New++ Super Mario Bros

[fossil token]

i am mainly refearing to how things share palates

thats the worst part

[wide furnace]

only select the modified texture + palette and press the "save" symbol button (💾) and do that for every texture

[wide furnace]

i think only the bush silhouettes and some water texture share palettes

[quaint gorge]

I would honestly just use the original goombas

I thought that I liked how the 2d enemies were looking in newerDS, but after getting into modding myself and playing more rom hacks, it don't think so anymore.

I don't like it when people try to port a style made for nsmb games with higher resolution to DS. For example, newer tilesets or nsmbu tilesets.

[fossil token]

I didnt rip anything, I touched up the original graphics a lot to make them look like that, im still unsure of it tbh but I want to play around with it a bit

[vernal thicket]

we gotta get a side by side goomb comparison

[quaint gorge]

Sorry if it sounded like this to you. I was only refering to you with the first message. The rest was just talking about changing textures generally.

[rich palm]

Don't wanna jinx it or come off as a suck-up, but I think this hack may surpass Newer DS, at least from what I've seen

[wraith gust]

This hack will be much better than Newer DS, I bet

[stoic lava]

Same

[wraith gust]

You can't deny that Illy is the most ambitious NSMB hacker of this era

[stoic lava]

^

[rich palm]

Yeah

Given what I heard about NSMBDS' fucked-up coding from Skawo's Newer DS playthrough, this stuff is genuinely gobsmacking

[stoic lava]

I hope that people DONT use this mod as a base for they mod like they did on newer, illy when release should make something that only her nsmbe could open n++smb rom

[wraith gust]

Lock the rom basically

[stoic lava]

Yeah

[wraith gust]

Ahem ahem ||The Newest Team||

[rich palm]

I heard of Newest

Also some NSMBWii demake

[stoic lava]

This word gives me triggers, pls delete it 😭

[stoic lava]

This one used newer ds for something that is good, and tbh this guy did a cool work in nsmbw ds

Its not bad did like others newer hacks

[wraith gust]

As far as I know, they were going to make a NSMBWii/2/U demake and they cancelled it (Like they did with almost all of their hacks), and there's also this NSMBWii demake made by J0hnn0, but it's technically cancelled as well since the creator is dead from the internet

[rich palm]

Ah

[wide furnace]

why are you guys comparing hacks 😭

[wraith gust]

Yeah, we better not compare hacks

[rich palm]

Sorry

[stoic lava]

But he is right guys

This hack here is the best hack ever been made

[wide furnace]

not saying its bad to do so, but i dont like when people compare hacks or other stuff to know who's the best

i used to compare my own (gd) levels to those of other people, and it affected my mental state a bit, and also made me being a bit disliked by those people (until i stopped and everything went back to normal)

[rich palm]

I understand

[stoic lava]

But i always compare my hack to newest smb ds 😭

I cant do it anymore?! 😭 😭 😭 😭

[wraith gust]

Comparing hacks is not the best thing to do, as some people may not take it good and we're not competing for which hack is the best, most of us are modding this game just for fun

[wide furnace]

I think it should be a matter of surpassing ourselves, rather than surpassing others

[stoic lava]

Tbh, my hack is just me doing the levels that i wanted to see in mods, and im looking forward to finishing my hack since it's a game I'm making so I can play it myself lol, of course, I'll also publish it for other people to play, but the main intention is to make a game so I can play it too

[wraith gust]

I must confess that sometimes I feel bad because I feel my hack is not as great as other hacks here, but then I say to myself "Nah, I'm just exagerating" and continue working on it

[stoic lava]

Same lmfao

[wide furnace]

yeah lol that was why i used to do it too

[wide furnace]

honestly its good

[stoic lava]

I get like this more when I play the newer and see the level design lmfao

[wraith gust]

I think we're getting off topic and we're covering Illy's territory, let's move or something

[stoic lava]

Fr lol

[wide furnace]

yea

[onyx lantern]

I have nothing to say about my rom hack lol-

It's just...yeah

[stoic lava]

I liked your pfp

[onyx lantern]

Thx

[stoic lava]

Yw 😉

[fossil token]

fun fact

I feel like new++ is a shit hack and

that I could do so much stuff better

[stoic lava]

No its not

Its not a shit hack

This hack is even better than newer ds that was my favourite nsmbds hack for a long time, and now im hyped for this hack

Dont say that your hack is shitty again

[wraith gust]

What makes you think that New++ is a "shit" hack?

[fossil token]

i focus on all the flaws it has, it may seem perfect to u but all i can see is the imperfections

[wide furnace]

why do you keep saying bester 😭

[stoic lava]

I DIDNT NOTICED IT LMFAO

[wide furnace]

its not, i think its a very good hack, and fun to play

[stoic lava]

^

[wide furnace]

it seems to be very good to me, with fun level design, and a lot of effort put into it

i also myself feel like that stuff i made is goofy or stuff like that

[stoic lava]

Imo my entire hack is goofy lmfao

[wide furnace]

for example i feel like that most of my levels have way too much going on

[rich palm]

I think it looks very well put-together

People tend to be their own biggest critic when it comes to their works

[stoic lava]

Even better when swag rope bug

[rich palm]

Think of how much you've squeezed into a DS game

[vernal thicket]

well since your making basically like a whole game i think you dont really have to worry about every little individual part in it being perfect so long as the experience as a whole is fun and cohesive

[wraith gust]

You know, sometimes we tend to be very self-demanding

[vernal thicket]

youre

[rich palm]

New power-ups and bosses in a game that is infamously held together by mayonnaise and wishful thinking behind the scenes

[vernal thicket]

theres a fix for that btw

[rich palm]

Not to mention the Wii (U) and 3DS songs

[vernal thicket]

iirc

[rich palm]

I was jaw agape when I first heard that

[wide furnace]

yes

i dont really have an example, but it happens to me quite often as well

[stoic lava]

It happens to me with my level desing, i think that its really bad lol

It only have decorations, decorations and decorations to make it looks a little bit better

[wraith gust]

Y'all always say that your hacks are bad when I honestly think y'all are doing a great job

[stoic lava]

My autocorrector almost changed better to bester because i did one joke yesterday lmfao

[wraith gust]

We always focus on the imperfections while other people always see masterpieces

[stoic lava]

For some reason i think That even newest team levels are better than mine tbh

[wraith gust]

Really?

[fossil token]

I always think my levels are bad

[stoic lava]

The only decent level was the tank one because you don't even need to have good level design to make a tank level

[fossil token]

but like six months later i kinda like them

[stoic lava]

Yes

[stoic lava]

Imo your levels are good

[rich palm]

^

[stoic lava]

They have cool gimicks, have a good size, have cool stuff etc

[rich palm]

To me, Blue Basalt Bay and Parallel take the cake (I'm a sucker for the blue lava look)

[stoic lava]

The blue lava is peak

[rich palm]

There's always something to look at in your levels as well, be it tiling or neat new stuff

[wraith gust]

With me is the opposite, I feel like I did a great work with my levels and then like three weeks later I'm not happy with how they turned out, that's why I'm always tweaking my levels

[wide furnace]

they are very good imo

[stoic lava]

Today i replaced my lava with ✨ acid ✨

[wide furnace]

(except for that one jump 😭 #1208478549380431872 message)

[fossil token]

seccond half of w8 is blue lava lol

[wide furnace]

wth why did this appear?

[rich palm]

Nice

Also, the NSMB2 Bowser statues are cool

[wraith gust]

Lmao, da hell happened?

[stoic lava]

WAIT HOW YOU MADE THE PODOBOS FLIP?

[wide furnace]

idk lol

discord moment

[wide furnace]

lmao thats a public code hack

i have it if you want

[stoic lava]

I will use a acid podobo for my 5-2

[stoic lava]

Sent it, i would be gratefull 🙂

[wide furnace]

remind me about it when i use my pc please

[stoic lava]

Sure 😉

[fossil token]

its a newer code hack so its weird

ncp_call(0x02148214, 48)                              
     LDRB     R0,[R4,#0xD6]
     CMP     R0,#0xFF
     MOVEQ     R2,#0x2
     MOVNE     R2,#0x0
     MOV     R0,R4
     BX         LR


ncp_call(0x021480D0, 48)                              
    STMFD    SP!, {R1,LR}
    LDR    R1, [R4, #8]
    LSR    R1,R1,#0
    AND     R1, R1, #0xFF
    CMP     R1, #0
    STREQH     R0,[R3,#0xCA]
    LDMEQFD SP!, {R1,PC}
    CMP     R1, #1
    MOVGE     R0,#0x5
    STREQH     R0,[R3,#0xCA]
    LDMEQFD SP!, {R1,PC}
    MUL     R0, R1, R0
    STRH     R0, [R3,#0xCA]
    LDMFD     SP!, {R1,PC}

 
ncp_call(0x02147E1C, 48)
    STMFD     SP!, {R0,R1}
    LDR     R0, =0x2088BFC
    LDR     R0,[R0]
    CMP     R0,#0x7
    MOVEQ     R1,#0
    STREQB     R1, [R10,#0x4CE]
    STREQB     R1, [R10,#0x4D0]
    STREQB     R1, [R10,#0x4D2]
    LDMFD     SP!, {R0,R1}
    AND     R3, R4, #0xFF
    BX         LR
    
ncp_call(0x02147F14, 48)
    MOV     R4, R0
    LDR        R1, [R4, #8]
    LSR     R1, #0x8
    ANDS     R1, R1, #0xF
    BXEQ    LR
    MOV     R1, #0x8000
    LDR     R0, [R4, #0x60]
    ADD     R0, R1
    STR     R0, [R4, #0x60]
    BX      LR

ncp_call(0x02148688, 48)
    STMFD     SP!, {R1,R2}
    LDR     R0, =0x2088BFC
    LDR     R0,[R0]
    CMP     R0,#0x7
    LDR     R1,=0x216FCF0
    MOVNE     R2, #0x600
    ADDNE     R2, $154
    MOVEQ     R2, #0x600
    ADDEQ     R2, $0xac
    ADDEQ   R2, $0xff
    STR     R2, [R1]
    LDMFD     SP!, {R1,R2}
    MOV     R0,#0x15
    BX         LR

ncp_call(0x021481BC, 48)
    LDR     R0, =0x2088BFC
    LDR     R0,[R0]
    CMP     R0,#0x7
    MOVEQ     R0, #0x160
    ADDEQ     R0, R0, #0xD
    MOVNE     R0, #0x8C
    BX         LR
``` there is also a lava bubble retexture code somewhere in there but I do now remember how it works

and if you need a lava retexture https://discord.com/channels/399424476259024897/1207879617533186088

[wide furnace]

i have the one from the code hacks thread (misc parches thread)

[fossil token]

newer had the retexture so I used theirs

[stoic lava]

You have the code for big bombs from newer ds on ncp? If yes you could sent it?

[wide furnace]

ohh alr

[stoic lava]

Also later i will convert the boss bg song fixe

[wide furnace]

wait did they even use the retexture?

[fossil token]

those are so buggy

I dont have it

[stoic lava]

Ohhh oki

[wide furnace]

yes i have it

[fossil token]

they made cloud podabos

[wide furnace]

i don't remember at all...

i'll try looking for videos online to see the level theyre in

[fossil token]

they were used like once lol

[stoic lava]

Yeah lol

[wide furnace]

yeah that's probably why lol
(why is the keyboard too small on mobile :p)

[stoic lava]

Only one level

[wraith gust]

You mean these cloudy podoboos?

[rich palm]

They look mildly upset

[wide furnace]

jpg64 remind me tomorrow so i can send the goomba code

[rich palm]

I wonder if Mario can fireball them bc air

[wide furnace]

might be incompatible with the shy guys tho

[fossil token]

they are incompatible

[stoic lava]

Why my podobo is purple

[wide furnace]

i remember about the level they're in but not themselves lol

[wide furnace]

dang :/

[stoic lava]

Well, im going to make it green

[wide furnace]

wrong palette?

[stoic lava]

Its the correct one

[wide furnace]

well maybe you broke something?

[stoic lava]

Maybe

[rich palm]

What software are you using?

[wide furnace]

nsmbe

[rich palm]

You can edit sprites in nsmbe?

[stoic lava]

Yeah

For models i use maya

[rich palm]

Noted

[fossil token]

I want to release a demo but at the same Thile I feel like people will start building hacks off it and complain about bugs and such

It’s a hard choice lol

I was thinking it would be fun to release one when I get to 1000 subs on YouTube

[rapid bramble]

Encrypt the shit outta the rom

[stoic lava]

Lock the rom

[rich palm]

It's possible to do that?

[stoic lava]

Yeah

I will do it

[stoic lava]

In my hack i mean

[fossil token]

since im getting discharged later today I am so tempted to spend like 12 hours grinding out some stuff for new++ tonight

[vernal thicket]

nice

[wraith gust]

Noice

[tepid temple]

12 hours?? that would put me right back in a psych ward 💀

[fossil token]

but adhd and hype fixations lol

[wraith gust]

Two weeks ago I spent 14 hours in a row just making a level

[tepid temple]

actually I've probably done the same now that I think about it

[stoic lava]

Nah it dont worth it 💀

[fossil token]

I wouldnt mind being here for another week, that way I can skip exams lol

[stoic lava]

Lmaooo

From that point of view, it's good

[wraith gust]

If I was in a psych ward there wouldn't be any difference from my actual life tbh

[stoic lava]

Same

But my house is better than a psych ward or than those 2 days after my bday in 2019

[fossil token]

the only difference is we can bearly use tec in here

[stoic lava]

Wich imo is stupid

If you have it, you have the rights to use it

[wraith gust]

I thought you weren't allowed to use technology in psych wards

[fossil token]

and im not even alowed to use my phone anymore because I became friends with a trans guy and the head nurse is a transphobe lol

[fossil token]

in this one we are

so I was lucky

[stoic lava]

Buhhhhhh

[wraith gust]

Lmao XD

[stoic lava]

I think that in some situations that they dont let people use tec, i mean, for the reason that the person is there

[wide furnace]

relatable. i sometimes stay up until 4 am working on stuff lol

[wide furnace]

discord on pc laughing in the corner

[rich palm]

Fuck the head nurse in particular

Hope all will look up for you eventually

[fossil token]

well im being discharged in half an hour

[stoic lava]

Sorry for the question, what discarged mean?

[fossil token]

type, I ment discharged

[stoic lava]

Ohh oki

[wide furnace]

alright

[fossil token]

I’m free now

[wraith gust]

Lessgoo

[fossil token]

I dont think im going to make w4 a desert or have a desert world in new++ at all

I dont really have any insperation or ways to make it unique, instead im thinking of doing something like twilight town from ttyd

Im thinking of drawing a tile set like the painted pipelands one in nsmbu and making a background with houses and dead trees

[vernal thicket]

oh yeah youve been playing the ttyd remake right

how is it

[fossil token]

way better than the original

[vernal thicket]

nice

[fossil token]

im going for an abstaract look inspierd by twilight town

I am making the draft tiles then ill scale them down and touch them up and see how they look in game

I think this will work out

[rich palm]

Is it weird that the circles give me Boggly Tree vibes?

[fossil token]

I guess the leaf patterns are similar to circles so not really

[fossil token]

now I just need a backround

I think the tile set turned out pretty well even though its still unfinished

[rich palm]

Perhaps a gradient similar to the 2nd image could work as a bottom background layer

That with the Moon

[stoic lava]

Looks cool imo

[rich palm]

^^^

[wide furnace]

reminds me of some backgrounds in earthbound for some reason

[mortal arrow]

I don't know why it gives me a strange aura

anyways look really cool

[fossil token]

its coming along

[wraith gust]

Noice, I like it

[stoic lava]

Wich world will be this?

World 4 or world 6?

[fossil token]

4

[stoic lava]

Ohhh good

[fossil token]

i think im gonna remove the bushes from the bg

it looks to alive

yeah thats looking much better now

[vernal thicket]

the aesthetic is quite cool but its sorta hard to make out the level

with both the fg and bg being dark red n all

[wide furnace]

oh cool!!

[stoic lava]

This bg is similar to my sky bg tree bg, do you care about it?

Its some trees with star fruits

[wide furnace]

there's a background like that in the vanilla game anyway

[wraith gust]

Yeah, it's literally the "Ghost House Exit" BG but modified

Tho, this one looks really cool

[wide furnace]

yea

[stoic lava]

Yeah

[stoic lava]

I drawed only the stars on mine and changed the colors

[fossil token]

I now have slopes and some deco so I can finnaly start making a level

[onyx lantern]

spoopy

[fossil token]

something feels off about this level when I play it

[vernal thicket]

my only guess would be things are placed in a rather close way that makes them feel strange

tho without seeing it in game im not sure

even then im not sure if thats whats causing it specifically

[wide furnace]

nice!

i would suggest turning the green parts of plants into red, to match the ground color

[fossil token]

here is how it turned out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGOlERj6eXA

[rich palm]

It looks very good! Weirdly enough, I forgot you added the mid-air twirl until Mario first used it in the video

Will more levels have Red Star sections?

[fossil token]

yeah, mainly in bonus rooms though, its kinda like mega mario or a star

[rich palm]

Can't wait to see those

[onyx lantern]

I have a question, how difficult do you think it is to control flying mario in your rom?

Saying it in case I struggle with it

[fossil token]

You hold the direction that you want to travle

the players velocity.y is set to 0 so you will barely be affected by gravity causing you to slowly fall when flight is active, the only hard part is that if you press down you ground pound so you have to hold a direction and down than release the direction key to travel down

[fossil token]

im gonna star making the actaul twilight town level

im drawing the house tiles

well shack I should say

and im thinking of adding the villagers as a passive entity that act as springs if you jump on them

[fossil token]

I got house tiles here is an example

now I need villagers

what do yall think of this

im gonna need to some how remodel the doors so you can enter the houses

it looks pretty good in game

[wide furnace]

either use tileset 40 (ghost house secret exit) and edit the exit related to it, or write a code hack for that. also newerds made a code hack for that

[fossil token]

bro be watching

the idea is that they are gonna bounce you up, the up draft is temporary as its much easier to do lol

[wide furnace]

interesting

[fossil token]

hmm maybe they will just be there for aesthetic

thats probs the best use of them

[wide furnace]

oh alright then

[fossil token]

the level is going well so far

I think ill program the pigs tmr because they are gonna be the enemy of the level

[stoic lava]

Yooooooo looks cool!!!!

Btw i will animate the mecha koopa rn, when i finish the animations i sent it to you on DMs

[fossil token]

take ur time

I have exams this week so im not gonna really have much time

and since i have been in the psych ward I have a lot of content to catch up on

[stoic lava]

Sure 😉
Mecha koopas are really easy to animate tho

[stoic lava]

Ohhh

[tepid temple]

really like the aesthetic

[fossil token]

literally all of it is hand drawn the tile set is so messy though

I still havnt finished setting up all the tiles

[wide furnace]

thats good, especially for hand-drawn stuff

[onyx lantern]

This is literally bout to be my fav world right here

[wraith gust]

This looks neat and interesting, I like it

[rich palm]

Looks very good!

[rich palm]

Random and kinda stupidly obvious suggestion: what if he used his own theme from the game for one of them?

[fossil token]

go ahed, im not using it anymore to save on some file size

[fossil token]

I have an idea about how I could make levels able to use multiple checkpoints, I might try programming it tmr

[wide furnace]

oh nice

[stoic lava]

Wait the small enemies that mario jump on the video arent tileset parts?

[stoic lava]

Those i mean

Oh double ping sorry

[fossil token]

they are not enemies, they are just villagers

and yes, they are an actor

[stoic lava]

Ohhhh

[wraith gust]

But are they harmful or they just bounce you up?

[fossil token]

they are passive and currently do nothing

I need to make it so you can jump of them though

[fossil token]

this is how they are gonna work

[wide furnace]

oh thats nice

[wraith gust]

Nice

[wide furnace]

they have that "paper" feel, like in the original game

by that i mean that the animation fits

[stoic lava]

Ohhhhh its cool

[fossil token]

yeah I still need to make their texture, its like the ninjis, they were from paper mario colour splash than I upgraded them to fit the nsmb style, I still gotta do it with those guys

[wide furnace]

alright

[fossil token]

I did a lot of studying for exams so im gonna make some level for a bit

based on jumping on villager heads and those houses lol

[fossil token]

im tempted to give the one hiding down here a text box saying "fuck off" but I would have to impliment a whole system for that

[rich palm]

Maybe improvise and write it in coins or small tiles?

[wide furnace]

why are you putting swears in a mario rom hack 😭

[stoic lava]

B3313:

[wide furnace]

lmao

[stoic lava]

B3313 creator loves "fuck"

Since every single map have it

Some you cant see

And others you can

But all the maps have it

[wide furnace]

not every single one

wait really?

[stoic lava]

Yeah

[wide furnace]

dang lol

[stoic lava]

Yesterday i added a sun outside the w3 map lol

(Acidentally, since it would be for the bg)

[fossil token]

I just spent 10 min setting up a connected pipe

I hate those things with a passion

[wraith gust]

Connected pipes are really annoying imo, I always take a look at NSMBHD's wiki because I forget how they are set up

[fossil token]

yeah I always look at 7-a

then I forget that u need th change one of the path setting to make sure mario faces the right direction and shit

[wraith gust]

That seems more painful

[fossil token]

do u ever just think, what the hell am I making?

[onyx lantern]

A level

[wide furnace]

same

[wide furnace]

sometimes yea

[wraith gust]

I happened to me a couple of times

[fossil token]

im working on 5- and the broozer boss and boolosuss share some code iirc so, boolosuss' music plays for the intro animation of the boss broozer

hmm it doesnt look like they do

[wide furnace]

oh alright, so you're trying to fix it?

[fossil token]

music problem fixed

and I found this cursed bug were the boss clips into the wall

I gotta rewrite all these bosses, I can code them so much better than I did

[wide furnace]

alright

[stoic lava]

Ohh his eye is red, now that i noticed it

[fossil token]

im trying to record the level and I have died twice while I am 5+ min into the recording

this is annoying af

[wraith gust]

Relatable, lmao

[fossil token]

omfg the time I did the whole level for some reason it was recording discord even though I didnt even have discord open

[fossil token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2_yHXgjx1Y

[wraith gust]

Nice level as always

The Ghost house theme is a bit depressing imo tho

But it's good

[fossil token]

im a fnaf fan lol, the music give me so much nostalgia

[tepid temple]

not really feeling the music but I also haven't played fnaf tbf

good level regardless

[rich palm]

Did not recognise the music until I looked in the comments

It's very melancholic

[stoic lava]

I love fnaf too

[rapid bramble]

cool usage of toon shading for the checkpoint effect

[fossil token]

JPG64 did it for me

I think it works well but it might be a bit to strong

[wide furnace]

nice level!

[wide furnace]

imo it feels more "desolate" than traditional mario ghost house music, which in a way, works well

[fossil token]

bros a hater

I responded with this "Ok then, Whats bad about the qaulity and how can I improve the graphics?"

whats the bet he wont answer lol

[stoic lava]

hey someone is jealous!!

[wide furnace]

this comment doesn't feel honest at all lmao 😭

[stoic lava]

I just have one thing to say:
This comment is fake, and the game is good

[fossil token]

I love ur response lol

Well im debating if I should play Minecraft or work on new++

[stoic lava]

I love playing minecraft lol (i have a 2x2 house in it lmfao)

[fossil token]

dang my world is nearly five years old

I havnt played much in the past two years bc I have been playing mainly java edition and a mod pack called Vault Hunters

but time to boot up my bedrock world and play in my longterm world

[stoic lava]

Ohhhh i already played it iirc

[stoic lava]

(Its fun and games until a creeper blow it up)

[wraith gust]

I'd say go ahead and play Minecraft, you work so hard on this hack and spend a lot of hours and dedication into it that you should ocasionally take a break, you deserve it

I should actually do the same :P

[wide furnace]

holy. usually i almost never play anymore worlds like that. i probably have 2 of them that are this old (probably more but they are on my old half-broken computer and i gotta copy them but i dont have the charger for it)

seems like a good idea to play minecraft tho

[fossil token]

I got bored of minecraft 1.21, Ii doesnt really add anything to the game for me so back to working on new++ and other crap

[fossil token]

Bro didn’t even wander the question lol

[rich palm]

Is that dude missing a few thousand braincells?

I think your work is pretty stunning for a DS game

[wraith gust]

Seems like the kind of guy who only cares about the graphics when playing videogames

It appears to me that this guy is hating for no reason at all

[wide furnace]

its the kind of people to hate minecraft because of the "bad graphics"

[fossil token]

tbh I like messing with people like that sometimes, its funny watching people not give any reason or evidence for their opinions

also i was messing around with door remodels and managed to get some code working to remodel evend activated ones when they are not in their open state

so some progress I guess

I think im going to rip the dead tree model from w8 and for my actor for large 3d objects

so the actors is going to be for stuff like beach huts and stuff in the beach world to shave a shit tone of tile set space and have a clean looking 3d model instead

if I decide to do a level based on thoughs

[wide furnace]

oh nice! does the wooden door have its separate animation tho?

[wide furnace]

oh thats nice

[fossil token]

not yet

[wide furnace]

oh alr. do you think it's possible to do so?

[fossil token]

it should be

[stoic lava]

I really want to punch this person to see if his brain works again

[wraith gust]

I think you are becoming unnecessarily aggressive

[stoic lava]

[rich palm]

It's not murder if there's no body! /lh /j /please don't arrest me

[wide furnace]

you mean "nobody", right? RIGHT??

[fossil token]

Im gonna finally code in the beach huts from nsmbu

I hope these textures will be ok

[wide furnace]

is the front layer gonna become transparent when you go in the hut?

[fossil token]

yeah, its opacity is going to fade to 0

[wide furnace]

alright

[fossil token]

then im thinking of using tiles instead of loading collision because why not and its probably more efficient

[wide furnace]

might be easier to do with tiles, yea

[fossil token]

and I dont even know if nsmb has solid trapezium colliders

[wide furnace]

might be buggy if it exists, idk

[rapid bramble]

nope it doesn't

[fossil token]

it looks alright being 2d

I might get somebody to make it 3d for me in the future

[stoic lava]

Yeah it looks cool

You could make it layered

[fossil token]

maybe, whats importent is getting the actor working

the graphics can come after

[stoic lava]

Yeah fr

[fossil token]

my desktop is getting messy lol

not that bad tbh

[stoic lava]

Nah my one that is lmao, my one theres no work area, its flooded with random programs and folders

[fossil token]

i have a system, that works for me that makes sense to nobody, its one of the fun things about having ASD and ADHD

nobody gets u but everything makes sense to u

[stoic lava]

Same lol

[fossil token]

its a little baby beach hut

[stoic lava]

Lmaooooo its for mini mario fr

[fossil token]

could be cool for a mini bonus room lol

[stoic lava]

Fr

It would work also for secrets

[fossil token]

I think this is a good scale

its not acurate to nsmbu but it feels like its a good size for nsmbds

[stoic lava]

Yeah its good

On nsmbu i always think that they are big

[fossil token]

actauly they need to be a lil bit bigger so it doesnt look like mario is floating when he stantds on the tiles that will be behinde it

[stoic lava]

Ohhh

[wraith gust]

I'm using a tileset in my hack that has these, maybe you could try making them 128x112 in size?

[fossil token]

I think they are about that size

can you send a screen shot of them in your hack with some blocks for reffrance please?

[wraith gust]

Sure

Here

Screenshot of map16 with grid enabled

[wide furnace]

just like mine lol

[wide furnace]

i think i can somewhat relate. i put stuff together because for me they fit together even tho they don't necessarily do

even worse with gd triggers, i just place them and dont organize them at all. and then i come back several months later and im kinda confused lol

[wide furnace]

oh cool!!

[fossil token]

progress

chaninging its alpha during runtime is kinda weird

[wide furnace]

pulse trigger

[fossil token]

lol

this aint electrodynamix

[wraith gust]

Are you planning on recreate the NSMBWii/U system where you can go through walls n stuff?

[fossil token]

nope

this is just two models and the one on top fades when you are in the hut

[wide furnace]

do you plan to put stuff like enemies or question blocks in the huts or not?

[fossil token]

maybe

it has to be 3d models inside though

[stoic lava]

Its easy to recreate with idk

🤓

[wide furnace]

yea thats why i was asking

[wide furnace]

i mean you could theoretically use the same code and placing a model with the ground texture that has the exact size you need, and/or duplicate it to fill the "inside" of the ground, but yea no seems complicated

[fossil token]

I should be able to put 10 coins and stuff inside

[wide furnace]

alright

the thing is that (correct me if im wrong) anything that is 2d will go either behind or in front of the 2 layers of the huts, not in-between

[fossil token]

yeah

[fossil token]

now all I need is to make the huts look better

but thats a future me problem

[wide furnace]

isnt mario supposed to go behind the higher layer of the hut?

[wraith gust]

||Now I wont be able to use my hut tileset bc I will be accused of stealing ideas 😭 ||

[wide furnace]

lmaoo

[wraith gust]

Jokes aside, the huts look fine to me, what's wrong with them?

[wide furnace]

i think its good tho

too pixelated maybe?

[fossil token]

i need a trapezium collider to fix it, so when tacco has time to explain it ill fix it

[wide furnace]

alright

but what does it have to do with z-axis priority?

[fossil token]

lmao, so many people use them

[fossil token]

when the player is in this area the model changes

[wide furnace]

oh alright

[tepid temple]

shouldn't you make it a platform?

as opposed to a typical collider

[wide furnace]

but like, here mario is in front of the hut, while in "layer 0" stuff from nsmbwii/u, mario and other stuff would appear behind it

[fossil token]

thats just the way I have made it, the front layer is still fading out in that screenshot

[tepid temple]

||why do you always hide your messages 😭||

[wide furnace]

alright

[fossil token]

I was thinking that but I dont think it would work out, I should still give it a try though

[wraith gust]

Tbf, I haven't seen any other hacks using it (or maybe I haven't seen enough NSMB hacks?)

[wraith gust]

||Idk 😔 ||

[fossil token]

I got a study period so im gonna do some work on 3-1 instead of studying

[wide furnace]

relatable

i always study last minute

(when i do study)

[fossil token]

progress, I ended up studying because I had to fix some bugs and I couldnt be bothered doing it earlier

[wide furnace]

[tepid temple]

Nice

[wraith gust]

Noice

[fossil token]

I still feel that the beach aesthetic is missing something

[wide furnace]

not sure what because it felt the same way for me in mario games in general

[fossil token]

I think its because dont have enough decorations such as bushes and flowers

[wide furnace]

except mario wonder beach levels

[wraith gust]

I was gonna suggest that

[wide furnace]

probably

[fossil token]

yeah, I gotta write the actor for them still

[wraith gust]

Are you using the NSMBU beach tileset from TRS thread right?

[fossil token]

yeah

[wraith gust]

Ah ok

Yeah, that tileset doesn't have any other deco besides the beach palms

[fossil token]

Mainly because it has all the sand slopes which I would never set up myself

Im thinking of adding actaul animated flowers and stuff

[wraith gust]

Actor?

So you'd like to write code for decoration actors?

[fossil token]

yeah, save tileset space

[wraith gust]

You know, you could just copy paste them from TRS tileset, much easier

[fossil token]

I plan on using one actor for all of them

[wraith gust]

Ah ok, that sounds cool

[fossil token]

but then I cant do fancy stuff such as making flowers animated and hiding mushrooms in bushes like smw

[wraith gust]

Fair enough

[fossil token]

there is a lot of stuff I could strip down but I dont feel like it

[wraith gust]

I can probably see a bunch of ways of saving tiles here, but it's ok if you don't feel like it

[fossil token]

the hard thing is that both tile sets have to be identical if I plan on switching between them during run time like I want to in one level

[wraith gust]

Yeah, otherwise you'd have to retile the levels you made and that's ass

[wide furnace]

no its even worse

the graphics are what get changed i think

[fossil token]

yeah

[wraith gust]

Oh, kinda like that thing you did with that castle tileset ages ago?

[fossil token]

remember I showed off the conspet for it fliping with the castle tileset

[fossil token]

yeah

I still got that code as a massive comment sitting on my player hooks file lol

I plan on making things such as wind all into one actor instead of the weird hard coded mess they are now

[wide furnace]

the wind from newer ds?

or a new one you made?

[stoic lava]

Yo it looks cool

[fossil token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shuXeAC4g_w

[stoic lava]

You have the code for this wind?

[wide furnace]

oh alright

[stoic lava]

I would use it for 3-2 tbh

[wide furnace]

jpg64 stealing code again

are you still gonna use the level for the hack or not?

[wraith gust]

JPG: CODE HACKS? WHERE?!!! ME COLLECT THEM ALL!!!!

[stoic lava]

LMFAO

[fossil token]

yeah but its a hardcoded mess

[wide furnace]

lmao

[fossil token]

Im the programmer for sakura smb at this point lol

give me a role on ur server JPG64

[wide furnace]

yea lol

[fossil token]

/j

[wraith gust]

Illy official programmer for Sakura SMB confirmed

[fossil token]

Well JPG64 is literally my modeler lol

[wraith gust]

It's a give/get lol

[wide furnace]

you're right lol

[stoic lava]

Almost every old template code gets converted to ncpatcher: ahsidjws
Me: proceds to patch a bunch of random stuff in the mod

[wide furnace]

lmao

[fossil token]

I have some copys of sakura smb and all of its code on my device lol

im the only person besides JPG64 who has it

[wide furnace]

honestly if it wasnt thanks to you who asked repeatedly for help to convert the patches to the new template, i would have probably still used the old template, so thanks (i thought it was insanely hard, even for the asm ones)

[wraith gust]

Lol?

[wide furnace]

no im serious

[stoic lava]

N~~ew~~cpatcher is the best code patcher that has ever released, btw yw 🙂

[wraith gust]

Yeah, I know, it's just that comment was somewhat funny, lol

[wide furnace]

oh ok

[stoic lava]

(I added this new because its new but it inst the name)

[fossil token]

Fire flower was pretty good too

but ncp is better

[stoic lava]

Oh talking about this, im still trying to get the Bones working on fingore for the hand animations, i already managed to add the bones but i need to make the meshes dont get broken when moving the fingers

[fossil token]

Also if any of u working on hacks ever need code for something, I probably already have it or can code it really easily so feel free to ask

[wide furnace]

alright

the thing is that i either have ideas for very specific stuff or no ideas

[stoic lava]

Fr, ncpather (different from the old template) it doesn't have those extremely stupid errors in arm9 and also in gcc (that DevKitArm program)

[wide furnace]

the only simple idea i have is animated tiles

[fossil token]

its fine tbh, I plan on coding more bosses when I get jaw surgery to fix my overbite and have my wisdom teeth removed because I will be out of action for like four weeks

[wide furnace]

(complicated ones include a whole bossfight)

[fossil token]

thats like the only thing I cant do lol

[wide furnace]

dang lol

its alright tho

[stoic lava]

The animated tiles is one of the codes that dirbaio didn't wanted to predict the future to make it in asm instead of C++ 😢😥

[wraith gust]

Unrelated, but I'm sure this hack will feature Yoshi and a World 9 in a future, I bet

[fossil token]

u read my mind :3

[wide furnace]

lmao

[stoic lava]

Yoshi idk, but world 9 i really think that she will add

[wraith gust]

:3

[fossil token]

nah 8- is gonna teleport you to some area which is a whole world

[wide furnace]

also the koopalings and 8 players multiplayer

[wide furnace]

oh thats nice

[stoic lava]

Koopalings would be nice on new++ tbh

[wraith gust]

And 5 more playable characters

[fossil token]

I mentoned the whole bowser jrs dimension thing and dimensonal colapses and multiple endings already

[wide furnace]

you said that it was some sort of "custom scene" tho, is it gonna be in 2d or smth?

[fossil token]

if somebody gives me the models and animations ill do it

[wide furnace]

jpg64, do your thing

[stoic lava]

It would be fire tbh

A 3d bossfight in nsmbds

[fossil token]

I would make them all the same actor but you can change how they work with their settings

[wraith gust]

She already ported the Koopalings behavior to Bowser Jr. I'm sure she will be able to implement Koopalings too

[fossil token]

and change the model

[stoic lava]

Yeah

[wide furnace]

could be very cool

[stoic lava]

Fr

[fossil token]

somebody give me the models lol

I wont have to mess with bowser jrs code any more

[wraith gust]

I think you can find them on The Models Resources, correct me if I'm wrong

[fossil token]

I wont need this file anymore lol

[fossil token]

they can be ripped from nsmb2

thats the easiest way

[stoic lava]

I could later port the nsmb2 koopaling models with the armature for nsmbds, it would be a bit hard but really doable

[rapid bramble]

bars

[stoic lava]

Nya

[fossil token]

its shit code

[rapid bramble]

btw i'm pretty sure there are functions for these in the reference somewhere

[wraith gust]

Nya :3 0w0

[stoic lava]

LMFAO

[fossil token]

some of that code dates back two years or so lol, I didnt know what I was doing back then

[stoic lava]

(Me when nsmbds tileset dont Pa0_OhFuckIHopeItWorks)

[wraith gust]

Swag

[fossil token]

#show-off-your-projects message

[fossil token]

setting up all the sound files will also be a paint though

[stoic lava]

Yoooo i didn't know this channel

[rapid bramble]

what the helll i remember sending these messages felt like yesterday

[fossil token]

same

[rapid bramble]

ong i forgot you have been active here for quite some time now

[fossil token]

i took like an eight month break so yeah

[wraith gust]

The old version of NSMB showcase I guess

[stoic lava]

Ohhhh

[rapid bramble]

yeah makes sense

[fossil token]

oh I just rememberd my first message with that bright pink plastic looking newer wii tile set lol

[stoic lava]

Lmao

[rapid bramble]

did you go by another nickname or smth

[fossil token]

#show-off-your-projects message

Yeah, Illy is the end of my greak name and the middle letters of William

[stoic lava]

Sakura authum 😱

[rapid bramble]

i see

[stoic lava]

What greak name means (sorry if im being dumb lmfao)

[fossil token]

My name in greek

[stoic lava]

Ohhh oki

[wraith gust]

Dude, reading old messages is fun, da hell

[vernal thicket]

did you use to have a bowser jr pfp by chance

[stoic lava]

#lsmb message
......

[fossil token]

Βασι'λης

[wide furnace]

i think so, at least on youtube

[fossil token]

yeah on youtube

[wide furnace]

i subscribed to your channel before joining the server i think

[stoic lava]

I dont like this message that i sent, its cringe 😭

[vernal thicket]

ah

[fossil token]

my pfp was my cat, cleo

[fossil token]

yeah u did

[vernal thicket]

so youre that fella

[wide furnace]

alr

[fossil token]

those days were that dead era of nsmb hacking

[wide furnace]

what error?

[fossil token]

before is started to bounce back a bit

like 2022

[vernal thicket]

era

[wide furnace]

oh ok

i dont remember why i randomly came back to the hacking scene (not the server), but i did

i joined the server because i needed help with code hacks tho

[fossil token]

I never said error I said era :3

[wraith gust]

Optical illusion

[stoic lava]

Fr, i can confirm

[wide furnace]

me bliend

[fossil token]

see I totally did

[wraith gust]

100% real no fake

[stoic lava]

!1!1!

[wide furnace]

lmao

[fossil token]

Dyno is lying

dont trust him

[wide furnace]

dyno is stupid

[stoic lava]

Lets Dyno

(Real)

[fossil token]

when ndy fixes luigi bot

[wide furnace]

luigi bot used to have message logs?

[fossil token]

yeah we only added dyno a month ago mainly because of loopgaming iirc

[stoic lava]

We've been wainting for luigi bot 2.0 for years.... it never came out.....

[wide furnace]

oh ok

[stoic lava]

Luigi bot 2.0 is a lie..... 😭

[wide furnace]

coming soon™️

like 2.2

[wraith gust]

Luigi bot 2.0 are the friends we made along the way

[wide furnace]

lol

[stoic lava]

Wise words man.... wise words

[fossil token]

I got double math in a few min

eww

well not eww

but I dont feel like it today

[wide furnace]

evw

[wide furnace]

dang :/

[wraith gust]

Well, I should have left my house already

Bye guys, take care y'all

[stoic lava]

Guess who change the pfp again?

[wide furnace]

cya

[wide furnace]

idk

[stoic lava]

See ya

I change my pfp almost every moth lmfao

[fossil token]

well we are going through exams I didnt sit

[wide furnace]

dang

[fossil token]

flowers

so this actor is gonna be used for extra decorations

[wraith gust]

Noice

[wide furnace]

nice!!

[wraith gust]

But I think the flowers should be tilting rather than pulsating

[wide furnace]

can you make they bounce/pulse whenever there's "bah"s? or would that be too complicated? because it seems complicated

[stoic lava]

Cool!

[rich palm]

What emulator is that?

[wraith gust]

DesMume

[fossil token]

this is what the flowers are looking like, they rotate a tiny bit and it becomes more visible when you scale the game up

also the freezes are when I am scaling it up

[wraith gust]

Looking good so far

[fossil token]

now I need to make more decorations

using the same actor of course

[wraith gust]

Do you plan on making multiple animated tile actors per world or something?

[fossil token]

ill explain how it works

so this is the main bit of code

     FS::Cache::loadFile(2195 - 131, false);
     FS::Cache::loadFile(2196 - 131, false);
     FS::Cache::loadFile(2197 - 131, false);

     return 1;
}

 
s32 Decoration::onCreate(){
    void* decomodel = FS::Cache::loadFile(2195+(this->settings>>0 & 0xf) - 131, false);

    model.create(decomodel, 0, 0, 0, 0);

    Decoration::codeAnimTimer = 0;
    fogFlag = false;
    alpha = 0xff;
    renderOffset = {0, 0};
    rotationTranslation = {0, 0};
    this->scale = {0x500, 0x500, 0x1000};
    this->position.x += 0x5000;
    this->position.y -= 0x10000;



    activeCollider.init(this, activeColliderInfo, 0);
    activeCollider.shape = ActiveCollider::Shape::Round;
    activeCollider.link();

    return 1;

}

void Decoration::codeAnim(){
    Decoration::codeAnimTimer++;
    if(Decoration::codeAnimTimer < 30){
        this->rotation.x -= 16;

    }
    if(Decoration::codeAnimTimer > 30){
        this->rotation.x += 16;
    }
    if(Decoration::codeAnimTimer == 60){
        Decoration::codeAnimTimer = 0;
    }


}

bool Decoration::updateMain(){
    Decoration::codeAnim();
    return true;      
}```

I plan on being able to switch between eight diffrent graphics or so with this actor

three of those being the flower

ill add a few other code anim such as bobing and whatever which will be able to be turned on and off

[wraith gust]

Interesting

[tepid temple]

you shouldn't need to access your class variables like class::variable, you can just use variable

also alpha is between 0 and 31, not 255

[fossil token]

yeah I relized, taco had it set to 255 on the template he sent me

[tepid temple]

and another thing (sorry), you should use FS::Cache::getFile() in onCreate

cause you already loaded it in loadResources

[fossil token]

ok

its so nice being able to layer theese assets

and not having to worry about having a tile if you want to do that

[rapid bramble]

yeah mistake on my side

also please use fx for position/scale/etc.

[fossil token]

how come?

[tepid temple]

easier to manage imo

1.0fx is 0x1000

[fossil token]

ahh ok

any technical reasons?

[rapid bramble]

it is true that both are valid, in fact fx32 aliases s32; but it's way more convenient and correct as you assign to it the actual fixed point value and not its hex representation

you would not set floating point numbers with hex (excluding rare specific cases) for the same reason

[fossil token]

ahh ok

[rapid bramble]

adding another example, for the same reason one writes angles with _deg or _rad and so on

[wide furnace]

thats nice!!

[fossil token]

the annoying thing about custom actors is not having them render in game

[vernal thicket]

do you mean in the editor

[wide furnace]

kinda sad yea

[fossil token]

yeah the editor

[stoic lava]

Oh fr they dont have

Yeah its sad

[tepid temple]

you can write a plugin to allow that I believe

haven't tried myself

[fossil token]

yeah

[wraith gust]

Imaginary hut

[fossil token]

its so nice being able to stack decorations

[wide furnace]

oh you did the same for barriers/fences , nice

[wraith gust]

Much better than having to take unnecessary tileset space

[wide furnace]

yea

[stoic lava]

Fr, i really wanted at least double layers in smw

[wide furnace]

smw

[stoic lava]

Nsmbds**

[fossil token]

yeah I got this whole folder set up for that actor

[stoic lava]

Thats whats happens when i add 2 nsmbds enemy to smw

[wide furnace]

isnt that the opposite?

[stoic lava]

Lmfao i messed every word again

[wide furnace]

alright. so 5 textures for now

is the hut one of those 5?

[stoic lava]

But i really wanted that nintendo added at least 2 layers for tilesets in nsmb2 tbh, it would be better for modding

What the hell is happening to me?!

Nsmbds***

[wide furnace]

lmao

[fossil token]

no, thats a diffrent actor

[wide furnace]

oh alr

[stoic lava]

Why some folders/files are called dummy? Ive saw some in newer ds but i never got it

Or its just for dont need to add big names to stuff?

Or test stuff

Since dummies are used for test

[stoic lava]

Ohhhhhh

[wide furnace]

its so you can replace it later without messing up the file ids

for files i mean

its basically a placeholder

[fossil token]

I spent like an hour debuging a problem with the beach huts

I had some code in BeachHut::activeCallback that I shouldnt of had there

[fossil token]

I accidently recreated the 1-4 bonus room

[wide furnace]

lol how can you accidentally do that

[fossil token]

I wanted to make a bonus room about running on water

[rich palm]

Maybe include some water height changes and floating obstacles?

[fossil token]

its fine tbh

the best part is that this bonus room can be exploited for infinite lives/coins

[wide furnace]

i mean if you wanna waste your time doing this you can (unless the hack becomes extremely difficult at some point, in this case that could come in handy)

[stoic lava]

My hack is a bit unfair in the dificult lol

Like the 2-3 that im currently doing, if you dont think correctly you get hit by a torpedo, and theres a lot of torpedos comming from random ways in the level, making it a bit hard, also 2-ship is a bit hard too

[wraith gust]

Have you thought about a bonus room where you have to perform multiple spin jumps with mini Mario/Luigi? I tested it and you can get much further, maybe you wanna take advantage of that

Just a suggestion though

[fossil token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBULd-nVZac this level took ages to make

[wide furnace]

I like it!! it looks fun

thought i think you should probably increase the timer a bit

[wraith gust]

Somehow I feel the 10, 50 coins need spinning animations and some particles after collected (like shinning sparks or something)

Also, what's up with these?

[wide furnace]

i wanted to send it but i forgot

[wraith gust]

Otherwise, fun and very well designed level as always

[wraith gust]

I was faster for the first time

[wide furnace]

i guess lol

[fossil token]

the checkpoints are ment to give 150 in game secconds when collected but it was causing a crash somehow

[fossil token]

I actually cant see it, probably just me being colour blind, ill fix it at some point

[fossil token]

that was the plan, but I couldnt make the coins 3d because my modeling skills are ass. so they are 2d

[wide furnace]

oh alright

[wide furnace]

yeah i thought this could be the issue so thats why i preferred circling the wrong pixels

[fossil token]

Im redrawing it to make sure it doesnt get messed up

thats the progress so far

[wide furnace]

the top is yellow

like, the top of the vines

[wraith gust]

What about ripping the ones from Super Mario Maker 2?

[fossil token]

the thing is, there is only like three greens on my jyotyu palate

[stoic lava]

I can make 3d coins for u if you want

They are 10, 30 and 50, right?

[wide furnace]

and 100

[stoic lava]

Ohh oki

[fossil token]

Im gonna spend some time polishing things like black bowser jr for the demo

[fossil token]

lol I just relised that jrs spike balls can be killied with a ground pound as they are created with actor::spawnactor

ok the intro scene is in a much beter state but its still not done

I have already spent an hour and a half on that

[rapid bramble]

have you ever tested your mod on real hardware?

if not i heavily encourage it

[fossil token]

I have

[light raft]

that broozer was devious tho

[rapid bramble]

oh dope

after developing nsmbtr stuff for one full year i went ahead and tested on real hardware -> ended up with having to fix 5 layers of undefined behaviour 💀

[fossil token]

lol

I do tests about once every month, some file is causing the game not to load so I need to check all the recent code hacks I have added

[rapid bramble]

o i see

[fossil token]

last time I tested new++ was on an r4 card on my friends ds and it worked fine, Im testing on twlight menu and nearly every code hack makes the game not load

[wide furnace]

That's weird. Though for me, it crashed whenever i tried to load a level with tw++

[fossil token]

literally 1 asm file makes the game not load

[wide furnace]

wait really? last time i tried it worked with some code hacks i think, like 2 small ones. not 100% sure that i remember correctly tho

also with the old template it seems to work fine for some reason

[fossil token]

I think it might be an ncp thing, because tw++ worked fine back when I used fireflower

[wide furnace]

probably

[tepid temple]

i've had zero issues running roms with ncp patches on tw++

[fossil token]

I’m still using a 2021 release

That might be the problem

[wide furnace]

well i got some issues as well so idk

[tepid temple]

why?

[fossil token]

Because I haven’t really used my 3ds since then

[tepid temple]

oh thought you meant your ncp version is from 2021 for some reason

[wide furnace]

oh same lol

[rapid bramble]

It's definitely possible that you've got code working on r4 but not on twilight menu

The nds is weird

But yea check your ncp version

[fossil token]

Im on 1.0.6, the latest version of ncp

im gonna check my .json files

might be a problem with how its being compiled

[rapid bramble]

the way i've always approached these kind of issues is by removing each source file one by one and try again

but first i'd clean the binaries completely

[fossil token]

thats what I have been doing clean rom and adding files one by ones

but when I compile a second file is usually means the game freezes on the home screen

[rapid bramble]

hold on

you went clean rom, but did you also delete the build and backup folders?

[fossil token]

its all white

[fossil token]

yup

[rapid bramble]

hmm wtf

if you've done everything correctly and you're using the template jsons then it's most likely your code

[fossil token]

its probably something really stupid on my end

yeah I dont know whats going on, I compiled this, an asm file that worked with nsmbe5/s patcher and fire flower but its causing a clean rom that only has this aplied not to load ncp_call(0x020A2764, 0) SUB R2, R2, #138 BX LR

[rapid bramble]

should work fine? try doingarm ncp_jump(0x020A2764, 0) sub r2, r2, #138 b 0x020A2764 + 4

[fossil token]

hmm, might be header size, the rom has some of the .nwav files on it as I added the extra files to the roms

I now have two working code hacks on my rom on my 3ds lol

time to go through a lot of code

this is so weird, so I can have those two working

then I can compile another code hack

then it doesnt work

then remove that code hack and clean

but the game wont load anymore

[tepid temple]

Yeah how big is your rom? That could be relevant

[fossil token]

It is only 120mb

[rapid bramble]

nwav is really one of the things

[tepid temple]

"only" lol

[rapid bramble]

damn now i get why tr is only 32 MB padded

we didn't import any wave yet

[fossil token]

Anyways this testing was done in a normal rom that did not have any additional files

I’ll find out what’s going on eventually

[fossil token]

I think I’m going to buy an r4 cad for testing

I don’t know much about them but should I use one made for the original ds?

[wide furnace]

i think one that works for both the ds and 3ds should be the best option

the cartridge is usually white or golden

i know a tutorial to bypass the timebomb (apparently there's a timebomb in the r4 cards, so you think that its "broken" and buy another one)

[stoic lava]

Your 3ds is modded?

If yes, you could use nds bootstrap with twilight menu or forwarded roms

[wide furnace]

thats the problem, twilight menu/nds bootstrap is buggy

[fossil token]

Newer ds crashes all the time on there too

[stoic lava]

Oh fr

[stoic lava]

For me it crashes every time on w4

[fossil token]

And new++ had a stroke nearly every time

[wraith gust]

Weird, I've never had any issues with Twilight Menu/ NDS Bootstrap

And I played Newer DS many times and it never crashed for me, only in one level and it's fixed via reseting the game

[fossil token]

Probably tw++versions

I might update it when I get out of hospital

[fossil token]

I have been wanting to work on new++ but the jaw realignment and wisdom teeth surgery were way more painful then I expected

[wide furnace]

i hope the pain will calm down soon

[stoic lava]

^

[fossil token]

I tried to write a simple code hack to make the game load into w8 when a save file is created for the demo but I couldn't even start it, Im to high from my pain killers lol

[stoic lava]

Lmao

[wide furnace]

dang

[stoic lava]

You could try making a level in w1 that dispair the player to world 8 with the warp

[wraith gust]

"Shoot", not "dispair"

[stoic lava]

Im dumb

[fossil token]

it will ruin the flow

[stoic lava]

Oh i see

[fossil token]

the plan is to use all of w8 then 8- as some extra /random crap showcase in the demo

[stoic lava]

Ohhh

[wraith gust]

How about retexturing World 1 to make it look like World 8 and import World 8 levels into World 1?

[stoic lava]

W8 still have more levels than w1

[fossil token]

I’m not going to use only w8 levels though

w8 is just has the most basic map layout

[stoic lava]

Ohhh

[fossil token]

meet ScuttleBuddy

[wraith gust]

Buddy? Like a Scuttle friend or?

[fossil token]

I dont know, thats what I decided to call them

[stoic lava]

Big :3

It looks cute lol

[wide furnace]

oh nice!

for a second i read "ScuttleBloody" and it made sense to me because it's red and black

[tepid temple]

reminds me of that spider from dkc 2

[wraith gust]

Dunno why I read "ScuttleBody", lol

[pine palm]

yea same

[fossil token]

as you can see I have been very productive while coding this ```#include "ScuttleBuddy.hpp"

void ScuttleBuddy::activeCallback(ActiveCollider& self, ActiveCollider& other){

ScuttleBuddy* cb = static_cast<ScuttleBuddy*>(self.owner);
if(other.owner->actorType == ActorType::Player){
    Player* player = static_cast<Player*>(other.owner);
}

}

const LineSensorH ScuttleBuddy::bottomSensor = {
-30.5fx, // Start position from the origin (left)
30.5fx, // End position from the origin (right)
0.0fx // Y Offset (negative = down)
};

const LineSensorV ScuttleBuddy::sideSensor = {
0.5fx, // Start position from the origin (top)
4.5fx, // End position from the origin (bottom)
5.5fx // X offset (negative = left)
};

const ActiveColliderInfo ScuttleBuddy::activeColliderInfo = {

0.0fx, 0.0fx,
7.0fx, 7.0fx,

CollisionGroup::Entity,
CollisionFlag::None,
MAKE_GROUP_MASK(CollisionGroup::Player, CollisionGroup::PlayerSpecial),
MAKE_FLAG_MASK_EX(CollisionFlag::None),
0,

ScuttleBuddy::damagePlayerCallback

};

bool ScuttleBuddy::loadResources(){
FS::Cache::loadFile(2114 - 131, false);
FS::Cache::loadFile(2115 - 131, false);

 return 1;

}

void ScuttleBuddy::damagePlayer(ActiveCollider& self, Player& player){
auto stomped = updatePlayerStomp(self, 9.0fx/32.0fx, 1, false);
if(stomped == PlayerStompType::MiniStomp)
return;

if(stomped == PlayerStompType::Stomp){
    setStompCollision(player);
    return;
}
player.dealDamage(*this, 0, 4.0fx, PlayerDamageType::Hit);

}

void ScuttleBuddy::onStomped(){
}

void ScuttleBuddy::defeat(fx32 velX, fx32 velY, fx32 accelY, u8 unk){
StageEntity::defeat(velX, velY, accelY, unk);

}

void ScuttleBuddy::defeatMega(fx32 velX, fx32 velY, fx32 accelY){
StageEntity::defeatMega(velX, velY, accelY);

}

s32 ScuttleBuddy::onCreate(){
void* sbModel = FS::Cache::loadFile(2115 - 131, false);
void* sbAnim = FS::Cache::loadFile(2114 - 131, false);

model.create(sbModel, sbAnim, 0, 0, 0);
model.init(0, FrameCtrl::Looping, 0.4fx, 0);
this->scale = (0x3000, 0x3000, 0x3000);

Player *player;
player = Game::getPlayer(0);

fogFlag = false;
alpha = 0xff;
renderOffset = {0, 0};
rotationTranslation = {0, 0};

collisionMgr.init(this, &bottomSensor, nullptr, &sideSensor); 

activeCollider.init(this, activeColliderInfo, 0);
activeCollider.link();

return 1;

}

bool ScuttleBuddy::updateTurn(){
Player *player;
player = Game::getPlayer(0);

if(this->position.x < player->position.x){
        this->rotation.y = 2.0fx;
        return true;
}
else if(this->position.x > player->position.x){
        this->rotation.y = -2.0fx;
        return true;
}
else{
    return false;
}

}

bool ScuttleBuddy::updateMain(){

Player *player;
player = Game::getPlayer(0);

ScuttleBuddy::updateTurn();
updateAnimation();
updateVerticalVelocity(); // updates gravity
applyMovement(); // applies velocity
updateCollisionSensors(); // clamps position due to collision


return true;      

}

bool ScuttleBuddy::updateDefeated(){
Particle::Handler::createParticle(114, this->position);
this->Base::destroy();
return true;
}

bool ScuttleBuddy::updateDefeatedMega(){
Particle::Handler::createParticle(114, this->position);
this->Base::destroy();
return true;
}

s32 ScuttleBuddy::onDestroy(){
return 1;
}```

its the result of not being able to take adhd meds when on strong painkillers

[rich palm]

Looks cool; kinda reminds me of an Arantula

[fossil token]

its just a read scuttle bug lol kinda see it though

anyways progress update

[wide furnace]

interesting

[fossil token]

so I started programing an attack where three scuttlebugs spawn in and drop on the player

but guess what scuttlebugs are glitchy when spawned with Actor::spawnActor

[wide furnace]

dang :/

[rapid bramble]

you can spawn them as stage objects then

[fossil token]

The problem is that the hit box exists before the spider drops

Which means the player can get hit by nothing

[fossil token]

this is random as hell, but when she gets hit she'll spawn an acotr from a pipe on both sides

im still not sure what the actors gonna be

[wide furnace]

interesting

[stoic lava]

Make them throw strings

[fossil token]

oh dang mayro knows about this hack

[wide furnace]

wow nice

[stoic lava]

Cool!

[fossil token]

anyways current scuttlebuddy progress

[olive owl]

Up up and away

It would be funny if it used the reverse version of the bounce from string animation

[fossil token]

its janky, but when I have no modeling skills

[wide furnace]

levitation ✨

[fossil token]

there is only two animations on the model so Im pretty limited in what I can do and I dont know the math for that

[wide furnace]

couldnt you make a string 3d model and make it appear/disappear when you need it?

[fossil token]

an actor only loads one model

and I only know how to load a model with oncreate

[wide furnace]

oh ok

[fossil token]

Im trying to pull that off now

[wide furnace]

oh nice

[fossil token]

its still unfinished but its funny

so im going to try and make it part of the fight

[wide furnace]

it would make sense to have this animation

[wraith gust]

Oh Illy, I know you said you wanted to include these custom bosses in ghost houses, but have you considered adding new bosses in castles as well? Or maybe buff the already existing bosses? Kinda like you did with Petey Piranha

[fossil token]

I plan on modifying every castle boss in some way, I need to redo petey because the code is bad though

and I have some unfinished code for monty sitting around

the plan was to make a 1 in 10 chance of a banzi bill being shoot but I need to code a growing animation for it so it doesnt look weird

[wraith gust]

Like fixing the Petey Piranha code or rewrite it from scratch?

[fossil token]

rewrite from scratch

I did it before itztacos gave me symbols for petey so I can do it way better now

all this stuff for bosses is a shit tone of work

[fossil token]

I think this is in a good state, I simplified how the boss works and made it take more hits

im thinking of making the direction it jumps random though

[wide furnace]

oh thats cool

when the spider jumps, is it supposed to be doing the string animation, like you tried to do earlier or not?

[fossil token]

I gave up on that

the whole idea was that some scuttle bugs were ment to dropdown then the boss drops back down but I still coudnt get it to feel right

[wide furnace]

oh ok

[quaint gorge]

I think you should zoom out. It could be pretty annoying not being able to see the spider when it disappears from the screen (due to the sliding). Imagine you start walking into that direction and the spider quickly appears and you get damaged. You couldn't tell because you can't see it for a moment

[fossil token]

is this zoomed out enough?

[wraith gust]

Lmao what?

[fossil token]

what about now?

[wide furnace]

wait how can you do that

i think it was more like a simple zoom with the zoom sprite, with values of 20 or 24 instead of the default 16

[fossil token]

do yall think this is enough for fuzzy

[fossil token]

im going to make it zoom out when needed lol

[wide furnace]

alright i guess

[stoic lava]

Better fr

[wide furnace]

ehm no

we cant see the spider yet

[stoic lava]

True

[wraith gust]

Now make a whole level with this level of zoom 🔥 🔥 🔥

[fossil token]

it would probs be invisable at this point if I didnt play with the models scaled up

[wide furnace]

we can build a whole planet

[wraith gust]

Holy fuck

[wide furnace]

wow, do you use a code for that?