#Bring classic into COTW

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open shadow
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I started playing classic some time ago, then stopped played WOTH for some time and now tried Classic.
Issue:

  1. Many people ask features from Clasic to be implemented in COTW and some people would like to see more updates in Classic (visual and gameplay wise)
  2. Team at Classic is supposedly very small which keeps it in maintain mainly field, updates are rare and usually small
    Solution:
    Classic could be revived inside of COTW, which would solve both issues with not that much development effort.
    Implementation can be as difficulty setting, which would change how game is played. It would be different play mode with separate save files
  3. Animals no longer have need zones similar to Classic just roam the map in predefined random manner (this creates more randomness and less predictability of herds)
  4. Spawn can be new every new instance of game as in Classic or as MVP can be similar to COTW, static unless harvest happens
  5. Rarity of rare animals is tuned as it is not possible to grind chosen herds.
  6. Spook factors are changed to match classic more spooky animals
  7. Reworked classic missions are introduced
  8. This mode should have separate economy of your character
  9. Bring trophy shots (COTW would benefit from it as well)
  10. Bring progression of animals and weapons skills instead of common simplified approach, or do trade off instead of starting from 0 even if weapon or animal is similar to already mastered one
  11. Implement bait sites to lure animals (create your own need zones that attract animals)
    I sincerely believe this would be very interesting addition and cover needs of both COTW and Classic, given COTW has large player base and understand that quite a few players would welcome more simulation approach, while keeping current approach for more casual players (I dont consider casual need of thousands of harvests to get Great One)
lethal lynx
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This could help cotw not feeling so arcady, and help immerse people into a more realistic hunting experience, good idea

open shadow
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Proposal is not to rework COTW, but extend it with possibility of Classic gameplay - both games do have similar but still different audience, switching to this approach would allow continuous feature development as these can be used in both games (will be only one game after), I am not aware though of technical struggle and do not think that Classic should be scraped with this as visible from other games some players like nostalgia

agile leaf
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YES

lethal lynx
open shadow
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yeah thats why I would keep grinders with their grind and experiment with new game mode which is already kinda proven to work in classic

cerulean stirrup
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Being able to create our own need zones, that would be fun, we could have bates, traps etc.
For me, it's all about immersion. I'm 100% focused on immersion. If the game manages to send a shiver down my spine from time to time, I'm absolutely hooked.

lethal lynx
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lethal lynx
# open shadow I started playing classic some time ago, then stopped played WOTH for some time ...

I’m saying this while watching a cotw video, the waterbuffaloes being so easy to find so many of when drinking is just easy for it to be boring, it really brings to light this what you said of less predictability of herds, like it should be exciting to find a big herd, finding them all the time just makes the game over time feel like just a shooting animals game. If i can just switch the time and know i can find like 100 of the same species on the same river all the time then where’s the excitement in that? Like especially how they did the tigers they can really learn from, one per drinking zone, the zone disappears when it’s shot a random zone somewhere on the map will appear for the new spawned tiger. The most fun with hunting them is you don’t know where they are, even if they have zones. So if they can do the zone thing like you explained, game can get a lot more fun and immersive

cerulean stirrup
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If I remember correctly, there are often two tigers, a male and a female. Right?

lethal lynx
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vital storm
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I play the classic about 70 hour. Ever the 243 rifle can drop a mule on the spot (lung shot). 270 more powerful then the 243 (+40%). 6.5 even more. All rifles not limited of stupid balance. Brown bear or grizzly can kill if I came close. Injured do the same. Bison, buffalo, boar kill me with one blow. This is that I wanted in cotw. If you tired of being millionaire like in cotw play without purchase em$. It's really challenged. But remember. If you want to hunt like in the classic you will get plus 200% of difficulty. Ask carefully. 😎

open shadow
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yeah whole point of this topic is to bring option for extra immersion into COTW, as topic describes, while keeping dev effort low, change how game is played should be optional and promoted in game client, how they fit that into business model is up to them,
my personal issue is that COTW is very grind based, which can get boring
btw if I am not mistaken single lung shot wont drop animal in classic on spot, double lung will

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lethal lynx
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cold sandal
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Personally id rather keep them as separate games, as well cotw is its own style of game. It would be nice for a remaster of classic though

agile monolith
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I’m just not sure how well it would be received. Keeping the two as different games with different play styles seems better but there’s a lot of things I know cotw would benefit from having that classic already has. A new game like the hunter remastered would be the way to go I would think and then having classic ported for complete offline solo play, and I say the hunter remastered and not classic remastered because I’m old enough to still call this game by its original name and not classic. As for making drastic changes to vote it’s hard to say how it would be received I think most of the cotw ppl already like it the way it is and don’t want drastic changes, like removing need zones.

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cerulean stirrup
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For my part, i never played classic.

open shadow
# cerulean stirrup For my part, i never played classic.

it is best imo compared to titles I have played, I do prefer randomness a lot, but get it that some people prefer grind (rather have rares much further through harvest than to not know where exactly animals will be), but got my first trophy mule in classic and feels great, I started this thread as I like COTW, but it is just too repetitive

vital storm
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# vital storm I like this old graphics.

yeah thats why bringing it into cotw as an option can be beneficial, keeps casual gameplay of COTW, option to play classic like game with a lot of content that accumulated in COTW and graphics and consoles, keeps classic as it is

agile monolith
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vital storm
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If you did spine shot in the hunter classic the animal don't die instantly. It fall and lie. You need finish it off. After cotw the classic looks like an artefact from lost civilization.

open shadow
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kinda, it is suspicious how many features did not make it into COTW, also if you hurt animal leg it will limp while walking

lethal lynx
# open shadow kinda, it is suspicious how many features did not make it into COTW, also if you...

That is in cotw, not on all animals, but in it is on deer and bison. But thinking about it, classic has way less animals on the map, meaning less work and more to focus on other things. Latest map had 8 new species so i suppose there they could have added more. I do think they are losing the love for the game they started out with, i am just theorizing here. But they added what was like enough and they did rework some animals but i think they would have had time to do these changes that people has asked for too, they just didn’t do it. When it comes to other maps with many newer animals like for Sundarpatan but for this map i think as i said there was more time to release other stuff as well

open shadow
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yeah I understand business concept of quantity over quality, just do think that in case of COTW it was neglected way too much, I do think that they should invest time into improving hunting of specific species one by one, probably doing more research and implementing new mechanics (items - that can be sold as DLC) so hunting resembles IRL hunting way more, keep the scope small and iterate over it, I am 100% confident that DLC for realistic deer hunting for example will have great success if handled properly,
mainly it should differ significantly to hunt deer from hunting bear for example, now game generalizes that too much - find zone, manage zones, find new zones for solo animals and repeat - takes away thrill of hunt itself

lethal lynx
open shadow
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wai we got feeders in COTW? I havent played for a while and checked just few recent patch notes…
Regarding zones I do believe it would be best to fully remove them, it can be replaced by system of tracks (more tracks) that actually indicate animal is/was present in area, there is a chance it will return but you dont know when

lethal lynx
open shadow
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yeah wouldnt even notice that feeder in video, until you said it

lethal lynx
vital storm
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Don't forget. The hunt in hunter classic is much more more difficult than cotw. If devs will bring all from this it will be "Pain". Especially for newbies dreaming about "easy rare" and the large grinders community. Maybe many of you forgot but aggression of predators weren't always like this in cotw. I personally deleted the cotw from 3 year and thousands hours of playing because of predators. But many of cotw players unlikely to be ready for such level of aggression now. Feeders and trail cams they will give. "Pain" no.

lethal lynx
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lethal lynx
# vital storm We all already understood this. Devs don't do anything if it doesn't bring fast ...

Yeah i get that, hopefully those changes are coming, we have to remember it isn’t our game, we are involved very much but we can’t make all the decisions they have a roadmap for their game and it’s their decision to add our suggestions to the game, and from many different perspectives at that. So we shouldn’t be surprised when our suggestions doesn’t get added. Look now feeders wasn’t popular but they are getting added, while Africa is the most popular isn’t ready according to them. They are the ones in control

open shadow
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yeah hopefully, classic for me until then 😅

lethal lynx
open shadow
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same but on PS5

open shadow
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at least now we know that 1 other feature from classic will make it to COTW 😄

open shadow
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tbh I do miss deer feeders in classic, spamming callers in highly inconvinient when static hunting a spot