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#Starship Orbital Test Flight
compact tinsel
You can still shit on SLS. I did this morning. 
whole hawk
brittle spire
I should've remembered the stupid flip stage seperation manoeuvre and realized it was going to be the killer
vagrant moat
So how many launches do y'all think it'll take for the thing to actually work
white oyster
Anyone notice what happened around stafe 0 though? People are going to be MAD
vagrant moat
I say 5 before it reaches orbit
white oyster
I would say 2 more before it can sucesfully do an orbit
About 7 or 8 for landing (both)
reef cobalt
I'm thinking next will separate successfully but something will fail during re-entry. I don't trust the tiles atm.
white oyster
I mean, if whatever caused it to spin out didnt happen, i think it could have made it
zealous crystal
I say two or three launches
vagrant moat
I mean, if whatever caused it to spin out didnt happen, i think it could have ma...
Perhaps, but the thing was drifting pretty hard even at liftoff
fast meadow
Someone parked their van too close to the launch pad https://twitter.com/SemrauDylan/status/1649050806577164293?s=20
white oyster
Not sure why they didnt sep
modest heron
They forgor the decoupler
whole moat
I should've remembered the stupid flip stage seperation manoeuvre and realized i...
They did flip the wrong way fwiw
south spindle
Looks like Labpadre caught what happened to the van... https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/1649053476276797440?t=gqELhxye4CNrdTnjHmxtvw&s=19
fast terrace
they replaced Starship with Polyus
white oyster
At least its making my KSP look better XD at least i dont flip out THAT badly lol
paper heron
remote onyx
Spin
fluid bobcat
rich blade
ok I am here
modest heron
No
keen plover
You died
rich blade
still processing what I watched
i need to scroll back in this chat to see what the reaction was to liftoff 
fluid bobcat
https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/1649062784167030785 holy that's massive
rich blade
actually cannot believe ther it went
rich blade
https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/1649062784167030785 holy that's massive
HOLY COW
new crater in south Texas
oak sable
https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/1649062784167030785 holy that's massive
JESUS CHRIST WHAT THE FCK
rich blade
literally just managed to watch it
fluid bobcat
https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/1649062784167030785 holy that's massive
Most clamps broke apparently
zealous crystal
https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/1649062784167030785 holy that's massive
lmaooooo
whole hawk
https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/1649062784167030785 holy that's massive
SpaceX is thinking big and has already started work on the OLM to install the sound suppression system.
modest heron
We don't need flame diverter™️
hollow plaza
whole moat
It also was running like, what, 2100 km/hr at stage sep? That’s not even Mach 2
580 m/s
vagrant moat
https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/1649062784167030785 holy that's massive
Bruhhhhhhh
rich blade
still speechless
I'm happy it managed to fly
and it was funny when it started tumbling
tbh I knew it was gonna fail when I saw how slowly it was accelerating
love how like 5 engines failed in the first few seconds
brittle spire
I knew it was going to be funny when the stage didn't seperate
rich blade
haha yeah lol
gleaming schooner
tbh I knew it was gonna fail when I saw how slowly it was accelerating
ngl i didn't expect it to leave the pad after seeing how slow it was going
tacit kite
MY MODAMERICA TEACHER PUT IT UP ON THE BOARD
rich blade
WAIT DID IT POWERSLIDE OF THE MOUNT??
tacit kite
yep
rich blade
tacit kite
hpu did a funny
rich blade
watching NSF replay
fluid bobcat
did one of the cameras fall off inside one of the tanks?
hollow plaza
WAIT DID IT POWERSLIDE OF THE MOUNT??
Kinda LOL
whole hawk
rich blade
and I can clearly see the POWERSLIDE
hollow plaza
Not as much as rocket 3 but it did a littlw
tacit kite
WE HAVE JONE
tacit kite
i’m not getting shit done the rest of the day
rich blade
NOOO hoppy r u ok
reef cobalt
fast terrace
WAIT DID IT POWERSLIDE OF THE MOUNT??
SEE ASTRA DID IT BEFORE SPACEX
ASTRA NUMBAH ONE
slim kelp
isn't that just NASA?
rich blade
Spacex managed to pull off an Astra and a Firefly in one launch
fast terrace
N1 and Polyus too
rich blade
yeah
white oyster
in nsf chat someone mentioned at 33s the HPU exploded, which you can see in the spacex stream
whole moat
isn't that just NASA?
Convair/USAF I believe
reef cobalt
what are all those number roles you got?
It's the leveling system of the server. I think the more you talk in the server the higher your "level" gets?
white oyster
i mean, how long was it ""flying"" for?
fluid bobcat
in nsf chat someone mentioned at 33s the HPU exploded, which you can see in the ...
What's the hpu and where can u see it
white oyster
What's the hpu and where can u see it
think its hydraulic preassure unit, the box thing on the side with batteries
timestamped, at +33 on their clock, the units facing the cam
raven scroll
It's meant to flip but then it just didn't shut down?
white oyster
also from the sopacex cam looking up into the engines, you can see fire inside where the engines are
fluid bobcat
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1313952039869788173
They already made one today
fluid bobcat
also from the sopacex cam looking up into the engines, you can see fire inside w...
I noticed that, hard to spot tho
white oyster
theres going to be LOADs of analysis of this
cant wait to see what scott manley has to say
remote onyx
https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/1649062784167030785 holy that's massive
That explains the dirt
white oyster
unfortunately, there was worse things than dirt falling it caused 😦
fluid bobcat
theres going to be LOADs of analysis of this
I was playing a football match while watching so I missed tons of stuff
white oyster
like a lot of mess that EPA wont be happy at
i missed the launch, got it a few mins in, which is arguably the better half
rewound though and pretended it was live so i was fully up to speed XD
fluid bobcat
How come the engines never shut down?
white oyster
5 of them did, at one moment a 6th failed but they managed to turn that back on
tacit kite
engine failure? Just fuckin turn it back on lmao
white oyster
on the spacex stream they have a display of both heavy and starship engines with white/black circles depending if theyre active
white oyster
engine failure? Just fuckin turn it back on lmao
just pump more fuel into it]
hollow plaza
5 of them did, at one moment a 6th failed but they managed to turn that back on
Yeah one of the engines fucking turned back on?????
At least on the diagram
white oyster
propably fuel flow issues as they never tested raptors (or booster) in motion like THAT
tacit kite
suprised the damn thing lasted that long
white oyster
im suprised stage0 is "intact"
tacit kite
structural team popping off rn
fluid bobcat
im suprised stage0 is "intact"
Interstage got bent straight away
white oyster
when we get close images its propably got more kinks, dints and breakages than a scrapyard
ebon stratus
Why was it held down so long
white oyster
interstage? the bit that disconnects booster/starship?
white oyster
Why was it held down so long
it needs to remain grounded for 8 seconds as they "stagger" ignition of the engines, otherwise the force of 33 engines firing at the same time would be too much
NSF say it looks like it was fuel rich, would a fuel rich cause more thrust than otherwise be expected?
hollow plaza
Why was it held down so long
Engine ignition sequence takes 6 seconds
fluid bobcat
it needs to remain grounded for 8 seconds as they "stagger" ignition of the engi...
I think less that 33 was a bit too much
hollow plaza
Then they have to all come to power
white oyster
I think less that 33 was a bit too much
least they have a record now though XD or two
raven scroll
Yeah one of the engines fucking turned back on?????
That must've been some bad data, right?
shell python
https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/1649062784167030785 holy that's massive
the ghost of soyuz
fluid bobcat
NSF say it looks like it was fuel rich, would a fuel rich cause more thrust than...
Fuel rich burns a different colour than normal and oxygen rich
raven scroll
Unless they have some in flight restart system
white oyster
where they test raptors individually,t hey have been testing restarting engines repeatedly
mcgreggor*
white oyster
propably computer controled, the computer would check all sensors to make sure it seems fine, and if the sensors read ok it will keep trying
ebon stratus
Jesus Christ
fluid bobcat
Jesus Christ
A change of mind would prevent all this
ebon stratus
Lmao yeah, a diverted would’ve been so cheap too
thick sphinx
It's time to install a flame diverter and come up with Raptor 3
white oyster
<@649817295216050197> so how was it 😁
hes currently speaking on nsf live
rich blade
yeah ik maybe he will see it later
timber relic
<@649817295216050197> so how was it 😁
Brain does not process
rich blade
same
compact tinsel
Lmao yeah, a diverted would’ve been so cheap too
Apparently not
whole moat
Apparently not
remind me why it filling up with water would be bad for a flame trench
white oyster
everyday astronaut "im going to be on that thing!!!"
uuhh maybe you shoulv kept that though till later lol
whole moat
https://twitter.com/JerryPikePhoto/status/1649076135186112514
less tiles dead than I would have expected
still would have killed it had the flight gone nominally up that point
whole hawk
https://twitter.com/JerryPikePhoto/status/1649076135186112514
probably fake, it didn't go that far
compact tinsel
remind me why it filling up with water would be bad for a flame trench
I assume the civil engineer knows why.
thick sphinx
Bad for the concrete and rest of the structure more than anything
Is my understanding
zealous crystal
probably fake, it didn't go that far
I mean, 30km is pretty high
I hope it's real
white oyster
think i saw that shot, but mirrored
whole moat
probably fake, it didn't go that far
39km is still high up enough for the skies to be black I think
ebon stratus
remind me why it filling up with water would be bad for a flame trench
Erosion
compact tinsel
Pretty high for 420
ebon stratus
Undermines the foundation of the structure
zealous crystal
Pretty high for 420
that's funny
whole moat
Undermines the foundation of the structure
ah, ok ✅
also btw starship tiles don’t look like TUFROC to me
pulsar pollen
Reading the public perception of this is a struggle
Everyone be like “Haha Elon stoopid penis rocket go boom”
zealous crystal
zealous crystal
Reading the public perception of this is a struggle
Here's some positive perception
In one week, we had JUICE and the Starship. Eight years of work and a revolution for the launchers respectively.
I need a lemonade and a night of rest
white oyster
might be a real pic? there are confirmed cameras on the flaps themselves (from the last attempt)
zealous crystal
(The author of the tweet worked on JUICE)
compact tinsel
The public should just go back to watching their reality tv shows and stuffing their face with junk food.
pulsar pollen
(The author of the tweet worked on JUICE)
Noice!
pulsar pollen
might be a real pic? there are confirmed cameras on the flaps themselves (from t...
This is real, yes
I’m kinda still processing that Starship has launched
white oyster
i hope spacex releases the full dfootage of flap-cam
zealous crystal
I’m kinda still processing that Starship has launched
I still can't believe what the fuck happened
pulsar pollen
i hope spacex releases the full dfootage of flap-cam
Oh don’t worry
pulsar pollen
It was so fucking cool
pulsar pollen
It reminds me of one of the N1 launches
ebon stratus
The most powerful rocket in history went kaboom
It not just went kaboom, it somersaulted
white oyster
i just loved how it clearly went out of control, but spacex were still trying to kerbal it back on course
pulsar pollen
https://twitter.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1649078364668403713
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
pulsar pollen
All I’m saying is that SLS had a flame diverter and it still damaged the pad and tower
Starship is more powerful than SLS
I connected the dots that Elon couldn’t?
white oyster
what if they make a diverter thats 145 degrees? so its not blasting the nature reserve or equipment, just straight back upards at an angle awat?
remote onyx
I JUST FUCKING LOVE IT
It's quirky
pulsar pollen
what if they make a diverter thats 145 degrees? so its not blasting the nature r...
Would look so phucking metal
It’s been done before with early American rockets
white oyster
its odd how the pad legs have the beams that connect them appear to be intact in a perfect hex shape
ebon stratus
All I’m saying is that SLS had a flame diverter and it still damaged the pad and...
but the damage wasn’t that severe
remote onyx
It seems all the concrete is good though, just rather exposed
pulsar pollen
I wasn’t legitimately criticizing Elon, I know what his thought process was
white oyster
spacex are experimenting on the concrete though?
ebon stratus
It seems all the concrete is good though, just rather exposed
There’s no concrete left at the bottom of the pad
tacit kite
my only hope is that the IMAX camera survived
pulsar pollen
We NEED the footage
white oyster
imax? XD you mean were going to get a cinema 4D of it? XD
pulsar pollen
SpaceX’s edit of this will be phenomenal
remote onyx
There’s no concrete left at the bottom of the pad
All the structure is
pulsar pollen
imax? XD you mean were going to get a cinema 4D of it? XD
Maybe for a future documentary, you never know 🤷🏿♂️
rich blade
https://twitter.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1649078364668403713
oh my god. wow.
@zealous crystal are you alive
zealous crystal
Everything about that launch was bonkers
rich blade
yes it was
zealous crystal
https://twitter.com/theprimaldino/status/1649080382250262530?s=46&t=SMbYM7wvp4yI...
LISTEN TO YOUR LAWYER DAVID
white oyster
sure new vehicles are more efficient and better
but nothing beats an ol' classic
pulsar pollen
Is this the fella who hates starship and loves SLS?
ebon stratus
No
zealous crystal
Is this the fella who hates starship and loves SLS?
He doesn't "hate Starship"
pulsar pollen
Oh
ebon stratus
He doesn’t hate starship
zealous crystal
He has an unconditional love for SLS
pulsar pollen
Got it
rich blade
my lock screen is SLS and my home screen is starship, two SHLLVs, god bless
zealous crystal
But he likes Starship too
ebon stratus
but he’s the biggest pro-SLS guy out there
pulsar pollen
He has an unconditional love for SLS
Felt
zealous crystal
(He even rooted for a success earlier this week)
ebon stratus
Yeah
ebon stratus
And agreed with the sentiment that making it past the tower would be good
white oyster
(huh)
zealous crystal
Two SLHVs entering operation in less than a year
ebon stratus
Two SLHVs entering operation in less than a year
Well
rich blade
Two SLHVs entering operation in less than a year
well
ebon stratus
I’m not sure Starship is entering operation any time soon
pulsar pollen
But I need the good footage of the launch
rich blade
idk if this is operational for starship
shell python
https://twitter.com/RaptorRelight/status/1649056310942666752
no that was a wobbly camera
rich blade
but we can say that two SHLLVs launched within under 6 months
zealous crystal
I’m not sure Starship is entering operation any time soon
Should have said "launched"
pulsar pollen
Starship probably won’t be making a human spaceflight until the end of next year at earliest
zealous crystal
instead of "entering operation"
Two SLHVs launching in less than a year
oh my fucking god
pulsar pollen
And then falcon heavy on Wednesday
whole hawk
pulsar pollen
Not super heavy but cool
rich blade
Starship probably won’t be making a human spaceflight until the end of next year...
prob later
whole hawk
Future astronauts 🥹
zealous crystal
https://twitter.com/mrscbonnell/status/1649048656060772352
FUTURE GENERATIONS 🫡
shell python
in nsf chat someone mentioned at 33s the HPU exploded, which you can see in the ...
nominal
ebon stratus
Technically SLS isn’t in operation yet either
rich blade
I just need the pretty pictures from spacex
zealous crystal
We all need the engineering cams
pulsar pollen
One of the engines straight up exploded on the pad; I need to see that up close
shell python
Apparently not
that’s so fun
shell python
https://twitter.com/JerryPikePhoto/status/1649076135186112514
WAT
shell python
idk if this is operational for starship
far from it lol
rich blade
shell python
Starship probably won’t be making a human spaceflight until the end of next year...
no way at all
rich blade
far from it lol
really
pulsar pollen
I love how I immediately adopt a professional engineering mindset when launches like these happen
obsidian spoke
ik some people are saying starship wont land on moon
pulsar pollen
But when I’m in an exam I’m a fifth grader again
obsidian spoke
im sure some politicians (spacificly in wa and al)
will say we need a new lander
does anyone here doubt it will eventually be sucsessful
thick sphinx
ik some people are saying starship wont land on moon
They aren't very bright and don't understand how testing works if that's the thing
rich blade
need to remember, this is a test program
obsidian spoke
i agree
pulsar pollen
will say we need a new lander
True, but NASA has the end say
rich blade
many more tests to come
obsidian spoke
True, but NASA has the end say
i still think that when amercians return to moon it will be on a starship
pulsar pollen
Unless Congress says “FUCK STARSHIP, PICK SOMEONE ELSE” then Starship remains the chosen option
thick sphinx
I'm gonna say they get orbital next time but botch re-entry
pulsar pollen
I’m thinking that engine flameout will be the issue that plagues starship
shell python
I'm gonna say they get orbital next time but botch re-entry
we’ll see
thick sphinx
Probably 5-6 tries until we get the first completely successful flight. Gotta work on Raptor reliability and a flame diverter
And pressure issues with stage sep
Ofc
pulsar pollen
Probably 5-6 tries until we get the first completely successful flight. Gotta w...
I’m thinking they’ll get it right by try number 5
rich blade
pad looks lonely and hurt
obsidian spoke
Unless Congress says “FUCK STARSHIP, PICK SOMEONE ELSE” then Starship remains th...
you dont think congress will say that
pulsar pollen
They have to rebuild the pad, which will take a while
shell python
this makes me quite worried because R2 was supposed to solve the reliability issues
thick sphinx
pad looks lonely and hurt
It's ok starship was just excavating for the flame diverter
obsidian spoke
i definently think they will
pulsar pollen
you dont think congress will say that
Not all of Congress..
vagrant moat
you dont think congress will say that
That would require them to pay extra for a new lander, so no I don't
obsidian spoke
Not all of Congress..
certain senators from al and washington
thick sphinx
this makes me quite worried because R2 was supposed to solve the reliability iss...
We don't know for sure if it was the raptors or the fuel lines to them
pulsar pollen
We give politicians a lot of shit in spaceflight but they know that this is a test
rich blade
this makes me quite worried because R2 was supposed to solve the reliability iss...
just imagine B4 S20 launching with the R1s
all the engines would shut down violently
pulsar pollen
We’ll be fine
zealous crystal
certain senators from al and washington
Are Alabama and Washington even relevant in terms of numbers of Senators
pulsar pollen
(Kinda?)
zealous crystal
oh
thick sphinx
Every state has 2 senators so yes
ebon stratus
@obsidian spoke already working on a second lander
zealous crystal
Oh wait
pulsar pollen
Its unlikely tho
zealous crystal
there are only 100 Senators
thick sphinx
Are Alabama and Washington even relevant in terms of numbers of Senators
Also both of these are decent sized states
obsidian spoke
Twitter
celest silo
they should on ramp another lander asap
pulsar pollen
https://twitter.com/RaptorRelight/status/1649074269769326594?s=20
DAYUM
rich blade
just realised next starship flight with tiles and flaps will be 28 and whatever booster will go with it
zealous crystal
there are only 100 Senators
I thought it was bigger than our Parliament (577 MPs)
obsidian spoke
they should on ramp another lander asap
still dont think it would be done in time
thick sphinx
https://twitter.com/RaptorRelight/status/1649074269769326594?s=20
Flame diverter is an engineering challenge for sure but it won't be that hard to do
ebon stratus
I thought it was bigger than our Parliament (577 MPs)
The House of Reps has 435 members I believe
celest silo
still dont think it would be done in time
Nobody is going to hit 2025, I think 2027 is possible
pulsar pollen
Flame diverter is an engineering challenge for sure but it won't be *that* hard ...
They’re very close to the ocean, remember that
Digging next to the ocean is always hard
zealous crystal
The House of Reps has 435 members I believe
That's really small for the third most populated country in the world
rich blade
sea launch it 
zealous crystal
But you do have local Senates
obsidian spoke
zealous crystal
so I guess it's ok
thick sphinx
They’re very close to the ocean, remember that
I live in Florida, I know lol
vagrant moat
The House of Reps has 435 members I believe
435 members plus the 6 non-voting delegates from each territory and DC
shell python
just imagine B4 S20 launching with the R1s <:kekw:753037648293265520>
woild sound even more like STS-93 than this did
obsidian spoke
people in enviromental groups are gonna have a hay day trying to stop
rich blade
woild sound even more like STS-93 than this did
lmao
shell python
i want to here the lcc loops
ebon stratus
That's really small for the third most populated country in the world
The whole of Congress is 535
rich blade
"we dont need any more of these"
vagrant moat
https://twitter.com/ESGhound/status/1649070286946422786?s=20
ESG Hound is a meme
pulsar pollen
Anyways this delays Artemis III by a lot
shell python
We don't know for sure if it was the raptors or the fuel lines to them
didn’t one RUD
obsidian spoke
Twitter
zealous crystal
The whole of Congress is 535
French Senate + National Assembly is 925
obsidian spoke
and amerispace is saying same
shell python
Are Alabama and Washington even relevant in terms of numbers of Senators
each state gets 2
pulsar pollen
Hm
zealous crystal
Stage Senator
pulsar pollen
and amerispace is saying same
Interesting
zealous crystal
vagrant moat
https://twitter.com/AmericaSpace/status/1649065572108324869?s=20
Stop trusting random posts from Twitter and spamming them in here
ebon stratus
Anyways this delays Artemis III by a lot
Eh not really
pulsar pollen
Artemis III is already delayed anyway, so who cares
Fair lol
rich blade
A3 would be delayed if this detonated on the pad
whole moat
https://twitter.com/ESGhound/status/1649070286946422786?s=20
ugh that guy
ebon stratus
HLS will be the lander, won’t it?
Yes
rich blade
fact that yes, some damaged happened, but the pad and tower are mostly good
ebon stratus
But SFT failure doesn’t affect the schedule for HLS
Assuming they prepped the schedule to be ready for a fail like this
shell python
they should on ramp another lander asap
this was expected lmao
pulsar pollen
Assuming they prepped the schedule to be ready for a fail like this
But did they? 
ebon stratus
Well, NASA did expect this to fail
And yeah, NASA is already working on a new lander
celest silo
this was expected lmao
It was expected, they should still onramp another lander asap
ebon stratus
It was expected, they should still onramp another lander asap
It takes time
vagrant moat
And yeah, NASA is already working on a new lander
Which won't be eligible for A3 but yes
ebon stratus
the second lander won’t be ready until at least 2028
rich blade
is it national team?
pulsar pollen
HLS will only be used for Artemis III then, right?
ebon stratus
is it national team?
Between National Team and DHLS
ebon stratus
HLS will only be used for Artemis III then, right?
Correct
celest silo
Maybe we could buy one lest b2 bomber and send that money nasas way
ebon stratus
Maybe we could buy one lest b2 bomber and send that money nasas way
We don’t build B2s anymore
celest silo
We don’t build B2s anymore
Theres a new one coming out
vagrant moat
Maybe we could buy one lest b2 bomber and send that money nasas way
Agreed but also fat chance
whole hawk
ebon stratus
Theres a new one coming out
It’s much cheaper than the B2
rich blade
<:stare:948044683907592202>
🫡
ebon stratus
And the money from that wouldn’t be enough to fund a second lander
zealous crystal
<:stare:948044683907592202>
🫡
ebon stratus
The second lander is supposed to have more human capability as well
whole hawk
celest silo
It’s much cheaper than the B2
Its still like half a billion
ebon stratus
Its still like half a billion
A new lander would cost 5 billion at least
celest silo
A new lander would cost 5 billion at least
JC if I half to explain every dime that the US could not spend on military we could have 10 landers
rich blade
yknow im so surprised the thing didnt break apart when it was spinning
ebon stratus
Also we need the B21 to replace our aging bomber fleet
celest silo
AHHHH no we dont, we wont be bombing anything for the next 5 years we can weight
wait
next sierra
all the engines would shut down violently
They wouldn't ever light in the first place
rich blade
id love a more detailed shot like this
west umbra
I wonder if some of the engine issues were caused by the concrete explosion
shell python
Twitter
vagrant moat
Today really is attracting the lurkers to this server isn't it
whole hawk
rich blade
the coundown went really well today
rich blade
https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1649089801797378048?s=46&t=SMbYM7wvp4yImXva6dT...
YES
oak sable
the coundown went really well today
that was hilarious when they continued at T-30s 
zealous crystal
https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1649089801797378048?s=46&t=SMbYM7wvp4yImXva6dT...
OH HELL FUCKING YEAH
rich blade
tim and marys reactions to the launch are so funny lmao
tacit kite
B7 died as it lived: surviving increasingly severe failures
shell python
Twitter
rich blade
B7 died as it lived: surviving increasingly severe failures
truee
zealous crystal
So just HOW fucked is the OLM?
Very fucked
rich blade
big crater
obsidian spoke
do we know how damaged the tower is
rich blade
havent seen the BQD or the hold downs
obsidian spoke
that is prob hardest to rebuild
rich blade
tower seems to be fine
obsidian spoke
i love all the starship will never launch from texas takes
rich blade
well it did
vagrant moat
I mean tbf it probably won't launch from Texas a lot
oak sable
well, almost 
rich blade
test flights will occur
vagrant moat
Operations will likely move to Canaveral down the line
But yeah
Test flights will of course happen from Boca
rich blade
HLS will probably launch from Florida
vagrant moat
Yeah
whole hawk
rich blade
EDA has some sick footage
rich blade
suboptimal
whole hawk
ebon stratus
HLS will probably launch from Florida
It’s required
rich blade
fair
oak sable
https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1649091753922924545
Orbit 2025
obsidian spoke
Operations will likely move to Canaveral down the line
not launch again from tx
rich blade
lot of work to do
rich blade
not launch again from tx
yeah ur right, starship is getting scrapped, no more flights
cancelled
just like terran 1
better start tearing down all the purpose built infrastructure and GSE
vagrant moat
not launch again from tx
They'll launch again from Texas, I mean like, years down the line
obsidian spoke
They'll launch again from Texas, I mean like, *years* down the line
i think it will be less than years down line
ebon stratus
I’m curious how SpaceX will manage to get Starship reliable enough to support the HLS refueling flights
pulsar pollen
the space cowboys will find a way
the space cowboys always find a way
I REALIZE WHY THE ROCKET FLIPPED
rich blade
hold on i need to scroll back in this chat to see the reactions to the flight
whole hawk
Twitter
pulsar pollen
The separation command was given, but the computer didn't know that B7 was still attached (because of broken sep joints)
The Booster then began it's turnaround maneuver with the upper stage attached
vagrant moat
i think it will be less than years down line
No I mean they'll move operations years down the line
pulsar pollen
> 🇺🇸 | NOW: Tesla shares plunge 8% after failed Starship launch.
expected
whole hawk
While the price of SpaceX is rising right now.
pulsar pollen
Well yeah
They just launched the bigges rocket known to man
Telsa shareowners and SpaceX shareowners are very different breeds of human
whole moat
“We blew up the biggest rocket ever made” -SpaceX
rich blade
not gonna be seeing any testing for a bit now
whole moat
and yet the tank watchers will never have rest
burnt bloom
The separation command was given, but the computer didn't know that B7 was still...
Is this your theory or something you read
shell python
No injuries
brittle spire
How extensive is the damage to the launch site?
I've seen the crater and the tank farm damage
But beyond that is there more known?
shell python
brittle spire
Is this your theory or something you read
Tbh it makes sense
rich blade
actually kinda makes sense
i thought it was cuz of the asymmetric thrust and tat apparently the "interstage" crumbled a bit
thick sphinx
Today really is attracting the lurkers to this server isn't it
like me 🤭
burnt bloom
Ywha. That crumble was bad
rich blade
i mustve missed it but it probably was
thick sphinx
yea
I'm really not worried about the vehicle issues, SpX can fix those and rebound in a month or two
I'm worried about the launchpad issues
whole hawk
One of GSE's LOX tanks is leaking
brittle spire
I think it's not weird to say that interstage crumbled, which meant the seperation mechanic didn't work
And then the first stage tried to do it's return to water, which got overcomplicated about that pecky Starship not wanting to let go
rich blade
i think structural stability is overall mostly positive tho(yes ik the interstage was screwed), the thing stayed as one piece as it was flipping,
rich blade
One of GSE's LOX tanks is leaking
fr?
brittle spire
Of all the Elon quotes, "we don't need a flame diverter" must've aged the worst
rich blade
yeah true
whole hawk
Another leak
brittle spire
What am I looking at even
thick sphinx
Of all the Elon quotes, "we don't need a flame diverter" must've aged the worst
Yea, completely ignoring that might have murdered the project timeline if they have to get one
rich blade
Another leak
how did u get this
whole hawk
It's jumping all over the servers
rich blade
also suboptimal
rich blade
yeah haha
thick sphinx
That one is one of the easier problems to solve here yea
vagrant moat
Another leak
Bruhhhhhh
burnt bloom
Another leak
What’s that at bottom
brittle spire
Another leak
Not even strange, interstage isn't designed for those loads + already weakened by the well crippling
rich blade
just realised, we still havent had a ful 33 engines fire
maybe we did for a brief moment
whole hawk
What’s that at bottom
the upper part of B7
burnt bloom
Ah. All buckled
rich blade
spacex demonstrated today what a typical KSP2 launch looks like
evidently forgot to add struts between booster and ship
brittle spire
TBH it was such a KSP failure
remote onyx
Another leak
did sep
brittle spire
you can easily make a joke about "check your staging"
pulsar pollen
Is this your theory or something you read
personal theory
remote onyx
recration in vc
ebon stratus
Im a little worried about the environmental repercussion from environmental groups
whole hawk
thick sphinx
Im a little worried about the environmental repercussion from environmental grou...
The environment will be fine, I'm more worried about the infrastructure
Like it can be rebuilt as it was but then you have the same problem set up to happen again
ebon stratus
The environment will be fine, I'm more worried about the infrastructure
Nah, dumping a couple thousand tons of unburned methane into the atmosphere is not considered fine by environmental groups
rich blade
saturn vibes
vagrant moat
https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1649097558386688001
Uhhhhh
thick sphinx
https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1649097558386688001
fucking yikes
ebon stratus
There’s also the issue of the fact that particulate dug up by the launch vehicle during ignition started raining down miles away
whole hawk
Telemetry
thick sphinx
There’s also the issue of the fact that particulate dug up by the launch vehicle...
all of this could have been solved by a flame diverter
rich blade
https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1649097558386688001
oh damn, that concrete mustve been launched incredibly, hopefully theyre ok
ebon stratus
all of this could have been solved by a flame diverter
Yeah lmao
shell python
The environment will be fine, I'm more worried about the infrastructure
they just blasted debris into the ocean and protected wetlands and dumped like 100+ tons of methane into the upper atmosphere, that’s not going to go over well
rich blade
life
shell python
all of this could have been solved by a flame diverter
but mars won’t have a flame diverter when we get there
vagrant moat
So why didn't they want a flame diverter again?
modest heron
Because Elon tought he was smart
thick sphinx
but mars won’t have a flame diverter when we get there <:stare:94804468390759220...
Super heavy doesn't launch from Mars
ebon stratus
So *why* didn't they want a flame diverter again?
Apparently too hard
remote onyx
how is is this hard to acuratly recreate the death
thick sphinx
So *why* didn't they want a flame diverter again?
Long certification process + digging deep in those lowlands by the ocean is hard cos you need to dredge
vagrant moat
Gotcha
rich blade
look, theres a lot of problems now, but lets enjoy the moment before we have to worry about the issues
thick sphinx
look, theres a lot of problems now, but lets enjoy the moment before we have to ...
im absolutely elated for the ship
rich blade
Because the water is gonna wanna see in
water deluge system
thick sphinx
my heavy worry is for stage zero
ebon stratus
To have a flame diverter it would look a lot closer to LC39
vagrant moat
So... what do we do now?
thick sphinx
We? Watch
remote onyx
wait for news
vagrant moat
What do they do now?
thick sphinx
SpaceX's civil engineers responsible for launchpad infrastructure have a time and a half ahead of them
shell python
Super heavy doesn't launch from Mars
wasn’t that the excuse though?
with ship anyway?
rich blade
So... what do we do now?
no idea
watch them repair stuff and wait for S26 or B9 to rollout
thick sphinx
wasn’t that the excuse though?
note how all the ship launches were fine and the pads weren't damaged by takeoff
rich blade
note how all the ship launches were fine and the pads weren't damaged by takeoff
the ship used 3 raptors
thick sphinx
landing mayhaps but thats a different story
rich blade
this is THIRTY THREE
shell python
What do *they* do now?
prob spend a week cataloging damage, then analyze and start rebuild. a lot of the tank farm will probably be replaced with the pre-bought tanks
shell python
note how all the ship launches were fine and the pads weren't damaged by takeoff
they blew concrete into engines A LOT in early campaigns
rich blade
they blew concrete into engines A LOT in early campaigns
sn8 moment
shell python
watch them repair stuff and wait for S26 or B9 to rollout
B9 is gonna be a bit
rich blade
B9 is gonna be a bit
yeah
thick sphinx
the ship used 3 raptors
that's my point, you don't need a flame diverter on mars for 3 raptors, you need one on Earth for 33 of them
rich blade
that's my point, you don't need a flame diverter on mars for 3 raptors, you need...
ah i see, fair
vagrant moat
prob spend a week cataloging damage, then analyze and start rebuild. a lot of th...
So basically they're gonna redo the OLM again with all the shit they should have done already then?
thick sphinx
S26 and B9 shouldn't take too long. Next raptors may take a sec. Stage 0 could take years in the worst scenario
shell python
So basically they're gonna redo the OLM again with all the shit they should have...
probably not a complete rebuild but the thing doesn’t have a foundation left
vagrant moat
Gotcha
rich blade
well, at least the stack didnt rud on the pad
shell python
S26 and B9 shouldn't take too long. Next raptors may take a sec. Stage 0 could...
they’ve gotta fix the raptor stuff
Raptor 2 was supposed to solve flight reliability issues
vagrant moat
This went about as well as I hoped it would TBH
thick sphinx
worth pointing out it was on a nominal flight path even with that many engines out
thick sphinx
but not for humans no
shell python
redundancy is great but saying one engine going out is fine is gonna fuck them so hard
modest heron
worth pointing out it was on a nominal flight path even with that many engines o...
Was it tho
thick sphinx
This went about as well as I hoped it would TBH
for the ship absolutely
shell python
if one engine can fail every engine can fail
rich blade
losing 25% of engines in first stage flight is not acceptable
how many did they lose in the end
i saw 5
at one point
vagrant moat
thick sphinx
Was it tho
i mean the trajectory was good up until it got a little spinny but that wasn't cos of the lack of raptors
shell python
well, at least the stack didnt rud on the pad
true, part of me is glad they just went ahead and said sent it
rich blade
true, part of me is glad they just went ahead and said sent it
yeah
shell python
This went about as well as I hoped it would TBH
if it sepped it might’ve made it to orbit
keen plover
losing 25% of engines in first stage flight is not acceptable
that assumes its a raptor issue and not concrete damage
thick sphinx
true, part of me is glad they just went ahead and said sent it
I'm very glad cos we wouldn't know anything otherwise
shell python
abner gets to swim with rocket parts 🥰
rich blade
was kinda hoping for sep
vagrant moat
Who the fuck is abner
rich blade
but idk if it staged so early i dont think te ship would ave the TWR to get to orbit
keen plover
it could be that w/o the concrete damage we would have had a flawless s1 performance, who knows
shell python
that assumes its a raptor issue and not concrete damage
engines were going down in flight, so while some may have been concrete not all
keen plover
who says the effects have to be immediate?
rich blade
true
shell python
Who the fuck is abner
we need a shark named abner director
thick sphinx
it's not something we can say for sure but yea it's worth pointing out
vagrant moat
I still don't understand
thick sphinx
cos at the launch mounts the raptors have been very reliable recently
shell python
who says the effects have to be immediate?
true ig
rich blade
certified "yikes, you bet, concur, we dont need any more of these" moment
keen plover
engine damage doesnt always happen immediately. This was something that happened a ton in SSME development
shell python
I still don't understand
isro launch 3rd party subtitles, that’s where critical yoga and orbit orbit came from too
keen plover
at leats on the + side it seems the failures, w/e the cause were well contained
vagrant moat
Ah
shell python
engine damage doesnt always happen immediately. This was something that happened...
wonder if HPU boom boom was related
shell python
at leats on the + side it seems the failures, w/e the cause were well contained
didn’t one take out neighbors?
keen plover
didn’t one take out neighbors?
well by well contained I more mean not SN11
vagrant moat
didn’t one take out neighbors?
Not a good sign
keen plover
though ideally non of its neighbors are taken out
but again we wouldnt even know for sure if that was the cause
shell python
well by well contained I more mean not SN11
do we even know what happened
keen plover
SN11?
shell python
though ideally non of its neighbors are taken out
need an octaweb
keen plover
That was a hard start of the raptors during the relight
keen plover
apparently some electrical stuff for engine control avionics got burned on ascent from a methane leak
shell python
apparently some electrical stuff for engine control avionics got burned on ascen...
well yeah they also blew up the hydraulics
keen plover
im still salty SN11 launched in fog
rich blade
im still salty SN11 launched in fog
everyone is
keen plover
we could have seen an epic RUD
oak sable
S26 and B9 shouldn't take too long. Next raptors may take a sec. Stage 0 could...
just launch them from Suborbital Pad 
modest heron
https://twitter.com/wapodavenport/status/1649109929968402444?t=wDphkok_BuZDghf9G...
🐢
craggy adder
so, just roll it out to the road, and since there's a slope on the road it can act as a flame diverter
launch from asphalt
whole moat
Nah, dumping a couple thousand tons of unburned methane into the atmosphere is n...
given the firey nature of the breakup and the fact that there’s just about one thousand tons of methane on Superheavy+starship combined I don’t think we’re at much risk of that happening
vagrant moat
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/395473001975513102/880469975838634094/u...
Lmao nice
modest heron
https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1649097558386688001
I hope that's not true but..
https://vxtwitter.com/DutchSpace/status/1649105408382861317
whole moat
if it sepped it might’ve made it to orbit
I really don’t think so, it was only moving at best 580 m/s
rich blade
I hope that's not true but..
https://vxtwitter.com/DutchSpace/status/16491054083...
bit of concrete wont do much harm
whole moat
plus if the QD didn’t close and it was leaking lox it wouldn’t have the propellant even for a normal flight to orbit let alone this barely boosted situation
oak sable
I hope that's not true but..
https://vxtwitter.com/DutchSpace/status/16491054083...
Fish:
rich blade
EPIC FAIL!
shell python
I really don’t think so, it was only moving at best 580 m/s
oh yeah that’s true
oak sable
white oyster
wow the tank farm took a fair beating
rich blade
white oyster
doesnt it take 8 sec to light them all?
i think there was a slight delay at T0 though?
rich blade
maybe they were counting down to ignition like ariane 5
oak sable
i wanna see all the nuked landscape
I heard that RGV is out flying already
undone gull
yep
oak sable
(tho I'm too to confirm)
undone gull
no, he does flyovers above the tfr
white oyster
oohh plane guy
oak sable
the guy who provides aerial photographery, been doing it since early Starhopper age
tacit kite
that was certainly the flight test of all time
undone gull
so just to mention it, this was only 90% thrust, plus they plan to increase the power of raptor
im honestly terrified
undone gull
starship is scarily powerful
white oyster
the blue flames were cool, though oddly i think only one half was blue? the other half was more red?
tacit kite
at least I got a new lockscreen
white oyster
at least I got a new lockscreen
the "flamey end up, pointy end down"?
tacit kite
white oyster
OOOHHH
fluid bobcat
Flame diverter is an engineering challenge for sure but it won't be *that* hard ...
better than chunks of concrete and dirt flying about
white oyster
better than chunks of concrete and dirt flying about
and dead birds.... oh lord the dead BBQ'd birds...
nature people are going to have a field day of suing spacex for killing wildlife
true aspen
Damn the engines were dyinnng
tacit kite
one of them died so hard it started working again 💀
oak sable
oak sable
just like me every monday
modest heron
one of them died so hard it started working again 💀
ZombieShip
next sierra
Super heavy stages that low??
I think on a nominal flight it should be more like 80, but yeah
true aspen
Yeah that definetly makes more sense, kind weird that the UI was showing extremely low fuel levels on super heavy near when the boom boom happened
ebon stratus
Yeah that definetly makes more sense, kind weird that the UI was showing extreme...
Apparently there was a leak
shell python
maybe they were counting down to ignition like ariane 5
ignition at T-2
true aspen
Oh damn so it went kind of a bit worse than I thought
next sierra
Apparently there was a leak
The "leak" was from the ship EC lines
shell python
so just to mention it, this was only 90% thrust, plus they plan to increase the ...
wait w h a t
you sure that wasn’t 100 with the dead ones?
pulsar pollen
nope
next sierra
ignition at T-2
I think the clock was just off
true aspen
Was watching it in school with no volume
undone gull
you sure that wasn’t 100 with the dead ones?
I’m sure
pulsar pollen
They only went to 90% thrust
true aspen
Time to rewatch it
undone gull
That was only 90% thrust
next sierra
you sure that wasn’t 100 with the dead ones?
Nope, Elon said after the 31 engine SF that they were only running them at 90% for the flight
keen plover
I though they throttled up to 100% once they cleared the tower?
next sierra
With 8 engines out and probably reduced performance on the remaining ones... yeahhhh
pulsar pollen
I though they throttled up to 100% once they cleared the tower?
nope
true aspen
Any reason why so many engines were hmmm like acting a bit weird?
undone gull
Concrete
pulsar pollen
Any reason why so many engines were hmmm like acting a bit weird?
a bunch of them flamed out
and one or more of the engines prob exploded before liftoff which may have damaged others
next sierra
Concrete or imo more likely issues with the propellant feed system
pulsar pollen
(or maybe they just failed to light)
true aspen
Guess it’s time to get a flame diverter
pulsar pollen
Concrete or imo more likely issues with the propellant feed system
yeah this
I cannot believe that this thing had TWICE THE LIFT AS THE SATURN V
16 MILLION POUNDS HOLY DHIT
shell python
Nope, Elon said after the 31 engine SF that they were only running them at 90% f...
why would they do that
in flight
next sierra
why would they do that
Try to be a little gentler
keen plover
so when John said on stream that they "throttled down and throttled back up" was that some sort of max Q throttling?
next sierra
16 MILLION POUNDS HOLY DHIT
Towards the end it "only" had a maximum of about 11.4m lbf
pulsar pollen
"only"
I get what you mean tho
but still that's probably the heaviest launch we'll see for a long time
(As in heaviest type of rocket)
next sierra
so when John said on stream that they "throttled down and throttled back up" was...
Yeah, which is also a goofy move to limit loading because for a while now Starship was supposed to punch through Max-Q without throttling a la Saturn V / Alpha
true aspen
One hell of a launch that’s for sure
shell python
Try to be a little gentler
with 25% down?
shell python
so when John said on stream that they "throttled down and throttled back up" was...
he’s
yes
i wonder if they knew with certainty it would fail internally
pulsar pollen
https://tenor.com/view/finding-nemo-bags-floating-stuck-now-what-gif-5473087
we wait for the next test in roughly six to nine months (best case scenario)
placid nova
my only hope is that the IMAX camera survived
Im sorry, the what now
tacit kite
the IMAX camera at the top of the tower
shell python
Only was a little late to test witch didn't matter
so real
keen plover
https://tenor.com/view/finding-nemo-bags-floating-stuck-now-what-gif-5473087
We watch them use the new crater as a basis for the new flame trench
loud spire
Already dug for them
white oyster
who needs an excavator
keen plover
clearly we need to bring atoms for peace back
keen plover
Any ideas why the raptors failed?
nobody knows for sure rn
indigo frigate
Did you guys see the raptor that supposedly restarted in flight? Same one 5 seconds after restart made a big orange plume
keen plover
I would imagine at least part of it is damage from flying concrete but we have no idea how much was/wasnt caused by it and how much is just raptor moment
shell python
We watch them use the new crater as a basis for the new flame trench <:kekw:7530...
soyuz arc
white oyster
how deep is the hole? like a few stories?
keen plover
clearly we need to launch super heavy heavy to dig out the rest of the trench
true aspen
Starship just pulled a firefly aerospace alpha flight 1
keen plover
pretty deep
proven field
Any ideas why the raptors failed?
Probable reasons:
-
Several engines at launch got hit by flying debris or damaged by unplanned acoustic levels, leak fuel and started engine bay fire that damaged a few more and the HPU.
-
One or more engines blew and started a fire (physical barriers are to be added from B9)
-
One or more engines shut down due to excess vibrations or pogo oscillation
-
Just random internal early Raptor 2 failures happening at once
pulsar pollen
Did you guys see the raptor that supposedly restarted in flight? Same one 5 seco...
It looked like it burnt out to me.
white oyster
im suprised the foundations seem intact compared to the concrete
keen plover
Starship just pulled a firefly aerospace alpha flight 1 <:TrollPolite:9018788352...
unironically, yes
indigo frigate
Probable reasons:
* Several engines at launch got hit by flying debris or damag...
cheers bud
remote onyx
wow the tank farm took a fair beating
Isn't it multiple layers
white oyster
not sure, all of them seem dinted though
indigo frigate
I found out that starship actually didnt lose directional control at all until attempted flip separation. Only reason it started tumbling was the failure to separate
loud spire
Nsf van got bonked by pad peices
white oyster
it was strafing a lot though, so that wouldnt have helped it to detach
white oyster
Nsf van got bonked by pad peices
its only a dint, it will buff out
shell python
I found out that starship actually didnt lose directional control at all until a...
it started the twig snap maneuver but didn’t complete
indigo frigate
I assumed at first the asymmetric thrust caused the tumbling but the tumbling was on a different axis to the engine outs
shell python
plus a good ol leak
indigo frigate
engine outs seemed to be biased to one half
loud spire
Fuel delivery issue maybe
remote onyx
How is it supposed to sep, I'm still confused by that
true aspen
Didn’t outer and inner engines fail
indigo frigate
supposed to LOB the starship lmao
white oyster
hey, yes the rocket had 33+1 problems
but at least it left the pad nd spacex has a lot of data to learn from
true aspen
How is it supposed to sep, I'm still confused by that
Same, that flip looked EXTREME
indigo frigate
overhand throw that mf
remote onyx
With the engine out in pairs I feel that's definitely pointing to concrete damage rather that mechanical issues
indigo frigate
The idea is, they dont want ullage thrusters or to have to relight stage 1 engines, So they throttle down the stage 1 engines, start starship upper stage, begin turn and separate all at the same time
keen plover
How is it supposed to sep, I'm still confused by that
Conservation of angular/linear momentum means that if you separate when spinning they naturally seperate
white oyster
starship doesnt have anything to "push" it from what i know, spacex let gravity and momentum to carry starship on, but i heard the locking pins got crushed so they were stuck together
indigo frigate
The first stage engines arent meant to relight until final landing burn
I wonder if pogo oscilations caused pins to be crushed
next sierra
With the engine out in pairs I feel that's definitely pointing to concrete damag...
The feed lines are parallel to each other, if one gets severed it's fairly likely the next one over will as well
loud spire
Also interstage crushed right
white oyster
yeah would have been oscilations or something causing the pins to "bite in", a bit like an impact driver
remote onyx
Yeah, could also be that the lack of power meant it didn't turn fast enough and all stuck together
indigo frigate
I wonder if that side is the one which faced something on the ground
Lets try and figure out
white oyster
can see its biased toward one side of the vehicle
i wouls have assumed the computer reduces thrust on the "better side" and increase thrust on the "hindered" though, to balance out
true aspen
That flip was insane for such a large vehicle
indigo frigate
Would ya look at that, the side with the engines out, faced the big concrete block on the base of the lift tower
true aspen
Those 15 degrees really do a lot
indigo frigate
clearly would have higher debris, and higher sound energy on that side of the vehicle
Do yall concur
remote onyx
Would ya look at that, the side with the engines out, faced the big concrete blo...
Are they not on the heat shield side
rich blade
where is this pic from my god
indigo frigate
Are they not on the heat shield side
I put an image before of it in flight with the maximum number of engine outs.
keen plover
where is this pic from my god
John Kraus's twitter IIRC
shell python
How is it supposed to sep, I'm still confused by that
like a twig snap
remote onyx
I'm still confused how they thought the thin layer of concrete would work on the pad, clearly the big blocks of the foundations were strong enough, why not all that depth
shell python
indigo frigate
thats a lotta engine outs
next sierra
Eight engines in total
remote onyx
like a twig snap
So it's not intended to turn with the ship atall, that was a whoops
next sierra
So it's not intended to turn with the ship atall, that was a whoops
It is
The pitch up is intended
umbral karma
I thought they fixed all the raptor problems
next sierra
The ship is supposed to actually let go though
shell python
The idea is, they dont want ullage thrusters or to have to relight stage 1 engin...
the recontact risk 😭😭
umbral karma
The rapidly reusable engine can't even be used once
white oyster
hmm i wonder if my minecraft cave is deep enough to put B7 into
indigo frigate
The rapidly reusable engine can't even be used once
Early days my friend
keen plover
I am curious, if the interstage collapsed on B7 (which it appears to have), do they just intend to fix this issue on B9 (assuming this wasnt known before and rectified), or just forget about the current gen boosters
shell python
So it's not intended to turn with the ship atall, that was a whoops
yes but no?
shell python
The rapidly reusable engine can't even be used once
the entire system can be reused 10 time tho
indigo frigate
I am curious, if the interstage collapsed on B7 (which it appears to have), do t...
There was an image floating around looking down at a collapsed interstage
It looked very real
currently trying to find it
modest heron
the entire system can be reused 10 time tho
[insert spinning Starship gif]
keen plover
There was an image floating around looking down at a collapsed interstage
Yeah i saw it
rich blade
literally so many cool pics from today
shell python
cant believe they actually flew it in april
remote onyx
yes but no?
So is supposed to do 2nd pic but instead did 3rd?
loud spire
shell python
So is supposed to do 2nd pic but instead did 3rd?
yeah
loud spire
Another leak
That's during fts
rich blade
wait ur teachers/friends care about spaceflight?
loud spire
Yes
shell python
wait ur teachers/friends care about spaceflight? <:TrollPolite:90187883525820011...
it was my aero class, so yeah
she was proctoring staar this morning so she couldn’t watch so i convinced her to pop it on the projector
white oyster
i see an aristotle thing
shell python
so then we could talk about it
i was giving commentary on it talking about the failures and the HPU blows and stuff
indigo frigate
God damn this guys photos are insane
rich blade
clicked on SBL expecting to see a fullstack 💀
indigo frigate
indigo frigate
damn even with reverse search I cant find where that image came from
rich blade
God damn this guys photos are insane
or this one
indigo frigate
beautiful
rich blade
these two are beautiful
umbral karma
Any pics of pad damage yet?
vagrant moat
Someone send the crater
modest heron
Any pics of pad damage yet?
Yeah
rich blade
https://www.johnkrausphotos.com/Galleries/Launches/Starship-Flight-Test-1/i-6jJV...
god damn this shot
modest heron
Any pics of pad damage yet?
rich blade
hoppy is not dead
pulsar pollen
hoppy just got a small bruise is all
white oyster
someone hurt hoppy? WHO HURT HOPPY?!
pulsar pollen
They better put a comically large bandade on Hoppy
whole moat
someone hurt hoppy? WHO HURT HOPPY?!
24/7 by means of pad ejecta
umbral karma
A lot of good the 'virtual flame diverter' snakeoil did
I knew that sounded stupid from the start
It basically dug the OLM out the ground
Thats insane
Good job they made the piles very deep
tacit kite
this image gets more deep fried every time I see it
indigo frigate
Another leak
Where you get these images
pulsar pollen
this image gets more deep fried every time I see it
cuz people keep on screenshotting it
indigo frigate
deepfried.png
tacit kite
too many pixels
remote onyx
Still my favorite shot
Because n$f death?
tacit kite
X TWEET
umbral karma
Nah because shit is getting destroyed
tacit kite
umbral karma
And explosions are cool
tacit kite
GOOD LORD
umbral karma
https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1649141462469312512?s=46&t=4Yb7WYRzDDTdZohzTU3...
wow
next sierra
Omfg
umbral karma
I still can't believe it actually flew
indigo frigate
same man
people that arent astonished have never built anything in their lives. Took me like 4 attempts just to make a phone holder for my car while 3D printing
next sierra
I still can't believe it actually flew
Me either, I'm in disbelief still
indigo frigate
OOOOOOOOOO BLACK AND WHITE IS WHERE ITS AT
umbral karma
chem trails
rich blade
https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1649141462469312512?s=46&t=4Yb7WYRzDDTdZohzTU3...
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO liftoff shot
modest heron
chem trails
Real
brittle spire
Now watch SpaceX reinforce the stand
And then just cover the hole with a bunch of concrete
modest heron
umbral karma
Its interesting, a long time ago. Like a few thousand years ago we developed something stronger than concrete
Its called metal
And its surprisingly good at not turning into shrapnel
Maybe put some of that under the pad
Just an idea
indigo frigate
yeah the amount of scrap panels they got laying around would do just fine
get the water tower folks in one last time
indigo frigate
did the tanks nearby get busted
keen plover
well here goes another 2 years to rebuild everything /s
indigo frigate
THEY SHOULD JUST GIVE UP, ALL THAT MONEY COULDVE WENT TO SAVE THE TURTLES. NOW ITS ALL BLOWN UP. ELON IS A SCAMMER
/s
people seem to think when you buy a rocket the money just vanishes into thin air
pulsar pollen
Hold on hold on
brittle spire
I think in the end how good/bad this launch was depends on how long the repairs to the launch site take
pulsar pollen
^^
brittle spire
If they can have the next launch prepped in let's say a month, this is just a huge victory
pulsar pollen
If they can have the next launch prepped in let's say a month, this is just a hu...
Elon guesstimated the next launch to be in a few months
indigo frigate
thats great
remote onyx
Also what they learn from it
white oyster
i mean, the next starship and booster ARE technically ready?
brittle spire
Like you have to realize that I think B7 is very outdated
pulsar pollen
i mean, the next starship and booster ARE technically ready?
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