#emulator-support
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@hidden monolith currently I am in crown 4 so that means a lot of work again to reach crown 4 in next season
@sullen fulcrum cool
nope
Ok
Yes we can actually
How
You can find such videos on YouTube mate coz I also don't know the whole procedure
I tried to install the apk afyer switching the language to chineese but still thw game wouldnt work
When they gonna release fix update?
Its more like 30 now
I know but they must have given a date because it was 1 day ago
@sullen fulcrum You have to launch the game with emulator settings changed to chinese language
Yesss finally update :D (hope it's coming this week)
I am using phoenix os and its not detecting tha tI am on emulator and am matched with mobile players is there any kinda risk to my account?
doesn't phoenix use Octopus for keymapping? if so there's definitely a risk
@neat sedge no risk bro. game wil detect it as a emulator
@inland fiber he said that it doesn't detect it
@next breach are you using phoenix os roc?
if so then change it immediately to normal phoenix os. otherwise game is gonna automatically ban you because of octopus
Yup
but whats the issue with octopus the normal one also uses it
whats the issue with octopus the TGB also uses it watch carefully that blue figure pops up
the problem is Roc version is not detected as emulator and normal one detects as a emulator. if it is not emulator then it's a mobile device. Mobile devices can't use keyboard and mouse
that's why it will ban you
Buy when game detects emulator then any keymapper is fine. because that's a computer.
TCGB does not use octopus @next breach
ah man it uses a blue face pops up and i am 70% sure though it does not have apk related to it
main thing is you can't use octopus as long as game thinks you are using mobile device
ah wait keymapper doesnt get ban I used to use it earlier on mobile
@next breach what blue face are you referring to? in TCGB the keymapping is implemented in the emulator - Octopus is an android APK
So for your account safety you have to change it to normal phoenix os. Just a suggestion. it's your choice.
You now know the consequences
@next breach TGB is programmed for pubg mobile. It doesn't have octopus or any other keymapper.
@inland fiber umm ok but I will confirm from some staff too since keymapper must not be a issue
your wish buddy. Keymapper is the issue. you are not allowed to use mouse and keyboard on mobile devices
Will there be a Version of Pubg Mobile in Microsoft store?
It would be a lot faster and better
Is the 100% cpu usage fixed
Have they fix 100%cpu usage because that notice is not coming
Why did the half blind man fall in the well? Because he couldn't see that well!
Bro i am just asking is they fix it?
@gleaming rock is the 100 usage fixed
@lime sparrow Phil isn't around, but according to the pop-up when you go into TCGB the issue is fixed and is being rolled out in the background.
I have never had problems with TCGB performance so I have no idea if I've got the fix or not lol
Guys my specs is pentium g4560 and 1050ti with 8gb ram its works fine at 720p smooth setting but it lags a lot when i do 1080p hdr settings.. What should i do my cpu goes to 100%..?
@here
Then my game is fixes!
@cloud nacelle i dont know regardibg this
Then who can help me?
@neat sedge
Okay
@neat sedge
Guys my specs is pentium g4560 and 1050ti with 8gb ram its works fine at 720p smooth setting but it lags a lot when i do 1080p hdr settings.. What should i do my cpu goes to 100%..? Can u help me???
@cloud nacelle I would wait a while and see if you get a fix
But i am still having the program aow_aow being using 100 cpu usage
@neat sedge can u talk to developers?
@cloud nacelle 1050ti should be able to do 2k with no problem, even when paired with a weak CPU - I have a Core 2 Quad Q6600 and 1050ti machine here, gets 40-50 fps smooth all the time
@lime sparrow so wait for the update
guys please tell me CPU 100% has been fixed or not?
@cloud nacelle no I'm just a gamer like you
@safe flame according to the message when TCGB boots it has - be patient and the fix will be rolled out to you
@neat sedge okay..actually i do livestreams so does that make anyproblem?
@cloud nacelle yes it probably will - livestreaming will consume CPU and maybe GPU resources
Pentium g4560 is a dual core
@cloud nacelle I don't recommend dual core for playing an emulator and streaming at the same time!
Okayy
cpu will blast lol
yeah but higher resolution = higher encode workload
1080p twice as many pixels to encode
use GPU to encode = shadowplay
Okay
One nore thing is there any difference is sound quality while playing on smooth and while playing on HDR?
More*
@cloud nacelle not that I am aware of but I never have to play on smooth
Okay can just tell me ur emulator graphics setting?
I have three computers
my main PC = i5 6600k oc'd to 4.4ghz, GTX 970, 16gb DDR ram
gets 60fps at 2k resolution, HDR
my old PC = Q6600 oc'd to 28.ghz, GTX 1050ti, 8gb DDR ram
gets 40-50 fps at 1080p resolution, smooth (I don't play on this one, my son does)
my laptop = i5 7300HQ, GTX 1050, 8gb ram
gets 55-60 fps at 2k resolution, HD
I'm honestly surprised the laptop runs the emulator so well but its really great to play on
I seems to remember that CPU being a good alternative to an i5 back in the day
but this emulator really needs a quad core
and streaming as well will eat up power
Though i got 60fps on pubg pc
@safe flame They did say it will be fixed within 24 hours but not sure if it's been fixed yet
Whats that mean?
I saw this but not sure if they implemented it yet
it says the fix is being rolled out
Oh I noticed that now
but how to know that if you have latest update or not ???
Let me open it up
but since there's no graphical confirmation who knows!
Lol
it says it will update in the background
I'd wait a day maybe
but I have never had the bug, so this doesn't affect me
Didn't receive any updates yet
it will update in the background and use your cpu 100% lol
@gleaming rock if it updates in the background with no confirmation how would you know...
dev just added this popup lol
you could look at see if it touches any files after running
Can anyone tell whats the reason behind this game why does it needs that much resource being a mobile game?
I always kill the process in the background
so not sure if it updated instantly or not
@gleaming rock same xD
@cloud nacelle its an emulator
the game is compiled for arm processors and uses OpenGL ES
you're running it on a PC that needs x86-64 instructions, and uses OpenGL or DirectX
@cloud nacelle As the guy above me said
it's an emulator not a port
there has to be translation of arm instructions to x86 in real time
and translation from OpenGL ES to DirectX in real time
that overhead increases the CPU resources required to run the game
So much technical stuff😅
Not really hard to understand to be honest
Yeah i got it
First it is processed by real machine then virtual machine.. Dual processing causes lag.. At low end pc
According to devs the program named aow_aow has been scripted to use 100% cpu. So they would have fixed it would no longer be running. But it is still there. And there is still 100% cpu usage
@lime sparrow that's not at all what it is
Is the 100% problem happened from Recent update or they're going to update it to use less CPU? 🤔
In short think that the emulated game speaks chinese and your pc speaks English
and the emulator is the google translate
which is trying to run the game as well as imitate a structure from a different device
@warped sluice They fix is being rolled out
it's a matter of who got it
those who have the 100% issue will soon find out if its fixed or not - just need to wait
Ya
I had 100% issue two weeks ago
The game updated two weeks ago so that makes sense
and they're fixing it with a game update, which also makes sense
what doesn't make sense is that the update is happening in the background
and not through the normal mechanism - but then, I think emulator users get a different build to android device users so maybe it kind of does
we get a build that doesn't need google play APIs on the emulator as far as I can tell
because the emulator doesn't have those libs
I wonder if I get 100% usage because my CPU can't handle the emulator or because there is a problem with the emulator
Hey @neat sedge
I just played one game
And i can play smoothly with 1080p 60fps hdr without livestreaming
did you try shadowplay?
open geforce experience and turn on the overlay
alt+z
though I don't know what kind of CPU/GPU consumption it will use
I think OBS only encodes on CPU
but I am not a streamer nor am I an expert
No it has a setting to encode through gpu
did you try that?
Yup
and did it kill your performance?
then it seems likely that shadowplay will do the same but its worth a try, right?
@neat sedge
Ram: 8gb
GPU: GTX 750 ti
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 260 Processor 3.20 GHz
@warped sluice 750ti is fine, but that CPU....
I will give it try
too weak CPU right?
@warped sluice maybe you will get 30fps?
I get 20
leave the emulator settings on the defaults and set smooth/extreme in game
see what FPS you get in the training area
@gleaming rock just came home after my drawing class dude
cool
My motherboard was made in 2011, can it handle a newer AMD processor?
I highly doubt it
but you can pick up a Q9650 and compatible motherboard for peanuts, if you want old that's value for money right there
I just tried both the settings
@cloud nacelle really??
Yes
how did you determine that there was a sound quality difference
(speaking as a former audio software developer and sound engineer)
I dont know
But i can feel the difference
With gun sound and steps
U should try
@cloud nacelle I might give it a go later. I honestly have never noticed.
@cloud nacelle welcome
I have to get some stuff done now, will leave you in Phil's very capable hands
😁
At this point i think they might as well roll out an update for the emulator because it hasn't been updated for a long time and i still from time to time get the 'updating configuration files 98%" error.
@gleaming rock My Game got fixed thank you for your concern ! 😃
Wait what was the problem again?
100%
Oh that
They rolled out the update
@earnest gale It fixed the 100% cpu usage issue
@gleaming rock
@earnest gale Less cpu usage=more extra performance as well dude
@north fable Yeah I saw that
yep
Firing mode?
TGB @peak swift
yes TBG sorry
np
I still got 90%+ cpu usage problem🤔
@frozen coyote It was supposed to update in the background
Close the game but leave your tgb running in the background for a few minutes
@frozen coyote Also what's your spec?
@gleaming rock yes it worked, thanks
What worked?
The cpu usage fix?
Hi, is there still %100 cpu usage problem?
Cause I can not play still. After a while my screen completely turns to black and i can not fix it except pulling cable to close computer. What should I do? Open the tencent emulator but not pubg?
@cerulean delta Did you check the task manager to see if the cpu usage problem is still there?
The fix is being rolled out and is suppose to update in the background
@gleaming rock Yes it is more than %70 usage. And as i said, after a while(after 10 minutes) the screen goes darker and stays like that... Now Should I open emulator and wait?
@cerulean delta Open the emulator <opening the game is not necessary>
Then wait for a few minutes
The update might download in the background
@gleaming rock How can I understand that it is completed perfectly? I will do it now...And let you know if it is solved
There is no visual progress bar to show if the download is complete
so all we can do is guess if it's complete
@gleaming rock What do you suggest if it is not solved?
Use a different setting
Or set the process priority to a low in the task manager
Like this way?
Leave it like that for a few minutes or so
@gleaming rock I have already done setting the priority to a low in task manager(the lowest actually). It keeps having same CPU issue. Now I am waiting for the update. I hope it can solve. I do not know what to do anymore. I have done everything I can do so far. And I havent been able to play it for 2 days. It is frustrating
I haven't touched any battle royale games recently so I wasn't even aware of this bug until many people started complaining about it
@gleaming rock Many times, updates ruin game. It is caused by last update. Now I am playing . So far nothing happened
Well I got some good news for ya
Since this is an in-game update instead of the entire game
Your key bindings will be saved but your sensitivities will be reset
Or wait is that the new fix update
It won't affect none of them
oh thank god
I dont really have a sensibility preset
So everytime i change my Sensibility it acts differently
"in the background" = mining
That would be a really trashy move for them actually even tho you mean it sarcastically
Well I got some stuff to do
Gonna see you dudes later
@gleaming rock For now it seems like it is okay. 👍🏻
Bye phil
@gleaming rock Unfortunatelly I have same problem still. I do not know what to do I have done everything that you suggested. Please help me about this, it is so annoying...
Does it bans your account by using this emulator also can I install the files to my usb drive?
Also im installing it on my pc but the installation is so slow on my computer
Someone gimme link of Chinese Tencent gaming buddy pls
same link - just delete "en"
@cerulean delta Sorry for the late response
What's the problem?
Is it new or does it still have something to do with your pc shutting down
@gleaming rock Still having black screen after playing a while
What emulator settings are you using and what pc specs do you have?
@cerulean delta Post a screenshot of your emulator settings here
@analog magnet sorry for the late response. no, your account will not be banned for using an emulator. as long as that emulator is detected by the game, you're fine. if you're using an emulator that is not detected, only then are you risking a ban.
@forest copper There are currently no google sign in method in tgb
You either have to buy it through a phone or any other emulator that supports google sign in
Ok
anyone know what is the best setting for optimal framerate and smoothness?
i maxed everything but still not as smooth as I expect
my spec should be able to run this smoothly
@raw mural Depends on your pc specs
i7 2600k, gtx 1060, 16gb ram
You got a decent rig there
Let me look up ark intel
Hmm
3.4ghz
4 cores, 8 threads
Try these settings
<wait for me to type>
@raw mural
🔴 Render cache
🔴 Enforce Global Render Cache
✅ Prioritize Dedicated GPU
✅ Rendering optimizations
API: <varies from pc to pc, some pc get better performance in open gl and some in direct x>
Processor: 4 cores
Ram: 4gb
Resolution: <Mostly preference><The lower the res, the more the performance but more blurry>
DPI: Doesn't affect Performance but affects mouse movement <depends on resolution>
What is the best graphics for tgb? Smooth-extreme-colorfull?
Core i5, 8gb ram, 930mx
@gleaming rock why disable render cache? i thought it's used to 'minimize choppyness' from what i read in the tooltips
@novel lantern Extreme framerate should be selected
Smooth gives you more framerate also a few tactical advantages, but also disables muzzle flash
The color mode are upto your preference
@raw mural The Render cache evens out the Average fps with 1% low/0.1% low's but it does decrease the maximum framerate for some people
Also for dpi option use this
120 for 1024x768
160 for 1280x720
240 for 1366x768
360 for 1600x900
480 for 1920x1080
ok I got the dpi correctly at least 😅
i'll try this setting in a quickgame and see if it works
sometimes when I get close encounter the fps drops really kill me
Wait that might be the opposite for the render cache thing I explained
Disabling it does help many people but my explanation might be the other way around
@dusk pumice I said the opposite didn't I?
@gleaming rock i'm not sure, tbh, about the render cache.
I play pubgm on PC with tgb but it lags a lot so I switched to phoenix is roc lite and am using octopus for key mapping I'm not trying to bypass the "emulator detected" message will this get my account banned ? I don't want to take any risk cause I already spent a lot on my account.
SMOOTH SETTINGS:
-Nvidia Painel = set vsync to "adaptive"
-Windows = disable "Fullscreen Optimization" and "dpi mouse optimization"
-Tgb =
🔴 Render cache
🔴 Enforce Global Render Cache
✅ Prioritize Dedicated GPU (turn off fo iGPU/APU)
✅ Rendering optimizations
-API "DirectX+", Res. 1080p (same resolution of the display), dpi 240, cpu "2 cores", ram "2~4gb", AA "close"
-Game = "HD 1080P (put in 2k for better Anti-Aliasing results )" and Display "Balanced"
TURN OFF VT (only for TGB)
@graceful jungle That's a confusing question since Phoenix os uses octopus as a key input method
But I haven't heard of anyone who got banned because of it
@peak swift That control panel Vsync to adaptive thing
I gotta note that down
What happen if i disable render cache?
@proven cedar It kind of affects the 1% low and the 0.1% lows
Turn it on if you already get near 60fps
But turn it off if you encounter framerate spikes
Sometimes my framerate drops below 20 what should i do?
@proven cedar Then turn it off
@peak swift adaptive sync in nvidia cp is gsync. it will only work if you have a gsync monitor. given how expensive those are, chances are people won't have a compatible display. they're better off using fast sync instead
@gleaming rock okay
@dusk pumice nop
Adaptive Vsync is not Gsync
adaptive vsync is gsync
when we're talking about nvidia
if it's an amd gpu, adaptive is freesync
gsync and freesync are competing forms of adaptive sync
Adaptive = turn vsync on FPS above 60fps
Turn off if the fps bellow 60fps
nope. that's what you would like it to be, but it isn't
what you're describing is fast sync
gsync is a HW tech
please, google it
i dont need it
fastsync create a second buffer to smooth motion (like a vsync on) but with unlocked fps
@gleaming rock phoenix os doesn't detect emulator that's bankable right?
@graceful jungle The last time I used Phoenix os
it did detect it
If it doesnt for you then don't use it
can somebody help my tgb is not taking commands from the mouse
@glad fable tap ctrl again, it gives the mouse its usual state
If it doesn't works then clear cache of both the emu and system and restart
@glad fable u got windows 10?
Nah win 7
@glad fableok, open run command
Type prefetch in it
Hit enter and delete everything in it
Then type %temp% in run and delete everything in it too
Thnx mate will definitely try that
@glad fable ok, if that doesn't works as well then feel free to contact me or @gleaming rock
Ok
@proven cedar a quick suggestion, if your processor got virtualization then enabling it will greatly reduce the lag
U can DM me if u want to go in detail about why enabling it helps in getting rid of lag, the enabling process can be searched on Google as it varies in different motherboards!
Was there anything done about this? Cause i still get this error.
And am i the only one who has this problem?
room: 42275 pass: 1234
@cinder compass what happens after it gets completed? Does the game starts? Does this error comes again and again each time u starts the emu?
Does it even gets completed?
@vagrant bay it didn't work
@vagrant bay Gets stuck at 98
The method you told me about worked a few times, but now it doesn't even launch.
@cinder compass Dude sorry to say but the only way I know to fix it by reinstalling the game
I did reinstall it, i swear. And i have no problem reinstalling stuff because i use wifi.
Did you reinstall it after deleting the leftover files?
okay
I'll be here
The fact that annoys me is that i had no problem running this game like ever, no 100% cpu usage problem like everyone else was complaining about, but out of the blue i get this irrelevant B.S problem.
@gleaming rock Bruhhh, it worked!
Happy to help
Thanks alot. Time to get ace back.
Gotta go
I got a test tomorrow
what happen if i disable VT @peak swift @gleaming rock
hello @tight sedge
Can i use a custom resolution in tgb? If yes then how?
open TGB engine then click resolution @torn sparrow
@north fable u will get a lot of lag because turning off the VT will only allow one logical core to work on your emu, emu is like an operating system, in windows 10, if u want another OS including with win 10 then u need to turn on the VT to make all your logical cores work for that OS
Bluestacks prompts a message when u start it for the first time that u need to turn on VT otherwise it will lag a lot
And I have seen it by myself that before turning on the VT I faced a lot of lag, that much lag that I didn't even wanted to play PUBGM on TGB anymore, than I downloaded bluestacks and then the message showed up, and after turning it on, I m back on TGB
for me OpenGL+ is more stable
@north fable What are you referring to by VT?
There is sound lag issues what do i do?
@sudden current What emulator settings are you using
and what's your spec?
Pc specs right?
yeah
as well as emulator settings
That won't be necessary
Okay
for tgb @gleaming rock
You should set your Ram to 2gb instead of auto @sudden current
@north fable Yeah what do you mean by VT?
How do i do that
@sudden current Change it in the emulator settings
Also try changing the API since Smart mode might give a different result to different pc's
As far as I've seen
Smart mode doesn't go that well with AMD cpu's
Okay thank you
Yeah but what do you mean by VT?
iTACHiYesterday at 6:59 PM
SMOOTH SETTINGS:
-Nvidia Painel = set vsync to "adaptive"
-Windows = disable "Fullscreen Optimization" and "dpi mouse optimization"
-Tgb =
🔴 Render cache
🔴 Enforce Global Render Cache
✅ Prioritize Dedicated GPU (turn off fo iGPU/APU)
✅ Rendering optimizations
-API "DirectX+", Res. 1080p (same resolution of the display), dpi 240, cpu "2 cores", ram "2~4gb", AA "close"
-Game = "HD 1080P (put in 2k for better Anti-Aliasing results )" and Display "Balanced"
TURN OFF VT (only for TGB)
@gleaming rock this one
Oh that
hey phil did they fix the prob man i need to get my jeans
the cpu 100%usage one
@gleaming rock
@elfin cobalt Yeah they fixed it
whtttt
when
man they should make a emulator news channel
i go thnks @gleaming rock take care
question, what is this process doing?
seems sketchy
is it true that tgb has miner on when we play it?
@raw mural That process has been running in the background for as long as I can remember when I open TGB
Ending the process doesn't do anything
Also takes up only a little bit of cpu usage whereas a miner would take up as much as it can
damnn pubg still lags after 100% cpu update
@raw mural there are still some parts of how the emulator works that I haven't figured out yet. I don't know what this service does, but as @gleaming rock said it doesn't use any CPU/GPU/Ram so don't worry about it
@gleaming rock have you tried to see what happens if that service is stopped and disabled?
Has the 100% CPU update come already or is there still more to come?
answered my own question - you can stop and disable the service, it seems to do nothing. So if it makes you feel better, disable it. No reason to think it is malicious though.
@velvet pendant it will always lag on weaker CPUs. It doesn't like older Core 2 processors, it doesn't like old Athlons, it doesn't like low end APUs, doesn't like Intel u-series CPUs...
@peak swift get a better computer
not possible
With emulator does lowering graphics helps? becuase i dont think it does
@peak swift I only see a tiny difference in framerate when doing that
@peak swiftyes but not good enough, or it wouldn't lag
my laptop runs this game really well - its a low end gaming laptop, i5 7300HQ + 1050
can run at 2k resolution, 55-60fps in HDR mode
is there another way i can play on emulator, maybe a different program?
@peak swift TCGB is the most efficient emulator out of all of them and it has the best keymapping. Memu is a close second for the keymapping but the performance is worse.
if you have a desktop PC you could over clock it
one of my older computers runs the game not so well so I overclocked it 20% faster
my son plays on it every day now - Q6600 oc'd to 2.8ghz, 1050ti gives 40-50 fps
@neat sedge is intel g4600 a weak cpu? .-. damn should have bought something better..
its a dual core pentium without boost mode?
intel turbo boost - under load the CPU clocks certain cores really high. Depending on cooling you can boost all cores.
how do you do that?
your CPU doesn't have it, but it does have a pretty high base clock
you should be fine surely
either that or the emulator really doesn't like dual cores
ayy what?
have you got nvidia or AMD graphics, not intel
how much ram?
8gb is minimum really, I never saw this emulator run well on PC with only 4gb
anything that relies on the CPU so much is going to stutter if something in the background interrupts it
if your PC isn't generally running smooth with no interruptions the emulator won't either
my son had a windows update the other day in the middle of a gaming session, he was lagging all over the place
on my main desktop PC I didn't even notice
that's not what I'm talking about
is your PC properly configured for gaming? have you checked your power settings?
are you using any kind of snake oil game booster, gaming overlays, crap like that?
anything that runs in the background has the potential to make the emulator stutter on a weak computer, but those game boosters do more harm than good
the emulator needs as much CPU as you can give it, all the time its running. It is also memory hungry, and i/o hungry - you've got to think of it as the heaviest program you are going to run on that computer, not some lightweight thing
unless you have a beast PC you are always going to be on thin ice performance wise with any emulator
I have a beast PC and the only thing that can bring it to its knees is the RPCS3 playstation emulator - I tried to play Uncharted and got about 15fps lol
The question is not intended for me but
the only thing that runs in my background is NVIDIA notifications, and Windows defender security center
and XTU service
@gleaming rock what do you do to stop the evil windows update though...
honestly windows 10 uses system resources in the background like a drunken sailor on his first night of shore leave
I don't know how to
I lost a lan match a few days ago because of it
A year I could disable it
But now doing that doesn't seem to work
I can see the point of game mode for this sort of thing, but it doesn't work for TCGB
since TCGB relies heavily on "invisible" background processes it does more harm than good
I was playing CS a few days ago which is not even demanding when my computer froze <which almost never happens with me>
So when I restart the computer then bam
Windows update
turn on Windows 10 game mode and it will make TCGB lag hard
I know
I don't even use game mode unless I need to record something since it is less demanding than obs
I have it all turned off, don't need it
my PC was designed and specced to run emulators, not much else
what lol
Windows Gamemode dude
I get bluescreen every few times when I play pubg
pubg PC or TCGB?
TCGB
@velvet pendant seems to indicate you have other problems
anyways
PUBG TGB is mostly played since most of the cheap rigs come with a decent cpu
And not a gpu
I got irql_not_less_or_equal or something like that
might be from my tp-link wireless usb thing
yeah
I don't mind playing a single player game at 15fps or high graphics if the game is good
I finished Zelda Breath of the wild with 12 fps
@gleaming rock no way I couldn't do that
it runs great in CEMU on my rig, but I only got as far as the first Divine Beast and sort of stopped playing
this was around the time PUBG mobile came out...hmmm...
Finished 50 of the shrines
All 4 divine beasts
Killed ganon twice
45 of the side quests etc
Also got the master sword
I played Crysis (the first one) at 25fps though as my rig at the time was crap
I got the master sword
done god knows how many shrines
just got bored and stopped playing
I finished Far Cry 5 with 20 fps
you see, I have so little time for gaming these days I don't have patience to fiddle
I just dug deep and bought a decent PC
then this year dug deep again and bought a decent laptop
now I don't have to worry, the games just work and I can make the best use of my limited gaming time
but I have done ALL of that fiddling and faffing to get stuff to work
it was no fun, looking back lol
quick test shows that windows game booster now makes no difference to TCGB performance, for me at least on this computer
I might try it on the Q6600
interesting
either way, that Q6600 is going to get upgraded next year as well
I see you can get a Q9650 for £50 on ebay, no reason not to
I mostly save up money for games rather than hardwares
I'm going to give it as a project for my son to do
I could've bought 8 more gb's of ram with the money I spent
he will have to dismantle the PC, new paste, new cooler etc.
should be a fun day if you like that sort of thing 😃
Seems like an easy job for a beginner
yeah but its in an old dell with a BTX motherboard
the inside of that thing is a HORROR
I have a spare LGA775 motherboard kicking about, we might just do a full build
@hollow dome good luck man, I doubt I will reach crown before the end of the season, not after the way I've been playing this week
Didn't really get to play much of games apart for some lan tournaments
I need only 34 ranking points to reach ace
Well I gotta go now dudes
@gleaming rock @hollow dome catch you later, got to go cook the kids lunch
wait lmao I think I fixed it
Mine is still having high cpu usage problem
Cpu usage go upto 100% and then everthing is freezed. I can't just control.
@lime sparrow the update is supposed to happen in the background, but there's no way to tell when it is complete. Try restarting TCGB completely and leave it running in the tray for a few hours.
@neat sedge I did it for about 45 minutes ad restarted but still 100% usage.
@lime sparrow did you have this kind of problem before 2 weeks ago?
@neat sedgeyeah
A program named aow_aow is eating the cpu. Like 50 to 60% of cpu is used by it.
Before the update it never happened. Cpu usage was well below 60%.
@neat sedgebut above 50% us too much usage
@lime sparrow Open the emulator and leave it like that
As it downloads in the background
No need to run the game when it downloads
its an emulator, it will use as much as it needs to
people with faster CPUs don't have this problem as more FPS can be generated from fewer CPU cycles
if you have a slow CPU, it will need more cycles to generate the same FPS
once CPU usage reaches 100% if you aren't at 60fps you won't be able to go higher
now, there has been a bug - one of the processes runs away with itself and pegs at 100% (on a weak CPU)
just wait for the update
@neat sedge but see I was playing with about constant 30 to 40 fps before this update. And after this I am getting 10 to 15 fps and it even drops to 3 fps. And cpu usage 100%. It can't be the falt of pc I think.
@lime sparrow its a bug, that has been fixed
but even then if you could only achieve 30-40fps that means your CPU isn't fast enough to run the game at 60fps, or you've capped your frame rate with the ingame options
if you can reach 60fps with the smooth/extreme setting in game then your CPU is fast enough to play this game
anything less is a compromise
remember folks, FPS scales linearly with CPU usage till you reach 60fps after which it will be capped
@neat sedge Which game do you think did has an amazing optimization to it's pc port?
@gleaming rock I can't remember ever playing a PC game where I thought "this is so well optimised"
Like of this gen
which game would run on a toaster hmm - maybe SWBF1?
Battlefield 3 too - just about anything DICE makes with Frostbite seems to scale well
it can run and look great on a Xbox One and it will look gorgeous on a top end PC
Yeah I agree with that
Frostbyte engine games look visually stunning while being optimized like black magic
Even all of the Battlefield games run at 60fps on the base consoles
compare that to COD
I bought BLOPS 3 - that game has the worst optimisation I can think of
COD has been mostly using the Infinity ward engine which is a modified Quake engine
Dunno what kind of engine is used in the treyarch games
Whatever they used for BLOPS 3 is a dumpster fire
the game runs bad on anything less than 16gb RAM and 4gb VRAM
CPU hungry as hell also
I can't say
That game can barely hold 60fps on 1080p ultra even on a modern high end rig
but Frostbite is one heck of an engine, its just a shame that EA don't make good games any more
I miss Battlefield 4
Had too much fun playing it
If you want to know what I think the worst optimised piece of software in the world is, that would have to be Adobe Lightroom
my god that program is slow and I use it for hours every day
Can agree with that
But I think there;s worse
But can't put my finger on what the name is
adobe lightroom runs like a dog with three legs
I can't imagine how people doing exposure stacking at 40mpx cameras get along
my PC would die
One of the ports that surprised me this decade was Metal Gear Solid V on PC
@neat sedge It would give me about 40 fps even though rhe cpu usage was below 60% . It never went under 30fps.
I expected it to be horribly optimized since most of the Metal gear games were mostly focused on consoles
@lime sparrow and how are you measuring that? Task Manager never tells the whole story, you have to look at total CPU usage while the game is running
@magic ocean Mostly talking about that
Anyone knows how to fix that?
@magic ocean What's your specs and emulator settings
@neat sedge yeah I know but I always asured that nothing ran in background and also the performance monitor was well below 50%
@lime sparrow look at this - CPU consumption overall is 39% but apparently TCGB only accounts for @19%
there are hidden processes
that you can't see in task manager but you can see in Resource Monitor
you realise though that if you can't reach 60fps with a low CPU consumption you are bottlenecked elsewhere, right?
or your framerate is capped
@neat sedge task manager doesn't show all the programs and their usage. But performance monitor provides with all actual programs and usage.
Laptop i7 6th gen, 8gb ram, some amd graphics and I play on 720p with everything on low. Things is it used to work fine but I tried it like a week ago and it struggled a lot to run. After the 0.9 update I suppose
@lime sparrow that's right - but as I say, your bottleneck might not be your CPU
assuming you are CPU bound, FPS scales linearly with CPU consumption up to your frame rate cap
if you are not entirely CPU bound, you will max out on something else before you hit 60fps
@magic ocean Do you have an exact name for the i7 cpu u have?
Like i7 8600k?
bear also in mind that there is interprocess communication overhead, thread syncing etc. that means you might never achieve a solid 100% cpu usage even with an uncapped framerate
after all, there are a lot of moving parts and they need to sync up
Is your VT turned on?
@vagrant bay I don't believe that TCGB needs VT
other emulators do (especially those based on Virtualbox) but TCGB doesn't work like that
@neat sedge well it does, as it is an OS
@vagrant bay no its an emulator
I don't think you really understand how these things work
I know it is an emu, but the OS in it is android
yes
If u don't believe it then try bluestacks
@neat sedge Yeah you are right. Mine processor is weak its dual core @3Ghz. But still it capable of running tgb at 40 fps, i suppose. And I don't think this should be the cpu' fault
It will say to turn on VT at the very start
bluestacks uses a different technology to TCGB
yes because it needs it, but TCGB works differently
Idk, I see a lot of improvement after turning on the VT
did anyone from Tencent ever recommend turning on VT-x? not that I'm aware of
@vagrant bay in TCGB?
Yah
@lime sparrow no you just need the udpate
@vagrant bay I haven't done any comparisons, maybe I should
Your wish
Also one of my petty complain is how people refer to Low framerate or stuttering as "LAG"
U can also check whether all of your cores are working while u r running TGB using MSI Afterburner
@neat sedge but it's now about 30 to 40 min that i have left it as said. Its the last hope that it works fine after 1 hour.
@vagrant bay that isn't related to VT
Huh?
core utilisatoin is not related to VT
Isn't VT means all cores will work on another OS instead of 1 core?
no
Lemme Google again
that is absolutely not what it is at all
VT-x is a special virtualised instruction set to speed up virtual machines
it gives the virtual machine lower level access to the CPU
as I say, I'm not convinced TCGB even needs it (Tencent don't mention it in their FAQ) but I would be convinced by testing
from intel's own description of VT-x - Intel® Virtualization Technology (Intel® VT) represents a growing portfolio of technologies and features that make virtualization practical by eliminating performance overheads and improving security. Intel® Virtualization Technology (Intel® VT) provides hardware assist to the virtualization software, reducing its size, cost, and complexity. Special attention is also given to reduce the virtualization overheads occurring in cache, I/O, and memory.
if you have some software that emulates a CPU it can use VT-x instructions to accelerate the emulation
nothing to do with core utilisation
you seem to be getting confused with affinity, which locks processes to cores
@gleaming rock have you tried running TCGB with VT-x enabled and disabled?
I have it disabled by default
you can check your VT-x status in Task Manager on the CPU tab - it will say "Virtualisation: Enabled" if it is on
it can only be enabled/disabled in the BIOS
It's off as far as I know
I think it is disabled by default on new PCs
I didn't bother turning it on
I use a lot of VMs in my work so I always turn it on when setting up a new PC
I have never tried any VM or emulator with it off
pretty sure both Virtualbox and VMware will cry if it is not on
key point though is that TCGB does not use a virtual machine
Someone must have got me confused
@vagrant bay you can check your VT-x status in Task Manager on the CPU tab - it will say "Virtualisation: Enabled" if it is on
it can only be enabled/disabled in the BIOS
I enabled it though
if TCGB works better for you with it on, that's cool
I will retest
@neat sedge what's your rig specs
I have three computers
I don't think it will be that effective
@neat sedge the one on u play lmao
this one is an i5 6600k oc'd to 4.4ghz, 16gb ram, GTX 970
As far as I know it only works best for different os's
And this is just an emulator
@gleaming rock emulators based on virtualbox will not run properly with out it
Like bluestacks
so that would be memu, nox, etc
bluestacks not based on virtualbox
but if it asks for it, it needs it
That part still gets me confused
if it asks for it it needs it
That's why I enabled VT on my pc
Nox and Memu will ask for it
Yep
Yep
you'd think if it would improve performance a lot they'd be telling people to turn it on
because on new PCs it is generally not enabled in the BIOS
Btw, I got i5-8500u with 2GB AMD Radeon RX 530, is it bottlenecking?
what FPS are you getting
what settings in game?
emulator is not GPU bound
in fact, I crank mine up to 2k and it barely tickles even at 1050
(that's my laptop)
we think the emulator does not like U-series CPUs, and does not like dual cores
my laptop performs much better with an i5 7300HQ
My friend got 1050ti with AMD RYZEN 1600X, 59 fps most of the time other than stuttering
the game is never 100% super smooth I think
@neat sedge super true
but that's more likely uneven frame times
it is a point of fact that Tencent have never released minimum specs
so we don't know what hardware they are targetting
if you can't hit 60fps in smooth/extreme though you are bottlenecked somewhere. Most likely your CPU is hitting its TDP bounds as its a low power CPU.
designed for battery life, not performance
check your power config and make sure you have it on high performance, and if you're on windows 10, move the power slider in the tray all the way over to the right
Other games, it always hit 60fps
@vagrant bay think of this "game" as the most demanding thing you will ever run
Yes it is at best performance mode while I game
try running CEMU or RPCS3 on that rig and get back to me 😃
I can run BOTW in CEMU at 60fps
Can't barely run anything in RPCS3 at 60fps, maybe Soul Calbur 4
an emulator will take everything your computer has and ask for more
But it never shows high utilisation of anything
first of all, how are you measuring that
second of all there is interprocess sync going on which means for at least some of the time there is waiting going on
while waiting it will yield to other processes
no process can be totally selfish or it will take down the whole PC
Being selfish isn't good anyways 😀
the emulator is highly multi-threaded
programming something multi-threaded is very hard to do right - I'm a software developer and I don't much like it
you get wierd bugs from race conditions and all kinds of other issues
4 cores with HYPER-THREADING isnt sufficient!!!!
no that;s the laptop
That's what I said it for
and the GPU barely matters
Lmao i get 40-50 fps with a 4 years old Pentium proccesser
the i5 7300HQ has better sustained performance than your i7 u-series
Yep
u-series are low TDP CPUs
U series is for laptops
I bet it has longer battery life than mine
How much is yours?
@neat sedge I still don't know what the difference is between K series and the X series cpu's
Would you mind explaining
K for overclocked
@gleaming rock k-series have unlocked clock multiplier, which makes them trivial to overclock
I don't know about X though
@neat sedge search for i9
i9-7980XE
The X series is more like a "remastered" K series
Just search lmao
18 core good grief
I started out with a Commodore Vic 20 - this stuff is science fiction
you don't want to know what a commodore vic 20 cost in around 1980
I would like to know that
anyway my boy and I are going in game
48
according to quick search its $900 dollars after adjusting for inflation
@vagrant bay no software engineer
yes
Nice
Its easy, just like expensive lego
I was saying to @gleaming rock that we were going to do a CPU upgrade on an old PC
Yah that's why I asked that, I saw that chat
will let you know how we get on - get some parts off ebay, bang 'em together = fun
xD
😃
Can't add u as a friend though, shows an error of rechecking the spaces, numbers, etc. @neat sedge
why my pubg mobile lags during stream?
@gleaming rock I'm gonna install tgb now
Is there anything I should do before installing it that might help to get a successful installation
@dusky zealot What kind of pc do you have and are you using a capture card
@peak swift Delete the leftover files
@gleaming rock which files are we looking at
@dusky zealot It is pretty obvious for your game to suffer performance dips if you are streaming the game on the same pc as you're playing at even an i7 8600k
And also as this is an emulator, it's mostly cpu dependent so that also adds to the problem
@peak swift The "temp" folder and the files in %temp%
Then skip that one
No need to restart
Yeah dude?
I don't use anti virus's myself since they run in the background taking up cpu usage
Well in this laptop we got 1 year subscription included so we are using it
Otherwise we don't
Windows defender is the best
Don't need any anti virus if you're careful enough
It's mainly upto you
Well I disabled it for a while
So that many people have written it's cause the antivirus software interferes
disable it when u playing
It was working fine
Just one day suddenly it started showing error 1
@north fable not working
@gleaming rock same error man
Well that didn't work as well
What am I gonna do 💔😥
i mean , disable antivirus when u playing on tgb ... after playing enable it again @peak swift
@north fable it shows error 1
Failed to launch tgb
And shows sorry failed to install
i have 1 solution maybe it will work
@peak swift try multi window option?
Hmm
If I m not wrong then Phil and I came to a conclusion that the solution of the error 1 is reinstalling the emu again
Did u deleted all the files too?
@peak swift @gleaming rock If anyone have this error 1 problem then tell this solution
first of all you PUBG Mobile current apk version ( 0.9 ) - download it from playstore then create apk
don't download it any third party website .
2nd , run tgb in Chinese language . click on game then click on delete PUBG corrupt file .
3rd, paste apk in ( C:\Temp\TxGameDownload\MobileGamePCShared ) - this location
4th, install apk from this location
It will Installed successfully .
this method work 100% for me .
hope this method will help you.
Happy Gaming 😃
@gleaming rock you can pin this , if you want .
@north fable I'll pin it if it works
It's upto @peak swift to test
Its easy
Use your phone to download the apk
I have it
You don't even need the phone
just download it from in-game browser
Backup done okay
yep
@gleaming rock true though
Anyways, now send it to your pc
Send that APK to your pc
don't download from apk pure
in game browser toooooo muchhhhh slowwwww lol
Lol
@peak swift now go to the settings of TGB and change language to chinese
Get back to the home screen of the TGB now and u will see the homescreen of a phone
Now select pubg in Chinese TGB and delete it
@north fable am I right?
yep @vagrant bay
uhm okay wait
Open it then open TxGameDownload then Open MobileGamePCShared in it
Wait for it get opened
Meanwhile I will write the steps
Paste that APK in it
Now right click on the APK and click on open with Tencent Gaming Buddy
That is delete button?
yep
nope
Oh k
automatic configure
Nice :GWfroggyWeSmart:
tgb aint opening
click again
in that folder there is one game com tencent 1.47gb apk
opened with admin too
doesn't open
Restart your pc otherwise or kill tencent gaming buddy in task manager
hmm
If I would have got that problem, I would have simply deleted that txgame folder in temp folder and would have deleted every single file of tencent gaming buddy in safe mode
@peak swift for more help send screenshot here
in an hour my friend
haha yea
@vagrant bay GN
No update yet?
lol
Here gpu stay around 30%
more gpu more frame

