New++ Super Mario Bros

[stoic lava]

999% true

(1% fake)

Also if we're going to shitpost lets move to another chat

Yo thats fire

[fossil token]

Bro, u haven't seen what fuzzy is cooking, hes working on some really cool stuff for lsmb, I have only seen snippets of code

[stoic lava]

I liked the "apocaliptical" feeling this gives

[stoic lava]

I make those jokes, but im really hyped for his mod ngl

[near aurora]

Lazy SMB

[stoic lava]

Hope it have more than 8 levels only

[stoic lava]

Real

Shitty SMB
Lazy SMB
Asm SMB
C++ SMB

Fire mods 🔥 🔥 🔥

[fossil token]

then C++ SMB

[stoic lava]

NO WAYYY TRUE

C++ smb gets the prize for best mod of the century

I hope for illy release New++ smb sequel, the Python Smb

[fossil token]

If I was to make a seqaul, it would be a hack were you play as bowser jr

[stoic lava]

That would be cool asf tbh

My mod would probably have a sakura luigi ds, that would be like a nslu

[wraith gust]

If I ever make a sequel to my hack, I'll make it in DS style so Fuzzy and the Evo people can die happy, zero ported graphics, with completely original and never implemented ideas, with shittons of songs with NWAV so the rom will be 28042830803 MB in filesize, and with code hacks, a bunch of code hacks, because the more code hacks you have, the cooler your hack is

[stoic lava]

My hack have a lot of code hacks? 😭

I only have 108 😭

[near aurora]

No more Sakura just stop🛑

[stoic lava]

And i need 19093923 more only 😭
(No joke, i only need 4/5 more at least, at this point)

[stoic lava]

And it will have nsmb2 port too

But it will be later

Really later

No suicide jokes

Please

Thanks

For deletin it

[near aurora]

Alright

[stoic lava]

Btw, lets go #general because theres something funny to show

[fossil token]

You don’t count code hacks by the amount you have in your source folder

I got multiple files with 1000+ lines of code

[stoic lava]

Wow

[fossil token]

Lucky, If I saw that I probably would of timed u out tbh

[stoic lava]

But in files i only have 67 codes, but codes in general i have more than 108

[near aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-issues-gif-13031152103567454559

Sorry for the ping again

[stoic lava]

Ur not wrong tho

[wraith gust]

Looks good so far

[fossil token]

Knocked out bowser jr at the start of the level

[wide furnace]

oh bowser jr banners

[wide furnace]

oh nice! just one thing tho: lower the warp entrance a bit in the first view

[quaint gorge]

nice tileset, tho I would work on the red tint of the pillar

also did you use nitropaint to import it?

[fossil token]

I used nsmbe

[quaint gorge]

use Nitropaint

convert it

then save it as png

and then import to NSMBe

[fossil token]

ok ill try it

[quaint gorge]

this will make it keep a lot of details

[fossil token]

what do I need to convert it to?

[quaint gorge]

choose the format that nitropaint sets for you

if it doesn't look decent, go one down

allowing you more colors

[fossil token]

I cant really see a diffrnce tbh

also the top background is a placeholder that I made in like 10 min

[quaint gorge]

hmm, if you import the tileset without nitropaing in NSMBe, do you see a difference between pre-import and post-import?

try choosing a better format

when I look at your tileset it looks more smooth but in game a lil noisy

ofc if you take a closer look

[fossil token]

thats intentional, I was originally going to make it be a lot more noisy

[quaint gorge]

I mean you have smooth and noisy parts in your tileset right?

the smooth ones look now noisy too

[stoic lava]

HOLY FUCK ITS NOT SSMB CHANEL

Sorry lmfao

[stoic lava]

-# (I sent a update here)

[fossil token]

Im gonna try and grind some w9 code after school today

because I probably wont do any on Saturday because Ill be playing splatoon 3's final splatfest and on sunday I have work

[wide furnace]

okay, gl

[karmic crest]

Back how’s the process bro

[stoic lava]

She did a lot of progress in w9 things

[fossil token]

this looks normal :3

[fickle tapir]

is this easy (obviously not EASY easy) for someone to do or is it hard

[fossil token]

its pretty fucking hard

the world map scene is complete ass and a lot of what I need to change hasn't been reversed

[vernal thicket]

i like the route where you can just chose to do two optional bonus levels that dont help you progress at all

[olive owl]

LMAO

[fossil token]

Im working on extending the table for the subScreen maps

I just am struggling to use the function that checks if w8- has beet beaten to load the alternate w8 map

im thinking of nuking that and making the whole w8 map visible from the start

[olive owl]

Maybe you could use some logic from how the blue toad house works?

It only shows up after you beat 8-

[fossil token]

Im waiting for somebody to help me with using rcast, the function basically does that though

[fossil token]

thats the subscreen path for w9 done

well nrealy done, i gotta fix the thing for w8 part 2

[wide furnace]

oh nice!

just a question, does the game crash when you go to world 9?

[fossil token]

it doesnt crash, a lot of things just dont work due to it not being finished

[wide furnace]

okay

[fossil token]

I wrote the code for the world map camera boundaries

[wide furnace]

oh nice! does it only keep the camera static or can you set proper boundaries that are smaller/larger than in the original game?

[fossil token]

yeah, you can set the boundaries to whatever the heck you want

[wide furnace]

nice

i think JPG64 might need this for some of his worldmaps, some are smaller than in the base game, and so scrolling the camera to the right only shows water

[stoic lava]

Yeah

The world 4 map is one of those

[wide furnace]

she released it in #1207793065524199455

[stoic lava]

YES!!!!

[fickle tapir]

How did you increase the speed up speed

[fossil token]

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-triple-baka-braincells-gif-17994396760098916322

This is what’s going through my mind when I’m working on new++

[fossil token]

A code hack

[wide furnace]

each in their own world

[stoic lava]

Me:

-# aka me at anytime of the day, no matter what I'm doing

[fossil token]

I’m going through my YouTube comments and all the support makes me so passionate about this hack

The only problem is that the expiration is that it’s gonna be better than newer

[stoic lava]

But its already better than newer

[stoic lava]

Imo its one of the best nsmbds hacks ever made

[fickle tapir]

how did you add better sounding music to the hack?

like the ghost house boss themes

[stoic lava]

Its with nwav

[wide furnace]

oh thats nice to hear

[fickle tapir]

oh

[wide furnace]

yea :/

[fickle tapir]

w

[stoic lava]

Yeah 🙂

[fickle tapir]

it is the first hack with world 9, sorry, the number 8

[fickle tapir]

does it allow sseqs still

[stoic lava]

Yeah

[fickle tapir]

alr

[stoic lava]

But makes your rom like....

-# (The rom size i mean)

[fossil token]

I mainly use sseqs

Besides boss themes

Red star and snow theme

[fickle tapir]

nvm then what 😭

im gonna wait to get a 2tb ssd

cause i only have 200gb rn

[stoic lava]

My rom is almost newer wii da edition 😭

[fickle tapir]

im sorry newer wii ds exists?

[stoic lava]

Because its so big

[fickle tapir]

*also im moving to #nsmb-chat

[stoic lava]

Yeah, newer ds, but my rom is like newer wii in one way: its bigger than the og game

[stoic lava]

Yo true

[fossil token]

For example, this castle theme uses a nsmbwii castle midi and the Pokémon hgss sound front

[wide furnace]

how did you reach this much already 😭

[fickle tapir]

new world, nwav, and code hacks prob

[fossil token]

He doesn’t compress the songs enough

[wide furnace]

only nwav

but that's too much 😭

[stoic lava]

Never use nwav without compression 😭

[fossil token]

The thing is you won’t even be able to tell the difference on a ds since the speakers are shit

[stoic lava]

I just use it becsuse idk how to make sseqs

[fickle tapir]

i unironically use headphones on my n3ds

so it sounds better

[wide furnace]

you could at least split the song when the loop happens, so the loop doesn't get included twice

[stoic lava]

I do it in my newer songs

But on the older songs... 😭

[wide furnace]

usually, mario soundtracks uploaded, fade out after the 2nd loop

[wide furnace]

your rom is gonna explode

[stoic lava]

"Guys, sakura smb ds released!!!!!"

"8GB? WHAT THE FU-"

[wide furnace]

lmao

[fickle tapir]

you think thats bad?

imagine newer wii dx

[stoic lava]

Nah newer dx is a myth

It dont really exists

[fickle tapir]

they said the same about gta6

[wide furnace]

except that sakura smb is a ds game, the original ds game is only 32mb (nsmbwii is about 300mb iirc)

[stoic lava]

We got gta 6 before newer dx 😭

[fickle tapir]

my wii rom was 3 gb what 😭

[stoic lava]

Its a iso

[fickle tapir]

no wbfs

[stoic lava]

A wbfs is 300mb

[wide furnace]

the compressed iso i think

or smth

[stoic lava]

WHAT? 😭

[fickle tapir]

i probably got a hacked rom or smth 💀

i can check

[stoic lava]

Its a mod maybe

Or a uncompressed wbfs

[fickle tapir]

oh nvm

its 352mb

and my newerwii wbfs is 876 WTH 😭

if thats bad then when will newer u release (ik its cancelled)

[wide furnace]

are you two conscious that you're still in #1142029407729483846 ?

[fickle tapir]

si

but dw im not gonna talk about it here anymore

[fossil token]

I made a lot of progress on new++ yesterday

I was busy af so I couldnt do much

and the w9 map takes a shit tone of time because the world structure is mostly undocumented

[wide furnace]

my dumbass brain at night was about to say "is this (the structure) a gd reference?"

seems complicated tho, gl

[stoic lava]

Lol

[fossil token]

9-1 is a level about chaning long jumps and wall jups

the idea of w9 is that it strays away from the traditonal level structure into a more abstract nature

[wide furnace]

oh interesting

[rapid bramble]

celeste ahh

[fossil token]

I may or may not have added fancy moves such as doing mid air twirls while long jumping

[fossil token]

im taking a lil bit of inspiration from farewell

[wide furnace]

Moveset++ Super Mario Bros

honestly i think that adding more to the moveset is interesting. i always wanted to see a 2d mario game with a 3d mario moveset (like it was originally planned for nsmb)

[fickle tapir]

how did you add more levels? theres not an option for it as far as i know (or is it just the w6 cannon rn)

[wide furnace]

custom code

[fossil token]

next step is to rewrite every world maps paths and nodes and crap into my own extended table :c

[tepid temple]

wait I think I can automate it, don't waste your time yet

[fossil token]

Im gonna do it in like six hours after school

[stoic lava]

Use goombatlas

And copy the code for it

[fickle tapir]

its 8:03pm 😭 (ik ur in a different timezone)

also if i remember right theres a w17 so theres a potential for 10 worlds

[stoic lava]

Here its 21:10

[fickle tapir]

Canada?

[stoic lava]

Nop

[fickle tapir]

Carribean?

[wraith gust]

Brazil

[fickle tapir]

oh yea its in his bio

im stupid

[fossil token]

[fossil token]

that would be a million times harder

[stoic lava]

I mean, just for getting the nodes cordinates

It would already help i think

[fossil token]

I already have arrays with all the data

[near aurora]

💀

Is she serious

[fossil token]

[fossil token]

What do u mean by that?

[wraith gust]

These guys don't know what timezones are, smh

[near aurora]

Sorry

[fossil token]

serious about what?

[near aurora]

I know

[near aurora]

is it dark outside for you🤔

[fossil token]

no, its 10.50 am

its the morning

[near aurora]

It's 8:52pm for me

[wraith gust]

Same for me

[stoic lava]

Here its 10 pm

[fossil token]

[near aurora]

^

[fossil token]

Where did you get that from? I will be able to add however many worlds I want if I pull this off

[near aurora]

wait you can actually add more worlds

[fossil token]

more progress

[wide furnace]

nice

[cloud pilot]

Cutscene after entering a level?

[stoic lava]

Its the level intros

[cloud pilot]

Oh

Cool

[fickle tapir]

how did you add a ghost house?

[stoic lava]

Changing the model

[fossil token]

im kinda at a road block with w9

i dont know what else I need to do to get it working

the wm scene is so fragile

[stoic lava]

You could try drawing a model on the w9 scene

I think

[fossil token]

there is already a model that gets drawn

the thing is

if one thing is off

the whole top screen just goes black

[stoic lava]

I see

Its kinda a awlful scene

Idk if its possible, but you could try rewrithing the world map scene?

It could already help a lot i think

If i knew code i would rewrite the whole world map scene and make it something like the nsmbu maps (everything conected)

[fossil token]

hmmm

[stoic lava]

Because i hate the nsmbw or ds map system from the bottom of my soul lol

They're so bad programmed

[fossil token]

wait, i still need to check the wm player, enimies and camera

I should do that next

[stoic lava]

The enemies is for the block and hammer bro right?

Idk if bowser jr and peach counts too

They arent the player tho

[fossil token]

thats already been changed

the whole wm struct thing is done

Will smith did it for me

#include "nsmb.hpp"

ncp_over(0x020E79C4,8)
static const WorldmapScene::WorldStruct newWorldStructs[8] = {
{
    rcast<WorldmapScene::NodeStruct*>(0x20e74d4),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::PathStruct*>(0x20e6a78),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::EntitySpawnSettings*>(0x20e5a60),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapPointStruct*>(0x20e81f4),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6924),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e65f4),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e70dc),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::WMCharacterNode**>(0x20e5f5c),
    0x13,
    0x17,
    0x0,
    0x0,
}, {
    rcast<WorldmapScene::NodeStruct*>(0x20e75b8),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::PathStruct*>(0x20e6cb0),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::EntitySpawnSettings*>(0x20e5a54),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapPointStruct*>(0x20e83bc),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6974),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6624),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6ff4),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::WMCharacterNode**>(0x20e5f20),
    0x14,
    0x18,
    0x0,
    0x0,
}, {
    rcast<WorldmapScene::NodeStruct*>(0x20e715c),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::PathStruct*>(0x20e6ad4),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::EntitySpawnSettings*>(0x20e5a5c),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapPointStruct*>(0x20e7b04),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6654),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6534),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6794),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::WMCharacterNode**>(0x20e5d58),
    0x12,
    0x17,
    0x0,
    0x0,
}, {
    rcast<WorldmapScene::NodeStruct*>(0x20e730c),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::PathStruct*>(0x20e6a1c),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::EntitySpawnSettings*>(0x20e5a58),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapPointStruct*>(0x20e7e64),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6b30),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6594),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6f14),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::WMCharacterNode**>(0x20e5dd0),
    0x13,
    0x17,
    0x0,
    0x0,
}, {
    rcast<WorldmapScene::NodeStruct*>(0x20e78a4),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::PathStruct*>(0x20e7064),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::EntitySpawnSettings*>(0x20e5a44),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapPointStruct*>(0x20e8994),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6b90),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e65c4),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6834),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::WMCharacterNode**>(0x20e5e6c),
    0x18,
    0x1e,
    0x0,
    0x0,
}, {
    rcast<WorldmapScene::NodeStruct*>(0x20e76a8),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::PathStruct*>(0x20e6dd0),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::EntitySpawnSettings*>(0x20e5a48),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapPointStruct*>(0x20e859c),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6c50),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6754),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6f84),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::WMCharacterNode**>(0x20e635c),
    0x15,
    0x1a,
    0x0,
    0x0,
}, {
    rcast<WorldmapScene::NodeStruct*>(0x20e7234),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::PathStruct*>(0x20e6d10),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::EntitySpawnSettings*>(0x20e5a64),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapPointStruct*>(0x20e7cb4),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6694),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6564),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6ea4),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::WMCharacterNode**>(0x20e5d7c),
    0x12,
    0x18,
    0x0,
    0x0,
}, {
    rcast<WorldmapScene::NodeStruct*>(0x20e73f0),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::PathStruct*>(0x20e69c4),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::EntitySpawnSettings*>(0x20e5a4c),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapPointStruct*>(0x20e802c),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e66d4),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e6884),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::MapObject*>(0x20e68d4),
    rcast<WorldmapScene::WMCharacterNode**>(0x20e6484),
    0x13,
    0x16,
    0x0,
    0x0
}
};```

then i just extended it

[stoic lava]

Gotcha

[fossil token]

will came in clutch

maybe he is superior to fuzzy

[stoic lava]

Ofc he is

[fossil token]

Oh yeah

I kinda want to make the wm camera also scroll on the y axis

and maybe also the z axis

because having worldmaps that are not just left to right would be cool

[tepid temple]

also make sure to check WMController

there's likely a lot to uncover in it

[stoic lava]

Guess who also wanted it:

This would help with the nsmbu style world map (everything conected)

After that it would need only the world number change after passing a path, and the song and mini map too

(Not saying im going to do this tho, im happy with my world maps)

[fossil token]

Yeah I have only looked at a very small amount of that

[stoic lava]

And again im in the wrong chat!!

Sorry illy

[fossil token]

do you think that ill need to modify anything related to save data?

[tepid temple]

yeah probably

[fossil token]

this looks important

[tepid temple]

seems to check for level starcoin completion

since combining the star coin node flags makes 7

[fossil token]

ahh makes sense

just found another thing on my todo list

world unlocks

[tepid temple]

good find

[quaint gorge]

nice worldmap code is getting more and more discovered

[fossil token]

I think im going to try and code tripple blocks today

and also proper celeste springs

i gotta do some modeling though which should be easy

[wide furnace]

oh nice

[near aurora]

I wish someone did that for NSMBW 😔

sorry for the ping

[fossil token]

I have this so far, just a model

[stoic lava]

Ohhh cool!

You need to make the colors now right?

[fossil token]

current state of it

[olive owl]

? block ascends into the void lmao

[wide furnace]

interesting

[fossil token]

more progress

[wide furnace]

oh nice!

[fossil token]

the best part is that i can give each third of the block its own thing inside

[wide furnace]

oh thats cool

i know it's still wip but it would probably be better to give a shadow to the question mark to make it look more consistent with the regular question blocks

[fossil token]

the textures are still placeholders

[fossil token]

this is what I mean by that

[wraith gust]

Neat

[fossil token]

spawning vines that go down is so wrong

[wide furnace]

oh you can do it with any item? nice

[fossil token]

I set it up so these bytes are the items that are spawned

how long until jpg64 asks for these for ssmb

[wide furnace]

lmaoo

[quaint gorge]

not much

[stoic lava]

LMAOOO

[fossil token]

these blocks are so hard to get right

the thing is that the texture is 32*16

instead of 48*16

[wide furnace]

oh dang :/

so thats why you didn't do it right away

[stoic lava]

LMAO IT LOOKS SO FUNNY

[fickle tapir]

new*r ds has triple coin blocks 🤨

[stoic lava]

Yep, but they are a mess

[wide furnace]

why are you censoring "newer" 😭

[stoic lava]

So she's making a diferent one, and triple block arent original from newer anyways

(And they're cool asf)

[patent ivy]

yes but for me the triple coin blocks in n*wer ds it glitches some times

[stoic lava]

Almost every ne*er ds actors are glitchy

[void tree]

n**er actors are a mess

[wraith gust]

n**r's a mess

[quaint gorge]

I didn't know actors from there were a mess

[fickle tapir]

you forgot the w

in n*w"r

[wraith gust]

[fossil token]

yall are acting like newer is an infections disease

in reality, its a parasite .j

[stoic lava]

Not fake tho

After the release nsmbhd turned into newer smbhd

[wide furnace]

its actually a whole epidemic

[stoic lava]

And its so rare to have a actual original rom game

[stoic lava]

Literally

[wraith gust]

I really like Newer DS, but I personally feel like it lost its essence when people started using it as a base for their hacks, they just ruined it

[stoic lava]

Yeah

They ruined the whole game tbh

[fossil token]

oh yeah, should I also do double blocks?

[stoic lava]

What is double blocks? (Nvm)

Oh yeah do it

[fossil token]

i also want to make double and tripple donut blocks

[stoic lava]

Those im not sure

[fossil token]

like nsmb2

[stoic lava]

But it could work yeah

[fickle tapir]

i honestly cant relate

im 100%ing the game for the second time

great game

[stoic lava]

No he is not saying about the newer ds

[fickle tapir]

the hacks

[stoic lava]

But about the newer ds hacks

[fickle tapir]

i havent seen much hacks with newer ds as a base

other than nsmbw ds

[stoic lava]

Theres a lot

[fickle tapir]

didnt know that

[wide furnace]

and thinking that i almost used it as a base for my old hack... 😭

[fossil token]

im gonna have another go at these textures

the double block shold be easy

but triple block not so much

[near aurora]

Cool

[fossil token]

I replied to this comment with the whole .cpp file lol

[stoic lava]

LMAO

[near aurora]

Damn bro

[vernal thicket]

not sure what youre using to make your graphics but i think in aseprite you can change the pixel ratio

[stoic lava]

I know making it without streaming the image

[vernal thicket]

something like that might help in this case if your graphics editor supports it

[stoic lava]

Streching*

[fossil token]

it should be fine now, the double blocks I just need to draw a texture for and that will work out since it doesnt get stretched and the triple blocks Im going to do smth like that for

[vernal thicket]

gotcha

[fossil token]

i love how i can export every frame with evey palatte lol

i think the double blocks look good now, im not sure why it apears darker one that one frame

probably smth code related

[stoic lava]

Or a pallete bug

[fossil token]

they all have identical palettes

[stoic lava]

Oh

[fossil token]

I think i can call these done now

all i need to do it add a way to offset them by half a tile

and now they are done

[tepid temple]

Nice work

[wraith gust]

Noice

[fossil token]

oh wait, i need a mega destroy state

ehh, ill do that later

[pine palm]

double block, nice lol

[fossil token]

oh yeah i also have blue ones

[wide furnace]

oh nice!

[wide furnace]

time to steal it
/j

[quaint gorge]

I was planning to add something like that too

[fossil token]

makes sense, those kind of things are useful for levels

[fossil token]

I started working on 4-3

[wide furnace]

oh nice

those "139" sprites are the double/triple blocks right?

[fossil token]

yeah and 89 is a villager

[wide furnace]

okay

[fickle tapir]

i immediately did the thing with the sleeves

to look like a villager

when i read that

[fossil token]

not that kind of villager lol, its this kind

[cloud pilot]

Are the themes for every world defined yet or are in constant change?

[wide furnace]

you just listed 2 extremes

[cloud pilot]

[stoic lava]

Ops

[fickle tapir]

how did you replace the second tower icon with an airship in the bottom map on w6?

[near aurora]

it's easy bro😭

[fickle tapir]

how do i do it

[stoic lava]

Editing the nsc thing

[fickle tapir]

?

what dat\

[stoic lava]

Nsc file uistudio

[near aurora]

[fossil token]

They have been defined

[stoic lava]

What are they?

The W1, W3, W6, W7, W8 i already know

The others i dont know

[wide furnace]

W2 is the Celeste-like world (i think inspired by Foresaken City)

[stoic lava]

Oh true i forget it

But w4 and w5?

[fossil token]

W4 is twilight town and w5 is snow

[stoic lava]

Ohhh cool!!!

[cloud pilot]

Nice!

[fossil token]

lil showcase

the first part of the level (the oudside bit) i dont like

[wide furnace]

oh nice!

koopa shells seem to not interact with swoopers tho

[cloud pilot]

I think it would be nice of the villager looked i little bit more 3d

[stoic lava]

They are sprites tho

[cloud pilot]

oh

[fossil token]

just found a random side effect of some unfinished w9 code

[vernal thicket]

whasit

[fossil token]

the image didnt go through earlier for some reason

[vernal thicket]

secret bonus mushroom house

[wide furnace]

weird

[fossil token]

https://youtube.com/shorts/VaPLA5aCJo4?feature=share

[quaint gorge]

Illy select all the vertices and merge them by distance

and see if it makes a difference

[wide furnace]

wow nice!!!

did the game crash at the end of the video tho?

[fossil token]

yeah lol, that because i loaded a non existent animation

i thought it would be fun

[fossil token]

yeah good point, that should help with the shading

it messed some stuff up lol but the shading is better

[quaint gorge]

add a new uv and then delete the old

I forgot in which tab that was

[fossil token]

ill try it tmr or smth

beeg shell

the model is pretty messed up

[wide furnace]

oh cool

[wide furnace]

larry turned into sand

[vernal thicket]

pharaohs curse

[wide furnace]

lol

[fossil token]

If will smith was here he would say smth like... "thats what happens when you follow fuzzys cringe advice"

[quaint gorge]

nah that's supposed to happen

which can be fixed with two clicks

adding a new one and deleting the old uv map

u won't have to uv map everything

it will just fix the bug

[rapid bramble]

also set shade smooth

[quaint gorge]

I don't think that it makes a difference in-game, does it?

[wide furnace]

i think it does?

[fossil token]

ill give it a try my tmr

well maybe tmr night because i got to have a surgery done to get some screws and plates removed from my jaw tmr

[tepid temple]

it definitely does

[tepid temple]

good luck with that, hope it's not too painful

[stoic lava]

Thats why you shouldnt follow cringefuzzy stuff

[rapid bramble]

ofc it does

otherwise normals are flat

[stoic lava]

Bro ofc it does

[fossil token]

so your saying that I shouldn't do something that removes 152 vertices?

[stoic lava]

Im joking mostly

[stoic lava]

Because of this

[tepid temple]

will smith says DO NOT remove doubles

[stoic lava]

What is doubles

[fossil token]

When two or more vertices of a mesh object are so close together that they can't be distinguished

[stoic lava]

Ohhh

I usually remove those

[quaint gorge]

I thought that NSMB would render it smooth anyway

don't remove double, merge them by distance

[rapid bramble]

the gpu operates on normals, and that's what smooth/flat affects

[acoustic granite]

Speaking Of Sand, What If Larry Koopa Is On World 2.
World 2 In New++ Super Mario Bros Is Gonna Be The Desert Theme. Right?
Cause Illy's Snapshot Of Larry Koopa's Skin Model Is Same As Sand.

[stoic lava]

The larry is for sakura smb and new++ smb, idk if bester will want to use it tho

[acoustic granite]

I Know. Adding Larry Koopa In The Desert Themed World Was My Idea.
I Was Gonna Ask Illy If World 2 Is Gonna Be The Desert Theme In New++ Super Mario Bros.

[stoic lava]

No world 2 will be frozaken city

[wide furnace]

its gonna be Forsaken City from Celeste

[acoustic granite]

Oh. If World 2 Is Gonna Be Forsaken City From Celeste In New ++ Super Mario Bros, How Come The World 2 Icon Is A Castle Banner With A Shy Guy Face On It At A Night Field?

[stoic lava]

Its a old image

[fossil token]

it isnt, that was a test from two years ago

this is its current state

[acoustic granite]

Is It True That Your World 2 Theme Is Gonna Be Forsaken City In New++ Super Mario Bros? Cause My Idea Is Larry Koopa Is Gonna Be In The Desert Themed World. I Hope The Desert World Is Gonna Be Added As An Extra World Or Additional World. It’s Gonna Have 4 Levels Just Like Sakura Super Mario Bros Ds's World 4. If Not, That's Fine. I Just Love Giving Everyone Ideas.

[stoic lava]

It will not going to have desert i think

[acoustic granite]

I Know. My Idea Was Rejected. Because The Desert Theme Is Gonna Be Replaced With Forsaken City. Just Like You Said And Illy Planned. I Guess The Desert Theme Is Gonna Be Added In The Sequel Of New++ Super Mario Bros. Also Known As New++ Super Mario Bros 2 As My Prediction. I Can Make Prediction Videos.

[wide furnace]

i dont think there'll be a sequel tho

[rapid bramble]

Brother Why You Typing In Pascal Case 🗣️

[wide furnace]

i mean the hack isnt even finished yet, don't expect a sequel

[acoustic granite]

I'll Make A Prediction Video Of The New++ Super Mario Bros Sequel. Trust Me. I Make Prediction Videos. It’s What I Must Do. I Did 2 Video Of Game Predictions. One Is Donkey Kong Country Trilogy Remake And The Second Is Super Mario Galaxy 3. I Make Ideas. I Can Make More Prediction Videos. You Should Watch 2 Of My Prediction Videos. I Know You’ll Love It.

[wide furnace]

can you please avoid ping replies tho?

[acoustic granite]

Okay Okay. Sorry About That. I Just Wanted To Know That I Did 2 Prediction Videos. Donkey Kong Country Trilogy Remake And Super Mario Galaxy 3.

[cloud pilot]

Disable ping replies clicking this while replying to messages

[acoustic granite]

Okay Okay. Sorry About That. I Just Wanted To Know That I Did 2 Prediction Videos. Donkey Kong Country Trilogy Remake And Super Mario Galaxy 3.

[cloud pilot]

No problem : )

[acoustic granite]

Good. Now As I Was Saying. That I Made 2 Prediction Videos. Donkey Kong Country Trilogy Remake In Switch Part 1 And Super Mario Galaxy 3 Part 1. But I’ll Tell You What I’m Gonna Make. I’ll Make A Prediction Of More Levels In New++ Super Mario Bros. Does This Sound Good?

[wide furnace]

Why Are You Writing Like That Though 😭

[acoustic granite]

I Don’t Know. It’s Just That I Write Fine. But Never Mind What I Write. Let Me Show You My 2 Prediction Videos. Part 1 Of Donkey Kong Country Trilogy Switch And Part 1 Of Super Mario Galaxy.

[wide furnace]

preferably do not send the videos in this channel

[acoustic granite]

Oh Okay. But Is There A Chat Channel That I Can Post Videos In? If Not. I Cam Create A Chat Channel.

[wide furnace]

maybe in #hobby-showcase

[acoustic granite]

Oh Thanks.

[fossil token]

this is one of the best comments i have got

lmao

[wide furnace]

lol

[fossil token]

I wanted to work on the hack but i feel really fucked from the surgery, hopefully ill be able to fix that larry model tmr

[wide furnace]

dang, i hope you feel better

[fossil token]

i tried out what you said with the model fuzzy, it made no diffrence to the lighting

[fossil token]

where can i find this setting?

also i fixed double/triple blocks today

they are not inline with the other tiles

i still need to make them kill enimies that are on them when they are hit though

[rapid bramble]

blender, in object mode

right click object, set shade smooth

[quaint gorge]

I think it really makes no difference

iirc I tried it with worldmaps, and I didn't see a difference between the non smooth shaded and smooth shaded one

[stoic lava]

In world map it dont works

[quaint gorge]

so smooth shading makes no difference apparently

[stoic lava]

It does

My yoshi model have it, it looks totally better

It seens you dont know how 3d works

[quaint gorge]

bruh then idc at this point

I will enable it occasionally when I feel like it improves the shading

I mostly do it with an angle anyway

[stoic lava]

Fuck the angle, smooth shading makes the model better

[quaint gorge]

it doesn't look good on certain angles with flat surfaces

[stoic lava]

Nahhhh you really applyied it in flat surfaces?

Its completely useless

[wide furnace]

i think its good for models that are meant to look round

[stoic lava]

And looks horrible

[stoic lava]

Yeah

[wide furnace]

at least from what i've seen when i tried modding sm64

[stoic lava]

No but its right

[wide furnace]

i assume that it works the same way, since it was also doable in blender directly

[stoic lava]

Ndy will ban me for yapping to much 😭

[olive owl]

If you don’t know you don’t know, I don’t wanna hear a comment like this from you given your crippling dependency on others for code mods 💀

[stoic lava]

Yeah thats rue

True*

I just said this because it was funny

[wraith gust]

Also, you should really stop with the "this is shit" or "this is useless" comments

[stoic lava]

But no, @quaint gorge
You should apply it in objects meant to be rounded (enemy models for exemple)

[stoic lava]

Oki

[stoic lava]

Since it create a diferent shadow casting

Wich looks weird on flat objs

(Flat meshes i mean)

Tho i dont use it a lot in my models

I only use in player models

And some enemies/objects

Like the nsmbw meteour

[quaint gorge]

it looks good with auto smooth shading and then you enter the fitting angle

[stoic lava]

Yeah

[quaint gorge]

except for just a flat plane, don't use it on that

[stoic lava]

Ohhh gotcha, gotcha

[fossil token]

thanks, larry looks a lot better now

[vernal thicket]

hes smooth now

[wide furnace]

clean!!

[fossil token]

I might try and rip the rest of the koopaling models later so they are ready for the programing stage

[fossil token]

larry jump

im going to make the fight loop the code the projectiles

[rich palm]

Honestly super impressive

Will Jr. only be the boss of 8-Castle?

[fossil token]

no, jr will be on airships and in w1 and w8 castles

[fossil token]

this is as much of it as i can do today, my brain is to messed up from meds

[wide furnace]

oh nice!!

i'd suggest to make the shell model smooth shaded tho

[fossil token]

the shell model isnt done

[fossil token]

its still this messed up shell model

[fossil token]

guess what, im doing more anyways

[wide furnace]

when the motivation is too strong:

[stoic lava]

When the koopaling is finished our mods will be crazy 🔥

[quaint gorge]

scale = Vec3(0.7fx, 0.7fx, 0.7fx); please

and you're missing some animations?

aside from that, it looks great

[quaint gorge]

can't wait for the new 10 mods with koopalings that'll be coming out in 2025 descargar para android

[fossil token]

why?

[stoic lava]

At least new++smb and sakura smb will give a start to a new era of nsmbds

[quaint gorge]

larry is too big

[stoic lava]

Shitty smb idk, but c++smb para android will

[fossil token]

i have them all they are just really hard to get the speed and timing right

[stoic lava]

They have the same size lmfao

[quaint gorge]

so my specialty

[stoic lava]

Its right

[quaint gorge]

yeah they shouldn't

actually it depends

@fossil token is it the same size as Bowser JR?

[wide furnace]

too big? i would have said the right size or slightly too small

[quaint gorge]

I looked it up and it seems like larry's head is a bit below mario's head

[wide furnace]

oh okay

[fossil token]

it's close enough

[quaint gorge]

hmm

[fossil token]

im going off mario wii, not mario maker

[quaint gorge]

that's nsmbu 😭

but it might that way because larry is ducking slightly

[wide furnace]

speaking of which, the proportions in mario maker are very weird imo

[quaint gorge]

but the larry's head appears to be too big idk

feels a big weird

[quaint gorge]

I agree

[fossil token]

the model is ripped straight from mario wii, its probably the angle I have him on

[quaint gorge]

I would look at Boswer Jr. for the proportions

nah angle is fine

[fossil token]

what do you think i did

[quaint gorge]

is it the hair then?

probably

I guess it's fine that way, leave it

[stoic lava]

Vram overload

[fossil token]

[stoic lava]

Ops sorry

[fossil token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0Hjp-CSlV4

[wraith gust]

This is really awesome

[wide furnace]

larry looks very dead at the end lol

jokes aside, that's really cool!!

[olive owl]

@sullen plinth you'd appreciate this

You 😭 me, but they were working on replacing Mario with Larry at one point

[wide furnace]

ohh okay

[wraith gust]

Yeah

[wide furnace]

my bad lol, i thought you pinged him because of his name 😭

[sullen plinth]

Woah! Larry actually in the game! Is his model DS-ified? If so, could I use the model and perhaps do a new mod over Mario?

[fossil token]

the model and animations are ripped directly from mario wii

[sullen plinth]

Ah, I see, well I knew the animations looked like the official ones. I wasn't sure if the model was customized or left the same.

[sullen plinth]

Speaking of that mod, I still need to work on making it console compatible at some point, as well as getting rid of weird bugs that occur for some reason like sometimes the player hits an invisible ceiling everytime the player jumps, it's weird.

I would most certainly prefer this mod with actual Larry animations to be honest, so I could probably try to recreate some of those to put over Mario's?

[olive owl]

That'd be neat

[quaint gorge]

Illy are you still trying to implement waluigi?

What was the issue last time?

[fossil token]

I havent tried in a while, i still want to do it though

i dont remember what the issue was

[fossil token]

i got a question for the smart people here, how do yall think i should do koopaling projectiles

i have two ideas

1. use textures and have it switch between them so smth like this

2. use the bowser fire models and animations but recolour them

also, do any of you know how i can add more sound effects to the game without doing the newer ds thing where they switch the files during runtime

[quaint gorge]

Depends, if there is enough vram why not use a model. But I wouldn't recolor it, I would simply make a custom one

if you don't want to, use the textures, it's easier and quicker to make

[fossil token]

ill try and make the kooplaing projectile actor tmr

[fossil token]

thats what i was planning

im thinking of using it and extending the palatte and setting a colour offset depending on the actors settings

[wide furnace]

doesnt the nsmwii koopaling projectile has some playstation symbols on it or something? or guess i'm getting confused?

or only during the fight?

idk

[fossil token]

im not using the nsmbwii koopaling fire models

[wide furnace]

oh okay

(well at least im not getting confused)

[cloud pilot]

It was only that bowser's wizard that had playstation icons

[wraith gust]

Kamek

[cloud pilot]

Yes

[wide furnace]

yea i got confused with kamek maybe

or maybe with smb3

[fossil token]

no, all the koopalings do

[cloud pilot]

Really? I never noticed!

[wide furnace]

oh so i remember correctly then

[near aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/ups-error-facepalm-gif-15403364

damn wrong reply

sorry TheBester7

[wraith gust]

Dunno why but this is funny, maybe it could be an emoji/sticker

[fossil token]

I ended up making the hitbox for the fire smaller then the player would think just so they dont feel like they get screwed over on some frames of the animation

[fossil token]

(since we have the slots i did it, if we need slots ill get rid of it)

[fossil token]

ok larry is kinda hard, since its random if he will jump or shoot he can jump like five times in a row and really through you off

I need to add a faster jump/attack mode and some diffrent projectile settings as only his shell slide stage is customizable right now

SD:/_nds/nds-bootstrap/patchOffsetCache/MY_ROM_FILENAME.bin

[queen coral]

Omg

[fossil token]

I want to finish off larry, i have the sound effects kinda set up in my sdat so i just need to find out how this crap works and how to load and play the sound effects

im trying to think how i should respond to these comments

i dont know how to respond but since my channel is quite small its feels rude not to respond

[quaint gorge]

first: yes custom bosses

second: yes, a guy
named fuzzy suggested making them completely custom and here check his youtube account <insert link to my channel> out. He is currently working on the best NSMB mod there is (after or before yours, you decide).

third: only if you're kai cenat skibidi and fanum taxxed

fourth: yes, was it not obvious? What else did you expect?

well calculated response 😎

[vernal thicket]

do you think the first one means bosses nsmbds hasnt had before or totally original bosses unfamiliar to the nsmb series

[quaint gorge]

Hard to say, but I feel like the second one

[vernal thicket]

for 3rd you could probably say "new++ doesnt have a need for fishbones at this time. please be sure to subscribe to stay up to date on all things about new++!"

[quaint gorge]

I could code so many cool bosses but gotta stick to one in lsmb

I thought of some original and non-typical ones

[vernal thicket]

make a boss rush level so you can code one million billion bajillion custom bosses

[quaint gorge]

nah

But I could code some when I'm done with lsmb

might try to help out missing lands or lost sequel to make it cooler

[fossil token]

nah you gotta help out with ssmb

jpg64 doesnt have enough code hacks yet

[vernal thicket]

ture jpeg is starving

[quaint gorge]

💀 pls no

I will only if I see more levels, only then I will consider it

[fossil token]

Well he has the temu versions of my code hacks tbh

they are not up to date with the current optimized versions of them lol

[quaint gorge]

"temu"?, care to explain

[quaint gorge]

ahh

[vernal thicket]

shite versions basically

budget

[fossil token]

Im making a joke about poor qaulity

[rapid bramble]

second: yes, a guy named fuzzy suggested making them completely custom and here check his youtube account <insert link to my channel> out. He is currently working on the best NSMB mod there is (after or before yours, you decide).
worst advertiser known to mankind

[quaint gorge]

yeah, figure it out later

I gotta raise more attention for my hack 🤫

in any possible way

[vernal thicket]

you could rent a bilboard

[quaint gorge]

gonna start working on lsmb again (finally)

[vernal thicket]

idea: spend all your time and motivation and will hyping up and advertising your own hak untill youre so burnt out you can never do anything ever again for the rest of

[fossil token]

ill do that if you buy this 💀

[stoic lava]

Yeah i wanted acorn suit 😭

[stoic lava]

I have a lot of levels done, i didn't showcased them yet

Theres like 5 level i didn't showcased iirc

[quaint gorge]

You don't have to show every single one, just a video that is focused on the level unlike your other videos where you show the custom actors

[stoic lava]

Yeah

Since if i showcase everything when the game releases people will already been played it

[fossil token]

[quaint gorge]

illy worldmap powerup state fix when?

[stoic lava]

Whats world map powerup state fix

[stoic lava]

Nah they arent poor quality

[fossil token]

i dont know how to do it, the only way i can think of is by having a global variable that does it

and i couldnt figure out how the save stuff works for the powerup states

[stoic lava]

And why i read this as "save fluff works" lmfao

[quaint gorge]

😫

[tepid temple]

why would you type this

grown ass man

[stoic lava]

Yeah because his ass is so small he need to grow it

[quaint gorge]

😭 you want me to gather all the weird and crazy stuff you said for your age?

[stoic lava]

(I think the joke didn't sound well)

[quaint gorge]

I was kinda scared that I might be talking to a child

[stoic lava]

I didn't said nothing weird to my age i think

[quaint gorge]

bro is obsessed with my ass for no reason, that's gross, you should get another role for this

[stoic lava]

What 😭

[tepid temple]

???

[stoic lava]

@tepid temple i said smth wrong?

[tepid temple]

please take this out of Illy's channel

[fossil token]

but your the type of person who would go to the docter because you are confused about why your ass has a crack in it /jk anyways, please take this shit out of the channel, this isnt the place for shitposting

[stoic lava]

Also, at least i have roles and you dont

[stoic lava]

LMAO
Sure i will stop shitposting here

[quaint gorge]

my reaction to this convo sums it up pretty well, anyway can't wait to see the finalized version of larry in new++

and he looks actually a bit challenging for a semi boss

gl

[stoic lava]

Yeah same, illy code some cool stuff to this mod

[fossil token]

i dont know how the hell that happend lol

Im thinking of putting the jump rates up so 2/3 attacks are jumps instead of it being a 50/50 if he shoots or jumps

im also thinking of adding an attack where he goes in his shell and jumps

I think it could be cool to use the shell state for more then just a doge phase after every hit

[quaint gorge]

yeah I was wondering why the koopalings weren't making any use of their shells

literally the strongest attack

except when you can avoid the ground

[fossil token]

I got an explanation and some code to add more sound effects from Edit

so tmr morning im going to try and finish up larry

[acoustic granite]

Hi Guys. Sorry I’m Late. My IPad's WiFi Has A Slow Buffering So I’m Using My Phone To Chat Some Ideas. And Here’s My Idea. Larry Koopa Will Be On World 5. I Saw Your Video Of The Larry Boss Fight Development. And I Would Love To Have Larry Koopa On The Snow Themed World 5.

[fossil token]

why would i put the easiest koopaling in w5

larrys going in w1

i have coded him in a way to base the other koopalings that i code off him

[acoustic granite]

Oh. If Larry Gonna Be World 1, What Koopaling Is Gonna Be On World 5?

[analog oracle]

i think it should depend on what fits the koopaling best

cuz new wii is

1. larry
2. roy
3. lemmy
4. wendy
5. iggy
6. morton
7. ludwig

[olive owl]

Every world is just larry

Same fight every time too

[near aurora]

I Like the Holloween pfp
🔥

[olive owl]

Thanks!

[acoustic granite]

Okay. Since Larry Is Gonna Be On World 1, Then Roy Koopa Is Gonna Be On World 5 (Snow Theme). Compared To Morton Koopa Jr In A Snow Themed World (World 4) In New Super Mario Bros 2.

[fossil token]

i have already said many times that the placement of the koopalings is going to depend on how difficult they turn out to be

easiet one in world 2 and hardest one in w6

but ludwig will be the hardest and in w7 because he always is

[acoustic granite]

I Think Frosty Cake Said It Not You. But I Understand. But I Would Love To See What Forsaken Ctiy (World 2) Would Look Like. Maybe A City Of Shy Guys? I Guess.

[analog oracle]

-# i mean that was ME saying it now, she started working on the koopalings i think even before i joined so lol

[acoustic granite]

Okay Okay. So Illy? Are You Gonna Work On World 2? Cause World 2 Is Forsaken City. Maybe Forsaken City Can Be A City Of Shy Guys. Just Like The World 2 Icon I Would Love To See That.

[fossil token]

thats not the plan for w2

dont mind this im dumping some screen shots for custom sound sets for the larry fight

[acoustic granite]

Oh……Well What’s The Plan For World 2? I Hope It’s The Desert Theme.

[fossil token]

im refering to having shy guys in w2

its still a snowy city themed world

[acoustic granite]

Oh. That What I Wanted To Know. I Would Love World 2 To Have A Snow City Theme. It’s Perfect. And I Have A Idea For World 2. World 2 Is Gonna Be The Subcon Theme From Super Mario Bros 2. Cause World 2 Is Gonna Be Based Off World 4 From Super Mario Bros. Cause World 4 Is A Snow Theme For Super Mario Bros 2. And It Will Have A Snowy Temple And A Castle. Would That Be Great?

[fossil token]

I set all of larry's sound banks up earlier today

and his sounds work in game

besides one of them which is broken

gonna try to fix it later tonight or tmr

[fossil token]

w2 is nothing like any mario game, the theme of the world is more on platforming than on enemies. I plan on introducing the player to the fncy movment, long jumps, mid air twirls and diving in w2 as well as some other things that are going to be commonly used in levels such as magic platforms if i can pull them off

[stoic lava]

NEW PFP!!!!

[wide furnace]

oh nice!!

[stoic lava]

The Banks will need to be set in the sdat for the koopalings to work right?

[fossil token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fts1zF1Y1s more progress

[analog oracle]

WWW

[acoustic granite]

Nice. You Did A Good Job With The Larry Koopa Boss. BTW World 1 Is Gonna Be The Grass And Plains Theme. Right?

[queen coral]

Wow

World 1: Larry
World 2: Morton
World 3: Wendy
World 4: Iggy
World 5: Lemmy
World 6: Roy
World 7: Ludwing

[acoustic granite]

Good Koopaling World Concept, Keith Style. So Anyways World 1 Will Be The Plains Or Grass Theme.

[stoic lava]

Grass

[acoustic granite]

Thanks JPG64.

Now About The Conversation About The Scrapped Content For Your Game Mod, JPG64. Yoshi Is Gonna Be Replaced With The Acorn Suit PowerUp. Since The Trailer You Made Said The Mod Is Gonna Have 2 New Powerups. You Didn’t Tell Me Your Adding A Third Custom PowerUp. But I Love That Idea. Perfect.

[fossil token]

please keep this channel about new++

[fossil token]

world 1 is night grasslands with a focus on koopa para troopers

[fossil token]

the order is going to be based on difficulty and i dont know how difficult each one is going to end up being

although larry is w1 and ludwig is w7

and i have a conscept for lemmy that might end up being really difficult so hes probably going to end up being w6

[wraith gust]

Are you planning on implementing custom mechanics for the Koopalings instead of replicating the NSMBWii/U ones?

[fossil token]

yeah, look at larry

he has a shell chrage attack

[wraith gust]

Gotcha

[fossil token]

I be towering

i always forget how hart towers are to make

shifting the view half a tile over to give a one tile center has made it easier for me though

[vernal thicket]

seems like ya like using climbable fences for towers

[fossil token]

this is the first tower that uses them

8-castle used them

[vernal thicket]

oh gotcha

[fossil token]

this comment is kinda hard to respond too, i dont know what to say because its so true

[vernal thicket]

i do believe mods are held to a different standard/are for a different crowd than retail releases

thats why tgeyre mods n not original games

[wraith gust]

Call me crazy, but I had this exact same thought too, lol

I can't really tell why, but I suppose it's because of how limited this game is and because Koopalings are in every NSMB game except for this one

[fossil token]

i think its ones of those things were a minority is really loud

kind of like how there are some communities that are hated because of some toxic people who are really loud whilst the rest of the community are normal people

[quaint gorge]

this, I mean since they were in NSMBW NSMB2 NSMBU, one might wanna know how they would be in NSMB

and illy will probably try to make them more custom on top of it, like the shell attack so let's see how it turns out

[acoustic granite]

Sorry. I Was Talking To JPG64.

[fossil token]

im thinking or recreating this part of smw 1-castle for the secret exit route in 1-tower

[quaint gorge]

yeah that section looks really fun

[wraith gust]

Seeing retro level references in hacks often feels like a nice touch

[acoustic granite]

Sounds Perfect! I Think The 1 Tower Level To Be Just Like Super Mario World World 1 Castle. If Not, That’s Fine.

[near aurora]

To me adding references in levels is lazy.

but it's my opinion

[quaint gorge]

any references?

[bronze shell]

it depends on how the refrences are added

if it's lazily added, it's bad

if it fits the level, it's fine

[sullen plinth]

The shell charge attack is creative, but I'm not too sure about it tbh since Larry canonically gets dizzy from spinning. But I guess you don't really have to follow canon.

I would be interested in learning how you made a custom object for this game though. Are there any tutorials on that so I can make a custom object playable Larry?

[quaint gorge]

If you're talking about the model, you can use Blender, a 3d tool for modelling

you'll need the NNS plugins on top of that to export the model to a format that is compatible for DS

those plugins simply allow you to export it to that format (don't let those confuse you)

[sullen plinth]

I'm talking about programming a custom object entirely, but I'm thinking for new player Larry object model, I want to make it a programmed custom object so he animates like and moves around like Larry, having the same kind of movesets too like shooting magic blasts at enemies. That would be really cool to if I could make.

But yeah, I knew about that stuff. I custom imported into NSMB and MKDS a while back, hehe. 😄

[quaint gorge]

well it's possible but hard, and impossible with no coding knowledge

[sullen plinth]

I have coding knowledge, I want to know if using C++ is a viable option. I know I can do what I have in mind with 64 DS already.

[quaint gorge]

the player has a lot of animations and you'll have to recreate every single one except for the unused ones which can be replaced with dummy animations

[quaint gorge]

oh I see

[olive owl]

C++ is what we mainly use for modding DS

We should move to #nsmb-chat

[sullen plinth]

Good to hear, and yeah, probably, sorry about that.

[olive owl]

All good

[fossil token]

It can be lazy, it depends on how it’s done, in this case it’s going to be an extra room on the secret exit path instead of going straight the the flag pole which imo isn’t lazy

I’m also thinking of making the secret exit take you to a harder version of the Larry fight

[acoustic granite]

Good Idea. The Harder Version Of Larry Fight Would Be Similar To Larry's Castle In Super Mario World. Perfect!

[fickle tapir]

maybe it could take you to w3 instead of w2? (it would have to be way harder tho)

[fossil token]

[fossil token]

hes in w1 tower, you know the level that unlocks w1 cannon when you take the secret exit

[fossil token]

this is the 1- secret exit larry fight

now i just need to make it so he's sleeping and you need to jump on him to wake him up and start the fight

[wide furnace]

nice!

can you make it so the secret fight leads to the secret exit?

[fossil token]

yeah thats what I need to do

im going to make larry koopalings spawn a door when killed and make them lead to a flag pole

i kind of like that better than ending with a victory animation

[wide furnace]

oh okay

[fossil token]

this is what the smw 1-castle bit looks like, i think its a fun little remix for the secret exit route

[quaint gorge]

yeah can't wait to play it once it's out

is every koopaling battle going to be a secret battle fight?

[wide furnace]

oh thats nice

[stoic lava]

It looks good actually

[fossil token]

maybe, i think its cool to have a harder version of the battle but for larry, its garding the 1-cannon unlock

[stoic lava]

You plan doing more of those for other castles or only caslte 1?

[fossil token]

and its a pretty hard fight so i think works well

[stoic lava]

The koopalings will be diferent actors or only one with diferent bytes?

If they are diferent actors on ssmb i will use the harder versions of them

[wraith gust]

Looks great

[rapid bramble]

you should remove the stomp callback if the actor is in the shell sliding state

also, you could spawn particles for sliding and also play a sfx (like bowser jr)

other than that, really cool

[fossil token]

ahh shit i said to myself that im going to stay up until 2.00am to finish 1-tower which i did

but its the start of daylight saving where i live

so its 3.00am now

and i have work tmr morning

[rich palm]

I love harder versions of bosses in games and this scratches that itch; it looks super cool

[rich palm]

They overstayed their welcome in the platformers, but it's really impressive that you've managed to backport Larry into NSMBDS

[queen coral]

Omg

[fickle tapir]

it could work for 1-c?

[analog oracle]

how do u even add more levels to worlds 😭

only extra level w1 has is 1-a

[wraith gust]

I think he meant 1-Castle

[analog oracle]

oh lol......

[stoic lava]

With code you can

[fossil token]

the point of the koopalings is to replace the bowser jr fights and move bowser jr fights to airships

[rich palm]

How many airships will there be?

I remember Worlds 6 and 8 having them iirc

From the previews you've uploaded

[fossil token]

3-b, 6-5 and 8-A are airships

and 1-Castle might also end up being one

[rich palm]

Sounds interesting

[fickle tapir]

oh that makes sense

[fickle tapir]

👍

[fickle tapir]

unused levels and node points like w6 cannon and the mvsl levels

whole 6 levels you can add

[wraith gust]

I'm pretty sure adding more levels is not that easy

[fickle tapir]

it kind of is

change a node to be a full level (in the old wme's) and set the area to the w6 cannon or mvsl levels

its WAY easier than it seems

but pathing and animations hell no

hard

[fossil token]

https://youtu.be/CrgMRst9sxo

[vernal thicket]

nice work

seems like a solid 1-tower

n makes nice use of the triple wide blocks

think you could prolly put something more valuable in the first double wide block

since it seems a touch tricky to get to

[rich palm]

My one bit of feedback is that Larry could use some sounds for when he gets hit and when he dies; the level is overall really cool and I'm ashamed to say the "POG" got a chuckle out of me

[quaint gorge]

3:53

why was mario climbing the fence as if it was a pole

other than that, great level as always

[vernal thicket]

my guess would be the mid air twirl or smthn

[stoic lava]

Mid air twirl

[tepid temple]

didn't I fix that in one of the updates

great level btw

[wraith gust]

Nice level as always, looks pretty solid

I also like how the tower tileset is like a DS-ified version of the NSMBU tower tileset

Also, you probably didn't realize nor do you care, but the hard blue block seems to have some green pixels on it

[rich palm]

Checking back, I cannot unsee it

[cloud pilot]

Lookimg good

[stoic lava]

In the recent update its fixed

She's probably using a older version

[wide furnace]

nice level!!

i wanted to point out those 2 things but it has been done by others already

also about the Larry fight, Larry goes into his shell instantly (like Blue Shell Mario), instead of having an entering shell animation (like Bowser Jr) which imo feels a bit weird

[wraith gust]

You can also step on him while he's in his shell form, but I think Illy mentioned it's not finished

Also, in the secret exit fight he just lies in the middle of the air after you defeat him

[quaint gorge]

most of the stuff is easily fixable (if Illy didn't make it more complicated than needed)

[wide furnace]

also thats kinda simple things to do, but the exit areas and the fight areas feel pretty empty imo. maybe changing the structure slightly could help with that

and one last thing, i think it would be nice to make a "fire" sfx play whenever Larry shoots his projectiles

[fossil token]

Yeah I need to adjust the side and bottom sensors a bit, I did not know that could still happen and I though that I had fixed it already

I wanted to leave the bottom sensor large so Larry couldn’t jump into a pit originally but there is some other code that handles that so it isn’t needed anymore

[stoic lava]

Illy, the Larry koopa theres 2 actors for the hard and easy versions or its only one?

[fossil token]

I did not notice that, it’ll fix it later

[stoic lava]

Just asking because larry will not going to be in w1 in ssmb, but on w3 train so i would ise the harder version of it instead the normal one

[fossil token]

I need to add that check in, It’s probably something I forgot as I have the para shell code mixed in with that as well as the long jump code

[fossil token]

I actually left that in because i think its kinda fun, its not hard to disable that though

[fossil token]

I dont know what sfx i would use for that

[quaint gorge]

Can you create a new sfx or replace one?

[analog oracle]

lava death?

[fossil token]

i can easily add one

[analog oracle]

no wait i forgot that the flames r magic

hmmm

[wide furnace]

either the bowser's flame or the burner i guess?

[vernal thicket]

couldnt you just cheese him by groundpounding him with shell mario

since id imagine thatd negate the damage yiu normally take

[quaint gorge]

bump the player if he is in shell

[fossil token]

Larry doesnt take any damage in the shell state

[fossil token]

does anyone have any ideas for what I could put out here?

im thinking of just making a wall with these

I was also thinking of adding a red star or a mega shroom at the secret exit flag for fun and doing a bonus area

[near aurora]

I have 0 ideas

😕

[wide furnace]

maybe some kind of structure like that?

[wraith gust]

I don't really know what you could add, but something I would recommend is placing the flagpoles further away from the platforms / fences, since you can easily reach the flagpole's top and farm lifes (specially when you have the midair twirl)

[wide furnace]

tho yea i think adding some deco/background tiles could be a nice touch as well

[fossil token]

just pasted a structure from another level

[wide furnace]

maybe for one of them, make stairs going upwards, and reach the current ground length, when you come out of one of the doors? (for that you'll have to place the door lower)

for the other one, you could make some sort of step: place the door 1 tile higher and place 4 blocks underneath (2 right below the door and 2 on the right of those blocks)

[wraith gust]

Me when I'm too lazy to tile stuff manually

[fossil token]

ehh i dont really care to much tbh

[wide furnace]

okay then

[fossil token]

I might through a mushroom in there or smth, to make the secret exit route more manageable

i dont remember what the id of a mushroom is though lol

this is what the function looks like

the double/tripple block actor uses the last three bytes as to determin what spawns and i dont remember what id spanws what item

[void tree]

why don't you check the reference?

[fossil token]

good point

i ended up putting a mushroom in the left side of that double block

[fossil token]

I started making the first autoscroller of new++, how long until I give up and make it a normal level?

[wraith gust]

The two times I made autoscroller levels I ended up removing the autoscrollers from said levels since they turned out boring and long, I'm not very good at making those

Autoscroller levels are neither fun to play, nor to make imo

[cloud pilot]

Autoscrollers are bad because there is almost nothing going on, so to make a good autoscroler it should be hard or fast

The train level in newersmbwii is fun due to the fast auto scroller

[wide furnace]

its not an autoscroller tho (the newerwii level)

[vernal thicket]

pretty sure it is

[cloud pilot]

Eitherway the airship from world 8 from newersmbwii is also a fast autoscroler and its also fun

[wide furnace]

oh wait i thought that you meant roller coaster level, im dumb 😭

[fossil token]

Omg what’s with this kid and fish bones

[quaint gorge]

If you plan on adding I can borrow you a model I made for it

[rich palm]

Fisbone

F i s b o n e

[quaint gorge]

but it has many unnecessary polygons

It's hard sometimes to create an enemy that has a lot of details with as little polygons as possible

[bronze shell]

add a secret area that just has a sign that says "no fish bones here"