#This is What I have to say about HM...

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solemn sun
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This is something I`ve endured in silence for far too long, and I have to speak up now!!!!!
What follows may provoke resentment or even personal attacks from players who exploit bugs to gain unfair advantages in the game.
This issue concerns a systemic bug related to the "herd management" strategy.
If this flawed program logic remains unaddressed, theHunter: Call of the Wild will no longer be the pure, fair hunting experience it was meant to be.

Here`s the breakdown:

A subset of players has thoroughly studied the game`s spawn mechanics and discovered that through manual intervention, they can drastically reduce the number of huntable prey. By combining this method with herd management to control prey levels, they can even slash the number of huntable male prey from a substantial population down to a mere dozen or so! With a massive base of low-lvl prey in place, all subsequent spawns of huntable prey will be high lvled ones, ranging between Diamond and GO quality. In this way, they can obtain Diamond and GO at an extremely high rate while rotating only a tiny number of animals.

This is absolutely a bug derived from the game`s flawed spawn logic. Can this bug be fixed? Can we eliminate the possibility of obtaining GO by deliberately reducing the overall prey population?

pallid nest
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It’s been specified to be not a bug or exploit by EW themselves multiple times

solemn sun
pallid nest
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Yuh

solemn sun
pallid nest
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It’s not 😭 it’s just using game mechanics

solemn sun
# pallid nest Yuh

Maybe it`s a technical problem that EW cant solve by themselves, so they let it be.

topaz sail
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Yeah it's literally just a different way of playing

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That's like a casual player in minecraft getting mad at speedrunners or people that build in creative

solemn sun
topaz sail
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Don't compare yourself to a different play style then lmao that's on you

small basalt
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In simple terms, if you dont like it , dont use it, everyones game is their own , play how you like.

night hearth
solemn sun
# small basalt In simple terms, if you dont like it , dont use it, everyones game is their own ...

You may not be aware that in China, we have a large player base, and many of us are part of dedicated chat groups. In these groups, we share screenshots of our trophy to express our love for the game and engage in friendly competition with one another. However, once the method of manipulating prey populations emerged, countless players switched to this tactic to obtain high-quality trophy animals at an absurdly high rate.
This has left players like me—who choose to play by the rules—feeling utterly helpless. Suddenly, I realize that the game has lost its sense of community. Is this really what EW wants to see? A community where everyone plays for their own gain, with no regard for fair play?

trim wagon
merry dawn
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G1s are still obtainable without grinding.

lime gazelle
merry dawn
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G1s were always intended to incredibly rare as a wise man once said "something the average player may never see"

lime gazelle
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HM has been in the game for almost 4 years now, why are you suddenly complaining now OP? Lmao smh

merry dawn
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And grinding has always been a thing in video games since the dawn of time I dont see cotw as any different

boreal sky
tepid kernel
safe pier
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It may be a translation issue, but saying "Even by reducing the total population?" isn't really applicable in any way as the total population of animals never changes. If you have 600 Whitetail on your map, that number will never change. HM'ers are not reducing that number, they're merely making it so the average animal spawns skew towards the higher end of the spectrum rather than the low-middle end.

tepid kernel
safe pier
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I think we have a different idea of the term "exploit", but to each their own. I don't even herd manage the way that most around here do, what with exteriors and interiors and swapping and such. I just shoot all max weights alongside the weight directly under it. I only have one great one (a fallow) but it was using my method and I got it to pop in under 500 kills. Actually my method for grinding is to spend a few hours and kill around 100-150 medium weight animals (say, 70-85kg whitetail) while keeping all max weights, then after than I go kill a few other things to make sure all my respawns came back then I go every max weight. Rinse and repeat. I don't min-max at all, just shoot the biggest animals and even then before I new gamed, my fallow population was stacked with diamonds, and I didn't even do herd management like others do. So, again... to each their own 🙂

small basalt
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An exploit is something that isnt supposed to be in game, the devs acknowledge it as a 'feature'

tepid kernel
safe pier
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Getting more than 16 tents on a map = exploit. Using a treestand to become "invisible" = exploit. Shooting high level animals to spawn in high level animals =/= exploit.

tepid kernel
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Getting all up in your feelings= Priceless

safe pier
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If the 1985 in your discord name means the same as mine, then you should know better than to say something such as that, but I digress. I shall leave you to your opinions, at the end of the day it's just a video game. It doesn't impact real life, and feelings don't really play any part in anything I say. I bid thee farewell, (supposed) fellow unc 🙂

tepid kernel
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Oh come on it was just a little bit funny ya!?!?

topaz sail
solemn sun
solemn sun
# safe pier I think we have a different idea of the term "exploit", but to each their own. I...

Dude, I play the exact same way as you do. But now some players are exploiting loopholes — or rather, the respawn mechanism — in HM to intentionally reduce the population of huntable prey, cutting it down from a potential 100 to as few as 50 or even less. Just imagine how easy it becomes to get G1s when the target pool is that small. You can basically grind out one G1 every single day, which only takes like 3 to 4 hours tops. Can you believe one of my buddies already has over a hundred G1 moose under his belt?foxUnamused

solemn sun
merry dawn
solemn sun
merry dawn
safe pier
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Blatant misinformation is blatant. In no way shape or form can you completely remove an animal from a population. The only way this can occur is if you shoot a male fox but not the female companion, then the male cannot respawn without its companion.

topaz sail
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Again entirely your own fault for comparing two different playstyles

solemn sun
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OK, thank you guys for kind explanations. this conversation can be terminated...GL to all.

pine nexus
pallid nest
pine nexus
pallid nest
small basalt
astral hemlock
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"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE you must not use herd management, i don't like it so it must be patched out REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" typa suggestion