Rancho Del Arroyo map Remaster

[cunning cape]

I love rancho as a map and feel like it deserves a variety of new species that could help it become a more favorable map in the community's eyes here is my potential backfilled species list for this map

Species currently on Rancho Del Arroyo
Antelope jackrabbit - class 1
Rio grande turkey - class 1
Ring necked pheasant - class 1
Mexican bobcat - class 2
Coyote- class 2
Collared Peccary- class 3
Pronghorn - class 3
Whitetail Deer - Class
Desert Bighorn sheep - class 5
Mule deer - Class 6

Potential New Species
Blue-Winged Teal - Class 1 (New)
Montezuma Quail - Class 1 (New)
Northern Shoveler - Class 1 (New)
Coues deer - Class 3 (New/Replacement)

Returning Species
Green-Winged Teal - Class 1 (Returning)
Cinnamon Teal - Class 1 (Returning)
Northern Pintail - Class 1 (Returning)
Puma - Class 6 (Returning small population of 40-60 individuals)
Plains Bison - Class 9 (Returning)

Brand new species list(18 species)
Antelope jackrabbit - class 1
Rio grande turkey - class 1
Ring necked pheasant - class 1
Northern Shoveler - Class 1 (New)
Green-Winged Teal - Class 1 (Returning)
Cinnamon Teal - Class 1 (Returning)
Northern Pintail - Class 1 (Returning)
Montezuma Quail- Class 1 (New)
Blue winged teal - Class 1 (New)
Mexican bobcat - Class 2
Coyote - Class 2
Collared Peccary- Class 3
Pronghorn - Class 3
Coues Deer - Class 3
Desert Bighorn sheep - class 5
Mule deer - Class 6
Puma - class 6 (Returning small numbers 40-60 individuals)
Plains bison - Class 9 (Returning)

[shrewd scaffold]

Opening up the whole east side of the map would be key in this. Can’t add all these mountain species without the mountains EW has so decidedly kept away from us.

[cunning cape]

I was gonna bring that up as well opening up more of the mountain biomes in rancho or completely replacing one biome to be more mountainous or hilly

This post was heavily inspired by #"How to Make SRP Great Again (Species reworks, redistribution, backfilling)" the same treatment to Rancho Del Arroyo would be amazing

Currently Rancho doesn't have much of the mountainous biome explored being only a small portion of the right side. Having more of it opened up or shifted into another area would be great to see

[worn arrow]

Coues Whitetail and Aoudad 🤩

[cunning cape]

Bump

[odd harness]

replace bighorn sheep with desert bighorn sheep possibly?

[cunning cape]

Oh yeah good idea the current bighorn sheep are rm bighorn not desert bighorn as they are supposed to be

[worn arrow]

The Rocky Mountain Bighorn Sheep in AR are well-made and only require a reskin (Desert subspecies) to replace the sheep in Rancho del Arroyo. The community is requesting that the Whitetail Deer be replaced with Coues Whitetail.

This map is situated in Mexico where there are Gould Wild Turkey.

[cunning cape]

Bump

[forest berry]

Mexico also has Rio Grande Turkey, its just that Rancho is in the part of the country that has Gould's Turkey as Rio Grande live in Northeastern Mexico

[worn arrow]

Yes, El Rancho del Arroyo is situated in the region of Northwestern Mexico (mostly desert, arid, semi-arid reserve typical of the Sonoran Desert) and it is where there are Gould’s Wild Turkeys.

Montezuma quail (Cyrtonyx montezumae)

[cunning cape]

I keep forgetting to update this thread lmao I'll keep doing my research on the species

[hexed meadow]

There should be a 1/100 or something chance of finding a gemsbok

[cunning cape]

Bump

[cunning cape]

Blue-Winged teal (Spatula
discors)
Class: 1
Difficulty/level: 1-3
Behavior and habitats
Behavior: Often in large groups diving their heads underwater for food
Habitats: Shallow waterways of Rancho
Plumage types
Plumage types: Blue, Gray
Rare: Leusistic
Very rare:Hybrid(Cinnamon Teal and Blue wing teal cross) , Hybrid (Northern shoveler and blue winged teal cross)

[cunning cape]

Montezuma Quail (Crytonyx Montezumae)
Class: 1
Difficultly/Level- 1-3
Behavior and Habitats
Behavior: Often using cover and camouflage to hide away instead of flight like other birds and found in pairs
Habitat: found in the right side of Rancho in the more forested and mountainous area
Plumage types
Plumage types:
Common: Gray, Brown, light brown
Rare: Leusistic

[cunning cape]

Coues Deer (Odocoileus virginianus couesi)
Class: 3
Difficulty/level: 1-3
Behavior and habitats
Behavoir: a rather elusive animal gaining the nickname the "gray ghost" and being rather cautious animals
Habitats: will share the same range whitetail currently do on rancho
Fur types
Furs: Slate Gray, Reddish-Brown
Rare: Albino, Melanistic, leusistic, piebald

This may be controversial or a bad idea for some but whitetail on rancho should be replaced with coues deer, whitetail are already on enough maps being Mississippi Acres, Layton Lake, Revontuli Coast,New England Mountains, and now Askiy Ridge so I don't believe it would cause much harm

[torpid narwhal]

I totally agree, in fact I have a whole post on this topic:
#1072001486206279690

[cunning cape]

Rancho Del Arroyo map rework

[cunning cape]

Bump

[wet hinge]

I’m working on a Silver Ridge Peaks rework post. So if anyone could let me do that I’d appreciate it alot 👍

[cunning cape]

Feel free to link it here

[wet hinge]

Thanks

[cunning cape]

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[cunning cape]

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[worn arrow]

Kit Fox (Vulpes macrotis)

Elegant Quail (Callipepla douglasii)

Gambel's quail (Callipepla gambelii)

[keen mist]

Great idea, idk if bison would fit in tho so maybe some other large game

[cunning cape]

Bison are hunted in Mexico and there aren't any other large game that would fit

Unless someone else can find something, Bison are fine

[worn arrow]

There are other large animals, such as the feral donkey. In Arizona, feral donkeys can be found at Lake Pleasant Regional Park in the Sonoran Desert (see images). However, I’m not sure if they are also found in the state of Sonora.

[keen mist]

That’s cool love donkeys, and we still don’t have any horse species to hunt so that would be cool

[cunning cape]

Bump

[cunning cape]

I'll try to do some research on feral donkeys to see if they go into the state of sonora

[keen mist]

Do it

[cunning cape]

Bump

[cunning cape]

Desert Bighorn Sheep (Ovis canadensis nelsoni)
Class: 4
Difficulty/level: 1-3
Behavior and habitats
Behavior: Highly social found in groups of 6-10 individuals and found climbing on rocks or laying on them
Habitats: inhabits the current locations where the already existing rancho bighorn reside, replacing them on the map as well
Fur types
Common: Brown, Tan
Uncommon: Black, Gray
Rare: Leusistic, Piebald

Also make sure to check out and upvote cervid's thread on bighorn sheep
#1386492564999377126

[cunning cape]

Bump

Posts will resume later but make sure to upvote two other amazing threads being
#1377893794757738497
And #1386262809779638293 they are both really well made and deserve the support

[cunning cape]

Rancho Del Arroyo map Remaster

[cunning cape]

Maybe it's a stretch but how would you guys feel about jaguars getting added to the potential species list? But a small population like 8-10

[versed wharf]

If it has the environment for I don't say no, according to the latest news, the population has increased by 20% towards 2024-2025 to have in total 4800 specimens in Mexico.

[near bolt]

If love em but I doubt they'd do them

[cunning cape]

That's why I was asking I'm not sure how realistic it is to expect it from EW

[near bolt]

Vs 4000 tigers in the whole world and 4000-6000 global snow leopards

[versed wharf]

As for the jaguar, we are in all everywhere in its distribution area between 64,000 for the most pessimistic and 173,000.

[cunning cape]

Bump

[keen mist]

Just changed my mind, Bison would be awesome to hunt in the desert, as long as they get a remodel

[cunning cape]

See.

Plus there are populations of bison in mexico it'll make sense as a future addition

[keen mist]

Yeah and it’s probably an incredible experience

[near bolt]

There's a meat eater episode where Steven rinella hunts them

https://youtu.be/0JMzdMm31yk?si=Gj0nl9t6jNbqQU9z

There's a whole separate clip on the food of that beest
https://youtu.be/Yd1494skFSo?si=gC1Jbl_SfHp8c-7S

[keen mist]

Thank you will check out soon

[cunning cape]

I'm sure we can all agree the plains bison need a new model, the current one is lackluster compared to the newcomer the wood bison I propose EW with this Rancho Del Arroyo Remaster they come back and remodel the Plains Bison (perhaps the Euro bison as well)
● Males having a rounder beard and having their head lower to the ground
● Newer long shaggy fur across the body and especially on the legs
● Males having more head fluff than the females
● Females being slightly smaller and having more of a visual difference than the Males as they should have

[cunning cape]

Bump

[stuck swan]

Damn cotw bison look chopped

[cunning cape]

Try to guess between the male and the female in that photo lol

[cunning cape]

Bump

[near bolt]

MY I interest you in the exactly same post but by me and thus better?

[cunning cape]

No

[blazing rock]

SHUT the hell up, plz

[cunning cape]

Leave my thread out of this settle it in general

Also better see a bump from you mihai now that you are here

[blazing rock]

Yo thread dead ass hell bj

[wild jungle]

Bump

[near bolt]

This was a joke btw idk if it came ovet

[cunning cape]

Another remodel that could/should happen is the Puma/Mountain lion
○ Having more muscle and fur around the shoulders and stomach
○ Claws should stay unsheathed most of the time
○ The eyes being more rounded and less of an almond shape
○ Tail being much thicker and having a blacker tip at the end
○ Ears being less triangular and pointy and more round and smooth

Some behavioral and vocal changes could help the Puma too
○ Typically being more solitary and skittish often avoiding contact with either other pumas or humans but still having the chance to attack the player
○ They should also get the Bengal tiger and Snow leopard treatment having smaller populations across all maps possibly 16-20 individuals per map
○ Being ambush predators they shouldn't be running down their prey like they currently do in game they should sneak more before attacking or getting the jump on something
○ Pumas should have more distinct vocalizations as seen in the videos linked
https://youtube.com/shorts/cGU5PSZayiQ?si=YsQb08txJz34RNj8
https://youtube.com/shorts/KgP96GiiXu8?si=8jRaeo2wxT7mKIx0
https://youtube.com/shorts/Vlk_0fgrOnk?si=Y3N7tw1ISx2gmof_

[blazing rock]

Bmup

[cunning cape]

Rahhh 59/60 🗣‼️

[blazing rock]

Check again

[cunning cape]

It seems it has hit 60 ty mihizzle

[cunning cape]

Updating this thread once again due to something I completely forgot to bring up a while ago
In a recent update bighorn sheep have been all changed to "rocky mountain bighorn sheep" including the ones on rancho if those could get replaced by the correct desert bighorn sheep it would be wonderful and a step in the right direction for a rancho re do

[keen mist]

Yes to all these, and also not have bobcats spook everything except like rabbits and birds

[cunning cape]

Possible look for diamonds for coues deer and desert bighorn

[keen mist]

Coues deer is like a mexican subspecies to blacktail right?

[cunning cape]

Whitetail

[keen mist]

Ok yeah looked at the pictures again and those look more like whitetail. But what is the difference other than size?

[cunning cape]

Color, environment, antlers oh and are more high alert and skittish

[cunning cape]

On the topic of trophies here's some multi mounts they could add
Some I added from last time or re did the names and species

Puddle Duck Quartet(S)
1 Male blue winged teal, male green winged teal, male cinnamon teal, male Northern pintail
Clash of Coues (L)
2 male coues deer
Mexico's Monarchs (XL)
A huddle of a male pronghorn, mule deer, coues deer and desert bighorn sheep
Counting Sheep(L)
1 male Rocky Mountain Bighorn sheep, 1 male desert bighorn sheep, 1 male European Mouflon
Sonoran Stalkers(L)
1 male and female puma
Face to Face(M)
1 male coyote, 1 male Collared Peccary
Stalk and Strut(M)
1 male mexican bobcat, 1 male rio grande turkey
Dinner Date Duo (L)
1 male and female coyote, 1 male coues
Photos of what they could possibly look like ⬇️

[clear hull]

i support this, gib moar quail species

[keen mist]

Blue winged teal is a need such a uniqe duck, we are missing warm climate duck hunting and the best version of that would be desert ducks

[cunning cape]

One step closer ladies and gentlemen

[keen mist]

It will be interesting to see how they look like

It seems like desert bighorn will be skinnier, have lighter fur and longer legs, which will be cool to se

[clear hull]

from the trailer red deer are getting remastered too, higher poly model with better geometry

[granite oriole]

You forgot Coyote! Coyotes are in Rancho

[cunning cape]

Fixed!

[cunning cape]

I hope its not just the same model with different colors and the same horns

[worn arrow]

Ocelot (Leopardus pardalis)

[cunning cape]

Interesting idea

[worn arrow]

In the lush region of El Rancho.

[cunning cape]

Ill add them to the roster

[keen mist]

Hope it still has it’s red colours though, the red deer in the trailer were very very light brown

[clear hull]

I can consider it justified as long as there's ruddy coats as well; red deer irl range from nearly burgundy to a pale tan with pinkish hues

[keen mist]

That burgundy is what gives it it’s name, and also what makes it iconic except for the antlers and size. Ik red deer can be very light brown, to me, they looked like Caspian red deer which is a subspecies, but as long as the majority is red or brown i’m happy yk

[cunning cape]

From @tulip fractal this would be a great addition for rancho possibly opening up more opportunities for waterfowl 🙏

[cunning cape]

We got the new model the hope for a full rancho re do is high 🙏

[near bolt]

Absolutely hype

[tulip fractal]

Epic win

[cunning cape]

There actually is a visible difference between the two
Rm on the right desert on the left

[near bolt]

I think they have shown that scraggy fur of the desert very well, especially outside the harvest screen it looks good

[cunning cape]

The blue winged teal has the northern shoveler Hybrid added to its rares and the northern shoveler has been added to the species list(ty to bebal for showing me this and requesting it)

[hexed meadow]

Yes please, these would all make this map a lot more worth it

As I do love the desert aesthetic but the low number of species is what prevents me from wanting to buy it

[odd harness]

i already have rancho and enjoy sheep and deer hunting on it but i agree. It is an amazing map but could have so many cool unique species that would make it well worth the money. aoudad sheep would be an amazing addition along side other species listed above

[cunning cape]

Aoudad wouldn't fit and I had removed them since initially I was under the impression they were in the range where rancho is based(the state of Sonora in mexico)

[odd harness]

well damn that sucks

[cunning cape]

With the branch and rock mounts added in cotw id like to see more additions of species on this map get them
Rock mount -
Desert bighorn(and RM too)
Plains bison
Javelina
Puma
Branch mount -
Puma
All waterfowl mentioned
Bobcat and Mexican bobcats
Rio grande turkey(and eastern wild)

[near bolt]

#1241417134832222319

[cunning cape]

Im very aware of the post

[near bolt]

Oh shi I didn't know it was you, had a new profile pic and name and all that