Rapid Hunt pack

[raven violet]

Y'all buying it?

1 for yes, 2 for no

Personally, 2 for me.

[keen spindle]

2

[junior ether]

i have to see first how they perform before i decide, glad contet creators have early access

[rugged kettle]

1, but I buy them all. 😆

[glad raptor]

Im getting it just for the sks

[elder crypt]

same

[glad raptor]

I like using my sks irl. I think the pack would be better if instead of the 30-06 and 308 they made it an svt-40 in 7.62x54r and gave it another ammo type, and either a 9x39 vintorez with a 3rnd mag that is suppressed and could be used for maybe 2-4 game. That or a 5.45 vepr or ak with a 3-5rnd mag for the same class as .223

Since we are on the topic of russian guns in this pack it seems maybe we can get an mts-255 or saiga 12 instead of another o/u for medved

[unreal sorrel]

Just paid $8 for two rolls of cheap paper towels, so of course I'll spend $5 for three new weapons

[glossy tiger]

2 for me

[keen spindle]

9x3 would preferably be 1-3. I can’t see it being much higher than that.

[sinful quiver]

The 7.62x39 is great, but the other two guns are literally guns that we already have. So a pass for me until I've got spare money lol

[devout geyser]

I'm also buying it bc of the SKS & finally after 8yrs I have a rifle with a thumbhole stock. I'm still not happy about it & hopefully we made enough noise for EW to take notice were not happy about it & to be more mindful moving fwd. But we will see. If they botch the 7.62x39 like they did with the 7.62x35.............yea 😑

[raven violet]

I'm pretty sure if people pay for it they won't care if we liked it or not

[tired flax]

I'm undecided. I might wait a little while before I buy it or only buy it when it eventually goes on sale. I'm not particularly impressed with the pack because I don't particularly care for an SKS or the .308 rifle, and there's no 7.62×54R which is disappointing. The .30-06 rifle looks quite nice though, although it's a Vepr ir reminds me a little of the FN 49

[raven violet]

See I like the SKS because my dad hunted with one for years but the other two are just boring. I'm not buying a pack for one gun, I did for the .375 but that's because I've wished for it since vurhonga

[zealous badge]

In what way is it a topic of Russian guns

[raven violet]

They're all AK pattern

[zealous badge]

Sure, but one of them is the furthest you can get to a Russian gun

[raven violet]

Vague at best but that is the theme.

[zealous badge]

The gun is not Russian though, so it's not a Russian gun pattern, if it was the guns would be made out of cardboard

[raven violet]

Sheet metal

[devout geyser]

explain to me how you figure they are not Russian models? Please enlighten me

[zealous badge]

The 30-06 is modeled after a finnish gun.

[devout geyser]

SKS designer Sergei Gavrilovich Simonov in the 1940s. AK action designer Mikhail Kalashnikov in 1945 & released 1947. These are based on Russian firearm platforms by original design. You can try to say they are clones to make you justify it but all 3 are Russian. Idc about the politics or the war its irrelevant in a game. The point stands its a waste & the calibers should be 7.62x54R, 7.62x39, 9x39 etc. by model origin not US calibers we already have. EW screwed up and thats all their is to it.

[unreal sorrel]

I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised like I was with the last weapon pack - thought the .375 would be the standout but the .450 has been my go-to 4-8 since, so maybe the new .30-06 and .308 will impress us

[devout geyser]

based on what I'm seeing thus far they will outperform the existing they have hardly any recoil like the Fors Elite for rapid succession. I'm not really happy about it bc of how they did it. If these are using the same ammo with no muzzle attachment, they shouldn't be recoilless. Barrel length should effect range as well.

[zealous badge]

Which one of those is meant to be the 30-06? The 30-06 that is being added is modeled after the finnish gun: Valmet Petra

[devout geyser]

your missing my point that reciever is a clone from the original design.

[zealous badge]

In what way do they look alike?

[coarse fractal]

2 for me. There's already enough guns in the game. I'd rather give the devs $5 to work on a map filter

[devout geyser]

have you ever shot or field stripped an AK or this model?

[zealous badge]

Okay, even if they are similar, you cannot say the 30-06 in the incoming pack is a ryssian gun

[keen spindle]

Russian platform developed by the Finn’s

Not much different than Sig Sauer utilizing the AR-15 platform.

[zealous badge]

but the gun that is coming to the game is still modeled by the finnish gun even if it is technically a russian platform, its still finnish

[devout geyser]

I'm not going to debate bc you dont get the point. Its a clone meaning a knock off, a cheap imitation. Its like taking a K98 Mauser & rechambering it to a 308 when its an 8mm. Its a failure.

[raven violet]

Idk, 2 repeats covering 4-8 again I just don't see a reason to care. It could have been literally anything else. Like a Tigr 7.62x54r finally adding polymer tipped bullets and a baikal double rifle 9.3x74r and I'd legitimately buy it with no concern but as it is it just doesn't matter

Tigr 7.62x54r is a civilian version of the SVD sniper rifle. Has been used for hunting for years and apparently available for a ton of places outside Europe too

[devout geyser]

@zealous badge I'll be very clear here. I like the design, & detail not to mention the animations they are solid. My issue is the calibers. If your going to present any weapon I expect ppl to follow its origin. Not a sportorized knock off. The other issue here 30.06 has the Eckers (bolt) & M1 (semi-auto) - 308 has the Olssen (bolt)& the AR (Semi -auto). We did not ask for or want more 30.06 or 308 variants when theres alot more calibers we wanted to see &/or get. And we wanted variants for calibers that only have 1 variant or action. If we got a Single break action, Pump action, double barrel rifle, Lever action we wouldn't be as upset getting another 308 or 30.06. Hope this makes sense. But I wanted you to also understand where these weapons came from as well as some calibers they were originally chambered in before being altered.

[kindred token]

Maybe eventually I'll buy but after a few months .... If I can see some benefit

[raven violet]

I'm wondering if weapons from previous dlc packs will end up recycled as rewards for community challenges, we might eventually see all of them offered

[devout geyser]

I hope not if all there going to do is rinse repeat than its pretty clear the game is reaching its end. Unless they finally realized they need a 3rd title to keep up. Even if UH doesn't deliver they set the expectation & standard for future titles. Hunting Sim 3 isn't too far behind feature wise as well.......I really hate this I dont like being negative about content but after SP & now this its painful. I havn't felt this way since Bethesda released Starfield.

[kindred token]

I might participate in a challenge to get one of these .... Most of the other weapons pack I already have .... Not sure how well the old weapons packs have sold community wide ....

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I am interested to see what kind of rewards they will have for the community challenges

[raven violet]

I didn't enjoy Sundarpatan or the other dlcs since then. The only reason I haven't deleted CotW is its still more fun than WotH and I've sunk a lot of money into it. Every other update either breaks it, changes it or nerfs the sh*t out of everything I liked about the game. I haven't bought the last few dlcs and the only reason I bought the community weapon pack was the .375. I'm not sure if I will buy any dlc now. Two of the weapons are reskinned and the third one just buries my favorite rifle even further.

I'm worried about the summer map and what else is coming this year. If this is the only weapon pack this year then I'll go without

[copper kindle]

At some point I probably will. Not right now though. I don't really care about more weapons. The menu is already too cluttered and awkward as it is.

[devout geyser]

I'm in the same boat. My issue with WotH is lack of weapons which CotW has. Sundarpatan was a beautiful reserve with a decent game list but the story was very short & the reserve is not easy to hunt in. SP had potential till I seen ducks like rev & the 10ga. Pointer was worth it but the update made quail almost impossible to hunt spooking 100yds out is excessive. They also botched the 7.62x35 as well classing it as 3-6. I really wanted to like this pack till I seen 308 & 30.06 & my heart dropped in pain. This hurts. Like you I am worried moving fwd. I hope they redeem themselves with the challenges & the 2 new maps but this is starting to be a sad start of the year 😪

@raven violet If they attempted Africa 2.0 in this state it would kill the game......I am really trying to be positive & keep telling myself its just a slump & it'll get better.

[kindred token]

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I think Africa 2.0 will be the 10th anniversary map ..... So we are 2 years out and HCOTW will be archived (like classic ) at that point ...

At least that's my prediction ....

[kindred token]

Its hate to say this but classics inventory menu is way better to navigate than HCOTW .... the UI in this game needs a big overhaul

[devout geyser]

Most likely. Despite how it looks I'm trying to be optimistic & EW is just in a slump. Been trying to rationalize things as of late. The company is going through an internal shift, the games 8yrs old, UH is releasing a demo the same time as the new reserve & will more than likely release 2026 & if successful will pull CotW players day 1 with not only its improved features & options to players but horses and a true Africa experience thats "if" it delivers. So Idk. In my mind EW is in a slump & in panic mode is what it feels like.

[dim rain]

I'm prob gonna buy it once it goes on sale

[kindred token]

💯 agree about quail ... they are a big disappointment ATM ... I was really looking forward to recreate the days of my youth hunting quail ... and they don't act at all realistically .... Im talking about the NA quail ... not familiar with other species ... I assume they are all pretty much the same

[kindred token]

Not sure whats going on with this moving of Jaxy to dev team/beta testing .... Could be a good thing for the game as a whole ... In other words a sign that they are trying to make improvements in future releases ..... Obviously the last few map releases had bugs that had to be hot fixed ....

So I'm waiting to see what happens this year ...

[devout geyser]

I'm not disagreeing that it could be a good thing & I'm also hoping this year is out of left field in shock an awe content. Hopefully the update fixes the bugs plaguing the previous update as well "without" causing more harm than good. I'm also hopeful the community challenges actually present rewards we've been asking for as well. The biggest game changer would be to release a big upvoted reserve, an ammo update/dlc, horses, or a 2nd weapon pack in the same year that has never happened before. Or even adding big game & predator decoys. These would shift moral greatly.

[kindred token]

I think this latest gun pack was already in the can when they made the move to shift things around .... At least I hope that's the case .... If the bug fixes are significant and adding Tahr to TA is a good move ...

I still think having a small map mountainous biome that can only be accessed by fast travel from TA with Tahr and a few other species would have been very very unique without having to muck around with any species on the main TA map ....

[devout geyser]

Again this pack was requested by a small group in the community & I welcome & respect that considering the modern AR pack its only fair but it does hurt they are not origin calibers that would further expand use. But I do like them & will buy it bc of 2 weapons the 3rd is useless to me personally. But moving fwd I really hope EW looks at the feedback & makes a pack with calibers/gauges & models that are heavily requested to bring back our trust in them in this regard. & Lets be honest here ppl love the pack their just upset with the calibers and rightfully so.

[raven violet]

So far I've played cotw about 3 hours this year. If it keeps being so cut and paste I'll probably just drop it and wait for UH. Cotw was so amazing for so long and then it just fell off a cliff. This pack is geared toward grinders

[kindred token]

I really don't know who it's geared toward .... Perhaps new players that haven't purchased the other weapon packs ???? ....

[raven violet]

I don't think it's a coincidence we got a new semi-auto 2-6 right after the GO fox came out

[devout geyser]

Even if it is geared towards grinders its a good pack but a huge & I mean huge, missed opportunity on EW's part. But I agree they are in a huge slump the story narrative has been an upset after New England in my opinion & that is important to me as a day 1 player.

[kindred token]

I agree I think the 2-6 was for the fox grinders but honestly I have no problems with Foxes using the .243 or the 22-250 ...

I suppose some wanted something faster for clearing out zones quicker but again I dont have a problem with that ....

[raven violet]

I can't get interested in the last few updates. Nothing really applied to me and some it just screwed up the way I play for no reason

[kindred token]

I've enjoy the last update .... and the way the Pheasants and grouse work along with the pointer ..... But if your not a bird hunter I can see why it wouldn't be your cup of tea ....

[devout geyser]

yea but the 7.62x35 shouldve been the 2-6 on release they serious botched it & the 7.62x39 doesn't make up for that failure esp. since EW's MO in the past was reserve weapons were designed for the game in that reserve. The 10ga is defn. not appropriate for C:1-2 game period. Another oppertunity wasted to release a 410ga or 28ga. What makes it worse is 10ga birdshot was reclassed to 1-2 to justify it & yet again more ducks on a day 1 release for a pointer that is exclusively an upland bird dog with a waterfowl dedicated was the biggest upset.

I cant ignore that bc it went against everything EW has done in the past that was immersive.

[kindred token]

I will agree that ducks are way overdone at this point .... If I want to hunt ducks I have loads of places to do that already .... Please no more reserves with ducks or geese ... or at least make them very few and far between ....

[devout geyser]

If the 300blk was reclassed just as the Gandhare was I could overlook the 10ga but I cant overlook SP with the pointer. Before the update quail were a blast with the pointer but after the update every single upland bird spooks way too far away I recently have been seeing it with Turkeys. The only grouse that wasnt affected was the Caprii's. Now I cant speak for PC or PS but its obvious on Xbox.

[devout geyser]

But I'll say this if the 300blk 7.62x35 doesnt get reclassed to 2-6 with this update I'm going to most likely not buy this pack. I'm going to hold EW accountable to correct it. Once they do I'll purchase it. I'm sorry it upsets me to the point that I cant support EW to ignore it by releasing a similar caliber in 2-6 to make up for it. 😪 I've officially decided & I cant ignore it. With that said I retract my vote to 2️⃣ No

[kindred token]

Haven't had an issue with grouse or Pheasant they will usually hold in place when the dog points ... But quail still spook too far away .... I would like to be able to have the dog spot point a particular bird because it seems to be random at this time ....

In other words If I target a bird with bino's then the dog should point an hold that bird .... I know this is not realistic but when trophy hunting in the context of this game it is very necessary ....

As an alternative if I target a birds track then that should be the bird the dog will sneak up on and hold/point .... Also when the dog points a bird that bird should remain highlighted as long as the dog is pointing ....

It is a game after all and some abstractions must be in place to make it playable

[devout geyser]

I full heartedly agree but my issue is the dog doesn't hunker the birds down till you flush. Instead, the dog chases them & will point eventually but once you get close enough to flush the birds run away & rinse repeat. I shouldn't have to belly crawl to get close enough to shoot them. This was after the update. The day of release I still had to crouch but I could still get within 25yds without crawling to them over 100yds away. Grouse & pheasants do the same thing they run away & will not kick up unless I shoot the air. Its getting old shooting them 150yds away with the 22LR & 22H on the ground bc they will not fly let alone get close enough for the shot to hit. I've been using the shotgun tracer shot perk just to see where my shots are & sadly its like artillery trying to hit them at that distance which should never be the case. I mentioned it to support & I tried everything that was suggested & nothing fixed it. & I really dont want to start over with a New Game & lose my progress esp. My unlocks. The Rayo took me several days to acquire & it was painful to do. Not to mention the slow hunter leveling to get the points to get critical perks & skill's just to stabilize shots and sneak around. I wouldn't have an issue if I had 3 hunter profiles like most game for replay ability w/o compromising your primary. But alot of games dont apply it anymore your stuck with a single profile with auto saves & if the option is available your only choice is a complete reset. Some titles you dont even get that. Anthem & FH5 are a few that you have to wipe everything just to start over its sad.

[glossy tiger]

I gotta say, what a missed opportunity to have Three similar rifles instead of one of those rifles, a shotgun and a sidearm

One of those rifles, a Browning Auto 5, and a 1911 would have been an amazing

[glad raptor]

Maybe a remington mode 8 in 35remington?

[raven violet]

Was gonna suggest that

[glad raptor]

They could have at least gone with an svt-40. And instead of 30-06 or 308 they couldve used a vepr in 5.45x39 or something modeled after a vintorez for 9x39

[glossy tiger]

So many better options than what we’re going to get from this weapons pack. It’s really disappointing right now

[glad raptor]

Agreed. I still think the shotgun you get from medved could have been an mts-255 revolving shotgun, or something since we’re on the topic of russian designs

[raven violet]

A tigr 7.62x54r would have been perfect and could have introduced polymer tipped ammo too

There's also the baikal double barrel rifle in 9.3x74r or something

[flint crest]

definitely getting it. i need a new alternative to .243 and a semi auto 4-8 that isn't the zarza or m1

[glad raptor]

Maybe a 25-35 or 25-06 or 7.7 and 6.5jap

[storm wraith]

Svt-40 in 7, 62x54R and Izmash Tigr in 9,3x64 would have been my choice. The latter one would be very powerful

[unreal sorrel]

I'm liking the Reaper SKS in the teaser video, but the new .308 seems nearly identical to the Zarza

[devout geyser]

It has more audio & to me sounds better. They didnt do the AR's justice except the 300wm. 22lr has lower capacity than pistol or ruger, 223 is an M16 over a real hunting model & 308 is too quiet, not a good model, & feels horrible. My issue with the new 308 is not enough recoil & I'm expecting medium range given the barrel length. & as I feared looking at the animations these will out class the AR, M1, & Bolt variants with seriously fast follow ups & minimal recoil succession. If they had muzzle devices this would make sense along with the wood furniture (stocks) but they don't have muzzle devices like the AR's. I didnt even see the degree cut on the barrel on the 308.

[devout geyser]

To be fair the 308 has a thumbhole wood stock so its a 50/50. The SKS alittle to quick on recovery after each shot & the fire rate is absurdly high compared to any of the SA's. The 30.06 I could careless trying to mimic an FN FAL & its not an original model or caliber. That aside its too quick & like all of them not enough recoil given none of them have muzzle devices.

Final thoughts the pack is OP in everyway.

If the update doesn't include an all-weapon performance adjustment, then EW's defn. of caliber/weapon balance is........well you all know 😪

[zealous badge]

Dude you just complain about everything don't you? Do you wipe with a cheese grater too or what?

[devout geyser]

If you've been reading at all you should be well aware no one is happy with this

[zealous badge]

Sure nobody is insanely thrilled but nobody is complaining like you

[devout geyser]

I'm voicing it loud and clear & I'm not alone. Its that simple.

[zealous badge]

You are the only person I see in the threads about the new guns who is complaining other than in this one

[devout geyser]

All with valid points, thats what feedback is; good or bad. It counts also I've answered & replied to many as to why or how I see it the way I do. i'm in no way offending anyone directly for likeing the pack or its content. I've also pointed out the good things about it as well as flaws & benefits to every release since launch. But dont get upset bc I'm voicing out loud what ppl are thinking. I dont judge ppl or their point of view, they are entitled to their opinion and thoughts just like anyone else. If you have an opinion to share to change my perspective than go ahead and share it & we can have a civil discussion about it. That goes for anyone else in the thread as well.

[devout geyser]

Here specifically I stated the facts about the pack. It's overpowered & will outperform both the existing bolt & semi auto variants. Theres no balance control EW keeps preaching, & nearly everyone in, I think 3-5 different threads are very unhappy its 308 & 30.06 over a 7.62x54R & a 3rd between 9x39 & if I recall a 5.45 I think was mentioned. Even the OP for the original thread has spoken as well. On numerous occasions I said I liked the models & animations as well as my concerns with it that also ties into the masses point caliber & another Semi-auto pack. Me personally my biggest issue is the 7.62x39 being 2-6 while the 7.62x35 is a 3-6 when both should be 2-6 bc they are identical. & I've explained why in detail and I'll keep saying it: •1. To see it corrected. •2. To get EW's attention to pay more attention to detail to avoid future oversights. I know several threads all with various topics that are loud & should not be ignored. Its that simple. If ppl dont speak up & talk about it often enough the chat & feedback gets buried & forgotten. I'm not afraid to speak my mind let alone call things out. It might sound mean or cruel but its not; my response is an honest one. I expect everyone to be honest over sugar coating it. Its that easy an Black & White.

[kindred token]

I really think EW put no more thought into this pack than to say

" well we have AR's, lets give the AK fans somethng as well "

[devout geyser]

I agree it was added to pair with the AK crowd & I'm happy they were halfway heard. It was a small group to say the least but still.

[dim rain]

It's not rlly a ak tho

[vocal moon]

1 simply because I buy almost all DLCs (the only one I haven’t bought is the pointer because it’s useless for my play style). I think I’ll find these new weapons as fun things to mess around with, especially that new SKS.

[keen spindle]

Vepr is a sportized AK and the SKS is the AK’s grandpa.

And the Petra I neither care nor know enough about to understand.

[vocal moon]

I don’t really mind seeing them as the appear to only hold 5 rounds a piece and are semi-automatic. The SKS I’m especially happy to see as it’s a popular milsurp weapon.

[keen spindle]

I don’t mind either but at the same time…. It’s so bland. I do however recall people wanting some kind of equipment dlc this time around

[devout geyser]

I am looking fwd to the SKS (as a surplus addition) & the 308 (bc it actually barks & its a thumbhole) but I'm holding firm for the 300blk to reclass. If EW doesn't then well 😅 their out of a purchase till the next pack.

[devout geyser]

I'm hoping they'll release ammo or decoys if they do. Then again based on the survey awhile back its possible weapon slots could be an option. If nothing else shooting sticks, trail cam, & i cant recall the 3rd that was highly request feeders I think?!

[vocal moon]

There’s conflicting interests because almost everyone wants a different something every time. This hopefully satiated the AK fanboys and definitely satiated a lot of milsurp people like myself, but I would also like to see a future equipment pack that isn’t a scope or dog pack. We have enough dogs and plenty of scopes imo. As long as the new equipment isn’t placable feeders I’ll be happy.

[devout geyser]

I gave that alot of thought with the feeders. The only way I see it being a thing is if its part of a reserves narrative exclusive to that reserve.

[flint crest]

I really wished EW stepped out of the weapon pack dlc for a while and instead made some new base game stuff

Though I wouldn't argue if they gave us a .357 or .17hmr lever gun in a dlc.

[vocal moon]

All I can see them being is a temporary zone to create, and I’d image they wouldn’t even be that effective.

[vocal moon]

Well they have to make money somehow, and DLCs is how they do it. They try to keep prices as low as possible for us and personally I think they’re doing fairly well at that. I will say, the lack of class 1 weapons in the base game aside from birdshot is kinda disappointing in my opinion.

[devout geyser]

I've got a hunch the community challenges are going to offer highly requested calibers esp. Now since its back & is going to be an annual thing over how it was before.

[flint crest]

True that, but like you said base game stuff is kinda lack luster. They do DLC pricing very well though, on top of how often stuff is on sale

[devout geyser]

I thought about that as well as a consumable like the scents thats active for a limited time, but thats when I had the thought if they did introduce feeders it would be a passive interaction in a reserve. Similar to building blinds you get a quest that has you load up feeders and cull game. I think it would be ideal as a scenario if we got a Texas reserve for hogs.

[vocal moon]

Especially with packs like WP1 and WP2, which are still for sale at 3.99 USD and are on sale regularly. Still, I would like to see a base game rifle or pistol that can take class 1, as the only things in the base that can take class 1 are 12 gauge birdshot.

[flint crest]

And bows but that's even more of a challenge

[vocal moon]

Yeah and most people don’t hunt with bows.

[devout geyser]

I use bows alot in-game although the C:1-2 arrows need buffed. Its driving me mad with the Jackel bow hunt.

[flint crest]

Oml the 1-3 traditional arrows scare me so much with class 3 animals

[devout geyser]

Thats a bow I havn't played with bc it was bugged awhile back. Idk if it ever got fixed.

[sinful quiver]

The traditional arrows are absolutely terrible on class 3s. Like borderline unusable

[vocal moon]

The lack of penetration is insane on them. They should at least get double lungs if it misses the shoulder.

[unreal sorrel]

Bored with the Ranger, and the 22-250 bounces off of bones too often, so I'd buy the pack just for the Reaper SKS

[devout geyser]

have you tried the bolt with Jackels yet? I keep having them bleed low then dip at 50yds. But I'll say they work really well on turkeys

[unreal sorrel]

For me, all Class 2-3 animals are way under-hunted because of the disappointing weapons - ever see what a real 22-250 does to a coyote? Give me a break - give me some realism 🎯

[rocky musk]

1 only for the sks, and even then its mostly for the cartridge not the rifle.

[flint crest]

eh i'll use the .30-06 too. something semi auto that isn't the m1

[ripe rivet]

Definitely not supporting this pack for the reasons listed above. Was such a good opportunity to make 7.62x54r a competitive cartridge with the 243 by adding the penetration counterpart to soft points. We have 2 other rifles in 308 so why 3 just for ease of use or less clutter? Seems copy and pasted, someone said that. And the 30-06 I can't understand either we have the m1 and people saying "well maybe I'll use it cause it's not the m1" have no problem at all with the m1 they just want a little bit of variety before going back to it so I don't understand that logic when you can just use the m1 you don't really really need variety of the same caliber.

[dim rain]

But it's not even close to the ars, it's kinda like if they added a mini 14 instead of the .223 ar(I wouldn't mind). The ars in this game are pretty spot on with actual normal ars, but a vepr while technically derived from the ak platform, it just doesn't scratch my itch for a ak in the game, but now that I look at it from a different perspective, alot of people might like it.

[rugged kettle]

I wouldn't hold your breath. But hey, we're gonna get new cosmetics...🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[devout geyser]

I'm not but the 270 came from the community challenges so we will have to wait & see what changes they made to it. They hyped it up so. EW might be having a slump atm but I'm giving them a chance. They had a strong run for awhile over the 7 yrs. Last year was 50/50. Their narrative storylines have been very short & not as in depth for awhile & the Winter update I think was a rushed ordeal due to the oversights that alot of ppl pointed out aside from the bugs. The new pack again is great but was overlooked. But given the SKS & the fact its 7.62x39 has been highly requested for a real long while it was most likely bait to buy the pack with 2 AK based variants. They most likely released 2 existing calibers to save time, however. The Vepr should've been 7.62x54R over 308win. & the Valmet M-88 should've been 243 as to not repeat 223, 308, & 30.06.

[devout geyser]

Had EW done that I think ppl would be flocking to the pack. I know I would be but I'm satisfied with the M1 30.06 over the Valmet M-88 though if it was a .243 I'd be singing a different tune towards the Valmet M-88. The Vepr is the 1st & only thumbhole in the game that's huge for me & as a positive it has proper audio & barks over the AR so its a 60/40 for me given the detail although it should've been a 7.62x54R. I have no real complaints over the SKS & caliber except the class. If 7.62x35 is 3-6 then so should the SKS. However to correct the mistake EW made releasing a weapon pack that we were unable to use on a big premiere release during the "Winter Update" I think its more than fair to make it up by reclassing the 7.62x35 to match the 7.62x39. Again my reason both calibers are nearly identical ballistically & authentically rated for <50lb-300lb game by factory hunting ammo. If anyone wants to challenge me feel free to see for yourself on Hornady's ammunition page & compare 300 Blackout to 7.62x39.

[devout geyser]

EW has time since they already exist in-game they could switch the Vepr 308 for the 7.62x54R & the Valmet M-88 30.06 for the .243. In doing so reclass the 7.62x35 to 2-6 to match the 7.62x39. I truly believe this would revive the pack in popularity. I think this would be reasonable.

[gleaming beacon]

Maybe. The sks is nice, the “ak” is okay could have done it in 5.45, not sure why we need another .30-06 rifle

[flint crest]

I mean, it's at least a better replacement for the zarza

[devout geyser]

yea I'll agree the 308 makes up for the AR but I still feel out of the caliber options with the Vepr 7.62x54R would've been great. The M-88 a 243 over 223, 308, or 30.06 wouldve been more welcoming to see esp after 8yrs as a starter caliber.

[unreal sorrel]

SKS slaps 🎯

[dense trout]

1 definitely for the Quist Reaper

[normal bobcat]

I just don't get, why we get two semi-autos in calibers for which we already have semi-autos in the game. From a gaming standpoint they bring nothing new to the table. I would have loved, if we saw new calibers. But by using .30-06 and .308 win they just don't have a niche in the game to fill. I wish EW would have used new calibers.

Audiowise the new rifles seem to sound much better than the terrible sounding Armalites (they sound kinda suppressed, what does stand in extreme contrast with them having a muzzlebrake. What an immersion breaker. This sound keeps me from using them).

Another immersion breaker: The Armalites (Zarzas) have huge recoil while having a muzzlebrake. And the new russian rifles have low recoil, while having no muzzlebrake.
Has anyone at EW real world shooting experience or have at least ever talked to a sports shooter ?

[flint crest]

Wish we got .303 instead of .308

[normal bobcat]

Also: russian pattern rifles with american calibers feels wrong. I know, there are variants on the market in said calibers, but they should have used matching authentic regional calibers, for which the rifles were developed originally.
The world is not usa-centric. There is so much more, than the usa-originated cartridges...

Don't get me wrong. I love the eckers or the olson in .30-06 or .308 ... but these calibers just don't seem to fit to those new rifles in my mind.., yes, I know irl those combinations exist and are a thing, but... a ferrari needs a ferrari engine and a porsche 911 needs porsche boxer engine.

[native bison]

If we will get 7.62x54R the Solokhin will become king of rifles for 3 class and will broke the devs f***k balance.

[flint crest]

What?

[native bison]

I'm trying. I understand that you want authentic bullet for the new rifles. 7.62... but 7.62x54R (polimer) will give us maximum superiority in 3 class. Trough a Solokhin 7.62x54, 3-7 class. The devs don't like it. It will break the balance. I think so.

[flint crest]

Ohhh, polymer tips for the solokhin. The soft points are kinda fine where they are, already really good for class 3. They just need a buff

[keen spindle]

I’m fairly certain the vepr (.308) was made with .308 in mind.

[shrewd forum]

Russian-made 7.62×39 mm ammunition. It is in a new rifle pack.

What do you think of this Soviet hunting ammo .22 Extra (5.6×35R)? The 5.6×35R is close to the .22 Hornet.

Medved-3 appeared in 1974 and was chambered for 7.62×51, the Soviet version of the .308 Winchester. Medved’ (“bear”) is a series of Russian semiautomatic hunting carbines.

Soviet single-barrel hunting rifle, 12-gauge, for future pack.

[unreal sorrel]

SKS goes clean through an Iberian Mouflon
Hansson 30-06 and Perry 308 are both solid and sound great - took red deer with both out to 300m, double-lung
Dogs doing some weird travel stuff that's new

[dreamy perch]

Did the weight of the .30-06 Hansson and Quist Reaper get switched by accident? .30-06 is 3.5 and Reaper is 4. I feel like that's backwards because the .308 Perry is 4. Wouldn't make sense for the Perry and Hansson to weigh the same as they are both class 4-8 and the Reaper weigh less because it's class 2-6?

I guess it could just be a balance thing. The .243 ranger is 3.5 so maybe the Reaper being 4 is just the trade off you have to make to upgrade to semi-auto. The Perry weighing 4 while the Zarza weighs 3.5 makes sense due to the wood stock.

I think the Hansson got to be 3.5 solely because the M1 is 3.5 already.

[raven violet]

Said it before, will say it again.

THIS PACK WAS A WASTE OF RESOURCES AND EFFORT OF ALL THE PEOPLE INVOLVED

WE ALREADY HAD A .308 AND .30-06 SEMI AUTO.

They could have just adjusted them and released the pack with decent calibers in comparison but we ended up with two half @$$ repeats.

If we had gotten a single shot or lever action '06 I'd have been extatic and paid for it happily, a BAR or BLR style .270 for a semi auto rifle would have made me love this pack. But there's just nothing to care for here.

If they had given us actually new weapons and not reskins with a couple changes then I'd buy it.

[sonic spruce]

1 but i buy everything for hunter.... I have it and the guns r pretty damn good.

[unreal sorrel]

I hear your disappointment about the weapon selections they made. Given that we got what we got, I just did a comparison across the new and old calibers - maybe try them out and be surprised:

-Hansson .30-06 is hands-down the best against the Eckers and M1 - vastly lower recoil and quicker follow-up than the M1, and more accurate and less weight than the Eckers.

-Perry .308 also has low recoil and fast shooting, but any differences from the Zarza .308 seem to come from the cycling mechanisms of the AK and AR platforms. Olsson .308 is more accurate at 400m than both.

-Quist Reaper 7.62x39mm is hands-down better in penetration and speed than the Ranger .243 and Zagan Varminter .22-250, but weighs more.

[raven violet]

Except that I don't care for semi-auto rifles at all. The problem is not the guns themselves. It's that they're repeats of calibers we already two guns for.

There's now 4 semi-auto rifles covering 4-8 and 2-6 is still lacking decent options. This pack is geared toward keeping grinders interested as if they're paying more than the rest of us.

We've had two packs of semi auto rifles with three very similar rifles in each while we've had exactly one lever action rifle, one single shot (9.3x74r thanks to the drilling), and 2 non-AR semi auto rifles.

I don't give a crap if it's reused ammo for most stuff but I want to see a variety of actions and style rifles. Just give me something other than a semi-auto cop out

Hey look, a .308 and a .30-06 that would have been unique

[unreal sorrel]

@raven violet I hear you, I use bolt- and lever-actions myself just because that's what I grew up with. I personally would have loved a Remington 760 pump 30-06 instead of the Hansson AK because my dad used one

[dim rain]

7.62x51 isn't the soviet version of .308

[devout geyser]

Think he's referring to the rifle. It's a soviet rifle chambered for 7.62x51 (.308) we all know 7.62x39 & 7.62x54R are the top 2 well known Russian calibers. Back in WWll most well-known calibers - US: 30.06, Allies: .303, Germany: 8mm, Japan: 7.7, Russia: 7.62x54R

[unreal sorrel]

I just used the Hansson .30-06 and the Perry .308 on Mule Deer, Bighorn, Red Deer, and Whitetail. Both are fine for all of them. The difference is minimal, but the Hansson has consistently better penetration. Hard to figure out why they went with both. Anyone liking the Perry .308 over the Hansson .30-06?

[devout geyser]

I like the Vepr more atm, it better suites my playstyle & preferred game aside from growing on me. The SKS unfortunately outperforms the 7.62x35 & I'm not happy about that specifically bc SP's work on Lynx for the 7.62x39 within 100yds where I only get flesh hits with the 7.62x35 within 75yds. I cant make sense of it. Though the SKS does touch at 300yds effectively while the 7.62x35 tappers off past 200yds. This actually makes sense given the barrel length. The Vepr though shouldn't be as good as the Bolt or AR at 300yds given the barrel length. Thats throwing me off. The 30.06 I dont see any difference between all 3 varient except the M-88 shoots faster with more controlled recoil with the recoil perk maxed. --I've been using the Vepr with hogs and dense areas its where I feel it shines aside from the 30-30 ofc. But for the 30.06...M1 still wins in my book for the feel. The M-88 is good but feels too artificial to me. But this is my 1st impressions using them. I'll give it more time to give my final review on them.

[marble moon]

1
Reason: Testing purposes…

[elder crypt]

So after a bit of digging, it seems that if the two rifles in the pack are based on the Valmet M88 or M83 (The M88 is in the image), then it makes sense for them to be chambered in 308 and 30-06, but with that being said I would love to have seen a rifle chambered either in 7.62x54R, heck I would of love to have seen a Tigr Rifle chambered in that calibre (The Tigr is a civilian SVD for those that are wondering) instead of having an additional 308 & 30-06 Rifle

[glad raptor]

Or an svt-40

[rocky musk]

I'm there with ya, the sks is by far the best of the bunch and to me its because of the cartridge not the rifle, I would have gladly taken a ruger american, m77mkii all weather, or howa mini action before an sks but they do have a history of being used for hunting in a good bit of parts. I enjoy the ak sporters much more than the ars but I'd still rather see remington 740 series rifles or browning bar mkiis for autoloading rifles, but pumps and levers would be way better. If they wanted to do semi autos only, a remington 740 series or browning bar in .30-06 or .308 and a remington 81 woodsmaster (Model 8 with a slightly different stock) in .35 remington would have been much more appreciated by me.

[native bison]

Q. Reaper 7.62x39 redundant for 2 class but the best for grind of foxes. The last two didn't give anything new.

[kindred token]

pressure

[devout geyser]

I mentioned it as well the Vepr could've been 7.62x54R since the SKS already was 7.62x39 the M-88 had 4 caliber options and 243 would've been the better alternative since we already had a semi-auto 223, 308, & 30.06.

[devout geyser]

for me a Howa mini action would've been nice as well in 7.62x39

[devout geyser]

the 7.62x39 is properly classed other than C:6. Its C:6 bc wolves are C:6 & no other reason. The 7.62x35 should be 2-6 not 3-6 which again makes no sense bc both calibers are pretty much identical in every way. Technically wolves should be C:5 & both 7.62x39 &35 are technically 2-5 calibers based on use and rating <50-300lb game.

[unreal sorrel]

Quist Reaper is just what we needed, so much fun - Bayonets Out for the SKS!

[native bison]

I removed 7.62x35 from all loadouts. I feel cheated.

[devout geyser]

I would justify it if the 7.62x35 gets reclassed at some point to match. It bugs me EW deliberately classed it a 3-6 on a C:1-2 premiere release. The main reason why I'm making a fuss about this is bc EW has never released a pack that couldn't be used on any reserve since launch. I'll also point out that 300blk was the most voted in the polls regardless of if it was miss took or not & it ended up being the worst caliber in a voted pack. The pack was supposed to be a C: 2-9 pack capable of being used on any reserve or future release so I find it bothersome they prevented its use on a premiere release rendering it useless to players. & I'll add yes, the 300blk is fine to be used on Fox IRL with 110gr ammo.

[devout geyser]

I don't blame you 2 things I'd like to see adjusted •1st: reclass to 2-6 since the 7.62x39 is a 2-6 though I'm shocked they didn't release it as a 3-6 like they did to the 7.62x35. And •2nd: Buff the Soft Point's a little. SP's shouldn't struggle with Lynx.

[native bison]

The next try will be with a new map in the summer.

[raven violet]

CZ 457 7.62x39 bolt action. 6 round magazine. Only issue is it's not a semi-auto grinder toy

[devout geyser]

I'm hoping EW reclasses it on the next update I really do or I'll call shenanigans. Its not what players voted for or wanted. We wanted a balanced pack that was versatile no matter where players hunted in-game. Again, I dont really care if EW buffed the 7.62x39 to be better they have a habit doing it often on new releases so its to be expected. I just want the 7.62x35 to be correctly classed. Bc the Hunters choice weapon pack was meant to be a 2-9 pack.

[devout geyser]

I love CZ's although I dont think a CZ should be wasted on a 7.62x39 but thats my opinion. I'd rather see a CZ on a highly requested caliber instead.

[keen spindle]

416🙏

[devout geyser]

that I'd have to go with a Rigby rifle if anything but I'd love to see a 416 along with 5-9 magnums.