Salzweisen Park Backfill?

[dusky quail]

I know that Salzweisen is a new map, being less than a year old, but I feel as if there’s a lot of missing species on the map.

For example, Roe Deer, which are one of the smallest deer in the game, could fit well on Salz with a smaller population than would normally go on a map.

European Hares would also make a great addition to the map, as they are only found on Cuatro Colinas, despite being widely distributed in Europe and West Asia.

Hazel Grouse would make for a fun addition to the map, seeing as they are a tough species to find on Revontuli Coast, perhaps they could have a small population on Salzweisen Park that could give people who enjoy bird hunting more opportunities to find this elusive species.

TLDR, the species list:

Roe Deer (C3) (with remodel)
European Hare (C1) (with remodel)
Hazel Grouse (C1)
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[worthy wigeon]

Love roe deer, I'm all for more places to hunt them

[placid wadi]

Maybe some new grouse but i think the map has enough animals to not feel clutters, but i suppose one more small game couldn’t hurt. Roe deer don’t fit in here imo just go to Hirschfelden

[tepid nexus]

Nutria would fit quite well on both Salzwiesen and Mississippi considering they are invasive to both the Southern US and Europe

[worthy wigeon]

Considering how roe deer thrive in farmland its extremely weird they aren't here, you can argue against fallow or even Sika but the lack of Roe deer is a little weird for such fertile farms

[tawny pasture]

Nerf salzwesien park

[dusky quail]

I wouldn’t mind Nutria, but personally I think they’d only work well on Mississippi as there isn’t exactly deep water for them on Salz (assuming they have the Beaver mechanics)

[dusky quail]

I intentionally left Sika off the list because apparently there’s a ton of people that think they shouldn’t be on the map. Idk why, seeing as the Holstein Elbe Marsh (where Salzweisen is based on) is a stronghold for Sika Deer in Germany.

[worthy wigeon]

Personally id love to see Sika and Roe deer both on Salz, it would be enough to get me to buy the map. Particularly bowhunting sikas I that swamp

[dusky quail]

Same here, alongside Hazel Grouse (mostly just because I think they’re cool but I hate hunting them on Rev with how scarce they are)

[tepid nexus]

I would love to see those 2 species alongside Greater Rhea since the German population originates from a farm escape in Schleswig-Holstein and have been considered huntable since 2018 in Germany

[worthy wigeon]

They're both extremely interesting animals but with sika in particular they always spawn in the most thick and tangled crap on my map and I don't like hunting water zones for everything in the game

[dusky quail]

I wouldn’t mind seeing a small Rhea population eventually, so long as they also add them to Parque Fernando

[worthy wigeon]

Slightly larger turkey with less interesting feathers. . .

Im interested

[placid wadi]

True, but it doesn’t need them imo, there are farms on Hirschfelden. We have to remember that it is a game and even if the animal is common at a place it doesn’t have to be if there is a map on it’s location, for variety reasons and difference from the reserves. This principle can also be applied to every moose location

[worthy wigeon]

True, but moose are on like different 6 maps and roe deer get what? 2 or 3?

Sika are only one one

[placid wadi]

Yeah Sika deer could be on more maps, it could actually be on Hirschfelden, but the main reason is the map is small enough, adding more creatures to Salzwiesen especially in the forested and rolling hills areas would get cluttered

[worthy wigeon]

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Roe deer would be more toward the forests and fields, sika would be more along the swamps or river flats. Neither population would be huge either

[placid wadi]

So like what 4 of each?

See if Salzwiesen wasn’t so much water there’d be more space for the deer to roam, which there really isn’t much at all of on Salzwiesen

[worthy wigeon]

I think you're overestimating how many animals are in an area. Like 20 of each species would look fairly normal inn area of that size even with the small game already there

[placid wadi]

Maybe if the map was bigger

[worthy wigeon]

Its really not that small, its a quarter of a normal map

[tawny pasture]

Normal maps are 64km² and salz is 1/3 the size of a normal map and if my math is correct, that puts us at 21km²!!! Or 5,000 acres… plenty of space if you ask me

But I also understand if that isn’t the devs original vision.

[hazy merlin]

I think if they added the Reeve's Muntjac that could be a great fit, but I think Roe Deer would have been a nice touch as well. And while the map is nice for bird hunting, a little bit larger map with more wetlands than ocean would have been better for waterfowl, and allowed deer to roam around.

[tawny pasture]

In all honesty, my biggest issue with salz is the lack of new birds.

[dusky quail]

Yeah, I feel you there. Gadwall and Ferruginous were both really cool and ducks that I really wanted, but it would’ve been cool to get some kind of Merganser, Brant Geese, or Barnacle Geese over the Graylags and Tundra Bean Geese.

[arctic vigil]

One Problem i have wirh Salzwiesen Park the farmland feels pretty empty . The only Things you find there are grouse and Pheasant some ocasionel racoons or Racoon Dogs and those damn geese (wich the map has way to much of ).

Adding Euro hares and some roe deer to that area would realy help out.

[tawny pasture]

Eurasian collared dove🙏

[dusky quail]

Doves would be nice, especially seeing as EW isn’t afraid to implement entirely new mechanics to the game. Hopefully if they ever add doves to the game, they bring some to Parque. It feels so empty without them.

[little hatch]

I 100% agree , it would also be nice to see canada goose. They are also in germany

also greater front whited goose would also be cool to see

[tepid nexus]

I would rather see Canada Goose on more North American maps when we eventually get some new ones (Plus they are present on Hirschfelden)

Its partially why I don’t have to much of an issue with Canada Geese on Askiy Ridge 🇨🇦

[placid wadi]

I totally agree with this

[worthy wigeon]

Um, other than a map like the Olympic peninsula or south east Alaska with Sitka blacktails id rather not get more NA maps. And that's coming from a dude in Wyoming

[dusky quail]

Personally I think we don’t need any more maps in North America that are full sized (aside from maybe somewhere in Southern Mexico like the Yucatán and Greenland/Nunavut for Arctic Big Game).

Small Game maps are missing though, and seeing as we only have 4 upland game species (Pheasant, Turkey, Dusky Grouse, and Bobwhite Quail) from North America out of the over a dozen we could have is kinda disappointing. Not to mention the numerous ducks and geese were missing such as Specklebelly Geese, Eiders, Redheads, Canvasbacks, etc.

[worthy wigeon]

Id accept Anticosti island

[dusky quail]

Isn’t that the island in Quebec?

[worthy wigeon]

Where the deer killed off the black bears, yes

[tepid nexus]

Yeah its famous for white-tailed deer

[dusky quail]

Truthfully I think we have enough whitetail maps for the foreseeable future (if I was in charge it would be forever but I know that won’t happen). We have 6 maps for them now.

[placid wadi]

We don’t really need small game maps only if they do a good blend like they did on Askiy, though missing maybe two small games imo

[dusky quail]

Literally all we’re missing in North America outside of the Arctic and Tropics is Small Game. We have every large game animal in North America aside from the Tule Elk, Stone and Dall Sheep, Polar Bear, Musk Ox, Walrus, and Jaguar.

Hell, Tule Elk could go on a map that’s maybe half the size and is set in California, and then we’d have all the Elk subspecies. You could throw Quail and tons of waterfowl on that map, plus things like Opossums and Badgers.

[placid wadi]

Well don’t expect every single small game from the continent, because there’s always gonna be people asking for improvements or new idea, for the most recent map 4 new small game was added, 3 being waterfowl, so if enough people ask for it we could get some good backfills but most of America except B.C and the Arctic already has maps so, but small maps only focused on small game i don’t think are a great idea, it’s better to as i said to blend everything in a map like Revontouli, but like three more medium game for a map like that. Though that many backfills most likely won’t happen for America, so logically i expect a blend map, but hopefully it could have more small game

[dusky quail]

Obviously I don’t expect every small game animal, but small game animals in North America are HEAVILY unrepresented in game. I genuinely don’t see a point to adding another North American mixed map unless it’s in the Arctic or the tropics, because we’ve covered every biome, most locations, and essentially all of the big game on the continent.

[placid wadi]

Yeah exactly it’s pretty pointless so we’d really have to make our voice heard with that one: small game massive backfill update for North America

[neat dew]

Salz would have been perfect for new class 2 species like euro badgers. I like having a more open map for raccoon hunting but I wish there were more animals like that personally

[placid wadi]

They should just add european badgers to hirschfelden, where they also should add mouflon

[rustic jungle]

I agree on European hare it would be great, I feel like roe deer is to big and hazel grouse are just not anywhere near Schleswig Holstein the state the map is set in. How about gray patridge, common eiders, scoters, badgers or barnacle geese?

[dusky quail]

Black Grouse aren’t found in Schleswig-Holstein either, so I don’t see that being an issue, and Roe Deer are the 3rd smallest deer in the game after Musk Deer and Muntjac.

I made this list as species that are in game that could come to Salzweisen, but I definitely wouldn’t mind seeing Partridge, Badgers, Scoters, or Barnacle Geese, although I’d personally like to see Eiders on a more Arctic based map as I generally think of them as Arctic birds.

[rustic jungle]

Well I've been to schleßwig a lot this summer and eiders were more common then mallards so for me there really a north sea staple, black grouse are found in the lüneburger Heide which is in northern germany and generally also around the area especially historically

[dusky quail]

Hazel Grouse have been seen as far north as Lower Saxony, so it shouldn’t be much of a stretch to put them in Schleswig Holstein

[rustic jungle]

I feel like this a clear difference, however I wouldn't be rioting if they added em, just think there's a bunch of better fits

Black grouse 4 Comparison

[dusky quail]

Agreed, there are better fits, but I’d say they’re still a better fit than Capercaillie which a lot of people wanted on the map for some reason

[topaz umbra]

@dusky quail to be honest they should Backfill Salsweisen but with some new upland bird yk

@dusky quail Maybe red legged partridges or gray ones

@dusky quail or just add the existing quail in the map

[raw tree]

@dusky quail Hi 😝

[tepid nexus]

Stubble Quail and Northern Bobwhite Quails are not found in Germany but the Stubble Quail is related to the Common Quail which are found across much of Europe

[topaz umbra]

@tepid nexus thx for the info buddy👌

[frosty birch]

I love this so much schrader keep up the good work

[dusky quail]

Seeing as this is a backfill, I only went with returning species, but there are various new species that would have been great on Salzweisen Park.

Chief among these is the Eurasian Badger, a very common animal throughout temperate Europe and would have made a perfect edition to the map.

Another good species would be the Barnacle Goose, alongside its cousin, the Brant. Both of these would have made better editions than the Graylag and Tundra Bean Goose as they’re essentially coastal geese, who would have been at home all across the map.

The final new species I believe should be added to Salzweisen is the Common Quail and the Gray Partridge. Both are very common game birds throughout Germany and would have made Salz an upland bird haven like Revontuli Coast.