New++ Super Mario Bros

[fossil token]

so, is anyone here good at ui design?

my last idea is to make the items sitting on a brick block

yeah, some sort of thing for the powerups to sit on is probably best

then ill fix the progress bar and star coin pos

I think this is my best option

I think this is gonna work

the one thing im scared about is the ghost house bottom screen

yeah...

[fossil token]

Very "balanced"

[olive owl]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-mega-mushroom-mushroom-nsmb-new-super-mario-bros-gif-26779016

[onyx lantern]

Bro I leave this server for an entire day this game is getting too overpowered 😭

[fossil token]

you can actauly never have more then one unless you do the thing that allows you to get a mega shroom in your inventory that can be done in 1-1 of the base game

the toad houses always place the powerup in slot 1

[fossil token]

I need to center that hammer flower around the stem on the podium

It’s meant to be lopsided due to the head weighing more btw

[fossil token]

last thing I need to do is make use of this so the powerups get saved

[fossil token]

I can now say this is fully functional

I can now close the game and reponen it and the powerups will be saved if I made a save

this was really difficult for me for some reason lol

[lapis lark]

nice!

btw what song is that?

[fossil token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OG1BC747kg

[fossil token]

and after an hour and 15 min fixed one bug

I thought it was all my other code but it turned out to be the tiny bit of asm that I thought wouldnt be a problem

in the vid you can see that when the fire flower bubble is collected the super ball state isnt changed into a fire state and the super ball is also put into reserve

I forgot to make the fire flower hirachy take into acount the new powerup states

aka, it took me 75 min to notice that I need to add this

[lapis lark]

ty

[wide furnace]

isn't there a code hack from the NSMB E3 2005 remake for this?

well either way you made it work so whatever

[fossil token]

yeah, a tiny bit of the code is based on that

dont forget the ui is completely different and thats most of the code

the support for the additonal powerups is actauly in the base game

its just unused

[wide furnace]

oh ok

[wide furnace]

oh interesting, didn't know that

[ocean pivot]

woah, everyone is changing bottom screen recently so much

nice

[fossil token]

this has been on my todo list for ages tbh

I only now have the skills to pull it off though

[stoic lava]

Nowaayyyyy missingno. item confirmed

[wraith gust]

Awesome

However, I would honestly suggest to make the star coin graphics straight instead of diagonal, I feel it could look better that way

[fossil token]

I want to do that at some point

I wasnt really changing graphics though when I was making that

Im also thinking of putting some other things on the bottom screen

maybe the coin counter im thinking

[wraith gust]

I was gonna say score counter, but I forgor you got rid of the score in your hack

[fossil token]

finished a level and recorded it, gonna upload it soon

gotta love some 1.30 am gameplay where I cant even jump properly in a mario game

https://youtu.be/HVe3su4Be7w

this is a very mid level

[stoic lava]

Nope, its not mid, looks fun

[fossil token]

Of course lmao

I was talking to rimea when I made this tile set in his server and everyone was going on about how cloud tile sets look like snow tile sets

[wraith gust]

I don't think it's a mid level, it's more like a "traditional" level

I just have two questions

• Why the pipe cannons aren't making any sound effects?
• Why is the music restarting when you switch between areas?

And I feel you should totally avoid adding warps in the middle of the view, it's more prefferable adding them two tiles below the view

[wraith gust]

Rimea

[pseudo verge]

Who is rimea

[fossil token]

for some reason it was killing the player if they were any lower

[fossil token]

the yoshis dont have a pipe cannon sound effect set up
and I have no clue what is going on with the music

[wide furnace]

1. i'm guessing because of yoshi?
2. she probably didn't use the nitro wav loop fix

[stoic lava]

^

[wraith gust]

That song is not a NWAV, it's an SSEQ

[wide furnace]

oh mb

[wraith gust]

Weird, I remember running into a similar issue a long ago, and the weirdest thing is that it was only happening with one specific warp

[wide furnace]

no idea then

[fossil token]

Its probably some random level header setting tbh

[analog oracle]

they’d probably think this cause of the top lmao

if you added bumps it would instantly become cloud

[wraith gust]

It's funny how everyone thinks it's a snow tileset except for Illy 😭

[wide furnace]

and me i guess

[stoic lava]

I mean, its pretty snowy and fluffy so its normal

I also made tilesets that are suposed go be a thing but was other

But tbf that tileset is excelent for cloud imo

[rich palm]

I really like the mushrooms

[rich palm]

Ngl I can see that

It always struck me as such, but it looked too good for me to care

[analog oracle]

and me!!

[fossil token]

random question, do yall think I could fit the "touch" graphic above the powerups?

I plan on making the starcoins straight and maybe shrinking them

[analog oracle]

i believe so

while it may not look as pretty you could probably make mini star coins and fit them on the gap between the level number and the lives count

[stoic lava]

Not really ig

[wide furnace]

-# unlike the rainbow coins of TRQ /j

[wide furnace]

maybe you could place it above but make it smaller somehow?

also (tho i'm guessing you planned this already) i'd suggest centering the star coins

[fossil token]

if I have space I will, I need to add an "A side/B side" indicator and im also thinking of putting the coin count and timer down there

[wide furnace]

oh, okay then

[fossil token]

I just started work on a b side level and for some reason turning on challenge mode is crashing the game

it was caused by some old world nine code

[fathom kraken]

How many levels will new++ have without counting the b-sides?

[fossil token]

the normal amount

B sides are full levels though so I dont know why you wouldnt count them

w9 is scraped due to save data problems

[warped briar]

How many Bs

[fossil token]

Every level has one

its 160 levels including them

[warped briar]

Are the B levels like remixed normal levels or are they completely different

[fossil token]

they usually have the same gimmick but are completely diffrent

[warped briar]

So kinda like NSLU?

[fossil token]

I guess you could say that

its more like how celeste does its B sides

[warped briar]

Haven't played that game

[fathom kraken]

I love celeste classic

I didn't finish it tho

[warped briar]

Classic?

[fathom kraken]

Yeah, the one for the pico 8

[fossil token]

this is gonna be a fun B side

[fossil token]

Im in little timmy mode

I was gonna have shell jumps in this level but it didnt feel right since the whole level takes place on mushrooms

[stoic lava]

Nah its better than my avarage level desing, u know doing levels very well smh

[fossil token]

its actauly thought out lol

[wide furnace]

w1-5??

[fossil token]

its a B side

[wide furnace]

yeah it's just that the theming felt very different to me

[fossil token]

it starts normal lol

[stoic lava]

Illy u could came back with the torpedo level at w3 castle, idk if you plan it but it can be a pretty good idea for ur mod

[fossil token]

I dont do underwater levels lol

the theme of the level is switching between the normal and parallel sides of the castle

[stoic lava]

Oh oki

I got pretty creative with torpedos those days smh lol, watched a lot of nsmbu and smw hacks videos

[wide furnace]

fair enough i guess

[fossil token]

its ment to be like these rooms in suhshine btw

[analog oracle]

the trauma…

[olive owl]

Neat

I have a suggestion for the hammer flower: you shouldn't be able to slide in the shell like the blue shell.
This is more of a creative choice, so there's no right or wrong, but I think not allowing the spinning in the hammer suit makes the regular blue shell more unique.

In the case of slopes, you would spin with the momentum of the slope, but holding the run button wouldn't keep you in the spinning state

[stoic lava]

^

[fossil token]

There is no normal blue shell though, thats the thing

I dont know how I would pull smth like that off tbh

because its reusing the exact same code as the normal shell state

thats why it acts the same

[olive owl]

Hmm

I might try and look at it

The no auto enter shell code seems like the best place to start

[fossil token]

ncp_jump(0x02100c64,10)
NTR_NAKED static void shellCrap() {asm(R"(
    cmp         r0,#0x5
    beq         0x02100c64+8
    cmp         r0,#0xa 
    beq         0x02100c64+8
    bne         0x02100c64+4
)");}

ncp_jump(0x021122cc,10)
NTR_NAKED static void shellCrap2() {asm(R"(
    cmp         r0,#0x5
    beq         0x021122cc+8
    cmp         r0,#0xa 
    beq         0x021122cc+8
    bne         0x021122cc+4
)");}

ncp_jump(0x02115cb0,10)
NTR_NAKED static void shellCrap3() {asm(R"(
    cmp         r0,#0x5
    beq         0x02115cb0+8
    cmp         r0,#0xa 
    beq         0x02115cb0+8
    bne         0x02115cb0+4
)");}

those are the shell abilities that I have active in the hammer state, aka powerup state 0xa

[stoic lava]

Shellcrap

[stoic lava]

Looks fun!
-# poor ball flower, got lost in the clouds 😭

[fossil token]

I was testing smth, I need to lock the inventory when in a pipe cannon

[stoic lava]

Gotcha

Ngl you pulled out a pretty cool thing for ur hack, it will help on bsides

[fossil token]

it only took me like eight hours

it was actauly kinda simple, and I had tiagos code from the e3 remake as a reffrece

I practly rewrote all of it though besides a few functions

[stoic lava]

Gotcha

Ngl u, will smith, the adms and fuzzy are the best code hacksnin the server

Yall Cook so hard, if i tried i would burn my house down

[analog oracle]

same 😭🙏

[onyx lantern]

-# live footage of illy unintentionally stealing from my hack (the music lol)

[fossil token]

I have had this song in my hack for like nine months lol

Longer

It’s literally part of the base game

[onyx lantern]

I had to grab mine from sm64 ds

But yea fair

[fossil token]

New++ has been cancelled

Instead I’ll be making a mod that replaces every enemy with Larry koopa

[bronze shell]

damn it, I hate larry, why not roy?

[bronze shell]

oh, nevermind then

larry it is

[amber zephyr]

Exactly

[fossil token]

because two roys crash the game

[pseudo verge]

This rabbit has been claimed!

Better luck next time!

[fossil token]

I can atleast have a few larry's on screen ar once

[fossil token]

what a sexy bloke

I fixed the weight paint on him

I left his mario 64 ds lighting though

[pseudo verge]

This coin has been claimed!

Better luck next time!

[fossil token]

I thing I need to disable shell sliding as wario

[pseudo verge]

This coin has been claimed!

Better luck next time!

This star has been claimed!

Better luck next time!

[fossil token]

can this bot fuck off

its being more annoying than me

[stoic lava]

Ur not even annoying 😭

[blazing jungle]

ooh.... how does it look like in-game???

i'm very curious 👀 👀

[blazing jungle]

I can't say the same with you

[fossil token]

That is in game

[blazing jungle]

how does it look outside the game

[blazing jungle]

I mean Wario's anims

like walking and jumping

[bronze shell]

no more fire power

was too hard to use

[fossil token]

ill show it later today

[fossil token]

Gonna start recording for the trailer

this is gonna be so weird, I just wrote some code to disable the music so I can still have sound effects

its gonna be so weird to play through levels like this though lol

[fossil token]

I have recorded footage from w1 to w4 now

[stoic lava]

Oh btw, u made a beach tileset already or nah? Cant recal rn

[fossil token]

its still the nsmbu one

there is no custom graphics for you to steel yet

[stoic lava]

LMAO 😭

When i make my beach tileset for ☆-1 ill make just a fancy nsmbds beach tileset

I was actually thinking in scrapping the beach, use another theme for having free tilesets and bgs slots

[rich palm]

I'm curious

What would his moveset be?

[cloud pilot]

He is canonically to fat to shell slide

[fossil token]

Got all the footage for the trailer so now im making the assets I need for it

[fossil token]

With Bowser defeated after Bowser Jr's last fight. He and the Koopalings refuse to accept defeat. Fueled by vengeance, they rally armies, launching airship assaults across the Mushroom Kingdom. With one goal: overthrow the Mario bros, reclaim their father's throne, and establish a new Koopa empire.

what do yall think of that?

[fathom kraken]

Sounds fire!

[blazing jungle]

Animated?

[lapis lark]

overthrow?
did mario finally tie the knot with peach? 💍

[lapis lark]

🔥✍️

[fossil token]

this is what I have made so far btw

[fossil token]

Did I miss anyone whos helped with this hack here?

[wide furnace]

suggestion: make the font size larger, and make the text scroll upwards kinda like credits

[wide furnace]

you wrote "possiable" instead of "possible"

[fossil token]

I always see people write possiable

probably just smth where I live

here is my creation in clipchamp because I can not be fucked using one of the adobe tools and I dont want to reinstall them because they are ram hogs

enjoy the two min of black screen

I need to remake the new++ logo in higher res

[wide furnace]

i meant scrolling slowly while the reader reads

if you can't do that though it's okay

[fossil token]

I had done that before you made the suggestion

[wide furnace]

oh ok

[lapis lark]

the black screen made me think my discord broke

[rich palm]

I really like this

The DS frame makes it feel like it was made for the console

[fathom kraken]

It is

[ocean pivot]

I think I'm the only one that is not a fan of this nsmb font generally

especially in this color scheme

also, you are making this tileset the same way I would've do it

wtf tileset

trailer

lol

when was nsmbaba still a mystery j was thinking on how I would've done the trailer for fun and I had in my mind alot of things and small details for fun

[cloud pilot]

Where is my name i gave emotional support /j

[fossil token]

Havent done anything nsmb related due to irl stuff for the past two days

gonna try and fix the waluigi body model and make the head though

[lapis lark]

how would waluigi work in a 2d platformer?
would he be like weird mario from mario maker one?

https://tenor.com/view/weird-mario-super-mario-mario-slender-mario-gif-7874205

[fossil token]

kind of

this is what hes currently like

Im remaking the body model rn though because it has problems

[amber zephyr]

wow this looks amazing

[fossil token]

its gonna be luigi physics pushed to the extream

[fossil token]

models showing up invisable in game

I hate when crap like this happens

[fossil token]

I hate this shit so much

ripping 64 ds models

easy

making ur own

hard as fuck

[stoic lava]

Welcome to the 3d modeling world 😭

Ngl this hack will be fire

[ocean pivot]

i throught it was goku for a sec 😭

[ocean pivot]

that's why i prefer taking a model for a base and heavily edit it

like jpg's model's

[cloud pilot]

Cant ypu find some models from sm64 ds hacks that have waluigi?

[ocean pivot]

isn't there any waluigi model out there from any ds game?

[stoic lava]

Maybe she could use a mpds model

[ocean pivot]

i could make a waluigi model if i had time 😔

[lapis lark]

it looks like he broke his spine on the pole

parawaluigi

👨‍🦽‍➡️ 🎾

[fossil token]

it is from one

im trying to keep the proportions accurate

I could easily just use the 64ds luigi model and call it a day

but it wouldnt look the best

[iron igloo]

wario time has waluigi

just use that

[fossil token]

I give up with this

[fossil token]

I will

[fossil token]

What would the diffrence between normal waluigi and flying waluigi a be?

[amber zephyr]

Hmm

I'd see it flying superman pose

[fossil token]

the only diffrence between the normal state and the red star state is a slight colour diffrence

I dont know if its to suttle

[amber zephyr]

Oh like that

[fossil token]

actauly the hat will be black too

it should be fine

its white for some reason lol

[lapis lark]

when this hack finally drops im gonna find the nearest launch pipe to achieve a waluigi launcher video game adaptation

[lapis lark]

clown makeup

[fossil token]

also made his glove emblem black

hopefully I got the right colour

it made his glove invis

cant do that

[lapis lark]

waluigi the amputee

[stoic lava]

I love how you can be so creative when making stuff ngl

[fossil token]

I thought it would be funny to make waluigis mustache white in his fire state

flying waluigi

[stoic lava]

It fits

Pretty cool

[fathom kraken]

Ye ol' walu

Sorry for the ping!

[fossil token]

the diffrence between wario and waluigi's jumps rn is so funny

yoshis also have the physics of the bro of their colour

and ndy can choose whatever physics he wants

these physics are still not final btw

and its all in asm

ncp_call(0x0215EAD4, 0x36)                              
asm_func void physics1() {asm(R"(
    STMFD    SP!, {R2-R9, LR}
    MOV    R0, R5, LSL R9
    LDR    R2, =currentCharacter
    LDRB    R2, [R2]
    LDR    R3, =0x212E2D8
    CMP    R2, #0
    BEQ    .mario
    CMP R2, #1
    BEQ    .luigi
    CMP R2, #2
    BEQ    .luigi
    CMP R2, #3
    BEQ    .waluigi
    CMP R2, #4
    BEQ    .mario
    CMP R2, #5
    BEQ    .wario
    CMP R2, #6
    BEQ    .wario
    CMP R2, #7
    BEQ    .waluigi
    CMP R2, #8
    BEQ    .mario

    .continue:
    STR    R4, [R3]
    STR    R4, [R3, #0x40]
    STR    R4, [R3, #0x80]
    STR    R5, [R3, #0xE0]
    STR    R5, [R3, #0x100]
    STR    R6, [R3, #0xE4]
    STR    R6, [R3, #0x104]
    STR    R7, [R3, #0xE8]
    STR    R7, [R3, #0x108]
    STR    R8, [R3, #0xEC]
    STR    R8, [R3, #0x10C]
    STR    R9, [R3, #0xFC]
    LDMFD    SP!, {R2-R9, PC}

    .mario:
        LDR    R4, =0x3A80
        MOV    R5, #0x90
        MOV    R6, #0xB0
        MOV    R7, #0x80
        MOV    R8, #0x60
        MOV    R9, #0x180
        B .continue

    .luigi:
        LDR    R4, =0x4080
        MOV    R5, #0x60
        MOV    R6, #0x78
        MOV    R7, #0x54
        MOV    R8, #0x40
        MOV    R9, #0x100
        B .continue

    .wario:
        LDR    R4, =0x3580
        MOV    R5, #0xc0
        MOV    R6, #0xB0
        MOV    R7, #0x80
        MOV    R8, #0x60
        MOV    R9, #0x180
        B .continue

    .waluigi:
        LDR    R4, =0x4880
        MOV    R5, #0x30
        MOV    R6, #0xB0
        MOV    R7, #0x80
        MOV    R8, #0x60
        MOV    R9, #0x180
        B .continue

)");}

[amber zephyr]

waluigi jumps to mars lol

[onyx lantern]

Instead of just changing the jump height, maybe try their speed?

[amber zephyr]

waluigi could be faster cuz long legs?

[onyx lantern]

Mario and Luigi can be based on jumps, Wario and Waluigi can be based on speed

[fossil token]

its on the todo list

[onyx lantern]

Idk just throwing in ideas lol cuz Waluigi is kinda busted

[fossil token]

hes gonna be way more slipery than luigi

and he also wont jump that high

[onyx lantern]

Aight fair enough

[fossil token]

~~ I wanna see jpg try and write code for custom players, its curently at 1.5k lines~~ it also inclues basic level intros though because player select but that still counts

[stoic lava]

-# ~~ i dont even know how to make my actor walk, nor i know coding, mostly of what i "know" frosty teached me how to do 😭 ~~

[stoic lava]

LMAO

[cloud pilot]

Is ndy an easter egg or like just another character?

[stoic lava]

Its like any character actually

[cloud pilot]

Oh

[blazing jungle]

take a Waluigi model for SM64

the character looking short looks very weird...

[stoic lava]

Its because it uses mario armature

[blazing jungle]

Don't think that's a reason

I think it's because the character isn't T-posing properly

and waluigi is just crouching down lol

[analog oracle]

can the armature even be changed tho

i mean even the other characters have a bit of issues with that aswell

not as bad as waluigi though

[stoic lava]

Or there inst the propper vertex shading/weight paint

[blazing jungle]

i still think its this
waluigi is crawling down to the same height as mario's

i think Illy did change the armature cuz if it used the very same Wario would also look shorter and stubby

[analog oracle]

every character except waluigi is about the same height as Mario lmao

[stoic lava]

Iirc its nld model

[blazing jungle]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/waluigi-for-super-mario-64-ds-45e52671622e444387c97b4e839f0b89

probably should try this

[pseudo verge]

would yopu like a nother helper

[pseudo verge]

i think we can add 5 star coins for a retro world

[stoic lava]

Not possible to do it iirc, she said it once

[pseudo verge]

oh

i did not see the message

[stoic lava]

Make star coin straight, and add the name of a-side or b-side to say wich the player is on

[stoic lava]

It was on a nsmb request post i did once

[pseudo verge]

oh

okay

do you guys need any help with anything?

[fossil token]

I tried making the proportions right

That’s why the first attempts were messed up

I do not want to spend 10 hours editing each bit of the xml file trying to get it right

[pseudo verge]

hmm it seems you need to put waluigi onto luigi and wario onto mario

[stoic lava]

Actually its only illy working on the mod

[pseudo verge]

oh

[stoic lava]

She uses a extended character code hack wich makes you be able to play with a lot of characters, without replacing any, i cant wait to play with yoshi when she releases it

Ill play with red yoshi

Yoshi is my favourite mario character

Btw whats your favourite character?

[pseudo verge]

princess peach

[stoic lava]

Ohh cool!!

[pseudo verge]

yeah

im working on a hole thing myself i just dont want to share it out yet

[fossil token]

wario has the same armture

I tried waluigi with a diffrent one but it screwed up the model

[fossil token]

that needs to be the case as otherwise waluigi would be way to tall and player collisions would be wrong

[fossil token]

the weight paint is right, only the right fist has weight

[stoic lava]

Ohh

Inst it the whole arm tho?

[pseudo verge]

okay im trying out my mod rq

[fossil token]

wario physics

he is so fat that he doesnt slide when changing direction and his jump is slightly weaker than mario's

acceleration is faster though

so its mario on steriods

[pseudo verge]

yeah looks like it

[fossil token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENY2OXxpYjs

the only word I can use to describe waluigi's movment is "skibidi"

[onyx lantern]

Does waluigi have any other modifications besides his high jump?

[lapis lark]

he's more slippery

[ocean pivot]

i hope waluigi and wario will be more unique than just re skined mario and luigi

i remember that one hack with wario that had a spin attack or something like that, that was dope 😭

[lapis lark]

i hope you remember the name of the hack because that sounds awesome

[wraith gust]

I wanna assume he's refering to nld's hack #mod-updates message

[iron igloo]

wario’s armature is 64ds’ whereas waluigi’s is rigged to mario’s 64ds armature so yes you are correct about that but its not easy with this game to get it looking right; its incredibly tedious

especially with models that don’t have the same proportions as mario

I think we can all see why waluigi was never used in a 2D mario title

rigging that body would be near impossible

[stoic lava]

Nld, u could make a tutorial on replacing mario model on maya? I wanted to make a different mario body model in my mod

[iron igloo]

since in all modern 2D titles the characters follow a similar armature and structure and animations

why maya

nns plugin is way better

[stoic lava]

My pc dont run blender 2.8 and above

So maya is my only option

[iron igloo]

should be pretty similar process to what is done in blender then

you just need an IMD out of maya

using nitro plugin

[stoic lava]

Ohh

[lapis lark]

thank you

[blazing jungle]

oh okay, thanks, never thought NSMB could be so complex like that xd

i thought it was easy because i did something similar but alright

[stoic lava]

It is, easier than smw modding tho

[pseudo verge]

its true

[blazing jungle]

you just reminded me the time i was making a SMB2J romhack... 💔

i hate you jpg

one day you will become png

and i will erase you completetly

and only leave the background

[stoic lava]

😨

[stoic lava]

Oloko

[cloud pilot]

Carai

[fathom kraken]

Cu Cha Cha cu Cha cha

[pseudo verge]

ninja what

[runic storm]

caralho meu

[fossil token]

so this is why waluigi's sound effects weren't playing

[fossil token]

waluigi's sfx are done now

[fossil token]

And im fucking done wirh wario too now

unless I decide to add his dash which could be fun to try and program

[stoic lava]

Illy is cooking 🔥

[fossil token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZcWiNt9F9M

[stoic lava]

I saw the notification on yt

[fossil token]

the name is "wario time" because "waluigi time" got a lot of views really fast

so im trying to milk the algorithm

just noticed I forgot to credit nld in the description

gotta update that now

[stoic lava]

Yea thats pretty smart actually

[fossil token]

Im gonna try and release another patch for the demo tmr

if it works well enough and is mostly bug free it will be the final release of the demo

[fossil token]

I think I managed to recreate that bug that a few of you were talking about

if I am in the parashell state on the wm, save then reload the game gets stuck on a black screen

okay but the hammer shell works fine

[rich palm]

I love how Small Wario is a Wario Land reference

[fathom kraken]

No infinite yoshi ?:Mariosad:

[quaint gorge]

Hack is looking better and better each day

Hope to see some work on levels too soon

[stoic lava]

Fr

[fossil token]

im always slowly working on levels in the background

[fossil token]

managed to get the full versions of snailacorn ruins and petey's castle working

that also means the camera is fixed in snaiacorn ruins

[stoic lava]

Illy snaili. ruins will be on the demo?

[fossil token]

it was on the demo

1-a silly

[stoic lava]

OH 😭

[wraith gust]

Bro did not play the demo

[stoic lava]

Im wating for the fixed version since yall said it crashes in the title screen after reseting

[wraith gust]

On real hardware only, idk if it also happens on emulator

[stoic lava]

Ohh

[wide furnace]

reseting?

[mortal arrow]

Will Wario have the same moveset as Wario Land 4 or will he just have different physical moves?
I love how this project is evolving and seeing Wario as an independent character is beautiful, you're making an incredible hack ^^

[iron igloo]

@fossil token I have old animations created for an extension of wario time that was basically a rice beach recreation, essentially I was going to properly port wario’s moveset but never got to it

if you want to recreate that stuff I have the resources

[fossil token]

oh nice, if your okay with me using it then ill try it

if I give wario his full wario land move set for the wario land fanboys then I might give waluigi Madeline's move set for all the celeste fangirls

[olive owl]

That is so cursed and yet that's not a terrible idea LOL

[iron igloo]

only thing is adding anims is pretty tedious

taco made a tool for it

and it can be done

[rich palm]

Having never played Celeste, do it

[lapis lark]

ive only ever played celeste classic but yeah go for it

[wide furnace]

why don't you just add Madeline into the hack?

[stoic lava]

^

Ig the problem would be get the model

[wide furnace]

yeah true

[fathom kraken]

The one from Celeste 64, since she is little it could be always at one hit from dying, but it has a dash (Or two)

[stoic lava]

It need to be low poly tho

[fossil token]

M just not gonna respond to these comments

1. I have made freezeflame and I don’t like it anymore so I haven’t made anymore

2. The point is that the melody is off key

3. How about you try coding a sholder bash lol, I am planing on doing this but it’s not easy

4. It’s not even 64ds voice clips

[amber zephyr]

'I want a early acess or i cut the earth'

11 year old kid ahh comment

[blazing jungle]

"M just not gonna respond to these comments"

you just DID

technically

[fossil token]

Yeah lol. It’s kinda annoying having a large following because I feel like I need to respond more I them all, even the dumb ones or if people have left the exact same comment and I have already answered

[rich palm]

Ngl I respect that you're going to code it in

None of this sounds easy and it just goes to show how much time and effort's being put into the hack

But yeah, I can see why dumbasses in the comments can get annoying

[ocean pivot]

freezeflame theme...

there are sooooooo many posiblities but nah, freezeflame that has been done so much and most of the times not being great

[rich palm]

Ice and poison is a fun combo idea

I've seen nuclear winters done before and that could tie into that

[analog oracle]

#1340066347052175511 message @fossil token since your logo is pretty simple i didnt mind trying it out lol

here ya go (ingame and bigger res for other purposes)

(oh also before you ask, the ingame version is already nitro painted)

[wide furnace]

time to use the 256 colors logo code hack Illy

[cloud pilot]

What song is un the title screen ?

[lapis lark]

https://youtu.be/DFgIfLjJT4M?si=pWmh58bj88dOe9XP

[fossil token]

I havent been able to work on this hack for the past few days and I honestly dont know if I will be able to for the next week, even though its school holidays I have had some other stuff going on which has ate all of my freetime

[fossil token]

thanks, I needed a scaled up version

[wraith gust]

Felt, I haven't been working on my hack too much lately due to lack of time, and I have been having zero motivation to work on it lately

[fossil token]

I have motivation, I have some stuff I really wanna grind out tbh

like I wanna code lemmy

finish of the player movesets and a lot of other stuff

[analog oracle]

same

[fossil token]

I have some free time so I just started coding waluigi related stuff

[civic cloud]

I've been considering it for a level, maybe treat the poison like it's supposed to be freezing water, idk

Omg I just realized since this is a mod, the poison can actually change colors, make it light blue or cyan to represent freezing water

Instead of generic bottomless pit, ice levels could be decorated like that

I wonder why Nintendo never does that

Only in 3D

[fossil token]

I did have a plan to make ice water and the player takes damage if they are in it for to long but I couldn't find a good way to indicate it

I have a really intersting bug, you can long jump out of waluigi/blue yoshis wall climb

ima clean it up and leave it in the game since it could allow for a really cool secret

[civic cloud]

Odyssey's method of the screen turning bright blue or white

[fossil token]

this is why I usually dont do code in asm

[wraith gust]

PLEASE REPORT!

[fossil token]

Gonna post a showcase of waluigi's climb soon

just waiting for it to upload to yt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88zZtXV_PZw

first bloody comment

im tempted to say...

if you want them to be playable try making her model and all her sound effects. If you can ill add her

[fathom kraken]

Maybe Waluigi is the best character after all, I'm afraid the same thing will happen as in SMB2, that Mario will be useless

[fossil token]

Waluigi has really skidi physics

You can’t do precise platforming with him

And the climb is literally only useful in towers

[fathom kraken]

What mechanic will Wario have? Super Ground-pound?

[fossil token]

^

[fathom kraken]

Ah the Wario land moveset, cool

Madeline can climb?

Didn't remember that

[ocean pivot]

will be toad playable?

[fossil token]

If someone makes a toad model then yes

[ocean pivot]

that was a joke but i could know rigging i could've done it

[fossil token]

if @ nld sends the toad models he made then maybe I will

I actually do plan on having 16 playable characters…

[amber zephyr]

LOL

16

[fossil token]

So I can have a 4x4 character select menu

[amber zephyr]

ah yeah

colored toads!

[fossil token]

Mario, Luigi, wario, waluigi,
Yoshi, yoshi, yoshi, yoshi,
Toad, toad, toad, toad,
Toadette, toadsworth, nabbit, bowser jr

That’s the planned playable characters

And as I have said jr becomes playable after you beat the game

But this all depends on if I can rig the models

[fossil token]

I think I might try and do one of those player models when I get back from the hospital tonight

It’s always really fun to code that player stuff since it works in real hardware now

[ocean pivot]

if you need icons then just ping me, I'll make more ;p

[fossil token]

You can do them now if you want

I don’t mind

The toads are the same colours as the yoshis btw

[ocean pivot]

oh alright, I might try today the toads and maybe nabbit since they're pretty simple

but that depends if I will be tired or not

[fathom kraken]

Toadsworth? It's just Toad but with lore and cool

Though Nabbit could be interesting, if he's not invincible

[fossil token]

Yeah, he’s not gonna be invincible

Everybody loves him but hates how they are invincible

What even is nabits gender, hmm

They have no gender, just thievery

[fathom kraken]

I think nabbit is a Ninji in a costume

And ninjis are boys

But

White ninjis are girls for sure

look:

https://tenor.com/view/bowser-lick-my-feet-mario-bowser-feet-bowser-feet-lick-gif-14894835

Freaky ahh ninjis

[fossil token]

Ur the freaky one for sending that gif

And why are they girls if they wear white?

[fathom kraken]

I didn't even think of that, they could be boys too, or non binary, or just NaN

[warped briar]

He is referred to with he

[fathom kraken]

Nabbit and Jr. are rivals, cause Nabbit robbed jr in the past

They use the same clothes

[ocean pivot]

have i sent you already my nabbit model illy??

[fossil token]

What says that btw, I’m curious

The other thing is that the voice actor is a female for Mario wonder but in nsmbu it’s a male.

[warped briar]

https://www.mariowiki.com/List_of_Nabbit_profiles_and_statistics

You can find descriptions about Nabbit from various games

[fossil token]

The wiki uses a mix of he/him and it/its as well as they/them for nabbit

[rich palm]

New++ is just becoming the one way you can turn your DS into a bomb at this point

I think I've seen the extent of your abilities and ambitions, but then there's more

[fossil token]

Is it possible?

[pulsar holly]

Yes, it probably is

[fossil token]

As taco says

[blazing jungle]

Can a DS handle a letter bomb? 🤫

[amber zephyr]

lol

glitter bomb

[fossil token]

I had to move black bowser jrs code back into arm9 since there is also some hooks into the spike ball, that means the retail final boss doesn’t work anymore so I need to move some other thing into overlays

So much of this hack would t be possible without mamma Mia team and nld

Also will smith

[warped briar]

It doesn't ever reffer to him with they or them

And the only instance of "its" is right after referring to him as "mysterious creature", which does fit

[fossil token]

I have also read some media a while back, not official but it was saying that in official Japanese nintendo media nabbit is referred to without a gender. If I can find it ill send it

anyways

time to start working on adding everybody's leat fav toad to nsmbds

this specific toad is the one thats getting added

[amber zephyr]

TOAD

[fossil token]

the best part of tiny palettes is that setting up the powerup states is so easy

I hate fixing bloody uv maps

toad has boobs

[bronze shell]

not a sentance I expected to see today

[amber zephyr]

wow

[stoic lava]

Japan flag

[stoic lava]

I hate uvmapping 😭

[olive owl]

I can’t believe I’ve been cut from the cast

[warped briar]

4 toads?

[fossil token]

I made a mistake, there isnt a red toad, thats toadsworth

and then ur ment to be were toadsworth is

[olive owl]

[fossil token]

yeah, the colours determine which plumber's physics they have

[warped briar]

Oh, interesting

Does that mean Blue Toad is the missing one?

[fossil token]

waluigi is blue (I know hes purple but my colour blind makes me see him as blue)

so blue yoshi and toad share his physics

[warped briar]

So then purple is the missing Toad colour

Makes enough sense, I suppose

[amber zephyr]

So has waluigi faster walking speed then?

Cuz blue toad speedy

[fossil token]

i have already shown the physics...

time to add the cursed weighting

[olive owl]

I can’t wait to cheese every vertical level as Waluigi

[fossil token]

there is gonna be a timer on his climb

[stoic lava]

But doenst DS only support blue and red weight?

[fossil token]

thats the mario 64 ds weight paint

[stoic lava]

Ah

[amber zephyr]

Ik

[fossil token]

... maybe I should try this again tmr

[wraith gust]

He's naked

[fossil token]

I think this is because how the polygons of the model are and they need to be really specific for Mario’s animations

I’ll try reshaping sm64ds Mario into a toad shape

[lapis lark]

imagine if they actually do

[fossil token]

nsmbwii toad might be low poly enough to work

maybe not

toads worth has pretty good armture

wasnt expecting that, hopefully its not to hard to rig

[lapis lark]

the abomination

[amber zephyr]

lol

[bronze shell]

I see no problem here

[fossil token]

kinda decent attempt

[bronze shell]

looks exactly like ndymario

your on the right track

[wide furnace]

Not a Number 🔥

[fossil token]

getting better

the cape is making this annoying

[wide furnace]

now he just looks like a king with his outfit lol

good luck tho

also just a question: why are you doing the toads but not peach? i know that peach doesn't have a proper armature, but isn't that the case for toad as well?

[stoic lava]

The dress would be annoying to rig

[wide furnace]

oh, fair then

[blazing jungle]

ndy built like a clash royale king (he is )

[wraith gust]

Why didn't you just take the Toad model from ASMB/New Super Toad DS? That could probably have taken you less work

[fossil token]

because they look like ass

its litrally the mario body retextures with a custom head

[stoic lava]

Yea

But we need to know that its a old hack, and its really ahead its time

[fossil token]

I was looking back at nld's guide for the player models and I honestly dont really know what im messing up. Is there anyway to rip the player animations from nsmbds? I wanna see if everything is rigged correctly in blender

[rich palm]

You're the playground rumour character, clearly

[rich palm]

The Sonic Rush Adventure autism is making me think of Captain Whisker despite the two having nothing in common

[runic storm]

https://tenor.com/view/donkey-kong-dong-monkey-gorilla-gif-16118261

[fossil token]

Random idea, should I give all players the ability to climb for like two seconds and have waluigi be able to climb for ten seconds

Would break a secret that requires a shell jump for a 100 coin in a level but it would allow so much more complexity for b sides

[olive owl]

I feel like climbing should be a character specific gimmick

It low key fits Waluigi lmao

But it would look really strange if Mario were climbing

At least in my opinion

[civic cloud]

Playable Nabbit and Bowser Jr weren't on my bingo card 🔥🔥🔥

What are the Toad colors tho? Red, green, yellow and blue?

[fossil token]

Yeah, but red is toadsworth

[civic cloud]

Oh I thought Toadsworth and Toadette were separate

I understood there are 4 colored generic Toads aside from Toadette and Toadsworth

Also doesn't Toadsworth only have a red vest in the past era? In present era I've always seen him have a purple one

[fossil token]

Good point, it’s just really fun movement and I’m an enjoyer of movement tec

Maybe I’ll do some thing where if you do a mid air twirl right before you hit a wall you get an upwards bounce or smth

[iron igloo]

will send toad stuff in a bit

[cloud pilot]

Yellow toad

[stoic lava]

LMFAO

[fossil token]

I hate when there is that bit of the model that doesnt work as expected

[fossil token]

thanks, that will be a massive time save

[rich palm]

New++ & Knuckles

[blazing jungle]

With new Funky mode

[analog oracle]

if you want toadsworth voice clips you can check if you can get the ones from mario super sluggers, you'd prob have to heavily compress em tho cause its a wii game lol

(peak game btw)

[fossil token]

nice

[fossil token]

started throwing together the charecter select menu

well, level intro menu

[cloud pilot]

He is so happy i love it

[ocean pivot]

@fossil token

[civic cloud]

Awesome

Forgot to ask, is this the fully Red Toad? Or does he have a blue vest?

[fossil token]

red toad isnt part of it

hes a placeholder

since bowser jr is gonna be a lot more work then all the others I need smth as he wont be part of the demo most likley

[civic cloud]

Oh that's what you meant by Red Toad being Toadsworth

I was confused before

Are all four 4 generic Toads placeholders? Or do we still Blue Toad and Yellow Toad?

[fossil token]

Blue yellow and green are staying

I think I might do some trickery to put them all into the same model

[blazing jungle]

how many toads do we need 🪦

[fossil token]

toadsworth, green, blue, yellow and toadtte

reds a place holder and toadsworth is in nabits place

then for the demo Im thinking of making bowser jr's place pick a random charecter

[stoic lava]

How u will fit that there 😭 💔

[fossil token]

because I dont have images of the level

its a player select screen

[fossil token]

not a level intro

[ocean pivot]

i improved the colorus abit

[stoic lava]

Ahhhh

[fossil token]

I quickly made this

I plan on making the background changed depending on the levels theme

[stoic lava]

Add the level name too ig

That gives the level a identity

[fossil token]

What do u think the space is for

[stoic lava]

Idk

[rich palm]

I wonder if the creepy Easter Egg background will be different

[stoic lava]

Ig it could apear smh

[cloud pilot]

I think it would be cool to put something this on the bowser junior character selection space while he hasent been unlocked yet

[ocean pivot]

illy, you can check mario kart super circuit or any other one to have a inspiration/reference for that menu

[runic storm]

suggestion: add donkey kong and diddy kong. they might be cool characters to add

[stoic lava]

The rig tho

[runic storm]

hmm

[ocean pivot]

illy, please add cow, goomba, jpg as playable characters

[runic storm]

diddy is quite easy not sure

dk is the only problematic character here but still cool however

[wraith gust]

Illy add Miku and Mita, I'll rig the models for you (I don't know how to model)

[runic storm]

oh god, what i've done

[fossil token]

https://tenor.com/view/mita-miside-crazy-mita-anime-girl-anime-gif-4212635356140433791

[wraith gust]

https://tenor.com/view/miside-mita-cool-mita-cappie-glance-gif-319622690871977755

[stoic lava]

LMFAO

[fossil token]

setting up the function to render this cursor was a pain

[olive owl]

Good job

It'll be funny when people play this who don't know the "Central Lore" ask who is the Mario with the crown lmao

[fossil token]

it will when I get even more people being dicks due to me not adding a character they want and then Nathanial bandy will play the hack and say your charecter is waising a slot that queen bee could of had/j

[fossil token]

the itadaki street ds toad model has a very simmiler mesh structure to mario unlike toadsworth and the 64ds toad

I hope this ones animations dont turn out broken

[ocean pivot]

@fossil token

[fossil token]

I saw

[ocean pivot]

yeah, I just wanted ot be sure that you didn't missed 😭, nice

[fossil token]

I’m a mod, I read through every message on the server anyways

Besides Sakura smb

[olive owl]

How did you make the bouncy balls react to the stage?

I assume colliders

This is my first time trying to mess with them

[fossil token]

yeah

this is the important part

[olive owl]

Could you send the .hpp too

[fossil token]

its litrally the most generic hpp file ever lol

[fossil token]

this toad also did not turn out, and I swear whenever I try to edit the imd a tiny bit to just changed what bones are linked I get "unknown exception"

[lapis lark]

lemmys balls

[fossil token]

@iron igloo do you happen to have the blender project of any of your custom player models still? Im trying to find out why my player models always end up looking deformed like this. The yoshi model I ripped from 64 ds was easy and hasnt given me any of these problems.

[civic cloud]

I can't believe you're not adding Marty the Thwomp as a playable character smh

[rich palm]

Motobug the Badnik in Sonic 1-ass choice

[olive owl]

Oh I'm a goof, I didn't realize collisionMgr was built into a stage actor :p

[fossil token]

I have started working on another boss

gonna try to not show it off until the yt showcase

[lapis lark]

https://tenor.com/view/frodo-keep-your-secrets-alright-then-lotr-gif-12907121

[fossil token]

its a non koopaling

I needed smth else for w8 tower :3

[lapis lark]

i just know its gonna be peak

[fathom kraken]

Ztardust boss fight?

Jpg boss? (Steals the custom characters, because they are code hacks)

[lapis lark]

jpg boss - obliterates your vram

[fathom kraken]

Jpg boss - Crashes on Real Hardware

[bronze shell]

Jpg boss - more than 1000000000 nwav tracks, slows down your hardware

[fossil token]

I pulled off the roy fight, that shit is so intense on the graphics engine lol. I should be fine

the roy fight is really light on textures though

[fathom kraken]

Did you pull off the third phase from Roy's Boss Fight?

[fossil token]

its not fully done

roy is already such a lrage boss fight with so much code. The problem is that I need to rethink how to do a lot of it so the game doesnt crash on real hardware. I need to move some stuff out of arm9 into the overlays but a lot of the stuff in arm9 is important stuff like the bubble powerups

[fathom kraken]

From what world is Roy? W5?

[fossil token]

yeah

since the level that this boss is part of uses a ripped tile set as of now I had to skip the name of one of the files/j

I didnt intend on doing that it ws by accident and I found it funny

[fossil token]

good by random two phase disposable bowser jr that spawns a shell cover bowser jr upon defeat, you will not be missed and will probably never be seen again unless jpg looks through the jr code when I release it and decides to put it in ssmb

[fossil token]

tiny showcase of the boss

[olive owl]

Thwomp boss

[wraith gust]

I understood the joke

[fossil token]

I think I have had enough of this bossfight coding for now, I spent like an hour just trying to find out why the game was crashing when I was drawing the model but I got it working

[rich palm]

PiT moment

[rich palm]

Larry's cousin Barry?

Not to be confused with the Pixl

[fossil token]

I changed my mind about keeping it secret, I decided that yall can give ideas for the attacks

[ocean pivot]

check the boss fight from yoshis island

[fossil token]

Already did

The bitch is gonna spawn mini mushrooms and crap in this boss fight

I wanna fill it with references to if u can. But that won’t be easy

This is already the most code optimised boss too

I plan on making this one public when it’s done

[fathom kraken]

Maybe moving blocks and spikes like in Wii

[fossil token]

Not song stuff like Wii or u

The fights are kinda ass

At least give original ideas

The whole point of this hack is to be unique

[vernal thicket]

wb like

touhou ass projectile hell

[fathom kraken]

Ok, then, you could make kamek shoot projectiles that bounce on walls

[fossil token]

In a fight where there is no walls Because it’s scrolling? Sounds like a great idea

[fossil token]

Yeah, I’m kinda thinking of having some basic platforming whilst dodging that

I could take the bounce idea

[fathom kraken]

Then add moving walls like in New Wii 🪬

[fossil token]

If I have some hight elevations but that could allow for cheese so u wanna keep it flat and make the player only able play I hit kamek when he gets off his broom

[fossil token]

The idea is for it to not be like Wii or u

Doing those fights again is lame

[civic cloud]

Make it so he teleports away when the player approaches so you'll need to rely on projectiles to attack him such as Koopa shells and Bob-Ombs

Also this is peak, Kamek is my favorite character

[fossil token]

That’s a really good idea

I like it

[civic cloud]

Thanks

[fossil token]

Changes the stomp formula

[civic cloud]

I kinda took inspiration from Yoshi's New Island of all things

If that game did one thing right it's the Kamek fights

You need indirect methods of attack

Also, make Kamek spawn clones in his final phase, up to you to decide how obvious the main one is, what are the indicators, etc

[fossil token]

I still might make the player able to jump on kamek but it will be really tight like the super fast jr kill

[civic cloud]

Ok that could work

[fossil token]

That’s also a good idea. I don’t think I have enough ram for that though, I’ll see

[civic cloud]

Like if it requires real skill to cheese it

Ok

Also a random idea in case you happen to want to include Magikoopas as regular enemies, Kamek's robes are a bit more light blue while regular Magikoopas have darker blue robes

Or they straight up have different colors, M&L games do the latter

[fossil token]

Was thinking I’ll make them different colours like the ones under rouge port in ttyd if I did them

[civic cloud]

Yeah that works

[amber zephyr]

kamek is clever, well done illy

but yeah a bullet hell with obstacles

[wide furnace]

Probably obvious but first of all, make him shoot his magic projectiles. Then, you could also place a bunch of blocks here and there, which Kamek can transform into enemies or powerups.
You could also probably make him charge down (same way as lakithunder for example).

Suggestion from Cloudie: You could also make him create fake clones of himself, just like Pom Pom in sm3dw/l ^-^

[lapis lark]

once again just when i think the hack has peaked it gets even better 🔥🔥🔥

[fathom kraken]

What about a swirl? Kamek waves his wand and two whirlpools appear, one of them is fake and when it gets close to Mario it disappears, doing no damage.

Wait wait wait, Kamek isn't a girl?

Bruh

[ocean pivot]

it's bowser daddy

[fossil token]

so I cant do clones really

so this is the concept I settled on

You have to use the Kamek's summons against him, the main method of dealing damege is throwing a koopashell at him when you bounce of smth

then you can also use the mega spring

this is just a quick throw together to show off the idea

[fathom kraken]

From what game is that song?

[stoic lava]

Seens familiar to me

[fathom kraken]

I like how the fight is similar to the gimmick in that level in NSMBABA with the tetris blocks

[wide furnace]

interesting

would probably be nice if he shot more projectiles tho

[fossil token]

as I said I quickly through it together

its just looping the same attack for the whole vid

[stoic lava]

Hi illy Hi bester

[wide furnace]

okay, so i'm guessing it was planned

[amber zephyr]

paper mario sticker star

[civic cloud]

I think Kamek should spawn empty shells at some point cuz by the time you wait for a trampoline to show up, the Koopa would wake up

Otherwise Kamek's movement setup is excellent

With the autoscroller

It's really unique

[rich palm]

Maybe homing fireballs as wrll?

[rich palm]

The track's name is "Malevolent Magikoopa, Kamek"; it's his battle theme in Sticker Star

[civic cloud]

Aka peak

(his track, not necessarily the game)

[acoustic granite]

Cool! Kamek Is Gonna Be A World 8 Boss.

[rich palm]

Ngl Sticker Star, as much flack as it gets from others (and me) had peak music

[rich palm]

New++

[fossil token]

That’s literally the story of the game, it takes place at the end of the Mario timeline

[fossil token]

There is gonna be much more then what I have made there

Those attacks are kind of intended to give you a way to through smth at kamek half the time

I’m gonna have multiple fire attacks

Then a dedicated shell spawn attack and some other things

[civic cloud]

Oh ok excellent

Looking forward

Sometimes I'm so impressed by what you add that I fail to consider there'll be more to it

This is why I tend to nitpick

[civic cloud]

Fr

The Bowser theme they composed for it (and improved even further in Color Splash) is a contender for the definitive Bowser theme imo

Rivaled by his SMB3 fortress theme, his SM64 theme, the SM3DW motif, and his M&L theme

[lapis lark]

i think bowser's galaxy generator would work well for a trailer song

given the context

[fathom kraken]

Will new++ have MvL courses?

[fossil token]

No

[cloud pilot]

Bc if new++ had MvL courses it would have to be named MvLvTvTvTvTvYvYvYvYvTvBvWvWvN
because of the amount of new playable characters

[olive owl]

https://tenor.com/view/fzfd-gif-16783966853415548673

[wraith gust]

You forgot the "N" because of Ndy

[analog oracle]

seriously speaking though why arent ya adding mvsl levels

my best guess is the character selection system interrupting it or just causing some stuff to not work well in mvsl lol

[fossil token]

Because my hack is just to massive and a lot of shit will probably be broken

[fossil token]

decided to use buzzy shells instead, since I can make them spawn in the upsidown rolling shelldrop state easily

[civic cloud]

Is this referring to the Kamek fight?

[fossil token]

The message before that didn’t send for some reason lol

But yes it is

[civic cloud]

Neat

[rich palm]

I just realised that you could use everyone dying to excuse a lack of postgame content

That and the game having a million things in it already

[fossil token]

only jr and the player die

the other koopalings just get knocked out

or they both survive in the good ending

[cloud pilot]

What about the mario party jamboree ending I suggested a while ago

.

[rich palm]

Multiple endings?

Girl, I am worried

You're cooking too hard

[lapis lark]

i forgot you plan to have multiple endings

peak is gonna be even more peak

[civic cloud]

Fr

[rich palm]

Off topic but I keep thinking the face in your pfp is Doomguy

This face specifically

[stoic lava]

Now i cant unsee it 😭

[wide furnace]

lmao 😭

[civic cloud]

Same haha

I've done different variations of the Darth Troller face, this could be the next one perhaps

[fossil token]

doging this attack is so tight

ima need to shrink the hitboxes

[fathom kraken]

Woah, looks so cool!

[lapis lark]

i imagine the b side will be hell

[fathom kraken]

Is it inspired in the SMW bowser boss fight?

[fossil token]

yeah

[wide furnace]

it was my thought as well

[fossil token]

I was just doing a test for the two current attacks and the seed was so bad

I did not get a single big spring and they are the most common spawn

anyways, so he has 360hp

stomps deal 60

shells deal 120

hammers/superballs/fireballs deal 10

I still need to code in a dedicated attack where kamek can be hit more easily

[lapis lark]

kamek summoning rolling spike balls could be a cool attack
i noticed all of the horizontally-moving obstacles are a little slow and unintimidating

[fathom kraken]

Or summoning two tornadoes

[fathom kraken]

Like I said here

[fossil token]

The horizontal movement is meant to be your chance to attack

All the things spawned give you a chance to climb up to kamek

Well besides fire and theomps

Those I plan on moving to another attack though

[fossil token]

That won’t work lol

It’s not even an actor that would make sense in this fight

[fathom kraken]

):

[tepid temple]

Dysfunctional shells

You're using spawnActor aren't you

Bet I could groundpound the thwomps

Always use spawnStageObject

[stoic lava]

Yea some actor spawner spawns can be groundpounded

[rich palm]

Would it be possible to make the fireballs explode when they come into contact with the ground?

Just an aesthetic touch

It looks tight enough to dodge as is

[civic cloud]

Are the non-rolling Buzzy shells done on purpose? And is it just something that happens in this fight? I was thinking they could be reskinned into Mecha-Koopas

Since that's exactly how they behave

Or at least change colors, like a pale grey, kinda like Stone Buzzy Beetle, those guys don't roll either

[stoic lava]

Yea true

I did mecha koopas over bobombs smhsmhsmhdmh

[wide furnace]

"smhsmhsmh" 😭

why did i read it as "smshsmshsmsh" 😭

[pseudo verge]

smashmashmash

[fossil token]

they do roll

they are just normal buzzys

if you through them while holding down they dont roll

[stoic lava]

Yea

[fossil token]

why are you saying "yeah" when you were agreeing to the messages about them not rolling?

[stoic lava]

Wdym
-# sorry for my dumbnesss

[civic cloud]

Oh you actually programmed that feature into NSMB, neat

[fossil token]

nope

its in the game by default

[fossil token]

this fight can get very hard

im upload a wip vid of it to my yt for some feedback i think

[fossil token]

I love grabing a random frame of the vid for the thumbnail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLd5TfO03t4

[civic cloud]

Oh cool, I specifically remember this not being a thing in the NSMB games

[fossil token]

looks like skawo had that same problem with streamed music that we have with nwav

[fossil token]

makes sense.

Thats also the only place I have experienced the nwav issues

[civic cloud]

I didn't mention this, but having Wario and Yoshi in NSMB is a dream come true, ever since childhood, I was wondering why they were absent in this game that was clearly a sort of follow-up to SM64DS, we even have their minigames

I actually had a dream where they could be found in some secret exits in World 8 levels like 2 years ago, and then they'd follow you to the exit

I also once had a dream 3 years ago where there was a cutscene in the beginning of World 5 of Kamek interacting with an unidentified purple Magikoopa (either Kammy or Kamella)

This hack is literally bringing to life my dreams of seeing Kamek, Wario and Yoshi in NSMB

[amber zephyr]

On what server is skawo

I wanna show cool stingby

[fossil token]

His server

[amber zephyr]

oh cool

[fossil token]

tried to match the fire colour

[amber zephyr]

Sick

Looks tight

[fathom kraken]

The hotbox is not that big though

Hitbox*

[amber zephyr]

Ah

Nvm then

[wraith gust]

So, from what I understand it's just a Twilight issue and it has no fix?

[fossil token]

Yeah

Twilight just isn’t fast enough

Which makes sense since it’s a ram problem

[wraith gust]

Darn it

[fossil token]

Maybe if we increase the amount of ram that’s assigned to music it could fix it

[wraith gust]

Isn't that pretty much what the sound heap increase code hack does? Tho, it only applies to SSEQ's, not sure if it also works with NWAV

[fossil token]

people are unable to read the title

this person... I just dont know what to say

[amber zephyr]

Lol

[wraith gust]

I replied to both of them hoping that YouTube doesn't delete my comments like it always does

[fossil token]

on the topic of that, I just finished coding the hit state. I havent tested it yet so lets hope it looks decent

[rich palm]

Holy shit, new pfp

[fossil token]

this is what the hit animation looks like

also, me actauly killing kamek in one of these for once

I want to make the alpha fade but for some reason it isnt working

[fossil token]

I made it on picrew with a free to use avatar maker

also I bet the celeste d sides mod not long ago so I decided I could finally change it to smth

[rich palm]

I see

[amber zephyr]

Pcreww

Picreww

[lapis lark]

nice!

[amber zephyr]

Neko kitty

[lapis lark]

cool profile pic

[rich palm]

I can't get over how small Waluigi looks

I know it's a Wario Land reference (which is based)

But he looks like a goofy bobblehead in the best way possible

[lapis lark]

i wonder why yt does that
but they let the most obscene comments from newly made ragebait burner accounts get through

[rich palm]

My one piece of criticism about the fight itself is the fireball attacks looks incredibly tight

[fossil token]

the hit boxes are tiny

dw about it