Red deer re class

[waxen nimbus]

Can red deer be moved up to a class 7 you can hunt them with the 300 in classic ethically why not call of rhe wild

[rich obsidian]

Or make the .300 magnum class 5-9 so we can use it on all the animals its used for irl.

Mule deer and bighorn sheep are often shot at 300 yards plus and the .300 is the most common caliber used for these animals

[pliant orbit]

This is really the answer. There is a considerable size difference between Red Deer and Elk.

[median siren]

300 AR is a "grind imba rifle". Devs will never do it to 5-9 class. Because after it all 30.06, 308, 7mm rifles will stop to sell. Comparison with classic not very right. Because classic is about hunt not about endless shooting.

[red pivot]

Idk, irl from what I’ve heard Red Deer are about as tough as elk, and being an Elk hunter, I know they’re tough as nails.

[pliant orbit]

"Toughness" aside, there's a clear difference in body size. Their species classes make sense, the .300 just needs to be made ethical for class 5 and up.

[brisk nexus]

Maybe but having deer with a roughly 500lbs max weight difference in the same class would be kinda funky

[red pivot]

Well, seeing are red deer irl can weigh up to 500kg (speaking of the Carpathian subspecies) and Central European Red Deer have been recorded weighing upwards of 300kg, I don’t think it would be that big of a stretch. Plus, Elk (alongside other very tough animals like Gemsbok) should be in Class 8.

[brisk nexus]

The Carpathian isn’t the subspecies represented in game as it’s found in Romania, Slovakia, Poland, Ukraine, and Hungary. For the Central European (which would be on Hirsch) it’s still a over 400lb difference

[brisk nexus]

And if elk are moved to class 8 moose should be moved to class 9

[lost plinth]

It is a massive stretch. CotW already over exaggerates animal sizes, especially for red deer. Truly wild red deer rarely reach 250+ kgs in any region except for the rarest, most impressive trophy stags. Most of the species sit around the 80–150 kg mark.

Domestic red stags often sit around 200—300 kgs but my family have many older stags (red x wapiti) sitting around the low 300’s on the farm. I’m guessing these domestic examples are where EW get the majority of their weight estimates for the game, they certainly are not representative of wild red deer in my experience.

I would say some stags may reach 300+ kgs on extensively managed game reserves or private properties but these properties in both Europe and NZ have seen significant admixture with domestic red deer over several centuries to reach these sizes and many are of the large stags are very recently released (anyone who says otherwise is a damn liar 😂).

400+ kg red deer I have never heard of, even amongst the largest Pannonian and Maral subspecies.

I’ve taken more red deer with .222 and .243 than any other calibres, shifting them into the same category as wapiti is going way overboard imo.

[tight timber]

Source: From the book titled ‘A Guide to the Deer of the World’ by Charles Smith-Jones.

The table contains data on the weight of each red deer subspecies.

[brittle osprey]

I personally think that the 300 could be classes 4-9 as I have shot blacktail deer with it irl

[woeful junco]

Make the 300 class 6-9