Starliner Crew Flight Test

[jovial sphinx]

unless I'm failing to remember something or having false memories

[empty jackal]

Nah just a few weeks

[jovial sphinx]

oh 💀

[faint portal]

i remember back to when the Dragon capsule was doing the first crewed test and people were saying that of course starliner will launch first, boeing has so much experience so there's no way dragon will launch first

[faint portal]

originally, was set for July 2023, but they had issues with parachutes and flammable tape on wires, so they postponed it

[jovial sphinx]

then again spacex wasn't anywhere near it's current form at that point

it had it's reputation sure

[faint portal]

fair, but i still find it quite funny

[jovial sphinx]

it is very ironic, yeah

[faint portal]

also, any idea what happened to dreamchaser

[distant goblet]

JOEING?

[faint portal]

so far, it seems like it might be

fingers crossed

[wind laurel]

hopped on stream and saw this, very ambitious!!

[faint portal]

i mean, its easier to launch from mars, so maybe theyre talking about alternate launch locations

[safe juniper]

starliner to mars

[short crest]

Will be driving during this launch, won't be able to watch this attempt unfortunately (so it'll definitely launch this time)

[timber zealot]

Thanks for your sacrifice, Butch and Suni will be grateful 🫡

[distant goblet]

LETS FUCKING JOE

[wind laurel]

ITS EVEN SPINNING IN THIS GRAPHIC

THEY DID THE THING

[granite dock]

https://tenor.com/view/starliner-spin-delayed-10times-starliner-can-be-dealyed10times-gif-25187166

[harsh junco]

pixel mic

most functional MCC loop:

[plucky cradle]

Highest quality NASA stream

720p@30

DO NOT OPEN STREAM CHAT

holy

[restive cave]

The current countdown in the NXSF app is exactly 40 seconds behind the actual countdown on the stream. Any way to fix that?

[faint portal]

which one? NSF or Nasa

[harsh junco]

because the stream has delay

[plucky cradle]

Nasa

Nsf commentary 👎

[restive cave]

Exactly 40 second delay?

[faint portal]

Nasa is somewhat meh, NSF has had so many people send messages that are then immediately deleted

[cloud herald]

NASA stream best stream

[plucky cradle]

“90%” go

“100%” scrubs

[wind laurel]

oop

[wind laurel]

95% valve rule unfort

[arctic hearth]

The T0 on the app is correct, the clock is counting down to it, you're watching the stream on a delay

[plucky cradle]

110% missing part

[arctic hearth]

From the data entry side of things:

[plucky cradle]

Ah yes

Starliner on par with all pthers

[cloud herald]

not sure this is gemini 3, NASA

[wind laurel]

🥴

[faint portal]

arm retracted

[frank folio]

L-10min

[worthy flax]

T-9 min

[empty jackal]

We are so joeing

[safe juniper]

go no.go soon

[faint portal]

10/10 comment from streamchat

[plucky cradle]

Godsamn space probouns!

[harsh junco]

GNG

GNG'

I FUCKING LOVE PHYSICAL GNGS

[plucky cradle]

Yusss

[safe juniper]

lmaoooo

here we go

[harsh junco]

WE ARE GO

[plucky cradle]

Fts sounded like he was laughing

[harsh junco]

14:52:15

[wind laurel]

whooh this go read was hype

[frank folio]

Wonder why they don't have the checklist on the screen

[safe juniper]

[plucky cradle]

Yay all go

[wind laurel]

drama

[faint portal]

"cleared to proceed"

[plucky cradle]

✅

[safe juniper]

we are cooking

[empty jackal]

LETS GO BABYYYYYY

[wind laurel]

usa! usa!

[harsh junco]

oh ew religion speech

[safe juniper]

5 mins

[harsh junco]

fuck this

[safe juniper]

religion goated

[wind laurel]

🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[faint portal]

what is it with americans putting anything on a flag

[frank folio]

SPEECH SPEECH SPEECH

[wind laurel]

🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱

WOOO

[little sinew]

Are we joeing?

[plucky cradle]

Joei

[harsh junco]

ng

[faint portal]

like the Starliner logo does not work on a flag

[plucky cradle]

🇷🇴🇷🇴🇷🇴🇷🇴

[harsh junco]

"take us to space.. and back"

very important distinction there

[wind laurel]

LIVE FLAG REACTION

[frank folio]

American flag on screen is crazy

[safe juniper]

people when they see an american flag on an american stream

[plucky cradle]

Usa usa usa

[harsh junco]

lmao dude taking selfie in front of the countdown clock

[safe juniper]

right here we go

[wind laurel]

🫡

[plucky cradle]

Cmon ncin

[little sinew]

US flag jumpscare

[frank folio]

GO Starliner GO USA

[safe juniper]

yesss its the goated commentator

[faint portal]

how come those unpatriotic astronauts were not standing for the speech?

[worthy flax]

further along than we gone last time

[wind laurel]

ula should rename itself back for this launch

actually no nvm no continuity there except lockheed

[plucky cradle]

I got this feeling

Of an abort

[faint portal]

t-3m

[plucky cradle]

Please actually launch

[wind laurel]

we need butch facepalm as an emote

[harsh junco]

please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please LOM

[frank folio]

Communist astronauts 😢

[safe juniper]

why do u want loss of mission

[frank folio]

L-2min

[wind laurel]

communauts

[plucky cradle]

25secs behind

[wind laurel]

oh they named the capsule eagle

wau

[plucky cradle]

USA US AUSA

[safe juniper]

o thought it was called calypso

[wind laurel]

i mightve misheard

[safe juniper]

1 minute!!

[plucky cradle]

Holy

[harsh junco]

only way to put a stop to this thing

[faint portal]

wasnt calypso the one that was ripped apart and rebuilt?

[safe juniper]

no this is calypso

[faint portal]

60s

[wind laurel]

i see 45s

[safe juniper]

30

[warm dome]

t-30s

[static crown]

[safe juniper]

cold

good drawing

[warm dome]

this is good

[safe juniper]

GO

[wind laurel]

woo

[frank folio]

sick drawing

[warm dome]

godspeed butch and sunny

[faint portal]

30s

[plucky cradle]

5

[warm dome]

5a

[plucky cradle]

1

[faint portal]

20s

[plucky cradle]

Yay

[safe juniper]

LIFTOFF

[plucky cradle]

Liftoff

[worthy flax]

10

[faint portal]

yooooo

[worthy flax]

raaahhhh

[warm dome]

🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀

[plucky cradle]

Finally

[faint portal]

at long last

[plucky cradle]

Took it long enough

[wind laurel]

NO SHOT

DRAWING A LINE TO THE STARS

STAR LINER

[fading mauve]

NO WAY

[safe juniper]

COLD

[worthy flax]

finaly after how many years?

[safe juniper]

as ice

[plucky cradle]

Dragon 4 years ago:

[safe juniper]

beautiful shots

[faint portal]

onboards?

[safe juniper]

ground

[warm dome]

MaxQ ?\

[wind laurel]

max queer its june

[faint portal]

lots of ice falling

[granite dock]

No onboards due to bandwidth limitations

[safe juniper]

there is onboards

[faint portal]

they were just on there in NSF

[wind laurel]

nuh uh

good shit

[granite dock]

Atlas V will have onboards, Starliner won't

SRB burnout

[safe juniper]

booster sep

[plucky cradle]

B sep

Byyeeee

[wind laurel]

eyy

[safe juniper]

bye bye

[plucky cradle]

And a 737 wing

[plucky cradle]

Idk maybe

[faint portal]

very sooty exhaust

[vagrant nest]

not me watching in the middle of college orientation

[fading mauve]

early jettison?

[wind laurel]

nah abort to orbit

[wind laurel]

oooo?

[vagrant nest]

im at UMD rn

[wind laurel]

💀

[wind laurel]

neatoo

[vagrant nest]

at least 6 other people in front of me have it pulled up lmao

[wind laurel]

you should make them put it on a big screen

[wind laurel]

BASED

[safe juniper]

its soot sooo i meann..

technically not wrong

[worthy flax]

bruh

[safe juniper]

lmaooo

coal

[faint portal]

steampunk rocket

[safe juniper]

sep

[plucky cradle]

C sep

[safe juniper]

centaur ignition

[granite dock]

Staging

[wind laurel]

wait whats going on

[safe juniper]

double centaur looking fine

[wind laurel]

where are they

guys

guys im confused

[plucky cradle]

Uh

[safe juniper]

skirt jettison

[warm dome]

what stream lol

[wind laurel]

nasa

[faint portal]

shouldnt it be ignition now?

[plucky cradle]

It is

[safe juniper]

it is going

[plucky cradle]

But we dont have a good view

[wind laurel]

still dropping skirts i thin

[faint portal]

on the onboard i didnt see ignition

[empty jackal]

Gorgeous

[wind laurel]

graphic shows ignition

[plucky cradle]

Bad view dw

[wind laurel]

but no visual

o

[granite dock]

It's hydrogen

[empty jackal]

I literally saw the SRBS falling away with my telescope

[safe juniper]

tough to spot centaur running

[wind laurel]

velocity is going up

which is good

[wind laurel]

SHEEEE

[empty jackal]

Hydrogen plumes don’t really make themselves visible

[wind laurel]

true

[vagrant nest]

rl10 greatest of all time

[wind laurel]

my goat

[plucky cradle]

Do second stages ever fail?

[granite dock]

Yes

Ask Rocket Lab

[safe juniper]

just noticed that name

[wind laurel]

no they underperform

[safe juniper]

synthetic aperture gaydar is great

[wind laurel]

strongly agree

[safe juniper]

10/10 name

[faint portal]

ask Apollo 13

[fading mauve]

we don’t make that joke on crewed launches💀💀

[plucky cradle]

Lol

[candid willow]

So how's it going?

[fading mauve]

an extra 31s of isp is wild

[vagrant nest]

it’s joeing

[safe juniper]

going good

[wind laurel]

good shit

[wind laurel]

also yeah that is quite smth

[vagrant nest]

STK my beloved

[remote hawk]

Seeing 2 centaurs looked different

[wind laurel]

FUCK I JUST SAW THE DELMARVA PENINSULA

[faint portal]

wait did that loss of signal screen have a bouncing square in the corner?

[pine cedar]

Something is genuinely wrong with you

[wind laurel]

gahhh i think i just lost my chance to see i outside

although clouds are a bitch

[vagrant nest]

mf it is CLOUDY

[wind laurel]

yeah no i wasnt seein anything anyway

[harsh junco]

starliner has an abort system, it'd probably work

[worthy flax]

coms are quiet

[wind laurel]

bro ive been trying to image m81 for the last week and it is NOT WORKING

[harsh junco]

I did not say LOC

[pine cedar]

LOM of mission still carries a chance of death/injury

[wind laurel]

the fuck is this bro 😭

[pine cedar]

That’s still a fucked up thing to say when people are onboard

[harsh junco]

that's not what I'm wishing for

[harsh junco]

LOM now is infinitely preferable to a LOCV in a few years

[vagrant nest]

maryland the only part of the US to not see the aurora

[wind laurel]

yeah

[vagrant nest]

im still pissed

[wind laurel]

no it was so bad

i love clouds in the day but at night they better fuck the hell off

[plucky cradle]

We had clouds in cali to when it happened

[wind laurel]

the clouds came in for the two days of high intensity and then on the third day where the forecasts gave us ~1 hour to see them

[faint portal]

time to MECO?

[pine cedar]

LOM is not preferable at all when there are people on board

[granite dock]

~1 minute

[wind laurel]

there was barely anything according to my friends who drove

[safe juniper]

real

[pine cedar]

You should be wishing them a safe flight

Not for their flight to end in some sort of accident

[wind laurel]

‼️

[safe juniper]

common miranda mega L

[faint portal]

MECO

[safe juniper]

meco

[harsh junco]

it absolutely is, if this thing keeps flying it WILL kill someone, if they LOM now the crew will be safe and there's a solid chance MDD will pull the plug on this mess

[candid willow]

Yeah uhhhh don't fucking do that Miranda

[granite dock]

MECO

[pine cedar]

Genuinely not a good thing to say and reflects horribly on your character

[safe juniper]

REAL

[harsh junco]

I wish the crew a safe flight, I don't wish Starliner a successful one

[pine cedar]

Safe flight and successful Starliner flight are not mutually exclusive

[plucky cradle]

Boeing…orbit!??????

[pine cedar]

A loss of mission is not a safe flight

[safe juniper]

safe unsuccessful flight

[pine cedar]

A loss of mission involving crew is a disaster

[fading mauve]

in what way is starliner unsafe…?

[granite dock]

Not yet, it's still suborbital

[harsh junco]

MDD

nuff said

[plucky cradle]

A very long suborbit

[candid willow]

nuff not said

[harsh junco]

well they're perigee positive now

[granite dock]

Very close, just 5 (or 25) km short

[safe juniper]

good stuff

[faint portal]

Sep

Sep

[plucky cradle]

Starliner now on it way

[safe juniper]

epic

good stuff

[faint portal]

multiviews

[pine cedar]

Successful sep lets goooo

[safe juniper]

does anyone know when docking?

[granite dock]

~25 hours

[safe juniper]

solid

[plucky cradle]

See you guys after starship

[fading mauve]

🙏🙏🙏

[faint portal]

very interesting views

[safe juniper]

starship flight (maybe) and starliner docking tomorrow

[plucky cradle]

[fading mauve]

good to see

[jovial sphinx]

oh hey looks like we're getting views from one of the mission controllers' desktops

[faint portal]

they use windows?

at least its windows 10 not 11

[wind laurel]

this is so funny

[pine cedar]

What else would they use

[worthy flax]

were you expecting apple?

[faint portal]

idk linux? something in-house?

[pine cedar]

No

[wanton smelt]

what app is that

[pine cedar]

That costs too much

[keen niche]

MCC runs windows

[pine cedar]

And requires too much training

[jovial sphinx]

nothing we can get our hands on

[wanton smelt]

[faint portal]

[cloud herald]

Not with that attitude

[keen niche]

This app is just a FreeFlyer based telemetry visualization tool, it's not used for engineering purposes

[granite dock]

Unfortunately

[jovial sphinx]

yeah.

[static crown]

Imagine if we just saw KSP open on the taskbar lol

[jovial sphinx]

I've seen MOCR guys with this same app for the Artemis I launch so I'm guessing it's an internal software developed exclusively for MOCR work (surprise surprise)

[worthy flax]

no inside POV?

[faint portal]

[jovial sphinx]

I'm hoping they switch to it sometime soon 🥲

[granite dock]

Nope, not until they are docked to the ISS

(Due to bandwidth limitations)

[worthy flax]

lame

[jovial sphinx]

ah, makes sense.

[wanton smelt]

live chat is completely spoiled by f9 launches

[frank folio]

booooo I want to see astronauts

[jovial sphinx]

i forgot live chat existed
I was happy for a second there

[worthy flax]

"jUsT uSe StArLiNk"

[fading mauve]

i’m glad they activated it unlike northrup smh

[wind laurel]

this is making me laugh so hard im sorry

[jovial sphinx]

ngl does look a lot like RSS
just waiting for the "VAPOR IN FEEDLINES, SHUTTING DOWN"

[pine cedar]

Can someone send the list of objectives

[static crown]

Guys they have gay RCS

[pine cedar]

Are they in manual control rn?

[empty jackal]

Lmao

[granite dock]

I believe they will do that after the orbital insertion

[pine cedar]

Kk

[jovial sphinx]

yknow
ngl
i kinda prefer these views to prettier ones that don't have telemetry

[pine cedar]

I love seeing data

Looks like they’re in proper orientation

[jovial sphinx]

prepping for a burn

i think it's a circ burn?

[safe juniper]

yes it would be

[granite dock]

Orbital insertion burn

If they don't perform this

They'll reenter

[jovial sphinx]

so it's like the Shuttle's burn with the OMS, yes?

[azure wyvern]

Yup

[granite dock]

Yes

[jovial sphinx]

gotcha

[granite dock]

Burn has started

[wind laurel]

Woop woop

That’s a lot of rcs

Burn done

Good burn!

[granite dock]

Good burn!

[gritty sequoia]

Good burn!

[safe juniper]

Good burn!

[jovial sphinx]

Good burn!

[empty jackal]

Good burn!

[vagrant nest]

Good burn!

[timber zealot]

Good burn!

[cloud herald]

Good burn!

[wanton smelt]

Good burn!

[formal drift]

Good burn!

[candid willow]

Good burn!

[fading mauve]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1798348864296247416

https://x.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1798352391622017371

Elon Musk (@elonmusk) on X

The @SpaceX Starship launch tomorrow morning will be live-streamed exclusively on 𝕏!

Twitter · Jun 5, 2024, 1:39 PM

Gav Cornwell (@SpaceOffshore) on X

@elonmusk @SpaceX Sorry to hear that

Twitter · Jun 5, 2024, 1:53 PM

dang it

wrong star[blank] channel

[azure wyvern]

https://x.com/djsnm/status/1798374640987123900?s=61

Scott Manley (@DJSnM) on X

Comms people are telling us that there’ll be no video from orbit until they reach ISS, so I guess Boeing cheaped out on that capability.

Twitter · Jun 5, 2024, 3:21 PM

[arctic hearth]

I love Gav

[safe juniper]

i hate twitter streams

[safe juniper]

lmaoo

Boeing can't be asked with cameras

[pine cedar]

They explained bandwidth before

[fading mauve]

whoever at accuweather is a nerd ty

who needs nxf when we have accuweather

[thorn ocean]

man how did I miss it aaa

[azure wyvern]

And now the frantic mass migration of spaceflight media people from the Cape to Boca Chica...

[empty jackal]

Fr lol

[cloud herald]

accuweather keeps up with space/astronomy stuff decently well from what ive seen

[jovial sphinx]

it's really beginning to hit me that the last time humans went to space on an Atlas was in 1963.

[jovial sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/migration-gif-21343476

[safe juniper]

so called free thinking space fans making their way from cape canaveral to Boca chica

[static crown]

anyone got a transparent version of this?

[wind laurel]

woe, remove.bg upon ye

[safe juniper]

nill belson

[fading mauve]

kinda wild that none of the original cft crew was on cft

[azure wyvern]

And this wasn't even the original crew
Michael Fincke's place was originally Eric Boe's but he pulled out in January 2019 due to medical reasons

[humble arch]

did they show the 0-G indicator?

[granite dock]

Yes

[empty jackal]

https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1798408073670717764

Jeff Foust (@jeff_foust) on X

Steve Stich cuts Tory Bruno’s tie after the post-launch press conference to mark ULA’s entry into the “human spaceflight club.”

Twitter · Jun 5, 2024, 5:34 PM

[thorn ocean]

is there a known reentry path yet

mfw I go to NM the 15th

[safe juniper]

north macedonia?

[empty jackal]

GOD DAMN https://fxtwitter.com/trevormahlmann/status/1798427106525028410?s=61

[thorn ocean]

real

[harsh junco]

https://fxtwitter.com/13ericralph31/status/1798405737460457780

[jovial sphinx]

Wilmore and Williams currently discussing the launch on the Boeing livestream

They seem happy about the whole thing

CAPCOM and Wilmore spent a bit of time discussing some noise coming from Starliner side (cabin fans)

Going through data collection procedures from "VESTA."

[fathom prism]

https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1798404117091725325

Scott Manley (@DJSnM) on X

@thesheetztweetz Kinda wild they don't even have ground stations given that you can literally get satellite ground stations in AWS
https://t.co/cQS7LTEhuJ

Twitter · Jun 5, 2024, 5:18 PM

[cursive crater]

gotta love the bold russian text

proving that the US can never escape the grasp of the russians

[cursive crater]

i’m confused why do they keep the brackets (whatever they are on the skirt) for SRBs which aren’t there

it’s just extra dead weight

even with atlas 4/501

[short crest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybaWL0J-Tbw

[pine cedar]

streamlined production

And makes the booster interchangeable

[cursive crater]

i get the second point but also it looks like it’s just bolted on

what’s stopping them from just removing the bolts

and taking it off

[empty jackal]

A ton of images from todays launch

[pine cedar]

That’s more work

And what if they need to switch the booster

[cursive crater]

just bolt it back on

if you don’t have them on that’s some extra weight saved ain’t it

i mean i know they won’t do it

but atlas v really doesn’t utilise all the performance it can have

that’s just in general

[empty jackal]

They don’t need all of the performance in most cases

[cursive crater]

would be nice to see them push atlas as far as it can go

[cloud herald]

thats just called new horizons

[cursive crater]

no i mean actually optimising atlas V to squeeze out any additional performance

chilling prop even more, removing useless weight etc

[cloud herald]

wdym optimized? NH IIRC already did extra weight removal

[cursive crater]

chilled prop then

[cloud herald]

Think it was paint on centaur?

dont think they did extra chilling, not sure how RD-180 would react to that anyway.

[cursive crater]

i’d say the RD-180 would be pretty chill with it

[cloud herald]

• they added STAR-48

[short crest]

The Atlas V only has 16 launches left

At this point any optimization effort should be focused on Vulcan anyway

[cursive crater]

oh yeah totally

ik this won’t ever happen

it would just be something in concept

that won’t actually happen

[harsh junco]

would be interesting to read about this, are there any decent resources beyond just wiki level stuff

[cloud herald]

id have to look for sources, I recall reading about this years ago

[cloud herald]

best I can find atm
"In July 2003 NASA selected Atlas V 551 as the launch vehicle for the New
Horizons mission. Injected with several enhancements tailored specifically to the
New Horizons payload, the performance of the Atlas V 551 had been improved
significantly and an updated launch vehicle performance curve was provided by
NASA Kennedy Space Center."

http://spiff.rit.edu/classes/phys369/workshops/w10r/pluto/ssr-mission-design.pdf

prob more out there but would need some digging

though I guess there is a chance that specific quote is referring to the STAR-48B ig

[sage gyro]

https://x.com/cbs_spacenews/status/1798502162957218178? https://x.com/cbs_spacenews/status/1798504654738743305?

William Harwood (@cbs_spacenews) on X

A5/Starliner CFT: Flight controllers have told the Starliner crew they are isolating the spacecraft's port helium manifold, the one known to have a small but persistent leak. Mission control to the crew: "No action on the caution message. To catch you back up, we're taking a look

Twitter · Jun 5, 2024, 11:48 PM

William Harwood (@cbs_spacenews) on X

A5/Starliner CFT: These exchanges came down about an hour ago; mission control just now told the crew they're still assessing; no indication yet on whether this is a real concern or simply precautionary; managers said before launch leak would have to dramatically increase to be

Twitter · Jun 5, 2024, 11:58 PM

[empty jackal]

Damn it

[azure wyvern]

Different ones apparently

https://x.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1798520862884180095?s=46&t=9j2-lzDcIbRK6McrWkEb9g

Chris Bergin - NSF (@NASASpaceflight) on X

Starliner CFT Update:

Butch and Suni have now begun the sleep portion of the timeline just after Mission Control hand-off to the overnight team.

While the crew rests, Mission Control will be working the problem of the helium leaks that were detected in the Top Helium 1 and Port

Twitter · Jun 6, 2024, 1:02 AM

[wind laurel]

HAHAHAHAH

BRUH WHAT THE FUCK

[fading mauve]

https://x.com/Mike_Pence/status/1798521178367369288

Mike Pence (@Mike_Pence) on X

Congratulations to @NASA and @NASA_Astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams on the successful launch of @ulalaunch Atlas V Rocket @NASAKennedy!
What a Beautiful Sight!
Go @BoeingSpace #Starliner!🇺🇸

Twitter · Jun 6, 2024, 1:03 AM

why did mike pence watch this on a fucking rotten potato

let’s jack up the saturation sure why not

[empty jackal]

LMAO

Saturation slider: YES
Grain: YES

[jovial sphinx]

this looks like the quality of a video someone would upload as proof that the moon landing was faked

[fading mauve]

nah that’s more like noise reduction than grain

noise reduction softens the image

[empty jackal]

Oh yeah mb

[fading mauve]

TRUE

[vernal wren]

https://fixupx.com/cbs_spacenews/status/1798528269416911143?s=46&t=0Le5vZqjpKqOaLGUTwd_rw

[empty jackal]

Guh

[empty jackal]

I know we shouldn’t joke about this because it’s serious but…
https://x.com/Tygget/status/1798529814090928136

Someone Named Tygget (@Tygget) on X

NASA warns that, due to helium leak on Starliner, there is growing concern within mission control that the crew will sound very silly when they dock to the ISS.

Twitter · Jun 6, 2024, 1:38 AM

[wind laurel]

spacecraft propulsion is a ploy by big gas to increase thermosphere noble gas concentrations

[wind laurel]

holy fuck this is bad

[fading mauve]

https://x.com/WordJoe69/status/1798537208963781029

JOE Word (@WordJoe69) on X

@cbs_spacenews My friend might write a fake hit piece to try to short Boeing tomorrow morning . Thanks

Twitter · Jun 6, 2024, 2:07 AM

[fading mauve]

(it’s someone being a silly goose)

[wind laurel]

also i love how john galt atlas shrugged replied to this 😱

[wind laurel]

no like this is abort worthy i think ||/j||

[empty jackal]

It’s to the point where I am genuinely worried for their safety

[wind laurel]

💀 i want to see this

[fading mauve]

it’s nbd atm

[jovial sphinx]

If the crew was told to get some rest while Houston figures it out
chances are that it isn't a big issue

[wind laurel]

surely theres enough redundancy 🙂

[static crown]

Is the helium leak in the service module or the capsule?

[jovial sphinx]

service module?

[placid crown]

why is starliner so leaky

[fading mauve]

why does butch have bandaids

[thorn ocean]

I think it’s padding because the suit sucks and is uncomfortable or something

[granite dock]

https://x.com/Space_Station/status/1798628996416205053

International Space Station (@Space_Station) on X

The @BoeingSpace #Starliner remains on track for a docking at 12:15pm ET today to the station despite helium leaks reported on the spacecraft. @NASA and Boeing will meet to review data prior to rendezvous and docking operations on the orbital outpost.

Twitter · Jun 6, 2024, 8:12 AM

[azure wyvern]

https://x.com/Space_Station/status/1798676853647139102

International Space Station (@Space_Station) on X

Mission managers met this morning and polled go for the @BoeingSpace #Starliner spacecraft to dock to the space station at 12:15pm ET today. They reveiewed the vehicle's status and continue monitoring manifold leak rates.

Twitter · Jun 6, 2024, 11:22 AM

[azure wyvern]

Meanwhile on Starliner: https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1798690376879935787

Jeff Foust (@jeff_foust) on X

Listening to Starliner communications this morning and hearing Butch Wilmore describe a noise they're hearing occasionally on the spacecraft, comparing it to the basement furnace from "A Christmas Story" (but without the cursing, he adds.)

Twitter · Jun 6, 2024, 12:16 PM

[empty jackal]

[azure wyvern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybaWL0J-Tbw

https://x.com/BoeingSpace/status/1798699578579144833
No-one's caring at the point

Boeing Space (@BoeingSpace) on X

Following an NHPC1 burn, #Starliner is now on a path to align with @Space_Station.

Two NHPC burns help set the spacecraft up for favorable lighting and relative position conditions for final rendezvous, proximity operations and docking.

Twitter · Jun 6, 2024, 12:52 PM

[safe juniper]

the stream for docking starts soon if anyone cares rn

[static crown]

[safe juniper]

https://www.youtube.com/live/ybaWL0J-Tbw?si=szIBCpBZoS2EOPhO

[fading mauve]

somehow 9k viewers

[jovial sphinx]

a genuine miracle

[azure wyvern]

Did I heard they lost one of the infrared cameras for rendezvous?

[safe juniper]

oh

[static crown]

Wtf Youtube didn't notify me that the stream started

[faint portal]

whats the docking connect t-?

[proud palm]

-90 min, 1615 GMT

[pine cedar]

I haven’t heard that

[safe juniper]

capcom just fcked off somewhere

oh its a break

live views of starlinwr

[wind laurel]

live starliner reaction

[vernal wren]

https://fixupx.com/cbs_spacenews/status/1798737312022680058?s=46&t=0Le5vZqjpKqOaLGUTwd_rw

RIP

[opaque kettle]

almost there

[wind laurel]

thats another one gone

wth

[safe juniper]

so some.thrusters are not working

[vernal wren]

https://fixupx.com/cbs_spacenews/status/1798741081909313714?s=46&t=0Le5vZqjpKqOaLGUTwd_rw

[dusk ingot]

Starliner can't avoid problems even after it finally gets to launch 😭

[granite dock]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[dusk ingot]

Poor program is cursed

[static crown]

Boeing Syndrome is such a terrible disease

[harsh junco]

McDonnell Douglas Disease

[safe juniper]

S29 left flap

wait they're doing the manual demo now

oh

or they are gonna do it now

[wind laurel]

helium leak ^

[harsh junco]

Starliner has 6 thrusters operational (zero fault tolerant), so can't enter the keepout sphere
lmfao

https://fxtwitter.com/cbs_spacenews/status/1798744048515326105

[azure wyvern]

I wonder even if they manage to get more thrusters back, it will be manual docking time with Butch

[keen niche]

They can't enter on automated guidance but they can enter and dock on manual

[wind laurel]

ONLY 6

isnt that the bare minimum to keep full control

you have 6 degrees of freedom here right

[cloud herald]

im pretty sure starliner has more than 10 total thrusters

iirc 4 have had issues so far, theres certainly a good bit more than 6 operational unless im missing something

[wind laurel]

surely they have more 😭

[keen niche]

They've already recovered 3 of the 4 and are working on getting the last one back

[wind laurel]

neat

[cloud herald]

yeah idk where the 6 came from lol

[keen niche]

They could proceed fully on manual but automated approach is a flight test objective. They will continue to work towards that objective until they feel they cannot meet it

[cloud herald]

per this its 28, so loss of 4 is still 24 thrusters lol https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/01/nasa-and-boeing-are-closely-looking-at-starliners-thruster-performance/

[azure wyvern]

Probably "currently zero fault tolerance 6 dof control", but that means 0 fault tolerance on 6 Degrees Of Freedom (3 x rotation & 3 x translation I guess) control

[wind laurel]

mm

[cloud herald]

right, thats probably just caused by whichever specific pairings failed meaning in some specific axis they no longer have enough redundancy

[harsh junco]

ah im stupid lol, 8 sounded low to me but I'm thinking of the LAEs I think

[wind laurel]

probably true

[harsh junco]

I guess I just did 8-2

[wind laurel]

💀

[cloud herald]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[vernal wren]

https://fixupx.com/cbs_spacenews/status/1798747671739683312?s=46&t=0Le5vZqjpKqOaLGUTwd_rw

[azure wyvern]

One thing is sure, we don't wanna a Soyuz-10/15/23/25/33/T-8 situation happening here with mission team scrambling to get the crew back without docking, that could be an almost fatal-blow to the Starliner program.

[vagrant nest]

https://x.com/cbs_spacenews/status/1798749839246729292?s=46

William Harwood (@cbs_spacenews) on X

A5/Starliner CFT: NASA has waved off the crew's first docking opportunity and is now setting up for a backup at 1:33pm EDT (1733 UTC)

Twitter · Jun 6, 2024, 4:12 PM

[azure wyvern]

Another hot fire to test thrusters and try to get more back up, but apparently the spacecraft is ready to dock for the next window, for now.

[little sinew]

plot twist: they abort the docking

[granite dock]

https://x.com/wapodavenport/status/1798755987542917226

Christian Davenport (@wapodavenport) on X

NASA now says they are comfortable with Starliner's RCS thrusters to be able to proceed inside the space station's "keep out sphere." The next docking window opens at 1:33 p.m. ET.

Twitter · Jun 6, 2024, 4:37 PM

[fading mauve]

B1A3 is a problem child

[azure wyvern]

Looks like they cleared another one back on, one will be locked down & inhibited

[cloud herald]

bro sounds like he's dying 💀

[keen niche]

Inside the keep out sphere now

[azure wyvern]

Are they keeping manual control or is Starliner back to auto?

[keen niche]

I believe auto

I'm half listening

[humble arch]

Semi-auto then

[cloud herald]

its in a quantum superposition

its auto and manual until it docks to the ISS

[wind laurel]

obviously a bloch sphere over here

[cloud herald]

they're playing KSP

NASA faking confirmed

[empty jackal]

Was just about to say that 😭

[cloud herald]

its all a giant RSS Principia save

[wind laurel]

lmao

[cloud herald]

WHAT lol

[wind laurel]

oh wait they have the nadir cam

https://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/ESRS/HDEV/ maybe ill just watch this instead

AAAA 😭

[keen niche]

In a hold for lighting conditions

Starliner is operating autonomously

Approaching 10m hold

Holding at 10m. Expecting 6 minute hold until lighting is good for docking

Expecting 47 minutes of margin in this docking window

[cloud herald]

12:30 CDT docking time looks like

[keen niche]

A little under 6 minutes until lighting, then configuring NDS for docking, then final approach and soft capture

[fading mauve]

suddenly starliner

[cloud herald]

https://tenor.com/view/boeing-starliner-spacex-crew-dragon-falcon9-gif-25614432

[leaden umbra]

The one flight during which I had important course group work

...

And than it actually goes and now docks

[little sinew]

cozy

[leaden umbra]

Like there's issues I read?

Everything still within green?

[keen niche]

All go

[pulsar ledge]

Go for final approach

[leaden umbra]

Ah good

[wind laurel]

current state of affaris

[keen niche]

Under 7m to go, Starliner on autonomous guidance

5m

4m

[faint portal]

moving quite fast

[keen niche]

0.5 m/s

1m

[granite dock]

Soft capture!

[wind laurel]

eyy

[faint portal]

soft cap

[restive cave]

docked

[keen niche]

Contact and capture

[faint portal]

i can finally breathe fully

[wind laurel]

SOUTHERN INDIAN OCEAN YOU SAY

[fading mauve]

ABOVE THE INDIAN OCEAN?? maybe S29 was able to see it

[restive cave]

They did it at 12:34 pm

[fading mauve]

if it wasn’t underwater you say

[wind laurel]

maddie its a ship

ships float

[fading mauve]

indian ocean coming in clutch for spaceflight

[wind laurel]

ong

[fading mauve]

after how many holes it acquired today?

boats tend to not survive reentry very well

[wind laurel]

🤫🤫🤫 we dont talk about that

[wind laurel]

says you and what data 😤

[fading mauve]

throw a boat up there

you’ll see

[wind laurel]

alright will do

[azure wyvern]

https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1798771691621109986

Cosmic Penguin (@Cosmic_Penguin) on X

That the two probably at least semi-historic moment in spaceflight that happened over the past hours both happened over the remote southern Indian Ocean is certainly NOT a coincidence.

Twitter · Jun 6, 2024, 5:39 PM

[wind laurel]

real

[fading mauve]

the day before demo 2 flew SN4 blew up

the day starliner docks to the iss for the first time starship goes orbital and comes back in one piece adjacent condition

[wind laurel]

what happens when dreamchaser goes up

[pulsar ledge]

Not orbital

[wind laurel]

transatmospheric then

[crystal moss]

do you mean dream chaser

because the dreamliner is a commercial airplane and i don't think that thing is going trans atmospheric

[cloud herald]

LOL

[wind laurel]

oh im stupid

lmao

i do

[gritty sequoia]

you just never know...

[azure wyvern]

https://vxtwitter.com/ulalaunch/status/1798783965450604766
We didn’t got to see this yesterday…

[fading mauve]

ingress

[gritty sequoia]

spingle

[harsh junco]

https://fxtwitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1798827111454827003

[cursive basin]

https://vxtwitter.com/wheel_stop/status/1798829784384073830

[static crown]

[empty jackal]

[static crown]

[wind laurel]

[formal drift]

Crew Dragon Tomboy

[bright sedge]

Plsno

[little sinew]

AYOOOO

[little sinew]

[plucky cradle]

do you know what..... porn is/

[little sinew]

it was a joke 💀

[empty jackal]

It’s probably in the pdf too 💀

Can’t believe that actually exists btw

[safe juniper]

cool picture

[harsh junco]

starliner ain't him

[faint portal]

starliner looks like it was taken with an older camera

dragon 2 looks more modern

even the way the earth looks on the cams

(speaking of, what causes the difference between the two with the atmosphere-horizon boundary, on one it looks solid, on the other it looks like a gradient)

[gritty sequoia]

location?

second one looks like it's over an ocean, first is land and ocean

or maybe it just does that sometimes

[dusk ingot]

Looks like an exposure thing tbh

But I'm not a photography expert

[gritty sequoia]

Could be

[little sinew]

WAKE UP BABE
ULA LAUNCH HIGHLIGHTS ARE OUT
https://youtu.be/FqzeCD31SUU

[sage gyro]

https://twitter.com/spacesudoer/status/1799110450694787501

Space Sudoer (@spacesudoer) on X

Boeing employee watching Starship launch during Starliner docking 🫡🫡

Twitter · Jun 7, 2024, 4:05 PM

[keen niche]

Fyi Neil isn't a Boeing employee

[fading mauve]

the first one has more exposure

you can see how the white looks a lot less blown out in the one with dragon

[dusk ingot]

Still funny but yeah lol

[dusk ingot]

Aha I was right!

Glad to know someone who knows about photography agrees with me

Surely this makes me an expert in the subject (the only camera I own is on my phone)

[fading mauve]

lmao

[keen niche]

They regularly will put events like the Superbowl up on the main screen in the FCR's so people can watch during ops

[fading mauve]

i mean i learned a lot of photography with my phone before i had a camera so

[fading mauve]

wait was starship up?

[keen niche]

No a couple console positions watched the launch streams on laptops since it was before the docking windows opened

[fading mauve]

ah that makes more sense

[river sky]

so how's CFT going now?

[harsh junco]

...functional? it should not be having continuous problems still but hey so far haven't put anyone at risk

[cursive crater]

lmfao

[keen niche]

Rooting for LoM with two human beings onboard? That's disgusting and reprehensible

[river sky]

acceptable when it's Boeing I guess

[harsh junco]

lmao that's interesting, I assume that's a plugin? I didn't even know that's possible

yeah I'm on 126.21, the last functional kotlin client

[empty jackal]

Lmaooo

[harsh junco]

oh hey one of you dipshits sent a screenshot of here in artemis and fucking max twang got it lmaooo https://fxtwitter.com/kmh/status/1799153908406726674

[harsh junco]

again I must make the distinction, LOM with crew safe is greatly preferable to a LOCV down the line

[plucky cradle]

[harsh junco]

oh and SG5 is in his replies lmao the echochamber is alive and well I see https://fxtwitter.com/Spaceguy5/status/1799155876135104520

[plucky cradle]

I feel like these guys care more about complaining about space flight then they do space flight

Also twitter is hell dont pay attention

[gritty sequoia]

spitter is either the best thing ever or objectively the worst simultaneously

[harsh junco]

oi @onyx brook go fuck yourself

[distant goblet]

Sis why do you even wish for LoM

[keen niche]

Are statements like this not against the rules?

[harsh junco]

a LOM would result in someone with a brain looking over the program, which would hopefully avert a future LOCV

I don't wish for the death of anyone obviously

[gritty sequoia]

a LOM is safe for the crew, whereas a LOCV is not

[harsh junco]

^^^^

[distant goblet]

??????????

Bruh

[plucky cradle]

While the starliner is a death trap and shouldn’t fly you shouldn’t have wished for lom @harsh junco

[pine cedar]

That is not true at all

A LOM can result in severe injury

A LOCV just means death

[harsh junco]

it can, but that's not what I wish for

[pine cedar]

well maybe specify that before wishing for it

[harsh junco]

....I have, multiple times

LOM with crew safe = good
LOCV = bad

[pine cedar]

What do you mean by crew safe

Because safe simply can mean alive

[distant goblet]

Why do you think people havent look at the program?

[harsh junco]

in good health, on the ground and free of starliner

[distant goblet]

Why do you think starliner is a deathtrap

[pine cedar]

This still doesn’t change the fact that the statement does cross the line

[harsh junco]

McDonnell Douglas

[distant goblet]

[gritty sequoia]

Hypergolic propellant ring a bell?

[distant goblet]

F-15 is based

[harsh junco]

Dragon is also hypergolic lol

[pine cedar]

You realize every crew vehicle uses hypergolic propellent

[harsh junco]

Hypergols aren't my favorite, maybe one day we'll switch to nitrous stuff universally

[gritty sequoia]

true but some concerns with Starliner abort scenarios and landing next to the hypergols

not gud

[harsh junco]

Dragon and every other vehicle using them would have the same concerns

[gritty sequoia]

bigger concerns

[pine cedar]

You wouldn’t be landing next to the hypergols in an actual abort scenario

[distant goblet]

Im literally working with hydrazine on the U-2s

[pine cedar]

In an abort scenario the SM would splash down in the ocean likely further away

[harsh junco]

well, the capsule still has its own RCS, no?

not that it's really that big of a risk

ASTP is the only thing I can think of

[jovial sphinx]

even then the ASTP fiasco was human error

[fading mauve]

the what

[river sky]

🧂

I can’t understand why everyone can’t just celebrate in the success of CFT so far

[gritty sequoia]

it's good (apart from thruster failures), and it adds a new way for crew to get to the station, but it has some problems

and the program as a whole is a bit naff

[jovial sphinx]

The Apollo side of Apollo-Soyuz did a thing upon landing where a bunch of hypergolic RCS fumes nearly killed the astronauts

[fading mauve]

WHAT

[jovial sphinx]

uh yeah

Brand left a swicth on (or off i can't remember), and he also passed out because of the fumes

so uh

yeah

the guys were hospitalized for a few weeks iirc

[fading mauve]

omw to wikipedia

[jovial sphinx]

lmao

the Space Above Us Podcast explains it nicely as well

[formal drift]

The Space Above Us is my favorite podcast ever

[empty jackal]

Artemis?

[empty jackal]

LMAO

[harsh junco]

james holt is a sad, pathetic man lol

[empty jackal]

Also what’s a LOM

[harsh junco]

loss of mission (crew live, cannot complete original mission due to some issue)

vs LOCV (loss of crew and vehicle)

[empty jackal]

Ohh

What’s Artemis tho

Like someone sent it in Artemis?

[onyx brook]

What is this

[harsh junco]

hellish discord server

sg5 and lavie run that shit, should tell you all you need to know

[onyx brook]

https://tenor.com/view/hells-gate-hellsgate-happy-happiest-gif-25583354

[pine cedar]

They don’t run it

[harsh junco]

they moderate it, same difference

[empty jackal]

Sounds fun…

[harsh junco]

except their idea of moderation is banning anyone with a brain lol

[empty jackal]

Are they pro-new space or no

[harsh junco]

LOL

[fading mauve]

can we please not trash talk ppl 👉👈

[harsh junco]

they literally created a whole discord server around the fucking artemis program

you tell me

[empty jackal]

I’m just trying to get a read on the opinions of the place

[harsh junco]

basically take tim and then amp it up like 1000000000000x

[empty jackal]

💀

[pine cedar]

That’s not true at all

[fading mauve]

yall.

[pine cedar]

They didn’t create it

[harsh junco]

you know what I meant lol

[pine cedar]

I don’t know what you meant

[harsh junco]

the server is more or less an oldspace circlejerk

[fading mauve]

argue about this somewhere else that isn’t this server

[harsh junco]

there you go

[pine cedar]

it’s not?

[fading mauve]

…………………….

am i a ghost?

[harsh junco]

at any rate I have to go do something productive so tell sg5 and lavie to eat rocks or something for me please buh bye

[pine cedar]

yeah no I’m not gonna be a dick to people because they have differing opinions on spaceflight 💀

[pine cedar]

Sorry you’re not a ghost, but I will not tolerate people being aggressive to ppl I know and being a mean person in general

[fading mauve]

i was mostly pointing that at miranda but yeah

[keen niche]

I don't have a twitter and I'm not in very many servers but it's shocking how much of the "space community" is just people with personal vendettas against each other

[fading mauve]

r e a l

the drama is insane

like why

[pine cedar]

Also respond to my question in #moderation please thanks

[empty jackal]

Yeah that’s basically just space Twitter in a nutshell

[keen niche]

People like arguing a lot more than they like space lol

[pine cedar]

All the time spent arguing could actually be used contributing to space

[keen niche]

Well there's basically no actual professionals in the industry who frequent these places

[jovial sphinx]

That is the majority of Space Twitter

[jovial sphinx]

the most professional people who frequent it are interns

maybe one or three engineers at private companies

Space Twitter is essentially pure infighting, most of which have to do with basic choices that were made forever ago that people refuse to not complain about
Sometimes someone with an objectively stupid opinion waltzes in and says something stupid and then acts as if they're some sort of martyr against the "mindless masses". In that case everyone comes together to clown on them, laugh about clowning on them, and then get right back to infighting about basic details

[harsh junco]

I hate this misconception that everything has to be professional and friendly tbh

[jovial sphinx]

it doesn't have to be professional, that wasn't what I was implying

was just saying that for the record

kinda prefer majority amateur like this, encourages specualtion and debate

but Twitter really stretches the term "debate."
most of it is someone saying something of varying levels of stupidity, some other person says "typical x fan. you're so dumb because you chose to ignore xyz" or "quit meatriding x" or something of that nature and gets a bajillion updoots

is that a debate, or just
uh
tossing insults or snarky one liners and getting your oh-so-precious gotcha moment

plus since a certain guy is a central figure in the community, the diehards from his posse have kinda merged in with the spitter community, which has made everything objectively more toxic than it has been literally ever

[cursive crater]

calm with the edits dawg

[jovial sphinx]

no i hate typos and i hate them more when im being serious about something

because the last thing i want is to bring up a serious topic and then someone completely ignores what i said and then be like "haha minor spelling mistake"

[cursive crater]

haha serious amount of edits

[jovial sphinx]

anwyays have the 'nauts called down to the White House yet

apparently they were set to

https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-crew-flight-test-astronauts-to-call-white-house-nasa-leaders/

[opaque kettle]

huh? That server was made for SLS not Artemis, Artemis includes a lot more than that

[opaque kettle]

nitrous is probably too low performance to bother with tbh
now, peroxide…

[pine cedar]

It was made for Artemis

We made the server when the 2024 goal was created

[opaque kettle]

maybe I’m thinking of a different server then

There was some server that was made for SLS and related things and then got renamed to Artemis when Artemis showed up

[pine cedar]

We had a group chat for that

[opaque kettle]

Hm, so maybe? I don’t know, but all this also tells me you need better friends

Unless the moderation there is an entirely different crowd than your “we” that is

[pine cedar]

It’s a different group of people who are no longer as active

[opaque kettle]

ok, that’s better then, mb

[keen niche]

https://starlinerupdates.com/starliner-flight-day-2-activities/

Light day on the starliner side of things, as expected

[static crown]

https://tenor.com/view/antman-what-the-hell-happened-here-avengers-gif-18240147

Do some of yall not just get

tired?

I don't even participate in these arguments and even I feel burnt out

[distant goblet]

??????????????

[candid willow]

This is certainly a chat rn

And yeah please don't fucking openly root for crewed missions to fail, even in a non-lethal manner, just because you have a vendetta against the company/program in question

I mean seriously, I normally am fine with you Miranda and I've probably cut you more slack than a lot of people here, but come the fuck on

If you need me to reinforce the point with an analogy then you shouldn't even root for non-lethal LOM on, for example, Virgin Galactic flights, where the argument that it could prevent an inevitable LOCV later might actually hold some water

[fading mauve]

PREACH

[empty jackal]

Rooting for a failure of any mission isn’t something I’m ok with, crewed or not

But it’s especially terrible with crewed

[candid willow]

The only ones I'm okay with rooting against are uncrewed solely military missions

For example Polyus

[static crown]

Yeah ASAT shit should fail

[candid willow]

This TBH

I try not to participate but sometimes I fail

[static crown]

me too...

[empty jackal]

I do agree with this

[cloud herald]

i root against all NK space launches

[empty jackal]

I root against all NK icbm launches, but not their orbital launches

[static crown]

God I wish NK could do a single thing in good faith...

I can only see them start doing science missions if it either has military applications or to compete with SK's space program when they start doing more

[wind laurel]

i root against all unmanned launches, we should stop giving the bots missiles to play with

who knows what theyll pull one of these days

[zealous robin]

I hope they pull out

[bright sedge]

afaik it's satire and nobody should take it seriously (I'm spreading misinformation)

[dusk ingot]

Wtf happened in here 😭

I get rooting for more review of Starliner cos the vibes have been off for a while but it's also undergone a lot already and some very good engineers have seen the issues and are working through solutions. But rooting for LOM is wild and nasty

[wanton smelt]

starliner tour live rn

starliner tour complete

[azure wyvern]

Looks like Starliner has a smaller inner volume than Crew Dragon?
That and the "Boeing aircraft style many-buttons/switches" cockpit certainly makes Starliner looks quite a bit more crowded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRdIMklPow

(for comparison, Dragon Crew-1 with similar amount of bags)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT6BC68UzeY

[keen niche]

Starliner is absolutely packed with cargo right now which is making it look smaller

[cursive basin]

the control stuff looks soo much more cool than stupid touchpad dragon

[zealous robin]

No it doesn't bruh

[cursive basin]

physical buttons >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> booring touchscreen

[static crown]

Mmmmm tactile controls....

[jovial sphinx]

click clack and beep boop is superior and it isn't even by a close margin

[jade kestrel]

^

[arctic hearth]

Looks like Starliner is returning on June 14th landing on Wilcox, Arizona at around 6:30AM local time

Another landing opportunity seems to be available for Utah on the following day at around 1PM local

[candid willow]

It's gonna be very weird seeing an American crew capsule land on land

[pine cedar]

I mean we’ve seen it twice without crew

[candid willow]

True but still

[arctic hearth]

Welp, delayed till the 18th https://x.com/cbs_spacenews/status/1799893301430022244

William Harwood (@cbs_spacenews) on X

Starliner CFT: Flight controllers have told the Starliner crew their undocking and return to Earth is moving from June 14 to June 18 to provide separation for an already planned spacewalk by ISS astronauts Tracy Dyson and Matt Dominick on June 13. NASA will hold a briefing to

Twitter · Jun 9, 2024, 7:56 PM

The good news is that there'll be an EVA while Starliner is docked

So they can take a shot of both Dragon and Starliner with the spacewalkers in view

Like this one from Bob Behnken

[granite dock]

https://x.com/torybruno/status/1800520044809728321

Tory Bruno (@torybruno) on X

OK. Here's one. #CFT

Twitter · Jun 11, 2024, 1:26 PM

[cloud herald]

https://fxtwitter.com/torybruno/status/1800520044809728321

[cursive crater]

OK. Here's one. #CFT

[harsh junco]

OK. Here's one. #CFT

[empty jackal]

OK. Here's one. #CFT

[cloud herald]

OK. Here's one. #CFT

[gritty sequoia]

Ok. Here's one. #CFT

[zealous robin]

Ok. Here's one. #CFT

[narrow path]

Ok. Here's one. #CFT

[keen niche]

https://starlinerupdates.com/starliner-flight-day-6-activities/

All docked flight test objectives complete

[short crest]

https://spacenews.com/fifth-helium-leak-detected-on-starliner/

5 leaks now

1st was found on the ground, 2nd and 3rd during coast, 4th and now 5th found while docked

[empty jackal]

Guh

[plucky cradle]

All starliner and no atlas V news makes Marcus a dull boy

[zealous robin]

Lmfao

So are they gonna have to do another investigation?

[bright sedge]

Google during io time

[jovial sphinx]

Remember when everyone made fun of SLS scrubbing because of hydrogen leaks?

Pepperidge Farm remembers

[faint portal]

ill be perfectly honest, with the performance of this capsule, if i were one of the crew, i would ask for an empty crew dragon capsule to head up to the station to pick me up and for the Starliner capsule to be left to reenter unmanned, maybe its just from what we've seen so far, but with so many leaks and issues with engines, i wouldnt trust the capsule to be safe.

[pine cedar]

None of the issues have been safety threatening

[faint portal]

stuck RCS thrusters could cause issues if they get stuck on when orienting for reentry

if the RCS is stuck off, then the helium leaks could cause problems by throwing the vehicle off-angle

i really hope for the crew's safe return, but i think that this mission shows that there is still a lot of work to be done on starliner before it becomes a routine transport system.

[pine cedar]

The thrusters on the capsule themselves can account for it

And the SM has so many redundant thrusters

[jovial sphinx]

although I wouldn't call Starliner "unsafe," I do think that she has a couple things t'be worked out

but it is cool to see the capusle in action and aside from the helium issues it works like a dream

[pine cedar]

Remember that Dragon literally blew itself up before Demo 2

[jovial sphinx]

(true.)

[pine cedar]

Having issues before operational flights shouldn’t be unexpected

[jovial sphinx]

well
yeah

I'm not disagreeing here

[pine cedar]

And Demo 2 had its fair share of little issues

[harsh junco]

in a ground test on an old capsule in a configuration that would only happen in a ground test

[pine cedar]

it still blew up

[harsh junco]

good lol

[pine cedar]

?

[harsh junco]

massive massive difference between issues on the ground and in the air

[azure wyvern]

I can't quite remember what these are

[jovial sphinx]

yeah me neither

then again i doubt any faults would've received a lot of widespread coverage considering that Demo-2 was very much a matter of national pride

[pine cedar]

It was minor issues

[jovial sphinx]

ah

[pine cedar]

I did say little

[jovial sphinx]

true

my bad

[little sinew]

also, it's been 4 years, memory goes brrrrr

[little sinew]

wh- ho-
https://x.com/Enderman1951/status/1800911212911509729

Enderman1951 (@Enderman1951) on X

@torybruno Hi @torybruno! what would happen to Starliner after Altas V Retirement? (SpaceX Crew Dragon Did 46 Flights.) and Starliner being crew rated now means it needs do more a good amount of flights before retirement

Twitter · Jun 12, 2024, 3:21 PM

why tf do you even need to mention SpX and Crew Dragon (e.g. V2) didn't do 46 flights 💀

[cursive basin]

(Energia Buran Did 34 Flights)

[little sinew]

(real)

[gritty sequoia]

(SLS did 12,000 flights)

[safe juniper]

(Soyuz did 57,000,000,000 flights)

[formal drift]

(Starship did -12 flight)

[jovial sphinx]

(Shenzhou did yes flights)

[plucky cradle]

I think they ment dragon in general

[little sinew]

ye obv but that's still a weird take
and V1 was so different 💀

[plucky cradle]

Yeah

Odd take

[empty jackal]

And why even mention SpaceX

It wasn’t needed 💀

[cursive basin]

V2

https://tenor.com/view/v2-vengeance-vengeance-weapons-v1-german-gif-21651542

[harsh junco]

wake up babe, new starliner gif
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179582303354224773/1250798343370702979/yls78cvp146d1.gif

[empty jackal]

Lmao

[zealous robin]

The fact that that number might actually become true on a single flight lmao

[jovial sphinx]

starliner can get it’s own topical gif ten times

[lime pumice]

When you realise starship flew more times than starliner is just

[little sinew]

Starliner was on orbit twice at least

Also, these are two goddamit different vehicles with different purposes

Literally like comparing Sputnik-1 to Apollo LM or whatever

[opaque kettle]

Hubble only flew once and starship has flown 4 times checkmate liberals

[river sky]

Big Number Better

[zealous robin]

Yes

6 beats 2mm

[zealous robin]

Chang'e 6 has only landed once, falcon 9 has landed 300 times

[gritty sequoia]

The space shuttle flew 133 times successfully, the N-1 flew 4 times unsuccessfully

Checkmate soviets

[cursive basin]

Buran had a 100% success rate

shuttle didnt

[cloud herald]

Thor able flew more times than N1, checkmate soviets

[faint portal]

the UK had more (currently visible) flags on the moon than the US between 1972 and 2024, checkmate americans

(the others have been bleached, the union jack was etched into a solar panel that an engineer from nottingham worked on)

[keen niche]

The intuitive machines lander has like 4 American flags on it

And while tipped over, it is in one piece

[faint portal]

okay, so from 1972-the landing of the IM lander, this was the case