New++ Super Mario Bros

[fossil token]

it already is more squareish than the normal

I think this is the best I have done so far

[wraith gust]

Ye that seems better

[fossil token]

cant believe that I fat all the tiles into this space, it makes my life so much easier. Im debating if I should add bg rocks though

I feel like the background being animated is enough

[fossil token]

now, the last thing I need to start working on the final level is to make a portal so I can make the cutscene, Im probs gonna try and make smth like this

I can probs pull it off with two nsbtx's

[fossil token]

wait, this might do the trick

yeah, this will do the trick

[fossil token]

this looks pretty cool

[wraith gust]

That goes so hard

[fossil token]

here is the animated version

now I need to make jr turn it on and jump into it

and also make it warp the player to

I wanted this to be caste-arrow

but there isnt a graphic for the arrow on the bottom screen

[vernal thicket]

could you replace the pipe graphic with an arrow one

[analog oracle]

@ocean pivot reply to this too

[fossil token]

https://youtube.com/shorts/FsvosfjAYDM?feature=share and this cutscene is all you get to see of the final level

unless I need advice on graphics

[ocean pivot]

Self made tilesets that are actually good, about the least one I don't want to say it since it will be improved most likely, if not then I will say what I meant here

[fossil token]

What is it?

I want to know if its on my todo list

[rich palm]

My least favourite thing is a nitpick that may be fixed by now idk, and that's Podoboos making normal particles in blue lava

My favourite thing is the sheer variety of theming and gimmicks and how it pushes the ROM to its limits

A nitpick may be a weird thing to say, but it's bugged me for way too long and I'd feel like a dick for saying it any other time

[fossil token]

Well, looks like the game broke somehow and a shit tone of stuff isnt working

I think I have to much stuff in arm9 again

[fossil token]

I want to fix that but I havent gotten around to looking for where the particals are spawn

and the rom isnt really struggling btw

im far from the limit

yeah this portal scene is killing the game, im gonna try putting it into an overlay with mortong and crap and see if that helps

[fossil token]

And I cant put this bitch in an overlay or else his files dont load properly, time to come up with a new idea

gonna try putting pow blocks into overlay 62

[wide furnace]

good luck, all of this seems difficult to deal with

[fossil token]

got it

[fossil token]

yeah

its an absolute pain

[stoic lava]

She cooked!! 🔥

[fossil token]

Nah

[stoic lava]

Yea*

[fathom kraken]

You Cooked, that actually looks super cool

[lapis lark]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-buzzer-gif-2734535025370049889

[lapis lark]

https://tenor.com/view/fr-lie-gif-9063740662564569899

[verbal topaz]

Mario Run moveset

[stoic lava]

Unironically i love that game

[tall umbra]

Does this mod have lore?

[fathom kraken]

It has, I think Illy explained it once

[fossil token]

yes

[tall umbra]

Can I get a short summary of it

[cloud pilot]

Its at the end of the Mario timeline

There is are many endings

[civic cloud]

You should imo

[fossil token]

Im keeping most of it secret for when I make the cutscenes and release the game, but here is the short story.
After Bowser is killed, jr takes over bowsers army and chellenges mario to one last fight at bowsers grave. At the end of w1 you do the normal final boss but its against jr and dry bowser instead of normal bowser then bowser jr runs off to the other worlds and does his thing. Then at the end of 8-castle bowser jr opens up a portal to a fake reality were the multiple endings can be accsessed in the painfull hour long level

[wide furnace]

i thought this was a handheld game/hack 😭

[fossil token]

it is

[wide furnace]

i was saying that for the 1h-long level tho

[fossil token]

it has a shit tone of checkpoints and I plan on adding a menu which lets you start the level from any checkpoint you have unlocked

[wide furnace]

oh okay then

[fossil token]

yeah its kinda my alternitive to world 9 since I couldnt pull it off

[fossil token]

who wants to help me shove mr ztardust in here

well in here

this is more visable for yall

Long story short, ztars are traped inside these breakers which power jrs fake reality

yes, that triangle with the lightning icon is borrowed from celeste

[fossil token]

finally working on a level that actauly uses the parashell lmao

I love how this looks visauly

its such a grind tiling all of this though

[fossil token]

I got a game design question, whats your thoughts on if I put the cassette bonus room before the secret exit room?

its usauly common for star coins to not be places there

but in this case I feel like it could add more length to the secret exit path

[fathom kraken]

I think It's alright cause the cassetes are kinda like starcoins

[fossil token]

but its bad to have star coins on secret exit paths as thats lazy

im mixed on it, because the cassetes are not really star coins but they also kind of are

[fathom kraken]

Yeah I hate when levels do that

[fossil token]

I dont think ima do it, ill just keep it as an option if I cant come up with a good secret exit placement

[fathom kraken]

You could make a secret bonus room in a bonuss room

Kinda what pizza tower does

[fossil token]

I also dont want to keep secret exits as a flag pole, im debating if I want to make them a crystal heart or a smw key hole or a goal tape

[fathom kraken]

The key hole could be more easy to pull off

Or the cristal heart

[fossil token]

the key holes could add more puzle but the crystal hearts means I could put them behinde hard platforming

tiling this shit is such a pain, Im kidna tempted to fork nsmbe and code an auto tiling system, but that wouldnt even work with a tile set like this

[fathom kraken]

Something like the level editor Rimea uses?

Or smm

[vernal thicket]

are you placing all the in-ground deco manually

[fossil token]

im lazy

[fossil token]

wonder doesnt have tile sets

its node based and tiles automatically, thats just how wonder works

[fathom kraken]

So thats why modding Wonder is more easy

[fossil token]

decided im gonna link the secret exit onto the cassette room, I decided I can make the pipe cannon shoot the player high into the atmosphere where 2-castle takes place and I guess I can also make 2-cannon take place there

so it kind of connects both the levels

I made this cassette room easy because im feeling lazy

this is so lazy lol

[wide furnace]

i don't get the link between star coins and the rest

[fathom kraken]

Cause they're collectibles

[warped briar]

Cassette?

[fossil token]

these things

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Or3Ftq5XkoU

[warped briar]

What are they and how do they work

[fossil token]

they are a collectable that unlocks the levels B side

aka another level that uses the same gimick but a lot harder

[warped briar]

They teleport you?

Does that mean they're always in a bonus room or how does that work

[fossil token]

You can select any entrance in the zone for it to teleport the player to, so if I didnt want it to tp the player I could just place the entrance over it

[warped briar]

What matters is how you're using them

Do you typically have them at the end of bonus rooms that you can't enter again

[fossil token]

they respawn in the collected state upon reloading the room

but if the player respawns in the same zone it wont be there

[warped briar]

So sometimes they're just out of the way in the main zone

I presume they always take you back to were you diverged from the main path then?

[fossil token]

yeah

[warped briar]

Interesting

[warped briar]

So what would this entail then?

A bonus section you can do while you're going towards the secret exit

[rich palm]

I still think this stage looks peak

[fossil token]

Does this tile and the colour it is look alright for a background rock?

[fossil token]

I love it too, I just havent finished it yet

[stoic lava]

Yep

[fossil token]

what about to the other half of the tile set?

[fathom kraken]

Gives me matrix vibes

[fossil token]

I tried also making corrupted castle tiles but they didnt look to great

so I just did a tile design simmiler to celeste and used mostly the same colours

lore reason it exsists is one you free more and more ztars the level starts to break down more and more

making it a bit darker so it stands out against the castle tiles more

[stoic lava]

Yea looks good too

Looks kinda green-cyan-ish but not bad!

[analog oracle]

neat, maybe make it a bit more lighter and saturated

[fossil token]

I honestly think darker, but I also want it to be colourful. Im just drawing them first then from there Ill do some hue shifting and stuff to try and get it right

[stoic lava]

Btw its suposed to be space or that celeste tileset?

Idk the name its the blue one

Wait nah the blue one iirc u already did

I was talking about this

[fossil token]

what about it?

im confussed

now I gotta do background tiles

although I do want to try and fall asleep agaun before work

so ima call it here for now

[stoic lava]

I thought this tileset youre making was this one, but then i remembered u already did it for the w2-1 level

Ngl i really need to play celeste rather than just watch small gameplays, the game seens really fun

[rich palm]

Ngl I love those glitched tiles

[ocean pivot]

What drawing program do you use?

[warped briar]

Generally, I think it's for a good part determined by the background

[fossil token]

whatever I feel like that day, I usually use paint.net, pixlr, or adobe photo shop and sometimes aseprite

[fossil token]

Wanna grind out this hack but I got work

Why must I have a job and responsibilities

[civic cloud]

You already have so many things going on aside from the hack as a highschooler, a JOB on top of all that? Damn, overachiever over here 😭

I'm genuinely impressed btw, keep up the good work

And take all the time you need

[fossil token]

more map16ing

dang, only 130 objects

[fathom kraken]

Only?

[fossil token]

most of my tile sets have ~200

[fathom kraken]

Damn

[fossil token]

I still have so much space in this tile set too

[fossil token]

tiling this shit is a nightmare

[ocean pivot]

Have you seen my island tileset? That was also an nightmare 💀

great job on this tileset illy, i love it

[fossil token]

easy gameplay :3

[fossil token]

mine is only gonna get worse later into this level

at the half hour makr of the level, or whatever the checkpoint halfway is these tiles start to get mixed in because the player has collected more and more ztars so the dimension is getting more and more unstable

[rich palm]

Ngl now I wanna make a virtual reality level

Bc those tiles look sick

[warped briar]

Maxed out adhd stat

[wraith gust]

It is actually easy 🥱 , make it harder

[wide furnace]

being nice to a bitter boy like him
-# only continuing the first half of the message. i hope somebody gets the reference

[warped briar]

Can you touch the sides of spikes in this game?

[stoic lava]

Yea

[warped briar]

Now I'm kinda wondering if the reason why horizontal spikes in this game are half normal blocks is to make it clear that you can stand on them

[stoic lava]

You can actually stand all the top part of a spike, unless you touch the part its facing at

But yea good point u build up here

[wide furnace]

maybe

[warped briar]

I always used to wonder shy they decided to design horizontal and vertical spikes differently like that

It could very much still be a visual choice tho

Floors are always pretty flat, while walls are often rounded, so it could definitely look weird in some instances if the spikes came out of the walls

[fossil token]

:3

[fossil token]

yeah, I belive it is

8-tower 1 of ds is a good example of why

[fossil token]

what do yall think of using this lighting here?

found a weird bug, sseq's with an id of 127(i think, may be 112) in new++ dont continue if the next view has the same song

they restart instead

[rich palm]

It looks really cool

[fossil token]

Yeah, I might showcase ?-1 on my yt

the level design is really abstract like I want and looks really cool

and it doesnt have any story, so I think its fine to showcase

[fossil token]

https://youtu.be/q63mTYXS0Ho

[lapis lark]

W

[wide furnace]

imo it feels a bit odd

tho it does help making it feel less empty too

[fathom kraken]

Will you change the log's texture?

[fossil token]

That’s what I’m going for

It’s meant to be really abstract

[tepid temple]

not abstract enough for it to work I think

[fossil token]

fair

I feel like its also a bit to much

[fossil token]

saving this here for later

[fossil token]

also taking note of this

[fossil token]

got smth I wanted to do done

[vernal thicket]

pretty

[fathom kraken]

Looks so good

[fossil token]

this is so trippy

lol

[lapis lark]

that is so cool

[fossil token]

oh no lol

[fossil token]

I really want to make an animated black hole background but I cant get the background to spin :c

[fathom kraken]

Like a 3d plane or...

Spin in 2d?

[wide furnace]

SNES Mode 7 ahh

[stoic lava]

But iirc black holes dont spin irl, unless they have a really big acrettion disk

[fossil token]

its not really a black hole

more so a rip in space time

[stoic lava]

Ah

[warped briar]

Is the Ninji a sprite

[quaint gorge]

Have you tried custom animated backgrounds before?

Not moving or rotating it but actually animated pixels

[tepid temple]

Very nice

[tepid temple]

If you mean changing the speed at which certain portions of the background scroll (for clouds, for example), that's easy

[quaint gorge]

Nah, I mean the background color for example changing or waterfall animation etc.

[stoic lava]

Palletes animations?

[analog oracle]

touch fuzzy get dizzy

[tall umbra]

I feel dizzy from that

Also the background reminds me of smw night theme

[quaint gorge]

No, not really, animated background with frames

Each frame something differs

[tepid temple]

It's technically a model

Because nobody likes dealing with OAM

[iron igloo]

should figure out how to draw actors with OAM

[analog oracle]

someone please show how one could do that i beg 😭🙏

[iron igloo]

well I’d just need to look at how goombas do it - I would say they use their own members for it

or probably a stageentity helper member

since UI OAM is mainly BNCL generated

and setup of an OAM sprite without using the helpers made for enemies would suck

[fossil token]

it probably wouldnt be to hard, I pulled some stuff off for the bottom screen but it sucked

[warped briar]

So a model that's just a flat plane?

Is there a noticable difference between that and it actually being a sprite?

[fossil token]

We can also make them just model texture data, but I was really lazy and didnt want to even draw a nsbtx when I wrote them

[fossil token]

I just rememberd I got to deal with more bottom screen oam soon when I add the cassette collected icon

[fossil token]

I don’t understand comments like these two

Also, my temptation to code a new powerup grows, I don’t know if I wanna do ice or bubble or smth new

[fathom kraken]

I think the first one didn't understand that your chanel is a Romhacking channel

😭

[fathom kraken]

I can't think of very good level Gimmicks with the bee powerup from Galaxy

Can*

[stoic lava]

Do both ig

[fossil token]

I should lol

I should honestly ask will how the custom items work so I don’t have to do the bubble powerup system and make these powerups public

I’m keeping the bubble system for new++ though

[analog oracle]

i think you could maybe make the cloud flower from galaxy but im not sure how simple that would be, but it could definetely allow for lots of creativity especially in challenge levels
-# on the topic of powerups, could you send me your code to extend the amount of powerups? i feel motivated to start working on bubble flower for flower journey sometime soon

[fossil token]

My code is a mess lol

I’ll try to help you at later today after my school athletics carnival

I’m racing the 400m, 800m, 1.5k and 3k so I’ll help if I’m not dead

[stoic lava]

I wish i knew adding more powerups so i would do bubble flower too lmao

[fossil token]

I need to rework the powerup player pal crap for more powerups which will be a pain

[tepid temple]

rendering OAM is simple

adding all the attributes is a bitch

[quaint gorge]

^ correct and I have run into an issue

It has a different offset when I die and replay the level and I dont get why

[tepid temple]

what 💀

[analog oracle]

make a tutorial

-# whats with the seams on the emojis 😭

[quaint gorge]

Bitmap slots change

The fence tiles are at place x and suddenly when I die and play the level again it's somewhere else on the bitmap

They're at the top

Here they're gone

Had the stupid idea to offset it in code when player died once

Did work until it didn't it's not always moved to the same different place 😭

[tepid temple]

tf

[tepid temple]

don't know enough

I could give you my setup for adding new oam attributes and rendering, though

[analog oracle]

can be good enough

[fossil token]

Smth simmiler happens to me with my reserve powerup platforms, sometimes they load a different palatte and the top of the pedestal is black

[civic cloud]

Bubble seems easier so start with that, but I'm more interested in seeing ice

[fossil token]

was messing around with smth and I dont even think the diffrence in the amount of colours here will be noticable in game

[fossil token]

Im to dead to work on this, running 6km after not having done long distance in a year and a half killed me

I hope I have some energy to work on it later today

[fossil token]

dang, I think I made a pretty good one

and I still have like 1000 colours to work with for other powerup states

[vernal thicket]

are you hand quantizing these

[fossil token]

yeah, this should work well, I still gotta do this for the rest of the charecters though

[fossil token]

I hand pick the colours then copy paste with nitro paint

[vernal thicket]

ah gotcha

[fossil token]

getting the colours right can be kinda hard sometimes lol

hope these colours are right

after I finish mario and luigis crap im gonna force ndy to do his own pals or else ima cut him from the hack

[olive owl]

[fossil token]

super ball looks good enough

[olive owl]

Give me a list of powerups and I’ll come up with something

Red star kinda tricky because my normal palette is red star Mario lmao

[fossil token]

this is trippy

I might be able to pull this off

[lapis lark]

it kinda looks like a giant eye watching your every move

[wide furnace]

hmm familiar...

[tall umbra]

Is that supposed to be a black hole?

It looks cool though

[fossil token]

more of a rip in space time

this was just a graphic I through together in a few min to test it out

it looks like this lol

[wide furnace]

i thought it was

[rich palm]

Earthbound battle backgrounds be like:

[fossil token]

I’m kind of feel like reviving the demo now tbh

[ocean pivot]

that has extreme potential for great backgrounds

[fossil token]

yeah, the hardest thing with this is trying to line up this cricle right

another quick test

smth like this but with the rift being on the bottom layer and particals on the top layer moving at a diffrent speed could be really effective

or maybe having the outer rings of the rift on the layer below so they rotate slower

[wide furnace]

do you plan on doing the latter at some point later or do you only ever implement one of the two in the hack?

[fossil token]

dont know yet, it honestly depends how much I can extend the powerup tables and if I have the palettes for it on the bottom screen

[wide furnace]

okay

[rich palm]

Tbh both sound interesting

I'm inclined to say ice tho

[rich palm]

Giving me Distortion World vibes

The final boss is clearly meant to be Giratina /j

[lapis lark]

the bubble flower could be interesting for levels but i like the ice flower more so im voting that

[analog oracle]

i vote ice flower cause of flower journey already going to have bubble flower /j
ok seriously speaking though i think ice flower is just overall more interesting to see, it would also allow for cool platforming if you design some levels around it (eg freezing bullet bills and etc, or picking up ice blocks that you need to throw at small gaps)

[stoic lava]

I personally preffered bubble flower on my mod because its new and i have ideas of gimmicks to build arround it, but for n++ ig ice flower would be way more interesting so i voted for it

[blazing jungle]

damn bubble 0 votes

[onyx lantern]

bubble should have gotten votes, i feel like it would be easier to code into the game

but i only picked ice flower cuz its more well-known

[cloud pilot]

Wait, doesnt new++ have a shocked mario, when he hits those amps, right?

So can't you just recicle the code to make a frozen mario

Like, just shock mario and make an transparent blueish rectangle appear on top of him

[fossil token]

?

why would mario need to be frozen anyways?

the thing about ice is that I need to make frozen states for enemies

or just make an actor that deals with it

[fossil token]

yeah im reviving the demo

[lapis lark]

yay 🎉

[fossil token]

debating if I should have the B side cassettes in it though

they wont unlock anything

so I feel like it would be kinda weird

[civic cloud]

I agree, it seems easier to code since it just either defeats the enemy it touches or it doesn't, ice has a wide variety of interactions, but my lil bro told me the ice stuff isn't that difficult to program and Illy has done a lot of complex things already, so I trust that the ice wouldn't overwhelm her much

[civic cloud]

You could add Ice Bros 👀

[warped briar]

Isn't the Bubble Flower the one that is more platforming focussed

[analog oracle]

yeah, but ice flower can also have platforming with it too

[warped briar]

I guess

Not really a lot tho

You can freeze enemies and land on them, but most of the time you could just as well jump on them

[verbal topaz]

First comment was probably meant to be a reply to this one

[fossil token]

Oh yeah, if you want to be a play tester of the demo dm me, I want to keep it small and put it all in a gc even though its the same levels I just dont wnt people to have access to a rom with the tri-inventory code yet

The only main changes are that I through morton and kamack in as boss fights for airships and the new inv system

[ocean pivot]

omg ice definitly

especially since frosty and jpg plan to have jt

And there was only one codehack that wasn't very perfect ice flower lol

I'm a ice flower lover too lol, I was already thinking of it before for my hack if I would start it

I hope freezed sprites won't be a big problem for you

[fossil token]

That is the main problem

I do t know if I’ll have the vram to do them

A lot of things will need to be immune to them, probably bosses and beeg enemies

[fossil token]

yay

this looks alright

just need to fix up the box

[fathom kraken]

Isn't the cassete blue? Or it changes depending on the theme?

[fossil token]

Im stuck with using whatever colours my bottom screen powerups use

[fossil token]

gotta love slight problems, for example, how the hell has this already been collected

[fossil token]

slight control update, yoshis flutter has been bound to L + R so the dive can be on L

[warped briar]

You don't flutter from just holding the jump button?

[fossil token]

nope

taking note of this for later

[warped briar]

Is there a specific reason for why

[fossil token]

So you don’t start fluttering if you hold a

It’s annoying as hell imo

Also so you have more control over when it starts

A key press is faster then a key hold

[warped briar]

It's an interesting thing to change considering that is how it has worked in every game so far

So do you have to press both shoulder buttons to flutter

[fossil token]

Yup

[fossil token]

Well, it isn’t really on any game that came out before this so I don’t think it matters

Left trigger on grounds long jump

Left trigger in air is dive

Right trigger is twirl

And parashell updraft

So both at once is yoshi flutter

[warped briar]

Parawhat draft

[fossil token]

The main powerup this mod is built around, the parashell, the first thing I coded for this mod, it’s a propeller suit blue shell hybrid

[warped briar]

Ah

So there is dive, twirl and flutter?

As Yoshi

[fossil token]

Yup

Makes some of the b sides more playable for less skilled players

Since diving and twirling is needed to beat a lot of those levels

[warped briar]

And they all pretty much have dedicated triggers rather than being more context dependent

[fossil token]

Well long jump and dive share a trigger, if your on ground you long jump then depending on the direction you hold it will correlate to which one of the dive dives you do

Then the twirl is only when the player is in the air and when r is pressed

The updraft overrides the twirl

And can be used from in the ground

[warped briar]

Quite the moveset

I do think holding jump to flutter is a lot more intuitive than pressing both shoulder buttons at the same time

[ocean pivot]

Yeah, bosses and big ones shouldn't be able to, does really some small 2D sprite (if you will make it as a sprite) take so much v-ram?

i mean the ice blocks of enemies

[warped briar]

What about the particles from the ice breaking

Idk how much that would take up, especially if you spam freeze a big enemy or boss

[analog oracle]

i think it doesnt take up that much vram but if it uses the 3d engine it definetely takes up more than a sprite in the 2d engine

[stoic lava]

Probably none

[fossil token]

rotated the wrong bg layer lol

[stoic lava]

Lowkey Peak tho

[fossil token]

The bottom bg layer cant be rotated

bloody hell

only bg layers 2 & 3 can be

and they are the fg and tileset

bg 1 & 2 cant

I could swap the bg layers for this level but I also cant be fucked, so I might try to simulate the rotation with scrolling the bottom bg

[fossil token]

im getting there

[tall umbra]

Looks good

[fossil token]

the bottom layer looks awful

new plan, I decided to center it

so now I dont really need another layer

I might use the tile overflow bug to get a higher qaulity image

i think i should leave this here

working on this is driving me crazy

[analog oracle]

rotate the whole camera and done

[fossil token]

Discount wonder effect

[fossil token]

started working on the demo trailer again

[lapis lark]

i looked at the image before reading the actual message and thought u were making a level where the entire thing is a slope lol

[ocean pivot]

Nice, i really love this type of trailers

i would've done the same thing if i were the one making the trailer for nsmbaba

[fossil token]

Same

I don’t know how long I should make the trailer though lol

[ocean pivot]

Imo 1 minute is enough

[fossil token]

yeah, true

i still dont know what clips I wanna show

there is so much to new++

[thick coral]

are you planning on doing the demo

again

[wraith gust]

Yes

[thick coral]

thats amazing

I'm sure that Illy got the motivation to do the demo ever since jpg said to keep on going even if contents get stolen

[fossil token]

Jpg has nothing to do with this his

This is due to my exams b ing on two weeks and I want to start on it so I can have it ready shortly after my exams

[thick coral]

yeah I was just guessing

[thick coral]

Oh ok

[fossil token]

[thick coral]

😬

[quaint gorge]

Yes, n++smb only exists because of jpg. Heck even blazing adventure is only a thing thanks to jpg. He is the beggar grandmother of NSMB hacking.

JPG format only exists because jpg begged for it

[wraith gust]

Fyi, we already stopped with the "JPG beggar" jokes since he already got tired of those jokes and we're also reducing the JPG bullying because of a drama that happened weeks ago

[blazing jungle]

JPG please marry me

-# dont worry this is to ragebait jpg's fanboys

[thick coral]

guys I meant no disrespect to jpg or illy

I referred to this moment

[rich palm]

I like how the hack starts normal enough (minus the slew of custom mechanics), but then veers into more unique themes

[fossil token]

I didn’t want to overwhelm the player with custom stuff

Crack head Larry is enough for w1

[rich palm]

Very fair

[fossil token]

I need to fix the disposable vanilla final boss still because there is a crash I can’t recreate in real hardware

[ocean pivot]

Pindol

[blazing jungle]

exactly

[quaint gorge]

Makes sense, I was inactive, missed all of that

Ill stop with that

[blazing jungle]

That was Ugly, Fuzzy

[vernal thicket]

i wonder who made it

[lapis lark]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-fred-jones-unmasking-mask-original-gif-15500596655549659645

[lapis lark]

when i got out the mushroom from my inventory then recollected it, i got a parashell in my inventory instead

[lapis lark]

i wasnt able to grab this fire flower

[lapis lark]

it seems to turn into whatever powerup i have on

u can dive past the flag pole

also crackhead larry crashed the game

[civic cloud]

New variation of the boss unlocked: Crash-head Larry

[fossil token]

both larry fights crash the game

its caused because the shell was the wrong type of model

its been fixed now

[lapis lark]

i forgot to mention this last night before i fell asleep
sometimes instead of power ups going into reserve they just vanished

[fossil token]

Happens with the shell and fire flower

Power up priority stuff

I still haven’t fully worked out the code for it

[lapis lark]

mario isnt looking so good 😭

managed to make it look like i was completely on the other side
its purely visual and resets after pressing y or jumping

[fossil token]

yeah, need to add some code to set his rotation back to normal when on a fence

Ill send out a new demo patch soonish with fixes to larry and some other things

[fossil token]

Development on new++ is gonna be slow or non exsistent for the next week or so

exams

and I need to cram in as much revision as possiable

[analog oracle]

good luck!

[civic cloud]

Yeah, hope it goes well

Dw about it

It's not like you're dipping for a whole month or something

[fossil token]

I feel like quiting modding entirely rn tbh

[wraith gust]

What? Why?

Is this because of the Skawo incident?

[fossil token]

I had three aggressive dms from his server, I deleted them straight away but one of them was really bad

thank fuck im not here anymore

[wraith gust]

I don't know how heavy the drama is or how aggressive the DM's must be, but I think you seriously shouldn't abandon modding because of this, if anything you could disable DM's and set it to friends only, and give yourself some time to to think about this until you feel in a more stable mental state, we all here appreciate you and your work and people in your YT channel appreciates your work too, don't let all this ruin you just because of a toxic and ignorant community

I really hope you can recover from this

[analog oracle]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ spoken for everybody here honestly, really hope you recover from all this stuff
in any case if it's really neccesary you can take a break from modding till you feel like modding again

[astral tendon]

Don't give up. You're making one of the best NSMB hacks ever.

Better than Newer DS, because you're way better than Skawo's community

[fossil token]

lets just leave it

i dont want the dramma to continue

[stoic lava]

No dont do it, you're doing one of thr best nsmb mods ever :<
And dont do it because of other comunities, remember that we are here to support you!

And youre a nice person too, ik its hard but try dont let it affect you, we dont want to lose u because of some idiots :c

[thick coral]

Illy don't do it

You have a lot of potential

Don't waste your potential because wasted potential is just fucked up

So many people are positive towards you and you're a nice person. 1 or 2 negative messages shouldn't mean that you should stop

They are idiots who has nothing to do in life, prove them wrong and show what potential you have with your nsmb hack.

[stoic lava]

They are not critics, theyre just idiots tbh

[wide furnace]

i don't really wanna be that person but, Illy said that she doesn't want the drama to continue so idk if y'all should keep responding positively or instead just try to forget about it

that being said, i also wanted to say something positive but didn't for this same reason. but i think i'll say it at this point anyway (spoilered in case Illy just wants to forget about it)

||Some people are just idiots. Unfortunately there will always be haters and toxic people no matter how kind you can be. They're just pathetic and miserable, don't listen to them and let them brainrot themselves.

That being said, I feel like you shouldn't quit modding for this. You're probably feeling this way at the moment but you may feel better about it later or in a few days. Nobody should ever make anyone quit modding (directly or indirectly), no matter their skill. You're also a great modder, and are currently developing an amazingly interesting mod of this game. It's also something you seem to really like doing, so I don't think you should give up. Keep going!!||

[tall umbra]

Hopefully everyone here is doing ok

[north garnet]

@fossil token Ignore them. Haters are best reported to the staff. It's not you. You aren't doing anything wrong. Though I do understand you're angry. Please keep up the good work because it's really good!

[stoic lava]

Lets drop it now cuz we will just keep rememberin her what happened

[simple current]

Don’t Leave @fossil token

[wide furnace]

y'all should probably stop pinging her

[stoic lava]

Yea

We dont want she to leave, but we also dont want to annoy her

[lapis lark]

if we annoy her too much she might end up leaving anyways 😅

[wraith gust]

Everyone please stop talking about this, what part of stop didn't yall understand?

JPG shoo

[stoic lava]

I and bester are trying to make them stop but they just cant 😭

[fossil token]

Thanks everyone

You have really helped me mentally

[stoic lava]

We wish the best for you illy 🫂

[civic cloud]

Illy I keep geeking out about your hack and its features with my brothers and my friends

[amber zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-warm-hug-depressed-hug-gif-4585064738068342394

[fathom kraken]

Me too lol

[rich palm]

^^^

[fossil token]

Im just noticing now but I only got like three tile set slots left

I really need to write a code hack to change that but I also dont want to have to change code in nsmbe to allow for more tile set crap

guess i might try it after exams

[wraith gust]

If you manage to find a way to add more tilesets to the game, I'm pretty sure that's something everyone would love to have

[fossil token]

I dont want to add more, I just want to reassign the files that are for duplicates

that parts easy

the nsmbe support is the hard part

also, if someone loops this midi for me it would be appreciated

[vernal thicket]

nsmbe grabs the tileset slot file ids from the tables in overlay0 pretty sure

so id imagine changing thosed be all you need to do

[fossil token]

oh if it reads it from overlay 0 then it would be piss easy

[fossil token]

Well I might try it later tonight

Dang, 90 ‘s you n this channel

Why do people care about such an average rom hack

[vernal thicket]

que makes it average

[lapis lark]

"average"

Welcome back to WatchMojo, where we will be counting down our picks for the top ten lies. Before we get into them, remember to like and subscribe. At number ten, we have Illy calling her hack "average."

[fossil token]

ncp_over(0x020c9584, 0)
static const u32 TS_NCG_TBL[76] = {
    0xbc,       0xc5,       0xbe,       0xb2,
    0xb9,       0x110,      0xbe,       0x111,
    0xbc,       0x108,      0x108,      0x105,
    0xbc,       0xb4,       0xb4,       0x109,
    0x10b,      0xc0,       0xc40b00bf, 0x105,
    0x107,      0xbb,       0x10b,      0xcd,
    0x10a,      0x10a,      0xc0,       0xbc,
    0xc0,       0xc60c0104, 0x103,      0x112,
    0xc5,       0xb4,       0xbc,       0xc10800b0,
    0xaf,       0xb6,       0xb7,       0xc2,
    0xcc,       0xc30b00c5, 0x10c,      0x10d,
    0x10e,      0xc5,       0x10f,      0xc1,
    0x108,      0xc3,       0xb4,       0x105,
    0xbe,       0xbe,       0x105,      0xb5,
    0x109,      0x110,      0xc6,       0xb8,
    0x106,      0xc4,       0xc3,       0xbd,
    0x107,      0xbe,       0x107,      0xbb,
    0xbb,       0xbb,       0xbb,       0xbb,
    0xbb,       0xb1,       0xba,       0xbc
};

ncp_over(0x020c9b74, 0)
static const u32 TS_NCL_TBL[76] = {
    0x170,      0xc30c0179, 0x172,      0x166,
    0x16d,      0x1b2,      0x172,      0x1b3,
    0x170,      0x1aa,      0x1aa,      0x1a7,
    0x170,      0x168,      0x168,      0x1ab,
    0x1ad,      0x174,      0xc40c0173, 0x1a7,
    0x1a9,      0x16f,      0x1ad,      0x181,
    0x1ac,      0x1ac,      0x174,      0x170,
    0x174,      0xc60d01a6, 0x1a5,      0x1b4,
    0x179,      0x168,      0x170,      0xc1090164,
    0x163,      0x16a,      0x16b,      0x176,
    0x180,      0xc30c0179, 0x1ae,      0x1af,
    0x1b0,      0x179,      0x1b1,      0x175,
    0x1aa,      0x177,      0x168,      0x1a7,
    0x172,      0x172,      0x1a7,      0x169,
    0x1ab,      0x1b2,      0x17a,      0x16c,
    0x1a8,      0x178,      0x177,      0x171,
    0x1a9,      0x172,      0x1a9,      0x16f,
    0x16f,      0x16f,      0x16f,      0x16f,
    0x16f,      0x165,      0x16e,      0xc20c0170
};

ncp_over(0x020c8224, 0)
static const u32 TS_CHK_TBL[76] = {
    0x4D,       0x64,       0x53,       0x34,
    0x49,       0x5D,       0x53,       0x66,
    0x4D,       0x3C,       0x3C,       0x39,
    0x4D,       0x44,       0x44,       0x3F,
    0x3E,       0x5B,       0xC404005A, 0x39,
    0x3B,       0x4B,       0x3E,       0x50,
    0x3D,       0x3D,       0x5B,       0x4D,
    0x5B,       0xC6000037, 0x36,       0x67,
    0x64,       0x44,       0x4D,       0xC1000032,
    0x31,       0x46,       0x47,       0x60,
    0x4F,       0xC3040064, 0x40,       0x41,
    0x42,       0x64,       0x43,       0x5F,
    0x3C,       0x62,       0x44,       0x39,
    0x53,       0x53,       0x39,       0x45,
    0x3F,       0x5D,       0x65,       0x48,
    0x3A,       0x63,       0x62,       0x52,
    0x3B,       0x53,       0x3B,       0x4B,
    0x4B,       0x4B,       0x4B,       0x4B,
    0x4B,       0x33,       0x4A,       0xC204004D
};

ncp_over(0x020c80f4, 0)
static const u32 TS_UNT_TABLE[76] = {
    0x271,      0xC3000285, 0x277,      0x259,
    0x269,      0x2AD,      0x277,      0x2AF,
    0x271,      0x299,      0x299,      0x297,
    0x272,      0x261,      0x261,      0x29F,
    0x2A1,      0x27D,      0xC400027E, 0x297,
    0x29C,      0x26D,      0x2A1,      0x291,
    0x2A2,      0x2A2,      0x27D,      0x285,
    0x27D,      0xC6030295, 0x293,      0x2B1,
    0x285,      0x261,      0x271,      0xC101025C,
    0x25A,      0x265,      0x267,      0x281,
    0x275,      0xC3000285, 0x2A5,      0x2A7,
    0x2A9,      0x286,      0x2AB,      0x282,
    0x299,      0x288,      0x261,      0x297,
    0x277,      0x277,      0x297,      0x263,
    0x29F,      0x2AD,      0x28D,      0x269,
    0x29A,      0x28A,      0x288,      0x27A,
    0x29C,      0x278,      0x29C,      0x26D,
    0x26D,      0x26D,      0x26D,      0x26D,
    0x26D,      0x25E,      0x26E,      0xC2000271
};

ncp_over(0x020c7fc4, 0)
static const u32 TS_UNT_HD_TABLE[76] = {
    0x274,      0xC301028C, 0x27C,      0x260,
    0x26C,      0x2AE,      0x27C,      0x2B0,
    0x274,      0x29E,      0x29E,      0x298,
    0x273,      0x262,      0x262,      0x2A0,
    0x2A4,      0x280,      0xC401027F, 0x298,
    0x29D,      0x270,      0x2A4,      0x292,
    0x2A3,      0x2A3,      0x280,      0x28C,
    0x280,      0xC6040296, 0x294,      0x2B2,
    0x28C,      0x262,      0x274,      0xC102025D,
    0x25B,      0x266,      0x268,      0x284,
    0x276,      0xC301028C, 0x2A6,      0x2A8,
    0x2AA,      0x287,      0x2AC,      0x283,
    0x29E,      0x289,      0x262,      0x298,
    0x27C,      0x27C,      0x298,      0x264,
    0x2A0,      0x2AE,      0x28E,      0x26B,
    0x29B,      0x28B,      0x289,      0x27B,
    0x29D,      0x279,      0x29D,      0x270,
    0x270,      0x270,      0x270,      0x270,
    0x270,      0x25F,      0x26F,      0xC2010274
};


ncp_over(0x020c9dd4, 0)
static const u32 TS_PNL_TBL[76] = {
    0x238,      0xc30d0240, 0x23a,      0x22c,
    0x234,      0x254,      0x23a,      0x255,
    0x238,      0x24a,      0x24a,      0x249,
    0x239,      0x230,      0x230,      0x24d,
    0x24e,      0x23c,      0xc40d023d, 0x249,
    0x24c,      0x236,      0x24e,      0x246,
    0x24f,      0x24f,      0x23c,      0x238,
    0x23c,      0xc6050248, 0x247,      0x256,
    0x240,      0x230,      0x238,      0xc10a022e,
    0x22d,      0x232,      0x233,      0x23e,
    0x245,      0xc30d0240, 0x250,      0x251,
    0x252,      0x240,      0x253,      0x23f,
    0x24a,      0x241,      0x230,      0x249,
    0x23a,      0x23a,      0x249,      0x231,
    0x24d,      0x254,      0x243,      0x235,
    0x24b,      0x242,      0x241,      0x23b,
    0x24c,      0x23a,      0x24c,      0x236,
    0x236,      0x236,      0x236,      0x236,
    0x236,      0x22f,      0x237,      0xc20d0238
};

done

so nsmbe does read from overlay 0

so when you change a file id you just need to reload nsmbe

so this allows for the dupe tile sets to be changed

this doesnt effect the animated tile/3d tile loading though

so any tilesets that do load animated tiles and or 3d tiles will still load them

@wraith gust did it

[fossil token]

these are all the defult ids btw

and I couldnt be fucked cleaning up all the overflows

[vernal thicket]

baller

[tepid temple]

🤨

What do you mean by that

[fossil token]

eg 0xc20d0238

it should be 0x238

[ocean pivot]

oh yeah, that would've been nice for the bigger hacks definitly

[stoic lava]

WHA-

[tepid temple]

No I think it's just an extended file id

[stoic lava]

Wait file ids can be in hex too?

In c++ i mean

[wraith gust]

W

You managed to do what everyone always wanted to have in their hacks

-# Unfortuntately, I don't understand this table at all

[stoic lava]

U need to change the ids

[analog oracle]

from what I can tell
each file id is in hex, and then there’s multiple tables for each file a tileset used (NCG, NCL, CHL, UNT, UNT_HD, PNL)
if you want to change a slot’s files, just count it’s index in the list (so for example the first item in the array would be slot 0) and then change it

might actually update this to add comments and etc

[stoic lava]

Hi frosty, hru?

[wraith gust]

No shit Sherlock

[analog oracle]

hii
decent

[wraith gust]

That part I know, what I don't understand is which numbers exactly do I have to type? How do I know which hex number corresponds to the ID's of the new files I added?

[analog oracle]

actually I think u can still type the non hexed id and it should still work

just remember about the whole 131 offset thing

but if it needs to be hex still u could just use a calculator or smt

Windows calculator has the programmer kind so u could in decimal type the normal file id and see what it shows in hex

[wraith gust]

I see

I'm gonna give this a try later, but I'm definitely sure many people will find this very useful

[stoic lava]

Glad to know :>

[tepid temple]

you don't need to write them in hex

[wraith gust]

Awesome then

[fossil token]

manged to make this tile set usable by giving it it's own pnl file

I have it marked as that since it shares the pnl with another tile set

[vernal thicket]

i thought it shared an object definition file with another tileset

[fossil token]

Isn’t pnl the object definitions?

[vernal thicket]

pnl is the tilemap iirc

[analog oracle]

pretty sure unt is the object defs

tho why is there a normal and an hd version?

[fossil token]

Yeah it is

That’s the one I needed to change

I should also check object definition

[vernal thicket]

the latter contains a width/height value for each tile object as well as their offsets in the former file

the former has everything else important in it

[fossil token]

Is this documented anywhere btw?

[vernal thicket]

i have a txt file with some notes

theres also roadrunners nsmbpy thing

and the wii formats are also i thiiink like basically the same n those are documented on jorizon wiki

horizon

[fossil token]

if its made by roadrunner im not using it, i have lost my respect for him

[vernal thicket]

fair enough

[fossil token]

So, I have been wanting to make a sky high sundae themed level for a while but I honestly have no idea how I should make it look lol

[fathom kraken]

The one form mk8 looks more nsmb-y

[fossil token]

I think the "cake" look will be easier to pull off the graphics for

[ocean pivot]

World one better ;p

[fossil token]

I agree

its just reference images though

[fathom kraken]

I think mk8 one is better cause the one in mkworld is too busy, but it's also cool

[fossil token]

its not busy

[stoic lava]

Heya

[fossil token]

go to bed jpg

[stoic lava]

😭

[fossil token]

/lh

[stoic lava]

I watched wome mkw gameplays yesterday

Its a pretty neat game

[stoic lava]

Mkw one is so peaked ngl

[fossil token]

Its really fun

Knockout tour online is really enjoyable

mario kart battle royal

[stoic lava]

Imo they should have added it way before in mario kart games, i never played it and loved it

[fossil token]

I just wish they had 200cc

[fathom kraken]

Or mirror mode

Mirror mode my beloved

[stoic lava]

I never really played 200cc so idk how it feels

[stoic lava]

It would be kinda impossible in the style of mkw courses

[fathom kraken]

Flip the whole map

A new experience

[fossil token]

it is

[fathom kraken]

It is?

[stoic lava]

There is mirror mode?

[fathom kraken]

Mkw new goty

[fossil token]

Well, I got my first exam tmr

wish me luck

oh yeah, I started making a few modifications to the farewell bowser jr dimension tile set, I started adding some of the coral from the underwater tile set to it

[vernal thicket]

good luck

[lapis lark]

good luck

[fossil token]

this is what I meant with the coral, still needs some work but its pretty decent, im not gonna use it for the whole level though

probably just an area based on water gimmicks that isnt underwater

[stoic lava]

Dont look bad ngl

Looks interesting

I love the ideas u have for this hack its so creative

[fossil token]

its litrally straight from celeste farewell lol

[stoic lava]

Still its interesting

[civic cloud]

Good luck on the exam

[stoic lava]

Yea

[fossil token]

what do yall think about this colourfull block aesthetic btw?

[stoic lava]

Cool

Looks neat!

[wide furnace]

pretty cool!

-# definitely not sad because i had a very similar idea 😭

[fossil token]

its just a level about moving tight ropes

its not really anything unique

[wide furnace]

no i meant the colorful blocks in the sky

[analog oracle]

tbf thats in new u
i have a rainbow blocks tileset like this one too lmao
(i didnt mean to reply 😭)

nice

[tall umbra]

Just me or did it immediately remind of me nsmb2 world 5-1

[blazing jungle]

Bo, bo... bo bo-, bo bon.............

[ocean pivot]

Love it

I would only improve the hue but I believe that's you change it yourself and can't really tell if it's right due to your colorblindness

😔

[iron igloo]

kinda crazy that nintendo didn’t make linear movement options for actors like this

I guess that they had lifts for that so not really necessary

oh yeah I just realised why this wasn’t a thing

the player falling state will break cos the rope’s position is always changing so mario will just balance and attempt to fall but just not

will look weird but probably won’t affect gameplay (maybe?)

[fossil token]

thats a good point

I need to test that

vertical ones work fine but horizontal ones not so much

Ill need to change the player's position with the actor I guess

[thick coral]

Thats amazing

[iron igloo]

oh that isn’t bad at all

[fossil token]

Did I ever say that I made fly guys their own actor a few months back?

[lapis lark]

you might have

[karmic crest]

Why that remind me of the mushroom world in nsmb 2

[fossil token]

another lil sneak peak

[analog oracle]

random idea: be able to individually move both end points of the tightropes

[fossil token]

Hell nah, have you seen the right ropes code?

[iron igloo]

haha the tightrope code is horrific

the drawing in itself is just literal matrices to draw one 8px? texture

of course its how it should be done as the texture stretches and it allows for any length of tightrope but the execution by nintendo is just bad

[verbal topaz]

Where/how can I look at the tightrope code?

(Please answer with a ping)

[fossil token]

I think im finally going to start diving into the wonders of a custom title screen soon

[fossil token]

keeping note of this as it may be useful for if I do custom wm's

[fossil token]

was bored and had a lil bit of free time so I made this

[stoic lava]

Ghidra

[verbal topaz]

Is there a public Ghidra file what RE’ed to tight rope code?

[arctic cave]

Just got back from camp and decided to test the demo but there seems to be a bug in the tower level, I haven’t played this hack for a while and I probably missed a lot of things but I’m stuck in the first part of the level. Did I miss something?

[stoic lava]

Oh its because the level is not finished it seens

[fossil token]

This demo is outdated

An actual demo is comming out in around a month

That’s the start room of Larry’s tower B side btw

Level isn’t finished

[ocean pivot]

oh lol, then i need to finish up the tilesets for you real quick

[fossil token]

repurposing the unused world select screen to make a new title screen

Gonna do more of this later today since I got an exam now

[lapis lark]

good luck

[fossil token]

Custom scene testing with model rendering

well, its not an actaul custom scene

I more so just hijacking the functions of the "world" scene and putting my own shit in

[fossil token]

perfect

alright, nsbtx rendering is also pretty simple it seams

Do you happen to still have this model?

I want to optimize it and use it for my title screen since im doing it all as 3d stuff

[analog oracle]

sure, ill send you it when I can

[fossil token]

thanks

[fossil token]

https://youtu.be/T1FM8Fa8-FE?si=KgVSxESltfU0gdXh

[wraith gust]

Seems very solid considering it's remade from memory

I also like the retro style

[fossil token]

Im messing around and an nsbtx of this with 32 colours takes 131kb of the 512kb I am using for the graphics

damn

should be fine though

if frosty sends the model though that would give me a lot more to work with

the game didnt even wanna try and draw that lol

ill try a 256x128

yeah that worked

yay

to few colours though

16 isnt enough

this is at native res btw

its kinda a pain dealing with nsbtx scaling and crap

hence why I want the logo to be a model

[fossil token]

got so close to a good render nsbtx render this time

desume

melon

melon looks really good at double res though

Gonna try to make it larger or see if there is diffrent rendering options for nsbtx's in the sdk

it would be so much easier if I used the oam engine for this or the upstream engine but having stuff being higher res on emulator is cool

I think this is pretty solid

sorry for spawing so much rn. This is the type of thing thats really hard to get right

[wide furnace]

seems like it's slightly rotated forwards

instead of being parallel to the camera

[fossil token]

It’s probably how the camera is set up in this scene

Since I didn’t overwrite it

I overwrote the world ring

[wide furnace]

probably

[analog oracle]

right i forgot to send you the model sorry 😭

[fossil token]

Oh yeah, smth fun about Nwav I just found out yesterday is that it can be initiated anywhere and can play any file id

I don’t know how I didn’t notice that earlier

[stoic lava]

Yea its cool

I had one song that i used this, but now i dont use this song anymore since kourtiss made a song for the level

[fossil token]

by that I mean this

last wav is 131

on file 2335

[stoic lava]

Interesting

[fathom kraken]

"Zg_ImSickOfAddingFiles" 😭

[analog oracle]

how do yall even add so many files i still have a single folder called ''zCustomActors'' with like just 52 files or smt 📉

[wide furnace]

i have files straight from newerds from the time i believed i could just import the code hacks from newerds (like bosses)

slowly replacing them tho, because they're useless

i also have a folder of level intros, and a folder of nwavs

[wide furnace]

calling them "file_[id]" is probably not a good way of naming the files tho, you won't have any idea of what they are unless you remember. something like "[id]_[name]" would probably be better

[fossil token]

All my extra files are just the id

And I remember what they all are and I usauly never need to access them again

Also, it’s not worth the time to rename them all,especially when I generate all the blank files with a python script

[wraith gust]

Everyone adding a shitton of files to their ROMs while I always try to find unused files to replace

[stoic lava]

I do both adding and this

[ocean pivot]

Do you want to see JPG's folder names?

[warped briar]

Successor to Pa0_OhFuckIhopeThisWorks

[fossil token]

eww, skawo reference

[stoic lava]

LMAO

"Idk the name of this shit"

(Its a spike)

[north garnet]

SMBX

[fossil token]

found the problem with the camera in the custom scene, since im still using the world render camera I gotta change this

think this is about as good as I can get it

[fossil token]

Now, should I also use the 3d engine for the bottom screen?

I can do that and the frame rate would be 30fps on both screens

[vernal thicket]

dpends on whacha wanna do with it i reckon

[amber zephyr]

wow

illy

i found some midi's idk if you already have or need em

but i'll still share em

[fossil token]

It flashes green when though for some reason

Xbox games bar didn’t record the flashes

[ocean pivot]

nice

[fossil token]

yeah, this problem is defiantly some vram management thing, I changed smth and now that black band in the middle of the bottom screen is also flashing lol

[fossil token]

yup, you can see the greens in the palettes

I forgot that I could check with this

[fossil token]

got it to flash black, I guess thats an improvment

now I just need to find why the hell this colour keeps being loaded and tiles

[fossil token]

Motivation has kinda died since I cant get the duel 3d working

my last idea is to making this a modification of the defult title screen instead of the world scene but thats gonna be a lot of effort

[vernal thicket]

outta curiosity whadja plan on doing with the dual 3d

[fossil token]

Title screen, cutscenes, between world cutscenes and ending cutscenes

As well as menus

[vernal thicket]

gotcha

[fossil token]

Main reason is for people who play on emulator

So it can be upscaled

[fossil token]

Actually

I think I might just accept my losses and make the bottom screen oam

[north garnet]

Dual 3D? But I thought the DS could only support 3D for one screen at once! On the other hand, the plumbob on the bottom screen in The Sims 2 (DS) looks sussily 3D...

[stoic lava]

If thered 3d on both screens the game will run at 30 fps

[north garnet]

Ahhh, like how the framerate of the 3DS halves if stereoscopic 3D is toggled on.

[north garnet]

Also, I'm curious how this dual 3D handles the 2048 tri limit. Will the limit be 2048 per screen or for both screens combined. I imagine the latter.

[analog oracle]

pretty sure its 2048 per screen

[north garnet]

One would think the vertex RAM can't be doubled, though... Hm... maybe this could be abused to make the DS render ~4000 tris on one screen. Or am I an idiot?

[analog oracle]

#nsmb-chat message actually this could be an answer

[stoic lava]

2048 per screen iirc

[stoic lava]

The vram is shared on both screen iirc, but the tris count is video ram too? Or its just CPU? Cuz if its CPU im pretty sure it can be half for 1 screen and half for another

[vernal thicket]

could yoi not do more at the expense of framerate

ie 4096 per screen at 15 fps

[stoic lava]

Imagine a code hack for nsmb where 4096 tris and 30fps game?

[vernal thicket]

i feel like nsmb wouldnt benefit too much from that

being largely 2d n all

[north garnet]

But 64DS, though...

[fossil token]

Why do I desire to make a blizzard blitzer boss fight…

Anyways

I have been thinking of a way to save actor profiles

I think I need to make a custom boss controller actor that spawns the custom boss and loads its recourses

It would save me a lot of actor slots

[rapid bramble]

Yes it can

e.g. the galaxy ds homebrew uses that

[fossil token]

Headless mario "having fun" with the new++ logo. Cursed stuff from half finished code is great

[stoic lava]

LMAO WHY LUIGI IS HERE 😭

[fossil token]

is mario

remember, I made mario and luigi have eachothers textures then it gets fixed in game for fun

[stoic lava]

Ohhhh

[stoic lava]

Oh i didn't read the text tho im dumb

[fossil token]

Random funny idea I had, code a minecart like newer had but make it actually good. Probably not gonna do it but it would be funny

[fossil token]

making a slightly modiffied version of the jingle tile set for a w1 level

[fathom kraken]

Ohh BG tiles

[wraith gust]

Did you get motivated to do this because you saw Jouner recreating the forest tileset in Blender?

[fossil token]

nope, because I am replaying paper mario sticker star and I played the minecrat level and half the jungle world today

its also why I have that forrest castle level btw, its a reffence to a sticker star level kind of

and im doign blue bg rocks because I like this look

[wraith gust]

If you're modifying the forest tileset, perhaps you could also add the semisolids from the tileset from MeroMero's hack, or take inspiration from them

[wide furnace]

i was gonna suggest adding some tree or log tiles, it would fit really well

[ocean pivot]

I think I have some references from other games or hacks, I could send you few of them lol

[fossil token]

its kinda nice having a small tile set ngl

im use to having massive ones

[wide furnace]

relatable 😭

tho i kinda wished you had included some tree elements or log platforms to fit the forest theme better. it's up to you tho

[stoic lava]

Its nice to see organized map16 😭
Mine are always unorganized 😭

[fossil token]

I have log platfroms in nearly all of my tile sets lol

I just couldn't be bothered with this one

[stoic lava]

Fake it have logs in the ground

[wide furnace]

fair lol

kinda wish it had at least some tree-like platforms

[fossil token]

I do want to add one

just dont feel like reusing the same elements anymore

[wide furnace]

okay then

so i'm guessing you'll add one eventually?

[fossil token]

I kind of want to do a tree stomp

and make it an actor so it can be 3d and look cool

[wide furnace]

yeah that could be pretty cool

[fossil token]

*tree stump

actually, I got an idea

gonna try it and see if it works

here we go

might be able to make smth for the tile set with this

[stoic lava]

Whats that

Unused graphic or?

[fossil token]

the jungle top background

what else do you think it would be?

[stoic lava]

Im feeling dumb now 😭

[fossil token]

yeah, the log isnt my best work

I need to change the hue to make it not look like a bg tile

also the shape is kinda ass

better

[wraith gust]

Wouldn't it be better to make the background rocks brown instead of blue?

[stoic lava]

Wait yea true

[fossil token]

I want the contrast tbh

[idle breach]

Good work

[fossil token]

Last day of school and then I have three weeks off for winter break

Gonna try and get a few bosses done and redo the jyotyu if my adhd allows me too

[stoic lava]

Cool!

[rapid bramble]

winter?

[wide furnace]

australia

[rapid bramble]

📉

[stoic lava]

Yea in the south hemisphere its winter

[rapid bramble]

forgot bout that

[fossil token]

mid as hell log tiles

[fathom kraken]

You should make the inside of the log more dark

[fossil token]

was thinking it could be cool to add an "onstomped" state to pokeys so I can add these green ones

then Ill just need to pair it with some remodel code

[fossil token]

started redrawing the log platforms

[fathom kraken]

Cool

[ocean pivot]

Alr, now I know what to improve for the log

btw make the tree walls one tile longer, they are supposed to end at the edge

you can see there even one dark pixel

[fossil token]

this is why I didnt

what I need to do is offset it by half a tile

my other option is to try and hide it with bg rocks like this

[ocean pivot]

oh lol

alr you're right, i just forgot to draw that part

it's supposed to be like this rather this

my bad

I gotta think of it more if i want it to look like this or it be 8 pixels further

[vernal thicket]

i think you should nudge it back at leas 3 px so it doesnt exceeed the wall edge

[ocean pivot]

Alr, you're right lol, i just woke up so i didn't know what i wanted exactly before 😭

[wraith gust]

Looks interesting so far

My only criticism would be that I don't think the 1-Up at the end is very necessary, I feel 1-Ups shouldn't be too easy to obtain unless the level is very difficult

[fossil token]

I thought I placed a mushroom lol

And I don’t notice until I play tested and recorded

[fossil token]

I have the urge to make a mr blizzard boss for w5 airship

I can probably pull it off with a few simple models and do the animations with code

[wide furnace]

i had to look up their names to know they're the sm64 snowmen

yeah that could be pretty cool as a boss

[fathom kraken]

Isn't Mr blizzard the one from paper Mario?

[wide furnace]

it's also in paper mario yes

[fathom kraken]

Ye, it's a boss in sticker star

But blizzard is the normal one and Mr blizzard is the boss

[wide furnace]

it's just that i mainly played the mainline games so that's the ones that come to my mind

[fathom kraken]

Ahh

[fossil token]

Im trying to work on 1-4 but tis really hard

since its a world 1 level I feel like I cant really do much

[fathom kraken]

What's the gimmick?

[wide furnace]

in terms of difficulty?

[fossil token]

without it feeling like "this has been done before"

[wide furnace]

oh okay

[fossil token]

hanging blocks, logs as a support and shy guys

[fathom kraken]

Oh cool

[wide furnace]

well so far it seems pretty creative

[fossil token]

cant use the moving floating logs since they are for bomb koopa bridge (I really need to make an actor for them instead of them being a shity koopa hook) and for a part of w9

[wide furnace]

oh you mean done before in the hack?

[fathom kraken]

Wasn't W9 canceled?

[wide furnace]

i think it's gonna be some sort of level hub or something, or just levels without a worldmap

[fossil token]

its more so gonna be a level select screen on the final level

[wide furnace]

oh okay. pretty cool

[fathom kraken]

Those levels are gonna have b sides or nah?

[wide furnace]

do you wanna die (in the game) or??? /j these levels are most likely difficult enough. but i guess maybe they could? idk. it's Illy's decision

[fossil token]

nice and fair star coin

it would be to easy if the block wasnt there as you could juse use the para shell to get it

[fossil token]

spaming random shit

[wide furnace]

yeah it does feel kinda spammy but pretty cool too

[fossil token]

there is thought behinde it

dw lol

like that two tile gap is for a pipe

[wide furnace]

oh okay

tho it's mostly the way it looks that feels spammy. like if you look at it in a spacial point of view, it's a bunch of logs stacked on top of each other in different orientations in the middle of a poisonous lake lol

[ocean pivot]

atleast you show me what it's possible with the current tileset I have made, nice

btw i could make modified version of rolling log so it could be more 3D rather just have a texture

[fossil token]

this should give u a better visaul

[fossil token]

can you make a half size one

[wide furnace]

oh pretty cool! that's a lot of pink

also it seems like they need some corner tiles

[ocean pivot]

yes

because at first this tileset wasn't mean't do do those things

[wide furnace]

okay then. i'm guessing it shouldn't be too difficult to add them tho

(for example you can just copy-paste a bit of wall and place it behind an edge tile directly in paint.net)

[fossil token]

I need to make some

[ocean pivot]

I'm just going to model them in blender so i could keep the same style still

tho i need to fix my lighting...

[wide furnace]

oh well okay then

[stoic lava]

I really like this type of level for some reason, it's random? A little bit, but its really fun to play

[ocean pivot]

Should i make 1x2 slopes?

What do you think illy?

[wide furnace]

the pink of the "inner" tiles is slightly different from the pink of the other tiles

[ocean pivot]

it's not a problem since everything is off compared to original, i'm just gonna use the same palette as the tiles i have already edited

but nice eye

[fossil token]

sure

if you wanna try ut, try throwing the slope in here

[stoic lava]

U should do it actually

[fossil token]

there are a lot of unused dupe tiles from the original tile set im not using that you could replace

[stoic lava]

Why theres dupe tiles on nsmb tilesets btw?

[ocean pivot]

to use whole tileset lmao

[stoic lava]

Its like very commmon in almost every tileset, ik they didn't cared much about space but why its everything duplicated smhsmhsmh

[stoic lava]

Fair point here

[ocean pivot]

my first tileset to have ever ceilling slopes btw

[wide furnace]

probably because they were different at some point. or maybe nintendo used the same structure for multiple tilesets, some of which had variations but some others didn't

you can see that a lot of tilesets have the same structure: walls, ground, inner ground, etc. at the same locations

[fossil token]

like this here is made with unused tiles

oh yeah, @ocean pivot if you want you can make a tree canopy render, kind of like the one on the top here, which I could add to the 3d deco actor and use on top of some of the logs to make actual trees

[wide furnace]

oh nice

[stoic lava]

Ooo

[ocean pivot]

Those leaves on top?

I'm having big issues for them to make sadly

Im not that good yet to make this mesh lmao

[fossil token]

That’s alright

[fossil token]

doing my own thing

these will probs do the job

I should be able to cram those in as nsbtx's for this level

[wide furnace]

i was gonna suggest using a junglekusa retexture for this, but the thing you wanna do has edges and doesn't just loop so it won't work

[fossil token]

I already thought of that :p

if the level was only trees I could

• I also want to be able to use these as platforms

[wide furnace]

oh ok then

because i did that for 4-1 of TRQ

[stoic lava]

Remember that junglekusa will always repeat alongside the level

Independent of the custom model

I use trimmed ones in my mod

[wide furnace]

i permanently borrowed the fg clouds from newerds and halved the textures with nitropaint