great one

[hoary pelican]

Apologies in advance failing to make this brief. Hope this makes sense as I've been told I'm not crazy so far.
Everyone plays this game with hopes of finding unique trophies and enjoying whatever tactics they try or learn. There has become a clear and loud division between the grinding community, and the regular hunters. The ATTAINABILITY of highly rare trophies is very different from one community to the another. That may be a core issue and it would make sense as the culprit causing this division. In the Grinding community there is a sense that once one learns the proper methods they are almost guaranteed to spawn a satisfying trophy with some time and effort. In the non grinding group, many people spend their time hunting on maps for a particular species hoping to stumble across a rare trophy, which USUALLY isn't even there because it hasn't been spawned yet (causing a lack of trophies per time spent in comparison). There may be a way to make rare trophies (great ones in particular) similarly attainable and valuable across all playstyles. If it were possible to have say-maybe 2 game modes to choose from when entering the game.-(CONTINUED IN COMMENTS.

1st game mode being regular paced spot/stalk style hunting with the animals mechanics as normal, but with the guarantee of a great one on the map-(For example, an initial spawn go whitetail on Layton, and once found, hunted, and harvested - respawned as another great one - randomly on the map (maybe even a moose or bear which you have to locate and hunt if you choose). There are many ways you could do this and make it diverse and fit the playstyle.

2nd game mode being for the grinding focused players who enjoy the rare spawn rate of great ones, and their ability to go through harvests enough to hopefully hit their desired RNG.  In this mode animals would not have any initial spawn great ones.  Respawns would/could maybe be instant after say leaving the 420 render distance (to avoid main menu stress).  Maybe make this mode have better tent mechanics or something like that as well to make tracking your herds easier and getting harvest more efficient.  Some people who enjoy grinding can't grind a lot so efficiency would really help the playstyle if it is goi8ng to be supported at all (as was acknowledged by the AR .300)

These differing modes would be identified in the harvest screen of trophies to help those who care understand what method was used to harvest each great one. I remember a time when I wished I had the opportunity at a great one but didn't understand grinding. This is something many feel and don't admit as new or regular hunting players. many things could be done with the initial spawn great one such as going to a different map once harvested, being a guaranteed solo, or maybe even being one per new game. Grinders who enjoy their method from what I've seen should be able to comparatively keep up with the initial spawn great one success (not that they should be compared or competing). I feel this could help with the division, although I also feel that this task is probably much larger than I realize if it were to be taken seriously.

[sterile knot]

what would even be the point of grinding tho...

[gilded ermine]

Yeah no. Getting trophies by just wandering around on your maps is easy enough. Git gud ig

[austere olive]

What mihai and bebal said ^

[sterile knot]

also this used to be a thing... That ended up getting abused and getting initial spawn g1s removed

[austere olive]

The definition of "why we can't have nice things"

[hoary pelican]

did you see the part where you choose what mode you play and it displays it in the harvest screen? lots of people preferred the initial spawns int the past, but the grinders enjoy grinding for our trophies. also, some pretty highly known grinders have agreed with this message before I posted it.

[sterile knot]

No one enjoys grinding

[gilded ermine]

Why laugh? He's right. Grinding is boring as hell

[austere olive]

As a grinder I agree grinding sucks but spawn mashing trophies is worse

[sterile knot]

getting the trophy is the fun part, killing 5000 animals to get it isn't

[austere olive]

Exactly the fun is in actual earning what you worked so hard for

[hoary pelican]

no need to argue with that, I know an entire community of grinders who enjoy the playstyle and spawn 99% of the great ones ever seen in this game. you can pretend the community doesnt exist all you want. but i dont think this post is for you. if you arent grinding, you probably arent seeing great ones, and apparently dont want to.

[abstract meadow]

you don't need a different game mode when you can do both at the same time on the same map 😭 i'm just curious what's the main point here? all i'm seeing is that spawning stuff is bad 🥀 🫗

[sterile knot]

Yea no, not how that works

[hoary pelican]

this had upvotes all over the community a year ago, it was clear to people then, i was simply reposting it because it got so much support. It literally spells out how it wouldnt hurt any playstyle.

[sterile knot]

It would quite literally kill grinding

[hoary pelican]

looks like you grind

[sterile knot]

If i could have a g1 guaranteed on the map i would not spend hundreds of hours grinding

[shell acorn]

yeah, and you just gotta do it, you can hunt around on a map, but grinding is the only way that its attainable, and to be honest I like grinding

[hoary pelican]

You guys, the point here is to help people who dont want to/have the time to grind and never have a chance at those trophies. like it takes hundreds of hours sometimes and that pushes people away. for the record, yall look funny tryna flex how "you just gotta do it", while complaining that "its not fun". come on now, for the record I'm a grinder tryna help non grinders. this idea didnt come from nowhere and yall not even considering it shows a lot. considering its only gotten positive feedback amongst a group of the community in the past.

[sterile knot]

No one would be a grinder if you could have free great ones

[jaunty ingot]

There are more than just two ways to get trophies. Majority of my trophies have come from neither grinding nor running around single player. Multiplayer hunting is another very feasible way to get trophies

[gilded ermine]

what's the point of this crazy rare trophy when it's not crazy rare

[austere olive]

Glad to also be proud of my hard earned rare trophies

[abstract meadow]

shoot my grinding rewards look pretty good too, not sure why anyone would want these for free

[hoary pelican]

cool, i have close to 30, but you dont see me here flexing them, im tryna help people like my son who wanna find that big track. the guy im watching live right now has 249 great ones spawned LIVE legitimately. he agrees with this idea. your hard earned great ones are cool, but wouldnt make you better than people who dont have the time to do that, they want the chance to find the track on their map, and find a great one once in a while.

[abstract meadow]

here's the thing about that, the literal point of these rare and impressive trophies is that they're rare and impressive
if there was a way to get them without the grind, they would lose value because they're not rare OR impressive at that point

[sterile knot]

My guy i'm trying to tell you that your idea will have no one using the 2nd game mode, because there's no point

[gilded ermine]

hey if you want to get easy and free great ones just mod them in

[abstract meadow]

even more so, this literally can not be implemented into the game because a whitetail can NOT respawn as a moose lebrobro

[hoary pelican]

talking to the twitch community who grinds this game, they would all choose game mode 2, so you are wrong saying nobody would, only people who want easier chances. why do you think other games have difficulty settings, do you think everyone picks easy mode too? no, some people like a harder challenge. also if you are using multi, enjoy your cheated trophies. they can make anything spawn in this game. its literally just code, a special animal like the changing go example could be treated very much like a mission animal.

[sterile knot]

ofc they would pick the 2nd option... it's how they make money

[hoary pelican]

you are mistaken if you think there is more than 1 person on twitch making a living off this game.

[abstract meadow]

you're deadass pulling this out of your ass, the people you're talking to clearly either don't have a brain, or have never even played cotw to begin with
this would be a horrible idea because as i said you ruin the value of trophies completely

[frozen dagger]

TL;DR:
There’s a growing divide between two groups of players: grinders (who use efficient methods to consistently spawn rare trophies) and regular hunters (who play more casually and hope to find rare trophies naturally). The core issue seems to be how attainable rare trophies are between these two styles. Grinders feel rewarded for their time, while casual players often never see the rare trophies because they haven’t spawned yet. A possible solution is introducing separate game modes to balance trophy availability and value across both playstyles.

A whole new game mode? That’s just ridiculous.

[abstract meadow]

players should never obtain a g1 if they don't feel like putting in the time, it's simple as that 😭 it genuinely shouldn't even be a possibility without killing animals
there's a reason g1s can't be initial spawn anymore

[hoary pelican]

@abstract meadow what a cohesive arguement, seeing i am watching homie with 249 legit great ones live right now talking about this haha. if you get a lucky great one in 5 kills and call it hard work, while someone searches their map for a month to find a great one by itself in the mountains, and youll call it easy hahaha yea good arguement.

[abstract meadow]

no map takes a month to search
12 hours at most dude
and news flash, unless the streamer you're watching is ibuypremiums that mf is modding

[hoary pelican]

FOR YOU

[sterile knot]

Dawg it takes 3-4 hours at most for the g1 species

[abstract meadow]

also the person you're talking to doesn't automatically make your argument credible
and i don't think anyone is getting a g1 in 5 kills, and in that situation, it'd be impressive because of the extremely rare chance of that happening

[gilded ermine]

that's not even an entire run😭

[hoary pelican]

No its a different member of the same stream team nice try, and 3-4 hours to locate a single animal on a map without manipulating time, you are not being honest. some people only get 5-10 hours a month to game. yall thinkyou know everything while being wrong constanly.

[sterile knot]

But you're still not seeing the point, NO ONE, that doesn't make a penny off playing, would even care about the 2nd game mode

[gilded ermine]

are you okay in the head

[kindred warren]

i’ve only just gotten into properly grinding for great ones. i had little to no experience in how to grind them st all, and i can confidently say it took me at most 2 hours to check all fallow zones, and it wouldn’t take much longer to set up properly for it.

[hoary pelican]

you chose the easiest great one species to locate in the entire game, and used a grinding method, your logic is flawed.

[kindred warren]

okay, if that’s the case then i can also bring in this example, i’ve tried to set up many grinds in the past, whitetail, moose and pheasant, and they took me around the same time

[abstract meadow]

no, no it's absolutely not
it took me less than 6 hours to cover every single lake on new england (THE HARDEST grinding map in the game)

[sterile knot]

Brother we have maps for all the species in the game, we know their homeranges, are you ok mentally?

[austere olive]

Me with the hardest g1 species in the game

[hoary pelican]

you are so defensive but use examples that dont support your arguements. children. come over to twitch and try that logic in the actual grinding community. #1 live cotw player on twitch rn come hang.

[abstract meadow]

who the HELL are you talking about? 😭 like who are you watching?

[gilded ermine]

Except we DO😭 🙏

[kindred warren]

did you really jsut self promo your twitch in the middle of an argument..? that’s pretty immature yourself

[abstract meadow]

this you vro? 😭 🙏 🫗

[hoary pelican]

literally ibuys friend noobs

[kindred warren]

so what? just because you’re friends with someone doesn’t make you an automatic grinding legend, that’s like saying that since i talked to someone with a great one fox i also immediately have a great one fox too, your logic is flawed

[abstract meadow]

or drop his name? you look like a liar beating around the bush like this 😭 oh wait, lying? seems like something you'd do

[sterile knot]

Defensive about what?

[austere olive]

I'm perfectly undefensive rn ngl

[hoary pelican]

not me lol. have fun kids im out, yall got defensive about a post that had way more support than you have the power to change my mind about. not to mention made no valid argument. someone who doesnt know what species of initial spawn go they have will not be finding it in 4 hours without grinding, in which case they might have well chose game mode 2 so that it doesnt get boring and ez. peace

[kindred warren]

you were the obvious one who got defensive? we brung up a flaw in your feedback and you turned it into an argument, what you on about we got defensive

[sterile knot]

The passive aggressive HOLYYYYYYY

[abstract meadow]

or you could drop the damn streamer's name and not be an ass? 😭 🙏 you're just lying at this point brolio
we brought up obvious flaws in your illogical arguement and now you wanna go cry and whine that you were proven wrong

[sterile knot]

Even the neutral side agrees with us, it's a stupid idea

[abstract meadow]

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[snow gulch]

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[abstract meadow]

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[snow gulch]

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[abstract meadow]

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[snow gulch]

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[abstract meadow]

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[snow gulch]

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[abstract meadow]

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[snow gulch]

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[abstract meadow]

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[snow gulch]

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[abstract meadow]

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[gilded ermine]

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[snow gulch]

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[abstract meadow]

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[abstract meadow]

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[snow gulch]

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[abstract meadow]

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[snow gulch]

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[abstract meadow]

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[snow gulch]

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