Winter Update & DLC Prediction

[vagrant meadow]

Scotland Reserve

• Species:

  • Red Deer ( class 6 )
  • Wild Boar ( class 5 )
  • Roe Deer ( class 3 )
  • Eurasian Badger ( class 2 ) ⭐
  • Red Fox ( class 2 )
  • European Rabbit ( class 1 )
  • Red Grouse ( class 1 ) ⭐
  • Ring-Necked Pheasant ( class 1 )
  • Red-Legged Partridge ( class 1 ) ⭐
  • Eurasian Woodcock ( class 1 ) ⭐
  • Common Snipe ( class 1 ) ⭐
  • Wood Pigeon ( class 1 ) ⭐
  • Mallard ( class 1 )
  • Eurasian Teal ( class 1 )
  • Northern Shoveler ( class 1 ) ⭐
  • Eurasian Wigeon ( class 1 )
  • Pink-Footed Goose ( class 1 ) ⭐
  • Greylag Goose ( class 1 )

• Weapon:

  • Shotgun Side & Side 12GA.

Free Update

• Great One:

  • Roe Deer

• Backfilling:

  • Fallow Deer & Red-Legged Partridge to Cuatro Colinas.

• Species Remasteres:

  • Red Deer
  • Wild Boar
  • Fallow Deer
  • Sika Deer
  • Roe Deer

• TruRACS Remasteres:

  • Red Deer
  • Fallow Deer
  • Sika Deer
  • Roe Deer

I know it's a lot of content and a lot of changes, but dreaming is free. 😃

[heady crystal]

I'm not so sure a European Map so soon would be the best idea, if they want to add a new map specifically to get in remodels for animals like Roe Deer, Wild Boar and Chamois the Caucasus Mountains would be a good reserve setting since it not only has those species present but it also features a lot of new species like the 2 Caucasian Turs, Armenian Mouflon, Bezoar Ibex and Golden Jackal to name a few

Plus with the fact that we are getting Desert Bighorn, a reserve set in the Caucasus Mountains could be a good reserve to split the Red Deer into seperate subspecies with the Caucasus Mountains having Maral (Cervus elaphus maral), Cuatro having Iberian Red Deer and the rest being European Red Deer

I do agree with the Iberian Mouflon being renamed to European Mouflon, I would go a bit further and change the scientific name they have in the codex from Ovis orientalis musimon to Ovis aries musimon since for the last few years they have been considered a subspecies of the domestic sheep based on genetic and archaeological evidence (The oldest remains of mouflon in Europe are 7,000 year old bones from Corsica and Sardinia and were later introduced into other parts of Europe over the last few centuries where as true Mouflon mainly live in Turkey, Armenia and Iran)

I also agree with the wolves being brought down to Class 5 in general and a TruRACKS rework for several species is always nice when needed

[cunning solstice]

I mean…I’m not trying to diss on the idea of Austria, but there’s far more places that would make for better maps. Honestly the only place in Europe I’d want is Bulgaria, as you could get all of these species on top of a handful of exotics, and European Bison.

[vagrant meadow]

I made this prediction randomly at Christmas last year, but the fact that we'll see the Red Deer rework at the end of the year just fuels this prediction even more.

In any case, whether it is one map or another, as long as the European species improves, it is useful to me.

[vagrant meadow]

We won't see the European bison on any map other than Hirschfelden, as it's the only unique species on the map, and every map must have at least one unique species to have some exclusivity.

[cunning solstice]

Still, Bulgaria could have the Ibex, Badger, Wolf, and Mouflon as well as all the other species listed, and throw in some exotics like Kri Kri and Aoudad.

[vagrant meadow]

Yes, but the ibex from Bulgaria isn’t the same as the Alpine ibex, and sooner or later they’ll have to add it to the game.

[cunning solstice]

There are multiple kinds of Ibex found in Bulgaria, including the Alpine Ibex. There also the KriKri and the Bezoar.

[rustic sand]

Is the next map Austria?

[rustic sand]

Bulgarian Ibex?!

In Austria, there is the Himalayan Tahr.

[vagrant meadow]

?

[rustic sand]

There is also the Sika Deer in Austria.

[heady crystal]

Bulgaria is unique in thats its the only country where you can legally hunt an Alpine Ibex with a bow

[zealous hinge]

class 6/5 wolves is the only problem i have with this, the Eurasian wolf (Along with the gray Wolf) should be class 4 and the Iberian wolf should be class 3 wolves aren't all that big or Tough

[cunning solstice]

I think class 4 would be good for all kinds of wolves. People generally hunt wolves with calibers like .308 and .270 at least here in the states.

[zealous hinge]

anything from .204 Ruger to 270 is used on wolves in Canada to great effect

[rustic sand]

There are European bison in Bulgaria. Here I have a VHS video from the Extreme Hunting in Bulgaria collection. It’s a good opportunity for reworking the model.

[rustic sand]

Austria and the Caucasus maps have the same opportunity to rework the European bison model.

[dusk slate]

I hope ya’ll have seen and voted on the september 2025 survey where they asked for maps we would like to see. I think the one most voted will be the one to come next: https://survey.alchemer.eu/s3/90915414/theHunter-Call-of-The-Wild-September-Survey

[brittle portal]

No class 9??

[turbid pond]

Nothing mentioning Africa makes me very sad

Japan and Sweden were mentioned but not Africa? That’s crazy to me.

[dusk slate]

Idk i guess they have their reasons, but they did adress some Africa questions though

[turbid pond]

I was talking about that survey, but I’m glad they addressed some of the African questions(mine in particular)

[inner estuary]

Didn't see that, what did they say?

[dusk slate]

Oh yeah i understood that, but i meant like i hope you got some relief from them addressing it. I expect Africa coming to us next summer tbh

[turbid pond]

It’s good to know that if we want Africa 2.0 we have to want lodge reworks first

I’ve been expecting Africa for years now😞

[dusk slate]

Yeah i do think it’s close though, to quote a swedish saying: ”he who waits for something good never waits too long”

[heady crystal]

This is where I will bring up a point that has been brought up before: A Plains Game focused African Map

Now in saying that here is a fun way to make an entire year focused on Africa

• Plains Game focused map that not only brings in species like Impala, Nile Crocodile and Hartebeest but also gives a new home to the Lesser Kudu
• Trophy Lodge Rework with a brand new Trophy Lodge
• AFRICA 2.0 with Elephants and other members of the Dangerous 7 (Lion, Buffalo, Hippo, etc) and plains game like Giraffe, Zebra, Greater Kudu and more

If done right that gives us 2 African Reserves in one year

I think the Plains Game map would be the easier map when compared to Africa 2.0 (Though as was said in the QnA brand new animals take time so I could see animals like Warthog, Buffalo, Lion and Jackal getting used a fair bit)

[cunning solstice]

Well it is funny to watch all the fanboys cry every 6 months when they don’t get Africa. Plus, what’s the point of bringing in Africa 2.0 if they don’t do Elephants, Hippos, or Rhinos right?

[brittle portal]

Why cant it just be a add on to Vurhonga savanna

[inner estuary]

Because Vurhonga is a bit dated and there are a few species that shouldn't be there. It's honestly a bit of a convoluted map.

[cunning solstice]

A bit dated is an understatement, but I get it

[turbid pond]

It depends on what the map would be

The Ethiopian highlands, the kafue swamps in Zambia, the Congo jungles of Cameroon(with the exception of forest elephants to that), east cape of South Africa, the Somali deserts. There’s a bunch of potential in Africa that doesn’t need the big five

Everyone just expects the big 5 because they’ve taken so long to touch Africa again

[orchid prism]

I personally wish they retroactively added species into vurhonga until we get an africa 2.0. No matter how big africa 2.0 is, it still wont cover enough species. Species like the greater kudu (which I still have no clue or good reason why they decided the lesser kudu was the play), eland, impala and sables or hartebeest. This would allow them to get all the big animals like elephants, rhinos, leopards, zebra and maybe a giraffe in. Although personally idrc about the bigger more popular animals as nobody hunts them irl as A) its illegal B) their all kinda big and stupid except leopards and zebra and isnt really fun and C) Maybe this is because I'm South African, but it just doesn't feel normal. Although I know a lot of people want it and it is a game so we can see how they could make it more interesting finding and making shots on an animal where its harder to miss than hit. But at the end of the day there probably needs to be africa 3.0 as well. Also unfortunately with the red dear rework and everything theres no chance its the next map.

[acoustic solar]

From where is that ?

Amyways, what is poland doing in that survey ?!

[acoustic solar]

No Marmot on an alps map ?

And why mallard again 😭

[heady crystal]

Oh yeah that is a missed opportunity, I would rather have marmots then mallards

[turbid pond]

Elephants are legally huntable in 8 countries(and technically Ethiopia).
4 countries allow giraffe hunting.
2 that allow rhino.
10 countries allow leopard hunting.
And 7 that allow Zebra.

Your statement that they’re illegal to hunt is wrong.

[rustic sand]

EW will not choose a country where there are no return species.
EW would choose Austria because of the large number of return species, similar to the case of the New England Mountains (released in December)
There are no Alpine ibex in Poland, only the mountain animal Tatra Chamois (Rupicapra rupicapra tatrica). The Alpine ibex can’t miss that opportunity, since Classic has it.
Austria has both species, and the chamois need to be reworked (the chamois subspecies in New Zealand is the Alpine chamois, the same as in Austria). The mouflon needs to be remodeled and its name changed. The Roe Deer also needs remodeling. Alpine Marmot! European Badger, Pine Marten Wildcat, Gray Partridge, Rock Partridge and Woodcock.
More return species: Himalayan Tahr, Sika Deer, Western Capercaillie, Black Grouse, Brown Bear, Wolf, Lynx, Pheasant and European Bison (reworked)…

[rustic sand]

Animals that are 100% native to Europe.

[orchid prism]

Next time ill remember to say its illegal however in some countries its mostly illegal but under strict circumstances sometimes someone gets to hunt them and that in fact not nobody hunts them irl but actually a minute % of people get the opportunity to hunt one of the species. I think you might've missed the point.

[rustic sand]

With the newly remodeled red deer, the next map is probably European or from a non-European country where red deer exist.

[acoustic solar]

Dont forget this, it indicates we might be getting an wildboar multimount next update. Means its probably also on the next Map

[dusk slate]

I think it’s from EW, it usually is in the game, it’s the same format, same website, haven’t seen it in game though i got it sent to me on a suggestion. I hope i haven’t been deceiving people

[vagrant meadow]

@dusk slate @acoustic solar

[cunning solstice]

There’s plenty of places where you can simply pay for a tag and take one of these animals. Hell, Giraffes can be hunted for as little as $2000 USD in Zimbabwe. Leopards can go for as little as $9900 USD. Rhinos and Elephants are more expensive but they’re still able to be hunted regularly in Botswana and Namibia. Rhinos can be hunted in Namibia as well.

[dusk slate]

Ok thanks, i was wondering

[orchid prism]

I did say I'm from South Africa where I know leopards and black rhinos are illegal in and white rhinos and elephants are restricted. Also at least where I grew up we were taught its illegal but that might be to discourage poaching now that I think about it, but yes you're right you can. But still my point isn't that. It's about would it actually be fun or not besides just oooo big animal. To put it to scale, its like if you saw an elephant walking around layton it would be so obvious and easy to land a vital shot. So I was saying I don't personally care for them as much as I think the novelty could wear off and probably also because normally, at least myself and the people I know, hunt antelope. I do think bigger animals could be cool but it needs to be done correctly with a map that's designed around them and can still make it challenging and support it.

[dusk slate]

I think the best way to do elephants is have them being rare to see, so it can always be cool to see them, you don’t know their zone times, so when they appear you can always have that cool moment because it would be a uniqe feature to it as well

[orchid prism]

I agree or at least a low population with longer range movement like 3-4 herds that all travel across the full map. Another idea is changing need zones that move across the map (as in the need zones themselves change locations) instead as elephants move and migrate a lot.

[radiant sun]

My bru leopard are not illegal to hunt in SA. The department of forestry, fisheries and the environment sets out a quota of leopard, elephant and rhino to be hunted in SA every year. They're also legal to hunt in most of southern africa

[heady crystal]

Sure an Elephant is a big target but that does not mean they are that easy to hunt and everything I have read indicates that elephant hunting can be quite difficult despite their size

For one you do require a really big rifle (375 Magnum is considered the legal minimum in countries that allow elephant hunting but something like the 470 Nitro Express is preferred) or a powerful bow (85 pound minimum draw weight with some big arrows from what I remember) meaning that when they get added to the game they will need a brand new weapon class (which is why every African reserve suggestion that includes elephant have them listed as a Class 10 Species)

they can be shockingly elusive and disappear into thick brush and this is especially if your going after an older bull and from my understanding you could be tracking a bull elephant for dozens of miles before you could even get an opportunity at a shot

Plus shot placement is everything and if you mess up you will either have to track it down again or deal with an angry behemoth

[radiant sun]

Dalton & York safaris in Zimbabwe films and uploads a lot of their hunts to youtube and a lot of the stuff they film and upload are leopard, lion, Buffalo and elephant hunts.

You really get a sense for just how tough elephant hunting can actually be watching their videos. I mean besides the fact that they're big, they also have good hearing and one of the most excellent senses of smell of animals in the bush so a little gust of wind and they know what's up with you. Their eyesight isn't so great but it helps when you're looking down on almost everything.

This misconception that elephant are big and dumb really baffles me

[heady crystal]

Plus they are quite intelligent which can make the hunt more difficult

[rustic sand]

It seems there’s a rumor about the possible existence of a new Great One Roe Deer coming soon.

[dusk slate]

I hope for a remodel as well

[inner estuary]

That would be nice. Still waiting on a Grizzly remodel.

[rustic sand]

Great One Roe Deer with a wig

[turbid pond]

Boar also have a good chance of a G1

[dusk slate]

I think we all are hahah, though my priority is for the European animals

[rustic sand]

A new rare Wild Boar: the wild boar–pig hybrid.

[rustic sand]

Diamond Spanish Roe Deer

[orchid prism]

You're right as well. They changed it in 2022. Still not my point

[orchid prism]

Yea I agree, thats my point, it needs the correct map and animal ai for it to work. You need thick and tall enough brush that it can be elusive but also doesn't get stuck on like the current animals getting stuck on trees. Also IRL elephant hunting is tough for many reasons but also because if you do make a bad shot it could trample you. For it to be interesting you need to get that sense in the game. I think they did a really good job implementing that with the tigers and a bad job with cape buffalo. If they can keep the standard of the tigers for elephants it would be great. Its still not my preferred animal because personal preference but yes it can be done. My problem is if it's not done right, then it would be really bad, worse than a normal animal not done right. I think its a tougher challenge for the devs to get it right as well.

[lethal harbor]

If it was this I’d be disappointed

Effectively a bunch of reskinned species with different names

[acoustic solar]

Those Boars should watch out

A new hunter joined the hunt

[jaunty slate]

Which is what Askiy Ridge was. I love the end result of that fantastic map, but it was a "North America - Greatest Hits" map w/ "new" species generally being re-skins. But they included soooo many species that the map became a lot of fun. The remodeled animals were sorely needed and appreciated... it just wasn't an exotic/fresh new map.

Perhaps they do the "European - Greatest Hits" version of that in Dec. So 2025 would effectively remaster and re-skin several old & beloved North American & European species, which includes updates for the Layton Lakes & Hirschfelden base game maps.

If that's the 2025 strategy... it's a boring-yet-needed year for CotW. Would be a step back from Australia + Nepal, but in the long run may be overall appreciated IMO

If this occurs... then 2026 better be full of NEW exotic places to hunt! Lol

[jaunty slate]

Given the dev time required, the Dec 2025 map is prob 99% unrelated to this survey. But I could see it driving a future map in 2026, certainly.

Given this, I read the survey results as a likely-confirmation of places NOT coming in Dec 2025... which means that unmentioned locales like Africa, Greenland, or South America could def be the new December map!

Or it'll just be another Euro release 🤣😂

[torn phoenix]

It will another Africa map. With GO lion. But the lion will the same. Peaceful and undangerous. Maybe with hippo.

[acoustic solar]

Sooo

[vagrant meadow]

The new map in winter is Central European.

[acoustic solar]

For Sure, lets hope for badgers and Alpine ibex

[round oriole]

If that does end up being the case I could see EW using whatever they come up with for a potential alpine ibex to remaster the furs of the four Spanish ibex

[acoustic solar]

Lets hope so, they dont Look to good

[rustic sand]

The new model Wild Boar seems very good! I dude about the new model Red Deer.

[acoustic solar]

Maybe its not quiete finished, maybe its just the Video quality. But the boar lacks something. Fur seems very flat

Better screen shot quality

[rustic sand]

Summer fur? 🤔

[acoustic solar]

Would prefer if they had winter fur

Still it doesent look to textured

[rustic sand]

It is reasonable. I prefer the winter fur because there is the winter map Medved Taiga.

[acoustic solar]

Hirsch is fall too

Only exaption is cuatro

[rustic sand]

Two distinct fur for each season?🤔

[acoustic solar]

Would be a far skretch. But Mountain goats also kunda have this. Diffent fur length for some furs

[rustic sand]

Yes, it is possible

[rustic sand]

The Alps or The Balcanes Mountains, I think.

[rustic sand]

I would like a snowy European map.

[acoustic solar]

Fall alps with Dynamik Werther like Yukon (or sundar so it only snows in the peaks)

[rustic sand]

I like this feeder a lot. It is common in Europe.

[rustic sand]

A beech forest without leaves. I like it a lot!

[rustic sand]

The Wild Boar Drive! 🤩

[acoustic solar]

Did i missed anything ? What do mean by that ? But the beech defently would be cool

[rustic sand]

I like this biome. In this forest, I watch a lot of Wild Boar Drive Videos.

[acoustic solar]

Ahh check

[rustic sand]

Also the Oak forest without leaves.

[ionic blade]

Honestly, personally I would replace red fox with maybe another new animal like say… “golden jackal” I do think red foxes could use a break for right now

[rustic sand]

Yes!

[rustic sand]

The forested mountain part of Hirschfelden reminds me a bit of Austria, so I prefer the Balkans for the different biomes.

[rustic sand]

I am worried about this model. It reminds me of the elk's back. Aren't the ears bigger for Red Deer?

[acoustic solar]

Idk about the ears, but the deer looks a bit chubby

Or its s new GO Red deer Variante that can spawn as a female 😂

[cunning solstice]

That’s Hirschfelden…

[acoustic solar]

Yeah its hirschfelden, the background is not what he meant. The Red deer and boar remodel lead to the conclusion the next map is europe, although it could be any place where Red deer and wild boar are living together

[cunning solstice]

I was gonna say, just because there’s both Wild Boar and Red Deer doesn’t mean that it’s necessarily a European Map, let alone a Central European map. That could mean it’s North Africa, Central Asia, even somewhere like Pakistan or even somewhere like Azerbaijan/Georgia.

[acoustic solar]

Yeah there are multiple locations, but i doubt its gonna be one of those you mentioned. But thats just my feeling

[rustic sand]

Is it the Bactrian Deer? Kazakhstan map? 🇰🇿
This photo is the reference

[cunning solstice]

Idk, I see absolutely no reason to add another Central European map when you could bring in Bulgaria and add in the Alpine Ibex and Badgers that everybody wants, plus Marmots, Jackals, and a variety of exotic species that couldn’t be hunted in a place like Austria or Switzerland.

[rustic sand]

European Bison reworked 🤩.

[cunning solstice]

I definitely wouldn’t complain about a Euro Bison rework. Personally I think that Hirsch could use at least 1 Unique species, so I wouldn’t like to Euro bison on another map, but I definitely want a remaster eventually.

[vagrant meadow]

But if the European animals are reworked it's because the winter map will be in Central Europe, right?

[cunning solstice]

No…not necessarily. It likely means there’s both red deer and wild boar on the map but that doesn’t mean it’s specifically CENTRAL European. As I said in a previous comment, it could very well be in any place that the 2 species live. North Africa, the Caucasus, the Balkans, Turkey, Central Asia, hell it could even be Texas for all we know.

[vagrant meadow]

The wild boar is not in America, the feral pig is there, then the only place apart from Europe that could be on the map is Turkey. The rest of the places you mentioned will never be, and even less Africa, since if they include African maps, it won't be the north with wild boars and deer...

And Turkey wouldn’t be the location either, because in September they asked if we would like a map of Turkey, etc.

The options I’m thinking of are that it could be either in France or in Austria, and I’d say there’s a 60% chance it’s Austria and a 40% chance it’s France.

[cunning solstice]

There are pigs in Texas that are essentially the exact same as Eurasian Boars. They have reverted back over centuries to resemble their ancestors.

Bulgaria could very easily be a map, as there’s plenty of species there that couldn’t be added.

Türkyie is very similar to Bulgaria.

Morocco has both Barbary Stags (which is a North African red deer subspecies) and Wild Boars that were introduced by the Romans.

The Caucasus are a fairly popular suggestion for a map and could bring in many new species like Bezoar Ibex and Tur.

Central Asia is another possible location that could have many new species.

France and Austria would genuinely just be a more boring version of Bulgaria. Bulgaria has the Alpine Ibex and the Eurasian Badgers that everyone wants so bad, on top of Aoudad, Kri Kri Ibex, Golden Jackals, Feral Yaks, and many other exotics.

[vagrant meadow]

Asia won’t be the location, Africa even less so. Bulgaria could be possible, but before adding Bulgaria, they would probably add either Hungary or Romania. Even so, I still think it will be either Austria or France, with the Alps.

[heady crystal]

The Wild Boar in Morocco got there the same way the ancestors of the Barbary Red Deer did considering the wild boar there are considered a seperate subspecies from European Boar

[cunning solstice]

Why wouldn’t Asia be possible? Or North Africa? Both of them have boars. North Africa is definitely less likely but Türkyie, Bulgaria, the Caucasus, and Central Asia are all possibilities.

[cunning solstice]

You’re right, I was thinking of something completely different. But seeing as COTW doesn’t seem to care about subspecies for some animals, I don’t feel that they’d differentiate between the North African Boar and the European Boar. Same goes for the Barbary Stag and the Central European Red Deer, much like what they did with Cuatro and what should be the Iberian Red Deer.

[vagrant meadow]

1. If you’re going to add an African map, you’d make it from the south, with elephants, antelopes, etc. — otherwise, there’s no point in making a North African map (Morocco).

2. Türkiye won’t be it, because it appeared in the September survey, so it won’t be the winter map.

3. The Caucasus and Central Asia won’t be either, simply because they keep talking about European topics on their website.

4. The valid locations would be France, Austria, and maybe Romania or Hungary.

[heady crystal]

Bulgaria would be great considering that they not only have a lot of the European species that need a remodel but it would also come with species that are not in the game yet like Alpine Ibex, Golden Jackal and Aoudad and I remember reading that they even have some Bezoar Ibex there plus there are upland birds from Europe not in the game like wood pigeon, partridge, common quail and woodcock

[cunning solstice]

1. There’s plenty reason to make a North African map, I just don’t think you’ve done any research whatsoever on the interesting species that are there.

2. Just because they talk about European topics doesn’t mean anything. They added Sundarpatan, which is set in Nepal, when EW hadn’t mentioned anything about Nepal whatsoever beforehand.

3. There’s next to nothing that could go on a French, Austrian, Romanian, or Hungarian map that couldn’t go in Bulgaria. Plus, MooseDragon has a pretty popular suggestion on Bulgaria, whereas there’s not any that I’ve seen on Austria, Romania, or Hungary, and only a handful on France.

[vagrant meadow]

To be more direct and to the point, the map will be set in the European Alps or in Hungary/Romania, there’s no real chance it will be anywhere else.

[acoustic solar]

Just give up 😭

If this guy has an opinion he wont change it and defend it till everybody is pissed of

[cunning solstice]

Might as well because this guy very obviously can’t see that there’s other places than France, Austria, Hungary, and Romania to hunt 💀

[heady crystal]

The only new species I can think of for France and Austria are mostly birds and small game with Alpine Ibex, and for Romania and Hungary it would again be mostly small game, birds and jackals, at least Askiy Ridge came with more then a couple new birds

[cunning solstice]

Exactly, and that’s why (other than Small Game Salzweisen style maps) the only place imo that is warranted of a map in Europe is Bulgaria.

[acoustic solar]

We wanna bet again ?

Or did i bet With an another person last time ? Anyways

[vagrant meadow]

Therefore, we have 4 possible destinations for the winter map, which would be Austria, Romania, France, and Hungary.

For these reasons:

1. The countries Sweden, Poland, and Turkey are not possible maps for this winter because they were featured in a survey in September, so there isn’t enough time to create a hunting reserve.

2. Additionally, the Wild Boar and Red Deer will be on the map because they are being redesigned, so England-Scotland are also not possible destinations.

3. Therefore, we are left with these 4 locations: France, Austria, Romania, and Hungary.

in my opinion

[acoustic solar]

hhm ....

England? Scotland ? Lithuania ?

but i get you. the thing is that you often tend to express your opinion as if that would be the only Possibility to happen. you get what i mean? its pretty annoying

like dont get me wrong i think you´re a cool guy with good ideas but the way you sometimes handle others opinions is not great

[vagrant meadow]

Thanks, I’ll have myself look into that and I’ll discuss the ideas or predictions in another way.

[round oriole]

I could see Northern Italy being an option either

[dusk slate]

Rip NEM

I forgot about Bulgaria, i would love that map mostly because it’s variety

[rustic sand]

I want this model in Hirschfelden. 🥺 What beautiful!

[dusk slate]

Are bison in Bulgaria?

[heady crystal]

Yes, its the only country where you can hunt European Bison and Alpine Ibex with a bow as far as I know

[dusk slate]

Wow Bulgaria might actually be the next map, can you link your suggestion for a map like that? I’ve lost it

[heady crystal]

#1247766230530789447

[dusk slate]

Thx

[acoustic solar]

New Red deer Model with a leucistic and a new piepald Variation + closer Look at the boar remodel

[inner estuary]

I really hope we get a good European map with weapons, stands, and shooting lanes suited for good driven hunting and/or placing feeders. A drive dog DLC or two would be legit too. As well as a 9.3×62mm. Not gonna lie, I'd also love a modified rifle range with moving big game targets to practice driven hunt shooting.

[ionic blade]

If it’s Europe….PLEASE For The love of all that is Holy Add Golden Jackals…And Please Use Golden Jackals instead of Red Fox!

[turbid sable]

You know, you can simply have both France and Bulgaria. In themselves, these two countries have nothing in common in terms of geography, environment, climatic conditions, they each have their own species. In France, being French I can tell you, we have two subspecies of sika deer which are only hunted here, we have 86 species huntable all year round plus those accepted by the prefecture such as buried animals that have become wild again like cows, goats or pigs. We have invasive species such as sika deer species, Reeves' muntjac or a squirrel. in short in both cases, you will have a completely different universe so to say that France brings nothing while it is there where there are the most huntable species (especially since we also have a lot of subspecies so some are only found here like the Pyrenean grouse or the famous Chamois of the Chartreuse. In Bulgaria I have no doubt that there is also such a diversity of species so different. So for me both Pass.

[hearty harbor]

Personally I wouldn't mind both I love small game

Especially small predators like foxes, coyotes and jackals

[dusk slate]

That would be awesome

[dusk slate]

For me that depends on the environment, personally i’d love to hunt red fox in the snow in Europe because of the vibe but aside from that i would prefer jackals. For class 2 species there can be badgers or mink maybe, beavers can also be added again but i doubt they’ll get added on the upcoming map, since they are trying to get creative with newer species (both tigers and beavers proved that)

[acoustic solar]

New roe deer Model

[vagrant meadow]

where??

[acoustic solar]

According to doc honse its from xbox and PS store as a dlc Banner

[dusk slate]

You are getting all the information dude, the background is unfamilliar so maybe it’s a tease for the new map?

[acoustic solar]

would say its just hirsch

[dusk slate]

Could be, i play on that map very much though and it seems it has more green bushes and so, i could be reading into it though. I have been really wanting a new European map

[acoustic solar]

maybe, i would say its just shadow and bad picture quality (i also play often on hirsch its my most played map). btw could you check DM's?

[acoustic solar]

btw here is a bigger picture,looks a bit diffrent indeed

[dusk slate]

Yeah, but as you said, could just be the lower quality

[rustic sand]

Will the first image of the new map be released tomorrow?

[acoustic solar]

I think it already did

In the background of the wolve picture

[rustic sand]

I think not

[acoustic solar]

Yeah idk its pretty blurred. It still looks diffrent to me then any of the maps we have

[rustic sand]

Nah

[tidal imp]

isnt that just askiy ridge?

[acoustic solar]

Its not so clear on the screen shot but if you zoom in on Youtube you can Spot a glimpse of Orange at the foot of the Mountain

[ionic blade]

Again If it’s Europe Then WE NEED JACKALS!

[rustic sand]

A European map showing where the golden jackal lives.

[rustic sand]

Is this the map of the next reserve?

[acoustic solar]

its te awaroa rotated by 180°

[cunning solstice]

That’s just Te Awaroas map but rotated. You can find that same picture on Rancho Del Arroyo in some of the outposts.

[rustic sand]

It’s true! In this map, there isn’t the coastal part in the west, but it’s definitely Te Awaroa.

[rustic sand]

Ah, yes, I can see it. I can’t imagine they would reveal the next reserve’s map at one of the outposts.

[acoustic solar]

would be cool though

cant wait for an actual announcement, still i am sure we'll get the teaser trailer next week

[cunning solstice]

If I were a betting man I’d bet on Tuesday, unless for some reason EW is releasing the map later in December than usual

[acoustic solar]

2 years ago i would have guessed tuesday too

nowaday days it seems that they release the teasers trailers on thursdays. if we look at alberta teasing phase we gott he first image of the map on tuesday and the teaser trailer on thursday. so i guess we will get the teaser trailer on thursday the 13th and maybe the first image of the new map on tuesday the 11th

[rustic sand]

Do we expect a new map and a dog DLC?

[acoustic solar]

i mean i would like a dog but i dont we will get one. atleast not as a dlc but maybe we'll get the map with a dog instand of a reserve weapon. that would make sense if we would get a dog with a limited use like dachshound in case the map has badgers and burrow using red fox

[rustic sand]

And backfilling and new species in existing maps? Remodeling other species for existing maps?
Well, we’ll find out soon

[acoustic solar]

Remodel animals that are on the new map ? Yes. Remodeling species from other maps that arent on the new one ? Depends.

Backfilling would be nice, but i hoped for thst the last 3 years and i doubt we will get it soon either. But we can still hope

[rustic sand]

There will likely be a scene with red deer in the snow in the trailer.

[acoustic solar]

Wouldnt be to Sure that the new map will have snow but i would say the teaser trailer likly includes a new G1 Red deer variant. But incase the map has badgers i think we could see like a burrow of the badger (maybe also with a dog bark ro tease dachshound ?)

[vagrant meadow]

I wouldn't like it to be snowy reserve, I hope it's in France with the alpine ibex, chamois, red deer, roe deer, fallow deer, wild boar, mouflon, red-legged & gray partridge, quail, etc.

[acoustic solar]

I wouldnt like it to be snowy either. Alps would be cool but i think the next map is goung to be the UK

[vagrant meadow]

I don't think it's in the UK since they've remodeled the Wild Boar and it will be on the map.

[acoustic solar]

True

I still dont think it was a coincidance that the first Letters of the words from their Wolf post are GB UK
Great Britin United Kingdom

[vagrant meadow]

lol, that's really far-fetched.

[rustic sand]

Is the trailer coming out tomorrow? Is it confirmed?

[acoustic solar]

No but its logical. The other teaser trailers also were around the 13th and on thursdays

We could even get the first Image of the new map today, if not even in 5 min

[rustic sand]

It’s a painting of a red fox facing an animal that I think is a female roe deer. Could it be a hint about the next snowy Europe map?

Speaking of the new next patch 8.4, it seems like this is inevitable. I prefer the bust over the decapitated one.

[acoustic solar]

Since they didnt stated a release date i think its clear it will come with the new map. Means teaser trailer tommorow guys !!!

[rustic sand]

It is the bust

[rustic sand]

So we can customize the plaque?

[acoustic solar]

Yeah with all cosmetics it seems

[vagrant meadow]

New crocodile score?, besides painting the trophy boards.

actual score

[tidal imp]

would that mean there are now different factors involved in the Saltwater crocodile score?

[vagrant meadow]

Possibly, because the current diamond score is 1015 and in the video there appears a gold with 146 so I guess they changed it.

[acoustic solar]

Nah i think the number is just diveded so it isint that big yk ?

[rustic sand]

I want the truesize of the Crocodiles species.

[tidal imp]

oh yeah makes sense

[vagrant meadow]

is possible

[tidal imp]

crocodiles already have a size difference dont they? i see different sized crocodiles when im hunting sometimes

[rustic sand]

I am not sure

[shell saffron]

The females are smaller than the males but all the males are the same size

[rustic sand]

I think a new species is going to appear in the short teaser trailer. What new species are you expecting? I’m hoping for the European Badger 🦡 , because it should be present in any European map, whether it’s France, Bulgaria, or the UK.
Alternatively, they might just show the landscape and include some kind of hint related to a new species, like they did with the beaver in Askiy Ridge.

[acoustic solar]

Badger rushing out of a burrow and then a dog Bark in the background 🙏

Badger map plus dachshound

[ionic blade]

Badger and Jackal are my pics

[inner estuary]

Personally I'd love to see a line of Wild Boar running with the sound of multiple dogs barking in pursuit behind them.

[turbid pond]

Knowing that the taxidermy system is going to be given some love, I wonder if skulls and rugs are going to be added?

[rustic sand]

UK Map 🇬🇧

[vagrant meadow]

These landscapes remind me of France, Mediterranean forests of cork oaks and holm oaks.

[vivid whale]

I really hope it isn’t Scotland, either France or Romania would be so much more interesting

[rustic sand]

I think it is possible

Land of the bowhunter Robin Hood
Sherwood Forest (UK)

[tidal imp]

The music tho, and the description says highs and lows maybe meaning the Scottish Highlands? I do think that a French map is cooler tho

[vagrant meadow]

Well, it could be France or England, but I don't think it's Scotland.

[turbid sable]

The music is so un-French, and the trees don't seem to be French species at first glance. No, really, everything points to it being UK. In any case, as a Frenchman, I don't recognize the species or the biomes represented. If it were Mediterranean, I wouldn't know how to explain it, but it would have been visible. For the moment, I'd say UK.

[vagrant meadow]

I am Spanish and here in Spain there are forests of holm oaks and cork oaks that are the same as the forest shown in the teaser, and that's why I doubt it.

[vivid whale]

Unfortunately it definitely seems like it’s gonna be Scotland

[turbid sable]

Oh yes, in France too, but more towards the north than the south. Southern France has more maritime pines, beech trees, scrubland, and lots of plains. It's drier. You have garrigue scrubland and things like that. But yes, I understand and I agree with you on that point.

There's a clue, though: it's still the ones saying "misty." Southern France isn't like that. And the north isn't really either. Hence, more UK.

[turbid pond]

Well it was all a night so there’s not a lot you can be certain on when it comes to the type of tree

Also, WHY IS IT AT NIGHT? With aski ridge it made sense because northern lights. But this? I don’t get it

[vagrant meadow]

At frame 0:10 of the teaser trailer you can hear Canada geese

[turbid sable]

You said it yourself, that's precisely for only showing a few details, probably so that it's difficult to know where it is for now. It's to maintain an air of mystery.

[vagrant meadow]

That's normal, we'll probably have the trailer next Tuesday.

[turbid pond]

And probably a couple more teasers until then

[vagrant meadow]

is possible

[rustic sand]

A castle and a Scottish red deer— I think it’s a Scotland-England map.

[rustic sand]

Does the Red Deer model look worse? It looks less defined, I see.

[vagrant meadow]

For me it's worse, I prefer the current one.

[rustic sand]

I really dislike these Legendary antlers. They’re oversized.

[vagrant meadow]

Sure, they're kind of too exuberant.

[rustic sand]

Red deer from levels 1 to 6 are realistic.

[vagrant meadow]

yeah 🔥

[vagrant meadow]

Likewise, the only options we have are UK or France.

[rustic sand]

France without the Alps? It is a Drawback.

[vagrant meadow]

The description says hunting high up and low down, so if it's France it surely has the Alps, because if they showed the Alps in this video everyone would know where it is, however there is mystery because they only showed coast, forest and a tower with the red deer.

[turbid sable]

Yes, but the description also says "misy," and the Alps and France in general don't have much of that. If they added it, it's because there's a good chance of having a lot of it, and it would be strange to have a French map that's always shrouded in fog. Yes, the area is mountainous; so far we've only seen hills, but they don't resemble the Massif Central, the Vosges, the Jura, or the Ardennes. So I'm still leaning towards the UK. But if it's a French map, I'll applaud you because even I wouldn't have seen that.

[vagrant meadow]

It could be either option, France or the UK, but if you think about the map of Spain, in the lower areas of the map there is usually a lot of fog at dawn and dusk, especially in the river area.

Anyway, next week we'll surely find out if it's in the UK or France.

[turbid sable]

Okay, it's true I don't play this map much, but I still think it's beautiful. I'll pay attention next time. Also, is Spain known for being a foggy country?

[rustic sand]

Spain is a sunny country

[turbid sable]

Ok

[turbid pond]

How likely is it that they are going to add squirrels?

I’m not a big squirrel in COTW proponent but I know a lot of people are

[vagrant meadow]

Not much, but for example, when I go hunting, in the lower areas of the countryside there always tends to be more fog.

because in the lower areas is where more fog always accumulates due to frost in the air during the night.

[rustic sand]

In UK
Red Squirrel -> protected
Grey Squirrel -> invasive (huntable)

[turbid pond]

A species being protected hasn’t really stopped EW from putting them in the game before

[rustic sand]

It is expected that the most anticipated new features in this map will be tree-climbing (squirrel) and burrowing (badger) mechanics.

[acoustic solar]

Top 10 Things that wont happem

Id prefer martens

I hope EW uses this oppertunity and adds burrows to foxes aswell aswell as adding dachshound as the reserve "weapon " or alongside the map

[vagrant meadow]

is possible

[turbid pond]

(On the Facebook)

Misty highs and lows? That’s definitely all but confirming Scotland

[turbid pond]

The Scottish highlands and the Appalachian mountains used to be the same mountain range when the continents were connected. New England Mountains is set in the Appalachias. This new map will be set in Scotland(or Ireland)….this new map is actually going to be New England Mountains 2.0😭

[vagrant meadow]

It's definitely Scotland

[vagrant meadow]

or revontuli 2.0

My Prediction:

• Species

  • Red Deer ( class 6 ) --> Remaster
  • Wild Boar ( class 5 ) --> Remaster
  • Roe Deer ( class 3 ) --> Remaster
  • Red Fox ( class 2 )
  • Eurasian Badger ( class 2 ) --> New
  • European Hare ( class 1 ) --> Remaster
  • Red-Legged Partridge ( class 1 ) --> New
  • Red Grouse ( class 1 ) --> New
  • Ring-Necked Pheasant ( class 1 )
  • Eurasian Woodcock ( class 1 ) --> New
  • Common Snipe ( class 1 ) --> New
  • Common-Wood Pigeon ( class 1 ) --> New
  • Mallard ( class 1 )
  • Eurasian Teal ( class 1 )
  • Northern Shoveler ( class 1 ) --> New
  • Eurasian Wigeon ( class 1 )
  • Common Pochard ( class 1 ) --> New
  • Pink-Footed Goose ( class 1 ) --> New

• Great One

  • Roe Deer

[rustic sand]

Red Grouse? There is Red Grouse in COTW. I am unsure if EW will classify it as a new species or if it will still be considered the Willow Grouse with the rare variation of plumage.
Gray Partridge still has the opportunity to be added.

I do not think we will see pigeons

Pheasant?! 😣

[heady crystal]

Red Grouse were recently reclassified as a seperate species from Willow Ptarmigan so I would assume they will probably be considered a seperate species

[rustic sand]

We will see

[rustic sand]

Wildcat!

[tidal imp]

isnt it like really endangered?

[heady crystal]

It is, and not every map needs to have species that are protected in the area irl

[rustic sand]

Pine Marten and American Milk? I dude a lot

[vagrant meadow]

Wood pigeon hunting is as famous in Scotland as pheasant, partridge, and grouse hunting.

[rustic sand]

EW didn’t add partridges and quail to Cuatro Colinas, even though it’s inspired by Spain, which is famous for them. It seems EW prefers ducks and geese over ground birds. I also don’t see pigeons or doves in COTW.

[vagrant meadow]

It's never too late to back down, since lately they've been adding many new land birds, and besides, they currently have a completely different rhythm and a different mentality.

[acoustic solar]

We'll see

[rustic sand]

I think the European beaver and otter

[median star]

Glorious...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTkHsJRrA_I

[turbid pond]

Maybe they’re gonna throw a curve ball at us and the new map will have feral highland cows

[vivid whale]

They’re gorgeous but unfortunately I don’t think Scotland has any real feral cattle other than Swona island

[cunning solstice]

It’s to keep it mysterious. They’re not gonna show off something super obvious.

[ionic blade]

Also maybe for fun little Reference to the Big Cat Cryptids of the U.K.

Cougar/Puma/Mountain Lion but that’s really up to them!

[acoustic solar]

Melanistic cougar as a Mission animal

[ionic blade]

Yes With A Remodel and Rework

[vagrant meadow]

I updated the post regarding the reservation location, as it appears to be in Scotland.