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vast relic
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ARCHIVED - PLEASE READ THE PINNED POST

🗨️ AFTER YOU'VE WRITTEN A POST 🗨️

  • Discussing is great, but NOT arguing or attacking. Be civil with disagreements and respect others' opinions
  • DO NOT BUMP. We consider anything unrelated to discussing and expanding on the idea to be bumping, including writing the number of upvotes or telling people to bump/upvote or even celebrating the amount of upvotes.
  • Please don't clutter threads by replying to the original post to "bring people to the top". There is an up-arrow icon at the top right of the thread when you are scrolled down that will bring you to the top of the post. If something else needs pinning, tag a mod.
obtuse remnant
vast relic
obtuse remnant
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alright good to know thank you

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what does the tag community mean and will anything be done against bumping suggestions?

atomic pagoda
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Also I love that the rules are here now, the feedback has become a bit of a Wild West

delicate prairie
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Yea like there are tons of countries in Africa where we can go (and surprisingly haven't gone yet) so can't we make a suggestion of another country because some other African country is already suggested?

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Plus bumping is what keeps the idea alive, we fortunately have a lot of new players join the community on Discord every week, and if there is an amazing idea from last year like https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1195097534239088720 that doesn't get bumped, I can almost guarantee the new members aren't gonna scroll all the way down for a whole year worth of posts to find it and support it if they want to

atomic pagoda
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Yeah, things get can get buried very quickly

robust rampart
# delicate prairie Plus bumping is what keeps the idea alive, we fortunately have a lot of new play...

The Africa Big Five has already been recorded. I remember Jaxy saying you are wasting your time bumping it at this point.

Im pretty sure most of the big reserve ideas have been recorded. He said its usually after 3 months or so from the beginning date of the post. It sounds like they are just interested in only new ideas or content that is actually relevant to the suggestion.

im not trying to be mean but I dont think they want 1000s of comments of how good something tatse to shift through on the suggestion. That's what im understanding from this.

worldly pulsar
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cedar walrus
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No bumping, we’re cooked. 😞

lilac surge
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I don’t see how bumping wouldn’t help but upvotes would? Upvotes are almost meaningless when said post is buried by new ones.

worldly pulsar
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worldly pulsar
# robust rampart Even if has been recorded like Jaxy said?

That's the point of my earlier post ... we don't always know if it's been recorded .... How many votes does it need before it's worthy of being recorded ....

Something like Africa 2.0 its obvious but a post that gets 20, 50 or 100 upvotes ????

robust rampart
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Jaxy said around 3 months or so from the time the post was made. Its not number of votes but time frame

worldly pulsar
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well since Jaxy is no longer around to lend guidance .... I would be interested to know if that rule still applies ....

robust rampart
signal bolt
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delicate prairie
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If someone is ghost bumping a suggestion that has already been recorded, aren't they just taking away from other new suggestions that haven't had their spotlight yet.

Why overtake a new suggestion with an already recorded suggestion unless it's something that could actually be productive in the making of the suggestion.

vast relic
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atomic pagoda
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trim hollow
vast relic
# trim hollow True but it helps the suggestion to be seen by other people, even the Arctic thr...

If people also want the same feature they can search it and upvote or comment months after it's been posted, that's when it would be pushed again to the top. That's how the feedback forum is supposed to work.

If I could bully discord into organizing posts by upvotes trust me I would 😅

But using bumps as a way to keep an old idea alive doesn't mean there's genuine widespread interest and that's the problem with it.

trim hollow
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obtuse remnant
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i wonder that too but i have a feeling its gonna be a no

forest summit
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❌ bump, bump, bump…
✅ discussion, interesting images, ideas, data, and insights

bronze kayak
vast relic
trim hollow
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obtuse remnant
vast relic
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-# I kinda like the landmines post though 💀

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vast relic
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If it's under 5000 layers of irony and looks serious at a glance I'll allow it 😆

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obtuse remnant
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i was also wondering if the slowmode could be a little bit less

vast relic
obtuse remnant
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alright i understand

obtuse remnant
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robust rampart
worldly pulsar
# robust rampart What about ghost bumps and continuous talk about stuff in a suggestion that isn'...

As stated earlier I would think ghost bumps maybe once ever few days or once a week would be okay ... but some people just bump the same thread constantly ....

This is kind of my rule of thumb on my posts are to only bump maybe 2 posts at a time and no more than every 3 days or once a week .... Is that too excessive?

As long as the ghost bump is seeking to invite more discussion on the issue then in my mind that's a good thing .... As long as it's not overly excessive ....

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I will say this about these rules .... If we cant bring post back up (bump) after a certain period of time then the feedback channel is going to just become another version of General chat ....

Because there are really only so many game related ideas and suggestions .... And if those few decent Ideas are already beat to death ... Then there wont be much else to discuss ....

I fear cotw-feedback will devolve into nothing but landmine posts and other such nonsense ....

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delicate prairie
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@vast relic I'm curious, what's your favorite post/suggestion here on Discord? 👀
P.S. we all know if it is your favorite doesn't mean we are getting it 🙂

signal bolt
# vast relic Exaaaactly 😌

So for example bumping with images of animals or guns or something like me making Great One or animal furs for a concept? I know everyone is kinda mad at me for the Mule Deer but that was something I was passionate about

vast relic
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vast relic
# worldly pulsar ...... I will say this about these rules .... If we cant bring post back up (b...

Discord may not be the best place to have a feature/feedback list that people can vote on, but it's what we use right now, so we need ways to make it manageable.

We're not saying you can't add to your idea and discuss, but we want to then see a back and forth then and not the same person writing bump every day. There's a big range of gray area between that, but I'm not going to put a number on it.

Also no one is getting banned for not following these rules to a tee, we just might move you or remove your post if it will make this channel more organized and easier to manage.

vast relic
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In general though, anything you suggest to EW imo should be entirely separate from the fun community stuff

vast relic
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deft sorrel
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When there's just chains of hundreds of bumps - is it something we are okay to 'clean' so to speak? Idk about anyone else, but scrolling through a forest of
bump
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absolutely kills any motivation I had to read anything about the post and will have me disinclined to even begin trawling through it

vast relic
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Absolutely, please clean when you see them :)

atomic pagoda
deft sorrel
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tbh, I like when the bump has like - relation to the post (personally)
It not only brings a new facet of convo up - but it necro's the post

zealous valley
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I am planning to resume working on map concepts, as well as other creative ideas, and I would like to establish a central space for discussion and feedback. My proposal is to create a single “community” post that would serve as the main hub where members can share advice, provide constructive feedback, and potentially influence which ideas I choose to develop further.

Rather than posting separately for each new idea, my intention is to keep all discussions and updates within this one post to maintain consistency and organization. Would it be acceptable to use a single ongoing post as the designated area for community input and conversation regarding my projects?

karmic thunder
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Very understandable new rules, will.make sure to not bump my posts with unnecessary things again.

opaque nebula
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If discussions are getting very long is it ok to reply the the top of the thread to bring it down so folks have a quick way to get to the start of the discussion? (I get there’s pins but often there are important ideas and discussions that dont get pinned)

sweet drift
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@vast relic did you see my latest post? If so, could you share your thoughts and send it to the rest of the team please?

nimble vault
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so, do active posts no longer pop up to the top whenever someone leaves a new comment on them? Has anyone else noticed this?

deft sorrel
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lilac surge
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Yeah, I think discord did an update

zealous valley
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bueno - at least one person 🥲

woven mango
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I still think EW should add additional folders to better organize the discord threads. Ex. "1. Weapons, 2. Gear, 3. Locations, 4. Features, etc." Instead of a general page that has everyone's posts clumped together. To me this would assist with the clutter & make it easier to find related topics. It's just my thoughts to help organize everything. As an individual that despises clutter, I prefer to keep things organized an easy to sort through if needed.

vast relic
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We made it auto-sort to date posted to curb bumping for now. It's not necessarily permanent, but we need people to use the forum as intended and search for the topics they want to look at instead of kind of "marketing" their idea and pushing people to bump.

I know this also encourages people to do new posts, but just... please don't 😭 and bear with us for now

zealous valley
woven mango
# vast relic This is why we have tags - You can filter posts by tag and it makes it easier to...

You do have a point that it could leave some topics to be misplaced in a way. I do appreciate the reply & the effort. I just figured I'd pitch the idea to help sort topics on the side bar just like how cotw-general, cotw-support, & cotw-feedback are. Instead of just feedback as a general hub I figured it would be possible to add specific channels to better sort through topics esp. Reserve ideas since the general search uses key wording & the tags vary far & in between since many suggestions utilize the same tags. With that said would it be possible to extend the list of tag options to better place the postings? • Edit: Never mind, I just noticed new tags were added 😋 been out of the loop for a while. Again, thank you for your time. Hopefully the community edits their posts with the proper tags to make it easier to look through.

vast relic
smoky crag
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Does anyone know if we can list all of the Posts we've created? The new Tags can be added, if you can find them

woven mango
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@smoky crag Has a point here the history keeps track of the thread posts you reply to but you'll have to dig to find your threads specifically since the search doesn't find threads with your handle (username). But its likely a discord issue not an EW setting for the forum. In the past since the side bar limits you to a point of followed threads, you'll most likely have to dig in your history to locate your older threads unless someone in the community finds it an adds a reply bumping it up from the depths 😅

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I've had to do this quite a few times since every time you reply to a post for the 1st time it automatically has you set to follow the thread & it'll replace your side bar topics. Either unfollow threads to open your follow bar an your old threads might go back to your side bar? But dont quote me as changes may apply with updates & GM changes to the forum. But again I'd advise searching through your history pages as they are dated. Its a pain but thats how I found my old posts unless theirs another way I'm unaware of bc the search doesn't always find your keyword as I found out yesterday 😪

vast relic
# smoky crag Does anyone know if we can list all of the Posts we've created? The new Tags can...

Our team is already struggling with the clutter of this forum (we always have). If everyone had a master-post of their own threads it would... not help the situation.

How about keeping notes in a private server/google doc/etc.? I have my own private server that I use to keep notes and it's pretty nice. Of course ideally the forums feature would a bit more sophisticated but sadly it is what it is, you can't search by post author right now.

trim hollow
woven mango
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@vast relic By the way thanks again for adding the new tag topics, this really helps alot & hopefully the community will apply them as intended to assist with the clutter issue for both the community & the devs 😁.

vast relic
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@nimble vault and everyone else, feel free to tag me somewhere or ask the author if tags are wrong in a post

To find a species rework/remodel, you can use the tags species and rework/remodel together :) - I at least made sure all the posts that Fuzion linked in the master-thread are tagged correctly and will now be deleting the master-thread.

vast relic
# woven mango <@1110196355621724271> By the way thanks again for adding the new tag topics, th...

Of course! I am happy to make things a bit easier for everyone but this place is still very much a WIP so we will gladly take feedback for improving the forum overall.

I wanna make it clear that while these forums are for YOU to express your ideas, it also becomes much less effective to communicate your ideas to us when we have to scroll through 1000 "bump" messages or break our heads trying to find every single one of the "Africa 2" ideas to be able to actually see your opinions. I hope we can move the forum away from the trend of people marketing their own ideas and be much more collaborative :)

vast relic
woven mango
# vast relic Of course! I am happy to make things a bit easier for everyone but this place is...

I understand, an issue I see often is the text limits. More often than not its easier to post a new thread post using the heading & a few reply boxes to present ones take on a suggestion than it is to text cap then have replies between them. I'll admit even in my reserve concept I had to make a msg link "table of contents" since the key points are scattered in the replies. Since it req. Admin permissions to pin msg's, as the OP I'm not able to add pins to the details so I had to improvise if the Dev's were to look at it 😅. But I get where you're coming from an honestly, I think folks in the community are in the mindset that if a post doesn't get upvotes it wont get considered or due to the way discord pushes posts down ppl are also afraid their posts aren't being seen bc its buried under new listings or heavily replied posts. In my case I have no issue with post links being added in my post & I'd gladly pin them if I was able to, to act as bookmarks to easily sort through the possible 1000+ replies 😅

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To the community: I'd suggest this idea to everyone that if you have key points to lay it out by making a "table of contents" with msg links unless you have permissions to apply pins. Furthermore, I see no harm if others in the community share their thread links to your thread if its related or similar. To me this only adds to the possible features that could get considered even if its different than your own. Vivi added new tags so I'd also advise editing your posts with them to allow the Dev's & Community to see them & to better organize the forum as a whole. •To: @vast relic again, I appreciate your time & replies on the subject. Hopefully with the added tags it will make sorting through the masses easier 🤝 .

deft sorrel
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I guess, my only concern with adding YOUR thread to someone elses, without asking or having prior permission to do so.. Is kinda like hijacking THEIR post for visibility and traction.
Like I could understand the why, but also it's kind of insulting and bullies people to notice you when it was something else/someone elses thought entirely.. if that makes sense?
Maybe when Vivi is back at work tomorrow (its 8pm here afterall) she has some better input

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At least, as an outsider looking in, it would look like a thread is being hijacked to me.

nimble vault
# vast relic <@805047587320627201> and everyone else, feel free to tag me somewhere or ask th...

Thanks for adding the tags, that should make things a lot easier to sort through. I created that master thread as a last-ditch effort to try and keep all of those rework/remodel posts from getting buried permanently (which could easily happen without anyone bumping them or sending any new messages in there for a while).

Just one question though: is there anything wrong with making posts that contain links to multiple other threads? I'm thinking of this post as an example:#1394550264995909772

Having one place where everyone can post their map ideas, or ideas for remodels, or something else that's a catch-all for a certain type of feedback, can be very useful for getting an overview of what suggestions the community has come up with. It also makes it easier to avoid making duplicate posts because it condenses all of that information into one place. It also avoids the issues that come with tags being used inconsistently. They can be a very helpful resource.

Is the team against having master-threads in general, or are there situations where they might be allowed for the sake of accessibility?

woven mango
# deft sorrel I guess, my only concern with adding YOUR thread to someone elses, without askin...

I see your point & view on that but I'm not sure what else can be done if we're trying to consolidate same topic posts. Sure ppl can comment, agree, & disagree on threads as expected however I dont see a solution to duping topics & their own take on it without creating a similar post. Like Africa for example I know of 6 various map requests that are for the most part similar for species but the initial locations are different. I just dont see another way to have the community be more collaborative if ppl get offended for sharing a similar thread on the same topic?! In my case sure I have my own concept & direction for a Wyoming reserve that I took other threads into account creating it but I'm not offended if others add to it or share their post links that contribute to it. If the Dev's look at the post they would have my Table of Contents with my features & the tributed links I added towards the design. If ppl added their links to it to me, it would allow the Dev's to have additional options to review in relation. I mean at the end of the day they decide but if I were them, it would be more convenient to resource content if they're in one place or rather fewer need to bump threads. I'm glad I have 93 👍 votes but it could have 2k & still not release if that makes sense 😅 but your right Vivi might be able to add to that note. All 'n' all I too would like to find a mutual ground to reduce the blatant bumps & clutter even though I'll admit I'm guilty of it assuming that my listings weren't being seen due to being buried, however. With the added tags I have less worry of it being noticed if it shows up when searching by the added tag(s) by both the community & the dev team.

vast relic
# nimble vault Thanks for adding the tags, that should make things a lot easier to sort through...

In our view, the goal with making a post for a new idea shouldn't be about the details of your specific vision, only the headline. If someone makes a post that they want an Africa 2 map, the upvotes should apply to that general concept and not all the nitty gritty details of the specific post. There can be one post for "Africa 2" and many comments with different ideas and discussions. No matter what, devs are gonna read the comments. No one is getting their entire idea with all the details taken, it's only used as inspiration to see what people are interested in. So for us there's no point in having separate threads for the same general concept just to elevate someone else's specific species that they wanted for instance. And that's why we aren't really a fan of master-threads, we'd like things to be consolidated and tagged properly instead.

There isn't a straight-forward way to make this system perfect right now but that's okay we just want to make it more manageable for now and hopefully move threads for less-relevant topics to #🦌︴general

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To be clear, what I mean by that isn't that the details don't matter, they are super important and we absolutely love seeing your creativity shine! What I mean is that ideas shouldn't be considered different enough to warrant an entire new post just because they aren't exactly the same. And if we can manage to curb bumps entirely and use the pin feature, there shouldn't be a worry that your idea isn't seen just because it's not an entire new post

vast relic
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I've edited the rules a bit to be clearer - one thing I didn't spread info on in the first version is that this thing exists at the top right of every thread!

obtuse remnant
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@vast relic not sure if this is the right place to ask but what is the reason behind there also being a 1 minute slowmode for the cotw support channel?

vast relic
obtuse remnant
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alright thanks for the answer, anybody else don't see the emojis here?

vast relic
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yeah it only shows in gallery mode lol

obtuse remnant
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awh

opaque nebula
sweet drift
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# vast relic # ARCHIVED - PLEASE READ THE PINNED POST 🗨️ AFTER YOU'VE WRITTEN A POST 🗨️ - ...

Hello Vivi, I red this post and agrees with it. After I looked for what I wanted to post about, the thread I found was interesting to me but it's title is well... not very precise and undescriptive.... although it's a great thread in my opinion :

  • "Trophy-Lodge Remastered"

I would like to know If it's okay to tag the Original Poster of this post to ask him or her to change the title for it to be more descriptive and that the general audience know more about what that thread contains and what improvements and changes we'd like to be made.

Thank you for your time and have a great day 🙂

true thistle
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what happened i cant bump my posts now

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vast relic
true thistle
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But this means the old popular posts go to waste

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deft sorrel
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They also don't really go to waste.
If they were already just being bumped, the convo was stale on them and no progression was happening - yk?

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And if they're clearly popular, they've likely been noted and marked down as it were

true thistle
vast relic
# true thistle But like my point is no one will see it since you can only see posted ones now

That's not true. Since we don't allow duplicate posts, people with the same idea will need to migrate to the highest-voted thread on the same topic. People are meant to use the search bar and tag filters to find ideas.

Old ideas are not gone to waste. They are still kept track of, especially the really popular ones. But bumping makes it difficult for us to read all the relevant feedback, and having thousands of posts that aren't tagged or named correctly makes it even harder.

thorn mica
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jagged tiger
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Baden family my beloved

zealous valley
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Are the Badens a german family?

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Baden is the name of a historical state in Southwestern Germany and part of the modern day state of Baden-Württemberg so it would make sense

zealous valley
quasi flare
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Why did you post that in this thread?

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manic marsh
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Some times I got a glitch on the four wheelers that hit some flips then yanks me off to like 100 meters away I died

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I mean hit something

deft sorrel
manic marsh
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Ok

opaque nebula
bronze kayak
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@vast relic i have a post about multiple ideas for improving lodges. I made one of those points into an extra post thst only focuses on that one point. Would that count as a duplicate post ?

vast relic
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But there are thousands of posts so it'll take a long time to go through them all

bronze kayak
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The topic is improving the trophy lodges and some points are to have no gender requierement for multimounts, an System to place plaques and yourself and to "rezise" the plaques and mounts so animals could fit on smaller ones. And for thst last point i made an extra post

tawdry spear
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So now that the GO wolf will be added tomorrow is there any chance that it will be a little easier to get a GO in general? Like I’m playing probably about 4 hours a week and don’t like grinding because I think it takes away the hunting experience and was wondering if it is possible to get one just by roaming around the map and shoot on sight or casually shooting animals in need zones

trim hollow
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Nvm it was for moose

winged crane
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It don’t let me post

thorn mica
median spear
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For the love of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, remove slow mode

I get why it's a thing but it's literally impossible to have a proper dialogue.

median spear
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Finally, I wonder if there's a way to prioritize which of these threads have the most 👍

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median spear
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Yeah do that.

median spear
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Though I think all posts above a certain threshold should be pinned

opaque nebula
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Suggestion change the name of this thread to Feedback Rules or something as it seems like hardly anyone has seen this post or reads it

median spear
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Or make it mandatory to read before you post feedback

neat siren
opaque nebula
median spear
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Still, I think you should pin the top ones.

cedar walrus
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Rules-smules, you just have to know how to bend them. Africa 2.0 or we riot. 🙃

neat siren
median spear
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Why not have players vote on which threads get pinned?

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wise canopy
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Idea was good in theory but I feel like it buried a lot of good threads and kills engagement

bronze kayak
wise canopy
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There's no point in posting anything now, everything ends up so deep itd take an archeological dig to find it

zealous valley
wise canopy
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There's that dead engagement i meant

neat siren
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Maybe if people posted either good ideas or not the same 4 things with slight variations we’d get somewhere 💔

opaque nebula
median spear
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I'd pin those that are either hella upvoted (Africa and Arctic) or very eloquent and clear (the cougar fixed)

jagged tiger
median spear
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Well then what would you suggest

jagged tiger
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Not much you can do without it screwing over someone badly i say keep it the way it is because they are definitely not reverting it

surreal adder
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its relly hard to figure out if someone alredy posted something or its just new but its probly easyer for you

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dusk stump
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After devs prohibited us do bump we lost hope.

opaque nebula
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cedar walrus
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🧑‍🔧
Feedback is wearing like a jacket that’s one size too small.

I get that there was a conscientious decision to prohibit bumping threads to the top of the list, but doesn’t it seem like there’s been a sizable drop in engagement?

👉 The top of the list is reducing to a daily parking-lot for cross-play requests. 👈

atomic pagoda
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Bumping definitely got out of hand. In Some threads the comments was just full of bumps, and it was kind of ugly. So I definitely understand getting rid of that

But man they killed so many good threads by doing that. Africa big 5, Polar Bears in Canada, British Columbia, The Roosevelt Collection, so many now are buried underneath a mountain of threads

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What is even the point of writing really detailed threads anymore when it’s just going to be buried in a few days

As Kurgan said, the feedback is now a parking lot

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median spear
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I do think there's a way feedback could be more organized because right now, it's kind of a mess

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It feels like people repeat ideas a lot or suggest very useless things

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forest summit
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The real problem is that there will be many new repetitive posts (because people don’t look for existing posts to add their comments) on the same topic with few comments, and they will end up pushing valuable posts down to the bottom of the feedback forum.

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median spear
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I know this'll be unpopular but the mods should filter stuff more so that people can focus on a few posts

deft sorrel
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We surely can start deleting posts - But also, we all volunteer to help in the discord.
This is not a paid position so it would boil down to 'when we have the time' within our day.

I know I am here often but I am not sat on Discord, personally, 24/7

median spear
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Oh I'm totes aware

But like, I think having a clearer set of criteria on what's a worthy post and maybe even cleaning up the crappier ones

And if manpower is a problem, send out mod applications. Though ideally see what time zones the current mods are in and get people to cover the dead zones

vast relic
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There are thousands and thousands of posts. I've spent entire days cleaning the forums and barely scratched the surface.

We clean up when we have time, and we read posts regularly. Getting feedback from the forums here isn't ideal. We want it to be super easy to see what features people want in order of upvotes and easy for someone to have a great new idea that the team sees immediately. We hope to retire the structure here some day for something better for everyone, so just see this as a temporary way to manage the large amounts of posts and bumps.

median spear
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If you're considering what you'd want instead, think of specifically what you want

I think something that would help would be custom tags for stuff like countries and animals

vast relic
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Don't worry that's literally my job lol

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It'll come

fluid robin
median spear
# vast relic Don't worry that's literally my job lol

It's ok. We understand

Maybe the mods should look into more different sources. Ideally...

Something where people can share ideas based on a template to keep it neat

Something where people can talk and share feedback

A big ass tagging system with different countries, animals, etc.

Let people sort different posts by votes

A system where mods can filter out duplicates or crap

vast relic
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We have a vision how we want to collect feedback and we've been cooking something for a while, just let us cook. News soon ^^

indigo marsh
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Not my right or space to say this but some people do need to remember all moderating here is voluntary

vast relic
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It is 100% your right and space to say that. Our moderators moderate for fun. It's on us (the Community Managers) in the end to create safe and fun places for the COTW community and to collect feedback for our team.