Artemis I Mission

[valid dock]

On the ground

[rocky basin]

(not in space or integrated into the capsule)

[valid dock]

Well technically in space too

Since it's just derived from ISS tech

[long epoch]

If it's "just ISS derived tech" it should've been super easy to include in the capsule

[lone pelican]

just dock it to the iss 🙂

[valid dock]

It is, it'd just cost more for nothing

And NASA sadly need to cut costs

[safe cave]

the LAS has had flight tests girl

[long epoch]

read. the. whole. message.

[safe cave]

literally no point

[long epoch]

Isolated test flights in a controlled manner ≠ real life

[safe cave]

plus a lot of ECLSS stuff involves refreshing air

[rocky basin]

Apparently the reason is for dealing with a flat budget the ECLSS might have been too expensive to fly on A1.

[safe cave]

and it’s kinda hard for humans to suck in ox and blow out co2 without ppl

[rocky basin]

not that it’s a good reason or optimal for safety but it’s the reason

[rocky basin]

yeah but it’s not hard for machines to do that lol

[safe cave]

so you want them to blow an SLS?

[safe cave]

but there’s not much of a point

it’s not like this is NASA’s first ECLSS rodeo

[rocky basin]

Ideally yes but it’s unfortunately not practical to do so.

[rocky basin]

well, besides proving that part of the system works in its intended operating environment of course

[safe cave]

money. if it’s not gonna be used, why have it?

[safe cave]

every part that hasn’t been tested and can be tested is being tested

[rocky basin]

in isolation yes

[long epoch]

Wellllll, when you put it that way.... ||(I'm like 80% joking here)||

No. I want the systems in place to prove that IF it were to blow up, the people on top would live. What are the odds that a mistaken / unnecessary abort trigger happens? And even if it does happen, wouldn't you rather it happen on an inconsequential mission instead of, say, the first landing mission, fucking everything up (HLS can't loiter 2+ years for the next SLS)

[neat bobcat]

the Orion ECLSS system is being tested on ISS

[lone pelican]

money was such a big issue when it came to Artemis Program spending

hence why their budget was so high lmao

[safe cave]

they’re going to cut costs where they can

idk what to tell ya

[safe cave]

AA-2 literally proved the system

the abort system on top of SLS functions the same as it did on AA-2

there is literally no reason to waste a core

[neat bobcat]

https://video.ibm.com/channel/b4dEcL3bJKW
Live feed from panel cams

[river gazelle]

yooo, this is sick

I love the solar panel cams

[neat bobcat]

oooo its internal acm too

*cam

[river gazelle]

wow

people are going to be in there!

insane!

[long epoch]

I agree

However there is also no reason not to include a full live LAS

And don't give me "cost" or "accidental/unnecessary abort risk" BS

The cost is insignificant compared to everything else, an unnecessary abort would be far better on A1 than future missions

[river gazelle]

I dont see why they dont use a working LAS

makes sense to me

[long epoch]

There is no good reason

[river gazelle]

only downside is needing abort whether to be good

but ig they dont need to recover the capsule

[neat bobcat]

https://blogs.nasa.gov/artemis/2022/11/21/artemis-i-flight-day-six-orion-performs-lunar-flyby-closest-outbound-approach/

[lone pelican]

would probs be a bad idea to not

unless they just didn't deploy parachutes

even then would it even do much or would it just get crushed

[river gazelle]

yeah

I agree

recovery would be best

[lone pelican]

not like preparing for an abort would be a bad idea

[lone pelican]

"unnecessary abort risk" meaning an abort is possible

meaning that you either destroy capsule and booster or get to test out the LAS

[long epoch]

No, no, logic is not allowed!

Unacceptable

[final arch]

ARTEMIS I 24/7 LIVESTREAM
https://video.ibm.com/channel/b4dEcL3bJKW

[raw abyss]

weird how its not on YT

[somber plaza]

How many times do we need to pin it?

[final arch]

Lol

[neat bobcat]

not u unpinning me

I was first 😠

[ember pulsar]

Moon

[final arch]

I only left mine because it had a title, I mean, it explained that it was the link.

[final arch]

From Orion?

[ember pulsar]

Yep

[final arch]

Link?

Pls

[long epoch]

tineye rarely fails me

[final arch]

I thought it was weird, I didn't see that picture today or on NASA's web pages.

[glacial jewel]

https://images.nasa.gov/

[final arch]

Yes, I looked for it there, but it hasn't been uploaded yet.

The last ones that were uploaded this morning were the Falcon 9 CRS-26.

[glacial jewel]

I

[final arch]

what

F5

now

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art001e000274/art001e000274~orig.jpg

(Image with original link)

[glacial jewel]

Here is a better link https://images.nasa.gov/details-art001e000274

[final arch]

https://blogs.nasa.gov/lunah-map/2022/11/22/nasas-lunah-map-post-launch-update/

LunaH-Map in trouble

[flat jackal]

avg a1 cubesat

[final arch]

The mission is not yet lost, but it can no longer be done as planned, if the current problem is solved, the mission will be able to do a lot of science, important science to detect the water on the moon.

[wild mist]

Uh-oh, problems with Artemis?

[safe cave]

no

a lil cubesat

artemis is fine :)

[neat bobcat]

main mission is fine

just the cubesats are being a pain but that was to be expected

[ember pulsar]

High risk high reward

[wild mist]

Sats from Orion payload?

[neat bobcat]

correct

many have failed

[wild mist]

Sorry for typing so slowly - Keyboard enhancement software doesn't work in Discord so I have to hunt and peck, but if that means I get to hang with you guys every day, I don't mind

[neat bobcat]

wonderful

[rocky basin]

I think once you get accustomed to hanging out with us you might change your mind lol

[neat bobcat]

we aren't the most mature to say the least

[wild mist]

Nah - not a chance - Who else am I gonna talk about space stuff, cows, and bacon with?! 😆

[neat bobcat]

hahaha

[wild mist]

I posted some stuff about Cerebral Palsy in #off-topic for you guys to read later if you're interested.

[stoic totem]

Wait so NASA didn't fix the Ares-1x destroying the pad issue for Artemis 1?

[neat bobcat]

they aren't really comparable

and no the pad isn't destroyed

a few doors blown in and a sandblasted paint scheme

[stoic totem]

Ah just saw it was damaged and wa surprised after the Ares incident

[neat bobcat]

well comparing the two incidents was weird

one is because most powerful SRBs ever made and they didn't know what to actually expect

and the other is just why

[somber plaza]

There's a lot more damage than this tho

The point here is that the damage, though more than expected, is of no concern since it didn't affect the launch itself and they have well enough time to repair it for the next launch

[neat bobcat]

yeah

anyways, mission is almost a 3rd of the way complete

can't imagine what its like to be getting all that lovely data

[empty coyote]

Was Ares more damage

[final arch]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/hMHChG7GVVfL1eLBeYOO2bX06fTfwt1GZqVyAoBuJns/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/FiOA55OaAAI1aCw.png

[gritty scroll]

What region of the moon is this?

[hallow lance]

https://twitter.com/equuleus_en/status/1595343898980794373?s=46&t=C0xe2PoFiVrTwA-KLduu6w

EQUULEUS (@EQUULEUS_en)

@NASAArtemis @JAXA_en This was taken at 5:05 p.m. on Nov. 21 UTC during the lunar flyby (5550km).
We confirmed that it was taken in the area around 15°N, 120°E on the far side of the Moon.
The simulation shows that it was captured as we had intended and matches well with the past Moon images.

Twitter · Nov 23, 2022, 9:10 AM

[gritty scroll]

Thx

[final arch]

Last Update:
https://blogs.nasa.gov/artemis/2022/11/22/artemis-i-flight-day-seven-orion-to-test-search-acquire-and-track-mode-exit-lunar-sphere-of-influence/

[somber plaza]

Uhhh https://twitter.com/equuleus_en/status/1595395373824372736?s=61&t=MXfsSgzmBvMm-Duf0SwZgQ

EQUULEUS (@EQUULEUS_en)

CUM (Clean Up Maneuver) after the lunar flyby was performed as planned.
Based on the orbit determination results after DV1 and TCM so far, we expect that we have achieved fairly precise control. We will wait for the orbit determination results after the subsequent passes.

Twitter · Nov 23, 2022, 12:34 PM

[ember pulsar]

[cedar portal]

...

Someone has to fire the intern who manages the account

[ember pulsar]

CUM maneuver, did no one think that through when saying that

[rocky basin]

It’s just CUM, the M is for manuever

[gritty scroll]

There should be a list of twitter intern space fails

[safe cave]

https://twitter.com/physicsJ/status/1595436704928006144?s=20&t=3dYKC8LY3hMQ680ftKxt-w

Dr James O'Donoghue (@physicsJ)

@EQUULEUS_en DM me please 🙃

Twitter · Nov 23, 2022, 3:18 PM

[rocky basin]

nah they knew what was up, this gets a lot more publicity

[safe cave]

someone is shitting bricks

[gritty scroll]

https://youtu.be/-e0T3bClbSg

@rocky basin this

This is what twitter intern did

[rocky basin]

soothes the soul fr fr

[raw abyss]

there's no way

[rocky basin]

no cap

on god

[cedar portal]

wow, that must be hurtful

[gritty scroll]

https://twitter.com/JimFree/status/1595441181265203201?t=PGqv7AND8MfrX8wBQY-udA&s=19

Jim Free (@JimFree)

This is why we test. Overnight, we unexpectedly lost communication with @NASA_Orion while reconfiguring the link between the spacecraft and the Deep Space Network. We've since restored the link with an adjustment on the ground and are examining root cause. https://t.co/F4hzPfZ4Ra

Likes

534

Twitter · Nov 23, 2022, 3:36 PM

[mellow crest]

This is why we test.
♫ We do what we must, because we can. ♫

[final arch]

New Images

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art001e000334/art001e000334~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art001e000338/art001e000338~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art001e000342/art001e000342~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art001e000341/art001e000341~orig.jpg

[neat bobcat]

https://images.nasa.gov/details-ART-CAB1_2022_320_0650_SHARED_art001m1203200650

LAS jettison

[rocky basin]

complete with buzz

volume up, folks!

[vapid oar]

LET'S GOOOOO

I'm gonna perform CUM in this chat-forum

[neat bobcat]

https://images.nasa.gov/details-ART-CMA2_2022_320_0637_SHARED_art001m1203200637B

smooth launch footage

onboard

[flat jackal]

[urban basin]

unlegal

[cedar portal]

oh my

[valid dock]

[gritty scroll]

Is this correct?

[neat bobcat]

i have no idea about that

It does have autonomous flight control but I don’t know to that degree

[final arch]

Ready for Spam?

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0009/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0009~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0001/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0001~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0002/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0002~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0003/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0003~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0005/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0005~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0004/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0004~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0008/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0008~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0010/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0010~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0007/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0007~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0006/KSC-20221116-PH-NAS01_0006~orig.jpg

[rocky basin]

ty!

[gritty scroll]

When will the astronauts for future Artemis mission be announced?

[mellow crest]

So what happened to the ITAR bullshit then

[final arch]

Anddddd

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/KSC-20221115-PH-NAS01_0001/KSC-20221115-PH-NAS01_0001~orig.JPG

Following NASA’s successful Artemis I launch from Kennedy Space Center in Florida on Nov. 16, 2022, teams with the Exploration Ground Systems conducted a post-launch assessment for the ground systems, which began the day of launch and concluded Friday, Nov. 18. This enabled teams to inspect areas on the mobile launcher and identify specific damage and debris around the pad. Engineers have determined the overall mobile launcher and pad systems performed as designed during launch and are structurally sound.

[neat bobcat]

After Orion comes home

[ember pulsar]

Those pics make me worried for starship lmao

Starship is what, just under/ around 2x SLS power

[rocky basin]

well, thrust anyway

but it would be probably just as fine if they properly designed the GSE to handle it

IF

[mellow crest]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-boom-nuke-nuclear-bomb-gif-20734003

Sea turtles in 2023

[long epoch]

Approximately 1.89 SLS

33 R2.5 will be 2.06 SLS

[cedar portal]

What the fuck

Is Raptor 2.5 really a thing ?

[ember pulsar]

Yes

[long epoch]

Dev engines, yeah

[ember pulsar]

250 metric tons is the goal if I remember correctly

[cedar portal]

bruh

[long epoch]

Yeah

Per Alex they've been having trouble pushing the thrust/chamber pressure

B12 was supposed to get R2.5 but instead it's getting R2.1

[ember pulsar]

I assumed that would be an issue

[long epoch]

R2/R2.1 are already impressive as hell, to be expected tbh

R2 can already do 250mt... Just not for very long

[ember pulsar]

They’ll figure it out, they always do

[long epoch]

Yeah, for sure

[ember pulsar]

Some more SpaceX voodoo

[long epoch]

I want dry mass figures for R2.1 and 2.5, I wonder how it compares to 2.0's 1550kg

And the new shielding for B9+

[cedar portal]

Oh yeah I really love all of the vegetation around 39B

[final arch]

That needs an environmental impact review

[empty coyote]

SLS didn't

[somber plaza]

B12 will still get updated raptors but not sure what is being updated

I guess I'll find out once closer

[empty coyote]

The raptors

[somber plaza]

Duuuh

We'll see what happens, maybe they do a 2.2 or something

[long epoch]

I... What the hell is there to upgrade

Dry mass savings or reduced shielding maybe? I doubt they do much to the powerhead until 2.5?

[somber plaza]

Idk

Maybe they bring it up 240t as intermediate? Idfk

[long epoch]

240mt/320bar should be very achievable

2.5 is 330bar, yeah?

[final arch]

https://blogs.nasa.gov/artemis/wp-content/uploads/sites/303/2022/11/art001e000403-768x607.jpg

Artemis Update Today:
https://blogs.nasa.gov/artemis/2022/11/23/artemis-i-flight-day-eight-orion-exits-the-lunar-sphere-of-influence/

As of Wednesday, Nov. 23, a total of about 3,971 pounds of propellant has been used, about 147 pounds less than prelaunch expected values. There is more than 2,000 pounds of margin available over what is planned for use during the mission, an increase of about 74 pounds from prelaunch expected values.

Very Good

[rocky basin]

maybe increased shielding

[mellow crest]

Orion is one of the most heavily automated spacecraft out there. That said, I'm not on the flight-side of things, so I'm not sure to what extent.

[mellow crest]

Now I just need a shot of CS separation to finish the edit lol
https://fxtwitter.com/chancebelloise/status/1595572555896672256

[long epoch]

The only thing I see whenever I hear that song

[cedar portal]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

FINALLY A FREE BIRD EDIT

[bold drum]

amazing

[worn seal]

https://twitter.com/LMSpace/status/1595786237343940609?t=5HsRu_arGQEAMqBRr0vdbg&s=19

Lockheed Martin Space (@LMSpace)

Yeeeeeeet! 🚀

This video shows @NASA_Orion’s launch abort system (LAS), built by our engineers, being jettisoned following the successful launch of @NASA_SLS!

🤯

Likes

204

▶ Play video

Twitter · Nov 24, 2022, 2:27 PM

YO

THATS FUCKIN SICK

[twin yarrow]

Yeeeeeeeeet - Lockheed Martin 2022

[final arch]

https://twitter.com/equuleus_en/status/1595599226540806145?s=46&t=08yCSoMaf2-jAkGFy4I8AQ

EQUULEUS (@EQUULEUS_en)

Other images of the far side were successfully taken and were found to be at approx. 110-160°E. The images show craters of various sizes (1st and 2nd images) and the Mare Moscoviense (2nd image). 3 photos are superimposed on the lunar surface (3rd image).

Twitter · Nov 24, 2022, 2:04 AM

[urban basin]

I want one Artemis mission to go to the Far Side and another to go Tarus-Littrow

[mellow crest]

you can tell the rocket is accelerating because that launch escape system is barely moving away

[gritty scroll]

Has there ever been a "space Archeology" mission?

A mission designed to study or retrieve leftovers of a previous mission?

[neat bobcat]

Kinda?

[gritty scroll]

Ancient leftovers

[neat bobcat]

Apollo 12 can be considered that but the age difference between the two missions isn’t much

[gritty scroll]

That the engineers didn't intend to send a mission to study them

[gritty scroll]

I guess it's kinda right

What's the status of the Apollo landing sites?

I mean

They're outside of US Territory

Are they protected?

[neat bobcat]

Well obviously

[mellow crest]

can't wait to inspect those sites

[gritty scroll]

I hope so as imagine if in the future some stupid space tourist decides to ruin the first steps by Neil Armstrong

Vanguard 1 is the oldest object still in orbit

[neat bobcat]

Iirc Apollo sites are UN heritage sites

[gritty scroll]

Perhaps you could rendezvous a tourist Spacecraft mission there to just observe it

[neat bobcat]

Actually nah it’s a US heritage site but not UN

[gritty scroll]

I mean like

Just stare at it

[neat bobcat]

The Artemis accords have protections for them iirc

[gritty scroll]

I'm talking about Vanguard 1

Oldest Satellite in orbit

[gritty scroll]

https://twitter.com/NASA_SLS/status/1595809498874380288?t=YxciCo4q9ImGlbSNsq5atg&s=19

NASA_SLS (@NASA_SLS)

Spending Thanksgiving orbiting the Moon? No problem! The SLS rocket is capable of carrying 112,000 pumpkin pies into space. Happy Thanksgiving from the #NASASLS team!

Likes

346

▶ Play video

Twitter · Nov 24, 2022, 4:00 PM

[final arch]

New Fotage:

Views of Moon from Orion:
https://images-assets.nasa.gov/video/ART-SAW4_2022_327_0350_SHARED_art001m1203270350/ART-SAW4_2022_327_0350_SHARED_art001m1203270350~orig.MP4

Views of Earth from Orion:
https://images-assets.nasa.gov/video/ART-SAW1_2022_327_0328_SHARED_art001m1203270328/ART-SAW1_2022_327_0328_SHARED_art001m1203270328~orig.MP4

[long epoch]

What off earth is that sound
(see what I did there)

[rocky basin]

yes very clever

no idea, it also appeared in the las jettison vid

[lone pelican]

extra-terrestrial communications

in reality

probably data

wonder if it's decodable

[gritty scroll]

How is it saved as nov 15 in my gallery

It was on Nov 16?

SLS time travel?

[long epoch]

[lone pelican]

timezone?

[gritty scroll]

Nah

On the app it was nov 16

And it was nov 16 on my phone

[cedar portal]

When is it launching

[raw abyss]

We Are Going!

[idle folio]

We went

[neat bobcat]

2017

[cedar portal]

New Orion pics

[cedar portal]

ORBIT 2017 !

[plush quest]

We are there!

[flat jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/wawa-cat-wawa-oh-the-misery-cat-discord-gif-25805976

[fickle summit]

Orion's got a wild pattern

[final arch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDeNo0fQslo

Next Live Stream

[gritty scroll]

Based

[vapid oar]

chopped moon

[final arch]

https://fxtwitter.com/go4gordon/status/1595937121868869632

[cedar portal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771415746046853201/1045696855163555920/sPMgtH0fKxz7cq-O.mp4

[stoic totem]

https://tenor.com/view/starliner-boeing-starliner-cst-starliner-atlas-v-starliner-atlas-v-gif-17858881

vibes

[worn seal]

https://tenor.com/view/re-rocket-emporium-orion-artemis-reuse-gif-22716290

[cedar portal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWR5tFgJKIQ

oh my fucking god

[mellow crest]

I saw that

Fucking chills

[final arch]

New Images....

[gritty scroll]

Ok

[final arch]

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art001e000478/art001e000478~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art001e000480/art001e000480~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art001e000479/art001e000479~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art001e000476/art001e000476~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art001e000475/art001e000475~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art001e000472/art001e000472~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art001e000473/art001e000473~orig.jpg

[vapid oar]

erz

[safe cave]

https://twitter.com/RussianSpaceWeb/status/1596234870971191296?s=20&t=x8BYyFsPp0iMAjbbtCVDUw

Anatoly Zak (@RussianSpaceWeb)

My very crude attempt to expand those painfully restricted angles of view on Orion:

Twitter · Nov 25, 2022, 8:10 PM

[vapid oar]

Zak, don't open PS next time for your own safety and sanity of followers

[long epoch]

Tbh it's really not that bad

Better than nothing

[vapid oar]

fair tho

[final arch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDeNo0fQslo

[final arch]

Red Bull Time

[long epoch]

[final arch]

PS: He won't sleep tonight, he drank almost everything in one gulp.

[gritty scroll]

Lin

[final arch]

Last Update:
https://blogs.nasa.gov/artemis/2022/11/25/flight-day-10-orion-enters-distant-retrograde-orbit/

[mellow crest]

Choose your fighter:
AnatootanA
kaZ ylly Zak

[gritty scroll]

I don't remember posting this

[final arch]

On Saturday, Nov. 26, Orion spacecraft will break the record for farthest distance traveled by a spacecraft designed to carry humans to space and safely return them to Earth. This distance is currently held by the Apollo 13 spacecraft at 248,655 miles (400,171 km) from Earth. Orion was specifically designed for missions to carry humans farther into space than ever before.

[sacred agate]

No idea how NASA made this mistake in an official video, that’s hella embarrassing

Walt Cunningham’s only flight was Apollo 7

[gritty scroll]

Bruh

[long epoch]

oof

[worn seal]

I mean

It's just a typo

Give the media intern a break, they're probably overworked and doing it just because they want a shot to work with NASA

[gritty scroll]

They should be friends with the intern that wrote "CUM"

[long epoch]

Agreed, doesn't make it any less of an embarrassing mistake

[worn seal]

"Expect perfection in everything and you will only be left with disappointment"

[gritty scroll]

Cringe imperial

[flat jackal]

[worn seal]

Nothing's stopping you from making a metric version 🤷‍♂️

[gritty scroll]

I'll do it later

[neat bobcat]

we got to Moon in imperial stfu

[plush quest]

Cringe units

[urban basin]

NASA does all their engineering in metric nowadays just a lot of the infographics they put out are in imperial because that's what most of the US population understands

[lone pelican]

Goalpost maneuvering

[neat bobcat]

you’d be partly wrong lmao

A lot of engineering work for SLS-Orion was done in imperial/metric mix

[gritty scroll]

You post frequently on SLS subreddit

[neat bobcat]

Im literally a mod on it

[gritty scroll]

You left a comment on a post from r/space 47 days ago

[lone pelican]

The infographics could be badly converted and we'd never know 🙂

[gritty scroll]

Your twitter is CR15PY#0435bacon

[plush quest]

doxxed wth

[gritty scroll]

Your location is 580 College St, Jacksonville, FL 32204, USA

[neat bobcat]

i never knew someone could be so off with where I live

[gritty scroll]

[neat bobcat]

You’ve off by roughly 1,000 miles

[safe cave]

i hope his pet is okay 🙏🙏

[gritty scroll]

Ok so You're somewhere in the east coast

[neat bobcat]

or middle of the US

[safe cave]

i get maryland vibes

[gritty scroll]

The Onion

Spacecraft

[long epoch]

It is composed of several layers

[gritty scroll]

So are astronauts

[worn seal]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-gif-21622087

[mellow crest]

joeben

[ember pulsar]

[gritty scroll]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/642821338700054559/1046130525024292884/art001e000333_orig_stitch.png?width=1440&height=351

[final arch]

Artemis I Live 24/7
https://video.ibm.com/channel/b4dEcL3bJKW

https://youtu.be/GFbVREEtc1Y

[mellow crest]

Anyone have the server banner image in high res?

[cedar portal]

There's everything you need on JSC's Flickr page

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasa2explore/52515187961/

[mellow crest]

Thanks

Wanted to show my dad

[mellow crest]

How do I download the images, there's no button and it doesn't let me do the right click thing on mobile

[final arch]

Not from the cell phone, I'll pass you the link from where I downloaded it.

[mellow crest]

Thanks

[final arch]

.
https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art001e000263/art001e000263~orig.jpg

[mellow crest]

Thanks

[final arch]

No problem

[cedar portal]

You can, there's a button right there that lets you download the image at original resolution (4000x3000)

[mellow crest]

Not there on mobile

[final arch]

But that's from a computer

[cedar portal]

ohhh

[final arch]

From a mibile, the only way is to first download the Flickr app.

[mellow crest]

Pain

[cedar portal]

yup

[mellow crest]

You can just select the browser option to view the site as desktop.

Works on other mobile browsers too.

Not sure why you’re not able to download from the images site on mobile, though. I’ve never had trouble doing that.

[final arch]

I tried before but it wouldn't let me

[mellow crest]

Oh weird

[long epoch]

https://twitter.com/TheTechDude24/status/1596502327871299584

Siddhanth💙 (@TheTechDude24)

Orion RTLS

Twitter · Nov 26, 2022, 1:53 PM

[somber plaza]

Lmao

50 bucks says David has a fursuit

[long epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/ted-lasso-jason-sudeikis-tedlassogifs-dont-bet-on-it-bet-gif-20749011

[final arch]

https://twitter.com/virtualtelescop/status/1596927374670827521

Virtual Telescope (@VirtualTelescop)

BREAKING NEWS: The @NASAArtemis #Orion spacecraft has been imaged minutes ago via our telescopes, while it orbits around the Moon. @NASAMoon
🔭🛰️🚀
https://t.co/TzuYJSyKgb

Twitter · Nov 27, 2022, 6:02 PM

[valid dock]

Artemis I has launched !

[worn seal]

https://tenor.com/view/internet-explorer-gif-24879124

[rocky basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/LMSpace/status/1597221778035986434

[gritty scroll]

https://twitter.com/LM__Steve/status/1597244800847163392?t=-e6wtAXFCsBHqkZf2O30ng&s=19

Steven (@LM__Steve)

Simply had to be done.

▶ Play video

Twitter · Nov 28, 2022, 3:03 PM

[final arch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/721953678143127552/1046805575100530818/image.png?width=960&height=540

Just as the moon was about to cover the Earth, the solar panels moved and the "eclipse" is no longer visible.

At least a part of it is serious, now to edit it so that it can be seen in fast motion.

[cedar portal]

literally 1984

[final arch]

https://fxtwitter.com/conexionspacial/status/1597290668581588992

I almost didn't finish editing it but here it is, the timelapse where you can see most of the "eclipse".

[mellow crest]

^ The originals for anyone that wants to see/download them

[cedar portal]

Bill Nelson is so fucking old

[flat jackal]

like me

[final arch]

https://youtu.be/3bZlfpSOHik

[raw abyss]

wtf the mission is already halfway thru

god times flies

[safe cave]

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1597351590851186689?s=20&t=bZMrF7xlCNUNhz94fNhTUw

Jeff Foust (@jeff_foust)

NASA Administrator Bill Nelson is attending the briefing, wearing an astronaut flight jacket with an interesting patch…

Twitter · Nov 28, 2022, 10:07 PM

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1597359222936993792?s=20&t=6lsLO85qO__bZhTfEq1NDg

Jeff Foust (@jeff_foust)

NASA says the 47-minute loss of communications with Orion last week was a ground configuration issue.

Twitter · Nov 28, 2022, 10:38 PM

[valid dock]

https://twitter.com/NASA_Astronauts/status/1597368251188936704

NASA Astronauts (@NASA_Astronauts)

Record-breaking distance! @NASA_Orion, a spacecraft designed to carry astronauts to deep space destinations, has reached its farthest distance from Earth today — nearly 270,000 miles away!

Twitter · Nov 28, 2022, 11:14 PM

[mellow crest]

Pam Melroy is the Deputy Administrator of NASA and Robert D. Cabana was director of KSC until last year, so I'd guess this is probably some kind of self-congratulatory symbolic patch for the Artemis program in general, rather than Bill Nelson being insane enough to assign himself to a flight.

[safe cave]

nelson is not assigning himself to a flight

he can’t do that lmao

[mellow crest]

Yes that's what I just said

Because people in the replies were acting like it was possibly an actual mission patch

[rocky basin]

Sorry if you’ve seen me do this before, but I read the “blood and money” Wayne hale blogpost and it’s got me in a mood

if the risk of Artemis is realised - and I understand great care is put into trying to stop it, but if it is - and blood is spilt in its name, are we ready to fix the problem and continue? Or have we not communicated the risks well, and such a thing would cause the public to lose their taste for exploration?

I hope the former, but I’m not convinced we’re ready.

[safe cave]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/642821338700054559/1046937725816819833/unknown.png

cryinf

[safe cave]

it’s pretty impossible to not have the public say oh shit and associate x space program with dead astronaut in their mind if something blows

[rocky basin]

Yes, but they if they understand it’s a possibility before it happens they’ll be less likely to demand it be shut down because they didn’t know it wasn’t totally safe.

[safe cave]

i think basically every mission has the “it’s a possibility” deal

but i see your point

[mellow crest]

To be honest I think the big problem with Artemis on this front is that not a lot of people are closely following it at all right now, but I expect that to change by Artemis III or so. If you ask like half of the US what they think of it they'll say "we have a Moon program?" If lots of people are glued to the TV watching launches and landings and one fails then they'll say "fuck... well, they knew what they were getting into" having already internalized the possibility themselves. If someone sees that an Artemis mission killed someone the next morning on the news and didn't even know it was happening they'll be a lot more jarred by it and much less sympathetic to the space program afterwards.

[safe cave]

idrk what else nasa can do lol

[mellow crest]

Not much admittedly

But it is a problem

[gritty scroll]

Can HLS abort a landing if needed?

[long epoch]

Yeah, of course

[final arch]

Artemia I 24/7 now on YT

[mellow crest]

Didn't they also make a mistake with the amount of engines on the S-II in the How We Are Going to the Moon video

Yeah, S-II should have 5 for a total of 11.

[long epoch]

I... How the hell is this mistake made

[mellow crest]

When i first saw it i thought i was wrong about the S-II having 5 engine because like how even does someone mess that up

I mean i just looked up "s-ii stage" and i see like 7 different pictures when you can clearly see it has 5 engines

[empty coyote]

Long sls

[valid dock]

long

[valid dock]

High-res pic

[lone pelican]

Mum just asked me if I'd heard about the onion spacecraft

[valid dock]

What did you say

[gritty scroll]

He is the onion Spacecraft

[lone pelican]

"tf are you talking about"

[neat bobcat]

https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1597687925982257152

Tory Bruno (@torybruno)

Super exciting to be a part of this historic mission and for ICPS to do its part as the last leg of boost. @BoeingSpace @NASA @NASAArtemis @NASA_SLS @NASA_Orion

Twitter · Nov 29, 2022, 8:24 PM

[ancient flax]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasa2explore/52532192756/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasa2explore/52532192641/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasa2explore/52532665350/

[rocky basin]

yellow Orion looks comfy

[mellow crest]

the colorful RGB lighting is appealing to me (I'm a zoomer ) \

[neat bobcat]

https://youtu.be/uDF4wCTZUHE

new camera views

[empty coyote]

Falcon 9 (real)

[valid dock]

I have news

[long epoch]

Let us hear it

[valid dock]

Artemis I has launched !

[long epoch]

OMG!

[empty coyote]

WTF

[long epoch]

Unbelievable

[valid dock]

Yeah I know

Insider news

Keep it secret the world isn't ready yet

[long epoch]

It is safe with me

[empty coyote]

Will do

[cedar portal]

We Are Going !!

Just two weeks away!!

Artemis I is finally going to launch !

[dapper ice]

Decent Video

[final arch]

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/Artemis I MCC DRI/Artemis I MCC DRI~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/Artemis I MCC OPF 2/Artemis I MCC OPF 2~orig.jpg

[final arch]

Orion Sees the Moon and Saturn
https://images-assets.nasa.gov/video/Moon and Saturn/Moon and Saturn~orig.mp4

[empty coyote]

Is this real 😱

[long epoch]

Real photo

[long epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/liam-neeson-i-wish-that-were-so-i-wish-star-wars-gif-5342390

[mellow crest]

It's real. I hot it straight from NASA's website

[empty coyote]

I can't believe it

Starship got there first though

[mellow crest]

lol

it had the engines on the whole way to saturn

[empty coyote]

Magic engines

[final arch]

Finally, Orion to Saturn

[empty coyote]

IS THIS REAL

[valid dock]

Yes

Everything is real

[empty coyote]

No fucking way

[valid dock]

Ily

[long epoch]

Do not lick the powerhead

[empty coyote]

Lick the powerhead

[mellow crest]

they got in

[urban basin]

ITAR isn't real

[mellow crest]

engines look fake

[vapid oar]

[valid dock]

CAT

[empty coyote]

Cag 🥰

[urban basin]

Kot

[valid dock]

I POSSESS CAT

[mellow crest]

oxidizing

[ember pulsar]

an employee already played a prank using callipso, they told alexa red alert, NASA misson control was not amused

[lone pelican]

real?

[ember pulsar]

yes

[ember pulsar]

dont worry it didnt do anything but flash red lights and sound an alarms that wasnt linked to anything

[lone pelican]

well yh obviously

so it is just standard alexa bruh

[mellow crest]

Literally who thought this thing was a good idea

[ember pulsar]

Yes and no

It has multiple differences mainly in its programming

[neat bobcat]

https://youtu.be/fNSmLNWyojA

https://imgur.com/XdOD0P4

ICPS sep

@cedar portal

[cedar portal]

WHAT THE FUCK YOOOOOOO

[rocky basin]

Amazon marketing for starters

[neat bobcat]

Lockheed engineers

[mellow crest]

Bruh moment

[neat bobcat]

why bruh

[mellow crest]

Because Alexa

The only thing I have ever seen an Alexa do is say "I found this on the web" unprompted in the middle of several of my college lectures

[neat bobcat]

Alexa isn't that bad

[mellow crest]

A voice operated system I get in principle it's just that Alexa sucks ass

[neat bobcat]

I've had an alexa for a couple years and its okay

[mellow crest]

What I want to know is who went through and modified the code for the Alexa derivative on an actual spacecraft then thought "should we remove the funny "red alert" prank call prompt? nahhhh"

[neat bobcat]

I mean

why would they remove it

they literally made a party mode

[mellow crest]

Someone says "red alert" during an actual emergency and the Alexa starts uselessly blaring a foghorn alarm and flashing the lights for the funny

[neat bobcat]

who the fuck would say red alert during an actual emergency 💀

[mellow crest]

I don't fucking know

[neat bobcat]

you would say something else not "red alert"

like "oh fuck, master alarm"

[mellow crest]

"I'm gonna be stuck in space with no internet for a month on Gateway, good thing I brought a physical copy of my favorite Xbox 360 RTS game-" WOOP WOOP WOOP WOOP WOOP

/j

[final arch]

https://youtu.be/qRNehCDj53w

Live Now

[valid dock]

https://twitter.com/DutchSpace/status/1598086648499408896

DutchSpace (@DutchSpace)

Per today's Artemis briefing:
ESA's ESM Dutch made solar array's are exceeding their performance by 15% :)

Twitter · Nov 30, 2022, 10:48 PM

[dapper ice]

https://twitter.com/NASA_Technology/status/1597710825044594688

NASA Technology (@NASA_Technology)

We awarded @ICON3DTech a #smallbiz contract to continue work on a construction system that could be used on the Moon and Mars! This technology is designed to use local resources to build infrastructure such as landing pads, habitats, roads, and more: https://t.co/OKIcbwT1Qz

Likes

131

Twitter · Nov 29, 2022, 9:55 PM

They need to bring a 3D printer on A4

[final arch]

Splashdown Dec 11 18:06 UTC

On Flight Day 15, Orion also performed a planned orbit maintenance burn to maintain the spacecraft’s trajectory and decrease its velocity ahead of its Thursday departure from a distant lunar orbit. During the burn, Orion used six of its auxiliary thrusters on the European Service module to fire for 95 seconds. The burn was initially planned for a shorter duration but was lengthened as part of the team’s effort to add test objectives to the mission. The 95-second burn provided additional data to characterize the thrusters and the radiative heating on the spacecraft’s solar array wings to help inform Orion’s operational constraints. All previous thruster burns were 17 seconds or less.

[final arch]

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/11/core-stage-sls-update/

Boeing has provided information to NSF on how the Center Core performed on A1.

Initial orbit planned for Orion after ICPS separation: 30 x 1,805.7 km.
Achieved orbit for Orion after ICPS separation: 30 x 1800.1 km.
Because "An underspeed of 2.1 meters per second (7 feet per second) occurred within parameters at main engine cutoff (MECO)."

[urban basin]

That underspeed is so close to not even matter

SLS really worked perfectly

[final arch]

First burn completed

[gritty scroll]

Fist

[final arch]

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-sets-coverage-of-orion-s-historic-moon-mission-return-splashdown/

[final arch]

https://youtu.be/ppxaKK9papQ

[empty coyote]

guys

I have never before seen news

[worn seal]

Show

[gritty scroll]

Show

[cedar portal]

L2 LEAK : Artemis II just launched

[valid dock]

Artemis I has launched !

[final arch]

When?

[valid dock]

Just now

It's a breaking news

Don't repeat it for now

[final arch]

Game Over for SpaceX and Blue Origin?

[valid dock]

Yes

[final arch]

[gritty scroll]

"Moonaquins"

[cedar portal]

I love my Artemis I lock screen

[final arch]

Yeah

[vapid oar]

[gritty scroll]

The last image is creepy

Limbless

[mellow crest]

even Scott Manley admitted the Artemis footage is worse than Apollo

[worn seal]

The launch footage is a little mehhhh

It all gets blown out by the SRBs

None of the cameras that I have seen accounted for it

[rocky basin]

The best way to appreciate the launch of Artemis I I think was a wide angle showing how it turns night into day

[worn seal]

That's awesome

[cedar portal]

It's funny when you sync a music over the launch footage

[cedar portal]

Also yeah 👆

Everyday Astronaut's wide angle view was fucking crazy

[mellow crest]

I liked the view from the camera on the launch tower

[safe cave]

1. it’s 1 mission compared to 15
2. it’s downlinked video, which is much higher quality than Apollo’s
3. the footage will be better off the landed SDs

[lone pelican]

wasn't apollo footage recorded to film

modern footage is whatever quality it's encoded at

[dapper ice]

Better pictures once Orion Splashes down

[rocky basin]

If the export control lawyers let it out :/

[lone pelican]

space footage is itar im afraid

especially high quality versions of already released space footage

[mellow crest]

the ground footage is also worse

the camera's just aren't as good

and I'm pretty sure we got some "full resolution" images downloaded from Orion as well

[mint reef]

all the footage i've seen has been great wdym

[mellow crest]

It's great but not Apollo great

[mint reef]

apollo was film though

so like, it's different

i'm not a camera nerd though idk

[mellow crest]

gonna be hard to beat this https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasacommons/52501993306/

[rocky basin]

the film isn’t what makes it great though, it’s what camera placement we get to see

[rocky basin]

these guys were so cool

[mint reef]

are there like, resolution numbers for both of them or are we like comparing from what we see with our eyes

[daring knoll]

wait you're back!

welcome back

[mint reef]

hi codeflight

thanks

[mellow crest]

latter

[rocky basin]

effective resolution of film is more complicated than digital, but the upshot is it was a lot better than early digital cameras, but we now have digital cameras that pretty well match the resolution of most film formats

[lone pelican]

hey!

welcome back

[mint reef]

ah

well imo it looks great

and im so happy it got off the ground and was a complete success

[rocky basin]

Whether we actually use those cameras tho might be a different story, a 720p stream from a GoPro is not 35mm

[mint reef]

tyy

[rocky basin]

but on the other hand it is a livestream

[rocky basin]

yeah!

[lone pelican]

yeah because they can't just stream in 1080 like normal people

[mellow crest]

The film cameras back then also had high resolution but it's not the most important thing for image quality

[mint reef]

good to see the artemis 1 channel is still a bunch of complaining

[cedar portal]

If only Schmitt didn't become what he is now

[lone pelican]

you know it

[rocky basin]

ugh yeah don’t remind me

[lone pelican]

the hell https://lunus.xyz/WPZkGU.png

[mint reef]

couldn't expect less from the trio of ryan, sunburnt and the random letter guy

[lone pelican]

why is media in mpeg4 but public in mpeg2

[cedar portal]

Clancy

you literally missed the funniest part of this channel

[lone pelican]

which part was that?

[cedar portal]

When everyone was spamming "We Are Going"

[lone pelican]

oh god yh

[mint reef]

We Went

we came (back to earth)

[cedar portal]

OH WAIT

[neat bobcat]

One of the most ambitious first flights ever being a smooth success

[cedar portal]

There was the vocal thing

it was fucking hilarious

[mint reef]

Hi chris

[lone pelican]

so here's what nasa UHD is streaming http://endpnt.com:8000/nasa-uhd.ts

a downscaled version is found here https://endpnt.com/nasa-hd/

[neat bobcat]

Hi

@mellow crest I got a newer Mars flyby concept for ya

[long flume]

Wen does Orion come home?

I'm very glad its made by Lockheed and not Boeing.

[cedar portal]

11th of December

[mellow crest]

Link?

[neat bobcat]

dumb opinin

[rocky basin]

true.

[mellow crest]

I'm very glad the Earth was taken over by Kang and not Kodos

[neat bobcat]

the entire system performed well, no matter the manufacturer

VACCO is the ones we should hate

[cedar portal]

what did they do

[plush quest]

YOU ARE BACJ

[rocky basin]

Me collecting the NXF stones so I can do what needs to be done

[neat bobcat]

Made shitty valves

http://fiso.spiritastro.net/telecon/Donahue-Duggan_4-27-22/

@mellow crest

[safe cave]

most of it, yes

[safe cave]

the cameras are 4k fwiw

[urban basin]

does anyone know what time Orion will do it's lunar flyby tomorrow

[long epoch]

ELI5?

[long epoch]

Lol that was great, probably the most packed the voice chat has ever and will ever be

I think there was 23 people in there at one point

[cedar portal]

Dumb climate denier

[long epoch]

Wtf? How can a fucking astronaut be a climate denier

[cedar portal]

I don't fucking know, he was literally the only astronaut with a science background of the entire fucking Apollo program

The guy was a geologist

and somehow he denies climate change

[cedar portal]

And meanwhile I was in Uni

(I still managed to watch the launch but I was a bit pissed)

[rocky basin]

It’s amazing how people can be made to see what they need to

[mellow crest]

Only a fraction of available ground footage has been released. There are some absolutely jaw dropping shots that haven’t been shared yet.

Current Orion footage is limited by downlink bandwidth. One of the first things recovery teams are doing after splashdown is pulling cards, which I believe will then be flown mainland. Can’t wait to see the shots we’ll get off those!

[mellow crest]

Goddammit how did I only just find this out

Ugh

[safe cave]

out of curiosity what are those shots of and dyk if they’ll be released?

i also get you might not be able to answer lol

[mellow crest]

I don’t have access to all of the footage, but I’ve seen a lot of shots from around the pad and additional onboard footage. Some colleagues have described the incredible footage they’ve seen that I really wish I had access to. Unfortunately, I have no idea when they’ll all be released.

[safe cave]

fingers crossed that it’s asap

[final arch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppxaKK9papQ

42P

Rescue training last Friday prior to Sunday's splashdown.

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/KSC-20221202-PH_KAA01-0041/KSC-20221202-PH_KAA01-0041~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/KSC-20221202-PH_KAA01-0114/KSC-20221202-PH_KAA01-0114~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/KSC-20221202-PH_KAA01-0138/KSC-20221202-PH_KAA01-0138~orig.jpg

https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/KSC-20221202-PH_KAA01-0058/KSC-20221202-PH_KAA01-0058~orig.jpg

[final arch]

11:43 UTC Second Burn

[serene birch]

Why tf we got a second moon

[final arch]

The earth in front of the sun

[flat jackal]

thx ill steal that

[raw abyss]

minmus lmao

[gritty scroll]

Nah that's Mars

[final arch]

Full video LAS Jettison

[neat bobcat]

https://twitter.com/amrofab/status/1599848516024950784?s=46&t=Z-BAfqIjX2iajeH7_6CT9Q

AMRO (@AMROFAB)

#Orion #SLS

Twitter · Dec 5, 2022, 7:29 PM

Artemis IV window panel

[mellow crest]

big cnc

[raw abyss]

https://twitter.com/NASAKennedy/status/1599855927070380032

NASA's Kennedy Space Center (@NASAKennedy)

The Crawler-Transporter 2 is stationed outside of launch pad 39B at Kennedy Space Center in preparation to return the #Artemis I mobile launcher back to the Vehicle Assembly Building later this week.

Twitter · Dec 5, 2022, 7:59 PM

guys sls rollback :/

[vapid oar]

Artemis I is again being delayed

[lone pelican]

so what's the plan from here

where are we in the artemis 2 campaign

[final arch]

Return to the VAB, complete the inspections after launch to see the other damages and start repairing.

also have to install new things for Artemis II

[final arch]

For the time being, finishing the construction of the other parts, after NASA reviews the Orion data from Artemis I, the work will be faster.

[lone pelican]

any proposed NET?

[final arch]

The motors are supposed to be installed by the end of the month.

after that, Core Stage will be sent to KSC.

[long epoch]

March 2025 at the earliest

[final arch]

Right now it is scheduled for May 2024, a realistic date would be from late 2024 onwards.

[lone pelican]

mmm

great turnaround times

although I suppose that's more a mission readiness thing

[long epoch]

This is based off NASA's own "at least 27 months" estimate which uhhh I have zero faith in

[final arch]

But I agree with Mirande, 2025 is what will probably happen.

[lone pelican]

when'll we have a fully assembled SLS?

[long epoch]

Mirande, that's a new one

[lone pelican]

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/sending-american-astronauts-to-moon-in-2024-nasa-accepts-challenge/#

🙂

[final arch]

I mean, the integration process will be faster on Artemis II than on Artemis I, but now humans will be traveling, so they have to do more checks on some things and make sure that those traveling on that Orion ship return safely to Earth.

[final arch]

ooh, sorry

Miranda

[lone pelican]

I keep getting tweet notifications from other unrelated Miranda (plural) and thinking it's you

[long epoch]

JWST 2007
SLS 2017
ORBIT 2019
LANDING 2020
UHH WAIT NVM. LANDING 2024

I love aerospace deadlines

[lone pelican]

orbit 2019

[long epoch]

We are many

Now I want to meet the other unrelated miranda

[final arch]

I believe he will be back Thursday night/Friday morning.

[vapid oar]

iirc January is SRB integration

(month most likely be wrong but I remember it was early 2023)

[long epoch]

Core Stage won't be delivered by January, much less had its SRBs stacked?

[zenith crag]

Booster stacking happens first

[vapid oar]

I mean A1 core was integrated after twin SRBs being complete

[zenith crag]

And IIRC core delivery is early next year, not sure what month

[long epoch]

My fucking god @lone pelican how many gimmick accounts do you follow

Just went searching for other Miranda and went "wtf"

[lone pelican]

lmao

what's the fun in twitter if it's not gimmicky

[final arch]

The Artemis I Center Core had more tests and stuff, this time it will be finished and sent to KSC, it will not go through Stennis and other tests.

The only engine that will be tested is the ICPS engine.

[vapid oar]

[lone pelican]

guess we're getting a few hotfire aborts this time round

[final arch]

Checking this I just said I saw it on NSF, but sure 99%.

[lone pelican]

[final arch]

WDR will only be done once stacked and at 39B.

No static fires

[zenith crag]

I don’t see why. I believe every one of these engines for Artemis 2 has fired on the ground before, and two of them have flown shuttle missions

RS-25 ain’t Raptor

[lone pelican]

it was a joke bruh

[dapper ice]

July 2024-2025 Is probably the window for A2 Launch???

[zenith crag]

Also my brain finally clicked and considering A2 is going to be later in 2024, I assume stacking ops would start sometime maybe late next year

[dapper ice]

Isn't the core stage getting it's engines installed soon

[zenith crag]

Yes, should be about now

It’ll be delivered to the KSC early next year and… wait

Because SLS isn’t the pacing item for the mission

[dapper ice]

A2 could launch earlier then we think

A3 will get delayed a shit ton

[final arch]

In particular, Core Stage 2 is approximately 85% complete according to Zietsman, with engine installation work set for completion by the end of the year ahead of a planned spring 2023 shipment of the stage to the Kennedy Space Center.

[raw abyss]

kinda epic

[final arch]

“We’re very far along across our assembly and integration of Core Stage 2,” said Zietsman. “We’ve got our major assemblies done; we’re getting into our functional test of the engine section, and then the next major event that we do after the engine section functional test is the integration and final mate — the mate the rest of the assembly to the LH2 [liquid hydrogen], the LOX [liquid oxygen] tank.”

The main assembly of the LH2, LOX, forward skirt, and intertank structure for Core Stage 2 is already assembled.

[dapper ice]

Status update on Orion for A2???

[final arch]

Correction, what will be sent to Stennis will be the EUS for the Green Run in 2024.

Like the Core Stage, the first EUS will head to the Stennis Space Center for a Green Run series of tests, including a full-duration hot firing of its four RL10C-3 engines.

While Boeing is the prime contractor for the EUS, Aerojet Rocketdyne will build and supply the RL10C-3 engines for the stage.

At present, the first EUS Green Run is scheduled for 2024. “We’re tracking to that plan, and we’re moving along through finishing up the design phase while we’re getting all of our components ordered and the qualification hardware in work,” noted Zietsman.

[dapper ice]

A2 can't come soon enough

[final arch]

The only thing I know is that they have to wait for Orion from Artemis I to return to process the data and remove some equipment or hardware, since a part that flew on Artemis I will fly on Artemis II.

[final arch]

Orion heat shield arrived in October at KSC

Some parts of the LAS are also already in KSC.

NASA mentioned at some point that what they were doing during the latter part of this year was powering up the vehicle for the first time to check that everything is OK.

[final arch]

Well, I just checked and that was in June.

[neat bobcat]

Most of the work is waiting on A1 Orion to return so they can get those reused components

[neat bobcat]

It was Moon 2019, then Moon not, then Moon 2028, then Moon 2024

[dapper ice]

2 SLS rockets in a year????

Would be great but no

[dapper ice]

When do we get the Astronaut selection for A2????

[neat bobcat]

After Artemis I comes back

[final arch]

Yep

[dapper ice]

So like a week or longer????

[neat bobcat]

SLS production cadence can be easily modified to support 2 SLS a year

[final arch]

I would say that next year

[neat bobcat]

likely longer

[dapper ice]

Gonna need SpaceX to pump out a HLS quickly

[final arch]

Maybe when Center Core comes to KSC

[neat bobcat]

SLS-3 is gonna be waiting for so long lol

[dapper ice]

Makes sense

Want a British Astronaut to be on A3

[neat bobcat]

Saying center core implies there are other cores attached

[neat bobcat]

A3 is going to be all American

[dapper ice]

What about A4

[neat bobcat]

A4 will have a European astronaut

But they won’t land

[dapper ice]

ESA needs to hire SpaceX to have them land on the Moon

[neat bobcat]

ESA and JAXA are currently trying to win NASA’s favor in getting the first international landing seat

[dapper ice]

Is that going to be on A5

[neat bobcat]

No

A5 is gonna be another European astronaut staying on Gateway

[dapper ice]

Just hire SpaceX

[dapper ice]

When will this be then???

[neat bobcat]

to be decided

Still trying to figure out what the second lander is gonna be

[long epoch]

Okay? If it has the bipartisan support y'all claim it does, then why hasn't it happened

[neat bobcat]

Im curious what will happen first

[neat bobcat]

Because there’s no mission demand for twice a year yet?

[lone pelican]

hell freezing over or SLS being worth it

[neat bobcat]

Nah core stage arrival or Starship OFD

[long epoch]

Finally someone uses the proper term!

Thank you

[dapper ice]

Because it's NASA

[neat bobcat]

CS-3 will probably be ready for delivery in 2024

[dapper ice]

If they can launch A3 in 2025 like they say they will i will be shocked

[long epoch]

A3 in 2025 is literally not possible

[valid dock]

It's A2 in 2025

[long epoch]

You don't have to be me to recognize that

Hell, A2 in 2025 is iffy

[dapper ice]

https://www.space.com/artemis-3-moon-landing-mission

[neat bobcat]

Artemis III launching in 2025 depends on HLS being ready

[long epoch]

That's their stupid aspirational goal they stick to for no good reason. Same as SpaceX saying December OFD-1

[zenith crag]

I like to think of A3-A5 timelines as decoupled from the non-SLS/Orion/EGS elements, since those are more in flux and missions can always be re-baselined

[neat bobcat]

I think Artemis II is more certain to fly in 2025 considering the advanced state of everything for it

[dapper ice]

I mean they are not going to be able to launch SLS in less then a year

[zenith crag]

The holdup there would be data review and pad turnaround after Artemis II

[dapper ice]

July 2024 - July 2025

[long epoch]

March 2025+

That's 27 months

The best estimate we have

[neat bobcat]

27 months is February

[long epoch]

It's not gonna be any sooner than that, the question is how much further

[dapper ice]

They need 27 months to get it ready???

[final arch]

Speaking of going to the Moon, new news.

NASA is working on a robotic arm that can work at -173°, cold temperatures are a disaster for robots, this is the beginning of a solution.
https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasa-is-testing-a-new-robotic-arm-that-really-knows-how-to-chill-out

[neat bobcat]

27 months to do data analysis, refurbish reused parts from Artemis I, finish Orion, lots of pad testing

[long epoch]

If I had a penny for every fucking question mark you used I'd be a very wealthy woman

[neat bobcat]

Artemis II is gonna spend a lot of time doing tests at the pad

[dapper ice]

I use them a llot

[zenith crag]

Certain avionics components from Artemis I’s Orion are being used on Artemis II, which has unfortunately led to 1:1 delays with the mission so far. Once Orion is back on the ground and the avionics are looked at, the schedule should shore up quickly enough

There won’t be any Green Run, or COVID (hopefully), or first-time hiccups to drag out the schedule like with Artemis I

Tho anything can happen

[neat bobcat]

There is already Artemis II hardware at the cape as well

[final arch]

While COLDArm won’t be operating in liquid nitrogen, it could operate on a lander sent to a frozen ocean world like Jupiter’s moon Europa, where its lack of heated parts would have the added benefit of allowing collection of volatile materials without significantly affecting the temperature of samples. It could free up some two hours of time and up to 30% of a mission daily’s energy budget that Mars rovers like Curiosity and Perseverance spend warming up their robotic arms so their gears don’t stress and break in the cold.

Amazing!

[dapper ice]

SLS won't delay anymore hopefully

Will probably be Orion

[neat bobcat]

ICPS-2 has been vibing at the cape for probably a year now

[long epoch]

Hasn't #3 as well? Or at least it's finished?

Like, isn't the DCSS line already shut down

[neat bobcat]

ICPS-3 is still the works

I think it will be delivered next year or 2024

[long epoch]

Ah hmm

Hell if I can remember where I heard that then

[lone pelican]

SpaceX will go under if Starship doesn't orbit next month

[zenith crag]

wasn’t the Thanksgiving letter talking about a launch every two weeks by the end of 2022?

[long epoch]

Yep

[zenith crag]

Yeah the roots of the 2024 goal were… not the best

Arguably did more harm than good

[long epoch]

To be perfectly fair... Neither was "we choose to go to the moon" in 1962

But the political landscape is dramatically different today, so

[zenith crag]

IMO one of the reasons the HLS/SLD contract structure is so weird rn is because the previous NASA admin was all-in on 2024 and did a very weird contract selection and the next admin is trying to correct it without totally walking it back

[raw abyss]

flashbacks to WDR attempts for A1

[somber plaza]

The mouthy Orion!

[final arch]

https://twitter.com/marswalkerr/status/1599845924444213249

Sanket Savani (@Marswalkerr)

@ThePrimalDino 2 different era of spaceflight: can't describe in words

Twitter · Dec 5, 2022, 7:19 PM

https://fxtwitter.com/go4gordon/status/1599825688772902912

Gimball on action

[lone pelican]

wait hold on they're shuttle OMS thrusters?

how did I not know that

[long epoch]

Of course, they're "AJ10"

[lone pelican]

I presume they don't come back

[long epoch]

Correct, except in this case I am all for that

The fewer "AJ10" in the world the better

[cedar portal]

Rare David Willis W

[neat bobcat]

https://twitter.com/Thales_Alenia_S/status/1599736251967733760?s=20&t=Qs63CKiMM2EHSoVPTe6Gxw

Thales Alenia Space (@Thales_Alenia_S)

While @NASA_Orion is about to make its closest approach to the Moon🌕, the backbone of the fifth @esa European Service module, the one that will serve @NASAArtemis mission V, is getting ready to depart from @Thales_Alenia_S in #Turin, to continue its integration phase in #Bremen.

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Twitter · Dec 5, 2022, 12:03 PM

5th ESM making good progress

[dapper ice]

What are they doing for A5???

[valid dock]

Ariane 5 is retiring soon

Hope that answers your question

[neat bobcat]

Launching ESPRIT to gateway

[dapper ice]

i Mean Artemis 5

[neat bobcat]

2nd landing

[dapper ice]

What HLS are they using???

[neat bobcat]

Starship

[dapper ice]

A 3rd time????

I thought it was only for A3 and A4

[neat bobcat]

Wait no

I got confused

Starship was originally slated for A5 but got moved up to A4

The SLD lander will be used for A5

[mellow crest]

I've asked this before, but I wonder if there's anyone out there who thinks that space is real, the Earth is round and goes around the Sun, and that everything from the Shuttle on including Artemis is real... but that Apollo specifically was faked. As in, only the Moon landings specifically were faked for prestige after the Soviets beat us to orbit and we couldn't find anything else to do. Moon truther purism.

It's still batshit insane but also really funny.

[valid dock]

There is

[dapper ice]

People still believe that???

[cedar portal]

Literally Interstellar

[valid dock]

I saw people saying that this time they are going on the Moon for real not like, I quote "the Apollo bullshit"

[mellow crest]

Bruh moment

[mellow crest]

Fuck I forgot how much I want to punch the principal from Interstellar

[neat bobcat]

I think the second landers are getting announced within a month

[mellow crest]

Oh yeah I forgot about the second landers

How many are they potentially selecting?

[cedar portal]

this so much

[neat bobcat]

well one

[mellow crest]

Ah

[neat bobcat]

but I do think they're downselecting to two

then one

[cedar portal]

What'll be interesting is the infos we'll finally get on LM and NG's proposals

[neat bobcat]

considering they're taking much more time with this program

[cedar portal]

Now that they separated themselves from National Team

[mellow crest]

How many proposals are there now?

[neat bobcat]

they aren't truly seperated

National Team is still working together

there are just seperate teams within Lockheed and Northrop working on their own landers

(yes they can do that)

[neat bobcat]

at least 5 i believe

[mellow crest]

What are they?

[cedar portal]

So what happens if for example Northrop gets the contract ?

[cedar portal]

Blue Origin, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, Dynetics and uhhh

[mellow crest]

I think I saw a collage of them here at one point recently but can't find it now

[neat bobcat]

Lockheed, Northrop, NT, Dynetics, and SpaceX but they're technically not competing for this specific contract

[valid dock]

SpaceX

[neat bobcat]

they get the contract, simple

[cedar portal]

Yeah seems obvious

I don't even know why I asked in the first place

[mellow crest]

Found it

[neat bobcat]

SLD is gonna be plagued with problems

considering that its underfunded and more ambitious

[lone pelican]

what the FUCK is the BO craft

[lone pelican]

SLD?

[neat bobcat]

Sustained Lunar Development

[lone pelican]

oh the program

ok

[neat bobcat]

two stage lander

[valid dock]

Dynetics

[neat bobcat]

Descent and Ascent element have merged

[lone pelican]

dynetics is cool but they seem to have forgotten the ladder and then dropped it in there somewhere

[mellow crest]

Honestly the Dynetics one has always been weirdest-looking to me

Both the old and new ones

[cedar portal]

The Northrop and LM ones look really fine

[lone pelican]

so SpX are still contracted for first lunar landing?

[cedar portal]

yeah

[neat bobcat]

yes

they're contracted for first and second

third is planned for SLD

[valid dock]

I just really like the flat stable look Dynetics one has

[neat bobcat]

and well iirc SLD is split into two contracts actually

One for developing the second lander and one for upgrading Starship HLS

[lone pelican]

HLS starship my beloved

how many landings per spacex lander did we say?

(ie per craft not contract)

[neat bobcat]

HLS for A3 will be disposed

[lone pelican]

damn

why?

[neat bobcat]

how are you gonna refuel it

[lone pelican]

isn't that the whole point of starship

[neat bobcat]

sending tankers all the way out to NRHO is a very complicated and risky CONOPs

[lone pelican]

fair

[neat bobcat]

in its reusable config its supposed to be refueled on the Lunar surface iirc

but SpaceX and NASA haven't looked out that far yet

[lone pelican]

I see

yh gonna be a whiiile before that happens

[neat bobcat]

mhm

though i hope we have some level of surface infrastructure by the end of the decade

[lone pelican]

how actually viable is on moon prop stuff

[neat bobcat]

NASA is starting to invest in developing that sort of tech now

[neat bobcat]

well making Hydrolox shouldn't be too hard

but CH4 is where it gets interesting

because they need to figure out where the Carbon deposits are and AFAIK its not abundant

unless you want to ship Carbon up from Earth or somewhere else

[mellow crest]

SpaceX's entire mindset when it comes to the Starship HLS contract can kinda just be summed up as

[lone pelican]

lmao

[lone pelican]

wonder what the viability is of a fully stocked carbon starship

like would it be enough to get both landers back

[neat bobcat]

to Earth?

maybe

[lone pelican]

earth orbit anyway

if they cared enough they could do stuff from there