Starship Orbital Test Flight

[compact tinsel]

So say we all!

[white oyster]

suprised you didnt edit the text

[whole hawk]

I believe that on Thursday everything will go well and it will liftoff.

[timber relic]

Well, now that you said that it'll scrub again

[whole hawk]

Nooo pls

Well

If the next opportunity is on Monday, then yes.

[compact tinsel]

Or Saturday. I like to watch EJ-SA on Twitch for live launches but Twitch is blocked at my work.

[rich blade]

maybe if I don't watch it, it will liftoff

[compact tinsel]

Lol, that was my aunt's philosphy when it came to basketball games.

[rich blade]

did it work?

[compact tinsel]

Sometimes!!!!

You know, in a not mathematically significant way!

[hollow knot]

They can't on the weekends because they have an agreement with Cameron County so they can't close the road in weekends

[compact tinsel]

Doh

[placid nova]

Lmao

[rich blade]

what is this blue pipe

[whole hawk]

what sustains the worker

[compact tinsel]

So hamburger meat, pipe?

[whole hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-crane-gif-21057451

[raven scroll]

starship launching 4/20/22!!!!

[oak sable]

It's a boom of a boom lifter

[rich blade]

💀

im blind

[oak sable]

💀

[modest heron]

The boom boom lifter

[oak sable]

[whole hawk]

https://youtu.be/Ywggi3-u4SA

nice job

[rich blade]

yeah that animation is godly

[undone gull]

TFR gon

[whole hawk]

Monday Launch!!!

[undone gull]

friday still exists

[whole hawk]

I am going to eliminate that one

[undone gull]

no

[rich blade]

oh

so no thursday?

[whole hawk]

no 4/20

[rich blade]

at least twitter wont be worse than it already is

[whole hawk]

Possible ignition sequence of the 20 engines

https://twitter.com/infographictony/status/1648362794721628161

Tony Bela - Infographic news (@InfographicTony)

A work-in-progress, obviously nothing official, just for fun.

Likes

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Twitter · Apr 18, 2023, 4:28 PM

[west umbra]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1648435471633231875

Eric Berger (@SciGuySpace)

April 20 is definitely out for the Starship flight test, per two sources. No confirmation on whether it slips just a day or further. For more details I will reefer you to SpaceX’s social channels.

Twitter · Apr 18, 2023, 9:16 PM

[rich blade]

berger as always saying stuff that later will be confirmed

biggest spoiler on the internet smh

[whole hawk]

https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_3_3386.html

https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_3_3391.html

23 and 25 April

[rich blade]

so flight next week

wait nvm

friday

[hollow knot]

Launch on Sunday possible?

[rich blade]

possibly

if they choose to

ik its weekend

but they have limited hours in a year of weekend closure so when else to use it, plus if weather is good

and also more people will be able to watch it since its sunday

[whole hawk]

https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_3_3387.html

24 April

[west umbra]

Yeah viewership numbers on a Sunday launch would be insane

[rich blade]

mmm

plus if weather is good

and spacex is ready

then im sure road closures could appear

(secretly hoping they try sunday, i will actually be able to watch it then)

[hollow knot]

Same

[rich blade]

23rd and 25th would be ideal for me

26th as well if needed

[past robin]

Why no 4/20

[viscid granite]

Yooo

[viscid granite]

I don’t have school on the 21st

Or 24th

also since when did ksp player become dominant over the x-x roles

[past robin]

Yes

Wait that's such a shit addition

The ping and ksp player roles should be below level roles

[hollow knot]

What time zone?

[past robin]

Roles sucking

[loud spire]

Weekend would be so nice

Could actually watch it guaranteed

[rich blade]

daym

[past robin]

Plus they'd have an enormous turnout

[rich blade]

r these all the TFRs?

[loud spire]

Uness the power goes out for the first time in 3 years at t-10 like demo 2

[hollow knot]

What time zone is "Z"

[tacit kite]

utc

[rich blade]

UTC

[whole hawk]

UTC

[hollow knot]

Oh ok

[viscid granite]

what does z mean anyway

zulu?

[rich blade]

maybe

[viscid granite]

is that a reference to FLTA001

[loud spire]

they moved it back its not on staar test day anymore

[rich blade]

god pls spacex go for sunday instead of friday lol

[loud spire]

Yes

Well

Yes

[whole moat]

thank god

[rich blade]

ik its weekend but people its april they can go to the beach later during the summer

[loud spire]

Starship launch > beach visit

I dont like going to the beach

[rich blade]

idk what the weather looks like on friday or sunday

[loud spire]

Sand gets everywhere

[rich blade]

its course and rough

[loud spire]

Have to drive home covered in sand or shower in the comunal showers that have no curtains

[whole moat]

If that’s the logic they probably shoulda included that in the environmental review then

[rich blade]

i swear there was mention that spacex has limited closure time on weekends

[whole moat]

…you know you can just, like, not take off your shorts if that’s what’s bothering you, right?

[rich blade]

because of the whole thing of leaving HW4 open for people to go to the beach

mightve been in the PEA

cant remember tho

[whole moat]

I think it was

[mint scroll]

lets go now I'll be able to watch starship live

(assuming it's not delayed longer)

[rich blade]

if its friday i still cant, but if it delays after that, then i should be able to, unless it really gets delayed

fair bit of work around the booster

good stuff

actually ill be able to watch it if it goes between 7:00 and 7:30am CDT

me figuring out precisely at what time i can watch starship flight test

https://tenor.com/view/explain-gif-22546884

[hollow knot]

If it's on Sunday I can't watch between 7am and 9am

If it's on a weekday I can watch from 7am to 8:15am

But theoretically I could hide out in the bathroom

[tacit kite]

the weather is shit sunday

[rich blade]

yeah

bruh yesterday was like god tier weather damn you valve

[tacit kite]

the 4/20 tfr is back

???????????

https://tfr.faa.gov/tfr2/list.jsp

same window

[hollow knot]

Bro wat?

[west umbra]

well that’s awkward

[tacit kite]

IT ISN’T JOEVER YET

[rich blade]

wat

LETS

GOOO

[tacit kite]

FUCK YES

[true aspen]

Sick

[rich blade]

still means that I probably can't watch it but whatever!!

oooooooo that window is good

praying it goes at the start of the window

[true aspen]

WE ARE GOING

[timber relic]

[rich blade]

would you look at that, Berger once again trolled the internet, in partnership with the FAA

[tacit kite]

this has been an emotional rollercoaster

[rich blade]

good way to summarise the starship program tbf

[viscid granite]

Someone misclicked

[viscid granite]

It’s 7 for me now so that’s better than (the original launch time) before ig

[true aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/moistcritikal-penguinz0-charlie-misinput-it-was-a-misinput-gif-23090919

[tacit kite]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-guys-misclick-plane-bomb-gif-26991130

[viscid granite]

wait I think

[rich blade]

maybe they brought down the TFR to amend the launch time

cuz previously Thursday was only 62 mins, now it's ages

[viscid granite]

Nvm it’s 6

rahh

[tacit kite]

it’s 97 minutes now

if i mathed right

more than likely did not math right

[viscid granite]

what

it’s 2:30 now right?

[rich blade]

more than that

[viscid granite]

yeah

[rich blade]

same as yesterdays window, 150 mins

[viscid granite]

starts at 6 ends at 8:30

my local time

[rich blade]

ah

was gonna say

7-9:30 cdt

[viscid granite]

yeah

[tacit kite]

my screen shows it as 13:28-15:05

[viscid granite]

where

where is it showing you that

[viscid granite]

oh

[tacit kite]

probably caching bullshittery

the faa website is probably dying rn

[viscid granite]

is that the tfr or notam thing whatever

[tacit kite]

yes

[viscid granite]

nvm

ok

[true aspen]

Spacepals what does tfr mean

[tacit kite]

temporary flight restriction

[true aspen]

Thank you

[viscid granite]

the fucking rocket

[rich blade]

alright I'm off now goodbye

[fluid bobcat]

https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1648451638334734339?t=btpKOCjT7B1IPNph6E1PeQ&s=19 removed and put back?

Michael Baylor (@nextspaceflight)

A TFR for a Starship launch attempt on April 20 has been restored.

Wait for an official update from SpaceX at this point.

https://t.co/p6Cd2eJn0c

Likes

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Twitter · Apr 18, 2023, 10:21 PM

[viscid granite]

Yes

If they don’t tweet an update should we assume still 20th

[true aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/invisible-ink-pig-head-memoji-gif-25029183

[undone gull]

yes

everything is back in place for the 20th

just needed to extend the tfr by 30 minutes

weather is even improving

[next sierra]

[hollow knot]

[tacit kite]

actual divine intervention

[vagrant moat]

You stole my joke

[tacit kite]

L

post it first then

[undone gull]

i hate to agree with elon but it really seems fate is pointing towards the 20th lmao, i believe it even has the lowest upper level winds all week

[tacit kite]

the most entertaining outcome is the most likely

[modest heron]

Wtf is happening with the TFR

[remote onyx]

420 can't be stopped

[vagrant moat]

I did

@tacit kite

[tacit kite]

ah

different days it doesn’t count

[vagrant moat]

Moment

[tacit kite]

mental gymnastics go weeee

[hollow plaza]

What's gunny is berger was also saying he was hearing that SpaceX was no longer targeting the 20th

So who knows

[keen plover]

could also be a

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/395473001975513102/1096945341036777542/GET_BERGERED.mp4

moment

[vagrant moat]

Why. Does everyone here. Just instantly believe him on things?

[proven field]

Sorry @rich blade I don’t think the window was extended when the 20th was restored.

[next sierra]

Because different people at SpaceX are hearing different things

There's a lot of shit flying back and forth

Oops, wrong reply, right person

Oh well

[tacit kite]

close enough

[next sierra]

lol customcat I like the bio

I shall now engross myself in nostalgia and listen to that

[remote onyx]

I just realy hope Elon isn't rushing for the memes

[next sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/spacex-starship-spacex-starship-tesla-truck-elon-musk-gif-24790385

Except it's like 13 months

[remote onyx]

And the lauch infrastructure

[vagrant moat]

We don't care what they say, we will be here all day, it's not over till it's over...

Through the night and the rain, through the time and the pain, we'll never fall...

And then at the end of it all, we will win we will chant...

IT'S NOT OVER TILL IT'S OVER

[next sierra]

I Remember better

Flight is awesome but it's been ruined by children

[vagrant moat]

How

[vagrant moat]

Who the fuck cares

[pallid solar]

see people can't listen to songs if they're popular because it makes them feel less special

for instance see back when i was 12, I thought gangdam style was overhyped. Nowadays I'm just like whoop whoop

[vagrant moat]

Ah right

Heeeeey minecraft creeper

Op op op oppa minecraft style

[remote onyx]

Istg I'll dislike something until the hype is gone

[hollow plaza]

Fucking core memory holy shit

[next sierra]

Oh god what have I done

Sending the entire server back a decade

[thick sphinx]

Tell me why

[pallid solar]

I NEVER WANNA HEAR YOU SAY

[vagrant moat]

I'm waking up to ash and dust

[vagrant moat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Oq7x-EVC9E

[next sierra]

I'm crying

LMFAOOOOO

I'm literally crying

This is bad

But good

But bad

[vagrant moat]

Yeah

[tacit kite]

https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1648499113112276994?s=46&t=CgxdMkAUzbabaQ4DZT-fyg

Michael Baylor (@nextspaceflight)

SpaceX confirms they are going for a 4/20 attempt.

Twitter · Apr 19, 2023, 1:29 AM

going to fucking be in chem again

[limpid robin]

[hollow knot]

bro

[tacit kite]

it’s so joever man

[hollow knot]

if it was 20 mintues earlier i won't have to skip class

[proven flame]

Becuase he tells people what they want to hear. (Also gets attention off of controversial opinions and shitty journalism.)

[tacit kite]

NO WAIT

I’LL BE IN HISTORY

[hollow knot]

It honestly is a good way to get attention

[tacit kite]

WE ARE JOE FUCKING BACK

my history teacher does not care what I do in the slightest

[proven flame]

If they go on Friday I'll miss class for it. I'll be watching from my car in the campus parking lot so I can go in and actually attend in case they scrub.

[pulsar pollen]

I'm off from school on Thursdays

[hollow knot]

fuck you

[proven flame]

I'm off Thursday as well.

[hollow knot]

fuck you

[pulsar pollen]

skill issue

[hollow knot]

fuck you

ok i need to stop before i ger banned lol

[pulsar pollen]

[hollow plaza]

Should be wide SLS reaction lmao

[proven flame]

like miranda reaction

[zealous crystal]

omg

we need a live miranda reaction with the cat thing

@next sierra

[next sierra]

YESSSS

[zealous crystal]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WE ARE GOING

[next sierra]

[vagrant moat]

I hate the guy, I really do

But in this particular instance

We do just a little trolling

Only a spoonful

[pulsar pollen]

I miss 2016 Elon

Back when I didn't know about his political beliefs and he also wouldn't bother talking about them

[thick sphinx]

Yea I used to like elon a lot, those were simpler times

I'm still a very large SpaceX enjoyer tho

Everyone I know who's worked there loves the culture and I love the way Shotwell runs things

[pulsar pollen]

Dont get me wrong, I love SpaceX and I always have

It's just Elon was always the face of it and since he's embraced his villain arc last year it's difficult to separate him from SpaceX

[zealous crystal]

I kinda hope the launch is delayed to Friday

[vagrant moat]

He'd embraced it before that TBH

The "||pedo guy||" incident comes to mind

[pulsar pollen]

Noooooooooo
but-
but-

the MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEME

[fleet lichen]

Do we know what time is being targeted for 4/20 test flight window?

[hollow knot]

launch window is 8:28 to 10:05am

[proven field]

"The 62 minute launch window opens at 8:28 a.m. CT and closes at 9:30 a.m. CT."

[hollow knot]

oh

[past robin]

I caused this

[proven field]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1648550090330480640?s=46&t=9j2-lzDcIbRK6McrWkEb9g

Elon Musk (@elonmusk)

@RGVaerialphotos The team is working around the clock on many issues. Maybe 4/20, maybe not.

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131

Twitter · Apr 19, 2023, 4:52 AM

[rich blade]

ahhhhhhhh

cringe but I'll find a way to watch it

[rich blade]

bit worried about the "many issues"

but hopefully they try on the 20th

[proven field]

They've booked the whole week now (previously April 22 was out)

[rich blade]

oh nice

so Saturday also an option

[shell python]

so i guess it was more than the valve?

[timber relic]

Issues always have a root cause

They've been working on removing that root cause

[proven field]

potentially 1 day from history, again

[low totem]

So happy they didn’t launch Tuesday because I was flying. Problem is, I’m also flying Thursday morning

[next sierra]

Same

[umbral karma]

So building a new rocket?

[modest heron]

No

[umbral karma]

Firing Elon?

[modest heron]

Switching to making donuts

[umbral karma]

Donut ship

[modest heron]

With a hole in the middle

[umbral karma]

Is it for the thrust

[whole hawk]

NEXT SPACEFLIGHT

[sharp flower]

Is starship

[pulsar pollen]

I'm confused on the launch date now

Scott Manley says next week

Eric Berger says a bunch of different stuff

Elon says 4/20, probably

[keen plover]

SpaceX seems to be targeting 4/20 with a high change of scrub

[pulsar pollen]

got it

[keen plover]

Berger is just pulling a berger

[timber relic]

There's been some issues they've been working through

[tacit kite]

COWABUNGA IT IS - spacex, probably

[pulsar pollen]

i've heard about that

Elon mentioned it

[timber relic]

A delay was certain but they found a path to solving the issues in time

So they're going for the 20th

[pulsar pollen]

got it

[timber relic]

They always find a way, I don't know how

[pulsar pollen]

hopefully it launches then, cuz the meme would be glorious

[pulsar pollen]

SpaceX engineers are terrifyingly good at their job

[whole hawk]

https://twitter.com/capellaspace/status/1648708632140451841

Capella Space (@capellaspace)

The latest addition to our satellite constellation continues to deliver. We captured this nighttime shot of @SpaceX Starship taking a rest after the wet dress-rehearsal Monday. We're looking forward to the launch! #SpaceX, #StarshipLaunch, #SAR, #radar

Twitter · Apr 19, 2023, 3:22 PM

[tacit kite]

it’s the power of 4/20, duh

[next sierra]

Or they're just bodging it and then loosening the LCC

[pulsar pollen]

Making the average aero engineer look like a monkey with a calculator and AutoCAD proficiency

[pulsar pollen]

that too

but i prefer my belief to yours

[tacit kite]

does the ballmer peak apply to engineering

[next sierra]

I assume we're thinking of different ballmers

[pulsar pollen]

probably

[next sierra]

Not DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS

[pulsar pollen]

ballmer's peak applies to professional chess players, according to that one movie

I think it could apply to engineers given the correct circumstances

[next sierra]

Ah yes that ballmer apparently, image finally loaded

[pulsar pollen]

sounds like the perfect thesis for some dude's psychology PhD

[tacit kite]

spychology is what the CIA does

or something

[next sierra]

Nowadays they just let private companies do the spying for them

[whole hawk]

https://twitter.com/flash43226399/status/1648712026129047553

Flash (@Flash43226399)

This brute forcing our neighborhood to evacuate again.

Twitter · Apr 19, 2023, 3:35 PM

4/20 is real

[rich blade]

naice

[proven field]

During the Starlink launch today commentator says they do aim for tomorrow for Starship, with caveats.

https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1648695195888766982?s=61&t=MY809gRyiRKJkNWJgFMYKw

Chris Bergin - NSF (@NASASpaceflight)

SpaceX notes they are still going with Thursday for Starship (but lots of caveats about potential changes and also how the chances of scrubs are high).

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Twitter · Apr 19, 2023, 2:29 PM

[shell python]

motion blur from radar?

[remote onyx]

It's probably overprossed

[whole hawk]

Valves are difficult

[whole hawk]

link camera?

[tacit kite]

hoopcam

I think

I didn’t take the screenshot

https://www.youtube.com/live/JMB4JBCqqec?feature=share

[whole hawk]

thanks

[rich blade]

that's a lotta people

[tacit kite]

manlift just stared pissing hydraulic fluid everywhere

[next sierra]

oopsie

[keen plover]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-guys-misclick-plane-bomb-gif-26991130

[whole hawk]

SpaceX: We withdrew due to ground support problems.

[keen plover]

"4/20 Scrubbed due to GSE leaks /s"

[pulsar pollen]

(whispers softly) don't.

[rich blade]

if a raptor abort happens tomorrow, assuming they will attempt again 72hrs later, I will be able to watch it

secretly hopes for raptor abort

[whole hawk]

The red team arrived on site

[next sierra]

SpaceX may as well buy United Rentals at this point

They've rented and destroyed so much of their shit it's incredible that they want anything to do with SpaceX

[vagrant moat]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-gif-22037253

[tacit kite]

spy sappin’ mah helium valve!

[whole hawk]

Red Team making repairs

https://twitter.com/grandpajoe42/status/1648772686967984133

GrandpaJoe (@Grandpajoe42)

SpaceX is committed. They are setting up the viewing stands at spi

Twitter · Apr 19, 2023, 7:36 PM

SpaceX Visualization Guide

For a modest price of $49.99 enjoy an excellent shaded view of the Starship launch.

[shell python]

i’d that real?

[whole hawk]

This, YES

[whole hawk]

This, no

[keen plover]

*560 dogecoin /s

[whole hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-and-take-my-money-futurama-fry-take-my-money-money-gif-15195954

Winds and cloudiness are down for tomorrow

The percentage of cloudiness is between 17 and 30% now.
And winds are not above 120km/h

[shell python]

it’s too cheap lol

[whole hawk]

for what SpaceX charges, yes

[brittle spire]

Wait we are going

Wtf

[rich blade]

seems like we are

[whole hawk]

the scaffolding is being dismantled

[rich blade]

good sign

[tacit kite]

plat going down

[whole hawk]

and

[rich blade]

the army of tankers

btw what's the weather like tomorrow?

[undone gull]

Decent

Upper level winds are calmer

[rich blade]

what about cloud cover

[undone gull]

Idk

And I don’t think that will matter imo

[zealous crystal]

wtf we are going

[whole hawk]

improved a little and the winds are now not able to limit

[rich blade]

i mean yeah but I don't want it to launch then disappear into the clouds

[zealous crystal]

Can they delay the launch by 10 minutes

plz

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1056627852637909103/1060672062185807882/gulp.gif

[whole hawk]

also down a little

[rich blade]

can they delay until the weekend lol

on the one hand I want it to launch tomorrow, but on the other hand I'll miss it which sucks astronomically

[undone gull]

Weather sucks this weekends

[rich blade]

maybe if the teacher lets us listen to music I'll watch it

[undone gull]

Except Saturday maybe

[whole hawk]

Tomorrow

https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1648797064183128065

Michael Baylor (@nextspaceflight)

Starship launch remains on for 4/20.

Twitter · Apr 19, 2023, 9:13 PM

[zealous crystal]

I'm going to watch the launch during a Maths lecture

[rich blade]

stop

[zealous crystal]

🫠

[whole hawk]

The tanker truck is blocking the view of the workers.

[rich blade]

I'm watching it in a maths lesson but my school has gotten stricter on phones so idk how I'll do that

[shell python]

rehearsal for me

when does the window open

[undone gull]

8:28 CDT I believe

[whole hawk]

Window Open: Thu Apr 20, 2023 13:28 UTC
Window Close: Thu Apr 20, 2023 14:30 UTC

[rich blade]

god bless NSF for going live so early

the long streams are really chill

[whole hawk]

maintenance platform now on the ground, everything is finished.

[rich blade]

are these the last few tankers?

or are there more?

[whole hawk]

maybe

[rich blade]

i am going to be so so surprised positively if all 33 engines ignite successfully and it actually goes

very clean OLM, all stuff removed

[whole hawk]

Yeah!

https://youtu.be/mNU65QwT-y8

[rich blade]

no

[whole hawk]

[rich blade]

Sawyer on NSF saying that fog may be a primary concern

swear to god

it took SN11 and kinda USSF-44 if fog takes this launch as well imma be mad

[whole hawk]

https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1648800397279240192

SpaceX (@SpaceX)

Teams continue working towards Thursday, April 20 for the first flight test of a fully integrated Starship and Super Heavy rocket → https://t.co/30pJlZmrTQ

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Twitter · Apr 19, 2023, 9:27 PM

[tacit kite]

WE ARE JOE FUCKINGN BACK

[rich blade]

T - 16:00:00

[umbral karma]

Until the next scrub

[zealous crystal]

We are

LAUNCHING

[umbral karma]

In a few weeks

[rich blade]

Artemis II before SFT

[umbral karma]

inb4 starship was not able

[tacit kite]

can’t wait for the JoeFT

[rich blade]

when JoeHeavy

[next sierra]

Jorbital Flight Test

[tacit kite]

jeans orbital

[zealous crystal]

Joe Biden Super Mega Heavy Lift Rocket

JBSMHLR

JBSMHLR Block 2

[rich blade]

some tankers leaving

including the shuttle tanker

shuttle tanker is so cool

[tacit kite]

plat just left

[proven flame]

The hopeful/selfish side of me says they'll fly tomorrow (I don't want to possibly skip class on Friday or Saturday to see this)

The realistic side of me says there will be another scrub

[rich blade]

yep dancefloor leaving

[pulsar pollen]

It'll probably scrub again, but dear God I hope it goes tomorrow

I want the funni meme day to be cemented into the history books and recalled by future spaceflight nerds for decades to come

[whole hawk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/715551468509462619/1098361907699777546/IMG_2833.png

[rich blade]

the 4/20 is so stupid but it will be kinda funny if it actually launches on that day

interested to see when spacex will progress with in situ propellent production

if they wanna launch like 3 times a day

probably way down the line

something soothing about watching all the cars leave the launch site

[whole hawk]

lol

[loud spire]

right before that i saw them looking at the camera and tlaking on the radio and looking at a phone

thought they where complaining or something

[vagrant moat]

So we're still go for tomorrow?

[whole hawk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/577909263012462596/1098378493655523479/imageedit_29_8319386911.gif

wtf

ahahahah

[whole hawk]

Yeah

[vagrant moat]

Swag

[vagrant moat]

Do we have any idea when the next Starship launch after OFT will be?

[pulsar pollen]

If the OFT goes well?

[vagrant moat]

I mean, if it doesn't destroy the OLM yeah

[pulsar pollen]

Anyone's guess

Depends on how confident the engineers are

[vagrant moat]

Gotcha

[west umbra]

Wow

[proven field]

Who’s that

[west umbra]

Famous music producer

Made "Faded" if you've heard of it

Looks like he's got 43 million subscribers on youtube

[vagrant moat]

Oh I love Sing me to Sleep

[next sierra]

Holy fuck

WHY DOES NXF KEEP PLUNGING ME BACK 5+ YEARS

[undone gull]

On what stream

[whole hawk]

lol

[west umbra]

The NSF Starship status update

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvLi_5XACWY

[vagrant moat]

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-orange-apple-gif-7369884

[west umbra]

And now the stream is ending

[modest heron]

More like ~10 years

Fade was released in 2014

[tacit kite]

where did the fucking time go

[vagrant moat]

Up your ass

[modest heron]

[tacit kite]

don’t threaten me with a good time

[vagrant moat]

The first Spy Kids movie released closer to the end of the Iran Hostage Crisis than the modern day

[tacit kite]

what the fuck

I would like to unsubscribe from the existential crisis newsletter

[vagrant moat]

@zealous crystal

[zealous crystal]

What the hell is the Iran hostage crisis

[vagrant moat]

WHAT

[vagrant moat]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis

[tacit kite]

carter fucked up big time

[zealous crystal]

a group of militarized Iranian college students belonging to the Muslim Student Followers of the Imam's Line, who supported the Iranian Revolution, took over the U.S. Embassy in Tehran
This really sounds like a bunch of Cold War terms mixed together to form a coherent sentence

[tacit kite]

nah that’s just the cold war in a nutshell

modamerica class is 80% “the CIA pulled some bullshit”

[vagrant moat]

Every single event leading up to the 1980 presidential election is conclusive proof that God exists and he hates us

And everything after the 1980 presidential election is proof that we deserve it

[tacit kite]

[pulsar pollen]

1980 election

Carter: “Let’s talk better mileage.”

Reagan: “Shoot the bastards.”

[tacit kite]

the other 20% is me watching starbase live

i’m in the front center my teacher does not care in the slightest

thank fuck the starship window is during modamerica

[pulsar pollen]

Dafuq is “modamerica”

Modern American history?

[tacit kite]

US history past ww2

[pulsar pollen]

Ah

Why the hell would anyone have that as a separate class

[tacit kite]

it’s honors why the hell not

[zealous crystal]

I learned about Reagan's economic policy in history class last year

(yeah we talk about him in France)

and uhhh

[pulsar pollen]

Just do American history before and after the civil war

[vagrant moat]

Because nobody fucking talks about it anywhere else

[zealous crystal]

yeah

[pulsar pollen]

No one talks about the sixties!?

[tacit kite]

news coverage has gotten so dense nowadays

we go by administration

1 unit per president

[pulsar pollen]

Okay that’s smart

[vagrant moat]

Everything after WW2 is considered too modern to be in pre-college history class and everything before 9/11 is too early to be recent

[pulsar pollen]

I retract my statement

[zealous crystal]

Interesting

[tacit kite]

*roughly 1 unit per

ford doesn’t count lmao

[pulsar pollen]

To be fair he’s a good case study

On what to do/not do economically

[tacit kite]

ford was like 2 whole days

[vagrant moat]

This also very conveniently allows primary schools to just go "uhhhhhh and then civil rights happened :)" without elaborating at all

[pulsar pollen]

In their defense I don’t think a 5th grader would give a shit about Gerald Ford

[tacit kite]

the course ends with the 2016 election that’s going to be chaos

[pulsar pollen]

Yikes.

[vagrant moat]

Gerald Ford is a fucking meme lmao

[tacit kite]

you bet

[zealous crystal]

In France a few years ago, I think history classes would have been "And between 1941 and 1945, every French people resisted against the Germans ! :D"

[pulsar pollen]

Out of curiosity, what state is this?

[vagrant moat]

Yeah sounds about right

[tacit kite]

MD private school

[pulsar pollen]

Buy a riot shield.

Actually it depends

[tacit kite]

in baltimore

yeah

[vagrant moat]

Alright it's time for me to piss in everyone's cheerios

[pulsar pollen]

Ohhhh nvm you’re fine

[vagrant moat]

#off-topic

[tacit kite]

fine

[shell python]

back corner with the outlets my beloved

both years in history i’ve parked in the back right

[shell python]

wait you have a Modern American class in HS???

[tacit kite]

yeah go to off topic

[shell python]

that what our regular history curriculum is, but for whatever reason we do US 1 in 8th grade and US 2 in 11th??

[pulsar pollen]

I’m very happy and not happy that I went to highschool outside the US

Not happy because my college life could’ve been far easier

But happy because I didn’t have to deal with dumb shit like this

[true aspen]

Starship people

Are they still attempting 4/20?

[vagrant moat]

Yes

[hollow knot]

Yes

[tacit kite]

Yes

[true aspen]

Awesomeness

[zealous crystal]

Yes

[shell python]

honestly i love texas hs traditions

[sharp flower]

But they spend so much on football…

[zealous crystal]

It's launch day

[shell python]

i’m gonna be honest

it’s part of what makes it special

a big stadium fully kitted out on friday nights in fall as i cheer on our team with my friends then watch my friends on the drill team and in band do their thing it’s something so so so special

like do we spend a lot? yeah

do i honestly really like it? yeah

texas hs football is the best

[hollow knot]

what are guys call between 1-10 that the launch will scrub tmr? 1 no, 10 being yes

[shell python]

6.657

[hollow knot]

i say 4.20

[true aspen]

about how much methane is in starships second stage

[keen plover]

about 1 starship 2nd stage methane tank's worth, give or take a few %

[true aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-bow-michael-scott-steve-carell-office-gif-12985913

[shell python]

https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1648766937948643366?s=20

Zack Golden (@CSI_Starbase)

SpaceX is still very busy replenishing liquid nitrogen and Oxygen supply at the orbital tank farm.

Current count of offloads since Monday’s scrub.

69 x LN2
30 x LOX
6 x CH4

All 3 helium tanks used for engine startup have been swapped out as well per agent @VickiCocks15

Likes

1061

Twitter · Apr 19, 2023, 7:14 PM

[true aspen]

jesus christ Air liquide is giving all away their entire supply lmao

[thick sphinx]

It sounds like SpX has reasonable confidence they fixed the issue

[whole moat]

Mixture ratio of 3.6, though idk how accurate that is to the tank contents it should be somewhere in the ballpark. 1200t of propellant, so 1200* (1/4.6) ≈ 260 tonnes

[hollow plaza]

6 x CH4 make much more sense than 60 lol

still curious what happened to that methane tho

[whole moat]

From what event?

The six tanks or the sixty that were lost

[vagrant moat]

Man

It really might be happening tomorrow huh

[whole moat]

yeah, probably not though. The reservations I have about the first launch attempt minus it being the first are all still true for this one

[vagrant moat]

I mean fair but shhhh

Let me dream

[hollow plaza]

I mean I'm curious why they need any more delivered at all

None can be vented

And they don't have a burner anymore

So where did it go?

[whole moat]

well, some if it very likely leaked out in the recapture process

[hollow plaza]

Ok but I'm pretty sure that's illegal

[whole moat]

Some of it might have, yes, been vented from the vehicle

[hollow plaza]

You can only release so much before you are required to burn it

[whole moat]

I’m not sure on the legality of that but it seems the most plausible explanation to me

[hollow plaza]

Still, losing 6 truckloads of liquid methane is not a small deal

Especially of it just went straight into the atmosphere

Do you know how many cows had to have their farts harvest for 6 trucks????

[whole moat]

I can guess where some of it went during the first WDR though

[hollow plaza]

Yeah

[whole moat]

It’s definitely not ideal to have that kind of leakage. But I imagine the reason they aren’t burning it off is that anything they can capture would be sent to the recondenser instead of to a flare stack

would be nice to have it reduced to, like, the one truck per scrub or something. I’m sure they have areas they could pay better attention to leaks.

[true aspen]

thanksss

[whole hawk]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1648902780038393856

Elon Musk (@elonmusk)

All systems currently green for launch

▶ Play video

Twitter · Apr 20, 2023, 4:13 AM

[hollow knot]

Green just like the weed grass

[sharp flower]

Why is that the first thing you think of?

[hollow knot]

4/20 doh

[sharp flower]

Well yeah but

[keen plover]

Well, I once again will be heading to sleep. I will see ya'll in about 8 hours. Hopefully no scrubs in my sleep lol

[pastel vault]

Afternoon everyone

T-8:24:00 and me weatching has began

lets light this candle

the PA just said something about "all personal clear the pad"

also looks like the roadblock is up

[pastel vault]

already a $500 superchat at nsf

[pulsar pollen]

Welp I'm off to sleep, hopefully my body is nice to me and wakes up at roughly T-30 mins

[rich blade]

today's the day hopefully

[pastel vault]

HELL YES

lets go

[rich blade]

launch in just over 7 hours

[timber relic]

Ugh I hate the visibility

[rich blade]

oh no

pls don't tell me

that there will be a giant fog at t-0

[pastel vault]

that would suck

[timber relic]

Right now it's already horrible

It's scheduled to worsen

[pastel vault]

fog fog go away and fuck off

[true aspen]

ok there is still 7 hours left 🙏

[pastel vault]

crap

[true aspen]

hope dies last

[umbral karma]

A little fog wont stop it right?

[pastel vault]

SN11....

[rich blade]

they should make fog a cause for a scrub

so that u can actually see the rocket when it lifts off

[umbral karma]

Ill take anything at this point

Even a mostly foggy launch

[pastel vault]

so loong as we get good onboard cameras

not that I'm confident we will

[rich blade]

well I want to see the rocket take off

[pastel vault]

the pad cameras should capture that in almost any amount of fog

[rich blade]

yeah I guess

[pastel vault]

🤤 that camera ontop of the tower

[pastel vault]

possibly all the cars leaving the pad now

lets see whether the roadbloack moves

[remote onyx]

Guess who forgot her headphones yipee

[brittle spire]

NSF is of course already live

[pastel vault]

☝️

[timber relic]

As we should

[remote onyx]

Revenue

[pastel vault]

🤑

[timber relic]

Yeah we like not having proper sleep because we're all in for the money

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-to-work-for-money-homer-simpson-the-simpsons-gif-11837451

[rich blade]

obviously...

[pastel vault]

money > sleep

[blissful raptor]

At work today so can’t watch coverage 😭 will do my best to watch the launch though. Never hoped for a scrub so much 😂😂

[blissful raptor]

I like having hours of coverage to watch but I think they’ve gone a little overkill with this one. Going live at T-3 or 4 hours would’ve been just fine. T-7 is overkill

[brittle spire]

there is nothing happening

[blissful raptor]

Exactly.

I love their live streams so much and if I wasn’t working I would definitely be watching lmao but bro 7 hours of nothing is a lot

[pastel vault]

doesn't stop me from watching

[whole moat]

gotta rake in those superchats from really desperate people

[blissful raptor]

Fr fr

[blissful raptor]

I cannot fathom donating 500 pounds lmao that’s more than I make in a month most months these days

The fact people can just give up that kinda money makes me upset.

[whole moat]

it's weird and feels gross but im not sure entirely why

[timber relic]

Pad is being cleared at this time and road was closed about 30min before we went live

[pastel vault]

Isn't pad already clear

[whole moat]

i mean the amount of money is silly, but maybe what's really icky is trying to start the stream 8 hours beforehand just to give the most time possible for people bad with their money to lose it? When there's nothing of significance happening?

[pastel vault]

I cant see any more cars

[rich blade]

bruh people complaining that there is coverage of space stuff

[timber relic]

As the person on the other side, I like the long coverage

[brittle spire]

it's just a half joke that's been floating around since the SN5 days about how long NSF coverage is

[timber relic]

We go through the whole thing and checking off stuff

[whole moat]

it's not that there's coverage of space stuff, it's that there's coverage of nothing posing as coverage of space stuff

[rich blade]

yeah I like them as well

[pastel vault]

its still a rocket

even if it's doing little

its still a rocket

[timber relic]

I even have my own timeline to be checking off as we go down the count

[brittle spire]

I like the longer NSF content
but tbh it only really starts getting interesting around tank farm/tanking

[whole moat]

NSF live coverage of the shuttle discovery exhibit for eight hours

[timber relic]

Don't threaten me with a good time

[pastel vault]

sound aweseome

as long as ther is good commentry

I would watch

[whole moat]

so you're the one who gives them five hundred bucks when they're talking about how their day went

[pastel vault]

no I have no money lol

but if I have nothing better to do I might as well watch

[blissful raptor]

Oh I like it too! As I said if I weren’t at work I’d be watching! But it’s just a long ass time

[umbral karma]

Im so ready for this launch

[blissful raptor]

I hope I can catch it. I swear if I get a customer come up at 2:28 imma be pissed

Ight anyway. I gotta walk round to work now. Catch ya later nerds

[umbral karma]

It will probably scrub anyway

[pastel vault]

loud ventinf from the tank farm

chopsticks are opening

sherrif still at the roadblock however

chopstick now look to be fully out and are lowering

T-5 hours!

[umbral karma]

Here we go again...

[timber relic]

All the way from the start

[pastel vault]

vent stack is going

I'm surprized the police car is still there

[timber relic]

Tank farm definitely now in chilldown

[pastel vault]

yep

[rich blade]

bit misty

[pastel vault]

Looks like the roadblock has moved

the exclusion zoje should now be clear

[umbral karma]

From satellite, it seems the cloud might clear a bit in 5 hours

[pastel vault]

oh for gods sake a vehicle is going to the pad

[next marsh]

Is that a bad sign?

[pastel vault]

well for the launch you definatly dont want anyone there

[modest heron]

Yes

[pastel vault]

as long as they leave the lauch site soon it shouldbe fine

[modest heron]

Musk forgor to sacrifice one of his employees

[pastel vault]

so if there is just something quick that they are doing it will be fine

car leaving

so it will be fine

[umbral karma]

nice

[rich blade]

what did I miss why is chat full of Fs

[pastel vault]

all fine

a car went to the pad

gone now

[rich blade]

that's ok

[pastel vault]

tank farm is starting up and looking good

[rich blade]

yep

[umbral karma]

Just ignore chat, its terrible

[timber relic]

Jerks spamming crap

[umbral karma]

Its like twitter but high frequency

[timber relic]

We had chinese spamming the other day for some reason

[pastel vault]

oh yeah

so much unmoderated spamming happened on starbase live

before anyone realised

T-4 hours

[rich blade]

yipee

[rich blade]

yeah I remember that

[past robin]

Scurb when

[modest heron]

Curb

[rich blade]

the tank farm looks very ominous in this lighting

[umbral karma]

Looks explody

[rich blade]

ooo wb-57 flight plan

[timber relic]

Should see OLM vent in ~30min

[oak sable]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-black-cat-vent-sus-i-saw-you-venting-gif-21307837

[umbral karma]

hello

[oak sable]

[modest heron]

@oak sable

https://tenor.com/view/anya-anya-forger-anya-spy-x-family-anime-sus-gif-25541203

[oak sable]

[next sierra]

Yep, that's the entire point and no one can convince me otherwise

[umbral karma]

Money is good

Everyone should give me money

[next sierra]

No me

[modest heron]

No me

[zealous crystal]

No you

[next sierra]

Yes no me

[past robin]

I'm going to miss it D:

[umbral karma]

I will watch it for you

[zealous crystal]

No yes no me no you

[next sierra]

Well shit
https://twitter.com/lavie154/status/1648996291584688128

Lavie Ohana 🏳️‍⚧️ (@lavie154)

It’s somewhere out there

Twitter · Apr 20, 2023, 10:25 AM

[whole hawk]

Good Morning ☀️

[tacit kite]

WE ARE JOEING

[past robin]

No

[tacit kite]

Yes

https://twitter.com/NerdyKowboy/status/1649008117831589893

Tony Casey (@NerdyKowboy)

Feels like a good day to image a launch with the mighty WB57.

Twitter · Apr 20, 2023, 11:12 AM

[oak sable]

It's uncanny how foggy it is

[tacit kite]

it’s not fog, it’s weed smoke

[whole hawk]

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/NASA926/history/20230420/1130Z/KEFD/KEFD

[modest heron]

Vandenberg Starship

[past robin]

SLS and starship do not hate each other, no they are kissing and having sex

[modest heron]

[pastel vault]

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1649012769906368514

SpaceX (@SpaceX)

The Starship team is go for prop load; team is keeping an eye on the weather → https://t.co/bJFjLCiTbK

Twitter · Apr 20, 2023, 11:30 AM

FUCK YES

[oak sable]

[remote onyx]

Please do funny

[pastel vault]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBKCePn1E5A

[whole hawk]

https://twitter.com/NerdyKowboy/status/1649013978301976577

Tony Casey (@NerdyKowboy)

https://t.co/TZpuPvmwLb

▶ Play video

Twitter · Apr 20, 2023, 11:35 AM

[true aspen]

Good morning peeps

Had a dream I was a south padre island

[rich blade]

visibility doesnt look good

[true aspen]

It was beautifullll, the sea was roaring, the sky was clear and on the horizon you could see this massive steel structure covered in white frost

[true aspen]

No 😭

[pastel vault]

hopefully it improves

[brittle spire]

Fog generally is good

Because fog = no wind

[pastel vault]

not for viewing

[brittle spire]

And it should hopefully clear up when the Sun properly breaks through

[pastel vault]

🤞

[brittle spire]

Generally we should get some good shots with this visibility

Especially with SpaceX cams

Also ye plane is properly underway

PROP LOAD HAS BEGONE

[pastel vault]

HELL YES

[brittle spire]

Or well the vent is gone

[rich blade]

nice

[loud spire]

We gonna have an sn11 it it does the thing today

[next sierra]

You have been warned

[brittle spire]

We're hitting t-90 so time to grab my laptop and get everything set up properly

[loud spire]

Hope the fog goes

[brittle spire]

It's not bad, we see the rocket

[pastel vault]

https://twitter.com/whoisheartbreak/status/1649018213936820224

Jessie Anderson (@whoisheartbreak)

Loading prop on Starship!!! 🚀

Twitter · Apr 20, 2023, 11:52 AM

[brittle spire]

It's not as good as Monday

[loud spire]

But when it goes up

[umbral karma]

It might look nice if it launches today

[brittle spire]

And we might not get proper views of booster soft landing

[loud spire]

That to

[umbral karma]

Drone shot of it emerging from the fog

[brittle spire]

Well see enough, and after that we hopefully have onboard cams

[loud spire]

If something goes wrong it would be nice to be able to see it to or like sn11

[timber relic]

Let's all remember https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1597376069879103488

Michael Baylor (@nextspaceflight)

Having nightmares about the Starship orbital launch happening in fog.

Likes

1101

Twitter · Nov 28, 2022, 11:45 PM

[brittle spire]

[pastel vault]

[uncut mist]

[pastel vault]

Frost per the NSF stream

[rich blade]

mykull psychic

[umbral karma]

t-90m

[timber relic]

I love it when the mission control audio stream has no audio

[umbral karma]

I also noticed that lol

[timber relic]

Literally an audio stream and it has no audio

Why even care... ugh

[pastel vault]

oh god

go away fog

[umbral karma]

https://tenor.com/view/where-is-it-frantic-distressed-agitated-shouting-gif-14052601

[brittle spire]

From Monday it had a very very few call outs

[umbral karma]

I think that was made worse by venting tbh

[pastel vault]

it at least had callouts that fueling has started

[timber relic]

Yeah but it had call outs

There's been zero

No "Booster fuel load underway" or something like that

We'll see for the ship

[pastel vault]

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1649020564869386240

SpaceX (@SpaceX)

Fueling of the Super Heavy booster is underway

Twitter · Apr 20, 2023, 12:01 PM

[blissful raptor]

Little bit foggy huh

[past robin]

A tiny bit

Please scrub for weather

[umbral karma]

When the sun rises it might make the fog go higher

NSF with the fancy timeline animation

[pastel vault]

SHIP FUEL LOAD STARTED

[rich blade]

so everything going smoothly?

[pastel vault]

right on time

[pastel vault]

yep

[rich blade]

good good

[pastel vault]

one of the recent tweets said "tracking weather"

[shell python]

should burn off

[pastel vault]

but all mechanical looks good

https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1649021875870375941

SpaceX (@SpaceX)

Fueling of Starship’s upper stage is now underway

Likes

601

Retweets

114

Twitter · Apr 20, 2023, 12:07 PM

[low totem]

I can watch starting at 9am CST… I’m hoping for a 30m delay, then launch

[flat pier]

Yeah I need this to delay 30m also lol

[low totem]

Plz SpaceX, wouldn’t it be so much better to launch at the end of window

[past robin]

I no see it

OWo

[flat pier]

I'm in the exact same boat, can't watch till 9am Central

[past robin]

I can't watch it if it goes ahead

Starship can wiggle 😳

[umbral karma]

Fog doesn't look so bad on this cam

[pastel vault]

yeah

[brittle spire]

well they're trending for roughly a launch right at the start

so it's that or a scrub + delay

[rich blade]

clearing up a bit no?

[vagrant moat]

So how we doing?

[pastel vault]

all techincal things looking good

[brittle spire]

yeah which is a good sign that the sun is clearing out the fog nicely

[past robin]

I hope a valve doesn't freeze again at T-40s

[pastel vault]

mmm

[umbral karma]

Probably will

[past robin]

Starship:

[timber relic]

And it's still broken after a week working on the thing that automates it

[past robin]

Epic nsf fail

[brittle spire]

Can we blame Mykul for this?

should go back and work on that launch app of yours

[pastel vault]

SHIP LOX LOAD

[past robin]

What app?

[brittle spire]

visibility looks way better

THERE IS A SUN

[timber relic]

Well the guy who developed it has Michael in his name

[viscid granite]

[past robin]

Oh that's the sun is it

[brittle spire]

t-30 to Spoocx stream

[rich blade]

very cool camera view

[past robin]

Wait

[viscid granite]

the server

what

[brittle spire]

btw that camera makes it look way worse
it looks like medium level clouds + the venting covering the rest

[past robin]

Spaceflight simulator

[rich blade]

alright I need to go now, I won't be here during the launch so hopefully it will fly today good luck people

[viscid granite]

yes

[vagrant moat]

F

[past robin]

It's ok I'll try to watch it for you

[viscid granite]

how are you ok with that

[hollow plaza]

Sup yall

[brittle spire]

actually we would get amazing views from the plane and or a drone, if we get camera shots off Superheavy coming out of the clouds

[hollow plaza]

What's T-0 expected to be

Still 8:28?

[brittle spire]

heyo Spibbles

[pastel vault]

no new time

[viscid granite]

4m into the window I hear

[brittle spire]

right at the very start

[past robin]

They're not

[viscid granite]

from user speculation based on stuff

[brittle spire]

there was no like delay of with fueling start

[viscid granite]

d

[hollow plaza]

d

[past robin]

I hope my parents let me stay up

D

[brittle spire]

SpaceX up to 144k waiting

[oak sable]

🇩

[rich blade]

that's the thing, I'm not

[past robin]

144p

[rich blade]

ty

[past robin]

I might not be able to since my parents are fucky wucky

[proven flame]

Morn

[past robin]

Sup

Sleep well?

Orion on starship

[modest heron]

I'm now your dad and you're allowed to watch

[past robin]

Yay!

Daddy~

[modest heron]

I-

No

[past robin]

:3

Yeah

No

[modest heron]

Not like this

[past robin]

This is probably gonna be the highest TWR starship launch due to the lack of anything inside the starship

[pastel vault]

Is it visable from SPI yet?

[past robin]

Oh yeah how the fuck do they launch without going over land

[shell python]

so uh

[past robin]

Hi

[shell python]

i had a sudden wave of fear hit me driving to school this morning

[past robin]

Are you ok?

[shell python]

oh yeah i’m fine but i’m worried about starship