Coastal Southeastern Alaska: Flippers, Wings, Hooves, and Paws on the Pacific

[steep sun]

Southeastern Alaska is home to a wealth of unique environments and associated species (including small game) making a fantastic analogue to Salzwiesen Park but a a full-sized reserve. As such, it will be small-game oriented but has potential for large game species (terrestrial and aquatic) as a full-sized map. Some of the returning species will be reskins of comparable animals due to similarities between species such as marten.

BIOMES:

• Alpine Tundra/Meadows
• Cliffs
• High Altitude Conifer Forests
• Temperate Rainforests
• Beaches
• Fjord Inlets
• Marshes
• Rivers Valleys
• Marshes

SPECIES:

RETURNING ANIMALS:

• Coastal Grizzly Bear (Remodel/Rename + G1) -- Class 8
• Alaska Moose (Subspeciation) -- Class 8
• Mountain Goat -- Class 4
• Coyote (Remodel) -- Class 2
• North American Beaver -- Class 2
• Red Fox -- Class 2
• American Mink -- Class 1
• Willow Ptarmigan -- Class 1
• Rock Ptarmigan -- Class 1
• Snow Goose -- Class 1
• Northern Pintail -- Class 1
• Green-Winged Teal -- Class 1
• Harlequin Duck -- Class 1

RESKINS/RENAMES:

• Sooty Grouse (Coastal speciation of Dusky Grouse) -- Class 1
• Coastal Wolf -- Class 6
• American Marten -- Class 1

NEW ANIMALS:

• Northern Elephant Seal -- Class 10
• Stellar's Sea Lion -- Class 8
• Northern Fur Seal -- Class 6
• Harbor Seal -- Class 4
• Sitka Blacktail -- Class 4
• Wolverine -- Class 2
• North American Porcupine -- Class 2
• Canada Lynx -- Class 2
• American River Otter -- Class 2
• Sea Otter -- Class 2
• Fisher -- Class 1
• Ermine -- Class 1
• Hoary Marmot -- Class 1
• Snowshoe Hare -- Class 1
• American Red Squirrel -- Class 1
• Arctic Ground Squirrel -- Class 1
• Northern Flying Squirrel -- Class 1
• White-Tailed Ptarmigan -- Class 1
• Spruce Grouse -- Class 1
• Ruffed Grouse -- Class 1
• Sandhill Crane -- Class 1
• King Eider -- Class 1
• Red-Breasted Merganser -- Class 1
• Wilson's Snipe -- Class 1

[undone flame]

Ngl Sitka blacktail should be class 3 but regardless good concept

Having bigger game like grizzlies and stone sheep on a small map would be a bit weird tho

[steep sun]

this is true, thinking about removing them to replace with birds

maybe more diving ducks

hold on, editing time

[steep sun]

removed bear and stone sheep and threw in pintail and white-winged scoter

[steep sun]

i can see full potential for this as a full -sized reserve with the listed big game animals I put in here but i'd much prefer a salzwiesen esque smaller reserve just chock full of upland birds, diving ducks, and furbearers

[undone flame]

A map like that could provide something unique for the game

[steep sun]

the only furbearer not on this map just due to location is american badger

[smoky kettle]

I don’t think mountain lion belongs on this map 😭 otherwise great

[steep sun]

thou have a point, ima remove it lmao

[hazy horizon]

Stone’s Sheep don’t live in Alaska at all and cougars are not yet established a breeding population in Alaska and the vast majority of Moose in Alaska are Alaskan Moose

Mountain Goats on the other hand are a good fit for a full-sized map and since your including Sea Otters I would also suggest a pinniped species like Harbour Seal

If you want a larger predator species I can suggest the Alexander Archipelago Wolf or Coastal Wolf (Canis lupus ligoni)

[undone flame]

Ngl I didnt even notice mtn lion and forgot stone sheep dont reach there 😭

I was kinda paying attention to the new stuff

[steep sun]

Yes this is true, although to my understanding the southeastern portion of alaska harbors Western Moose given the locale; that said I will drop in harbor seal as an added pinniped due to the fjords being included

Edit: Also, I was of the impression stone sheep partially ranged into southeastern Alaska near to the fjordlands per this range map (if it will load)

That said this appears to be outdated, so I will remove them from the list

[hazy horizon]

Thinhorn sheep in general don’t live in the southeastern islands of Alaska

Mountain goats exist on Baranof Island and the Alaskan Panhandle in Southeastern Alaska

[hushed blaze]

Would sitka not be a new species? Pretty sure the blacktail on Layton are Colombian no?

[steep sun]

It would be, but i filed it under potential large game because my primary aim is for this to be a Salz analogue that is smaller sized than a regular reserve and has entirely furbearers and fowl and other small game

almost everything would be class 1 and class 2

[hushed blaze]

In that case I’d consider adding sandhill crane

[steep sun]

I did indeed consider them, especially since this is pacific flyway; i thought I had included them in the list but evidently not. Thanks for the notice!

[hazy horizon]

I think Sitka Deer could get a pass for a Salzwiesen-sized Alaskan map

[steep sun]

I will shift stuff around to add them to the list then, because as y'all said its fully justified

[hushed blaze]

I was really hoping they’d add roe deer to Salzwiesen. Even though they aren’t small game I feel that they would’ve fit the theme well enough

[lethal quartz]

Lol, you beat me to it 😂😂

[steep sun]

lmfao, indeed I did; hope you like what I came up with!

Most recent edit to remove sharp-tailed grouse as I cannot find evidence of them inhabiting the southeast of Alaska, only the central regions in the yukon area per Alaska Fish & Game

[supple sapphire]

Same thing😔

Ngl this would be better than mine, I had the exactly same idea sadly

(Also if you wanted to, you could add tundra swans since you are able to hunt them in alaska)

[steep sun]

Ah yeah you did have a very similar idea; I didnt add Tundra Swan because this is the Juneau area where (as far as I know) they are not present and do not migrate through; I did put snow geese on the list after removing sharp-tailed grouse though

[supple sapphire]

Got it

[surreal lantern]

Gimme some Harbor Seals and I’ll be happy

[steep sun]

figured theyd do well to fill out the fjord inlets alongside the otters

and the diving ducks

[fast swift]

zach you never miss

[steep sun]

I originally also had sharp-tailed grouse in this BUT there's no evidence of them in the Juneau area or really the entire southeast; its just sooty, spruce, and ptarmigans

also thanks lmao

[fast swift]

sharp-tailed would be neat and all but spruce grouse are cool enough for the both of them lol

[steep sun]

Still trying to figure out which species I would like to recieve the Great One on this reserve; feel free to drop ideas in here as well

[fast swift]

coyote seems like the obvious choice to me, 1:1 analogue of releasing the red fox with salz

more reason to remodel as well

[true meadow]

this is great, i love this. valid😁

[steep sun]

thanketh 🙏

[hushed blaze]

I’d like to see wolverine or grizzly get a GO, mountain goat could be interesting too

[steep sun]

both could absolutely work

[median notch]

I upvoted for this being a full sized map. Would rather not see any more small maps personally, plus the animals it could have would definitely support a larger map. The more Biomes the better imo.

[steep sun]

totally valid; the whole lineup including the large game I mentioned would make for a killer reserve

[hazy horizon]

Another large aquatic animal that would fit well is the Stellar’s Sea Lion

It would have to be at least Class 7

[steep sun]

Coastal Southeastern Alaska: Furbearers, Seals, Sea Lions, and Fowl on the Pacific

[steep sun]

Edited the species list to attach the rest of the resident large game and also expand the roster of pinnipeds; edited title accordingly

[lethal quartz]

Yeah, I like it. Much better than what I had in mind ngl 😂

[steep sun]

Thanks! I revisited the list a bit to formally make this a full-sized reserve with all the native hooved game plus some more small game like porcupine and ermine as well as more pinnipeds if youd like to look at the revised list

Coastal Southeastern Alaska: Flippers, Wings, Hooves, and Paws on the Pacific

[lethal quartz]

It'd be nice to hunt otters and seals on the same map lol. I'd want this in game

[steep sun]

It'd be a fantastic reserve! the only issue is i dont think anything with 30 ish species is less than 18 months of dedicated development lmfao

Most recent edit: slight alteration to introductory paragraph and addition of arctic ground squirrel as well as american red squirrel

[fast swift]

i'd expect them to pick and choose anyway for balance or whatever. i don't really anticipate any map exceeding 20 species except maybe africa

[hazy horizon]

That is my line of thinking, it would be cool if Africa 2.0 ends up being twice the size of the standard size to accomadate the Big 5

[lethal quartz]

What else could we potentially get on this?

[steep sun]

a couple more species of goose, diving ducks, and some shorebirds

a few types of plover and rail mainly to my memory

otherwise im fairly sure this is an exhaustive list

[dreamy bane]

Yes

[buoyant pewter]

The Grizzly in Yukon is supposed to be the inland version (they do need a remodel badly) and are smaller than their coastal cousins, so imo they should be split with different names, models, and weights. (Recent DNA analysis has suggested there are only two grizzly subspecies being Ursus arctos horribilis (the Grizzly Bear) and Ursus arctos middendorffi (the Kodiak Bear). So if we ever get the Kodiak I think they should be split as Costal, Inland, and Kodiak to accurately portray their population’s traits per map.

https://www.uplandjournal.com/html/features/hybridgrouse.html
Also a rare for both the spruce and ruffed could be a hybrid between the two

[steep sun]

Oh that'd be an absolutely awesome potential rare!

[grim frost]

not enough sea ducks! need a surf scoter and long tailed ducks !

[steep sun]

I was planning on adding them but I ran out of room in the original message 😭

I'll make an addition comment to add them on later, or if you want you can bulletpoint a few of the other sea ducks you'd like to see here

[steep sun]

Additional Diving Ducks:

Returning:

• Common Goldeneye

New:

• Surf Scoter
• White-Wing Scoter
• Bufflehead
• Long-Tailed Duck
• Barrow's Goldeneye
• Lesser Scaup
• Greater Scaup
• Hooded Merganser
• Common Merganser

[fast swift]

is there something in particular that causes all the waterfowl up there to look like aliens

[steep sun]

Im not sure but that's a valid question, the ducks up there look wierd as hell by and large

[buoyant pewter]

Not just the ducks, the loons are funky too. Don’t get me started on the auklets those things look ridiculous lol (photo is the pacific loon)

[supple sapphire]

This could go to off topic but wait until you hear about the musk duck

(Though they don’t live in the USA)

[steep sun]

I have altered the list again to include another highly unique arboreal animal in the form of the northern flying squirrel, which is the only far northern latitude flying squirrel in North America

[fast swift]

that is a spaceship

[steep sun]

it does unironically look like a spaceship

[undone flame]

Since harleqs are on the roster id love a remodel for them 🙏

[supple sapphire]

Funny thing is that I have that exact image on the top of my sliding door

(First image)

[undone flame]

That's fire ngl

[fast swift]

Peak male decor 😭