(RULES ARCHIVE)

[vast relic]

ARCHIVED - PLEASE READ THE PINNED POST

🗨️ AFTER YOU'VE WRITTEN A POST 🗨️

• Discussing is great, but NOT arguing or attacking. Be civil with disagreements and respect others' opinions
• DO NOT BUMP. We consider anything unrelated to discussing and expanding on the idea to be bumping, including writing the number of upvotes or telling people to bump/upvote or even celebrating the amount of upvotes.
• Please don't clutter threads by replying to the original post to "bring people to the top". There is an up-arrow icon at the top right of the thread when you are scrolled down that will bring you to the top of the post. If something else needs pinning, tag a mod.

[obtuse remnant]

are things that arent feedback or suggestions allowed here?
like animal of the day from ikog
if not could there be a channel for things like that?

[vast relic]

This is a good point - I don't think that belongs here but we allow it until we can make a better place for it

[obtuse remnant]

alright good to know thank you

what does the tag community mean and will anything be done against bumping suggestions?

[atomic pagoda]

Does that include Interesting Africa (and the other continents) Finds as well?

Also I love that the rules are here now, the feedback has become a bit of a Wild West

[delicate prairie]

Yea like there are tons of countries in Africa where we can go (and surprisingly haven't gone yet) so can't we make a suggestion of another country because some other African country is already suggested?

Plus bumping is what keeps the idea alive, we fortunately have a lot of new players join the community on Discord every week, and if there is an amazing idea from last year like https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1195097534239088720 that doesn't get bumped, I can almost guarantee the new members aren't gonna scroll all the way down for a whole year worth of posts to find it and support it if they want to

[atomic pagoda]

Yeah, things get can get buried very quickly

[robust rampart]

The Africa Big Five has already been recorded. I remember Jaxy saying you are wasting your time bumping it at this point.

Im pretty sure most of the big reserve ideas have been recorded. He said its usually after 3 months or so from the beginning date of the post. It sounds like they are just interested in only new ideas or content that is actually relevant to the suggestion.

im not trying to be mean but I dont think they want 1000s of comments of how good something tatse to shift through on the suggestion. That's what im understanding from this.

[worldly pulsar]

so no bumps and no discussion ? Just up or down votes .... Oh and no weekly streams .... that sounds like a good time ....

[robust rampart]

I believe she said you can discuss but I belive they want it relevant to the suggestion. In other words something that actually helps them make the suggestion. Not about how good something tates lol. Don't think that helps in the digital pixel world. That's what im understanding. Could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

[cedar walrus]

No bumping, we’re cooked. 😞

[lilac surge]

I don’t see how bumping wouldn’t help but upvotes would? Upvotes are almost meaningless when said post is buried by new ones.

[worldly pulsar]

seems to me as if bumping would be relevant to the suggestion if your trying to get others to participate in the discourse?

[robust rampart]

Even if has been recorded like Jaxy said?

[robust rampart]

You can get people involved by adding something new to the suggestion instead of saying bump?

[worldly pulsar]

That's the point of my earlier post ... we don't always know if it's been recorded .... How many votes does it need before it's worthy of being recorded ....

Something like Africa 2.0 its obvious but a post that gets 20, 50 or 100 upvotes ????

[robust rampart]

Jaxy said around 3 months or so from the time the post was made. Its not number of votes but time frame

[worldly pulsar]

well since Jaxy is no longer around to lend guidance .... I would be interested to know if that rule still applies ....

[robust rampart]

Im pretty sure she's not saying you can't bring the post to the top. They just want it to be done with something constructive and relevant to post to help them make it. Not just spelling the word bump to bring it to the top.

[signal bolt]

I just use a period and then delete it, does the same with without saying Bump

[robust rampart]

Im curious of what their thoughts on this form of bumping is.

[delicate prairie]

I think it is better than keep writing bump, cause that just turns into spam eventually

[robust rampart]

Most definitely. The ones that just have bump spelled out a hundred times crack me up 😂

[robust rampart]

I will say if it's over the 3 month mark as jaxy said and it's been recorded, what's the point of a ghost bump if there's nothing new you can add to the suggestion and the upvotes are pointless after time of recording per Jaxys stream.

Couldn't you at least show some biomes the map could have or something. Just feels pointless according to the rules that have been previously laid out.

If someone is ghost bumping a suggestion that has already been recorded, aren't they just taking away from other new suggestions that haven't had their spotlight yet.

Why overtake a new suggestion with an already recorded suggestion unless it's something that could actually be productive in the making of the suggestion.

[outer vale]

Can we make joke posts?

[vast relic]

The community tag is for things outside of the game like the discord, social media, events, etc. I'd rather have a tag for it than make an entire new channel or have no place for people to suggest things to the community team.

[vast relic]

What do you mean by interesting finds?

[vast relic]

Of course you can make a new post if it's a unique idea. Africa is HUGE

[vast relic]

The same person writing "bump" over and over again isn't real engagement and it incorrectly makes it look like a popular idea when it's not. Adding to an idea or continuing to discuss it is not what we mean when we say "bumping"

[atomic pagoda]

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1336821988718809119
it’s a thread I made

[vast relic]

A post idea is never "useless" to discuss no matter how old it is.

Even if we've seen or recorded your idea, continuous engagement and increase in upvotes can still legitimize it over time.

[vast relic]

Ah right, this one vaguely looks like a suggestion still, animals, weapons, etc that you hope the devs consider in the future, right?

[atomic pagoda]

That, and just to have a place for those. In the African big 5 thread things get buried so fast that it then takes forever to scroll through to find it.

[vast relic]

50 upvotes means 50 unique individuals want the same feature. The same 1 person writing bump 50 times means that 1 person is very passionate about the idea.

[trim hollow]

True but it helps the suggestion to be seen by other people, even the Arctic thread get’s dry at times and then it goes very far down on the feedback list

[vast relic]

If people also want the same feature they can search it and upvote or comment months after it's been posted, that's when it would be pushed again to the top. That's how the feedback forum is supposed to work.

If I could bully discord into organizing posts by upvotes trust me I would 😅

But using bumps as a way to keep an old idea alive doesn't mean there's genuine widespread interest and that's the problem with it.

[trim hollow]

Noted i suppose that makes sense also, idk if i can ask this here but do you guys intend to improve communication between players and devs anytime soon? Because there are a lot of questions that need answering

[outer vale]

Could you please answer my question ^

[obtuse remnant]

i wonder that too but i have a feeling its gonna be a no

[forest summit]

❌ bump, bump, bump…
✅ discussion, interesting images, ideas, data, and insights

[bronze kayak]

No answer is also an answer

[vast relic]

Joke comments are absolutely fine. Entire joke posts though, please don't!

[vast relic]

Exaaaactly 😌

[trim hollow]

Rip landmines post

[bronze kayak]

Not even on April fools 🥺

[obtuse remnant]

very serious post

[vast relic]

-# I kinda like the landmines post though 💀

[bronze kayak]

I mean its still there, we could still use it to joke around

[vast relic]

If it's under 5000 layers of irony and looks serious at a glance I'll allow it 😆

[bronze kayak]

Landmines dlc confirmed ✅

[obtuse remnant]

i was also wondering if the slowmode could be a little bit less

[bronze kayak]

So are Things like #1356639754254553309 message are okay ?

[vast relic]

It's really hard for our mods to cover so many threads and 1 minute is already quite short so it's not gonna change.

[obtuse remnant]

alright i understand

[obtuse remnant]

maybe there could be a 'please read before posting' post in #1062059141436297246 ?

[bronze kayak]

Also since this is about the Feedback section, are the Support messages important?

I mean do only posts that got a message by one of the Support members have a Chance of being added to the game ?

[robust rampart]

What about ghost bumps and continuous talk about stuff in a suggestion that isn't relevant to making of the suggestion just to keep it at the top. Is that a full go?

[worldly pulsar]

As stated earlier I would think ghost bumps maybe once ever few days or once a week would be okay ... but some people just bump the same thread constantly ....

This is kind of my rule of thumb on my posts are to only bump maybe 2 posts at a time and no more than every 3 days or once a week .... Is that too excessive?

As long as the ghost bump is seeking to invite more discussion on the issue then in my mind that's a good thing .... As long as it's not overly excessive ....

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I will say this about these rules .... If we cant bring post back up (bump) after a certain period of time then the feedback channel is going to just become another version of General chat ....

Because there are really only so many game related ideas and suggestions .... And if those few decent Ideas are already beat to death ... Then there wont be much else to discuss ....

I fear cotw-feedback will devolve into nothing but landmine posts and other such nonsense ....

[robust rampart]

Agreed! Nothing wrong the occasional ghost bump but it gets abused and it's not fair to some newer suggestions that was just posted. Then I see some threads go on for hours about nothing relevant to the suggestion. Its basically used for general chat. If upvotes still matter as Vivi said then how is that fair and allowed?

[outer vale]

Hmmm, is it possible to get a joke section we could use? Humor brings the community together!

[bronze kayak]

Or like a whole Community section where we can post stuff regatding changes ans improvements for the server, or as you said, for jokes

[delicate prairie]

@vast relic I'm curious, what's your favorite post/suggestion here on Discord? 👀
P.S. we all know if it is your favorite doesn't mean we are getting it 🙂

[signal bolt]

So for example bumping with images of animals or guns or something like me making Great One or animal furs for a concept? I know everyone is kinda mad at me for the Mule Deer but that was something I was passionate about

[vast relic]

I'll work on updating our support channel soon, I just need to get some ducks in a row first.

[vast relic]

No there is no correlation between what official responses you get from our team and what is most likely to be added in the game.

[vast relic]

Discord may not be the best place to have a feature/feedback list that people can vote on, but it's what we use right now, so we need ways to make it manageable.

We're not saying you can't add to your idea and discuss, but we want to then see a back and forth then and not the same person writing bump every day. There's a big range of gray area between that, but I'm not going to put a number on it.

Also no one is getting banned for not following these rules to a tee, we just might move you or remove your post if it will make this channel more organized and easier to manage.

[vast relic]

Please don't ghost bump and avoid talking about irrelevant topics. As I said above though, this isn't bannable unless you do something crazy lol.

[vast relic]

I'm thinking of ways we can still keep the fun threads alive, like the geoguessr one for instance :)

In general though, anything you suggest to EW imo should be entirely separate from the fun community stuff

[vast relic]

I don't see anything wrong with you doing this. Also I think your concepts are really friggin cool and I love seeing them

[bronze kayak]

So if a post doesent get a message like this, it still has the same chance like a post with this message right ?

[vast relic]

All posts are noticed, not just the ones we respond to.

[bronze kayak]

Okay thank i was wondering about that a long time

[deft sorrel]

When there's just chains of hundreds of bumps - is it something we are okay to 'clean' so to speak? Idk about anyone else, but scrolling through a forest of
bump
bump
bump
bump
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absolutely kills any motivation I had to read anything about the post and will have me disinclined to even begin trawling through it

[vast relic]

Absolutely, please clean when you see them :)

[atomic pagoda]

When ever I bumped I would delete it for that exact reason

Or I make the bump related to the topic, like in the Roosevelt Collection, with a photo of him

[deft sorrel]

tbh, I like when the bump has like - relation to the post (personally)
It not only brings a new facet of convo up - but it necro's the post

[zealous valley]

I am planning to resume working on map concepts, as well as other creative ideas, and I would like to establish a central space for discussion and feedback. My proposal is to create a single “community” post that would serve as the main hub where members can share advice, provide constructive feedback, and potentially influence which ideas I choose to develop further.

Rather than posting separately for each new idea, my intention is to keep all discussions and updates within this one post to maintain consistency and organization. Would it be acceptable to use a single ongoing post as the designated area for community input and conversation regarding my projects?

[karmic thunder]

Very understandable new rules, will.make sure to not bump my posts with unnecessary things again.

[opaque nebula]

If discussions are getting very long is it ok to reply the the top of the thread to bring it down so folks have a quick way to get to the start of the discussion? (I get there’s pins but often there are important ideas and discussions that dont get pinned)

[signal bolt]

Thank you Vivi 😭

[sweet drift]

@vast relic did you see my latest post? If so, could you share your thoughts and send it to the rest of the team please?

[nimble vault]

so, do active posts no longer pop up to the top whenever someone leaves a new comment on them? Has anyone else noticed this?

[deft sorrel]

Are you sure they are being sorted by "recent activity"?

[nimble vault]

you know what that actually explains it perfectly, I had it set to sort by "date posted" for some reason. It was just discord being weird and changing my settings I guess.

[sweet drift]

@vast relic if you wanna know what I’m talking about it’s about how It’s Time To “Fix, Remaster/Remodel, Overhaul Rework and Population Reset” Cougars/Pumas/Mountain Lions!

[deft sorrel]

It does this regularly! I find it most frequently occurs after a discord update

[nimble vault]

thanks for your help

[delicate prairie]

Now it's automatically gonna be like that for everyone, so doubt the new members will see much the old good posts to get more likes on them ...

[lilac surge]

Yeah, I think discord did an update

[zealous valley]

@vast relic My bad for the ping I just wanted to get a confirmation on whether this would be ok to post in https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1067511606373785730 ?

[bronze kayak]

Or the Server staff changed it to be Standard, but idk if that is possible

[lilac surge]

If that’s true, that is really annoying and they should probably change it back

[deft sorrel]

as I mentioned above - whenever discord rolls out an update it resets the forum settings on my end. I have to manually put it back to recently active - so I wouldn't so much blame EW for that.

[lilac surge]

I’m not #1409912078914818049 message

[deft sorrel]

bueno - at least one person 🥲

[woven mango]

I still think EW should add additional folders to better organize the discord threads. Ex. "1. Weapons, 2. Gear, 3. Locations, 4. Features, etc." Instead of a general page that has everyone's posts clumped together. To me this would assist with the clutter & make it easier to find related topics. It's just my thoughts to help organize everything. As an individual that despises clutter, I prefer to keep things organized an easy to sort through if needed.

[vast relic]

We would prefer that you keep your different ideas separate so that we can see what people are really upvoting. Thank you for asking!

[vast relic]

This is why we have tags - You can filter posts by tag and it makes it easier to find the topic you're looking for. We'll do our best to also make sure posts have the correct tags. Making a separate forum for each topic would actually create clutter as well and naturally leave out some topics as well, so there's no perfect solution to this organization issue.

We made it auto-sort to date posted to curb bumping for now. It's not necessarily permanent, but we need people to use the forum as intended and search for the topics they want to look at instead of kind of "marketing" their idea and pushing people to bump.

I know this also encourages people to do new posts, but just... please don't 😭 and bear with us for now

[zealous valley]

Thank you for taking the time to reply. I have another question: if the original post consisted of polls and questions directed toward the community to gather feedback and suggestions for improvements, would that be acceptable? I was also considering the possibility of including each new idea I come up with in a single post, so that all of them are easily accessible in one place.

[woven mango]

You do have a point that it could leave some topics to be misplaced in a way. I do appreciate the reply & the effort. I just figured I'd pitch the idea to help sort topics on the side bar just like how cotw-general, cotw-support, & cotw-feedback are. Instead of just feedback as a general hub I figured it would be possible to add specific channels to better sort through topics esp. Reserve ideas since the general search uses key wording & the tags vary far & in between since many suggestions utilize the same tags. With that said would it be possible to extend the list of tag options to better place the postings? • Edit: Never mind, I just noticed new tags were added 😋 been out of the loop for a while. Again, thank you for your time. Hopefully the community edits their posts with the proper tags to make it easier to look through.

[vast relic]

Please don't do a master post for your ideas and simply do one idea per post. Additionally, if your idea more or less is already in the forum somewhere, remember to add on to that post instead of creating a new one. Having people answer questions and things is fine though!

[smoky crag]

Does anyone know if we can list all of the Posts we've created? The new Tags can be added, if you can find them

[woven mango]

@smoky crag Has a point here the history keeps track of the thread posts you reply to but you'll have to dig to find your threads specifically since the search doesn't find threads with your handle (username). But its likely a discord issue not an EW setting for the forum. In the past since the side bar limits you to a point of followed threads, you'll most likely have to dig in your history to locate your older threads unless someone in the community finds it an adds a reply bumping it up from the depths 😅

I've had to do this quite a few times since every time you reply to a post for the 1st time it automatically has you set to follow the thread & it'll replace your side bar topics. Either unfollow threads to open your follow bar an your old threads might go back to your side bar? But dont quote me as changes may apply with updates & GM changes to the forum. But again I'd advise searching through your history pages as they are dated. Its a pain but thats how I found my old posts unless theirs another way I'm unaware of bc the search doesn't always find your keyword as I found out yesterday 😪

[vast relic]

Our team is already struggling with the clutter of this forum (we always have). If everyone had a master-post of their own threads it would... not help the situation.

How about keeping notes in a private server/google doc/etc.? I have my own private server that I use to keep notes and it's pretty nice. Of course ideally the forums feature would a bit more sophisticated but sadly it is what it is, you can't search by post author right now.

[trim hollow]

Can i ask one thing? How come no audio issues were resolved last patch? And also some requests about the ammunition and the 30-30 the community have been very vocal about, i’m just asking because it seemed odd those weren’t in the patch notes. If you aren’t available to give me an answer at least you’ll know we are wondering

[woven mango]

@vast relic By the way thanks again for adding the new tag topics, this really helps alot & hopefully the community will apply them as intended to assist with the clutter issue for both the community & the devs 😁.

[vast relic]

@nimble vault and everyone else, feel free to tag me somewhere or ask the author if tags are wrong in a post

To find a species rework/remodel, you can use the tags species and rework/remodel together :) - I at least made sure all the posts that Fuzion linked in the master-thread are tagged correctly and will now be deleting the master-thread.

[vast relic]

Of course! I am happy to make things a bit easier for everyone but this place is still very much a WIP so we will gladly take feedback for improving the forum overall.

I wanna make it clear that while these forums are for YOU to express your ideas, it also becomes much less effective to communicate your ideas to us when we have to scroll through 1000 "bump" messages or break our heads trying to find every single one of the "Africa 2" ideas to be able to actually see your opinions. I hope we can move the forum away from the trend of people marketing their own ideas and be much more collaborative :)

[vast relic]

This is something for a Q&A - I can't confirm when the next Q&A will happen right now but we wanna make it happen ^^

[trim hollow]

Gotcha, thanks for answering

[woven mango]

I understand, an issue I see often is the text limits. More often than not its easier to post a new thread post using the heading & a few reply boxes to present ones take on a suggestion than it is to text cap then have replies between them. I'll admit even in my reserve concept I had to make a msg link "table of contents" since the key points are scattered in the replies. Since it req. Admin permissions to pin msg's, as the OP I'm not able to add pins to the details so I had to improvise if the Dev's were to look at it 😅. But I get where you're coming from an honestly, I think folks in the community are in the mindset that if a post doesn't get upvotes it wont get considered or due to the way discord pushes posts down ppl are also afraid their posts aren't being seen bc its buried under new listings or heavily replied posts. In my case I have no issue with post links being added in my post & I'd gladly pin them if I was able to, to act as bookmarks to easily sort through the possible 1000+ replies 😅

[woven mango]

To the community: I'd suggest this idea to everyone that if you have key points to lay it out by making a "table of contents" with msg links unless you have permissions to apply pins. Furthermore, I see no harm if others in the community share their thread links to your thread if its related or similar. To me this only adds to the possible features that could get considered even if its different than your own. Vivi added new tags so I'd also advise editing your posts with them to allow the Dev's & Community to see them & to better organize the forum as a whole. •To: @vast relic again, I appreciate your time & replies on the subject. Hopefully with the added tags it will make sorting through the masses easier 🤝 .

[deft sorrel]

I guess, my only concern with adding YOUR thread to someone elses, without asking or having prior permission to do so.. Is kinda like hijacking THEIR post for visibility and traction.
Like I could understand the why, but also it's kind of insulting and bullies people to notice you when it was something else/someone elses thought entirely.. if that makes sense?
Maybe when Vivi is back at work tomorrow (its 8pm here afterall) she has some better input

At least, as an outsider looking in, it would look like a thread is being hijacked to me.

[nimble vault]

Thanks for adding the tags, that should make things a lot easier to sort through. I created that master thread as a last-ditch effort to try and keep all of those rework/remodel posts from getting buried permanently (which could easily happen without anyone bumping them or sending any new messages in there for a while).

Just one question though: is there anything wrong with making posts that contain links to multiple other threads? I'm thinking of this post as an example:#1394550264995909772

Having one place where everyone can post their map ideas, or ideas for remodels, or something else that's a catch-all for a certain type of feedback, can be very useful for getting an overview of what suggestions the community has come up with. It also makes it easier to avoid making duplicate posts because it condenses all of that information into one place. It also avoids the issues that come with tags being used inconsistently. They can be a very helpful resource.

Is the team against having master-threads in general, or are there situations where they might be allowed for the sake of accessibility?

[woven mango]

I see your point & view on that but I'm not sure what else can be done if we're trying to consolidate same topic posts. Sure ppl can comment, agree, & disagree on threads as expected however I dont see a solution to duping topics & their own take on it without creating a similar post. Like Africa for example I know of 6 various map requests that are for the most part similar for species but the initial locations are different. I just dont see another way to have the community be more collaborative if ppl get offended for sharing a similar thread on the same topic?! In my case sure I have my own concept & direction for a Wyoming reserve that I took other threads into account creating it but I'm not offended if others add to it or share their post links that contribute to it. If the Dev's look at the post they would have my Table of Contents with my features & the tributed links I added towards the design. If ppl added their links to it to me, it would allow the Dev's to have additional options to review in relation. I mean at the end of the day they decide but if I were them, it would be more convenient to resource content if they're in one place or rather fewer need to bump threads. I'm glad I have 93 👍 votes but it could have 2k & still not release if that makes sense 😅 but your right Vivi might be able to add to that note. All 'n' all I too would like to find a mutual ground to reduce the blatant bumps & clutter even though I'll admit I'm guilty of it assuming that my listings weren't being seen due to being buried, however. With the added tags I have less worry of it being noticed if it shows up when searching by the added tag(s) by both the community & the dev team.

[vast relic]

In our view, the goal with making a post for a new idea shouldn't be about the details of your specific vision, only the headline. If someone makes a post that they want an Africa 2 map, the upvotes should apply to that general concept and not all the nitty gritty details of the specific post. There can be one post for "Africa 2" and many comments with different ideas and discussions. No matter what, devs are gonna read the comments. No one is getting their entire idea with all the details taken, it's only used as inspiration to see what people are interested in. So for us there's no point in having separate threads for the same general concept just to elevate someone else's specific species that they wanted for instance. And that's why we aren't really a fan of master-threads, we'd like things to be consolidated and tagged properly instead.

There isn't a straight-forward way to make this system perfect right now but that's okay we just want to make it more manageable for now and hopefully move threads for less-relevant topics to #🦌︴general

To be clear, what I mean by that isn't that the details don't matter, they are super important and we absolutely love seeing your creativity shine! What I mean is that ideas shouldn't be considered different enough to warrant an entire new post just because they aren't exactly the same. And if we can manage to curb bumps entirely and use the pin feature, there shouldn't be a worry that your idea isn't seen just because it's not an entire new post

[vast relic]

I've edited the rules a bit to be clearer - one thing I didn't spread info on in the first version is that this thing exists at the top right of every thread!

[obtuse remnant]

@vast relic not sure if this is the right place to ask but what is the reason behind there also being a 1 minute slowmode for the cotw support channel?

[vast relic]

slow-mode is in the forums because it's difficult for mods to moderate in these forum posts and to keep it from turning into several micro-gen chats

[obtuse remnant]

alright thanks for the answer, anybody else don't see the emojis here?

[vast relic]

yeah it only shows in gallery mode lol

[obtuse remnant]

awh

[opaque nebula]

Huh weird I don’t have that, maybe because I’m on mobile?

[sweet drift]

Hey Vivi can I ask a question since gray wolves got their Remaster and Rework, do you think it’s possible for “Cougars/Pumas/Mountain Lions, Grizzly Bears, and Coyotes” to Get the Treatment Next?!

[pale kite]

Hello Vivi, I red this post and agrees with it. After I looked for what I wanted to post about, the thread I found was interesting to me but it's title is well... not very precise and undescriptive.... although it's a great thread in my opinion :

• "Trophy-Lodge Remastered"

I would like to know If it's okay to tag the Original Poster of this post to ask him or her to change the title for it to be more descriptive and that the general audience know more about what that thread contains and what improvements and changes we'd like to be made.

Thank you for your time and have a great day 🙂

[true thistle]

what happened i cant bump my posts now

[bronze kayak]

Bumping is not allowed

[true thistle]

WHAT

[vast relic]

Yes that's good, you can actually tag me or a mod as well to change it :)

[pale kite]

Alrighty

[true thistle]

im sad

But this means the old popular posts go to waste

[signal bolt]

we just need to have conversations to keep them alive, even if they are redundant or repeat what we said, like how we want stone sheep or polars bears or africa 2.0, etc. We just need to converse

[deft sorrel]

They also don't really go to waste.
If they were already just being bumped, the convo was stale on them and no progression was happening - yk?

And if they're clearly popular, they've likely been noted and marked down as it were

[true thistle]

But like my point is no one will see it since you can only see posted ones now

[vast relic]

That's not true. Since we don't allow duplicate posts, people with the same idea will need to migrate to the highest-voted thread on the same topic. People are meant to use the search bar and tag filters to find ideas.

Old ideas are not gone to waste. They are still kept track of, especially the really popular ones. But bumping makes it difficult for us to read all the relevant feedback, and having thousands of posts that aren't tagged or named correctly makes it even harder.

[thorn mica]

On the other hand, it DOES make it more difficult for more niche ideas to be shown. Like bringing back the Badens. Not a lot of people will think about it unless they see a post about it

[thorn mica]

Gone but not forgotten😔

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[jagged tiger]

Baden family my beloved

[zealous valley]

Are the Badens a german family?

Baden is the name of a historical state in Southwestern Germany and part of the modern day state of Baden-Württemberg so it would make sense

[tame quail]

it means bathing in german too.

[zealous valley]

Oh interesting didn't know that

[quasi flare]

Why did you post that in this thread?

[tame quail]

question, what was it?

[quasi flare]

A whole list of animals that live in Ohio

[tame quail]

oh its the Ohio guy lmaoo

[manic marsh]

Some times I got a glitch on the four wheelers that hit some flips then yanks me off to like 100 meters away I died

I mean hit something

[quasi flare]

#1062059141436297246

[deft sorrel]

You might be looking for #1062059141436297246 - where you can make a post about this for the team to see on Monday (if they catch it)
Otherwise you can send a ticket directly to the support team with photo/video evidence at: https://support.thehunter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[manic marsh]

Ok

[opaque nebula]

Here’s a jump to top for mobile users since we don’t have the button

[bronze kayak]

@vast relic i have a post about multiple ideas for improving lodges. I made one of those points into an extra post thst only focuses on that one point. Would that count as a duplicate post ?

[vast relic]

Technically your post with multiple ideas is against the forum rules and the "one point" post should stay

But there are thousands of posts so it'll take a long time to go through them all

[bronze kayak]

No no like the post is one idea, but with multiple points and for on point i've made an extra Post

The topic is improving the trophy lodges and some points are to have no gender requierement for multimounts, an System to place plaques and yourself and to "rezise" the plaques and mounts so animals could fit on smaller ones. And for thst last point i made an extra post

[tawdry spear]

So now that the GO wolf will be added tomorrow is there any chance that it will be a little easier to get a GO in general? Like I’m playing probably about 4 hours a week and don’t like grinding because I think it takes away the hunting experience and was wondering if it is possible to get one just by roaming around the map and shoot on sight or casually shooting animals in need zones

[trim hollow]

Yeah they said in the patch notes they increased the chance of getting rares, however that works

Nvm it was for moose

[winged crane]

It don’t let me post

[thorn mica]

You need to talk enough to get the permissions

[median spear]

For the love of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, remove slow mode

I get why it's a thing but it's literally impossible to have a proper dialogue.

[median spear]

Finally, I wonder if there's a way to prioritize which of these threads have the most 👍

[bronze kayak]

It isint a feature by discord so it probably wont happen, unless they add new Tags that can only be applied by mods wich let you Filter by posts in range of upvotes. Like 100+, 200+,300+,400+,500+,700+,900+ upvotes

[median spear]

Yeah do that.

[median spear]

Though I think all posts above a certain threshold should be pinned

[opaque nebula]

Suggestion change the name of this thread to Feedback Rules or something as it seems like hardly anyone has seen this post or reads it

[median spear]

Or make it mandatory to read before you post feedback

[neat siren]

Unfortunately if no one reads PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING they’ll ignore rules too lol

[opaque nebula]

Prolly but it might put more reason on why it should be read before posting it’s not like the title indicates stakes as it is currently

[karmic orchid]

Lmao frfr

[median spear]

Still, I think you should pin the top ones.

[cedar walrus]

Rules-smules, you just have to know how to bend them. Africa 2.0 or we riot. 🙃

[neat siren]

WRONG 😭 bending rules is just breaking them in a bow

[median spear]

Why not have players vote on which threads get pinned?

[neat siren]

Kinda rigs what’s popular tbh, Africa 2.0 has like 2k upvotes with no pins so I don’t know it’s needed tbh

[fathom warren]

You can only pin one last i checked

[jagged tiger]

Yeah and smaller threads will get overshadowed and not seen even more than they already are. It dosent help threads grow

[wise canopy]

Idea was good in theory but I feel like it buried a lot of good threads and kills engagement

[bronze kayak]

The rules dont even work 😭

There were 4 trail cam posts back to back one day

[wise canopy]

There's no point in posting anything now, everything ends up so deep itd take an archeological dig to find it

[zealous valley]

Too true, I had been considering going back to making map ideas and such for a long time and then this came out and I just couldn't be bothered trying to put in alot of effort for no one to ever end up seeing it.

[wise canopy]

There's that dead engagement i meant

[neat siren]

Maybe if people posted either good ideas or not the same 4 things with slight variations we’d get somewhere 💔

[opaque nebula]

Doubt it my idea for horses had a ton of engagement before the rule change, now there’s nothing

[median spear]

I'd pin those that are either hella upvoted (Africa and Arctic) or very eloquent and clear (the cougar fixed)

[jagged tiger]

This could still backfire and bury posts that dont have as much popularity and need the engagement and support they deserve. Basically it would seem they are picking favorites

[median spear]

Well then what would you suggest

[jagged tiger]

Not much you can do without it screwing over someone badly i say keep it the way it is because they are definitely not reverting it

[surreal adder]

its relly hard to figure out if someone alredy posted something or its just new but its probly easyer for you

[jagged tiger]

Then dont post anything just sprinkle some of your personal ideas into that original post

[dusk stump]

After devs prohibited us do bump we lost hope.

[opaque nebula]

Honestly the bump ban would’ve been fine if they hadn’t also changed the way feedback was sorted to Date Posted, if they had left it where the recent activity was the default then threads might’ve seen more discussions happening.

[karmic thunder]

I agree, a lot of posts lost a lot of the support they were getting.

[pale kite]

Use the filter tab :

• Sort by recently online (this one is most useful)
• Sort by date of post

[opaque nebula]

Yeah i do that but clearly most folks don’t that’s why I stated to change the default, as it’s not the only option

[cedar walrus]

🧑‍🔧
Feedback is wearing like a jacket that’s one size too small.

I get that there was a conscientious decision to prohibit bumping threads to the top of the list, but doesn’t it seem like there’s been a sizable drop in engagement?

👉 The top of the list is reducing to a daily parking-lot for cross-play requests. 👈

[atomic pagoda]

Bumping definitely got out of hand. In Some threads the comments was just full of bumps, and it was kind of ugly. So I definitely understand getting rid of that

But man they killed so many good threads by doing that. Africa big 5, Polar Bears in Canada, British Columbia, The Roosevelt Collection, so many now are buried underneath a mountain of threads

What is even the point of writing really detailed threads anymore when it’s just going to be buried in a few days

As Kurgan said, the feedback is now a parking lot

[bronze kayak]

Thats exactly what i was thinking. The amount of high quality detailed Suggestion that were made with passion is really small now.

Only advantage i see from the new sorting system is that threads get a few more likes then a thread that wasnt pushed up in someway before

[jagged tiger]

But at the same time it didnt let newer and smaller threads shine as bright as they should've its always the same thing at the top from over bumping

There's huge pros and cons

[median spear]

I do think there's a way feedback could be more organized because right now, it's kind of a mess

It feels like people repeat ideas a lot or suggest very useless things

[bronze kayak]

The forum does the opiside of what its supossed to Do now

[forest summit]

The real problem is that there will be many new repetitive posts (because people don’t look for existing posts to add their comments) on the same topic with few comments, and they will end up pushing valuable posts down to the bottom of the feedback forum.

[bronze kayak]

Also on niche topics like dog breeds its important that the post itself is good. If the post is just "yeah so this dog is cute and it would be cool to have" no one would even care for the comments ....

My dachshund Suggestion is like the third one, but the most detailed with fur types, traits, etc. Thats why its the most upvoted although its a niche topic

[median spear]

I know this'll be unpopular but the mods should filter stuff more so that people can focus on a few posts

[deft sorrel]

We surely can start deleting posts - But also, we all volunteer to help in the discord.
This is not a paid position so it would boil down to 'when we have the time' within our day.

I know I am here often but I am not sat on Discord, personally, 24/7

[median spear]

Oh I'm totes aware

But like, I think having a clearer set of criteria on what's a worthy post and maybe even cleaning up the crappier ones

And if manpower is a problem, send out mod applications. Though ideally see what time zones the current mods are in and get people to cover the dead zones

[vast relic]

There are thousands and thousands of posts. I've spent entire days cleaning the forums and barely scratched the surface.

We clean up when we have time, and we read posts regularly. Getting feedback from the forums here isn't ideal. We want it to be super easy to see what features people want in order of upvotes and easy for someone to have a great new idea that the team sees immediately. We hope to retire the structure here some day for something better for everyone, so just see this as a temporary way to manage the large amounts of posts and bumps.

[median spear]

If you're considering what you'd want instead, think of specifically what you want

I think something that would help would be custom tags for stuff like countries and animals

[vast relic]

Don't worry that's literally my job lol

It'll come

[fluid robin]

Would there ever be volunteer positions for forum clean up?

[median spear]

It's ok. We understand

Maybe the mods should look into more different sources. Ideally...

Something where people can share ideas based on a template to keep it neat

Something where people can talk and share feedback

A big ass tagging system with different countries, animals, etc.

Let people sort different posts by votes

A system where mods can filter out duplicates or crap

[vast relic]

We have a vision how we want to collect feedback and we've been cooking something for a while, just let us cook. News soon ^^

[indigo marsh]

Not my right or space to say this but some people do need to remember all moderating here is voluntary

[vast relic]

It is 100% your right and space to say that. Our moderators moderate for fun. It's on us (the Community Managers) in the end to create safe and fun places for the COTW community and to collect feedback for our team.