#Reverting Critical Changes

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mild fog
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It seems that EW slowly over the years have been going inbetween if they like Grinders or hate them. After sundar release in 2024, they added the respawn timer for every animal. i believe that was a bullcrap idea, just keep it to the tigers, the tigers were the problem but they decided to add it to every animal which is a pain for Grinders. A Huge Chunk of the community are grinders and people have quit the game cos of this stupid change , and also they removed Forcing respawns , which may i add has been in the game for over 6 years at that point, after the tiger 'exploit' was found they immediately rushed to get rid of it, i dont even think it was a bug, i think it was just EW trying to nerf grinders but use that as a petty excuse. Me and Many Other grinders would like some changes to happen.
Grinding Related Things to change:
1)Make the Respawn timer only for Bengal Tigers.
2)Bring back Main Menu respawns, cos who the hell is that hurting it is a harmless feature that was in the game for over 6 years.
3) Revert pheasants flying so erratically (it is VERY hard to hit flying birds especially on controller)

**Non Grinding Related Changes **
Make it so that we don't have to kill the whole flock of geese/Ducks for respawns
Change animals like foxes to where we dont have to kill the pair for respawns

Things to Keep the same:
Keep the tent rendering the same how it was after they changed it in 2024

I know , no dev's will see this cos they rarely listen to the community, but just listen to the community for once and actually care abt your game, work on anticheats or better ways to stop more dangerous issues ect instead of things that could of been kept in the game.
(sorry for the rant)

torpid cipher
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The hell is 3??

mild fog
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let me change it real quick

torpid cipher
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Keep tents how it is or bring back the don't render until 180 away

mild fog
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fixed it

viral plume
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Id love for them to actually go ahead with helping their community instead of tearing it apart by nerfing one part because one other part complains about it i feel like the changes were fine EXCEPT for tigers, tigers should've been extremely rare from the get go and I feel like EW did good with them in their current state but any other species revert the change it would save so much time for grinders

mild fog
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Grinds that would usually take 1 day - 1 month to potentially get are now pushed to 1 day - 2 months , and most of that is just waiting for respawns

viral plume
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And a side note I get g1s are supposed to be rare but it dosent matter when people pour hours and thousands of kills just to get 1 trophy so I feel like its justified and still doesn't lose its value

mild fog
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Ive payed over £100 on this game, i dont want to be limited to how many animals i can kill. My kill rate with Forced respawns was around 100 per hour, now im lucky to get 40-50

winter nymph
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They claimed the tent change was a feature but once they realized it was broken as hell it was a “massive exploit”

mild fog
modern temple
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I don't think you should have to main menu to force respawns. That just feels like an exploit, but the respawn timer is definitely too slow. They just need to adjust the timer some so you wouldn't have to main menu.

The tent thing doesn't bother me personally. I will upvote because I agree the respawn timer needs to speed up a little. No main menu though in my opinion.

mild fog
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An 'exploit' that was in the game for over 6 years. Tbh i think it used to be a feature before tigers. Thanks for upvoting

modern temple
mild fog
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Update : I have added another thing that would also be nice

mild fog
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bump

lime harbor
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This game isn't about being optimized and grinding as many animals as possible, some of ya'll have a higher kill count than a factory farm in pursuit of a star-painter-mooseelkibou. No actual hunting, just teleporting between lakes and killing every high scoring male that always respawns in the same place. Dont say it doesn't affect people who play the old fashioned way, because it does, because of this play style we will likely never see any competitive elements added into the game again. and many of the improvements we would like to see made, never will be because they hurt your play style. leaderboards and competitions will die with classic. and without a competitive element to the game cheating will continue to run rampant.

mild fog
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so basically putting stuff back to how it was before is such a big issue now, alr ig, also grinding&herd management is a feature the devs kept.Also, quite a large chunk of grinders also casual hunt. also, literally none of these changes ive stated will affect casual players

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Also, i dont know what alternate dimension your brain is in but bumping a post 6 DAYS after the last is not spam

torpid cipher
dusk echo
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I think the spawn timer is good as is .... not a matter of anyone liking or hating one group over another .... Its whats good for the game ....

A hunting game should not be a carnival shooting gallery .... But neither should it be ultra realistic where you sit for hours on end without seeing an animal .....

If anything they should come up with ways to spawn G1's other than grinding .... https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1242416386031091753

viral plume
# mild fog so basically putting stuff back to how it was before is such a big issue now, al...

As a hard grinder I do love casual hunting but I dont have all the time in the world to be able to fill up my lodge and make my lodge as pretty as possible without grinding, grinding helps me more than anything sure some people may not find it fun but I do i see nothing wrong with any of the playstyles, ive been on both sides but reverting certain changes would be beneficial

Mainly the pheasant one it makes bird hunting on console more of a chore than anything fun

viral plume
# lime harbor This game isn't about being optimized and grinding as many animals as possible, ...

But at least you still have an option to casual hunt your Playstyle doesn't affect anyone else everyone plays the game differently you can play how you want no one's stopping you grinders play they want to and same with casual players at the end of the day your both after the same goal being trophies so is it really that different? Just because you drink without a straw doesn't mean there isnt an option to drink with a straw

Competitions dont matter anyways when modding is a mass rampant thing and it badly affects and plagues the game, grinding should be the least of your worries

The main intent of the game is still there hunting, theres still an option to do so you dont always have to follow along with grinding you can always play the old fashioned way, this community should come together instead of ripping eachother a part for the way we play the game

dusk echo
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@viral plume The main intent of the game is still there hunting,

And some would argue that grinding as defined in this game is not hunting ... And you can take the I should be able to play how I want to play as long as it doesn't affect anyone else argument only so far .....

The If I were to say I want to kill animals using rocket launchers and hand grenades I should be able to as long as it doesn't affect any one else then why not ??? You see there is a limit to that argument ....

And just because it used to be different doesn't change that the devs have a vision for what they want the game to be. So just to say it doesn't affect anyone else isn't entirely accurate ....

viral plume
# dusk echo > <@1355659192005951488> The main intent of the game is still there hunting, ...

The same argument still applies and ill still be repeating myself idk what to tell you, you still have the option to play the game how its intended or a way the community found THAT THE DEVS APPROVE OF really nothing will change and it shouldn't change its the identity the game has come to be

We are just asking to revert things to make the game less mind numbing and slightly less difficult

mild fog
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I don't understand why just putting stuff back to how it was before with a few tweaks is all of a sudden such a bad thing.
-No one is stopping you from playing how you want, None of these changes really affect casual hunters.
-This is just a suggestion , this probably wont happen. it is their game , they do what they want.
Once again, i would like someone to actually tell me what of these changes is so 'catastrophic' for casual players. as for a large chunk of the grinding community they are also casual hunters, what would be the point of this thread if i was going to say stuff that screws this for everyone.
As billy said, grinding is community found method that the devs approve of entirely, as for your point of The re spawn timer being good for the game, i want to know have you tried grinding, waiting an hour in game just for some pixelated animals to come back. about your point for ''A hunting game should not be a carnival shooting gallery .... But neither should it be ultra realistic where you sit for hours on end without seeing an animal '' Yes, i agree, this is an ARCADE hunting simulator, exclamation on the word arcade, the point of the game is to hunt animals, hunt them however the hell you want, i couldnt give less of a damn.

  • about your ideas in your post,
  1. Great ones do not take 2000 hours of grinding , i have no clue where you got that statistic from but that very inaccurate, most grind usually take within 100-300 hours of grinding.
  2. Having a mission G1 , that would lead to very easy self duping opportunities, also takes out of all of fun for grinding to it, cos missions you can just look up a guide and get them done in 2 hours.
  3. Yes i do agree there should be ways for casual players to get great ones easier, but not in that way, in my opinion the best thing they could do is to bring back the G1 initial spawns
torpid cipher
torpid cipher
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i find it funny that when grinding is brought up its all about g1s when i have few grinds that's took more kills to get rares then g1s and how it all probably hurts the rare grind even more then g1 grind for how much more work it takes to do those and the diamond grinds then it used to. every game out there has a grind of some kind to it no matter what game it is, isnt any reason to have a argument about grinding or casual hunting when everyone can play how they want, and you know when you go walking around killing a bunch of animals and killing a lot of one thing? thats grinding only real way one can play this game and it not be pretty much grinding is going out to a random stand killing 1 deer then getting off and hell thats still grinding but really really slow unless they add tags and random pop every time you open thee map itll always be like that

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ok i added my 2 cents worth

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And all this is coming from a person that's grinded AND casual played more then most people in the community and have been rewarded for both play styles the grind vs casual argument stuff is stupid, all the post is is stuff that shouldn't been changed because it didn't hurt anyone before and after it hurt a lot of people

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@mild fog also add in your main post where the ducks flock respawn stuff is to remove the stupid pair animals respawn stuff that foxes bears and others use

mild fog
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really hope this comes at some point

lime harbor
mild fog
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actually, this POST has been inactive since the 5th of september

viral plume
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18 day gap

green cosmos
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how bout dat?

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graceful wedge
torpid cipher
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Such lovely ness in here

mild fog
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