New++ Super Mario Bros

[rich palm]

Give him a charge attack, coward /lh /j

[analog oracle]

outta curiosity are you gonna make it like wonder where the only ones with abilities in the roster are the yoshis and nabbit

[pseudo verge]

This is too much for Nsmb this is for something like Nsmb2 or Nsmbw Maybe.

[stoic lava]

What is free leap

[analog oracle]

not really imo

[rich palm]

Don't question her sorcery

[fossil token]

All of them can use powerup sand have slightly different physics

[analog oracle]

o

-# woah powerup sand!?!?

[fossil token]

Its just the Mario 64ds cast with more yoshi colours

And I do t know if I’ll include waluigi

[rich palm]

I'm moreso wondering if the Yoshies are gonna have any differences

[fossil token]

His body size is to different

[pseudo verge]

Oh

[rich palm]

Tbh I have no idea what you'd do with him

[fossil token]

Well, I was thinking of making their physics math the bro that there colour is

[stoic lava]

Slipery controls

[fossil token]

So green yoshi will have higher jumps like Luigi

[stoic lava]

Big jump

[rich palm]

That honestly sounds pretty cool

[wide furnace]

oh interesting

[fossil token]

anyways i gotta leave one last comment lmao

[fickle tapir]

💀 🙏

[stoic lava]

Your replies are the best

[rich palm]

Bro got roasted like a chicken

[stoic lava]

He is one

Actually no, poor thing

The chicken dont deserve that

[fossil token]

They are just things my gf says to me lmao

[stoic lava]

Ic, yet its pretty funny ngl

[lapis lark]

ragebait used to be believable

[stoic lava]

.

Lets do what ztar, illy, William and a lot of other people said, lets start ignoring him

[vernal thicket]

nifty

tho i do find the two 10 coin brick blocks a bit questionable in a level with a stricter timer like that

[fossil token]

its possible to get both of them

the point is to get the player to die to the timer when going for them

so they are kinda a troll lmao

[pseudo verge]

LMFAO

[lapis lark]

i noticed that in the video and now i want to get both blocks and beat the stage out of spite

my greed will not be my downfall 🗣️

[fossil token]

Are u having fun leaving those comments princess

I’m not stupid

[analog oracle]

wait fr?

[fossil token]

As soon as he leaves a message here he publishes a comment

Also the way he’s talking

It’s him lmao

[pseudo verge]

💀

[stoic lava]

Oh vortex is legend?

[analog oracle]

ain’t no way 😭😭

[stoic lava]

Hope its not 😭

[analog oracle]

how can someone be this obsessed with a community

[pseudo verge]

It's not me 😭

Yeah I don't want to be apart of your drama

[analog oracle]

i hope it’s not :sob.

[fossil token]

If you are going to keep making acounts and joining at least act different

[analog oracle]

this account was made may this year
did he like genuinely buy one or smt 😭

[fossil token]

Yup

He has been buying accounts

[pseudo verge]

Wtf I'm not alt and why would I buy accounts dude

[wraith gust]

Stop pretending, we all know it's you

[fossil token]

Dang ur even misgendering me lmao, more proof by mate, have fun buying a new account

[fickle tapir]

OH NAH 😭 🙏

Im getting angwy

dont make me upload thick of it in 144p

[wraith gust]

Get the fuck outta here bitch

[fossil token]

Thanks ztar

[wraith gust]

Anytime

[fickle tapir]

he didnt even make it past the leaf stage

[stoic lava]

I want thick of it 144p 😭

Send me pls pls pls

[fickle tapir]

1. check ur dms 2. no

[fossil token]

If he’s gonna do it at least act different, he could act like a girl or enby person and change his tone of speech and we wouldn’t catch him

[lapis lark]

❤️

[fickle tapir]

2

[stoic lava]

Dont give him ideas illy please 😭

Ah hes banned anyways

[fickle tapir]

hes not even using [email protected]

[stoic lava]

LMAO

[civic cloud]

Idk why it took me until now to realize why we say enby to refer to non-binary, cuz it sounds like N.B. aka non-binary 🤯

I thought it was just some slang term with mysterious origins

LMAO

[fossil token]

bugs

[wide furnace]

seems like the level loaded gets decided before the level intro screen

[stoic lava]

Ohhhh cool!

[fossil token]

yeah thats whats happening

[wide furnace]

there's a similar problem with the code hack that changes the palette of the score depending on if you play as Mario or Luigi

[fossil token]

yeah probably have to add some code to this function

I woke up like half an hour ago and cant get back to sleep because adhd wanted me to take a look at this

[fickle tapir]

how does the a/b side work

[wraith gust]

The A side levels are the normal levels and the B side levels are alternate versions of all levels which can only be accessible via challenge mode

[fickle tapir]

does the enterance change when its activated

[wraith gust]

Yes

[analog oracle]

yeah its a public code hack

[fickle tapir]

k

[analog oracle]

its fire!

[fathom kraken]

It's gonna have custom MvL levels like New Worlds?

[fickle tapir]

its probably not going to have mvl in general

ndys on

[olive owl]

I am terminally online, y'all should know this :p

[analog oracle]

knowing the shit u have to go through for just basic mvsl modding i cant imagine her having to recode all her actors to support mvsl if they dont 😭

well all is a stretch cause she isnt gonna use everything she made for single player but

u get my point lmao

[fickle tapir]

shell probably use the areas for world a

[rich palm]

It's enough of a technical spectacle as is

[rich palm]

Tbh I assume so to; that and maybe the unused slots?

[fossil token]

How should I reply to this

I don’t really care if people end up stealing levels as people will notice since this hack is pretty big

[fossil token]

^

And challenge mode can be toggled in the level select

[analog oracle]

and evn then theres also some parts that use custom actors which could lead to the levels either being in a buggy state or not even working lol

[stoic lava]

Yeah

[fossil token]

oh yeah every level will crash the game if you dont have code hacks

im thinking of hiding an actor that will crash the game if you dont have the right code hacks in the corrner of each level or behinde smth else lmao

[stoic lava]

Wait so its impossible to people steal stuff from hacks that have custom actors?

[fossil token]

they can remove the custom shit

[stoic lava]

Ah, i was already about to spam checkpoints bellow the levels 😭

[analog oracle]

what do they mean by encrypt the rom in nsmbe tho? (talking about the comment)

[stoic lava]

I think its lzcompress the levels

[fossil token]

the level is loaded as soon as you enter the level...

that might be a problem

might do smth so that if you press a when selecting the level you play the a side

and if you press b when selecting the level you play the b side

[stoic lava]

Yeah its a cool thing

[fossil token]

have no clue how to do that either

[stoic lava]

After i edited the icon part in the code with help of some people once in the level intros to remove the luigi and option to press select it started happening, but is not a problem since it dont have luigi or a/b sites anyways

[fossil token]

hmm, maybe if I reload the level once selection is compleated

[olive owl]

That would be easiest

[fossil token]

yeah

[olive owl]

Just call the challenge mode level loader again

[fossil token]

yeah, probably going to see if I can call this

Im hope that would do the trick

[olive owl]

[fossil token]

umm, I have never done smth like this lmao, time to learn how to do it or mix c++ and asm

oh is this just replacing game::loadlevel?

[olive owl]

Yeah

Specifically a reference to it

Replaces the call at 0x0218e944 in ghidra

[fossil token]

now lets hope this does the job lmao

[analog oracle]

time to leech programming knowledge off of illy's code

[fossil token]

well this did not do the trick

hmm

sadly i dont have time to look into this more now

[fossil token]

well this is responsible for initializing the stage stage

so maybe i need to do the load level after this

so everything actauly loads

nope that wont work

im confussed lmao

[olive owl]

Can you send the intro cutscene code

[fossil token]

code starts on line 725, I have the player code and stage intro code on the same file because why not

here is the place holder graphics file incase you need it

[fickle tapir]

i cant read rn but w 🔥

[fossil token]

my other option is to always set the player spawn entrance to 20 when challenge mode is active, I always use entrance 20 as the spawn

[olive owl]

Is SFX.hpp in the reference or something you made?

[fossil token]

something I made

[fickle tapir]

[fossil token]

its for extended sound effects

[fickle tapir]

i can tell theres a code but not what its for so w

[fossil token]

aka what I use for larry and crap

[olive owl]

Ah ok

I see now

I think

rcast<Game::TaskFunc>(0x02152ec4)(this);

This loads the level stuff

So it overwrites my challenge mode shenanigans

Wait

Maybe not

That just loads the level header stuff

Hmm

[fossil token]

hmm maybe I can do this by making the player just spawn at entrance 20,

the player was still spawned at the normal entrance but the camera is on entrance 20

[olive owl]

That is cursed

If you're just calling Game::loadLevel, it would "desync" from my challenge code

[fossil token]

just trying to overwrite it

// Start stage initialization task
rcastGame::TaskFunc(0x02152ec4)(this);
if(Stage::challengeModeEnabled)
Entrance::setSpawnEntrance(20, 0);

[fickle tapir]

does it control which enterance the player spawns in when the level loads

[olive owl]

Yes

[fickle tapir]

Entrance::setSpawnEntrance(20, 0);

could tell from that\

so he spawns at enterance 20?

[fossil token]

yeah I cant pull it off by overwirting the spawn entrance

[lapis lark]

wario and waluigi!?

[runic storm]

YEAH

[fossil token]

dang, do people really think about fnf mods when they here the term "b side"? I thought people would think of vinyls and cassettes

I guess some people just dont know what those are

[analog oracle]

i think fnf is more popular than celeste (or celeste is more popular, but its not as commonly seen as fnf) so thats prob why lol

[fossil token]

I thought people would think of vinyls and cassettes lmao

[stoic lava]

WAIT I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT

I already noticed its a celeste reference when you did it, since u love celest (i dont blame you, this game is hot)

[rich palm]

I never even thought of FNF or cassettes

I thought it was just a cool term

Meaning "alternate side"

[fathom kraken]

When I saw B-Side I thought about cassetes (I make a diary on cassetes to bury them for the next generations to find, i'll put a noto with the coordinates, sorta like an ARG...

[rich palm]

The thought of every level having a B-side is admittedly intimidating

Bc that's 160+ levels to get through if you want to "true 100%" it

[analog oracle]

i think the bigger intimidation is making the B side levels LMAO

[wide furnace]

lol. i personally didnt think about anything else apart from "oh so the regular level must be the A-Side technically?"

[pale jungle]

Nobody is gonna talk about this XD?!

[fathom kraken]

I want to start a tradition

Yipee

[lapis lark]

interesting

[fathom kraken]

Thx

[runic storm]

Hey, a question about this hack. Are Wario and Waluigi new characters?

[wraith gust]

Yes

[stoic lava]

This hack is dope! Thats all i can say

[lapis lark]

its peak 🔥

[stoic lava]

Its hot 🔥

[wraith gust]

It's blazing 🔥

[stoic lava]

Its stephson 2-18 🔥 ☀️

[fossil token]

:3

gonna try to adapt them to sseqs with a pokemon sound front

[olive owl]

.mid, like the songs
(jkjk)

[fossil token]

[stoic lava]

Ndy shall fall

[olive owl]

JPG shall beg

[stoic lava]

LMFAO

(Risk of manga attack)

[fossil token]

:3

[stoic lava]

😭

[wraith gust]

Yes, do it :3

/j

[stoic lava]

JPG64 did fall LMAO

[fossil token]

:3

[wraith gust]

^w^

[stoic lava]

I was going to post a meme and u ruined it 😭
-# ( At least you didn't removed the beggar role :3 )

[stoic lava]

Btw, what pokemon soundfont you use

Im strugling with making sseqs because of the goddamn soundfonts

[wraith gust]

#1291045471694880821 message

[stoic lava]

Ahhhhhhh it will help me asf

Thanks ztar!

[fossil token]

got bored in class as we were just reviewing basic liner equations before we start calculus so I started working on this

[wraith gust]

Mega Goomba castle B side?

[fossil token]

yup, its another time attack one

im thinking of making shell jumps needed in this level

[civic cloud]

Shell jumps? Like the ones from kaizo levels where you bounce them on a wall with the right timing to bounce on them while they're in mid-air?
Yeah I'm good, but not that good 💀💀💀

[fossil token]

I think this one is a tiny bit to high, I should bring it down by a tile

its possiable

never mind :3

[wraith gust]

Yeah, I'm a skilled player but not that skilled, how dare you Illy? >:3

[fossil token]

you can just use a parashell lmao

or play as yoshi and do once sided wall jumps

I want to make this level end with a red star section were you have to dodge goomba rain

[fossil token]

Going to try finish off this level later tonight

Would do it now but I’m meeting up with my gf

[olive owl]

Meet up and mod with gf

[fossil token]

Hmm nah, we did “insert totally not nsfw thing here”

Anyways gonna work in the hack after I eat

[fossil token]

I lowerd the jump by one block, I could not pull it off consistently

[fossil token]

I think out friend might be trying to make a return :3

im not 100% sure but watch out for this acount

[rich palm]

Definitely that too

[rich palm]

Tbh I've thought of joking about you fumbling in the hack but New++ does change the moveset and you've likely tested it to hell and back

[fossil token]

musicing is hard

[wide furnace]

"lil bro 💀"
why is he talking like a 9 year old SKULLEMOJIIIIIIIII

[wide furnace]

isnt that too much of a high jump without the flying shell? or does the outline block get changed into a red block? or do you actually need the flying shell?

[wraith gust]

Because that's his actual mental age

[stoic lava]

LMFAO

[rich palm]

WHY DID I READ THIS IN MATT ROSE'S VOICE

[rich palm]

I don't wanna know what this originally said

[wide furnace]

because of the "SKULLEMOJIIIIIIIII"

[rich palm]

Yes

[fickle tapir]

what fucking fnf mod 😭 🙏

[lapis lark]

i wonder if a celeste fnf mod exists 😭

[fossil token]

what do yall think so far

[wraith gust]

Epic

[fickle tapir]

w

[fossil token]

:3

[wraith gust]

Goomba stomping?

[fossil token]

the hardest part is that you cant fly down without holding a direction first or else you ground pound

[fossil token]

ok this room is way to hard

ok the level is done

but its really fucking hard

that redstar section with a strict timer is hell and how hard it is to even get to that point

maybe the lava bubbles should not be max speed

[fossil token]

took me 20 min but I finally recorded it

i kinda want to make a timelapse of every faild attempt

[civic cloud]

Not as unfair as I thought it'd be, it's actually pretty fair when the level has an indicator of how to do the shell jump and doesn't have a lot of kaizo stuff with it

[civic cloud]

Ah nice, if that's an intended challenge then I say great job, if not, then what I'd have done is that either R or L is the button to make you start/stop flying

[fossil token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zHlbnpSXOs and thats the level uploaded

[fossil token]

yeah I dont really want them to be kaizo, shell jumps are basic so thats the only reason I included them and it also adds another use for the conveyer belts

whats that kid who just responded trying to say

[vernal thicket]

brutal

nice work

does the blue shell stop when it hits the floor

[civic cloud]

I think I would've preferred having an indicator for the second shell jump, unless the idea was that the first one was a warm-up and I should memorize the tile distance at which I should throw the shell

[fossil token]

you dont need to do a shell jump on the seccond, you can wall jump then ground pound

thats why the bridge is there

[civic cloud]

Oh right that's true

It's probably what I would've done anyway since I try to avoid shell jumps at all costs

I love your levels, it's never unfair even when really difficult, I was thinking you were gonna lose your way when you mentioned a shell jump, but nah it's all good

[fossil token]

I have 10 coins and stuff on the a sides were you need to shell jump to get them

i usauly always want there to be another way though

thats what the para shell is for

[tepid temple]

Fire

[rich palm]

Who hurt you?

I figured you were a masochist, but holy fuck

/lh

[fossil token]

Were should I start…

[wraith gust]

Awesome work, the level looks really challenging and fun, also peak design

The red star section seems extremely difficult

[fossil token]

That section had four nerfs lmao

It’s still to hard but I’m not changing it any more

[wraith gust]

Yeah understandable, in any case it's really good to have really hard levels for those who want a bigger challenge

[stoic lava]

I liked the level

[wraith gust]

This actually motivates me to want to make really hard levels too

[fossil token]

Yeah, the really strict timer makes the level so much t harder lmao, the level is so much easier without the gimmick controller

A lot of obstacles in the level are designed to make you wait

To try and get the players timer as low as possible for the red star section

Oh yeah

I have been thinking about Larry’s tower

And I’m debating whether I make the secret exit path the b side and have it end with the harder Larry fight or add an even harder Larry fight and make a proper b side

[hexed torrent]

My life is complete! Shell jumps in NSMB are real!

[rich palm]

Oh no

/lh

Sorry for my excessive tone indicators-

[fickle tapir]

this seems more fitting for w6 or w7 diffuculty

[wraith gust]

It's the challenge mode, difficulty doesn't matter

[fossil token]

Haven’t had one of these in a while lmao

[fickle tapir]

the bot is yapping 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ ❄️ ❄️ ❄️

[stoic lava]

I mean, its good to spread God's words but that was random asf 😭

[stoic lava]

Imo theres some funny bots as the "dont read my name" or the ones like "i loved that fursuit" commented by a profile with antifurry flag in random ass videos

Yall already saw those verified channels without any videos?

Once i got a bot in a old video putting a porn site link 😭

That was so random

[lapis lark]

i dread the day bots show up in the comments saying

IllyCat REAL fans, are you here? 🍑

🤖🤖🤖

[stoic lava]

I dread the bots 😭

[polar fjord]

saw your vids in my reccomended, good job

atleast I think it was in my reccomended

[bronze shell]

the dumb bot, what does nsmb hacking have to do with religion or celebrating holidays?

least you could do when programing the bots is to target titles with certain keywords.

[fossil token]

[fossil token]

Ehh that’s like the normal difficulty for b sides

The other ones would be just as hard if they had strict timers

[wraith gust]

Make a 150-door maze featuring invisble walls, taking the wrong door will take you to a bloody-painful death and you'll have to restart again, but actually, all the doors take you to the wrong way and you actually have to search for a very hidden trampoline to reach a high platform with a pipe, and after the pipe, you must do some para-shell shenanigans but you actually need to get the para-shell via sub-item box because you're forced to keep the mini mushroom through the entire level, and after that make 160 shell jumps in a row to finally reach the goal

Hardest level ever

[polar fjord]

and the worst level ever

[wraith gust]

[vernal thicket]

make sure to use randomization for the maze wall tiles

[fossil token]

Then add a gravity switch that will link you if you hit it in the wrong place and make wind turn on and off randomly

And have one random section that you can free jump in

[polar fjord]

what does the parashell do

or whatever it’s called

Ztardust called it the parashell so I did too

[wraith gust]

And add a 100 seconds timer and only add 3 clocks in the maze section, you have to beat the level extremely fast or you're done for

Also, make it using a grassland tileset, castle background, underground music and also add lava

[polar fjord]

new++ looks amazing

[lapis lark]

its the blue shell with wings

[polar fjord]

I said what does it do

but I just figured it out

[lapis lark]

it functions like the propeller suit

[lapis lark]

oh

[fossil token]

:3

should have enough to be able to actauly claim it when the next payment period is it looks like

[lapis lark]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-money-cash-money-bed-gif-3558288

[polar fjord]

the new++smb videos are very entertaining imo

[civic cloud]

Fr I always get so hyped when I see one

[fossil token]

I couldn't resist

[stoic lava]

I dont got it as always 😭

[lapis lark]

🪐

[stoic lava]

Fun fact: saturn killed some moons to get a ring :3

[lapis lark]

100% worth it

[stoic lava]

Same for uranus and neptune

[lapis lark]

those rings are cool as hell

[fossil token]

shit auto correct lmao

fucking hate mobile

[stoic lava]

True

[fossil token]

gotta fix that

[lapis lark]

LOL

[fossil token]

better :3

[lapis lark]

:3

[sweet forge]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-shocked-cat-silly-cat-cat-kitten-gif-7414586676150300212

[olive owl]

-# I think that’s starting to cross a line somewhere, Ztar

[fossil token]

I was thinking of the South Park episode “a critter Christmas” when writing that comment lmao

[wraith gust]

I was joking, sorry

[olive owl]

You good

[late scroll]

But now, I made my own short levels this time 👍

[bronze shell]

we do a bit of trolling

[fossil token]

Ima start working on Larry's Tower B side

trying to thinck of that the gimick for this level should be

[fickle tapir]

tightropes

[fossil token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrgMRst9sxo this is the a side

by gimick I mean "whats the point of this remix"

like

is is super hard

is it a time attack

is it low grav

ect

[analog oracle]

time attack looks fitting
you have the danger from the spike balls and koopas on the fences, normally you'd play it slowly to avoid getting hit but w time attack you would wanna play it more recklessly so u can get to the exit in time

[fossil token]

yeah

and im thinking of what other things I could add to the level

[rich palm]

Do B-sides have secret exits?

[rich palm]

Podoboos?

Weird idea, but I was thinking bc of the lava

[fossil token]

thinking of these bowser heads

because they shoot the same fire as larry

[fossil token]

nah, lava is only on the secret exit route

[rich palm]

I see

[rich palm]

Those could be cool

[fossil token]

they wont work, they only shoot left due to homing fire being kinda a shit actor

hmm, maybe path controled amps

[polar fjord]

ngl that joke was the reason I left originally

that’s not really a funny joke

[stoic lava]

What he said

[polar fjord]

not gonna say it

just ask ztardust

[stoic lava]

Nah i think i will hold my curiosity, i always get a trauma when i get curious

[polar fjord]

it was about god, all I’m gonna say

[stoic lava]

Ah

[fossil token]

Yeah I do not have any ideas for this level

[stoic lava]

Yeah thats not a fun thing to make fun of God

[fossil token]

I need to come up with smth unique for it, I exausted all ideas in the a side

[fossil token]

it was a joke about Satanism

[polar fjord]

it was a joke, he wasn’t actually making fun of god

like what he said was a joke, he didn’t actually mean it

sorry if I take a long time to respond

I’m on the school bus

[polar fjord]

and it was very unfunny

[fossil token]

[polar fjord]

because the joke you made was very disrespectful

[stoic lava]

I didn't liked the joke either, but i think you're being kinda annoying with her, she's a cool person (sorry if im being rude)

[polar fjord]

is a me

[analog oracle]

i mean yall should prob drop the convo anyways
idk what the joke was but judging by ppl's reactions i dont think this should go on any longer...

[fossil token]

what joke

[lapis lark]

not me thinking this was a new upload
i cant read 😭

[stoic lava]

It was you or ztar who made the joke? My dumb brain cant recal 😭

[polar fjord]

when will christmas contest be if there is one

[fossil token]

since I couldnt think of a gimick for larrys tower b side ima work on another levels b side

[fossil token]

oh yeah, do any of you have any ideas on how I could make this boss fight harder? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmepxzeu0No&t=163s

felt that this is the only appropriate music for the level

its only 10mb so pretty small

[lapis lark]

maybe adding bullet bills could make it harder

positioning sledge hammer bros to appear when black bowser jr stops to throw a spike ball could be good. they could have a chance to stun you if you dont kill them fast enough

[fossil token]

the stops are random

and they would just get killed by a spkie ball

[lapis lark]

oh

[lapis lark]

true

im gonna see if i can think of anything before my class ends

[fossil token]

im probably going to add a new attack or smth

[lapis lark]

i couldnt think of anything

[bronze shell]

lava bubbles

or falling meteors

[polar fjord]

shell jumps but to the left

[rich palm]

Amps could synergise with the fences

[stoic lava]

Nah that would be impossible

Ah its b side

Yeah do it!!

[fathom kraken]

Maybe you could add that Black Bowser Jr. Can only shoot big Spike Balls only!

[fossil token]

nah, that takes away from the randomness of the fight. The longer jr has been running without throwing a spike ball, the greater the chance of it being a large one is

the idea is that he is kinda charging the spike ball

it could be cool to add mega spike balls which are even bigger though

this level is gonna be pretty evil

I plan on making the timer 999 though

[fathom kraken]

I think that pumpkin enemies really go with the level vive

[stoic lava]

They're shy guys iirc

[fossil token]

They don’t really fit the level

The shy guy code will also overload vram

[stoic lava]

They never overloaded vram in any of my levels tho

And i have a lot of custom model shit

[fossil token]

You have nowhere near as much to worry about as I do lol

[analog oracle]

me when too much coding 😔

[civic cloud]

Black Bowser's Castle, my beloved, it's one of my favorite castle themes 🔥🔥🔥

I always thought it's fitting for airships

[fossil token]

was trying to have all ghost house bosses in one level but boo boss doesnt work in the same area as the rest

I guess I dont need that one though

[fickle tapir]

cant you overflow/underflow

[fossil token]

dont have the free areas to do that

[delicate bramble]

i think you can make this boss fight more harder with new combo of bowser jr

and pls the sound for the walking of jr

jr can trowing an object like a fire hammer or summon a new ghost enemy

a tip: modify the running code of the boss and let it run from slow to fast as mario progress the level

[fossil token]

That’s what it does already

[delicate bramble]

ah

he run a little fast at the beginning

[fossil token]

I love making unfair shit lmao

[fickle tapir]

WHY

😭

nvm i just remembered its 8-t2

[fossil token]

its kinda nice not needing to think of level design and throwing the hardest crap I can come up with at the player

[wraith gust]

Easy

[fickle tapir]

i second that

its 8-t2 BUT ACTUALLY CHALLENGING

[fossil token]

this is the best part of the level

[fickle tapir]

masterpiece best level in nsmb ds hacking history

[fossil token]

well it will be once I code the other two rooms in

this is what those rooms are btw

my laptop is overheating thats why I cut it short

[fickle tapir]

[fossil token]

My laptops fan isnt strong enough to cool it down lmao

well

when its like 32 deg

[fickle tapir]

huh?

[fossil token]

so makes sense

[fickle tapir]

thats really cold

oh

yea

celcius

😭

[stoic lava]

I modified mine some days ago, and it dont overwheat now

The laptop fan i mean

[fossil token]

not everyone uses freedom units lol

[fickle tapir]

ik

i forgot u were australian

[fossil token]

yeah it did end up pretty easy

[fossil token]

This helish level is nearly done

now all I gotta do is the jr chase

thankfully two of these can exsist without crashing the game

[civic cloud]

I didn't know you have a boss boo, that's neat

[fossil token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-djWVESVAzs

its pretty mid

it works though, I need to change the model for the seccond half though

[lapis lark]

"OH MY PCCCC-C-C-CC-! 💥"

[lapis lark]

is the spider an early game boss?

[rich palm]

It couldn't handle peak

[stoic lava]

True

[rich palm]

Also, if there's a boss rush for custom bosses

Will there be one for the Koopalings?

[civic cloud]

Oh wait I've seen this, how did I forget?

It's pretty cool

[polar fjord]

looks horrible

make it worse nice

[stoic lava]

That was kinda rude

[polar fjord]

-# sorry

[lapis lark]

perhaps they meant horrible as in painful and difficult

thats how i interpreted it

[polar fjord]

-# both

[fossil token]

Guys, girls and enbys. Should I add the boomerang flower as a new never before seen powerup in a 2d Mario game that has been in 20 or so nsmbwii hacks that have way to many projectile based powerups/j

[analog oracle]

they said boomerang not boorang

wait no

boorang not boomerang* 😭

tho on a serious note what if there WAS a bio related powerup (not the one from galaxy) 🤔

[fossil token]

Yes, a bio related powerup could be fun, it turns the player into my unit 3-4 bio textbook

[olive owl]

LMAO

[fickle tapir]

big facts

[analog oracle]

I MEANT BOO 😭sob:

omg no wonder jpg hates touch keyboard so much 😭

[austere hill]

Diiiiid Somebody Say Bioflower?

[analog oracle]

bio flower my beloved

[wide furnace]

but... but isnt boorang flower for sakura smb?
-# (based for including enbies in your message btw)

[wide furnace]

I THOUGHT YOU SAID A POWER UP THAT HAD SOMETHING RELATED TO PLANTS 😭

like imagine a bio-flower that can summon flowers and vines, which do... idk

it could throw projectiles that make them grow and create platforms

but that sounds complicated as hell to code

[lapis lark]

BOORANG 🔥✍️

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-blackbeard-writing-taking-notes-writing-gif-17583038544116987898

[stuck grotto]

Why did you take my alternate account I like booeran :(

Anyways I rewatched all the videos on your channel and I am honestly very excited for it 🥲

[fickle tapir]

how many, if any, levels have dorrie

[stoic lava]

1

Its 4-1

Or 4-2

I cant recal rn

But nsmb used it one time

Oh wait

[stuck grotto]

4-1 has dorrie

And the final normal level as well

So it’s 2 levels

[stoic lava]

Yeah, he was talking about n++, im just dumb 😭

[stuck grotto]

Oh

[stoic lava]

Ohh

[stuck grotto]

How many levels of nsmb++ are finished anyways? I assume people work on these hacks world by world

[stoic lava]

Illy actually work on random levels

[analog oracle]

i would work on my hack with random levels but since i wanna make a demo im going world by world, suppose it also lets me organize the progress aswell lmao

[stoic lava]

In ssmb we just do random levels lmao

[wraith gust]

I think I'm the only person here who makes levels in sequential order

[analog oracle]

-# excuse me i just stated above i do it aswell

[onyx lantern]

me still waiting on whoever is gonna program a pow block-

[fickle tapir]

nuh uh

wait yea we need a pow block

[civic cloud]

We need a POW flower, makes you shoot POW blocks by pressing the run/projectile button

Anyway, for the boomerang flower, why not? If it suits your level design and you can picture it working nicely in some of your levels, why not? I'm saying this assuming such a powerup is easy to code due to the projectile's code existing and lots of people having done it in their mods

[tepid temple]

i do i do 🙋

did

[civic cloud]

Yeah, my first SMM2 level was a Koopaling boss rush for my world 8

[rich palm]

I make them in random-ass order

Have since my Maker days

When I get inspo for a level, I make it

[wide furnace]

depends what kind of POW block. the red ones or the blue ones? either way you can still somewhat recreate both of them

[rich palm]

I imagine blue could borrow code from the Mega Ground Pound?

Idk I can't code

[wide furnace]

maybe

tho i was thinking about making coins disappear and spawning dropped coins instead

[fossil token]

lil sneak peak of the 8- B side jr chase

[fossil token]

I did it but only with infinite reserve shells, this is so fucking hard

there is so much going on in this chase

ima try to record this level now, ill probs have to use save states for the chase

my laptops to hot for my gpu to record this now

ima do it soon

[fossil token]

there is a few non binary people, may as well address them

anyways, I be uploading the level

had to use save states and infinte shells as the level is way way to hard for me to pull of

it ends up being like 6.5 min long

[wide furnace]

i said it was based (=good). and i'm one too

[wide furnace]

"You need to verify this level in order to upload it"

[lapis lark]

i cant wait to attempt a no damage run when this drops

[fossil token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIeJUezffb0

[rich palm]

You chose sadomasochism again, I see

[fossil token]

~~that’s what a girlfriend is for ~~

/j

[wide furnace]

wow that's difficult... especially the second half of Jr's fight

[pale jungle]

Well, with parashells it doesn't look too dificult

[wide furnace]

3 huge rolling spiky balls + bowser jr chasing you very quickly

[fossil token]

That was bad luck tbh, I need to change some physics with those spike balls so that doesn’t happen

[wide furnace]

okay

[fossil token]

And we don’t talk about the two empty boss rooms lmao, that’s gonna make the level even harder

[wide furnace]

oh so they are meant to be boss rooms

[olive owl]

I apologize for making #1302532876650287106

You’re L A M E for using cheats and save states

Ban

[wide furnace]

cheats???

where did you see cheats?

[olive owl]

Infinite reserve shells

[fossil token]

Yeah lmao, it possible but my laptop doesn’t hold up in a 33 deg c room,

You can see it struggling by all the slow down in the vid

Look how I’m cooling down my laptop rn lmao

[wide furnace]

oh didn't see that

[rich palm]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-burn-tbh-fire-gif-1464924163788048068

POV: Illy's laptop

[fossil token]

literally, after that vid I booted into bios to check the cpu temp and it was 115 deg c lmao

[wide furnace]

lmfaoo

and it didn't crash somehow?

[fossil token]

this laptop is partially overclocked lmao

[wraith gust]

Nah, tf, that Bowser Jr. fight is so chaotic, lmao

Seems possible, but really hard due to the fact that Bowser Jr. throws iron balls randomly and at different speeds

[fossil token]

yeah, the main problem is that the balls at the end that are ment to be rolling left are rolling to the right due to the speed modifier from jr being higher then the speed they are set to

when I fix that it will be fine

it will also stop the balls bulding up at the switch

[fossil token]

Im surprised nobody has said anything about how there is no boss fight music for the two mini bosses

must seam normal then how black bowsers castle's theme continues to play during the fights

[wraith gust]

I honestly didn't pay much attention to that, I watched the video without audio because I have the laptop with the volume at minimum

[rich palm]

I like that touch

Does the Broozer have a name btw

I just called it "Boss Broozer"

[fossil token]

nope, its the only boos without a name

the spider is called scuttlebuddy for some reason

no clue why I named it that

[olive owl]

Scuttle Buddy 😌

[olive owl]

I noticed but it didn’t seem "wrong" either

Since boss rush

[stuck grotto]

I just watched the vid and I kept thinking the lagging was normal honestly

I think the music choice you had for it was good and I also like that the level is actually hard lol

Too many easy levels from creators nowadays I need a challenge 🥲🥲

[bronze shell]

ain't no way I'm completing this without rage quiting

[stuck grotto]

I wanna do it without taking damage now once the hack is out

[olive owl]

React with if Illy should release this one level early

-# Guys y'all were supposed to react I wanna play it 😭

[bronze shell]

don't be impatient bro

[olive owl]

It's more about wanting to flex at being good at Mario than being impatient

[fossil token]

doing it now, give me a few min

gotta nuke the new reserve system though first so yall dont get infinte reserve powerups if mario is in the small state when the powerup is used

[stuck grotto]

Can I get the infinite shell power ups (I can beat the game very fast)

I don’t mind waiting cause it gives me time to check out other hacks

[fossil token]

@olive owl here u go. the a side is the level the player spawns in and the b side is through the door at the start

the level has been put in 1-1

we should make the next contest who can get the best time on this level

[olive owl]

Lmao

[olive owl]

Thanks!!!

[onyx lantern]

Bet >:]

[stuck grotto]

I would be down idk how to play these levels on pc

[wide furnace]

yea i had the same feeling

[tepid temple]

Thanks Illy, currently reverse engineering the patched rom to steal all your code 😈

New+++ coming soon 😈

[analog oracle]

new--

[olive owl]

New #

[analog oracle]

also holy, 15mb xdelta 😭

how big is the rom lol

[olive owl]

I bet most of that is the music lmao

[wraith gust]

Thank you Illy, now I will use this hack as a base for mine and release a pre-patched version of it for the para Android kids

I'll try the level later and possibly, record a vid

[analog oracle]

aw man

[wraith gust]

I'm getting the same error too

Did you use a clean rom for the patch Illy?

[tepid temple]

I just tried and it worked for me

make sure your "clean rom" is actually clean

[wraith gust]

How so? It's the same rom I've been using all this time, that rom is practically untouched

[stoic lava]

💀

[analog oracle]

maybe its delta? (version i mean)

i mean i was using the gui
will did u use the cmd one?

[tepid temple]

which xdelta patcher did you use

[stoic lava]

It gives me a error tô patch too

[tepid temple]

i used this

[stoic lava]

Send it

[analog oracle]

ask @ztar cause its the one he puts in his hacks

[analog oracle]

oh could u send that one

[stoic lava]

It seens better than xdeltaui holy

[wraith gust]

Ok, it just worked for me, I used NSMBe's built in xdelta patcher

[analog oracle]

oh what 😭😭

[stoic lava]

WILL SMITH THE GOAT!!!!!

[wraith gust]

Isn't that the patcher that comes in the NSMBe folder?

[tepid temple]

maybe? I forget where I got it

[analog oracle]

worked now

new++ preview....

[wraith gust]

Imma give it a try now

[analog oracle]

now the game hangs in both desmume (jit) and melonds 🥹

actually ima give it a bit, maybe its just loading (or not)

[fossil token]

It should work on melon and desume

I have t testers on real hardware in a while though

[wraith gust]

It doesn't load for me either

[analog oracle]

my only guess is stuff aint compressed in the rom file browser or smt

[fossil token]

I’ll take a look at it later, it’s 3am for me and I just woke up

I thought I cleaned everything before I built the rom, maybe I forgot smth. I didn’t test the delta patch either though, I just generated it and sent it

[wraith gust]

This reminds me of how my hack was crashing on a specific level, and I figured out it was because the tileset from that level was decompressed I don't even remember decompressing it at any point

[fossil token]

Wait, is it crashing on The title screen?

[analog oracle]

doesnt boot

[fossil token]

Alright

dang ill try making the patch with not nsmbe's zdelta patcher

my adhd kicked in and isnt letting me sleep until I fix this lmao

this one patches properly for me

sending it now

created it using the patcher will sent

[wraith gust]

"PlsWork" lmfao

[analog oracle]

110 MBS HOLY

[fossil token]

well tell me if this one works

[wraith gust]

I will, it just took a lot to download because of my dogshit Wi-Fi, gonna patch it rn

[analog oracle]

t works now

gg!

[analog oracle]

also same lmao

ok nvm

it boots but hangs after the boot screen

😭

[wraith gust]

Ditto

[fossil token]

oh yeah, be fast on the title screen

[wraith gust]

Wait, works for me now

[fossil token]

it crashes due to smth with the player code

but that wont be a problem when I get around to doing the custom title screen

[analog oracle]

fast forward u mean?

oh it works now

nvm

[fossil token]

no, you have five secconds until the top screen goes black and the game freezes

[analog oracle]

had to use desmume lol

i see

[fossil token]

it should also work on melon

well, havent tested on melon in a week

[wraith gust]

It works flawlessly for me

Also Illy, do you mind if I upload a video to my secondary channel of this level after I finish it?

[fossil token]

sure

which level lmao

[wraith gust]

Levle

[analog oracle]

i gameover'd already

but this is really fun lmao

[fossil token]

yeah, both of those levels are not easy

[wraith gust]

Yeah, I'm dying a lot here, but it's fun

Wait, did you include two levels in the patch?

[fossil token]

the a side and b side

go through the door at the start for the b side

[wraith gust]

Ah ok, I thought the door was for skipping to the end of the level or a room full of powerups

[fossil token]

then place a shit tone of one up blocks or 100 coins

[wraith gust]

Nah, I'm not a cheater

I was about to beat Bowser Jr. and I died literally in front of the switch 😭

[stuck grotto]

How do you play this on desmume?

[olive owl]

It crashes on Melon

[wraith gust]

I finally managed to beat the Bowser Jr. fight after ten thousand attempts, I was trying the B side but the game crashes after you enter the green pipe at the end

[olive owl]

Same

Except my game crashes when you enter the pipe at the end of the airship section

[wide furnace]

15mb is not a lot
-# especially when NSMB TLS is over 180mb

[wide furnace]

no way you leaked it 😭

[stuck grotto]

PlsWork

[tepid temple]

crashes on real hardware

[olive owl]

Checks out if it crashes on Melon

[fickle tapir]

real hardware should have close to the same power as jit desmume

[olive owl]

Melon is more accurate than Desmume

[tepid temple]

playing this felt very surreal lol

ngl I used savestates

[wraith gust]

I didn't 😎

Beating Bowser Jr. took me a trillion attempts tho

[analog oracle]

finished the a side, gonna try b side in a bit

honestly i wasnt using savestates but on my last attempt i was gonna use them but i never died and beat it 😭

[fossil token]

yeah, haven't tested it in a week

I need to do it again soon and find what is crashing it

[fossil token]

Have fun with that lmao

[fossil token]

Well, I got work in two hours

Ima either going to start working on another level tonight

start working on debuging the rom and tracing down some crashes

or making a koopaling

oh yeah, did anyone try playing as the yoshis?

they have infinte flutter jumps for testing and it can be really fun to mess around with

[stoic lava]

I didn't played yet because it crashes :/

[fossil token]

what emulator?

[stoic lava]

Drastic

[fossil token]

ok

should also test on that

[stoic lava]

Thats a bulshit when it comes out about custom stuff (the first versions of newer ds didn't worked there too) but unfortunately my phone dont run melon ds so i cant use it

[fossil token]

ill need to set up an android emulator or smth so I can try it

[stoic lava]

Drastic is free now so i think its the best one (beside melon ds) to test it

[fossil token]

I also feel really motivated to polish some more code and add it to my github

|| Im getting some help with some legal stuff against my parents and im really happy and have a lot of motivation to work on this hack||

[wraith gust]

Hope things keep getting better for ya

[stoic lava]

I wish the best of luck for you 💚

[wraith gust]

I'm gonna start recording it, or maybe later, I'll send the video here once I'm done

[fossil token]

Have fun :3

[wraith gust]

I'm surely gonna have it ^w^

Considering how shitty the lag is whenever I record a video, it might either be easier or more painful

[wraith gust]

I already recorded the video, surprisingly, I managed to beat the level in the fucking first try

Gonna send it here later

I personally felt like the B side of the level was easier than the A side (excluding the Bowser Jr. Fight)

[stuck grotto]

I asked before but how does one try to play it on desmume?

Sorry if that’s a dumb question

[wraith gust]

After you patched the hack, open the DeSmuME and click "Open rom" and select the hack

[stuck grotto]

Patch the hack?

Not too familiar with it but I can look in a specific channel

[wraith gust]

https://nsmbhd.net/thread/2382-how-to-import-export-xdelta-patches/

For the patch Illy made you need to use the patcher Will sent

[stuck grotto]

Gotcha

[wraith gust]

^ this one

[fossil token]

Yeah, there is still two boss fights which are not coded in lmao

[fossil token]

Dang, it usually takes me a few try’s to even do the a side

Impressive as hell

[wraith gust]

https://youtu.be/58jyOyh26Jk

[stuck grotto]

Okay downloaded it

Gonna game so hard

[fossil token]

Do the mini bosses not work or smth?

[wraith gust]

The game stays on a black screen after you enter the green pipe at the end of the B side

At least for me

[civic cloud]

I thought you just ended the video there cuz beating side B's boss is just hard asf 💀💀💀

[stuck grotto]

Forgot to mention but I was able to beat A side and B side

Didn’t take many attempts aside from a few, honestly playing it felt so fun

B side is so hard and I partially wish the entire game was like that

[civic cloud]

B side looked like hell (the boss)

[stuck grotto]

B side wasn’t that bad but it did take me a few tries

Dunno if I’m cracked at Mario or a masochist cause after I beat it I just thought “wow what if the entire game was so hard just for me”

[wraith gust]

Seems like I'll have to re-record the video again if Illy fixes this, I feel like I haven't suffered enough 😭

[fossil token]

I’ll look into it after work

Have you tried setting the spawn entrance to the spider room or smth?

Because it might be a bug with zooming out or smth

Or I may of forgot to add the model to the game lol

[fossil token]

hmm yeah the screen does black out when the spider fight is entered

problem found and fixed

replace this folder

the warp box graphic is crashing the game

I forgot to update the files in that folder when I made the patch

have fun rerecording ztar :3

boom, damage less run

the route for this is so fucking hard, especially this last jump, I had to do a perfect tripple jump to land between the balls

[lapis lark]

we wish u the best

[olive owl]

Doesn’t work for me

[fossil token]

whats the problem?

does it crash when entering the spider room still?

[olive owl]

Hangs after the Nintendo Logo

[fossil token]

on melon or desmume?

[olive owl]

Melon

Could you maybe made a .xdelta of the working version? (where the folder is already replaced)

Could be Ndy skill issue lol

[fossil token]

alright, that build doesnt work on melon. Ima try and hunt down whats causing it but for now it will work on desmume

once I find it ill make another xdelta

[olive owl]

Ok

So uh

Do not groundpound the scuddle buddy LMAO

[fossil token]

remembered the problem, I got it working

[olive owl]

[fossil token]

it was the player/level intro code

I just removed it, ill make a new patch now

[olive owl]

[fossil token]

this works on melon for me

waiting for it to send...

[olive owl]

In 3

2

1

explosion.jpeg

[olive owl]

I hate nwav I hate nwav

[fossil token]

lmao

[wraith gust]

You know what? I'll delete the video I just sent and re-record it, I will surely have fun

[olive owl]

I think it's downloading but backwards

BUT ACTUALLY 😭

Well you know what they say, a watched file never downloads

[fossil token]

ill try and speedrun makeing one without nwavs and then you can import the nwavs from the other rom

[olive owl]

Based

Up to 3hrs now

[delicate bramble]

for 100 mb?

try to use a phone hotspot

[olive owl]

Train wifi moment

Ooo you might be onto something

Let me see how much data I have left

[wraith gust]

Ndy this might be skill issue from you, it's downloading fine for me

[olive owl]

Kills you

Actually I have a fate worse than death for you

@wraith gust

[wraith gust]

🫵

[olive owl]

Instant karma

I only have 44MB left on my data plan

[fossil token]

alright, cleared the nwavs

ill make a fresh one without them now

[olive owl]

[delicate bramble]

wow

[olive owl]

Yeah, travel moment lol

Saved money by only buying 1GB for the first part of the trip

[delicate bramble]

how many gigabytes do you have in total in the plan

[olive owl]

1GB

[delicate bramble]

really?

[olive owl]

Yeah. Got a $5 esim for data only

On vacation, so I don’t need that much data

[delicate bramble]

italy is much better

10 euros

350 GB

[delicate bramble]

aa

[fossil token]

there u go

[olive owl]

[fossil token]

got stuck because the rom was staying at 150mb but efe came in clutch

only thing about the player code not being in the rom is that mario and luigi have eachothers textures

its smth I did for fun because I could

[olive owl]

Much better lol

[wraith gust]

And that's why NWAV shit and SSEQ based /j

[olive owl]

I mean

You're not wrong :p

[wraith gust]

Also, why's Mario wearing Luigi's clothes? Maluigi real 2024?!?!?!?!??!!

[olive owl]

See 6 messages above your's

[wraith gust]

I need to read

[olive owl]

Yes

[wraith gust]

Mb, I literally just woke up and it's 5:31 a.m. for me

[olive owl]

Ztar has gone woke????

😱

[fossil token]

oh no, the left is infecting ztar

its already to late for me, dont let it effect him

[olive owl]

I am going to scream

Ok it let me resume the download

We so back

Ok so where are the NVAWs?

Ok I'll assume the folder filled with nwavs :p

It works lets go

Thanks Illy

I love knowing how to mod this game LOL

Ndy in New++ (real)

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if you send the models I can make it a playable character

[olive owl]

LMAO

Sure

[wraith gust]

LOL

This fight is so easy, I can kill Bowser Jr. with a groundpound

[olive owl]

Oh and here's the epic life icon Ztar imported for me

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I thought I made him immune to groundponds lmao

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I guess I never hit the right spot lol

its a really easy fix

so doesnt matter to much

[olive owl]

Told myself I'm not gonna use save states, but if I die to that sumo bro again I'm gonna scream

So I made a save state at the pipe :p

Go there no hit so I earned it

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the fire bro, followed by double sumo bro, brozer and big spikeball is hard lmao

[olive owl]

The game crashed after entering the second door

I did scuttle buddy and brozer no hit tho 😎

[fossil token]

hmm weird, that should take you to the alt jr chase

try setting up a warp there from the first view

[fossil token]

well, scuttle body has an attack which I havent enables yet, thats what these pipes are for

and the broozer, I need to come up with smth to make it harder

[rich palm]

WHY IS MARIO GREEN

[olive owl]

Crashes

Melon doesn’t like the chase ig

[fossil token]

I set a warp to the b side fight and it worked

melon btw

[wraith gust]

Weird, it doesn't crash for me

MelonDS moment

[fossil token]

nope, the doors work

weird

[olive owl]

I am cursed to never play this

[wraith gust]

You're cursed to switch to DeSmuME

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Have fun with that lmao, the b side jr chase is hell

[wraith gust]

I gave up, I'll keep trying later, this level is frustrating, this is the karma I deserve for thinking it was easier than it seemed :E

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It took me hours to do the b side damage less lmao

You need to remember where the spike balls are in the jr chase so you can react when jr throws them

That’s the main difference between the two chases

[wraith gust]

I have to react to a ton of stuff, Jr's iron balls, Broozers, flamethrowers, Fire/Hammer/Boomerang/Summo bros, you gotta have nerves of steel to beat that fight

@Ndy update your code so that you can add checkpoints to challenge mode levels :(

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The bad parts are the horizontal fire bars and the ending

[fossil token]

You can already

I chose not too

[wraith gust]

😔

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Add a door that takes the player to the start of the jr chase and then joint the footage from the pre jr chase with the successful jr chase run

That’s what I would do