block has weird colors, especially on the outlines

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also the spikes tho

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same for the edges of the red event block

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they're green

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volcano

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this one is the colour blind special :3

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I just havent fixed them yet

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since I dont use them

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i kinda guessed it was because of color blindness

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A thing i feel that is weird is the mushroom, shell, flower n such sprites cuz they dont fit nsmb at all, ig same as nsmbu jyotyu and coins, but it looks really nice!

rich palm
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I think it fits N++ and Illy's style

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And definitely fits more than...the N-word hack's...

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I think everything looks fine, my only complain is that the question blocks have a severe contrast in the lower part, which makes them look weird

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You should probably try to use a brighter color to fix this

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oh yeah, the gradient got fucked

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use to be more colours there before it got imported

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wide furnace
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maybe it would be better if you use nitropaint instead?

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wraith gust
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I think it'd be much better to do some manual changes before even importing it into NSMBe

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I did put it through nitro paint to reduce the colours before hand as well

wide furnace
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im just sick of editing this tile set

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its an improvment over my last one

wide furnace
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fair

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So I was messing around with two lemmy's at once since the game cant handle three

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and omfg

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this shit is nearly immposible

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the vid that I half 40 min of footage for only saw five attempts get to phase two and most of those I died staright away

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Another video of me messing around with new++ trying to push koopaling fights to their limits since these meme vids do well. This fight was so incredibly difficult and unfair with two Lemmys that I couldnt even land all three hits on just one Lemmy in phase two. This fight is already one of the hardest fights in the game with just one Lemmy so t...

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Illy, could you do an example on how to use your lakithunder castle tileset?

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Cause it's a little confusing...

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whenever i get a notif from this post i think its the real ndy for a sec

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since JPG64 made a checkpoint model, some ideas came to my mind for this hack's checkpoint model:

  • replacing Bowser's face with Bowser Jr's
  • Making the "mushroom kingdom" flag (like the vanilla nsmbds) appear when you touch the checkpoint. that is, if you don't feel like making an image for each player
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I’m gonna leave the checkpoint model how is is for now until I come up with the designs

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fathom kraken
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-# Sorry for ping

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was thinking of putting a bath bomb on ndy's one originally but people wouldnt get the joke

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Oh ndy is still buggy

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and i hope the yoshi icons won’t have that weird shading

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Ndy should have a banhammer that gives him a melee attack every time he does a midair twirl.

olive owl
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Lmao

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You’re says I’m not meant to show this but damn, my yt has been doing really well this month

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Wait, you’re austerilian?

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fuck she's austerilian, i can't be excited for this hack anymore Mariover

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LMAO

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Woke up on the middle of the night with an idea for a b side

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Don’t know how it will work but it’s on the coding board now

wide furnace
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interesting

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yeah that probably wont work

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I could do some kind of thing which ties it to the up and down stretchy mushrooms or make some platform that changes lava hight

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I NEED SPIKE!!!!!!

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polar fjord
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havent made any progress in the last few days, I finished my trial exams yesterday and I have a lot of schoolwork to catch up on in the next few days that I put aside to study for those trial exams

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might try to make a list of actors I can replace thought

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and find the addresses of their profiles and stuff

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yeah, I can probably get rid of a lot of the under water stuff

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idk though, I may still make some under water levels

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got these ones to start with

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What are these for?

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doing a non-under water level with these actors

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I think it fits

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sushis only are used in floating water bubbles, the water at the bottom of 1-2 and here which I find kinda funny

polar fjord
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my ass thought that was water

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the sand Mariover

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this is what it actaully looks like

polar fjord
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the bush looks weird

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the purple shading… i think

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idk if it’s shading but the purple and the blue on the bush look kinda weird Mariover
i think you should change it

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oh

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well then peak

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ig

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the idea is that everything is meant to feel slightly off in the parallel levels

polar fjord
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sushi should be the next npc driver in mkw trust

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(saying fire ball cause that is basically what a hammer is since it runs the fire ball death state of most actors)

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the vid won’t load

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sushis dont have koopa shell collision :p

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gonna need to fix that

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I noticed the Pokémon soundfont.

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Beautiful I am the star of illycat

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Am of the top 5% of viewers who created the most hype in September

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à

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@flat lily italiano?

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just has a lot of instruments

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Hey your romhack was reccomended to me on youtube
Nice work :3 Good for 2 yaears, very goods actually

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It’s more like I have been working on this for four years, but two years ago I restarted everything

polar fjord
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why’d you restart?

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i mean idgaf but everyone else does it

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idk

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i think i see why interesting

rich palm
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the spike top setting in cheap cheaps is fun :3

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the one thing is, if there block is destroyed then you got problems

polar fjord
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need to rewrite their"on block hit" state

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just noting that down cause I have to go to class soon

amber zephyr
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so flying sharks and fish

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is B side gonna feature only that or extra?

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b side should have a giant sushi

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basically king bill

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or giant eel

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B sides have whatever the hell I feel like

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polar fjord
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they function similarly though

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at least

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that’s what i was thinking

amber zephyr
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illy have you ever tried coding the grape juice to be non transpoarent?

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so?

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is it not possible to make a custom actor?

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if it isn’t

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um

amber zephyr
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Idk the nsmb2 juice looks good

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Also needs to be this way for a b side

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5-castles

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Since it has really fast position going up and down and the player should be able to see the level that’s in poison

amber zephyr
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Okey

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Illy how did you do the footstep hack?

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Like were there any difficulties matching it with mario's speed?

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It doesn’t play in the base game due to a bug

amber zephyr
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Ahh

tepid temple
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Maybe that’s the case, not sure tbh

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Overwriting the function with the same one makes it play

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now that you say it, yeah i always felt like there was something off with the footstep since around the time Illy/you added the extra characters code hack, but couldn't put my finger on what exactly

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you can just do this for coin cheep cheeps

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coin cheep cheep is another free actor profile for me then

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yup all there settings are in the normal cheep cheep actor

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someone should add that to the editor config stuff

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just be warned, the jumping cheep cheep behavior is different between the "cheep cheep" sprite and "jumping cheep cheep" sprite (the latter is unused and bounces on the water surface iirc)

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mario party ds music slaps hard

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ima rip some for B sides and cassette rooms

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Hell yeah

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I love the boss theme

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The one painful thing is that I need to redo the swar’s

restive tusk
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This mod looks great :33

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lapis lark
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nsmb2 indeed
now all this vid is missing is a bah in every beat of the music

civic cloud
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Maybe I'm tired but I found the way it just squirts groups of coins periodically instead of continuously funny 🤣🤣🤣

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It's like when you're peeing the last few drops that ain't easily coming out

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What a strange example BoomDoom

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First thing that came to mind 😭😭😭

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lapis lark
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im thinking of making snow w4 and twilight town w5 due to some difficulty things

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also cause wm layouts and I dont know if ima be able to get them all modeled

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also cause I dont wanna change the roy fight much more and its kinda easy

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im just leaving him as his main clown car phase, no scrolling

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one of the nice things is it allows me to have a good spot for the one freeze flame level

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gotta find out how to move those wm particals from w5 to w4 though

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there is some slight vertex colouring here or smth which is really pissing me off

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probablly gonna make the ice part of the tree model to avoid that

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Vertex coloring in vanilla worldmaps 🥀

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now I need to find a spot for the airship

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I think 4-a is the only spot I can since there is no paths comming off it

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its far from perfect as seen in the vid but I think its a slight improvement

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Peak

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Maybe this is too much to ask, but would it be possible to make the tree next to 4-A use a different texture? Since 4-A in my hack is an autumn level I thought it'd be a good idea to add an autumnal tree so that it makes sense

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send me the texture

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will only take two secconds

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if u want I can add a plane with an image of a leaf pile there and other stuff

wraith gust
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will finish it soon

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So how does World Bowser work?

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bowser isnt in this hack

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The ninth World

wraith gust
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okay gonna make a pole about smth related to iggy and roy

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thanks

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pretty sure meromero made a simple code hack to patch it

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also the new worldmap looks nice

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The hard thing is that Roy’s tower is snow themed

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Snow I would need to retire it :p

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I do want Iggy in world 4 though

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wide furnace
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oh 😭 well okay then

fathom kraken
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Woah! Love that new map!

foggy flare
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It looks great!

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still need to find the code for the wm snow particals

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waiting for people to respond to it

wide furnace
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the twilight town ground looks kinda weird on the map at times due to it being circles

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the clarity changes as you move around

amber zephyr
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it looks spooky

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so pretty good

analog oracle
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tepid temple
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no AngrySonic

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i wrote some code for jpg that does this

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it's somewhere

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"I mAed a KoWd 4 JAipEEgEE"

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/j

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Jpg, there isn't any button!!!

tepid temple
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lmao you can do some funny stuff with that code

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How should the Iggy, Roy and Monty fights be done due to w4 and w5 switching places (Iggys fight is planned to use a tank btw)

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well that was a helpful poll lol

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And then everyone clapped

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now I want to do it on my youtube to see the result

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I feel like its just people wanting the koopaling they like better in a later world

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I personally think it's a bit pointless, if you ask on YT I feel some people would vote randomly just for the sake of voting

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music is some random ass track from Coraline ds

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random ass movie game that has kinda decent music so I slaped it into the nsmbds sound front :p

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I still need to add villagers and houses to the map

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Nice, not much of a fan of the camera movement though

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Coraline is a really good movie, I didn't know it had a game for the DS, lmao

fathom kraken
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Woah, maps

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I need to lock the camera movment to specific worlds or just get rid of it

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love the map lilly

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Do you mean "bored"? Lmao

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Also, it doesn't really surprise me at all considering many movies have their own games, I played two Garfield games as a kid which are really cool and that I definitely recommend if you have nothing else to do

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You should maybe get some sleep and definitely not stay awake too late writing massive lines of code MarioOkay

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I woke up at 8.30

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and I get to sleep in until 8.00am tmr cause im going to school a bit later cause I dont have classes on

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How did you put a "secret" world after World 8?

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its currently just a button that crashes the game and sets the world to w-a

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also, what do yall think about those redish clouds or whatever on the twilight town map

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do you mean the sand wind?

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i think that works. (though they're orange-yellow, not really red)

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it would be nice to change the footstep sounds based on the worldmaps tho (here for example, swapping the w4 and w5 sounds)

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need to find the function that controls those sounds

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okay

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static const s32 mapFootSteps[8]{
  0x12, 0x14, 0x12, 0x15, 0x12, 0x12, 0x12, 0x12
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here is the array if anybody wants it

rich palm
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The maps are looking great!

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it was states though so yeah, not like I had a chance

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now, time to do the "dont get nail polish on keyboard" challenge as I work on this hack with we nails :3

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this patch seams kinda sketch

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just gonna use the normal system I guess

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olive owl
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You should change your nails out with key caps for optimal typing marioready

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this jr text box is perfect

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ima try and rip it

civic cloud
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MPDS elements getting incorporated in your mod is awesome

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I'm so excited for this ROM Hack to release holy sh*t

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I'm sorry if this sounds annoying (somehow). Hopefully I could help with this project in the future! I can import custom skeleton, retargeted animations and even design the character models!

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I can to try help at least perhaps. I'm making an Donkey Kong themed hack for 64 DS btw.

civic cloud
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Nice

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so, im thinking of how I should do the w3 map

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and one of my ideas is to switch the map model every 10 or so seconds to be the parallel side

restive tusk
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That sounds very cool! :3333

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yeah

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and it shouldnt be that hard to do

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One moment everything is fine and then everything becomes Sonic.exe after 10 seconds-

wide furnace
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yeah

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the other idea is to write a crappy 2d map engine, but using the og maps seams much better

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How about making it so that the worldmap switches between the normal and the parallel side every time you exit a level?

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dont know how well it would work though

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expressing the worlds theme on a map is pretty hard lol

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so I just made it 50/50 which map you get

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will also need to change the map music table to do this as well

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thank fuck this band around the sand isnt a vertex colour

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okay having the map just randomly be the other one can feel so weird

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ill showcase it in a sec

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there is a crash I get very rarely though

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    return ((OS_GetTick() >> 20) & 1) == 0;
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changing it from a u32 to a u64 made it happen a lot less but it still happens after a while

olive owl
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Strange

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Where are you jumping to your code?

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the function that loads the world map models is replaced

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I made that code hack which allows you to change what models a map loads ages ago

olive owl
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Honestly nvm I probably wouldn’t be able to fix it anyway

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Imposter code modder syndrome oh yeah oh yeah KnightYayayayayay

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Oh hmm

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I was flicking through worlds for five min until I got the crash again

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I have no clue whats going on

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need to try it on melon

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I did try more recordings and didnt get this to happen, yes it can start on either normal or parallel when you enter the world for the first time, it just didnt roll normal

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It wastes so much ram

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Reminder to self that these could make a cool level

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Is the parallel world feature exclusive to the beach world?

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Cool, that's actually interesting cuz I had a similar idea at some point, water levels with paranormal elements, dimension hopping and all that

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I imagined it being somewhat similar to Wet Dry World in concept gameplay wise

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good idea

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does this biome point look alright?

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its part of the tree model

wide furnace
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wonder if people would care about this being slightly off center :3

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I dont think it is really off center even, I think its just the paths

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I swear the airship always ends up in like the same position on each map

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I dont know if I want the airship to be on the main or sub path in w3 though

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gonna make 5-ship a tank level based on blockhoppers I think

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interesting

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this is looking like ass

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i think it looks fine, but lacks some details maybe. tho i feel like it needs more stuff for a tank texture

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It’s a first draft that I drew in five min, I’ll come up with smth else

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The other idea is that the player actually drives a tank

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oh that looks fine in the video

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rich palm
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Also, I’m thinking of replacing the item actor with the a fully rewritten one that supports future multiplayer and uses 3d models

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Since that way I can get rid of the bubble powerups since they hog a lot of vram

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I’ll try redoing it today when I get back from my friends house

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We doing exam prep

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yummy mario 3 tank wheels

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just have them as a place holder for now

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I think it kinda does the job,

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I just can not be fucked drawing a new tile set

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this looks kinda decent

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gonna mess around a bit more

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I like this feel though, reminds me of the newer weii tank

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wait, I just remembered this

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it could honestly do the job with some changes

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Oh, is that the unused bonus room tileset?

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Great idea

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yeah this could work

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Did Mario 3 also have diagonal stripes for all the tanks?

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Every tank tileset I see has those stripes

wide furnace
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tanks in smb3 had wood logs, just like airships

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Are the diagonal lines just a staple in the modding scene cause of Newer then?

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im just doing it cause its kinda the best way to do these colousr even though its not like it. Also cause that unused tile set is stripes

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it kinda works

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I think it works with the twilight town theme

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that's the most cursed thing i've heard/read today

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.................

tepid temple
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he's right

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being inspired by newer is inherently incestuous

foggy flare
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find the hidden typo

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Acotrs

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Maybe boss fights
One new power-ups

Yeeaah, I think we evolved past that...just a bit

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Just a smidge

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I was also very inexperienced with c++ back then

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We all started small

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It's neat to see how much this hack has evolved

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random ass limits that would make a custom jyotyu a nightmare

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other useful thing here is that it loads the "course clear" text

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well mario / luigi

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could probably make it for each charecter

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im not doing it lmao

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bottom screen progress

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the oam nightmares of getting the try inventory working are comming back to me

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wtf does it have to be on this sheet

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😭

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thankfully yoshis shouldnt take much room

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its feels bad making jouners icon like this but I have to use exsisting palettes

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okay it may not be that bad

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got it

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I just render on top of the pre exsisting icon cause im lazy

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if I have space ill get rid of the old mario and luigi ones all together

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but this bit map is very tight

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cursed ass yoshi icon

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I cut powerup graphics in half and flip them when I can so im trying the same thing here

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layed them out like this

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massive fucking pain

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static GXOamAttr lifeIcon_YoshiGreen[] = {
    OAM::getOBJAttr(0, 0, 0, GX_OAM_MODE_NORMAL, false, GX_OAM_EFFECT_NONE, GX_OAM_SHAPE_16x32, GX_OAM_COLOR_16, 84 * 2, 10, 0, 0xFFFF),

};

static GXOamAttr lifeIcon_YoshiGreen2[] = {
    OAM::getOBJAttr(0, 0, 0, GX_OAM_MODE_NORMAL, false, GX_OAM_EFFECT_FLIP_H, GX_OAM_SHAPE_16x32, GX_OAM_COLOR_16, 84 * 2, 10, 0, 0xFFFF)

};
static GXOamAttr lifeIcon_YoshiBlue[] = {
    OAM::getOBJAttr(0, 0, 0, GX_OAM_MODE_NORMAL, false, GX_OAM_EFFECT_NONE, GX_OAM_SHAPE_16x32, GX_OAM_COLOR_16, 84 * 2, 12, 0, 0xFFFF),

};
static GXOamAttr lifeIcon_YoshiBlue2[] = {
    OAM::getOBJAttr(0, 0, 0, GX_OAM_MODE_NORMAL, false, GX_OAM_EFFECT_FLIP_H, GX_OAM_SHAPE_16x32, GX_OAM_COLOR_16, 84 * 2, 12, 0, 0xFFFF)

};
static GXOamAttr lifeIcon_YoshiRed[] = {
    OAM::getOBJAttr(0, 0, 0, GX_OAM_MODE_NORMAL, false, GX_OAM_EFFECT_NONE, GX_OAM_SHAPE_16x32, GX_OAM_COLOR_16, 92 * 2, 10, 0, 0xFFFF),

};
static GXOamAttr lifeIcon_YoshiRed2[] = {
    OAM::getOBJAttr(0, 0, 0, GX_OAM_MODE_NORMAL, false, GX_OAM_EFFECT_FLIP_H, GX_OAM_SHAPE_16x32, GX_OAM_COLOR_16, 92 * 2, 10, 0, 0xFFFF)

};
static GXOamAttr lifeIcon_YoshiYellow[] = {
    OAM::getOBJAttr(0, 0, 0, GX_OAM_MODE_NORMAL, false, GX_OAM_EFFECT_NONE, GX_OAM_SHAPE_16x32, GX_OAM_COLOR_16, 84 * 2, 15, 0, 0xFFFF),

};
static GXOamAttr lifeIcon_YoshiYellow2[] = {
    OAM::getOBJAttr(0, 0, 0, GX_OAM_MODE_NORMAL, false, GX_OAM_EFFECT_FLIP_H, GX_OAM_SHAPE_16x32, GX_OAM_COLOR_16, 84 * 2, 15, 0, 0xFFFF)

};

ncp_hook(0x020BFE68, 0)
void lifeCounterCrap(){
    if (chosonPlayer == 2) {
        OAM::drawSub(lifeIcon_YoshiGreen, 172, 6, OAM::Flags::None, 0, 0, OAM::Settings::None);
        OAM::drawSub(lifeIcon_YoshiGreen2, 172+16, 6, OAM::Flags::None, 0, 0, OAM::Settings::None);
    }
    if (chosonPlayer == 3) {
        OAM::drawSub(lifeIcon_YoshiBlue, 172, 6, OAM::Flags::None, 0, 0, OAM::Settings::None);
        OAM::drawSub(lifeIcon_YoshiBlue2, 172+16, 6, OAM::Flags::None, 0, 0, OAM::Settings::None);
    }
    if (chosonPlayer == 4) {
        OAM::drawSub(lifeIcon_YoshiRed, 172, 6, OAM::Flags::None, 0, 0, OAM::Settings::None);
        OAM::drawSub(lifeIcon_YoshiRed2, 172+16, 6, OAM::Flags::None, 0, 0, OAM::Settings::None);
    }
    if (chosonPlayer == 5) {
        OAM::drawSub(lifeIcon_YoshiYellow, 172, 6, OAM::Flags::None, 0, 0, OAM::Settings::None);
        OAM::drawSub(lifeIcon_YoshiYellow2, 172+16, 6, OAM::Flags::None, 0, 0, OAM::Settings::None);
    }

    return;
}
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pain

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colour limits can die

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this is the only empty palatte I had so these icons are crammed in it

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tyrna balance colours to make it work as well as possible

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waluigi = 11
wario = 5
Gyoshi = 10
Ryoshi = 10
Byoshi = 12 or 15
Yyoshi = 15

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just saving this here for oam code

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had to redo a lot of shit to fix the borrom screen powerups

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mario = 9

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luigi = 14

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the mario one looks very warm due to the limitations lmao

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the bloody life number is in the same oam atribute shits as the head render

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so I cant just nuke the function

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anybody want a cut in half mario and waluigi head /j

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its nice to finally have these even though they look like ass

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lol

wide furnace
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calculating the position of this arrow was a nightmare

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on the bitmap

wide furnace
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it was a nightmare on the bitmap marioready

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got it

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the head is a lil big which is kinda weid due to how its compressed so I may shrink the arrow

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wanna calculate the positions of all the other player heads first

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they all just needed a shift of one pixel lol, so only mario and luigi were painful

wide furnace
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Waluigi and Luigi have gray skin which makes them look like they have the Wither disease from Minecraft Story Mode 😭

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apart from that it looks nice

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lmao

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you try to have this many player icons all sharing the same palattes of every bottom screen graphic

wide furnace
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yeah seems complicated

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i would still expect the skin color to be right if it's shared though, since i assume the human players have the same skin colors

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but i can see how it's complicated

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i just dont have enough colours to work with

wide furnace
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oh didn't read the "of every bottom screen graphic" part properly

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still gotta do the world map one :c

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will probably do that at a later date though

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its not optimal for saving memory though

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I think these tanks look decent

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i just need to add the pipe cannons and some deco and animated wheels

lapis lark
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i love the combination of the colour of the tanks and the background
i cant explain it but it just feels so right

wide furnace
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it's... literally the same colors...

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but yeah i guess it feels right

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wide furnace
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yeah, it's just that the way he said it made it sound like it wasn't different colors

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also please avoid ping replies unless i'm asking for help about something

amber zephyr
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I like tank

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I've got the midi

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Im probs just gonna use koopa road or a airship theme

amber zephyr
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Oh okay

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Newer wii tank

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Which is just a remix of a bowsers road

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So yeah

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amber zephyr
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Eh. Not like newer made the theme i think

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But i understand

wraith gust
amber zephyr
ocean pivot
wide furnace
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translation: "hate that your icons have 16 colour limit"

worn totem
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can people just constantly stop comparing hacks to newer? it's getting annoying

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in this case, it's like smb3 not like newer

wraith gust
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true, it's quite annoying when there are many nice hacks out there

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tho i also feel like it's caused by the popularity of newer wii. i don't think i would have known about newer ds if i didn't know about newer wii.

i think we should stop there tho, or move to another channel. i don't wanna pollute Illy's thread (especially about newer-related stuff)

warped briar
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i repeat, smb3

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now please we should stop talking about it

warped briar
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SMB3 didn't have diagonal stripes

wide furnace
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the stripes are the only thing here that are similar to newer

warped briar
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I think that's quite an apparent thing

wraith gust
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Just because the pattern is similar doesn't mean Illy is intentionally copying Newer

ocean pivot
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oh no, someone gets inspiration the same way Newer did or just inspires from Newer to make something even better

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lets cancel that person

ocean pivot
warped briar
ocean pivot
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that would fit perfect

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maybe small colour change if needed but still

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also green like in original would go great with red bg

warped briar
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I would love to see a tank level that takes inspiration from the tanks in 3D World

wraith gust
warped briar
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I can see how it can get tiring

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But that's just how it is 🤷‍♂️

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Damn, didn’t know using an unused tile set = newer and that tank level = newer and the background music being koopa road since it’s in slot 0 and haven’t changed it = newer and that my other tank concepts = newer and that not even knowing what the newer tanks look like besides them having stripes = newer and that using a striped tank image and other tank images I found on google as reference = newer, and that having a planer part of a level that you drive a tank = newer and that having enemies that drive tanks = newer

warped briar
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Unused tileset?

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I’m gonna scrap the tank level, the comparison of every tiny detail is lissing me off

wraith gust
warped briar
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Ah

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I see

wide furnace
warped briar
wraith gust
wide furnace
wide furnace
warped briar
# tepid temple

Diagonal stripes is certainly not new to Newer, but multicoloured stripes like that is a rare pattern to see in the Mario series, and tank levels are also a rare sight
The combination of diagonal stripes with tanks in Newer is more than specific enough to be recognisable

wraith gust
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Can we please let this topic end?

warped briar
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Independently coming up with using diagonal stripes for tanks... an unfortunate coincidence

wide furnace
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i also find it interesting that you managed to import the koopa road theme (from sm64ds i assume?). i've heard that importing it into nsmb wouldn't work (probably because it's too large)

wraith gust
wide furnace
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does nsmb have only wave archive 0?

wraith gust
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No

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SBNK's can use a total of 4 wave archives (also known as SWAV's), NSMB usually has only one wave archive per SBNK, and SM64DS has two for most of their banks, the first one contains "common" instruments while the second one includes instruments that are exclusive to the song they correspond to, in the case of the Koopa's Road SSEQ, the "common" wave archive is not used in its SBNK, which means that it only contains the second wave archive, so if you want to get the song working in NSMB, you have to link the second wave archive to the SWAV the song uses and set the first wave archive to "FFFF - Blank"

wide furnace
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oh okay, so that's pretty simple

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i'm guessing exporting the sbnk also works then?
edit: i don't really think there's another solution, and you'll have to select the right swar again

wraith gust
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You have to either do this

if you want to get the song working in NSMB, you have to link the second wave archive to the SWAV the song uses and set the first wave archive to "FFFF - Blank"
or you can also reconfigure the SBNK so that the instruments are linked to the first wave archive instead of the second one

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Also, the same thing happens with the Big Boo's Haunt SSEQ

wide furnace
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interesting

fossil token
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Those stripes are just one pattern

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Also it was the least effort for a good looking tile set

worn totem
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The Other Schit Has Been Completely Unique.

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I Often Find Good Hacks in the Works That I Completely Foger About.

wide furnace
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just made the anims convayer belts for now

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its so much work

lapis lark
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holy peak

civic cloud
# fossil token pain

Funny timing, I was gonna ask something about Pokey, have you considered making their heads spiked like in modern games? It always weirded me out as a kid that you can't stomp on their flower heads, and that's before even playing games where you can actually do that

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I am gonna leave this here though

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could be useful

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im thinking of making the wheels actors

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I am gonna try use monty's wheels first though

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Profile: 131:Chckpoint vert, 0x020C23be ,0x020c5cd8, 020c5116

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never seen it from this angle lmao

amber zephyr
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Goodluck illy

wide furnace
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there isnt an animation for these tires that I could find

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I think its handled by the code rotating the bone

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this wheel is an actor btw, since I will probs need it elsewhere

wide furnace
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it works. though might be better to make the texture loop properly

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wide furnace
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oh ok

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fuck I made the inside of the wheel on all of them spin the wrong way

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future me can fix that

worn totem
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when I said this tile set has a bit of 3d world inspo this is what I meant

fathom kraken
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Oh cool, It looks good!!

fossil token
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this is gonna be a pain to set up

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the white lines are just so I know which corner tile they are btw

fossil token
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here is how it looks in game

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I think it looks really diffrent to any other tank level I have seen

bronze shell
wide furnace
lapis lark
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so fire

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oh yeah, also beeg tank wheels

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onyx lantern
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I wonder if the ground will damage you because of how fast the floor is scrolling, could be neat imo.

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It’s not gonna go that fast

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I was just messing around

wide furnace
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you probably thought about it already but it would be nice to make the background scroll

wide furnace
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It’s on the todo list

wide furnace
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okay then

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its so cursed seeing these guys with their default texture lmao

mental slate
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I fw blockhoppers

amber zephyr
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Blockhopper

stable lion
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guys is this mario fully completed ?

wraith gust
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No

stable lion
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when can it be completed ?

wraith gust
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When it's finished

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rich palm
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Let her cook is all I can say

polar fjord
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He’s back

bronze shell
wraith gust
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Why the hell is that kid everywhere

lapis lark
fathom kraken
ocean pivot
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hello i want the download link on Android please

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my mom is kinda homeless

rich palm
lapis lark
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the kamek fight reminds me of the builder powerup from mario maker

rich palm
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Rewatching the videos and seeing that you reverted the Boos back to the NDS sprite is based

tall umbra
rich palm
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At this point, she's gonna have to make an intro disclaimer

wraith gust
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That's not gonna help at all, you can literally tell them in their faces that the hack is not released and they will still ask for a download link, that's just how people is

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That's why every time I receive a comment asking for a download link, I simply ignore it

rich palm
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Fair; tbh I'm just surprised people are that dense

wraith gust
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Some people really really want to play the hack, I don't blame them, but c'mon dude, patience is a virtue

fossil token
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Another reason I should have a team

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That way I could just focus on the coding

wide furnace
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i could have suggested if you wanted me to make some levels, but i can't even make progress on TRQ 😭

wraith gust
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If I wasn't too busy with my own hack I would probably make one or two levels

mental slate
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I like making mario

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:D

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found the wm music table

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021a5ecc

wide furnace
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is it gonna be for parallel w3?

lapis lark
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It also includes the jingle that gets played when you collect all star coins or smth

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Toxic kid lmao

lapis lark
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while it would be nice if the hammer could pass through semi-solids from the underside, there are definitely more polite ways of saying this

wide furnace
# fossil token Toxic kid lmao

if you're talking about the "the hammer suit is kinda trash", to me it comes off more as a somewhat poor english word usage rather than toxicity. it's the only word for which that applies though, but considering the "kinda" before, and the suggestion given right after, i don't think it's meant to be toxic. someone who would want to be toxic would end their comment at "trash" and not give the suggestion

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i know that i once said "this is kinda shitty" when i wanted to say that it looked bad (in a comment of my own level), without knowing what the word actually meant. so that might be similar, but idk

lapis lark
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fair point

wraith gust
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I honestly agree, I don't see any toxicity in this comment, but it could definitely have been worded better, lol

wide furnace
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alright gotta check the definition for semantics
edit: done

wide furnace
warped briar
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What?

fossil token
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when they hit ground they get destroyed

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they dont go through solids

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like any other projectile based powerup in this hack

warped briar
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That's very weird

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Why is that?

analog oracle
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i don’t see why it’s weird

warped briar
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Because hammers never break on terrain in any of the 2D games

wide furnace
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no i think the issue is that they break when touching the semisolids from below

warped briar
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That's one of their most noteworthy attributes

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I'm just confused on why they break on contact with terrain at all

wide furnace
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(the video has the timestamp)

wraith gust
wide furnace
warped briar
wraith gust
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We already had this conversation before with the semisolids man

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Not everything needs to follow Nintendo's standarts

wide furnace
wide furnace
warped briar
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I'm curious to hear the thought process behind that decision

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Because I personally cannot really see why this is anything but a downgrade

wide furnace
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it also acts as a shell tho, and there are a lot of projectile powerups in the hack already. making it able to kill any enemy, AND be able to hide in the shell, AND making it so the projectiles phase through blocks, just make it an overpowered powerup

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also it can be used to hit/break brick blocks, and hit question blocks

warped briar
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It would be more consistent for them to break on ground if they also interact with blocks

wide furnace
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yes that too

warped briar
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Not sure what the point of making them hit blocks is tho

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But there can be an appeal to it, ig

fossil token
warped briar
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Well, I'd say that having one collide with terrain while the other goes through it would make both stand out more

wide furnace
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That’s why I don’t like whenever this debate comes up

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Unlike most other hacks that have a crap tone of code I actually have levels done

warped briar
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Does the go through walls things affect levels that much?

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The whole part where it breaks blocks, and collects coins

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And being able to kill enemies through walls will break stuff

warped briar
wide furnace
ocean pivot
wide furnace
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i'm bad at summarizing and when i have a specific idea i tend to overexplain sometimes

mental slate
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People are used to seeing hammers go through blocks in mario because that’s what hammers do in mario

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Illy hammers don’t go through blocks because she does whatever she wants

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Thats why there are celeste blocks and a dive mechanic !

wide furnace
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that too

mental slate
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If i added a hammer suit to mario i would make them go through blocks

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But i would also make them trigger event blocks so they can activate kaizo setups

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But i would also not add hammers to mario because it’s too much code

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:D

civic cloud
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Tbf hammers do interact with ground and blocks in Odyssey

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And in Super Mario Advance 4 there's a special stone block that gets broken by hammers

fossil token
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the metal cap theme, ballon mario theme and stuff like that in the 64ds sound bank really makes me want to make those lol

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and I wanna use the mega shroom theme from 64ds as the mega shroom music

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small things liek this can be what make it feel off

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its small but it ends ip making a big diffrence lol

north garnet
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polar fjord
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ok

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Ima yoink this

mental slate
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wow illy STEALING

tranquil fossil
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where is the downlaod bro

mental slate
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Download de new++ para android..

lapis lark
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I want to replace the item actor with one that uses 3d models soon

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for two reasons

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  1. I want full control over the item actor and what comes out of tripple blocks and normal blocks
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  1. Since it will look better when the game is scaled up
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and how things look when the game is scaled up is smth I care about quite a bit

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gonna leave this here incase I delete them, its just nsmbwii model rips

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this is me procrastinating and not wanting to study lol

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that looks kinda jank lol

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im hoping it will be fine in game

fossil token
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the idea is that I want it to start flying like a para koopa when it gets out of the box

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shit, forgot red star

olive owl
polar fjord
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so ordinary

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damn, looks pretty nice

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gonna go study for a bit then continue this

polar fjord
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how the fuck

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that's so peak

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time to boot up mario maker to check how the mushrooms animation as it moves is meant to look since grabing my switch 2 is the fastest way of testing

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wait it just uses pngs

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eww

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showing the mushrooms in 2x, 1x and 4x res

olive owl
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3D powerups is cursed but looks good

wraith gust
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Looks nice, but I wonder if this would cause performance issues, like, would the game crash if there's a bunch of powerups on a single screen?

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And also, when would there be a shit tone of powerups on screen?

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# olive owl 3D powerups is cursed but looks good

There are a couple reasons why I’m doing it

  1. Multiplayer, so I can have two down at once if it detects two players
  2. So I can remove the bubble powerups that always have to be loaded that eat a shit town of vram
  3. Since I have the room for all of these extra polygons to be drawn
  4. Since nsmbwii models are pretty compressed
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If I do have performance issues I can always try to reallocate resources when needed

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And that problem is usauly tied to amount of actors rather than polygons, both can cause lag though

wraith gust
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also, the cheat code will end up spawning the og items

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since this is another system that I plan on overwriting the ? block spawns with, the old one will still exsist for the mega mushroom so I dont have to rewrite that lmao

wraith gust
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I thought you weren't using the mega mushroom in your hack, I don't recall you using it in any of the videos I've seen

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Or at least, not that I remember

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Its more of a

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I dont use it often

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mega shroom houses still exist and you can still get them from mao blocks and hammer bros

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those will need to be edited now that I think of it, same with roulette blocks

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if im to lazy to model the hammer flower ill just stick a png of the hammer head onto a fire flower stem

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I just remembered that I gotta add bah points

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I cant be fucked making the claw more detalied

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okay, I think this is decent

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might make the stem a bit shorter

polar fjord
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holy peak

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lmao, it blends in with the bg so much

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wait looks like I fucked it up lmao

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neary got it

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just has one messed up face

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hammer flower done

amber zephyr
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The poweruos are so cute

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Love it!

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so the parashell wingflap anim doesnt work cause of yeah

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I do have another idea though

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I really should be doing this on my pc

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but

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bet comfy

lapis lark
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laptop struggling to handle peak

rich palm
polar fjord
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no

analog oracle
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it feels a bit motionless for how fast the mushrooms themselves r moving

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looks cool doe

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somber gorge
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# fossil token Yes

Well, its actaully called a "OneDown" mushroom in this case, mainly cause thats just what I named the texture, it still functions like a poison mushroom though

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red stars look like ass

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galaxy models are weird

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might remodel from scratch

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wide furnace
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do like the mega mushroom, which uses a 2d plane. though you probably planned that already

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sorry for ping, will be helpful to know sooner cause I couldnt find it

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I ended up just adding some extra models but size isnt perfect

wraith gust
wide furnace
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wraith gust
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Isn't that what you were asking for? I'm 100% sure there's not a 2D mega mushroom in the ROM File Browser

fossil token
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the 3d hit block model that hides the mega shroom when it spawns

analog oracle
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i think it was block something .nsbmd

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ima look for it rq

wraith gust
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Oh, it's I_hatena_block.nsbmd

analog oracle
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yeah that

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thank you

wraith gust
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okay the item from block replacment system is set up

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void replaceSpawn(Item* self) {
    SpawnItem spawnItem = static_cast<SpawnItem>(self->settings & 0x1F);
    if (spawnItem == SpawnItem::MushroomFlower) {
        Actor::spawnActor(410, 0x104, &self->position, 0, 0, 0);
        self->Base::destroy();
    }
    else if (spawnItem == SpawnItem::Star) {
        Actor::spawnActor(410, 0x8, &self->position, 0, 0, 0);
        self->Base::destroy();

    }
    else if (spawnItem == SpawnItem::Coin) {

    }
}```
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this is what im doing, so when its smth I want to keep I just ignore it

wide furnace
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interesting

fossil token
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I could make them spawn anything :3

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Hmm

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Should make a video called “Larry in a box”

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And do a massive click bait thumbnail with a massive red arrow pointing to a block with a pic of Larry’s face in a red circle at the end of the arrow

wide furnace
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make a "can mario collect 999 superball flowers/flying blue shells in nsmbds" video marioready

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-# though the hardware probably can't handle it idk

fossil token
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Got all of the ? Blocks working

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I can also add non progressive powerups if I want

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Like I had before with the super ball and hammer

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Those are now progressive and both can be spawned from blocks in the same level which is so nice

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big spring in a block

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this is cursed but it will be fun for bonus rooms

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damn, I forgot to add support for blocks pooping items instead of spawning them

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this is so much work lol

wraith gust
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That vine looks a little cursed, lmao

fossil token
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yeah, the graphic was the smm one but it just got fucked up lol

fossil token
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so, I want to make the powerups have different sounds for when you collect them/change to that state, any ideas for superball flower, hammer flower and parashell?

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I was thinking the mario land powerup sfx for superball but it doesnt sound to great

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might try the smw one for parashell

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I cant be stuffed

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sound effects are hard without making them take so much ram

delicate bramble
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with the voice of the player

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but i think is a bit stressfull for the ram because you will need sfx for mario luigi yoshi ecc,

wide furnace
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yea it would probably be even worse

wide furnace
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Yet another New++ super mario bros showcase, item models are ripped from nsmbwii with samll optimisation and compressed textures, the hammer model was made by me which is why its really bad, the parashell model is litrally just the powerup that renders on the player since I couldnt attach a normal blue shell model to the nsmbwii wings and keep t...

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polar fjord
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so peak

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🥹

lapis lark
rich palm
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I'm a little scared of the Poison Mushroom ngl

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Bc mark my words, Illy's gonna do some evil shit with it

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I wanna use them kinda like an enemy in a level

fossil token
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Replaying smb3 for inspiration

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Might also replay Mario world and 3d land

fossil token
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just finisheed smb3

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and I got some new ideas

fossil token
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damn, this is pretty solid

fossil token
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this shit is cursed

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I need to add a version that doesnt render a block for the 3d ones

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and that random hit block texture is just a random leftover from when I was obssesed with newer four years ago

fossil token
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thats the block graphics for when they are hit fixed

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not the spawn cover, them leaving behinde diffrent blocks

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I think the Rouletteblock cou,d just use a whole rewrite tbh

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  1. dont wanna deal with oam rendering
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  1. dont wanna have to add support for the other items to it
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peak content 🔥🔥🔥

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polar fjord
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they don’t do that

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that’s the rotten mushroom

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🤓

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damn, I wake up and check my channel and 2.5k views

olive owl
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Illy when the cool project is cool

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🤯

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The thing that sucks though is I can’t really upload stuff that is slop anymore or else my channel dies for a while

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And I guess the click bait thumbnail helped a lot

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But it's more like Deep Cheep

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It moves forward but leans in the player's direction

polar fjord
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not in the 2d games

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I do want to add the rotten mushroom as well

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And 3up moons

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I was thinking

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I kinda wanna do 3d loop as and goombas as well, only thing is what koopa model do I use?

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I could use the early koopa model

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It I was also thinking maybe I could use the climbing koopa model

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And right it to the early koopa armature

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Idk though

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I just wanna have big koopa and goombas that are consistent with the small ones

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Oh yeah

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And for the wings I can just use the nsmbwii wings and attach them to the back bone like nsmbwii does

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# polar fjord not in the 2d games

That's because the space to do this doesn't exist, it's just like how Goombas only charge in your general direction in 3D without properly targeting you

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There is also sm64 ds

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okay, so it looks like I can overwrite regions of code

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so I can just overwrite all the part of overlay whatever thats dedicated to the Rouletteblock and the spike block dupes

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that way I dont have to worry about the rewrites eating to much ram

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the game does not like when part of overlay 54 is overwritten

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okay the logic for this actor is fun, im tryna solve it

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since im making every nybble of its settings a bool to say what actors are in the box

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so I need to write a for loop that checks the bool[8] array thats values are set to true if that actor is set

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and for loops are one of my week points :p

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shouldnt be hard though

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ended up making them a bit bigger

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just so I can fit the models in them

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making a good locking block is hard

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if anybody wants to have a go at it feel free to

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its a 32x32 but the block is like 24x24

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anyways

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I think this looks good enough

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Oh yeah

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I’m using some space in arm9 where minigame crap is to fit more code into it

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That’s why I can get away with this as a actor

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Likely a combination of (1) given how common they are, they didn't want to worry about performance issues if they decided to put a bunch in the same area and (2) since co-op was originally what the multiplayer mode was gonna be, they likely ran into slowdown with all of it being 3D models

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Yeah that's pretty much the reason

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Although with that in mind I'm surprised Cheep Cheeps appeared in models but not Boos despite Cheep Cheeps being more common

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It's probably cuz of the big Cheep Cheeps also appearing

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Don’t forget that ballon boos have a setting to act like a normal big boo which uses a lot of the same code that boos do

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Interesting, how does that work? Do they just not deflate?

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It's really interesting

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I just realized now that Balloon Boos move faster than Boos

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Half the enemies in this game look awful on an emulator even though they look fine ingame

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It’s sadly trvth

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Fortunately the average new++ player will be on PC or android

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nsmbds

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Goombas look like cardboard cutouts while dry bones are an aliased mess, mini mario’s face disappears when he jumps…

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I usauly play on 3ds so models look a lot better

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Goombas do look bad though

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Mini Mario looks fine on 3ds

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these blocks are a nightmare

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I might just not use them

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making them spawn the right thing is hell