Animals in new map

[unborn shard]

Sadly I don't know much about wildlife in Scotland however here are some animals I would like to see, Red Deer (confirmed), Roe Deer, Fallow Deer and Sika Deer would be the deer on the map and there would be the European Badger (Class 2), Pine Marten (Class 2) and Scottish Wildcat (Class 3 or 4), maybe Golden Eagles could be a bird maybe Class 3 or 4 but I don't really know.

There would be more but I am just not good with small animals

[faint niche]

#1303283007381307412 Just because we have Bengal Tigers does not mean we will suddenly get species like Eagles as huntable species, plus Scotland is home to a variety of gamebirds like pheasant, grey partridge, red grouse (a species of ptarmigan native to the UK) and woodcock to name a few

[tender shale]

Well, Scottish Wildcats would definitely not be class 3 or 4…they’re only about 10-15 pounds on the high end. Also Golden Eagles are a NO GO.

[viscid python]

Isn’t it illegal to hunt badger in the UK?

[faint niche]

There is Badger Culling but no new licenses have been issued in the last few years, the reason is apparently to control the spread of bovine tuberculosis

[rotund crystal]

The argument “well it’s a protected species” was killed off when sundar was released

Everything is on the table now

[desert sundial]

All waited an African map I think. YouTube teaser has more such comments.

[faint niche]

I still believe that species that can be legally hunted should not only take priority but also make up over 75% of the species roster for most potential reserve settings with some protected species, its what I think Askiy Ridge did a bit better then Sundar considering the only protected species present are Woodland Caribou and I will count wood bison since in real life they can only really be hunted in one part of Alberta and even the First Nations have to get a tag for that herd

[mighty lagoon]

I wouldn't say "everything" is now on the table. EW did state they were working within some self-imposed confines in the recent Q&A. I'm still a proponent for only legally hunted game animals only, but I guess I'm okay with game animals that are now protected but that may have been traditionally hunted in the past i.e. tigers. Eagles and other birds of prey however have never been considered "game" animals so I would absolutely hate to see them or other such species in-game.

[lilac perch]

I had the feeling Sundar was taken better then askiy no? At least for me definitely

[mighty lagoon]

I'm not so sure, I was expecting some backlash but Askiy seems to be quite popular with the community despite many being sick of North American maps and minimal new or unique species, even I was surprised how much I liked it. It's strange that I've seen so many people unhappy with a potential UK map despite Askiy's popularity. Sundarpatan is also very popular within the community, I'm personally not a fan but I never saw any negative comments.

There were many that were disappointed Askiy Ridge wasn't Whiterime Ridge but that subsided fairly soon.

[oblique token]

My Prediction:

• Species

  • Red Deer ( class 6 ) --> Remaster
  • Wild Boar ( class 5 ) --> Remaster
  • Roe Deer ( class 3 ) --> Remaster
  • Red Fox ( class 2 )
  • European Rabbit ( class 1 )
  • Red-Legged Partridge ( class 1 ) --> New
  • Red Grouse ( class 1 ) --> New
  • Ring-Necked Pheasant ( class 1 )
  • Eurasian Woodcock ( class 1 ) --> New
  • Common Snipe ( class 1 ) --> New
  • Common-Wood Pigeon ( class 1 ) --> New
  • Mallard ( class 1 )
  • Eurasian Teal ( class 1 )
  • Northern Shoveler ( class 1 ) --> New
  • Eurasian Wigeon ( class 1 )
  • Common Pochard ( class 1 ) --> New
  • Pink-Footed Goose ( class 1 ) --> New
  • Greylag Goose ( class 1 )

• Great One

  • Roe Deer

[rotund crystal]

I was definitely one of the ones who were disappointed(still am to a degree) but there’s enough new content that redeems it in that way(wood ducks, dusky grouse, beavers, some really needed remodels, in the end it was worth it)

[hearty nebula]

Im not particularly happy with any part of this map yet, the roe deer remodel is the best thing for my interests

I'm just HOPING we get a .275 Rigby or 7x57mm stalking rifle covering 3-7. Without that i just can't see buying this map

[oblique token]

I will buy it if I am convinced by a rifle of the style you mentioned (3-7) and the small game species found in the reserve.

[hushed orchid]

Another mallard map would suck so much imo id kill for at least sika on there

[left swan]

If it’s Scotland there’ll 100% be fallow and it would be weird if they didn’t put Sika in, as there are large populations in Scotland, and it’s only on Te Awaroa

[viscid python]

Although if Scotland is really the new reserve then we should have highland ponies for transport

[hushed orchid]

Im still confused why entity mentioned wild boar

Iirc theres none in scotland

[mighty lagoon]

There are reintroduced populations all over the UK including Scotland, their distribution is patchy however.

[left swan]

You don’t recall correctly

[hushed orchid]

Well digger explained it already

[tender shale]

If it’s anywhere in the UK it would be weird if they didn’t add Muntjac and Water Deer too. Water Deer have essentially established themselves in South Ayrshire, and Muntjac have small populations in multiple regions of Scotland like Dumfries and Galloway.

[left swan]

Well Water Deer simply aren’t in Scotland, so I doubt they put them in unless it’s an English reserve

I wouldn’t be surprised if they used it as an excuse to give Muntjac and Sika another map, though.

[tender shale]

Well it would be a completely different kind of muntjac to the ones in game, being as the ones on Sundarpatan are Northern Red Muntjac while the Muntjacs found in the UK are Reeves Muntjac.

Also, on the topic of Water Deer, it wouldn’t be hard to say that someone introduced them to wherever the reserve is set (seeing as I doubt we’d get 2 reserves set in the UK). They’re all over Central, Eastern, and many parts of Northern England, and are expanding their range, much like the Muntjac.

[left swan]

This is a map of the distribution of Water Deer in the UK.
As you can see, they’re almost exclusively found in Norfolk and Suffolk in the South East of England. Which is why I don’t think that they would put them on a Scotland map. However, I do still think that if they decided to make it a wider UK map, instead of specifying it as Scotland, it would be a great option.

[torn lava]

I think the new reserve will be similar to SP. The only difference is we're likely to see more furbearers, upland birds, some med-lrg game but not many. Though as much as I wish for no waterfowl at all, I can see 2-3 being included here. My reasoning is SP was released at the end of the year & had a great concept but failed in alot of ways. I'm sure EW reflected on the reviews in general to take another jab at it. Also burrows is mentioned and based on the other feedback requests for missing furbearers & upland birds from the US & EU I'm thinking it'll be applied here. But instead of exclusively being small game like SP their applying med-lrg game to it as well. So I'm thinking 7-furbearers/varmints, 7-Upland Birds, 3-Med to Lrg Game, & 2-waterfowl is my guess. If we get a new rifle exclusive, I hope its also a 3-7. I dont want to see another shotgun or semi-auto for awhile.

I could be way off base here but that's the hunch I have. However I'm fairly certain if we have burrows Badgers are finally coming to the game. If not I'll be deeply disappointed.

[ocean yacht]

Badgers have setts

[left swan]

Those are some very big differences tbf. It will definitely differ in the landscape. It will definitely be much less flat with vast heaths and mountains.

[unborn shard]

Setts and Burrows are very similar so the European Badger will most likely come to the game

[ocean estuary]

Could we get Wood Pigeons?

[torn lava]

I'm referring to map size & game focus in that regard not the terrain layout. EW released SP at the end of the year as a test. I have a hunch the new reserve will also be a smaller reserve with a specific GAME focus in mind. I am also hoping EW is going to keep their momentum going with adding several new species & reworks as well. I would be quite surprised if they released another full-sized map. Now dont get the wrong idea its not a bad thing if it is, it just means EW is kicking bk in gear again. My only fear is if EW goes bk to their bad habit of a few new species & repeat the same species over & over again. Ppl are getting bored of that very quickly on multiple forums, & I dont blame them. With that said if Burrows means what I'm hoping it means this will add new mechanics, behaviors, & several new species that are missing from the US & EU. This also ties into Africa as well. So I am excited & terrified for the new feature.

SP failed in alot of ways & I want to believe it was due to an honest oversight on their part which is why I was on the fence with AR but it turned out quite well overall minus a few things. However, based on this year alone I am seeing a shift for the better in general. Alot of feedback & requests are being answered this year & that is a huge W in my book, even if I have my differences on a few things on how they were executed in-game. Overall I cant ignore the effort thus far.

[torn lava]

Badgers also co-exist with various species & reuse Burrows, Warrens, etc. US badgers are well known for it. Swift fox, Coyotes, & Prairie Dogs are a few examples in Wyoming. In the Midwest we just call them badger holes. We also refer to squirrels as tree rats etc. I dont expect terms or mentions to be the same in every region just like I dont expect animals to act the same way somewhere else. But I appreciate the input on the subject.

[torn lava]

Given the popularity & traction the "Burrow Update" post got & the mention EW made with the trailer its looking like it & I truly hope thats the case bc I cant recall how many posts were made requesting Badgers & Wolverines let alone the many mentions over the years in multiple thread topics. In any case if EW is finally releasing Badgers, I will be happy if they portrayed them well.

[torn lava]

My Scotland Prediction

Class: 1
• Red Grouse
• Black Grouse
• Capercaillie
• Red-Legged Partridge
• Grey Partridge
• Scottish Ptarmigan (sub species to Rock Ptarmigan)
• Ringneck Pheasant
• Woodcock
• Moorhen
• Coot
• Brown Hare
• Mountain Hare

Class: 2
• Red Fox
• European Badger
• Eurasian Beaver (Not likely but a big maybe)

Class: 3
• Roe Deer

Class: 4
• Fallow Deer
• Sika Deer

Class: 5
• Feral Pig

Class: 6
• Red Deer

As @oblique token mentioned in his prediction I wouldn't be surprised to see Feral Pigs in the roster. Eurasian Beaver is a very big long shot but EW does tend to bend a few rules from time to time as we all already know. But based on my findings our lists are similar. Waterfowl wise if EW does have them I really hope its not more ducks & geese. It would be nice to see cranes & rails added for a change.

[oblique token]

The wild boar will also be present on the map; we know this because it received a rework, and following that, we know that the species that will be map are wild boar, red deer, and roe deer.

[oblique token]

I hope they add the woodcock and although it's very unlikely, I wish they would add wood pigeons.

[left swan]

It’s confirmed to be a full sized map

[oblique token]

Interestingly, the red grouse is a subspecies of the willow ptarmigan.

• Willow (Lagopus lagopus)
• Rock (Lagopus muta)
• Red (Lagopus lagopus scotica)

[torn lava]

I wasn't aware they were reworked good to know. Wood pigeons would be a cool change as well but I full heatedly agree with yea on adding rails & cranes. I dont typically hunt waterfowl but growing up we did hunt rails & cranes. It was a blast.

[oblique token]

I don't know about cranes, but they could add Eurasian Coots.

[mighty lagoon]

Golden plover would be cool, fastest gamebird in the UK

[torn lava]

Cranes I'd expect in a US release though if rails get added I can hope to see them eventually in a US release as well. Honestly its 1 reason I want EW to release WY at some point along with other Upland Birds & Furbearer species.

[left swan]

Imo it would be really disappointing if we don’t get at least one of woodcocks, snipes, moorhens and coots. All very common and unique game birds in Scotland and also in England. Would be a missed opportunity if we see the same ducks and geese.

[mighty lagoon]

Eurasian coots and common moorhens are still hunted in the UK too so would also work.

[oblique token]

And it will be even more disappointing if the red grouse and the red-legged partridge are not found, as they are the two main species of driven hunts.

[torn lava]

Thats why I listed them bc in most of my findings rails are pretty popular & as @left swan mentioned it would be a missed oppertunity. I'll be honest I'm not really thrilled to see the same ole ducks n geese when theirs other birds to consider.

[torn lava]

I 2nd that

[oblique token]

We hope that EW will only repeat big game species and give us at least 8-9 new bird species.
This map looks like a Revontuli 2.0

[torn lava]

I'm not unfair despite my hatred for ducks & geese. Those guys should get various species to pursue ofc. But EW needs to expand to other waterfowl species that chirp instead of honking & quacking 😅. But Upland Bird wise both EU & US are missing quite a few esp. Grouse.

[oblique token]

Absolutely, I think this map should be a turning point and pave the way for more species of ducks and upland birds.

Do not repeats the 5 species of ducks that were added with revontuli in the rest of the maps.

[mighty lagoon]

NEM was definitely a miss without ruffed grouse or woodcock, species which I always thought are pretty iconic to New England.

[oblique token]

Although I have the feeling that they will repeat the 5 species of ducks, the geese, then the big game species, the black grouse pheasant and the European rabbit or hare, and the only new species will be the Red Grouse and little else.

If this were to happen, which I hope it doesn't, it would be a huge missed opportunity and it would go from being a map that could be better than Revontuli to one that is worse than NEM.

[torn lava]

Yea that was getting pretty bad. I mainly want to see the remaining Furbearers & Upland Birds added from EU, US, & ofc Africa as I feel they get ignored in alot of cases. Though Africa is another topic all together but for me I only want a few out of the many requests 😅

[oblique token]

I just hope they don't repeat 90% of the species on this map and that they take the community into account.

[torn lava]

I'll still be happy with black grouse here if the reserve layout is done well bc I'm really not a fan of SP.

[oblique token]

I honestly prefer other species of land birds such as the red-legged partridge, woodcock, etc. I think the birds of revontuli should stop being repeated, to be honest.

[still fulcrum]

General licence for birds - GL01/2025 - To kill or take certain birds for the conservation of wild birds
Source: nature.scot

[torn lava]

Thats more than fair. I know other forums have been saying the same thing & they're getting annoyed saying EW needs something new instead of rinse & repeating. I dont blame them & unfortunately EW really didn't do the US reserves justice an its alot of the same GAME rather than adding new species that reside there. EU has the same issue unfortunately.

[oblique token]

Anyway, there will probably be a trailer this Tuesday and some of the species and the total number of species on the map will be confirmed.

[still fulcrum]

Ruddy Duck (Oxyura jamaicensis)

It is considered a highly invasive species, prompting many countries to initiate culling projects to eradicate it from the native ecosystem. (Source: Wikipedia)

[torn lava]

🤣 The wording almost makes it sound like a rally to make them extinct, but I get it alot of various species cause alot of damage & threatens other wildlife if left unchecked.

[still fulcrum]

The map shows three main biomes:
• Mountains (brown)
• Grasslands/Shrublands (light green)
• Forests (dark green)

[torn lava]

If EW can get out of that habit it'll be great. At the very least I can vouch for EW returning the staple species that are unavoidable within reason but the majority should be new or species that currently only have 1 location.

[torn lava]

I'm expecting it to be a beautiful layout given the geography & lets be honest Celtic & Norse lands are gorgeous.

[still fulcrum]

Because hybridization with the invasive species in Europe poses a significant threat to the native white-headed duck (Endangered).

[still fulcrum]

Many grouse, partridges, and quails are absent from both North American and European reserves.

[torn lava]

Yea 😮‍💨 thats pretty much what I've been raving about for awhile with the US locations along with Furbearers. Since the EU reserves have the same issue as the US with the overuse of repeats instead of adding new species. Again staple species that are unavoidable or rather necessary I get in moderation.

[still fulcrum]

The Scotland Map will be Revontuli Coast 2.0 with only 6 or 7 big games and many small games.

[torn lava]

I'm not saying its a bad thing if it is. Its only a bad thing if EW carries 90% of the same species over with hardly any new ones. I'm usually not 1 to agree when it comes to waterfowl but rails should be a unique release here & ofc its well known Upland Birds.

[still fulcrum]

Imagine all the small predators in the Scotland map. I would be very happy! Of course, with good distribution according to their preferred habitats and a minimum viable population.

[torn lava]

I'd be ecstatic if EW added quite a few of them but its shacky given alot of them are protected. N yes I'm aware EW bends the rules but they can only push it so far before it goes too far ya know. I will say this if Badgers dont get added on this one esp. After mentioning burrows ppl will lose it 😅

But no I seen alot these when I was putting the list together just to find a few were still huntable while the rest are heavily protected.

[still fulcrum]

The European rabbit has burrows; I don’t see why that would be difficult to add. If they don’t include them, it probably means the game is focused and designed for grinding in the water areas. With the feeders, things have changed a bit.

[still fulcrum]

Some I want them as Critters.

[inner venture]

They actually aren’t, they were recently reassessed and were found to be their own species

[torn lava]

I dont much care for the Wildcat bc to me its just a feral housecat & nothing about it screams at me that I want to hunt it. Pole cats to me are basically Ferrets and I dont have any interest in them either. Martens, Mink, Red Fox, European Badger, & if EW pushed it the Eurasian Beaver. However on this release I am Expecting Hares. Idk if anyone else feels the same way I do but a reserve w/o a hare or rabbit in it feels very strange & off putting to me.

[toxic fulcrum]

I completely agree with the part about rabbits, not having them often makes reserves feel kinda lifeless

I’m not big on wildcat either but it’d be kinda remiss to not have them on a scottish reserve

[mighty lagoon]

Especially when you find hare carcasses at small predator feed zones. Emerald coast needs European rabbits and Medved needs mountain hare I’ve always thought.

[torn lava]

With AR I had really high hopes we would've had Canadian Lynx & Snow Hares. But sadly we did not and we didnt get another grizzly location either. So I do hope EW doesnt miss the oppertunities that are presented with this release.

[torn lava]

I'm glad I'm not alone, I was starting to wonder if I was the odd one out that enjoys hunting them. As for the Wildcats I can see EW mentioning them like how Savanna did with Black Rhinos but I cant justify or see them being a huntable option as I feel it would slightly be for not when theirs other species to be considered. But then again EW could easily cook up a plot like they did with Tigers & Snow leopards to later justify having them huntable.

With this location however I do feel that the Upland Birds, Rails, & Furbearers are highly important aside from the obvious Med-Lrg game we already know in the EU territories.

[still fulcrum]

I don’t think EW would add wildcats to a Scotland map because the population in Scotland is critically endangered.

[torn lava]

I would normally agree however EW has broken that rule already so its a wildcard.

[still fulcrum]

In Bulgaria, it was historically famous to hunt the European wildcat. The world record wildcat (fur) - 82.99 points CIC - belongs to Bulgaria too.

[toxic fulcrum]

My Predicitions/Wislist

Class 1
Mallard
Pochard
Pink Footed Goose
Magpie
Red Legged Partridge
Pheasant
Capercaillie
Red Grouse
Woodcock
Brown Hare
Pine Marten

Class 2
Scottish Wildcat
Red Fox
European Badger

Class 3
Roe Deer
Chinese Water Deer
Muntjac

Class 4
Sika Deer
Saoy Sheep
Fallow Deer

Class 5
Feral Pigs

Class 6
Red Deer

Ones in italics are the ones I least expect

[still fulcrum]

I’m not sure if EW will add wild boar or feral pigs. In Scotland, they’re classified as ‘feral pigs’ by NatureScot (part of the Scottish Government) because these animals originate from a mix of wild boar and domestic pigs and therefore aren’t native to Scotland. They are believed to come from escapees from private collections and farms, as well as from illegal releases.”

[left swan]

They’ve remodelled wild boar, so it’s more than likely that they’re getting added. They’ll probably be seen as pests like the Feral Pigs on Emerald Coast.

[still fulcrum]

I think that EW won’t create a hybrid species of wild boar and domestic pig. Same case for the hybrid Sika/Red Deer. Two hybrid species in the Scotland map would be really cool.

[torn lava]

Would be interesting but I dont think EW would go that far even if they were desperate. Sub-species we can confirm are possibilities but not always guaranteed. But I will agree that Ferals is likely set n stone & I'd be shocked if they're not. So we all pretty much agree that the Red Grouse, Red-Legged Partridge, Woodcock, EU Badger, & Brown Hare should be here. I would list others but these seem to be the prized gems here aside from Roe Deer that I know many have been heavily requesting & honestly should given its an original base game species.

[ocean estuary]

The woodcock better be there, I need that man for my lodge

[torn lava]

I'll admit I despise waterfowl (Ducks & Geese) but I always have been wanting EW to add Rails & Cranes. They taste amazing & are a blast to hunt.

[left swan]

Hopefully we see them one day, but they’re highly illegal to hunt in Scotland, and yes, I do know that they have added species in the game such as Tigers which are illegal to hunt, but I do believe that there is a line between ‘fun new animal’ and ‘highly illegal to hunt animal’ which the cranes do cross.

[torn lava]

Sry for the late reply. I never doubted they were hunted or could be fun to hunt but this is another species thats a big maybe given their status. Badgers are as well but they've been heavily requested for a long time where this feral housecat hasn't. But I cant argue that they are iconic to Scotland so its possible. I also wont argue having a multi-mount with the Wildcat & Badger in my Predator Lodge 😅. Which brings up another ? if we will get a bigger lodge soon. Between all the predators thus far I'm running out of room for more multi-mounts.

[ocean estuary]

I think the most likely new animals would be: European Badger, Woodcock, Some ducks, Maybe Red grouse and possible snipe

[left swan]

Hopefully one of pine marten, polecat etc. or a wildcat and that would be great

[torn lava]

I'm implying for a US addition for cranes. Though if woodcocks or any rail is added here I look fwd to them being added to a US reserve. I know I've heavily been pushing Wyoming & thats for multiple reasons but my core reason is to present a fair # of Grouse, Furbearers, n Varmints to be added along with a Burrow Update as a new feature for strategy & behaviors. (However if done well here it will be a big deal). Once over I also really want Elk to get reworked to boot. With Wolves getting touched up I'm getting excited with the possibility of my Dream US reserve. Ofc EW has to step up & give us horses or the Frontier wont feel complete.

[ocean estuary]

I fear pine Marten is pretty unlikely as well as wild cats and red squirrels. All of them are protected in Scotland and the wild cats are critically endangered.

Will we get the reveal tomorrow?

[torn lava]

I'd be surprised if we see a weasel, but then again I could see a Mongoose being added down the road. If nothing else a Fisher Cat as well. Mink is a pretty safe one to go with if nothing else as a C:1 predator.

[ocean estuary]

Sorry, I mean unlikely. When will the full trailer come?

[torn lava]

😅 no worries, @oblique token thinks they'll show more Tues. But who knows.

[ocean estuary]

I hope we get some fun multimounts. The last map we only really got the beavers

[torn lava]

I was sad by that as well. I was really hoping to see a Wolf & Elk mount after the rework & new sub-species.

[ocean estuary]

I was surprised we got Scotland as the new map. No hate for a Scottish map, but considering the last map had mostly remastered animals, I thought we would get a pretty different one to end the year. Maybe like Asia, Africa, Texas Hunting reserve. Having another map was mostly remastered animals it seems does seem a bit odd of a choice.

[left swan]

I feel like they’re going through a process of perfecting the core species of the game, NA with Askiy and Europe with Scotland. So next year in June I’d presume they’d add a more diverse and different map like an Africa 2.0 or a Mongolian map.

[toxic fulcrum]

I’m mainly a small game hunter but I’m pretty disappointed Scotland was picked. If EW wanted to a European revamp I would’ve preferred either Romania or France so we could’ve gotten remodels and new medium game

[ocean estuary]

Yeah I agree. No problem with that at all, I think its nice they are going back to add details to animals that needed an update. Just ashame that its been over a year since we had a more exotic or unusal setting like Sundapartan was. Introducing tigers and Leopards and then going back to Remaster animals was just a bit off imo, but again I am excited to see what a Scottish map involves.

[left swan]

I see where you’re coming from, but although it may seem stale, going back and remastering species is probably the most crucial thing to encourage new players.

[tender shale]

We already know that remodels are coming, and we could get a good amount of both small and medium game with a Scottish map.

[ocean estuary]

Scotland will be mostly small game I think. Most game there are ducks and birds apart from the deer

[toxic fulcrum]

Yeah they only new medium game we could reasonably get are water deer, muntjac, and maybe some feral animals

[torn lava]

I agree a new unique location would've been ideal but EW cant release reserves like that too often either. But I will agree that alot of Species have been way past due for TLC & although I'm not a fan of G1's I do enjoy the reworks they get esp. when new animations and behaviors are included.

[ocean estuary]

Yeah the issue is they kind of done most of the reserves now. They done Africa, Aus and India. They can do they again like a Outback map with Red Kangaroos, Emus or a Africa map with Hippos and Leopards. However, I think they trying to update the core game and make sure all animals are looking good, which is also fine. They say they have a lot of cool ideas, which I am excited to see

[torn lava]

If they get things tidied up those new locations ppl have heavily requested will likely turn out outstanding over only being partly polished which I'm very happy to see EW do after all this time. I can only hope they keep the momentum going. Although a big thing I care about is the narrative & I'm really hoping its not like Rev, SP, or AR in that regard. I truly want them to go bk to their roots with depth & character like the base game 1st yr reserves were.

[ocean estuary]

Yeah 100%! Ew has always released great maps, So I am excited for a scottish map, I hope they do have some cool new animals to join the returning ones!

[still fulcrum]

And bustards

[limber steeple]

My prediction

Scottish Highlands map
New
Pine Marten
European Badger
American Mink
Red Grouse
maybe Woodcock

Returning
Red Deer (Remodel + New GO variations + new Rares )
Wild Boar (Remodel + GO )
Sika Deer (Remodel)
Roe Deer (Remodel )
Feral Goat
Capercallie
Blackgrouse
Red Fox (burrow system applied)
Mountain Hare
Fallow Deer (Remodel)
Ring necked Pheasant (Remodel)
Euroasian Widgeon

[lilac perch]

Would be fire

[oblique token]

I would prefer these species, but that's a matter of personal taste.

• Red Deer ( class 6 ) - remaster
• Wild Boar ( class 5 ) - remaster
• Roe Deer ( class 3 ) - remaster
• Euradian Badger ( class 2 ) - New
• Red Fox ( class 2 )
• European Rabbit ( class 1 )
• Red Grouse ( class 1 ) - New
• Ring-Necked Pheasant ( class 1 )
• Eurasian Woodcock ( class 1 ) - New
• Red-Legged Partridge ( class 1 ) - New
• Common Snipe ( class 1 ) - New
• Wood Pigeon ( class 1 ) - New
• Mallard ( class 1 )
• Eurasian Wigeon ( class 1 )
• Common Pochard ( class 1 ) - New
• Eurasian Teal ( class 1 )
• Pink-Footed Goose ( class 1 ) - New

[torn lava]

😮‍💨 I should be used to it by now, but we'll likely see repeats of the waterfowl again. Based on EW's continued habit of doing so I'd be shocked if theirs 1 new Duck, Goose, & 2 Rails added with no repeats for waterfowl. But I am expecting the Upland birds to be added as I feel it should be a must. Small Game wise Hares, Fox, & the Badger are also expected. Also its not really a surprise from 4-6 to be repeats from EU. But even so the reworks will be ideal all-around.

[neat goblet]

wallabies

[rotund crystal]

….wait

That’s actually a possibility

[still fulcrum]

I hope EW doesn't add them to the Scotland map.

[still fulcrum]

I just found this out. 🐰🐰🐰
It seems the Rabbit was probably chosen to be added to the Scotland map.

[neat goblet]

they would have to be very rare tho

[tender shale]

I mean not necessarily. You could implement something into the missions like Emerald Coast did with Sambar, Rusa, and Hog Deer (if I remember correctly it had something to do with controlling their populations as they’re expanding into the map, which according to the story, they were never found in before). Could have something like that to explain why there’s Wallabies on the map.

[neat goblet]

ye

[torn lava]

Scotland Hunting Reserve is coming soon!
Tòrr nan Sithean whispers to you 🪨 Comes with a unique storyline that brings you into a vast history of Scottish hunting traditions and folklore.
5 new animals, 17 total!
Mustelids are featured for the first time, including the European Badger and American Mink. Returning are the Red Deer (Remastered), Feral Goat, and more!
New Semi-auto Shotgun
The Benehag 12G, a new semi-auto shotgun with a tubular magazine. The new shotty is versatile and can birdshot, buckshot, and slug, so it’s great for hunting all sorts of game.

[toxic fulcrum]

Only five new animals, three remasters, and another new shotgun 🫤
I imagine this will still be a very fun reserve as it looks gorgeous and the new models look great but still a little underwhelming

[still fulcrum]

Is the feral goat remodeled? I doubt it.

[oblique token]

It's disappointing considering Scotland's potential.

[toxic fulcrum]

As long as roe deer get remodeled I’m happy enough

[oblique token]

They only mentioned 3 remasters and we already know what they are: Red Deer, Roe Deer and Wild Boar.

So the animals you know from the map are, for now: red deer, wild boar, feral goat, roe deer, European badger, American mink, and mallard.

[limber steeple]

From where is the info With 3 remodels ?

[calm ruin]

Was mallard in the trailer ?

[still fulcrum]

Mallard?!!!

[oblique token]

Sorry, I made a mistake, the one you hear is the Eurasian Wigeon.

[limber steeple]

Better then mallard

[toxic fulcrum]

Unless i’m reading this wrong and it’s talking about Patch 8.4 as a separate thing

[limber steeple]

Oh yeah right 😭

[toxic fulcrum]

where did you see roe deer are getting redone?

[wispy garnet]

Personally, I think the goats' horns have changed in the video. That's just my opinion.

[still fulcrum]

5 New Animals:
American Mink
European Basger
?
?
?

3 Remastered:
Scottish Red Deer
Wild Boar
Roe Deer

9 Returning species:
Feral Goat
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?

[toxic fulcrum]

People are saying mallard but I never saw them in the trailer. I’m guessing red fox, pheasant, european hare are all coming back

[oblique token]

Another of the new animals is another mustelids.

[limber steeple]

I think we can exclude the Euro hare

Woulnt make sense without a remodel

[still fulcrum]

I don’t know if the Red Grouse is counted as a returning species.

[frozen notch]

Maybe Cougar as A Mission Exclusive Animal as a fun little nod to the “Big Cat Cryptids of the U.K.”

[still fulcrum]

Other new mustelid?! Pine Marten!

[calm ruin]

I think Barren-ground caribou was counted as bew species when Alberta came out, even though It's a subsoecies . So the grouse would probably be treated as a new species

[toxic fulcrum]

My knowledge on mustelids is very limited, but these models look a little different to me although it could just be because it’s a different fur colour

[calm ruin]

I think these are two different mink furs

[still fulcrum]

I hope it helps you

[calm ruin]

So I have just found out beech marten is not native to UK

[still fulcrum]

Two images, they are American Minks. I do not think it is an otter.

[still fulcrum]

Pine Marten is the most famous mustelid in Scotland!

[twilit hound]

We have Fisher Cats here in New England, they are also Mustelids

I came face to face with a fisher once while hiking - they're very rare to see

[still fulcrum]

If that’s the case, another popular game bird species could not be added — for example, woodcock, snipe, grey partridge, or red-legged partridge.

[toxic fulcrum]

I almost hit one with my car while driving near Sudbury last weekend 😭

[calm ruin]

I know, I was just suprised that Scotland has only pine marten (Martes martes) with the yellow throat patch. Because in continental Europe including where I live there is also the beech marten (Martes foina) with white throat patch

[twilit hound]

Omg the Assabet Wildlife Refuge is where I saw the fisher! Geez man, we're neighbors 🫡

[still fulcrum]

I accidentally ran over a mongoose. I killed it.

[inner venture]

These are my revised predictions:

[calm ruin]

pink footed goose is too similar with goose that are already in game imho, I would replace it with shoveler duck

[wispy garnet]

Where I live, we sometimes have a weasel or a marten in the garden that spends its best nights there. I can't wait to have them in the game so that one day it will come into the garden, look through the little window overlooking our game room, and see me shooting one of those fakes of the same species. That would be so funny! 😂 But seriously, I hope they get the red ptarmigan; it looks very beautiful. But above all, I hope they get animals along the coast; otherwise, what's the point of having a coast if you don't have a life? Still, 17 species, that's cool.

[calm ruin]

Just look at this guy, it would stand out next to the other ducks we have already

[wispy garnet]

Literally, this duck is one I chose for my idea because it's just unique. It's the first time I've seen a beak like that.

[still fulcrum]

I see Red Deer many times in the trailer video. Will there be more variants of the Great One Red Deer? I think yes

[mighty lagoon]

“In this reserve, you will find a roster of 17 animals with diverse classifications - some remastered classics, others incredibly fast, and some where you might have to look twice to make sure you saw what you think you saw. These animals will challenge your hunting skills, so if you have a hunting dog, it will be invaluable as a companion.”

Could this be a reference to some of the new species? Incredibly fast makes me think of snipe or woodcock, especially if a dog is required to hunt them.

[wispy garnet]

And the one you need to see a second time to be sure of what you saw, it might be a Munjac, these animals have a particular physique.

[mighty lagoon]

That would make sense, speed could also be referring to golden plover which are the fastest game bird in the UK. But woodcock / snipe and muntjac would be good fits I’d think.

[still fulcrum]

English Setter

[torn lava]

I dont think it will be another Red Deer G1 variant. If anything I can see Roe or Boar being the G1 choice however given the buzz I keep hearing with EW having a pattern to there G1 releases they predict it'll be a small game G1. I hope not since both Roe & Boar were sorely needed to get TLC. Now I'm not against a G1 Hare since it would be a guaranteed rework. As I've mentioned idrc for G1's in general but I do look fwd to the reworks in general that comes with them. I will be greatly disappointed to see Mallards again the Shovel nose....ok fair but I agree with @oblique tokenthat only 5 new species doesn't quite guarantee the species that should be here. 17 total leaves room for 2 additions down the road but still. Red Grouse, Red-Legged Partridge, EU Badger, & Mink (although the mink can be bk filled to the US finally). To me that leaves Woodcock or another Rail to be considered. I hope to all the gods its not another duck or goose again.

[still fulcrum]

Speaking of Red Grouse, I count it as a returning species because EW already has it in RC, and the work is basically done.

[torn lava]

? your not referring to the rock ptarmigan

[still fulcrum]

Rock Ptarmigan? In COTW, the Red Grouse is a plumage variation of the Willow Grouse.

[mighty lagoon]

Red grouse and willow ptarmigan, while related, are now considered seperate species.

[torn lava]

I'm thinking the scottish ptarmigan thats my bad but photo images side by side the red grouse looks closer to the rock than the willow. Not saying your wrong bc your probably right but visually they dont look close.

[dusty sleet]

Doubt it’s the hare there’s only 3 remodels and they’re confirmed to be the boar, red deer, and roe deer. I’d be shocked if they made a great one European hare without remodeling the standard one.

[still fulcrum]

I hope it’s not again.

[dusty sleet]

Bit of a shame though the hare could desperately use a remodel

[torn lava]

I doubt it as well I'm just sharing what I've been hearing. I personally would like Roe to get the honors. But I do expect Hare to be here along with several Upland Birds. Again waterfowl I'd prefer Rails over ducks n geese. But if we did get 1 new duck I could see a shovel nose out of the bunch. However I have no clue what ducks or geese are here since I never bothered to look. But I agree that it would open more doors if we do see at least 1 Rail added in-game. If we got a Rail to go with the badger & mink this would be a W for me.

[still fulcrum]

The Great One Hare?! I hope not

[torn lava]

at least assuming were right about the Game Roster in a general sense. But I'm praying the story has depth. I'd be very upset if the story is identical to Rev & SP.

[left swan]

My prediction

Class 6:

Red Deer (Remastered)

Class 5:

Wild Boar (Remastered

Class 4:

Sika Deer

Class 3:

Roe Deer (Remastered)
Feral Goat

Class 2:

European Badger (New)
Red Fox

Class 1:

American Mink (New)
Pine Marten (New)
Woodcock (New)
Red Grouse (New)
Black Grouse
Western Capercaille
Euro Rabbit
Gadwall
Greylag Goose
Tufted Duck

[oblique token]

• Expectation:

  • Red Deer ( class 6 )
  • Wild Boar ( class 5 )
  • Feral Goat ( class 3 )
  • Roe Deer ( class 3 )
  • European Badger ( class 2 ) ⭐
  • Amerian Mink ( class 2 ) ⭐
  • European Rabbit ( class 1 )
  • Red Grouse ( class 1 ) ⭐
  • Ring-Necked Pheasant ( class 1 )
  • Red-Legged Partridge ( class 1 ) ⭐
  • Eurasian Woodcock ( class 1 ) ⭐
  • Common Snipe ( class 1 ) ⭐
  • Wood Pigeon ( class 1 ) ⭐
  • Mallard ( class 1 )
  • Eurasian Wigeon ( class 1 )
  • Northern Shoveler ( class 1 ) ⭐
  • Eurasian Teal ( class 1 )
  • Pink-Footed Goose ( class 1 ) ⭐

• Reality:

  • Red Deer ( class 6 )
  • Wild Boar ( class 5 )
  • Feral Goat ( class 3 )
  • Roe Deer ( class 3 )
  • European Badger ( class 2 ) ⭐
  • Amerian Mink ( class 2 ) ⭐
  • ¿? ⭐
  • European Rabbit ( class 1 )
  • ¿? ⭐
  • ¿? ⭐
  • Ring-Necked Pheasant ( class 1 )
  • Mallard ( class 1 )
  • Eurasian Wigeon ( class 1 )
  • Gadwall ( class 1 )
  • Eurasian Teal ( class 1 )
  • Canada Goose ( class 1 )
  • Greylag Goose ( class 1 )

[limber steeple]

I think you can very well change one New species to marten

Its the only musterlid that they could add cause they confirmend there wint be otters

[left swan]

Could still be a stoat or ferret tbf

[oblique token]

They said that one of the three new species yet to be revealed is a mustelid.

[mighty lagoon]

Really? Thats kind of disappointing. I’d rather another new bird species honestly.

[lilac perch]

Yeah they have

[still fulcrum]

It must be the pine marten because it is the most famous among the mustelids in Scotland. Can it climb trees in COTW?

[mighty lagoon]

I feel American mink and European badger was enough for one map, mustelids (badgers aside) aren’t that interesting to hunt.

[still fulcrum]

If that’s the case, the new ones would be the red grouse (copy and paste from Willow grouse) and a mustelid. Which one would be the third? I’m not completely convinced by this Scotland Reserve.

[mighty lagoon]

Looking at the trailer EW have nailed the map, it’s always species selection that lets everyone down. I would have gone for 18–19 species for a Scottish reserve if it was going to be mostly small game anyway.

[wispy garnet]

I'm convinced by the scenery.

Less so by the animals, especially since two species of mustelid is enough for now.

[oblique token]

I will pray that it is the woodcock and not some other duck or goose.

[lilac perch]

Well if they would do/wouldve done muntjac and water deer that would've been fire

[still fulcrum]

Stoat? 🤔

[mighty lagoon]

Nobody really shoots stoats or weasels, it’s way easier to trap them due to their size.

[limber steeple]

Also what caliber would you use ? Nerf darts ?

[still fulcrum]

Pine Marten or Otter

Pine Marten in Scotland

[limber steeple]

There wont be otter thats confirmend

[mighty lagoon]

It’s all but confirmed we’re getting pine marten lol

[still fulcrum]

Otter in Scotland

[limber steeple]

We wont get otter thats confirmend and i think stoats and weasels are to small

[still fulcrum]

It seems the Pine Marten will be the third mustelid.

Bye Eurasian Woodcock, Gray Partridge, Red Partridge, Snipe, Coot, moorhen…👋😭

[mighty lagoon]

Golden plover, wood pigeon, probably Soay sheep and feral goats that aren’t the variety we already have 🥲

[limber steeple]

Why woodcook now 😭

There are two new animals left

[left swan]

Surely we get either woodcock or red grouse
Or both

[still fulcrum]

Red Grouse is counted as a new species, I think.

Is it worth buying the Scotland reserve for only 5 new species out of 17 returning species? The remastered species I can enjoy hunting in Hirschfelden.

[limber steeple]

I would say yes

Way more worth it then buyinf the modern rifles or rapid hunt weapin packs

[left swan]

It will be much better than Hirschfelden naturally

[still fulcrum]

If Hirschfelden had 17 species 🔥🔥🔥

[limber steeple]

A dream that needs to come true

[still fulcrum]

We are getting the Pine Marten, will it be climbing a tree? The gray squirrel is still an option.

[mighty lagoon]

I’ll buy it for the map alone, it looks fantastic and I’ll still enjoy hunting red deer and sika in the Highlands.

If pine marten don’t interact with trees it would be even more pointless adding them instead of another more interesting bird species as functionally they won’t be any different to any other small game.

[still fulcrum]

I don’t know if the sika deer will also be added because of the limited species list.

[mighty lagoon]

My hype levels are already dangerously low and dropping rapidly, please don’t crush my dreams Cutterito…

[still fulcrum]

I’ve already had some ups and downs. Lol

Three new mustelids in a single map for the first time is very surprising. 😳

[still fulcrum]

Canada Goose and Greylag Goose? Come on. At least give us the Pink-footed Goose.

[limber steeple]

17 species ? I dont see a reason wgy sika wouldnt be one of those

[mighty lagoon]

A good mission for this reserve would be controlling mustelid populations because they have entirely decimated all the cool birds we could have seen.

[left swan]

Controlling badgers to prevent spread of TB

[still fulcrum]

I prefer Sika Deer over Returning Duck and Goose

[limber steeple]

Yeah

Sadly if they will be featured on the Map they wont get a remodel cause we will only get 3

[still fulcrum]

The third new species is hard to predict!

It is reasonable:
Red Grouse in Heathland (Highlands)
Woodcock in Woodland

Partridges (red and grey) do not live in woodland and highland areas. They prefer to live in lowlands with farmland and grassland.

[still fulcrum]

Because it has the two maps compared with those three species (three at least)

[oblique token]

Whatever the species list is, it will be disappointing; I've never been so disappointed by a species list as this one.

[oblique token]

The red-legged partridge was introduced to the Highlands to be hunted alongside the red grouse because it added difficulty to that hunt.

[mighty lagoon]

I don’t mind maps with a lack of new species honestly. As long as as they fit on the map I’m happy with them, I’d rather get repeats in a setting they are famous for, rather than a new species that is relatively unimportant in the region irl.

Scotland is famous for its deer stalking and its grouse moors, repeated red deer and upland birds should be a given.

Nobody goes to Scotland for the mustelid hunting, thats dumb as hell.

[still fulcrum]

Driven grouse shooting in COTW, when?

Is the Red Grouse a new or returning species? Is it really one of the five newly recognized species? In COTW, the Red Grouse is treated as a species based on a plumage variant of the Willow Grouse. It seems to be only a change in taxonomic treatment rather than a truly new species. I feel as if we are actually getting only four new species in the Scottish reserve.

[mighty lagoon]

Tbf we are getting three remodelled species, I’m sure this cuts into the time and budget that would go towards models for entirely new species so they have to almost be treated as such.

[still fulcrum]

That’s why EW doesn’t leave North America and Europe because there are many countries with many returning species.

[mighty lagoon]

I guess they can’t if they want to remodel all the original and base game species first. No idea how they will get on Africa 2.0 when some regions in Africa may require 15+ entirely new species.

[still fulcrum]

I’m sure EW has been working on it little by little for many months, not just six.
EW needs to remodel the Lion, the Cape Buffalo, and the Warthog. EW needs to gain a reputation.

[inner venture]

If there really are three mustelids I think the remaining new species will be red grouse and pink-footed goose

[toxic fulcrum]

Honestly I’m starting to expect we won’t be getting red grouse

Of the three new animals we haven’t seen yet, one is another mustelid, one is very speedy (i’m thinking woodcock), and one is very unique looking (chinese water deer?)

[dusty sleet]

I mean unique could also be woodcock? as far as I’m aware Chinese water deer aren’t found in Scotland so it would be weird to have em there. Red grouse are one of the faster game birds (flight speeds up to 120kmh /70mph) so speedy may be referencing them

[faint niche]

The only other mustelids in Scotland that I can think of are Pine Martens, European Otters, Polecats and Stoats

[toxic fulcrum]

i’m pretty sure EW confirmed no otters

[toxic fulcrum]

Yeah I could see that. I wouldn’t write off water deer for that though considering there’s a few reserves that are sort of a culmination of a wider area. I’d much rather red grouse and woodcock anyway so I hope you’re right

[dusty sleet]

I’m betting it’s the Martin as polecats are rare and recovering species in Scotland

[faint niche]

As far as potential deer species, besides the red deer, sika and roe deer I could maybe see Reeve's muntjac since a small population does exist there apparently

[torn lava]

I'm going to stand by that Scotland will be Upland Bird & Small game driven with the obvious Med-Lrg game (Roe, Fallow or Sika, Boar, & Red Deer). Knowing EW we'll likely see 2-3 waterfowl. EU Wigeon sounds likely, Woodcock I'm hoping they'll add since many have been requesting Waders to be added. & possibly the EU Teal. I dont see a goose being added. If in-fact its Upland/Sm Game driven over waterfowl driven, I will buy it. If its another waterfowl driven reserve like how SP & Rev are I defn. wont be buying it bc I'm tired of waterfowl reserves. Besides I want to utilize the pointer on a proper bird reserve even though its also ideal for small game.

All I know regardless is since we have Mink & Badgers it paves the road fwd for future furbearers being added in US locations at a later date. I will say it will also be huge if a rail is added as it tells me EW is finally expanding to other waterfowl thats not just ducks & geese. To me thats a big step fwd that also could lead to cranes being added in the future. As for Mink it could lead to Fisher Cats an lets not forget the American & Honey Badger for the US & Africa. I'm not too verse in African game outside of the well known roster but I'm sure theirs other Small game to consider that can/could use the burrows mechanic depending on how its applied. And I'm sure theirs other waterfowl to consider that are not just ducks & geese.

I'm not unfair I still believe waterfowl players/hunters should get their own paradise reserve with various species. But Upland bird hunters should get a reserve or 2 as well. I'll admit I'm the odd guy that has more focus on predators, furbearers, upland birds, & Elk so I'll take what I can get as we go. But we are lacking US & EU Upland birds & furbearers which is why I have a hunch given our talks thus far as well as Scotland's teaser & trailer it'll be the turning point to finally add them. Ofc I'm not expecting a US reserve next yr & honestly I hope not till other locations are considered despite how badly I want our US Grouse. But that is my thoughts for better or worse.

[faint niche]

I would personally prefer if the next few US maps we get in the distant future focused more on small game animals and birds myself. For example I could see the following being good maps that focus on smaller game animals

• A map set somewhere like Wyoming or Idaho (Montana and Nevada are also possibilities) that focuses on Upland Birds like Pheasant, Chukar and the various grouse species (And depending on the location: Quail) alongside animals like badgers, marmots and other smaller mammals
• A Florida map that is effectively similar to Revontouli with whistling ducks, doves, rails and various invasive birds plus iguanas, pythons, feral pigs, nutria, Osceola turkeys, alligators and whatever else would fit
• A Hawaiian map that has a good mix of big game and upland birds, while the islands are famous for species like Polynesian Boar, Axis Deer and Mouflon it also has a fair share of upland game like francolin, pheasants and more

[torn lava]

Yea when I did Frontier Park for Wyoming I made 2 versions for it. •1 w/ C:1-3 game & •1 w/ C:1-8. The C:1-8 is similar to Scotland if my hunch is right (but I'm not getting my hopes up till we see the full roster). But my concept was inspired by various requests in the feedback posts & I did tweak it after AR didn't have Grizzlies. SRP didn't do the Frontier justice & felt more like CO & NM than anything. I wanted EW to revisit the Frontier with Wyoming's 4 biomes that would introduce species that were missing & utilize the burrow & warren mechanics to US species that use them as well as Upland Birds we're missing that are iconic. Ofc this too would include reworks to species that need them like Grizzly, Bison, RM Elk, & esp. Coyotes. Though I did take the liberty to add a narrative, character arcs, & hopeful additions like horses & a late 1800's western pk 😅

I'd love for EW to bring it to light but.... Its only a single concept out of the many 😅 so its the luck of the draw on what EW decides to do.

In any case we're missing EU & US Game & they should get added & I think its going to start with Scotland but that has yet to be confirmed. Though if we're bringing next yr into it, we still have Japan, Africa 2.0, Canadian Arctic, & South American Amazon as the Top 4 requests that I know of to be considered b4 the US gets another Gem like (Layton & NEM)!

[still fulcrum]

The absence of red grouse in the Scottish reserve is very disappointing.

[faint niche]

We don’t know what the other new species are beyond the American Mink and European Badger yet

[still fulcrum]

We know there will be a third mustelid, and I think it will be a Pine Marten because in Scotland this species is subject to predator control.

[still fulcrum]

List of species legally huntable (100% legal) in Scotland:

Lagomorphs
• Brown Hare
• Rabbit

Partridges
• Grey Partridge
• Red-legged Partridge

Grouse
• Red Grouse
• Black Grouse
• Rock Ptarmigan

Geese
• Canada Goose
• Greylag Goose
• Pink-footed Goose

Ducks
• Mallard
• Eurasian Teal
• Gadwall
• Pintail
• Eurasian Wigeon
• Common Pochard
• Goldeneye
• Northern Shoveler
• Tufted Pochard

Rails
• Coot
• Moorhen

Waders
• Common Snipe
• Eurasian Woodcock
• Golden Plover

Pigeons
• Woodpigeon

Large Mammals
• Scottish Red Deer
• Fallow Deer
• Roe Deer
• Sika Deer
• Reeves Muntjac
• Feral Pig
• Feral Goat

[oblique token]

What scaup?

[still fulcrum]

Great Scaup or/and Lesser Scaup. I found that there isn’t any definitive information, so I don’t know which of the two species it is.

[wispy garnet]

It's true that it would be cool to have all 3 species of grouse

[dusty sleet]

From what I can see they’re both found there but lesser scaup seems to be less common than the greater scaup, I would guess that both are huntable though as neither population is under stress

[twilit hound]

did I miss something - are these just the legal small game, what about deer, boar, etc?

[still fulcrum]

What does N/A mean?

[twilit hound]

Usually N/A means Not Applicable

[still fulcrum]

I think that it means that it is protected. So I erased it from the list.

[twilit hound]

oh okay, thanks!

[still fulcrum]

Surprisingly, the White-fronted Goose (European race, not the Greenland race) is protected in Scotland but not in England.

[still fulcrum]

I already added it. There is no applicable legislation for Water Deer in Scotland. The abundance of Water Deer is in South England.

[inner venture]

Woodcock are shorebirds, not rails

[torn lava]

Typo on my part its supposed to be Waders not Rail.

[still fulcrum]

The source is the British Deer Society.
The Roe Deer deserve the “Great One” because of their popularity and abundance in the UK. It gets my vote.

[torn lava]

@inner venture was a long day n I didn't have my glasses so its possible there's more in my replies 😅 thx for the catch

[inner venture]

It would be awesome if they would add rails too tho

[torn lava]

I did mention rails in my prediction, so I likely was thinking about it when I was mentioning woodcock plus my wife was talking to me about work at the railroad, due to the topic since we have snipes or more specifically the Wilson Snipe.

[oblique token]

There is still hope that they will include the Red-legged Partridge; we know that 3 of the 5 new species are mustelids, leaving us with 2. One should be the Red Grouse, therefore the other remaining species could be either the Red-legged Partridge or the Eurasian Woodcock.

[torn lava]

Again, if EW does add them, I will give EW kudos for finally branching outside of just ducks & geese since they have had a real bad habit of repeating them across various releases over adding new ones.

[oblique token]

That would be bad, if they added a duck or goose instead of a new upland bird beyond the Red Grouse. I hope they do, it would change my opinion about the map.

[torn lava]

I agree with your assessment that its between the 2 you mentioned. As much as I want the Woodcock it's not as likely as the RL-Partridge given EW's reputation. But I wont count it out till we get confirmation. An out of the 3 mustelids the mink & badger were obvious, but out of the remaining options I'd wager its the Marten. I could be wrong but given their size & rep from the others I believe its the most likely choice.

[oblique token]

That's right, the marten is most likely the third mustelid.

[torn lava]

I defn. agree with you though that if EW doesn't have the Grouse or Partridge and adds more ducks or geese esp. repeats.....it would shake the community in a very bad way.

[oblique token]

Indeed, I just pray that it doesn't happen because I would lose all the trust I have in the development team since it seemed that little by little they were backtracking to the making subspecies and animals that the community requested, but if now they add new ducks or geese instead of the upland bird species I mentioned, it will be a disappointment for a large part of the community.

• My Prediction:
  • Red Deer ( class 6 )
  • Wild Boar ( class 5 )
  • Feral Goat ( class 3 )
  • Roe Deer ( class 3 ) - Great One
  • Red Fox ( class 2 )
  • European Badger ( class 2 ) ⭐
  • European Pine Marten ( class 1 ) ⭐
  • American Mink ( class 1 ) ⭐
  • European Rabbit ( class 1 )
  • Red Grouse ( class 1 ) ⭐
  • Red-Legged Partridge ( class 1 ) ⭐
  • Ring-Necked Pheasant ( class 1 )
  • Mallard ( class 1 )
  • Eurasian Wigeon ( class 1 )
  • Eurasian Teal ( class 1 )
  • Canada Goose ( class 1 )
  • Greylag Goose ( class 1 )

[torn lava]

I couldnt agree more. An to be fair after AR's release with 1 of our grouse here in the US its been a strong request to get more Upland Birds. I dont want to portray myself as being bias since I really want another US map to not only address our missing species but 1 that's done really well. I cant ignore that EU reserves are in the same position as sad as it is.

[oblique token]

It seems they want to disregard EU, or as if it were the least important thing to them so far. (I say all this without taking Africa into account, of course)

[torn lava]

To a degree I can see that, but the EU locations to me seem to have had more care put into them than the US in alot of ways, species aside. Africa I thought was fair till lions were added. After that I felt EW bit off more than they should have and opened a can of worms & have yet to respond to the masses. If I were EW I'd release 2 Africa locations 1 that has the Tiny 10 and other species that were not added in savanna & the 2nd with the "Africa 2.0" guys/gals in mind.

[oblique token]

"Africa 2.0" will most likely be released to coincide with the game's anniversary in 2027...

[torn lava]

That was my thought as well that it would be a 10yr anniversary release. But I still feel like they should release another reserve to tie ppl over. Like I said earlier my dream map is my Frontier Park Wyoming concept. However even if EW released it (not likely) I want EW to focus on the other top requests b4 addressing EU or the US further after Scotland.

[oblique token]

Yes, but all we can do is wait and hope that EW listens to us and fulfills our requests.

[still fulcrum]

Red-legged Partridge and Gray Partridge

[wispy garnet]

To connect to eBird, you need an account, but is it a free or paid account? Because I'm interested in those maps for my thread projects, like my French or Hawaiian map.

[torn lava]

I can't argue with you there. If the game is in-fact driven from the community EW should take note of the fine details to further achieve success. Their rogue adjustments will hurt them if we're ignored esp. when we're presenting alot of regional info. Its ironic when you think about it, that we're basically info brokers since we layout facts of each region.

[wispy garnet]

Wait, I can see the two partridges at my place.😱 I wasn't even aware.

[still fulcrum]

I have the account but I am not a subscriber.

[oblique token]

is free

[wispy garnet]

Ok thanks you🙂

[still fulcrum]

If the pine marten is confirmed, there is a possibility of reskinning the Beech Marten, and the European Polecat from the American Mink, since they are practically similar in size.

[oblique token]

@still fulcrum If you think about it, this prediction isn't so far-fetched.

[still fulcrum]

Red-legged Partridge in the Scotland Reserve before Cuatro Colinas? 😭😭😭

[oblique token]

It's the only way to get it added to the game and then to CC.

[still fulcrum]

I understand you. EW doesn’t do much backfilling. The two old maps, Hirschfelden and Layton Lakes, didn’t get any backfilling. Am I wrong? I don’t expect EW to do any backfilling.

[dusty sleet]

Forever ago they did, Hirsch got the Pheasant, while Layton got the Merriam’s turkey, not exactly significant though

[still fulcrum]

Understood. I didn’t play it when COTW was released.

[torn lava]

Yea EW did do a backfill or 2 since launch to date. Although if I'm honest I'd rather them hold off backfilling till more species are introduced. After several new additions have been added I wouldn't be apposed to the idea of a pole to what species we want filled & where. The only exceptions would be the 19 cap locations that unfortunately don't get the opportunity. But I'd hate to see species get filled right away esp. if a better candidate is added later but cant be added bc the spot(s) are already filled from the previous releases.

[still fulcrum]

Feral pigs? We know there are only ‘feral pigs’ in Scotland. Doesn’t the Scotland Reserve get the remastered Wild Boar?

[limber steeple]

My prediction

Scottish Highlands map
New
Pine Marten
European Badger
American Mink
Red Grouse
maybe Woodcock

Returning
Red Deer (Remodel + New GO variations + new Rares )
Wild Boar (Remodel + GO )
Sika Deer
Roe Deer (Remodel )
Feral Goat
Capercallie
Blackgrouse
Red Fox (burrow system applied)
Mountain Hare
Fallow Deer
Ring necked Pheasant
Euroasian Widgeon

[oblique token]

I regret to inform you that the sika deer will not be present, as otherwise they would have done a remaster, but that is not the case.

[still fulcrum]

Red Grouse is up to EW, whether it’s added as a new species or as Willow Grouse. EW got the Red Grouse wrong in RC.

[still fulcrum]

Canada Goose, Greylag Goose, Mallard, Red Fox, and Pheasant are on so many maps. It feels like EW is just flooding us with too much recycled content.

[torn lava]

Idk. I dont think we can rule it out cause his list is also plausible. EU reserves usually have Reds, Roe, Fallow, Sika, Pigs, Hares, & if I recall wigeon. Just bc it didn't get a rework doesn't mean it wont be. The other species from my findings seem legit as well. Ofc your list is also plausible except Mallards. I really dont want to believe EW would be that dumb to since ppl were furious about them being everywhere 😂 The same could be said with the Geese.

[still fulcrum]

Red Grouse can’t be bred and released into the wild like other game birds. They need very specific and harsh environmental conditions, and they require active management of suitable moorland to thrive.

[limber steeple]

I regret to inform you what i told you 😭

Sika dont have the worst Model and its just your opinion that they wont be added. But instand of saying i personally think sika wont get added to the map cause they wont get a remodel you Word it like it would be a fact. Com'on man its not that hard 💔

[torn lava]

I genuinely think (hope) that EW is going a different direction with this 1.

[oblique token]

EW's plan is that if a species found on the map needs remastering, it will receive it, and since we only have 3 (red deer, wild boar and roe deer), unfortunately we will not receive the sika deer with the Scotland map.

[still fulcrum]

Total Annual Deer Cull in Scotland

It seems there are more Sika Deer than Fallow Deer in Scotland.
If the list is limited, I would definitely choose Sika Deer over Fallow Deer.

[limber steeple]

Alr we're deadass now 💔

Judging by that lynx, whitetail, canada goose and moose should have gotton a remodel With Revontuli. They didnt get that but black bear and brown bear instand. Not just because a species wont get a remodel it doesent mean it wont be on the new map. Also Sika still Look good they aged pretty well

[torn lava]

True EW does tend to follow that logic but till we see the full roster I dont see the harm of it still being an option even if its not as likely. If I'm honest I wasn't expecting goats to be an option since its not a species I'd think of when I picture Scotland.

[still fulcrum]

The Sika Deer is an animal that has gained a strong reputation among hunters and scientists.

[still fulcrum]

At this rate, EW is selling a tourist landscape experience instead of immersive hunting and true animal diversity.

[torn lava]

@limber steeple Dont get the wrong idea he could be right that they might not be in the roster. But I'm not ruling anything out except Mallards. It could still turn out to be alot like Rev. With alot of waterfowl, some upland/small game & ofc med-lrg game 🤷‍♂️ (Again I hope not) but instead is the opposite with it being Upland/small game driven with 1 wader &/or rail & 1 returning duck. Till the reveal its anyones guess 😅

[torn lava]

Thats the dread I have with the narrative here is it'll be similar to Rev & SP. I pray to the gods its nothing like those 2 or as bad as AR's narrative.

[limber steeple]

I never denied he could be right With it. I just dislike he portrais it as a fact although its just his opnion.

If he wouldve said "i think EW is not gonna add them to the reserve cause they wont get a remodel" instand of "there wont be sika cause they wont get a remodel" i wouldnt have said anything

[still fulcrum]

I can see that every time they release a new map, it comes with recycled species (without waders or rails, for example), and it’s “snowballing” more and more.

[torn lava]

Fair. I felt I needed to put my opinion bc I get how new maps could present gems or....sadly pure disappointment 😅. I like to be optimistic till its been revealed.

[still fulcrum]

It’s important to add Sika Deer in Scotland Reserve, since they’re not native to Scotland and affect Red Deer through interspecific competition.

[torn lava]

Dont get me wrong though AR did have alot of leaps in the right direction so it does give me some encouragement that EW is getting out of there slump. Ofc Scotland will most likely be a deciding factor depending on its reveal & execution. Despite my differences w/ EW's decisions, I still acknowledge things EW did do well with. But dont think I'm going to go easy on them if something is done poorly. Even negative feedback holds weight or at least it should if its genuine.

[wispy garnet]

After the three remastered versions, this is for the update itself, right? For me, that's the case anyway, because if I remember correctly, for the last two maps they redid all the animal models that had returned, like the mountain goat, the wolf, etc... so it doesn't make sense if they don't do it for this one.

[sturdy stirrup]

feral goat model looks pretty decent tho in my opinion, so a remodel for it would be unneccesary resources

[wispy garnet]

It's true that in the presentation video they don't have any models. Yeah, great, so no models for the returning animals. But at the same time, maybe they didn't have time to make them. I don't know.

[still fulcrum]

Will it be the Soay Sheep the third new species?

[sturdy stirrup]

could be really cool, but then there are 2 goat/sheep species on a map

[still fulcrum]

I feel the Eurasian Woodcock fits better in the Scotland Reserve than the Red Partridge, since there are woodland biomes for it. Highlands would have Red Grouse and Black Grouse.

[tender shale]

Honestly I always forget that Iberia has mongooses. I generally just think of them as an African and Asian animal.

[still fulcrum]

It is not native to Iberia; it was brought to Spain by the Romans to control rodents and snakes. Hunting it is generally prohibited throughout Spain, but there are exceptions in some regions where special permits may be granted for its control.

[still fulcrum]

Reindeer in the Scotland Reserve? In the Cairngorm Mountains (Scotland), there are reindeer, but they are actually semi-domesticated (not huntable) and originally come from Sweden.
I prefer not to add them to the Scotland Reserve.

[still fulcrum]

If EW is probably adding Willow Grouse but actually referring to Red Grouse, then there would only be three new species left to add.
I predict, these would be:
• Pine Marten
• Eurasian Woodcock
• A rail species (either Coot or Moorhen)

[rotund crystal]

Unless they throw an absolute wild card and add feral highland cows….unlikely because they’re playing it safe with this map…but still possible

[still fulcrum]

Or the semi-domestic Reindeer

[rotund crystal]

That would be really cool too

[inner venture]

That would just be dumb if they added willow ptarmigan instead of red grouse because they aren’t just subspecies, rather actual distinct species. If they are going to make the distinction between the caribou subspecies which look identical then they are definitely adding the red grouse, not willow ptarmigan

[still fulcrum]

Pink-footed Goose (Anser brachyrhynchus)

[oblique token]

new shotgun and sika?!?!?!?!?!

[still fulcrum]

SIKA DEER!!! 🤩

[limber steeple]

From where do you have the pictures ? Cause the first isint a screenshot from the short/tik tok tic made

[oblique token]

I got it all from the short of TicTactical

[still fulcrum]

The remodeled Roe Deer seems very good.

[limber steeple]

Ngl the shot gun looks pretty good

Also vivi just confirmend martens

[oblique token]

https://youtube.com/shorts/MwVSv34DEo8?si=0oyl69jzCZMWRYoH

[still fulcrum]

It is just as I predicted

[still fulcrum]

the reel, the names are switched!
🫣

[oblique token]

?

[still fulcrum]

Watch the reel

[limber steeple]

The pone marten is labeld as mink and the mink is labled as marten

[oblique token]

ah lol

[still fulcrum]

I have hope about the burrow for the red fox.

[limber steeple]

Look at these furs 🥹

[still fulcrum]

EW need to add the hole in the old tree so it’s hidden for Pine Marten as Beech Marten, Genet, like a burrow for the badger and the red fox. It’s its way of escaping.

[limber steeple]

Now that i think about that, that could totally be the case. It would more or less add climbing to the game and make more use of the burrow mechanic

[still fulcrum]

And also, it could work for squirrels and their nest.

[still fulcrum]

It would be more interesting and challenging.

[dusty sleet]

How they did they get the names mixed up?

[still fulcrum]

It is probably a new bird species because it requires fast job reskinning. EW always releases a new goose or duck on each map.

[dusty sleet]

Hopefully it’s not another goose we could use more upland game

[still fulcrum]

What two new species do you think?

[dusty sleet]

I’d guessing the red grouse as one of the hints was speedy and they’re fast flying, I’m hoping woodcock for the unique hint but I’m not holding my breath for that one

[left swan]

Where were the hints?

[limber steeple]

I think woodcook are supossed to be the speedy one, theyre known to be pretty fast flying

[dusty sleet]

Way up in the convo somewhere, vivi posted them I think.

[limber steeple]

Steam article

[still fulcrum]

What is the maximum number of shells that can be loaded in this shotgun?

[left swan]

Woodcock fit either category tbf

[dusty sleet]

Red grouse can hit 70 mph woodcock top out at around 30 mph which is why I think the red grouse matches speedy better. But who knows, though it seems odd they’d leave out one of the more well known hunting experiences in Scotland (red grouse) but I really would like to see the woodcock

[oblique token]

possible 3-4 rounds

[still fulcrum]

I witnessed how a woodcock escaped; it was crazy how fast it moved between the trees.

[still fulcrum]

Flying in open terrain vs forest.

[dusty sleet]

The woodcock speed was gained from satellite tracking during migration I doubt they were hitting 30 in a dense forest, plus they also inhabit grasslands

[ocean estuary]

Wait where was the speedy flying hint?

I feel like the last 2 animals must be either - The Red Grouse or the Woodcock or both. Like Woodcock hunting is pretty famous in Scotland and we have the Stubble quail which are small. I can not shake that they may add a new duck species as there is so much water on the map though.

[dusty sleet]

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[ocean estuary]

Ah I see, I think fast could just mean the Pine Marten, Mink and Badger. As they are all elusive. I may be wrong though

[dusty sleet]

Could be but we’re still missing 2 new species so + 2 hints = speculation lol

[still fulcrum]

Returning Willow Grouse or New Red Grouse? We don't know it.

[ocean estuary]

Why not both

[still fulcrum]

Only in Scotland Red Grouse. Willow in other countries.
Red Grouse is a variation of the Willow Grouse in COTW.

[ocean estuary]

Oooooo, So red Grouse may be 1 of the missing. Question is, Woodcock or maybe a new waterfowl? I

[hushed orchid]

Id love 1 new upland and some type of new waterfowl

[dusty sleet]

They could have rock ptarmigan as a returning species, if they would have a ptarmigan at all

[calm ruin]

I would love if they included northern shoveler as a new species

[ocean estuary]

I love the birds so would be up for any new bird species. I guess next week we will find out

[still fulcrum]

Scotland is a best country for goose hunting because of the migration near the northern breeding areas. I watched some videos on YouTube — it was crazy, there were hundreds of geese.

[ocean estuary]

Barncule goose? They could be near the coast? As the map has coastline and water

[hushed orchid]

I would love barnacle geese

[still fulcrum]

With two new species, it's hard to predict.

[still fulcrum]

This species is not huntable in Scotland, I think.

[hushed orchid]

And woodland caribou arent in Alberta

[still fulcrum]

It’s difficult to predict which new species that are not huntable and already protected in Scotland will be chosen. There are many species.

[ocean estuary]

New species being the common Garden snail?

[toxic fulcrum]

I know it’s difficult with the engine but if EW didn’t add some sort of tree-dwelling to pine martens I feel like they’re a bit of a waste of a roster spot imo

[torn lava]

Well so far I'm pretty happy except the shotgun. Its pretty but not needed. But seeing the Mink, Marten, & badger act the way they did in the clip has me jumping with joy. I think after an earlier post I seen with confirmation of Sika Deer I believe its safe to acknowledge Red Deer, Roe Deer, Sika Deer, Fallow Deer, Boar, Red Fox, EU Hare, & a Quack can be expected along with Marten, Mink, & Badger. That makes 10 of the 17 & 3 of 5 new species. I'd wager @limber steeple list: #1439033502795436132 message is spot on. It would also confirm the 12ga exclusive.

Though I still think EW missed an opportunity to release a new combo gun for this release 😮‍💨

[inner venture]

I’m pretty sure there will be at least two ducks, in the teaser trailer you can hear a mallard in the background and in the reveal trailer you can hear a Eurasian wigeon in the background

[dusty sleet]

I really hope there isn’t mallards we already have them on 6 maps we don’t need em on 7

[mighty lagoon]

I still don’t think we needed both mink and pine martens, one other mustelid species alongside badgers would have been enough.

I wouldn’t be surprised if fallow deer don’t make it onto this map, they are certainly present in the Highlands, though in far smaller numbers and their habitat is much more fragmented than other lowland areas of the UK where they are widespread. I wouldn’t mind if they swapped them out for another big/medium game species but they are one of my favourite deer so I’d be happy either way.

Geese would be a better pick for this map over ducks, but it depends on what we get I guess. I was personally hoping for barnacle and/or pink-footed geese, but I wouldn’t be disappointed with a new duck species. If we are getting repeat waterfowl, I would rather just see black grouse and rock ptarmigan on another map instead.

[torn lava]

I expect the EU wigeon, however I'm fairly confident the other species are going to be upland birds. The 2 new species I think are going to either be a Red Grouse, Red Legged Partridge, Wader or a Rail. I don't see their being another Quack. It would be very disappointing if the 2 new species isn't 2 of the 4. But I would be proud of EW if its Upland Bird/Small Game Driven over a Rev. repeat. But I figured out the gate that the EU Wigeon would be here regardless.

[inner venture]

Personally I think the remaining two new species will be red grouse and pink-footed goose but one of the partridges would be great

[still fulcrum]

Are the two new species already known?

[limber steeple]

No but they are most likly Red grouse and woodcook

[still fulcrum]

It is reasonable

[torn lava]

The Red Grouse is a must. Although if it is a woodcock, I'd applaud EW for finally expanding their horizons into waders. This would bring me more hope to possibly see more of them. This ofc ties with Rails & Cranes over more Quacks & Geese. I'd welcome it for future releases.

[inner venture]

Personally I think that if they ever add rails and waders they would the “star species” of the reserve like how the mustelids are for this one

[torn lava]

I don't really see species as stars, I see them as extended opportunity for backfills where they are desperately needed & that EW is finally expanding where they have been lacking. I dont just buy reserves for the roster I also buy them bc its an extension to the story....well mostly. I consider Rev & SP as personal hunting vacations more than anything. AR I hated the narrative with her being so irresponsible and immature. Again Great concept but had very poor leadership.

Besides when EW releases new GAME I also expect them to have their own challenges & new Mechanics. True I want to see the burrows be utilized for several species both old & new however ea species should behave in their own way. Sadly I agree with waterfowl they pretty much act the same 😑 this also applies to pretty much all the deer as well.

[inner venture]

What I mean is that there is always a “star species” or main selling point for a reserve for example: roos for EC, tigers for sundarpatan, beavers for AR, etc. so I think that waders and/or rails would be that for a future reserve

[torn lava]

Though to be fair the reworks not only improve the models but I have noticed they've been receiving individuality in their behaviors even if its suttle.

[still fulcrum]

The star of the reserve is definitely the European Bagder.

[torn lava]

I get what your saying in terms of marketing but that means nothing to me. However what is important is EW should be honoring each location with the species that are iconic & or are only found at those locations.

[inner venture]

I definitely agree, but I’m just trying to make accurate predictions based on what EW has done in the past

[torn lava]

I get that & I'm not denying that, all I'm pointing out as a player that concept of exclusivity is a bad thing unless its a species that is only found there or rather is the most popular. Badgers, mink, & beavers I would expect to be backfilled or added to future locations ofc this includes woodcock if we are getting them. Red Grouse I feel like would be the star here technically. But public & community opinion will most likely say badgers are just bc it has a new mechanic & well...its a badger 😅 dont misunderstand though I am very thrilled as a furbearer/predator hunter that they finally arrived in-game but they should've been awhile back. But better late than never. But even so just bc it has mink, marten, & badgers it isn't enough to persuade me to instantly buy the reserve. If it was waterfowl driven like SP & Rev I wouldn't touch this map.

[still fulcrum]

In Scotland, wood pigeons are hunted, but so far EW hasn’t created dove or pigeon species yet. They would have a function similar to geese.

Maybe there will be “six new species”, since EW will classify the red grouse as a fixed returning species instead of a new one. I hope that’s the case.

[torn lava]

another group of game birds yet to be added along with squirrels & various varmints. So again I'm proud to see EW finally expand & they should always add 5-7 new species over repeats. Again some species that are already in-game are a must no matter what but that doesn't excuse them from not releasing GAME we dont have yet. Imho each species minimum should have 2 locations up to 3 with the exception of species that are only found there. EC & Sundar theres only 1 location for those regions however the US & EU have several. Africa we already know it was ok but not as well as it could've been. But the narrative was top form so I cant dislike it.

[torn lava]

Take my wife for ex. She's all about Mississippi (coons & gator), if Florida was released w/ coon & gators shed play both. My point is it'll vary from person to person based on what's important to them.

[sturdy stirrup]

Its just that those kind of maps; sundar and EC, need a lot of resources and work making all the new species and flora models. Maps in a semi-same region, take Hirschfelden and Salzwiesen, almost dont need any extra flora models, and can have many returning species. I think this might be a kind of ''rest'' year, where they slow down with super exotic maps with a lot of new animals. 2026 will probs be crazy if you see it like that

[still fulcrum]

And the corvids too: in Britain, they are hunted as a form of pest control.

[sturdy stirrup]

how would it be implemented tho? seems really hard, since they move around everywhere

[still fulcrum]

Usually, they are found in open areas such as grasslands and farmland.

[torn lava]

honestly crows to me would be like the quail & grouse. Plus they'd likely be in the fields as well. Anywhere from 2 - 6 in a group even though I see them from 2-50+

[sturdy stirrup]

pretty cool, and when they flee? they fly away far or just a short while just like grouse?

[still fulcrum]

They are smart. The hunting style is like the pigeons and dove hunting. It requires decoys and caller.

[torn lava]

They dont usually stray too far from there food so I could see them fly off a short distance & land or roost. However if tree roosting never gets applied I'd hope they'd perch on fences & other terrain adds that are bonded to the ground like the hay bales.

[sturdy stirrup]

that would be really cool yes

[torn lava]

I was really hoping to see Quail do it in MA (Mississippi Acres) but sadly they do not.

[still fulcrum]

I predict there will be pintails and Eurasian Wigeon in the Scotland Reserve.

[sturdy stirrup]

i just hope for some backfills

[still fulcrum]

There are bobwhite quails in MA

[torn lava]

I am as well but I really want EW to hold off for awhile till they release more species. I'd hate to see alot of species get filled and cap locations if other species get added later that would be better. Sadly the 19 cap reserves wont be expected to see more added unless EW finds a way to extend the cap with an overhaul to the population which I'd prefer since several maps often have way too many with very high spawn rates. • @still fulcrum - I know MA has quail; I was referring to them perching on fences & other terrain props that they dont sadly. Instead they scurry about & fly off /rinse repeat. Though I'd love roosting to be applied at some point. But if not them simply resting on the terrain props & fences would be enough for me as an improvement. Aside from their awareness range bc they spook way too easily from a ridiculous distance. Even if they remained that way applying the pointer should hold them till you either get too close or you use the flush command.

[still fulcrum]

I predict the other three new species:
Red Grouse
Eurasian Woodcock
Pink-footed Goose

[torn lava]

3? You mean 2 since we've confirmed mink, marten, & badgers 😅. personally I strongly believe its the Red Grouse & either a wader or rail. If EW is truly getting bk in the saddle to listen to the community (survey made that pretty clear ppl are not happy). I can see this to be most likely. Also we have yet to get an Upland Bird/Small Game Driven reserve that is opposite of Rev. Given popular opinion for those 2 groups I'd be shocked if Scotland isn't. But then again when I picture or hear Scotland thats what comes to mind is Upland bird & Small Game hunting.

However I do expect to see EU Wigeon at least I'd be even more surprised if its not or a different waterfowl.

[still fulcrum]

In my opinion, the Red Grouse is technically a returning species from the Willow Grouse (changing the name). I’ll leave the new three here and we’ll see the definitive list.

[torn lava]

Thats fair. It's anyone's guess till we see the roster. Outside of what has been confirmed.

[inner venture]

It’s not a returning species, they aren’t even subspecies, rather completely separate species: lagopus lagopus and lagopus scotica

[dusty sleet]

Do you mean willow ptarmigan? (I know they’re technically in a subfamily under grouse but I’ve never heard their common name being referred to as grouse before lol)

[faint niche]

I have read Willow Grouse being used as a name for Willow Ptarmigan

[still fulcrum]

“Willow Ptarmigan” is the common name used in North America and “Willow Grouse" is used in Europe.

The Red Grouse, also known as the moorcock, moorfowl, or moorbird.

[dusty sleet]

Ah makes sense, funny how language changes. Just another moose/elk situation then

[still fulcrum]

Same for “wapiti” in Europe and “elk” in North America. Also for “moose” in North America and “elk” in Europe. In Spanish, the “moose” is also known as “alce”.

[dusty sleet]

Eh wapiti and elk are interchangeable in America mainly because wapiti is the word for elk in the Cree and Shawnee languages (where it originated) though it definitely depends on where you are in the USA/Canada

[still fulcrum]

The words “wapiti” and “moose”, which come from the languages of North American Indigenous peoples.

[dusty sleet]

Yep that’s the Cree, Shawnee, and Abenaki, though moose was derived from their word “mos”

[hushed orchid]

Even if its an entire new species its an existing model already that EW can slap a new name on and call it a day so its nothing really new.
Or particularly exciting imo

[dusty sleet]

I’d hope they give them somewhat unique abilities if they are one of the new species, they are the fastest flying grouse after all

[still fulcrum]

Yes, and also when you have it in your lodge if you have it.

[hushed orchid]

Even then visually as cutterito just said your lodge its gonna look the exact same regardless of abilities

And what's stopping ew from slapping on the same mechanics and animations, id like something actually visually new than red grouse as much as people want them but thats just me personally

[dusty sleet]

Unfortunately there’s not a ton of options for Scotland as far as new to the game and well known irl hunting goes (that is still legal anyway) but maybe they’ll surprise us with squirrels or something, but with EWs track record I tend to doubt it

[hushed orchid]

That hasn't stopped them in recent times, woodland caribou, tigers and snowies. Heck if you even consider it the European badger, you could still add stuff even its not exactly legal if it has enough of a stable population

Just missed potential in my eyes

[dusty sleet]

Not saying it hasn’t, just that it seems that’s the trend this map is following, Martin vs polecat/otter for example and they went with the smaller (possibly more difficult to implement) Martin. So I’m guessing they’re “playing it safe” with this map is all, and with the badger taking up the “illegal slot” I doubt we will be seeing anything as crazy as the Scottish wildcat or similar.

[still fulcrum]

I hope there will be a mission involving red grouse, especially regarding the control of strongylosis in the species.

[mighty lagoon]

Pine marten are also protected in Scotland, much the same as badger. Mountain hares too as of a few weeks ago, though control permits are still issued under certain circumstances.

Not that mountain hares were confirmed for this map, they did seem the most likely candidate for a small game species though.

[dusty sleet]

True though the protected species they have confirmed thus far have stable populations in Scotland unlike the polecat. But again maybe they’ll surprise us.

[mighty lagoon]

The populations are stable and growing, but there are less than 4000 adult pine marten in Scotland. I can’t understand EWs justification for adding them when we already have American mink and they can’t guarantee they will interact with trees.

[dusty sleet]

I’d guess it’s as simple as “not endangered” and “uses the same skeleton for new thing” not saying it’s good justification mind you but that’s my guess

[mighty lagoon]

There aren’t a tonne of interesting protected species like tigers or snow leopards in Scotland worth adding.

Protected species in the UK are always going to be a small game animal as boring as that may seem.

Red grouse are the quintessential highland game animal, not including them because they aren’t new and interesting would be a bad move on EWs part.

[hushed orchid]

That was not what I was pointing out, I was saying that in recent times EW seems to have no issue with adding in species that are protected, I was pointing out as well that even if red grouse are iconic they are nothing more than the red ptarmigan with a new name visual wise anyways

[mighty lagoon]

Unpopular opinion but I would have personally preferred repeat black grouse and rock ptarmigan on this map over pine marten and other protected species.

If we wanted variety I think Soay sheep and visually distinct British feral goats would have been better picks.

[dusty sleet]

Tbf that’s how animal species work sometimes lol

[still fulcrum]

The Red Grouse has brown flight feathers and never develops white plumage on the upperparts. The Red Grouse is never white in winter, and in all Willow Grouse, the adult plumage is consistently more rufous (red-orange color) than the corresponding plumages of Rock ptarmigans.

[dusty sleet]

Whats really gonna irritate me is if there’s mallards on the roster, we do not need another map with them imo (I’d die laughing if that’s the next G1 though)

[hushed orchid]

Unless they add some seasonal mechanic which i doubt will happen, I dont see the reason for the addition besides them being iconic, its still just a always red ptarmigan at the end of the day

Im aware of them being different species but at the same time its just too similar and something that will feel lazily done

[mighty lagoon]

Tigers introduced some interesting new mechanics into the game, but any new deer species we get in the future, while they may look different, will behave and be hunted much the same as any other deer we already have. Same goes for any sheep, goats, antelope, game birds etc. we may get.

What I mean to say that variety is often an illusion, and there is only so many unique species we can get before EW start recycling mechanics.

[hushed orchid]

But at least they are actually visually different, different antlers, different body shape.

Lets take the waterfowl in game for example same exact mechanics, animations and poses but what makes them actually different is the fact that are visually different your not gonna think a tufted duck and a gadwall look the same
All your gonna see again with red grouse is the red willow ptarmigan but always red, unless they replace it with a new rare I don't see the point of adding it other than being a popular bird

[dusty sleet]

They can apparently hybridize with black grouse though I had no luck finding images

[still fulcrum]

For me, it’s perfect that EW adds the Red Grouse to the Scotland reserve. What I find unfair is that EW already had the Red Grouse model finished from the plumage variation of the Willow Grouse, and now it counts as a new species—even though there are several other species that could be candidates for the fifth new species.

[mighty lagoon]

Being a popular species is itself enough justification, if a player from the UK picks up this map they would expect to see a game animals popular in their region. If they don’t I’m sure they will be disappointed.

Red grouse are also a separate and visually distinct species from willow ptarmigan, they have their own visual and behavioral nuances that are up to EW to capture in an authentic manner. If red grouse end up being exactly the same as willow ptarmigan, thats on EW for poor game design.

There are something like 300 species of galliformes in the world. Galliformes are all going to behave similarly because they are all galliformes, thats just a given. If EW decides three or four are enough because the rest are basically the same thing the game will be all the worse for it.

[midnight folio]

i agree that the red grouse makes sense in terms of a new species on a scotland reserve, but at the end of the day it’s essentially a copy and paste of a red willow ptarmigan which in and of itself does not make sense as a rare in the game considering it’s just a seasonal molt that happens in the springtime. it’s got the same build, same exact look, same face, same everything. it’s a lazy addition.

[mighty lagoon]

Scotland is a lazy addition to the games list of reserves, it’s also a map many people have been hoping for a long time. I think EW’s main reason for this reserve is to finally update many of the older models for European species which badly needed it. However red grouse are an incredibly important game animal in Scotland, their addition should not even be up for debate.

[midnight folio]

i’m not saying it should be up for debate. the first thing i said was i agree that red grouse makes sense for a scotland reserve. it’s just a lazy addition to a lazy reserve

[dusty sleet]

There are differences between them tbf red grouse shouldn’t just be red willow ptarmigan as the ptarmigan are supposed to have white on their wingtips year round while the red grouse don’t have this feature (of course cotw gets this wrong though at least for the back on the red willow ptarmigan)

Course it isn’t much, but if they’re gonna add it as a new species they should make them as different as possible

[still fulcrum]

The Red Grouse from the plumage variation of the Willow Grouse species.

[dusty sleet]

As I said they get it wrong on the back, they do have it correct on the front

[dusty sleet]

Where is that even from actually? That’s not cotw’s model is it?

[still fulcrum]

Speaking of your image, I think that it is a Red Grouse with its Formative Plumage (first winter). It is a plumage that is close to definitive plumage, acquired before the first breeding season.

[dusty sleet]

White wingtips, your image has blackish grey

[still fulcrum]

I get the picture from the app because I do not have the Red Grouse in my Lodge.

[dusty sleet]

Why not use the wiki? And what app?

[still fulcrum]

Is it the red plumage variant of the Willow Grouse?

[dusty sleet]

Yes that image is the red willow, red grouse do not have that much white on their wings

[still fulcrum]

COTW Companion

[still fulcrum]

Ah, I see. In my picture, I can’t see the front of the bird.

[inner venture]

There are definitely mallards on the map, you can hear them in the teaser trailer

[dusty sleet]

I know I’m just holding on to a tiny shred of hope that they’re just ambiance sound as unlikely as that is lol

[dusty sleet]

Funny I just mentioned hybridization between the red and black grouse earlier, though red and willow can also hybridize so not it’s not surprising the willow and black can as well

[inner venture]

Sry for the image spam, I forgot slow mode existed 😅

[still fulcrum]

My wish list of new waterfowl species for the Scotland Reserve is:
New Duck Species:
• Common Pochard
New Goose Species:
• Pink-footed Goose

[wispy garnet]

Too many birds for my taste 😭😭

[still fulcrum]

In the Scotland Reserve, I think there will be only five species of big game: Red Deer, Roe Deer, Sika Deer, Wild Boar, and Feral Goat.
I don’t think Reeves’s Muntjac or the Soay Sheep had the opportunity to be added — I really doubt it. The Fallow Deer is a possible additional option.
I also don’t think the new reserve will include Feral Pigs because that would mean having too many pigs, and Scotland isn’t full of them in real life.

[wispy garnet]

Yes, that's true, but one of the clues is basically that you'll see the animal a second time because you won't believe it the first time. However, I don't see any visually impressive bird that would fit that description. I don't see a sheep in this case either. The only unusual animals are the muntjac and the water deer, but there aren't any water deer in Scotland. So that's why I have trouble believing it's a bird. But oh well, worst case scenario, I'll just look at the landscape, crying because I didn't see a sheep or a medium, and watch a second Revontuli. But this time, a really pretty one.

[still fulcrum]

Usually, the hunters travel to England to hunt Reeves Muntjac and Water Deer. England is really full of both species. I'm sure the Water Deer won't be added.
The Reeves Muntjac Population in Scotland is very low and sporadic, but its distribution range has been expanding over the years.

[wispy garnet]

So there is a very small chance of having them as a new species because in itself it describes the second clue well.

[still fulcrum]

You have the reason. If it is the case, I hope the Reeves’s Muntjac has a distinct size (smaller than the other muntjac species from Sundarpatan)

[still fulcrum]

According to the book I have, the Red Grouse differs from all other forms of Willow Grouse in lacking a white winter plumage and in having dark wings (except for the whitish underwing-coverts) in all seasons. The Red Grouse does not acquire a white winter plumage, and it undergoes only two moults.

I finally found an image that shows two possible forms of the Red Grouse: the Normal form and the Dark form.

[dusty sleet]

Then your book is contradicting itself with that image if it says only the underwing coverts are whiteish

[still fulcrum]

No, my book is correct.

[dusty sleet]

The image you posted initially (first) shows white primaries and secondaries is that not from your book?

In any case these seem to be some decent examples for the range of white on the wings along with the detached wing you posted.

[still fulcrum]

Yes, they are whitish underwing-coverts (whitish means not pure white; it is a mixture of white and a darker color).

[dusty sleet]

I know?

[still fulcrum]

The primary and secondary feathers should be darker.

[dusty sleet]

That’s the willow that’s in game? Not what a red grouse should look like? I was saying they get it correct on the front for the willow, cause they get it wrong on the back as the primaries don’t show white on them on the back.

Front an back of the Red Willow Ptarmigan (the back should have some white on the primaries)

[dusty sleet]

Im am so confused right now, do you think the willow and the Scottish red are the same? Cause yes those are Scottish red grouse wings, I’m NOT saying that the willow in game should also be used for the red,

I only initially brought it up to highlight their differences and because Cotw gets a detail wrong on the willow for that plumage type, and that that should be corrected to further differentiate the two species.

[still fulcrum]

In real life, the Red Grouse does not have white primary and secondary feathers. The Willow Grouse yes has them.

[dusty sleet]

That is what I’ve been saying this whole time!

[still fulcrum]

For the Red Grouse. Color: The primary and secondary feathers should be darker.

[dusty sleet]

🤦

[wispy garnet]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[dusty sleet]

I am saying that for the red WILLOW they should do something like this to make it look less like the red grouse, and because that is how WILLOW ptarmigan work irl

[dusty sleet]

Not sure if it’s the language barrier or if he just isn’t reading what I say but I’m glad you’re enjoying this lol

[wispy garnet]

No, but this deaf argument is just funny. The fact that you say this, the other says that, and so on, only to end up at the same point, makes me laugh.

[dusty sleet]

Feels like he’s having his own conversation at this point idk why he started this. Or well why he started on the Willow anyway.

[wispy garnet]

No, but mosly , you're debating an animal that, who knows, might never even be on the map. 🤣

[dusty sleet]

True though I’d be very surprised if it didn’t end up in game

[wispy garnet]

He started this to show us the differences between the two according to his books, and it's interesting in itself. I must admit that I personally can't participate in your debate; I wasn't even aware this bird existed, so I'm just taking in any information about it. But it's a beautiful bird

[dusty sleet]

Suppose I should rephrase, I don’t get why he dragged the ptarmigan from the convo yesterday into it

[dusty sleet]

Anyhow here’s a Red grouse compared to what the red (also known as breeding plumage) willow ptarmigan should look like (note the differences in the primaries)

Course the Willow in this image isn’t displaying their combs so that should NOT be noted as a difference

[still fulcrum]

It is the bird model (the only image I could evaluate until you sent me the one from Wiki) that does not have white primary and secondary feathers. This is an important criterion for technically classifying a Red Grouse. Afterwards, I added two images from Wiki with red crosses indicating where EW would modify the plumage color to create the Red Grouse, using two photos of realistic Red Grouse wings as reference.
If I sent this image to an ornithologist, he would say it’s a Red Grouse.

[dusty sleet]

It’s almost like I’ve been saying they should change that this entire time

[still fulcrum]

I know there are things wrong with this model of the Willow Grouse in its red form. It needs a correction of the plumage color.

[still fulcrum]

The matter is settled! 😓😁

[inner venture]

The clues were for something extremely fast and something highly elusive, I’m pretty sure these will be the red grouse and pine marten

[dusty sleet]

Pine Martin was already confirmed so we still have 2 unknown species, woodcock are also known for being elusive

[inner venture]

Who said the clues were strictly referring to the two remaining species?

[dusty sleet]

Well the clue we got for pine Martin was that it was a third mustelid so that’s just my hunch

[limber steeple]

I'm employed what is the Diskussion about rn ?

[still fulcrum]

My final guesses are the Eurasian Woodcock and the Red Grouse. They are the kings of Woodland and Highlands.

[inner venture]

Personally I don’t think we’ll be getting woodcock this time but I could be wrong

[hushed orchid]

I feel like its red grouse and possibly a new waterfowl species

[dusty sleet]

Could be would really be nice to have a new bird skeleton tho

[wispy garnet]

I'm stay with red grouse and Reeves muntjac.

[inner venture]

I was thinking either pink-footed goose or one of the partridges as the second currently unrevealed species

[still fulcrum]

Adding the Eurasian Woodcock and the American Woodcock has also been requested for a long time. The Red Grouse is a must.

And my other final guess for the Great One is the Roe Deer.

[inner venture]

I’d say it’s either roe deer or feral goat

[hushed orchid]

I highly doubt its feral goat

Its probably between roe or boar

[still fulcrum]

If EW plans to add the Mallard to the new map, the Mallard is quacking: ‘I’m on many maps, and also in this one — I deserve to be a Great One. 🦆

[still fulcrum]

It seems some people believe that the feral goat could also become a new Great One. Is it possible for this species to get one without being remastered first?
Here are some photos of a big billies. These are not feral goats, but domestic goats.
(Left) The current largest horn spread ever recorded on a goat. (Right) Former record.
||Credit: Images by Guinness World Records||

[torn lava]

full Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKEJPj-re6k

[still fulcrum]

?

[torn lava]

Confirmed

• EU Badger

• Red Grouse

• Marten

• Mink

• Woodcock

• Red Deer

• Sika Deer

• Red Fox

• Boar

• Feral Goat

• Fallow Deer

• Roe Deer

• EU Hare

• Wigeon or Duck

[inner venture]

There was a female caper in the trailer

[still fulcrum]

Mountain Hare, I think

[inner venture]

That’s a female red grouse

[still fulcrum]

Pheasant and Western Capercaillie. I don’t know what the last returning species is.

[torn lava]

I presumed EU Hare given location but its still a hare 😂 - I didn't catch the pheasant unless it was the clip I thought might've been Black grouse. The clip was alittle distorted for me. Likely due to my net connection.

[still fulcrum]

I thought those birds were Grey Partridge for the first time.

[inner venture]

The only birds in the trailer were: red grouse, capers, pheasant, woodcock, and wigeon

[wispy garnet]

Roe deer too

[still fulcrum]

The Black Grouse or other last returning species.

[inner venture]

I didn’t see black grouse in the trailer

[torn lava]

Either way this confirms I'll be buying this 1 since it appears to be Upland Bird/Small Game driven with Med-Lrg Game. Not to mention the 5 new species makes this worth it given the Roster. Which further confirms why the Shotgun so I can give EW a pass given that fact. Also the reserve is gorgeous. • @inner venture - I was guessing with a clip hense the ? since it was distorted on my end I couldn't confirm for sure.

@limber steeple - I think you were spot on with your guess at least thus far.

[limber steeple]

Roe Deer are looking gorgous now

[torn lava]

That just leaves 3 Remaining - I expect Pheasant since EW always seems to add them everywhere & its a G1 species. Though the last 2 I honestly think will be Black Grouse & Capercaillie.

[still fulcrum]

@limber steeple You nailed it!
Only the Great One Red Deer or Wild Boar.

[inner venture]

Pheasant are the first animal you see in the trailer

[torn lava]

Thanks for confirming. It pained me that my net is wonky this morning with videos 😮‍💨

[inner venture]

I think the remaining 3 will be greylag goose, black grouse, and either mallard or Eurasian teal

[torn lava]

That would leave 2 to be yet confirmed. Badger, Red Grouse, Marten, Mink, Woodcock, Red Deer, Sika Deer, Roe Deer, Fallow Deer, Feral Goat, Boar, Red Fox, Hare, & a Quack. You just said Pheasant so that's 15/17.

[inner venture]

I forgot abt fallow lol

[torn lava]

Still though the current roster is nearly perfect. If EW included Blk Grouse & Capers this will easily be in my top 5

[wispy garnet]

Yes there are pheasant is the first animal you see in the video

[still fulcrum]

The list by @late escarp

[inner venture]

Yeah I just realized I missed a few species so there is only one currently unrevealed species left

My final prediction:

[mighty lagoon]

Where were pheasant and capercaillie confirmed? I looked through the trailer but never spotted any. I really enjoy rock ptarmigan personally and would love to see them over pheasants. Also absolutely stoked for woodcocks.

Overall I’m liking the species selection for this reserve despite a few nitpicks, I really feel like my Highlands suggestion was taken into consideration, from species to the terrain and landmarks from images I shared, it’s pretty cool.

[still fulcrum]

The Pheasant

[still fulcrum]

The pair of Western Capercailie females.

[dusty sleet]

Pretty sure this is the caper

[mighty lagoon]

lol not sure how I missed them, much appreciated

[still fulcrum]

The Red Grouse

[dusty sleet]

They are very quickly glossed over in the beginning tbf lol

[oblique token]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/818877458140627044/1442928277663780967/vibin.gif?ex=6927372d&is=6925e5ad&hm=7148f5d14391b93332f4ce5321980cb235391d00f1245fefcfef6dd8219808be&=

[dusty sleet]

Bouncy little dude lol

[still fulcrum]

Dancing all the time? Lol

[dusty sleet]

They made the primaries and secondaries a bit too light imo but it’s good to see them on the map and they look amazing otherwise

[mighty lagoon]

I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen a feral goat with the same colouring as the one on the right in game before. I think the feral goats on this reserve could possibly be the British feral breed if they all share similar coats and horn configurations as the two in the trailer, rather than TA and EC’s feral goats.

[still fulcrum]

Secretly remastered a bit?

[mighty lagoon]

That would be nice, I think they may have just limited the coat colours, but the goat on the right certainly looks to have the ibex-like horns of the British feral goat which I haven’t seen in the feral goats already in-game. Though that may just be the angle, they could just be standard nanny goats.

[limber steeple]

@oblique token squidster outdoors used your list in his new Video

[twilit hound]

Red Grouse are stunning!

[dusty sleet]

It’s just the black white fur variation

I don’t think they’ve messed with the goats at all unfortunately

[dusty sleet]

Well other than fixing the doe’s udders cause they used to just be the same as the water buffalo’s but that fix was an a while ago now (I think it was around when emerald coast released?)

[still fulcrum]

It seems the Black Grouse is not confirmed yet.

[sturdy stirrup]

vivi said onkel_monte's list was right i think. It has black grouse on it

[still fulcrum]

In YouTube videos, I noticed that one species is missing from the list.

[sturdy stirrup]

a good thing about it is that we can still speculate about this 1 animal
My guess is mallard or black grouse

[limber steeple]

Wait really ?!

[sturdy stirrup]

she said that a list made by one of the players was right, and your list is pinned.
my guess is that she meant you

[limber steeple]

Crazy, can you send a screenshot? Cant check pins on mobile

[sturdy stirrup]

oh i was wrong, sorry.. I remembered it wrong. Janny's list was pinned. I think it has the same species tho. Again sorry but your names are both pink

[limber steeple]

No Problem

[unborn shard]

Animals in new map

[toxic fulcrum]

GO Badger?

[still fulcrum]

I hope not!

[limber steeple]

EW cooked with this one but i kinda dislike the medal ratings on the plaques

[still fulcrum]

The Great One Woodcock???

[still fulcrum]

It does not seem like the G1 badger.

[limber steeple]

Patricia confirmend there wont be a GO badger

[toxic fulcrum]

thank god 🙏

[oblique token]

Most likely, where we see the Great One medal, we will see the medal of the trophy we have placed.

[still fulcrum]

Why not other subspecies of Wild Turkey?

[oblique token]

They have limited themselves to the species from the game's base maps, Hirsch and Layton, but look what Vivi and a Dev have said.

[still fulcrum]

In December 2027 or 2028, I think.

[limber steeple]

Seems realistic 😭

[sturdy stirrup]

they said that the throphy ratings the animals have are just for examples in the description in game-news. so no G1 badger!

[still fulcrum]

EW released the free Trophy Lodge in the spring of 2023.

[still fulcrum]

There won't be a Great One Badger. It is confirmed.

[limber steeple]

Cool, i think i saw that in this chat before 😭

Also leucistic Red deer

[toxic fulcrum]

GO boar in the new teaser?

[limber steeple]

Looks like a dwarf sika deer that lost antlers

[left swan]

With an abnormally elongated snout