California Reserve

[viral fern]

Welcome to Garnet Crest my idea for a Southern California reserve. I plan to make this a mix between multiple biomes in Southern Cali that host a variety of different species and to be a paradise for North American bird hunters from waterfowl to upland and much more!
Biomes: Dark Forest, Dry deserts, Marshes, Farmland, and Coasts

Credit to my friend Jokingbro for helping me with a couple ideas

Species list
California quail - class 1(new)
GoldenEye - class 1
American coot - class 1 (new)
American wigeon - class 1 (new)
Lesser scaup- class 1 (new)
Bufflehead - class 1 (new)
Muscovy duck - class 1 (new)
Wood duck - class 1 (new)
Northern pintail - class 1 (new)
Hooded merganser - class 1 (new)
California Ground squirrel - class 1 (new)
Common muskrat - class 1 (new)
Mourning dove - class 1 (new)
Band-tailed pigeon - class 1 (new)
Ring-Necked Pheasant - class 1
Western Spotted Skunk - class 1(new)
Coyote - class 2
Gray fox - class 2
Red fox - class 2
Bobcat - class 2 (no longer spooks other predators)
American badger - class 2 (new)
Pronghorn - class 4 (brought back up since the class 3 change was not needed)
Mule deer - class 5
Puma - class 5
Tule Elk - Class 6 (new)
Black bear - Class 7

[idle oar]

bibbybollyjoe

[reef urchin]

It is an interesting choice to leave out the only species I’d personally want a California map for, Tule Elk

[viral fern]

My idea for this hypothetical California map is to be mainly farmland desert oasis small forest and marshes similar to Mississippi acres and salzwizen

[idle oar]

looks cool

[viral fern]

I considered tule elk but the amount of waterfowl and small game I wanted to add I thought of this being something smaller(similar to how salz is) but I'll likely remove a species in place for tule elk as I mentioned the species list isn't final and there will likely be changes

Just me getting started on this and leaving the foundation

Also was considering red fox and pheasant to add more g1s to spice up the map but I don't want to overbloat the species list

[tender oxide]

Pretty much the same as I did with Frontier Park [C:1-3] but I focused more on Upland birds & Furbearers. But I also posted a 2nd option with [C:1-7] Game. Might not hurt to present a list for both while keeping the exclusive species to that location. Just food for thought.

[glass sinew]

Agreed! Definitely would love to see Elk on a California map.

[tender oxide]

The issue I see with our US locations is alot of copy & paste over presenting exclusives that make a location special. Keep in mind fillers (Backfills) aren't bad if it fits but too many it'll take away from the shock & awe that makes it unique. That goes for EU reserves as well unfortunately. Disclaimer doesn't mean its not still fun but the community shifts have been really loud about it bc of the copy & past due to the lack of Newer Species.

[glass sinew]

I would personally rather have a British Columbia map, but a California map would introduce enough new species that i personally feel it wouldn't be copy and paste. It also could have some great beach and old growth forest biomes.

[reef urchin]

I can’t even remember the last time Tule Elk were featured in a hunting game

[tender oxide]

I dont disagree. I figured at least 6-7 US reserves would cover our biomes and wide range of game across the Country. If I see another US location I'd like to see a true Western reserve or even the Dakotas before a coastal state. But I agree EW should shift to other world locations before doing another US location & do it Justice.

CA is a great location but moving fwd on US reserves I'd like to see more exclusive species specific to that area

[glass sinew]

Yea Idaho, Dakotas or Utah would be pretty sweet.

[tender oxide]

Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, & the Dakotas all have there fair share to expand furbearers & uplands exclusive to those states along with oppertunity to add species we only have 1 reserve for. Blacktail & Pronghorn are just 2 examples.

and I think CA have Blacktail dont they?

[glass sinew]

They do have Blacktail. I would love a Blacktail G1.
I 100 percent would search through the California old growth forest for a Blacktail G1.

[reef urchin]

Make it so you can only use non lead projectiles too

[tender oxide]

Good opportunity for EW to add an ammo expansion DLC as well.

[tender oxide]

See thats where I stand on US locations. Like I understand we want our home locations in - game but I really want locations that allows players to hunt our various species at ea. Location over every location having the same species. Like moose EW went nuts with locations for huntin moose. This isn't bad but when you do it with several species it takes away from new species that could've been added. Which were no strangers to EW missing out on opportunities.

[tender oxide]

Now as for the post itself its perfectly reasonable to have an SP inspired reserve although 3 [C:3-5] Medium game & 2 [C6-8] Large game leaves 12- 14 species for [C:1-2] Waterfowl, Upland, & Small Game. - Edit 10 [C:1-2] Game since SP has 15 species.

EW missed the mark on SP for C:3-5 for Roe, Fallow, & Boar w/o taking away from the birds and furbearers. Although I'm pretty confident Germany has more Upland Birds that could've been considered to further apply the pointers use as well. Again I like the reserve but I like to see where they could've improved.

[viral fern]

Blacktail and muleys

Mostly mule deer at least the part I'm from

But I did the entire bigger species thing before on a different thread which I now abandoned and it only felt like it was pure repeats

But this new idea is me doing a re do with a better way to implement it

[tender oxide]

That can work imo. Blacktail, Mule, & Tule. Then between the furbearer, upland, & waterfowl its fairly balanced offering abit of everything that appeals to every players niche.

[viral fern]

Might try to squeeze those in if possible but still gonna axe some other species that I feel would be way better on other maps

[tender oxide]

Thats fair like I said exclusive species native there is a selling point. Everyone loves Mule Deer, Blacktail are only on Layton, & idk about Tule Elk never hunted in Cali so I'm going to take chats word on it.

[tender oxide]

which Skunk Stripped? I'm asking bc wyoming has spotted as well.

[viral fern]

Yes was going with spotted skunk originally

But spoilers may be one of the species to get the boot we'll see

[tender oxide]

yea there tiny little guys

[viral fern]

Oh wait showing off the new species lol forgot to

[tender oxide]

I'd dock Grey Fox, skunk, & ground squirrels. If you're looking at marsh biomes Muskrats might be better

I had the same thought & replaced ground squirrels for Prairie dogs on my reserve.

[viral fern]

A mix of Marsh biomes agricultural farmland and rocky desert that's my current plan that's why foxes and ground squirrels are there (also a good way to add squirrels without a tree climbing mechanic) might give beavers the nuke and just replace them with muskrat

[tender oxide]

Marmots might be better...at least I believe Cali has them

[viral fern]

Not to my knowledge we don't may look into marmot populations but trying to not to go over the 20 species limit so I'm being careful with what I add

[tender oxide]

I know alot of ppl have been requesting them which is why I brought it up. I personally wouldn't mind ground squirrels, but they are tiny. Not trying to tell you how to post your reserve I'm just expressing my opinion 😅

[viral fern]

Honestly I like criticism and ideas from other people that's the entire point of the thread it's a community bringing ideas together

[tender oxide]

& I get the cap I pushed 20 on mine but with my predator update proposal it reduces their population to make room for more species within reason.....that is if the dev's approve it 😅

[viral fern]

Most of the species on mine are waterfowl aren't gonna be all over the map so I can probably squeeze in more land species

[tender oxide]

However looking back at the updated list at 21 with appropriate pop balance this is plenty fair imo.

Esp. with a 2/3 to Full size reserve this can work.

[tender oxide]

I think its well-balanced as is too many more might affect overall population #'s

[glad echo]

mmmm desert

[quartz pagoda]

I fully want this to happen

Mostly bc it has some species i really want in the game

[undone rivet]

me want more duck

[glad echo]

i see these shites daily way more destructive than groundhog

[viral fern]

The amount of times I've almost slipped because of a burrow

Garnet Crest - Southern California

[viral fern]

Now that I've introduced the new species let me show off potential new gear that could come with the map

As for callers I am starting off with the pheasant caller by mimicking the sounds made by a pheasant, most commonly its "greeting call," to attract nearby birds by simulating a familiar sound, which can then entice them to come closer or could be used as a way to get pheasants to give a away their position when they are hidden in dense brush

Effective range - 180-200 meters

And finally the goose flag lures a surprising thing that currently isn't in game(since the hunter classic already has them) could be a good addition to any goose hunters that are needing another way to bring geese a commonly used equipment for goose hunting all over

(Adds a separate goose flag for every separate goose species currently in game)

[viral fern]

Further work is on the way just trying to make a map and the G1 concept

In the meantime I will create ideas for multi mounts

[viral fern]

After some debating I have decided to remove the common raccoon and add pronghorn since I feel it is a more popular species in this game

And also replacing the white fronted goose with the puma because a bigger predator on this map would be better and I believe that we have enough waterfowl on this map

[glad echo]

cant lie never seen a raccoon where im at, just hordes of opossum

[viral fern]

I see plenty of raccs at least where I am from

[glad echo]

mind giving a general location? idm saying i'm from Bakersfield

[viral fern]

Eyy same well more nearby not exactly there lol kinda weird seeing someone actually from there

[glad echo]

lmao interesting

[viral fern]

I've fully finished with the map logo, map layout, and G1 concepts but I feel as if a more detailed introduction to the newer species would be better to get the point across so I'll be working on those

Just been busy with multiple things so I might pop in and out posting stuff in this thread but hopefully everything comes out nicely

[glad echo]

ooo interesting

[viral fern]

California quail (Callipelpa Californica)
Class: 1
Levels/difficultly: 1-3
Behaviors and habitats
Behavior: usually in small groups with 1-2 males and 3-4 females, or found sometimes in pairs, very social birds that flee and the slightest sense of danger, often resting in shaded locations
Habitats: found in fields foraging for food or found in dense brush within the forested areas of the reserve
Plumage types
Common: Gray(male exclusive), Brown (Female exclusive)
Rare: white
Very rare: Hybrid variation 1 and 2 (mix between a Bobwhite Quail and a California Quail)
How to hunt
You need to shoot these birds out of the air to gain full score like pheasants and other quail already in game grounding the animal will result in ruining the harvest

Tule Elk(Cervus Canadensis Nannodes)
Class: 6
Levels/difficulty: 1-5
Behaviors and habitats
Behavior: Typically males are found alone or with a group of cow elk, cow elk are always found in groups, a rather vocal elk species with a haunting, screechy sounding bugle that can be heard for miles
Habitat: Found in deserty rocky mountains, or forested areas of the reserve
Fur types
Common: Buffy Brown, Dark brown, orange
Rare: Piebald
Very rare: Albino
Recommended gear Elk caller

[viral fern]

American Badger (Taxidea Taxus)
Class: 2
Levels/difficulty: 1-5
Behaviors and habitats
Behavior: a feisty critter that is a burrower that prefers to be alone
Habitats: found in fields and forested areas of the reserve
Fur types
Common: black, gray
Uncommon: buff
Rare: leucistic, erythristic
Very rare: Albino
Recommended gear predator jackrabbit caller

[viral fern]

Western Spotted Skunk(Spilogale Gracilis)
Class: 1
Levels/difficulty: 1-3
Behaviors and habitats
Behaviors: a small nocturnal animal that appears cute but when threatened it will stand up on its hind legs and spray(perhaps damaging, increasing the scent of players, or removing the scent eliminator effect)
Habitats: found in forested areas of the reserve or found in deserty rocky mountain areas
Fur types
Common: Spotted, dark Spotted
Rare: chocolate, lavender (keep in mind some of the photos may not be spotted skunks but I liked the fur colors and they are skunks so it's hypothetical)

[viral fern]

Common Muskrat(Ondatra zibethicus)
Class:1
Levels/difficulty:1-3
Behaviors and habitats
Behavior: a small semi aquatic rodent that spends alot of time in water will dive underwater if spooked
Habitats: Marshes
Fur types
Common: Brown, Light brown
Uncommon: Red-Brown
Rare: Jet-black,White, albino

California Ground Squirrel(Otospermophilus beechey)
Class: 1
Difficulty/level:1-3
Behaviors and Habitats
Behavior: a small burrowing squirrel species that is very skittish and will flee at the first sign of the danger
Habitats: Fields and desert rocky mountains
Fur types
Common: Tan, Brown, Gray
Rare: Black, Mottled

[viral fern]

American Coot (Fulica Americana)
Class: 1
Levels/difficulty: 1-3
Behaviors and Habitats
Behavior: a rather territorial and social bird that is found in larger groups
Habitat: marshes and lakes
Plumage types
Common: Black, Dark-Gray
Rare: Leucistic variation 1 and 2

[foggy dagger]

Only issue it’s California not Texas other than that WOOD DUCK MAKE ME GO HAPPPY

[viral fern]

California is where I'm from and we have a lot of unique species that could be added to the game

American Wigeon (Mareca Americana)
Class: 1
Difficulty/level: 1-3
Behavior and habitats
Behavior: wary and skittish found in pairs or groups
Habitat: found in marshes and slow moving river systems
Plumage types
Common: Green(male), brown(female)
Rare: eclipse, leucistic
Very rare: Hybrid 1(Mallard American wigeon cross), Hybrid 2 (Eurasian wigeon American wigeon cross)
Recommended gear: beacon deluxe duck caller, American wigeon decoy

[viral fern]

Muscovy Duck(Cairina Moschata)
Class: 1
Difficultly/Level: 1-5
Behavior and habitats
Behavior: a social duck species that has low frequency calls often seen as ugly yet interesting
Habitats: marshes, ponds and rivers
Plumage types
Common: Pied,Blue, Green
Uncommon: bronze, white
Rare: black, barred, chocolate
Very rare: Lavender
Recommended gear: Muscovy duck decoys

[foggy dagger]

Oh my god this is amazing

[viral fern]

Wood Duck(Aix Sponsa)
Class: 1
Difficulty/Level: 1-3
Behavior and habitats
Behavior: social, often nesting in tree cavities, often found swimming/diving, and skittish
Habitats: Freshwater lakes, marshes
Plumage types
Common: Green(males), brown(females)
Rare: Leucistic, Cinnamon
Very rare: Hyrbid(Mallard wood duck cross)
Recommended gear: Beacon deluxe duck caller, Wood Duck decoys
(Had to re do it and remove an image)

[glad echo]

CA is where they breed the most

[viral fern]

Common migration path and breeding locations for waterfowl

[foggy dagger]

I see wood ducks daily here in Texas , don’t gatekeep an animal goofball

[viral fern]

I will gatekeep many animals

[foggy dagger]

Not u , other dude

[glad echo]

i didnt?

[viral fern]

Northern Pintail (Anas Acuta)
Class: 1
Difficulty/level: 1-3
Behavior and habitats
Behavior: often found in larger groups foraging in shallow water, often showing courtship displays that involve neck stretches and whistles
Habitat: small rivers and ponds
Plumage types
Common: chocolate brown(male), tan(female)
Rare: eclipse
Very rare: hybrid (gadwall Northern pintail cross), hybrid 2(mallard, Northern pintail cross), hybrid 3(northern pintail, green wing teal cross)
Recommended gear:
Beacon deluxe duck caller, Northern pintail decoy

Hooded Merganser (Lophodytes Cucullatus)
Class: 1
Difficulty/level: 1-3
Behavior and habitats
Behavior: found in pairs or small groups
Habitat: Coasts and lakes
Plumage types
Common: Black(male), Gray-Brown(female)
Very rare: hybrid 1(hooded merganser, Barrow's GoldenEye cross), hybrid 2 (hooded merganser, Smew cross)
Recommended gear: hooded merganser decoy

Lesser scaup (Aythya Affinis)
Class: 1
Difficulty/level: 1-3
Behavior and habitats
Behavior: a diving duck found in larger groups
Habitat: Rivers and Coasts
Plumage types
Common: Black (male), brown(female)
Rare: Leucistic
Very rare: Hybrid 1(tufted duck, Lesser scaup cross), Hybrid 2(Redhead, Lesser scaup cross)
Recommended gear:
Lesser scaup caller, lesser scaup decoy

[viral fern]

Bufflehead(Bucephala Albeola)
Class: 1
Difficulty/level: 1-3
Behavior and habitats
Behavior: typically found in smaller groups, with its energetic diving behavior with one bird acting as a lookout
Habitat: Coasts
Plumage types
Common: Black(male), Gray-Brown (female)
Rare: Leucistic
Very rare: Hybrid 1(GoldenEye, bufflehead cross), Hybrid 2 (Hooded Merganser bufflehead cross)
Recommended gear:
Bufflehead decoy, bufflehead caller

[umbral bramble]

Too many USA maps

[viral fern]

California provides a more unique species roster and adds many requested species than any other USA map I was thinking other maps around the world could be done first before this but if they want to try another US map they can try California

Regardless the US is a popular destination for hunters and provides more areas to hunt than other places around the world but back to what I was doing

[umbral bramble]

I think they should do at least 4 more maps before another us map

[viral fern]

Mourning Dove(Zenaida Macrouca)
Class: 1
Difficulty/level: 1-3
Behavior and habitats
Behavior: foraging on the ground for seeds, and forming flocks typically making that soft iconic cooing call
Habitat: often found feeding in fields or hunkering down or hiding in forests
Plumage types
Common: Gray, Buffy brown(males having a more pinkish hue)
Rare: Leucistic 1, Leucistic 2 ,white

[umbral bramble]

After that sure, California would be awesome

[viral fern]

I agree there are many locations they can do before doing another US map but I feel this would be a great idea IF they go try another one

[foggy dagger]

Texas map when

[viral fern]

Band-Tailed Pigeon(Patagioenas fasciata)
Class: 1
Difficulty/level: 1-3
Behavior and Habitats
Behavior: sociable birds, foraging in flocks at most seasons and often nesting in small colonies
Habitat: Forested areas
Plumage types
Common: Purple-Gray, Blue-Gray
Rare: Leucistic, Brown

[viral fern]

Ill get to it when I'm done with this thread just need to improve a couple things

Damn first down vote kinda wonder what that's for

[foggy dagger]

I meant in the game goobus

[viral fern]

Could have said that

[viral fern]

Since discord doesn't allow me to attach these to the original post these are the biomes I have in mind for the reserve

Friday-Saturday I will reveal the g1 and my concept for it is something I worked hard to make and come up with hope y'all love but in the meantime here are some multi mounts I had in mind to make

[viral fern]

Potential multi mounts that can come to the game with this map

Quail Quarrels(Size S)
1 male Bobwhite Quail and California Quail battling
Bugles and Birds(Size XL)
1 male Tule Elk, 1 male Band-Tailed Pigeon, 1 male Mourning Dove making noises/"songs" together
Prowling Puma(Size L)
1 male puma, 1 male pronghorn/mule deer depicting a puma stalking a pronghorn or mule deer
Coyote Couple(M)
1 male coyote, 1 female Coyote depicts a mated pair of coyotes together
Ducks of a feather(Size S)
1 male Goldeneye, 1 male American wigeon, 1 Male Wood Duck, 1 male Northern Pintail, 1 male Hooded Merganser, 1 male Lesser scaup, 1 male Bufflehead, 1 male green-wing teal, 1 male Harlequin Duck similar to "duck out" but with North American Waterfowl
Barely tolerated(Size M)
1 male American badger and 1 male coyote depicting a strange hunting pair that happens at times in the wild
Prancing Pronghorn(Size L)
3 male pronghorn in a huddle
Gotcha!(Size M)
1 male gray fox and 1 male California Quail depicts a gray fox and its attempts to hunt down a Cali Quail
GET OVER HERE!(Size M)
1 male bobcat, 1 male muscovy duck, 1 female muscovy duck depicts a bobcat hunting/catching a muscovy duck pair

[umbral bramble]

I hope not for a while

[viral fern]

Ngl Texas should be the final swan song not a Africa 2 just add a bunch of species you couldn't add before but that's my opinion

Also since you asked to ping you alpha @dry galleon

[dry galleon]

Thank you

[warm vortex]

So update I lost my original account and much more so that was a massive setback for this thread my apologies posts shall resume soon

[glad echo]

ouch, been there srry

[wise valley]

t seems there are sambar deer in Southern California.

[dusk oriole]

Central Coast, they only occur in the Hearst Ranch which is in the Central Coast region of California

[wise valley]

Ok

[warm vortex]

Would add them to the list but since they are only found in certain game ranches it's a huge stretch at least in my eyes exotics aren't exactly common here per say at least where I am from

I appreciate the suggestion though

[wise valley]

It is just the curiosity of me. I agree

[warm vortex]

Since I am unable to retrieve the concepts for the g1 I will just reveal my idea for it will likely draw this concepts again at some point but hope you enjoy it

Introducing the Great One Coyote
I am basing it on different folklore mainly Mexican and Aztec folklore/culture
Furs
Fabled Llorona (a ghostly white color with extra fluff with black or blue eyes)
Fabled Cabra (a dark gray or black color with mange and less fur and red or orange eyes)
Fabled Ahuizotl ( a grayish blue color with black eyes)
Fabled CuCuy (a ghostly gray color with blue eyes)
Fabled Catrina (similar to any Fabled skull or Fabled Glacier on past Great ones)
Fabled Lechuza ( a chocolate brown/orange color with bright orange eyes)
Fabled Cipactli (a grayish green color with yellow eyes)
Fabled Cream (this one is more to break the trend and to add a different color making a tan color with green eyes)

I am aware not many people will be on board with this choice but I believe the Coyote deserves it, they are an interesting species that could use alot of love
I recommend checking out #1184845232072818688 as well it is very well made

[flat scarab]

I know it’s a stretch but perhaps a Fabled Chupacabra variant where it’s a Coyote that looks kinda like a Xoloitzcuinlti dog. I know it’s not what the actual Chupacabra legend looks like but it’s what the media portrays it as, so it could be cool.

[warm vortex]

That's kinda what I was going for, when I heard stories from family members it sounded like a coyote or dog like creature with really bad mange I was kinda going for that but the xoloitzcuinlti dog would be a nice base for it

Appreciate the Feedback 👍

[reef urchin]

I thought they were more of a Catalina Island/Channel Islands thing, no?

Unless I’m completely making something up lol

[dusk oriole]

From what I remember reading Catalina Island has California Mule Deer, Plains Bison and a very small herd of Blackbuck near an airport

[reef urchin]

I might’ve been thinking of bison then

[glass sinew]

I'm surprised you don't have Columbia Blacktail deer on this map. Especially with how bad they need a rework and a Great One.

[warm vortex]

I did consider blacktail for a while and did have them on the roster at some point but I feel like they'd fit better on other maps mule deer are more common anyway

A remodel yes but a g1 should be saved for something else imo that could have more potential than just another deer as seen for my choice for the coyote and maybe something else still thinking about it when I made this thread

Regardless I am unable to change the original roster due to the fact I have lost the original account I started this thread on so I'd have to remake it and find a way to pin it

[glass sinew]

I'm totally down for a Coyote great one. That would be sweet. I just know how small the Blacktail deer home range is so i think EW should take any opportunity to include them on maps that would allow it. I enjoy hunting them and wish they had more maps. They could work with Mule deer as well. They could have Blacktail to the west of the map and Mule deer to the east. I understand you can't change anything. No worries 👍

[warm vortex]

I'll be adding 1 new species to roster as potential addition the desert cottontail

And be adding the blacktail deer to the roster as well as per popular demand

[warm vortex]

If you also haven't already make sure to check out the concept for the Great One coyote as well!

[warm vortex]

After looking at a California quail thread I found out they have a leusistic variation that could be added with them over the already existing variations I pitched
Make sure to check out #1371644814717620265 the op did a great job with the thread and they deserve the recognition 👏

[warm vortex]

Im sure many of you have seen it already but in case some of you haven't and this map concept being not that popular compared to other posts check out my friend skye's g1 concepts they are well made and it would be great if yall showed her some support too #1334337122106347531

[warm vortex]

It seems Garnet Crest is getting a change In it's species roster being the wood duck changed to a returning species but this is awesome news 🥳

[warm vortex]

@haughty gate sorry about the ping but may I ask the reason behind the down vote? I would appreciate some criticism to improve this thread further

[haughty gate]

I don't think EUA maps can give any more variety to the game, this map will probably be similar to MA ducks and rats are not enough to make a map interesting, every map should be a new experience and I think all the hunting experiences in the United States are covered, this map will be redundant

[warm vortex]

Well this map is more appealing to grinders and small game hunters that was my entire goal to begin with the united states can still be had for new species we still got plenty of big game to hunt like bears, elk, and much more there's something for everyone you could have said the same thing about rev most of the new species literally were birds and it was still a well made and well liked map

[warm vortex]

This was a good point by Fuzion why I still believe California can provide alot for the game

Sure bird and small game hunting is not for everyone but this isn't solely birds and small animals

My main goal with Garnet Crest is to show the community that you could do something well with another United States map not the slop that was New England Mountains but still I understand where you are coming from another US map may feel like "ughh again?" But eventually we will run out of locations to go to and I personally believe if they do another US map California is the way to go

But still I appreciate the feedback and shall consider it more

[warm vortex]

It seems like the wood duck is not the only returning species getting changed the northern pintail seems to be coming with askiy ridge 🥳so that will be changed on the species list

[lament trench]

Central Californian here, chukar is a popular gamebird to hunt in these parts and I've heard they are hunted in Southern California as well.

[hollow ember]

This map could be an opportunity for black tailed deer to make a comeback to the CoTW

[warm vortex]

Chukar were an addition for the longest time on the species roster but I added so many birds I didn't wanna overflow it but I'll consider re adding them

@hollow ember they are on the species roster I planned I'd love to see blacktail deer get a new map possibly a remodel as well

I had them renamed to be columbian blacktail deer due to the possibility of sitka blacktail being added, also seeing that the woodland caribou existing and with the currently in game grants caribou further gives ew a reason for a possible rename

[wary cosmos]

Why is the OP deleted?

[warm vortex]

Old account still the same person tho being me

I lost access to that old account and had to delete it through discord support

I didn't get banned or anything just lost access due to the 2FA login thing

[wary cosmos]

Oh

[warm vortex]

With mule deer getting a rework I feel that it is best that EW revisits another deer in dire need of a change being the blacktail deer, with the change of having two types of caribou in game soon I believe the blacktail deer should be renamed to the Columbian Black tailed deer(Odocoileus Hemionus Columbianus) in this reserve blacktail would be residing in more forested and environments compared to the deserty environments of the mule deer

[wise valley]

Please change the Blacktail and Whitetail icons because they seem same design.

[warm vortex]

@cerulean elm may I ask the reason behind your downvote? Would appreciate any help with ideas or any sort of criticism

[cerulean elm]

I shall be so kind, you may

So it's not that this is inherently bad as a suggestion it's just that I dont think California provides what we need in the game rn, u think we need more locations in Latin America, hawaii, Asia and Africa and this one as a full sized map just doesn't feel like it will be super good,

[warm vortex]

This was originally meant to be a map as a final send off for US maps to finally put the nail on the coffin and was originally supposed to be a small map like salzwizen park but many people suggested to make it a larger one, I don't want this to be next or anytime soon that was my entire goal from the beginning I want other maps in other areas to come first and that's what I hope EW and many people on this thread realize

I get many people want exotics and I'm all for it just need EW to chill on the NA maps for a bit and add highly requested maps such as Japan, Africa 2 or anything else

But thank you for the input

[cerulean elm]

I think a small map in the us could work #1317631573776011324 for example but I agree that rn no, might wanna put a disclaimer on the top

[warm vortex]

If I could in the original message I would lol but I lost the original account I made this thread on lol

[cerulean elm]

Oh shoot

[warm vortex]

Yeah sucks lol but I would've edited the original message to add that disclamer

[leaden matrix]

way to much stuff

[warm vortex]

Have you seen every other thread? It's a potential species list im giving options for ew to pick themselves
also have you seen revontuli coast?

[tender plaza]

It’s a potential species list… Revontuli and Askiy have a lot of species too y’know.. Maybe you should try those out. And as Billy has said, some threads have 50 species lmao

[reef venture]

Could use more whitetail, red deer, and mallard

[rotund crescent]

That’s kinda how species work, there’s more than four in a place

[wide rose]

bro wants a medved 2 with 6 animals in it💔

[leaden matrix]

Revontuli has 19 and askiy ridge to i think, can any map get more then that

this has nearly 30

[reef venture]

Billy isn’t saying to add them all, he’s saying they are all possibilities

[wide rose]

reading helps

[leaden matrix]

Sorry if i made anyone mad

[warm vortex]

True I need to add moose, tahr, and Canadian geese

[warm vortex]

Recounting also helps. It's 22... and 90% of the roster is birds and small animals which surely aren't hard for EW to make

Some other species rosters people put out put 30+ so I don't see anything wrong with what I'm doing I'm not mad just saying that maybe don't downvote threads if you don't got some valid critism

[leaden matrix]

sorry i liked it now

[warm vortex]

You didn't have to if you aren't fond of the idea I'm not trying to force upvotes but I'm just saying for future reference

[leaden matrix]

i liked some of the new species that u added. and i know you took your time so u deserve it

[warm vortex]

I much appreciate the compliment thank you

[safe vine]

How wholesome

[warm vortex]

Originally from my #1379710865435267124 I feel like with the addition of pumas(in small numbers) on this map these changes could come here too

[safe vine]

When would the puma remodel happen tho? Because i can’t imagine they’d do it for a single update just because people asked for it. It seems to me they only remodel animals with the release of new dlc updates which now are twice a year, and the remodel being set in the current area for the dlcs. That being said, if pumas are to be reworked in the coming map, which map would it be? Wild boar needs a remodel too and it’s older so it’s more likely to get reworked before that’s why some people suggest Japan will be the next map, but idk work with me here please.

[leaden matrix]

for real, there model is weird and i hope it comes

[warm vortex]

its just hypothetically coming with this map I'm just putting out ideas for an update I made a small point about a blacktail remodel as well since both would are on the species roster for this map

[safe vine]

Oh dude my bad i thought this was for rancho del arroyo backfill thread, didn’t realize it was a new reserve hahaha

[warm vortex]

No worries I just repurposed it here since it also has mtn lions but same thing there with the rancho update thread its HOPEFULLY if it happens comes with it

[safe vine]

Yea it would be cool with mtn lions and bison there

[rotund crescent]

More than four

[low kernel]

i would make it so there are squrells like grey and red

[warm vortex]

We dont have red squirrels we do have gray and ground squirrels though i might end up revamping the species list a 3rd time

[wide rose]

"For knowledge, habibi"

[warm vortex]

Preach 🗣

[warm vortex]

After some consideration I have decided to cut down the species list these are the species
Species List Revamp
California quail - Class 1 (New)
American Wigeon - Class 1 (New)
Chukar - Class 1 (New)
Muscovy Duck - Class 1 (New)
Hooded merganser - Class 1 (New)
Lesser Scaup - Class 1 (New)
Ross' Goose - Class 1 (New)
California Ground squirrel- Class 1 (New)
Western Spotted Skunk - Class 1 (New)
Mourning Dove - Class 1 (new)
Band tailed pigeon - Class 1 (new)
Coyote - Class 2
Red fox - Class 2
American Badger - Class 2 (new)
Mule deer - Class 5
Columbian Blacktail Deer - Class 5 (renamed blacktail)
Tule Elk - Class 7 (New)
Roosevelt Elk - Class 7
Rocky Mountain Elk - Class 7
Black bear - Class 7
Coyote remaining the G1 and pronghorn no longer being on the map

And the map possibly being changed to a smaller one like Salzwizen park

[warm vortex]

Go show some appreciation to #1395028763015647363 By nobaddays they deserve it

[wide rose]

too many... that's like, 30 dude

[dusk oriole]

18 Species is a good amount, and with Tule Elk, a secondary map for Black-tailed Deer plus the quail, dove, chukar and the other bird species would make this an interesting US addition

[glass sinew]

Agreed! If we ever get California down the road, this is what I would want personally. I would want a big map with multiple biomes. California has to much for a small map.

Here is what 19 species I would want personally. The Elk all would have separate home ranges. Mule Deer east side, and Blacktail to the west side.

Roosevelt Elk
Tule Elk - New
Rocky Mountain Elk
Blacktail Deer
Pronghorn
Big Horn Sheep
Mule Deer
Black Bear
Coyote
Red fox
Western Spotted Skunk - New
American Badger -New
Ruffed Grouse
California Quail - New
Chukar - New
Hooded Merganser - New
Bufflehead Duck - New
Muscovy Duck - New
Ross's Goose - New

[wide rose]

Shut up billy.

[warm vortex]

Roosevelts and Rockies are further up north I was basing this more on central and farther south in California like the Sacramento and Kern range but I made this a small map due to how many people do not want more US maps and due to the amount of smaller animals I stuck to the below 20 mark to not overload it like I did originally, California is a common waterfowl and bird location thats why I stuck with mostly birds on the roster but if I could re do this thread from the ground up (including the name) I would

And with what moosedragon said I tried to add the important and unique things that can make the map actually stand out instead of feeling rather repetitive

[warm vortex]

Elk range in California:

[glass sinew]

I like big maps with multiple biomes personally. The 3 different home ranges for Elk gives the perfect opportunity for multiple biomes.

I mean my list has 9 new animals. It could be a great map. Hell the map we just got only had like what 4 new animals?

It's your suggestion so you build it for your dream on what you want but I would like the map to cover a bigger area for my wants.

[warm vortex]

I appreciate the feedback regardless an elk Paradise could bring alot of people into it possibly just adding Roosevelts could help

[glass sinew]

They could make Elk maps every time and i would buy them lol. You can never have enough Elk 😂

[warm vortex]

I love the elk in game currently having more wouldn't hurt shoot this could even be an excuse to finally remodel Rockies and Roosevelts

[glass sinew]

It's got to happen sometime.

I think once an we get a new Africa map more people would come around to maps like these.

[warm vortex]

Hopefully i think people are just pent up and want more content like that

^ to the top yk what might actually just copy and paste this and put it down here and re do everything again

(Reserve re Introduction)
Welcome to Garnet Crest
A large reserve in California, we hope you enjoy your stay and find what trophy you truly desire, from waterfowl, upland birds, small game or large game we host a variety of species for hunters of all kinds hosting separate biomes that each species resides in a variety of locations throughout the reserve
After some consideration I have decided to cut down the species list these are the species
Species List (20 Species)
California quail - Class 1
American Wigeon - Class 1
Muscovy Duck - Class 1
Hooded merganser - Class 1
Mute swan - Class 1
Redhead duck - Class 1
California Ground squirrel- Class 1
Striped Skunk - Class 1
American Badger - Class 2
Red fox - Class 2
Coyote - Class 3
Feral Pig - Class 5
Mule deer - Class 5
Columbian Blacktail Deer - Class 5
Puma - Class 6
Tule Elk - Class 7
Roosevelt Elk - Class 7
Rocky Mountain Elk - Class 7
Black bear - Class 7

⚠️DISCLAIMER(read this before you downvote): I do want more non NA maps to happen first I still believe CA can provide alot but just NOT AT THE MOMENT I believe EW can still touch on different locations across other continents⚠️

Also huge thank you to my three buddies Skye/Halestorm, JokingBro, and Tuck for helping provide this for thread
Check out skye's amazing art at #"GREAT ONE ROOSEVELT ELK CONCEPT ART/OPEN TO RECOMMENDATIONS"

Ill introduce the regions tomorrow but I must sleep since its getting late

[safe vine]

According to this list it sounds like sort of an american cuatro colinas, just that instead of multiple ibexes being uniqe we got multiple elk. That’s the only similarity tho and i think it could be very cool

[tender plaza]

I appreciate the support 🫶

[warm vortex]

Valle De La Luna
Translating to the moon's valley is a region in the southern part of the reserve where you will be first dropped off and beginning your journey
Hosting rough terrain, tall hills, and desert, often containing rows of farmland, vineyards and almond trees in a certain parts of the region it proves a challenge for stealthy hunters trying to sneak up on their desired game

Animals: Tule elk, California quail, California Ground squirrel, Chukar, Mule deer, Black Bear, Coyote, American Badger, striped skunk, kit fox, Puma, wild hog

Redfern Hollow
The second region explored in the Reserve where the player will be walking through after departing Valle De La Luna
A northern region of the reserve. Hosting a large dark forest often blanketed in fog, and recognizable by the state tree the Giant Sequoias all around the region
Animals: Red fox, Roosevelt Elk, Black Bear, Columbian Blacktail Deer, American Wigeon, American Badger, Striped Skunk, wild hog

WillowFen Basin
Towards the right side of the reserve WillowFen Basin is a Marshland hosting numerous Waterfowl and smaller species roaming about
A Migration stop or breeding location for waterfowl makes it a popular region for duck hunters as well as hosting a sub region of Coastal Grassland nearby
Animals: American Wigeon, Hooded Merganser, Muscovy Duck, Lesser scaup, Ross' Goose, Red fox, Coyote, striped skunk, American Badger

Alturas del Cielo
Translating to hights of Heaven, this is a quiet region located at the top of the reserve being the final location typically explored by the hunter
A high mountainous region in the reserve blanketed by rocks, mountains and forests a rugged environment for hunters of all kinds
Animals: American Badger, Rocky Mountain Elk, Ross' Goose, Black bear, Columbian Blacktail Deer, Puma

[glass sinew]

Alturas del Cielo and Redfern hollow would be where I would be hunting.

[warm vortex]

Species re Introduction with possible new information
California quail (Callipelpa Californica)
Class: 1
Levels/difficultly: 1-3
Behaviors and habitats
Behavior: usually in small groups with 1-2 males and 6-8 females, or found sometimes in pairs, very social birds that flee and the slightest sense of danger, often resting in shaded locations
Habitat/Region: Valle De La Luna
Plumage types
Common: Gray(male exclusive), Brown (Female exclusive)
Rare: Leusistic
Very rare: Hybrid variation 1 and 2 (mix between a Bobwhite Quail and a California Quail)
For full integrity you need to make the quail fly and shoot it out of the air

California Ground Squirrel (Otospermophilus beechey)
Class: 1
Difficulty/level:1-3
Behaviors and Habitats
Behavior: having the same burrowing mechanic as euro rabbits or possibly a burrow rework #1281956469037858816
Habitats: Valle de La Luna
Fur types
Common: Tan, Brown, Gray
Rare: Black, Mottled

Hooded Merganser (Lophodytes Cucullatus)
Class: 1
Difficulty/level: 1-3
Behavior and habitats
Behavior: found in pairs or small groups
Habitat/Region: WillowFen Basin
Plumage types
Common: Black(male), Gray-Brown(female)
Very rare: hybrid 1(hooded merganser, Barrow's GoldenEye cross), hybrid 2 (hooded merganser, Smew cross)
Recommended gear: hooded merganser decoy

Lesser scaup (Aythya Affinis)
Class: 1
Difficulty/level: 1-3
Behavior and habitats
Behavior: a diving duck found in larger groups
Habitat/Region: WilloFen Basin
Plumage types
Common: Black (male), brown(female)
Rare: Leucistic
Very rare: Hybrid 1(tufted duck, Lesser scaup cross), Hybrid 2(Redhead, Lesser scaup cross)
Recommended gear:
Lesser scaup caller, lesser scaup decoy

American Wigeon (Mareca Americana)
Class: 1
Difficulty/level: 1-3
Behavior and habitats
Behavior: wary and skittish found in pairs or groups
Habitat: WillowFen Basin
Plumage types
Common: Green(male), brown(female)
Rare: eclipse, leucistic
Very rare: Hybrid 1 (Mallard American wigeon cross), Hybrid 2 (Eurasian wigeon American wigeon cross)
Recommended gear: beacon deluxe duck caller, American wigeon decoy

Muscovy Duck(Cairina Moschata)
Class: 1
Difficultly/Level: 1-5
Behavior and habitats
Behavior: found in larger groups and typically being larger and found in a variety of colors
Habitat/Region: WillowFen Basin
Plumage types
Common: Pied,Blue, Green
Uncommon: bronze, white
Rare: black, barred, chocolate
Very rare: Lavender
Recommended gear: Muscovy duck decoys

[warm vortex]

American Badger (Taxidea Taxus)
Class: 2
Levels/difficulty: 1-5
Behaviors and habitats
Behavior: a solitary animal that often lives in burrows #1281956469037858816
Habitat/Region: Valle de La Luna, WillowFen Basin, Redfern Hollow, Alturas del Cielo
Fur types
Common: black, gray
Uncommon: buff
Rare: leucistic, erythristic
Very rare: Albino
Recommended gear predator jackrabbit caller

Tule Elk(Cervus Canadensis Nannodes)
Class: 6
Levels/difficulty: 1-5
Behaviors and habitats
Behavior: Typically males are found alone or with a group of cow elk, cow elk are always found in groups, a rather vocal elk species with a haunting, screechy sounding bugle that can be heard for miles
Habitat/Region: Valle de La Luna
Fur types
Common: Buffy Brown, Dark brown, orange
Rare: Piebald
Very rare: Albino, Melanistic
Recommended gear Elk caller

All the new species done and re Introduced

[warm vortex]

With the addition of new species i will be re doing the concepts of mtms to come with this map
Dinner Date Duo(M)
1 male, 1 female coyote, 1 male muscovy duck
Drakes of Distinction(S)
1 male American wigeon, male wood duck, male northern pintail, male hooded merganser, male green winged teal, male harlequin duck, male lesser scaup
Monarchs of North America(XL)
1 male Tule elk, Roosevelt Elk, Rocky Mountain Elk, Manitoban Elk
Barely tolerated(M)
1 male coyote and American Badger
Quail, Tail, and Trail(S)
1 male California quail, Male California Ground squirrel, and male striped skunk
Cunning, Call & Claw(L)
1 male red fox, Coyote and black bear
Stand off at Sundown (XL)
1 male coyote
1 male mule deer

Ill post more updates tomorrow for now i take a break

[warm vortex]

I have worked with @undone rivet to bring my coyote G1 concepts to life so full credit to her for creating these #1334337122106347531

⚠️ Keep in mind this is a small sneak peak and not all of them are finished or finalized but here are the ones that are done so far I was given permission to show these early and THIS ISNT MY ART I just created the idea concepts and details for how they look but still make sure to support Skye and her thread ⚠️

Fabled Ahuizotl
Fabled Llorona
Fabled Lechuza
Fabled Cabra
Fabled Catrina

These g1s are all based on Mexican and Aztec folklore/culture

[frigid epoch]

Mountain Lion Remaster and Massive Overhaul Rework…Maybe? There are Cougars in California

[warm vortex]

There are but not on this map i considered it for a bit but eventually scrapped the idea because I feel other species fit on this map more

But there are pumas in California but id love to see a rework for them I mainly wanted both elk, coyotes and blacktail to get a re do with this

[safe vine]

They are okay looking but they need more colour imo

[warm vortex]

Still tried not to overdo it and stick close to the source material

[wild isle]

would it be an big map or a small map ?

[warm vortex]

Big no point of making it a small map due to the amount of biomes and species

Need to make everything more sprawled out

[wild isle]

oh okay for some reason i always thought it was supossed to be a small one 😂

anyways i realy like the reserve (burrow update mentioned lets go ), i wouldnt be opposed if this is the wintermap but who knows ?

[warm vortex]

Ended up changing my mind like 5 times lol I was really going back and forth

And yes I mentioned the burrow update because it would be amazing to rework the burrows before this comes would make 2 of the new burrowing species(and red fox) much better

[wild isle]

burrows are such wasted potential right now

[warm vortex]

But yeah id rather EW do this map later on just make people cool down more from the NA maps and have the opportunity to explore other areas more

[wild isle]

imagne they trolled us all and the winter map is africa 2.0 😂 💀

[warm vortex]

It'll be such a great troll

[tender oxide]

Yea I'm pushing to have Frontier Park be the lead on the Burrow Update while also trying to get several thread requests applied. I added the thread links to try to add more incentive.

[wild isle]

yeah i saw that

[tender oxide]

I do feel that adding the mechanic will really spruce up existing & future reserves and species as a whole. But I have no issues with FP being a test reserve for it given the Game list. But I figured if I included the thread links to the main thread it would give the Dev's more incentive to release it since the last 2 releases had several threads answered when they designed them. Plus with it being presented this far out it shouldn't get rushed & will likely be a year or 2 to develop is my guess. All in all the US & Canada still have potential for new species & scenery to fill. With that said I would still expect other locations to be answered before hand.

[warm vortex]

Yeah US still has potential for reserves but sometimes EW needs to learn to take a small step back for a while garnet crest and frontier park would be great additions

[tender oxide]

US wise I can see 6 potenrial locations and Canada still has ground to cover. I know ppl are fed up of US reserves but we do have multiple biomes and even more game to boot. Canada is similar but colder climate species are more relevant their as well. Now I'm not saying South America & Africa arent species or geography wise but given the community's expectations I doubt EW would release them till they've polished their development capabilities. Lets be honest they butcher either one of those reserves ppl would mob together with torches & pitch forks 🤣 Esp. after all these years.

Atleast with Frontier Park it would be pretty hard to mess that up but they'll need time to get the models, animations, and mechanics down to really pull it off. But what sells FP is the late 1800's theme that relies on horses being released along with a well put together Western Weapon Pack. Ofc theirs more when you include an Elk G1, Fur & European Mounts for lodges, Burrow Update, etc. It would be a bonus to get the steel range I included as well. The one thing I hope they do right is the Narrative I want it to tie with our existing Wardens like Doc & his boy did between Layton & NEM. So it should have depth that I'd assume would take 2-3 years to design given EW's work lately.

Besides given the Game list here theirs some species that would excel with the Burrow Update & would benefit if we had some tree dwelling mechanics to boot. For me to really sell this reserve would be 3 core animal mechanics. Burrow Update, Predator Update, & a Tree Dwellers update. Having bears mark/climb trees would be outstanding & this extends to puma/mtn lions, & squirrels just to name a few.

The tree dwellers update I really think will likely be 1st scene in the Amazon reserve. The Burrow update I can see FP being the 1st as well. The predator update is the wild card that could be applied at any given time. But its a theory & prediction nothing more since EW usually tends to keep ppl in the dark.

Another thing to bare in mind as well is after Tigers if EW released Africa 2.0 Game aggression would likely be high esp. with the Big 5 being accounted for that would make my day if they included Hyenas.

[tender oxide]

But the OP has a great concept for California imho. The illustration is good, species list is good, & I think the reserve layout would turn out nicely. Kind of like a Layton revived feel to it.

[warm vortex]

Im the op lol but thank you

[tender oxide]

Your welcome. Unlike some I'm not opposed to any location that has great Narrative & species potential.

[warm vortex]

I never understood why people care about the location when its the species we truly are after its the main part of the game after all

[tender oxide]

The Career Story, Species, & behavior/mechanics is what keeps me interested & ofc Snow reserves 😅 As a Sim Player the Initial gameplay that each location provides is what intrigues me. I just wish EW didn't rely as heavily on repeating species as they do. That & Upland Birds & Small Game haven't received as much credit as Waterfowl & Big Game has. So its nice to see new additions.

[safe vine]

Yeah NEM was such a scandal for that, when i bought it i thought those species was new to that map then i found out all those species already existed on other maps, which is like how could they do such a thing? The map, don’t give me wrong, is my favorite map in the game but the fact that it has no uniqeness just makes me think of how disappointed players must’ve gotten when that map released. Please EW never again

[tender oxide]

I partly agree. I didn't mind some of the species being repeated but that doesn't excuse EW to not add new species that reside in that area. As I mentioned before some backfills are needed to complete the ecology. But imho I'd rather EW hold off on a backfill update till more species are added esp. in US locations. On the other hand I do wish EW would simply add new species just as they did with the African Lion but ofc with detail & textures as they would to newly added species. We wouldn't want to see a repeat to the African Lion model texture we have currently. Given back then it was fine but after 8yrs they took a big leap with reworks as well as map design. For me specifically though their narratives have fallen short esp. in depth like they used to. CotW does have a storyline but EW hasn't put much effort into it since EC. Nepal wasn't bad but it was really bland compared to the reserves at Launch up to NEM. Revontuli & Salzwiesen Park to me were tours not story progression maps like the main character went on vacation not as a hired hand. And AR the Warden was young, immature, and a bit self-absorbed to play a rather serious prank that put an enthusiasts life at risk given a blizzard was on its way. Now I dont mind mythical legends being part of a story but I wasn't happy that it was 70% of the reserves story.

[safe vine]

Yeah storyline is basically thrown away at this point, and i don’t really think NEM needs more animals i just don’t want that concept to happen again

[warm vortex]

Thats what im trying to make EW do here not have a repeat with NEM also showing the community theres still potential for another US map without constant repeats theres still alot of potential to explore biomes and species where you can't anywhere else or many other places

Trying to grow this further is difficult with all the wants for Africa 2 or other locations but the journey is worth it

I still try my best to put my heart and soul into this thread when I am able to because I am truly passionate about EW making this a true map

[safe vine]

I believe in you

[warm vortex]

Black-Tailed Deer Remodel
° Thicker and longer black colored tail
° White patch on the necks under the chin
° shorter and thicker neck
° straighter posture
° bigger mule-like ears
° Different antler color/Thicker less twig like antlers
° Having more mass than whitetail and being more chunkier

Also more antler variety please EW 🙏

Roosevelt Elk Remodel (possible g1) #1334337122106347531
° More fur on the Neck
° Cows having having slightly more thicker necks and bodies than currently
° legs being less scrawny and having more mass
° Fur colors blending together better(especially the body leading to the neck and head)
° more perked up ears instead of them being droopy

Rocky Mountain Elk Remodel
° Back posture is less wavy and more straight with a hump being only on the bulls

° The rear end being less thick and slimmed down a bit

° Antlers having slightly more thickness

° Neck fur texture on the bulls being updated

[warm vortex]

Coyote Remodel (Plus a g1 #1334337122106347531)
° Thicker fur, being less scrawny
° Males being larger than females
° Getting a size up instead of being fox sized to be a middle ground between foxes and Wolves (Class 3 change)
° Eyes made to be less humanlike
° Thicker tail and legs
° Shinier more sparse fur
Behavior changes
° Found in packs of 6 or pairs with 1 male and female
° More Nocturnal and timid

After procrastinating I finally got this over with

[warm vortex]

After some consideration and possibly very poor research i have decided on a weapon to come with this map (DISCLAIMER i am not a gun expert this is the thing id appreciate feedback into the most I did some surface level research and reading, I may get things incorrect)
Marlin Model 1895SBL
45-70 rounds
Covers Classes 3-8(maybe 7)
Capacity 6 rounds
Weight: 4 inventory space

Repost forgot the images

[glad echo]

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU

[warm vortex]

I just posted it because is funny and as a bump

[glad echo]

TOO BAD BJ

[warm vortex]

😔

[glad echo]

i just realized i never upvoted this, no matter how shite the state is i think it could solo rancho

[warm vortex]

The city part is pretty dookie but the country part is nice better than nem...

[glad echo]

im lost

[warm vortex]

The city part of cali is what makes cali lowk suck its all polluted and just feels dead inside but the more countryside of cali where there's more life you see nature at it's fullest it feels like a different state

Also this map is better than nem 🗣🙏

[glad echo]

oh i live close to the country you know that but im not that big of a fan. i hate desert and hot

[warm vortex]

Yeah originally this was just gonna be just desert hence the "Southern California" part but I ended up changing my mind and making it multiple biomes spread across cali and with my main pull for this map being the 3 Elk

[glad echo]

AND I LOVE THAT

[warm vortex]

This is what I HOPE EW does with cali just make it elk paradise instead of desert with a bunch of reused species(which they could easily do and make nem 2)

[glad echo]

rancho 2.0 no visability

[warm vortex]

I tried to stick to open areas besides the forested part

[glad echo]

i do love the idea of getting blacktail and mules on the same map too

[warm vortex]

I was originally gonna do a g1 mule deer but since everyone was doing that and I felt like it was incoming with askiy I changed it to yotes and im glad I did

I hope they finally remodel blacktail and the species I mentioned because my goodness they need it

[glad echo]

g1 yote solos anyway 😈

[warm vortex]

Even if EW dosent make or see this i still had fun making it and going through the process of what could be
And will forever be grateful for the 50 people so far that supported this

[warm vortex]

@opal widget Here da actual list

[opal widget]

double u

[warm vortex]

ELK RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[warm vortex]

Kinda an update as well with the feedback changes and everything truly being said in the post by vivi Ill be kinda be letting this thread rot at least for the time being until I come up with something new or there's more discussion

[glad echo]

Noooo

[safe vine]

Well just try to keep this updated as best you can yk, you see anything or got any good ideas or if i do i’ll write it here like anybody else. If it is a truly good idea it’ll prove in due time

[undone shadow]

@graceful egret

[warm vortex]

@graceful egret here's the top so you can read from there

[dry galleon]

Yesss please

[wide rose]

Frickin sucks nuts 😡

[warm vortex]

Ong 🗣

One upvote away from being the most upvoted California thread

[warm vortex]

Ive decided to replace the western spotted skunk with the more common striped skunk
Striped Skunk (Mephitis Mephitis)
Class: 1
Levels/difficulty: 1-3
Behavior and Region
Behavior: nocturnal, possible burrowing mechanic #1281956469037858816 , but a spray mechanic that either damages the player, removes scent eliminator, or makes the player more noticeable through scent
Regions: Valle de La Luna, WillowFen Basin, Red fern hollow
Fur types
Common: Black
Rare: Leusistic, brown
Very rare: Albino

Also im Kinda working on the map layout and logo but im not exactly happy with any of the results yet but it'll be posted at some point

[safe vine]

Spotted skunks sound cooler though

[warm vortex]

Striped skunks are far more common here hence the replacement

[safe vine]

Alr you can always have both though

[warm vortex]

I kinda dont wanna overdo the species roster theres alot of stuff i could add or have but I rather not maybe ill make a non essential species list for extra stuff

But right now im pretty happy with the current species list and hope thats what EW does with Cali

[safe vine]

Alr gotcha haven’t seen the species list so

[warm vortex]

I pinged a couple people to it if you wanna check it out

[safe vine]

Ok so checked it out, you know best how you want this suggestion to be presented so i don’t have any comments except if we could have grizzly bears instead of black bears? I don’t know what happened to them before but i guess they stopped being in the desert and nowadays they’re coming back to it. I am basing this on something i heard so am i ready to be proven wrong, but it would be really cool

[warm vortex]

They are extinct in California

The California brown bear has been extinct since the 1960s iirc

[safe vine]

Too bad, what does iirc mean

[warm vortex]

If i recall or if I remember correctly

But yeah its been extinct so the black bear is the only remaining bear so black bears it is

[safe vine]

Ah ok i looked up piebald bears to see if there were some and sure enough, black bears can get piebald

[latent dust]

that almost looks like a panda

[safe vine]

We’ll call it the American panda

[warm vortex]

Thats actually not a bad addition for a bear rare since wolves got new rares why cant bears with this hypothetical update

[safe vine]

Yeah it doesn’t ever hurt with more rares the new ducks got like 7

[warm vortex]

Not part of the main roster but some other potential species for the map that EW may put in or could be on the map over some other species basically a non essential species list
Cinnamon teal - class 1
Northern shoveler- class 1
Band tailed pigeon - Class 1 (new)
Mourning Dove - class 1 (new)
Blue winged teal - class 1 (new)
Gadwall - class 1
Rio grande turkey - class 1
Ruffed grouse - class 1 (new)
Green winged teal - class 1
Northern pintail - class 1
Wood duck class - 1
Brush rabbit - class 1(new)
Kit fox - class 1
Common Raccoon - class 2
Bobcat - class 2
Sierra Nevada Bighorn sheep - class 4 (new)
Pronghorn - class 4 (brought up a class)
Desert bighorn- Class 5
Most of these were on the orignal roster but got cut for other species

[safe vine]

Yeah something like blue winged teal or wood duck i would love to hunt on Rancho, so this map would show a different part of the desert (not because it’s in Mexico or anything)

[warm vortex]

#1402258908789346406 i made something like that too but mainly just for the waterfowl

But still I'd love more ducks in cotw mainly blue winged teal a small map set in Mexico or somewhere could be amazing to have them finally introduced

[safe vine]

Yeah would be awesome

[warm vortex]

California fun fact: The state of California has two state trees coast redwood and the giant sequoia both seen in the photo and would likely be found in this reserve's region Redfern Hollow, they are important part of the state and I hope EW shows some representation for these trees if a California map comes

[oblique burrow]

if they dont add them they could just explain it away with extinction via government ignored wildfires ig

[warm vortex]

Like rhinos on vurhonga lmfao

[wide rose]

This technically counts as a bump.. Ur banned bubs

[warm vortex]

Nuh uh at least im giving info about California and not saying day (insert number) till map ☝️ 🤓

[wide rose]

Wrong. Cuz i said so

[warm vortex]

Got me there bebal 😔

[safe vine]

What could be hunted in the redwoods?

[tropic mesa]

Southern California Reserve

[warm vortex]

Oh it was just a California reserve. Just didnt get to change it before my old account got lost.
Oh well ig

[undone shadow]

apparently there cant be ''duplicate posts'' which is stupid and wierd imo. cos now its mostly gunna be 1 about each thing

[warm vortex]

Yeah it tends to limit things a lot i understand so the threads isnt flooded with the same thing but it tends to cause problems sometimes with people with orignal ideas

[undone shadow]

and now the posts are in date order so the old posts wont be seen

[warm vortex]

Yeah and you have to manually switch it. And many new people wont know that

[undone shadow]

oh, i dont even know that ngl, just managed to put it back to how it was before

[tropic mesa]

With this as an example, if we were hypothetically to make a SoCal reserve, we would never steal one person's idea entirely. We would look for "do people want a SoCal reserve in general?" and use the general discussion people have around a SoCal reserve to help us understand what people would want out of a SoCal reserve.

If the feedback forums are to be useful, we can't have multiple threads about SoCal, some of them not even mentioning California in the title. We are not magicians, we need some sorting method. All your original ideas posted within a thread are considered. The main thread is never the most important, it's always only one person's "take".

[warm vortex]

Originally it was supposed to be the southern part of California eventually I changed it but never got to in the title when I lost access to my old account which was the OP of the post it was kinda a bit too late for anything to be changed so I just re did it from the ground up in a long text post after

[tropic mesa]

Okay gotcha, when people see this post in the feedback forum many will just see the title, and upvote whatever the title says.

I don't think it's a big change to just rename it to Cali though

California Reserve

[warm vortex]

Yeah its still California has always been but yeah thank you

[tropic mesa]

Coolcool, redwoods was a cool addition :)

[warm vortex]

Thank you, it's a very gorgeous location

[warm vortex]

What a possible diamond tule elk could look like in game

And some herds of elk

[warm vortex]

Some examples of antler variety EW can give to the Columbian Blacktail + the remodel giving them the same treatment as the mule deer got with Askiy

[safe vine]

What is possible to hunt there?

[warm vortex]

Red fox, Roosevelt Elk, Black Bear, Columbian Blacktail Deer, Band Tailed Pigeon, American Wigeon, American Badger, Striped Skunk

[safe vine]

As a small-medium game hunter, skunks and badgers excite me, but i hunt those others too so that sounds cool

[warm vortex]

On the topic of remasters more color variation to certain animals especially the black bear could be great to have

Black bear: piebald, kermode, blonde?(not sure what the last one is)
Rme and Roosevelt: more piebald variations and leusistic
Columbian Blacktail: more piebald variation

[warm vortex]

Forgot to attach this

[safe vine]

Rip pigeon hunting

[opal widget]

this is cute

[warm vortex]

What is?

[undone shadow]

this post

[warm vortex]

In what way

[opal widget]

this reserve 😛

[warm vortex]

With rio grande turkey added to the roster here's some biomes they could do well in

Showing a bit more into the chaparral biome seen in the valle de la luna region
Also being able to be found in agricultural fields

[safe vine]

To make this map more uniqe from Rancho, can we skip Turkeys and have something else? It makes for a greater experience

[quartz pagoda]

I love turkeys tho💔

[warm vortex]

I'll love some suggestions, personally rios add another upland bird thats unique enough from the others already present on the map

[safe vine]

If we could get great one turkeys i’d love that

[flat scarab]

I think that a better choice that Rio Grande Turkey would be Mountain Quail. They’re really only found on the pacific coast and parts of Idaho, whereas the Rio Grande Turkey can be found throughout most of the West and can be hunted in most states west of the Mississippi.

[warm vortex]

I already have the California quail and the chukar adding another smaller bird wouldn't work imo, mountain quail regardless look similar to California quail

[safe vine]

How about vultures?

[warm vortex]

Personally id hate the idea of birds of prey in cotw
#1303283007381307412

[safe vine]

Ok gotcha, i been playing to much red dead

Maybe ravens or crows then? People do hunt crows irl idk about ravens though

Or hear me out, roadrunners. They’d be like pheasants but super fast and do short bursts of flight when you are really close

[warm vortex]

Maybe not a bad idea ill consider those

[quartz pagoda]

Birds of prey in cotw seems a bit over the top yeah

[safe vine]

Thanks

[warm vortex]

Hence why I never added any and most birds of prey here are protected under law same with seals and most marine mammals

[latent dust]

I would be fine with crows, but if they add them, they should be able to land in trees and other stuff like that

[warm vortex]

Kinda the same reason I removed the band tailed pigeon and mourning dove an entire new mechanic idk if ew would bother to add

[safe vine]

I think tree update is inevtiable, it opens up so many opportunities, from new ways to hunt, new dogs to hunt with, new as mentioned tree dwelling animals such as squirrels, pigeons, crows and so on. Animals should be able to get treed and so on

[warm vortex]

True it could come one day but who knows what will truly come first or if EW will even do it at the end of the day the species list i created is a rough idea what could be on a California map i tried my best to appeal to different gameplay styles with the roster and what I personally feel ew should do with a California map

[warm vortex]

More looks at the marshland biomes rich with waterfowl mainly would be seen in the willowfen basin region of this hypothetical map

[warm vortex]

Actually what I could do is maybe substitute those two missing slots for some bigger game on this reserve

Stuff possibly like
Pumas
Feral hog/pig
Desert bighorn sheep
Or pronghorn

What do you guys think

[safe vine]

Pumas would be cool, bighorns too

[glad echo]

Despite how awful feral hog are here we only have only one US map with em so it would be nice to get another

[warm vortex]

Having them on more US maps could be great awareness for the rampant problem they are

[glad echo]

Get this man a true

[warm vortex]

Now that ive added mountain lions and feral pigs id like to touch on feral pigs first off

Feral pigs or Wild hogs have been rampant in several US states including California having more of them on US maps other than Mississippi acres would be great to show how widespread and how much of an issue they are

Also with a wild boar remodel i feel like feral pigs could use one too and get a small touch up with the fur or possibly more fur variations as rares or commons to add variety

[glad echo]

Feral pig too fat and a bit short in game. And there’s a few furs it needs

[warm vortex]

Hence some examples I posted of different flavors of pig

But yeah they need be slightly taller and skinnier surprising for a pig

[glad echo]

I say the same thing looking in a mirror so it’s all good

[warm vortex]

😭dawg.

[cerulean elm]

If I grow one inch taller or skinnier...

[warm vortex]

Even though mallards won't be on this map(hopefully) with the addition of muscovies you can have muscovy duck and mallard hybrids giving the mallard a possible new rare

[dusk oriole]

I guess Mute Swans could be added since California recently declared them as something that can be hunted year round

[warm vortex]

I had them on the roster but decided to substitute them for Ross' Goose

I could substitute lesser scaup for them since ive been meaning to get rid of them to add more variety of birds

[safe vine]

Ross’s goose would be cool but lesser scaup is better for variety for sure

[warm vortex]

In the valle de la luna region a important POI could be a ghost town or two they are something of a tourist location in some parts and could make for something interesting to add for the player to explore

[wild isle]

Heard that map has fields ?

[warm vortex]

@wild isle up here

[wild isle]

Yo that ping didnt pinged me. Thats weird

[warm vortex]

I accidentally pinged some1 else lol

[warm vortex]

The California quail is unsurprisingly the state bird of California having it's iconic bulb on its head being more prominent on the males, they aren't just in California though they have been introduced to many places around the world such as New Zealand, but regardless I hope EW gives them their own unique calls and they make their debut on a California map
Examples of California quail calls 👇
https://youtube.com/shorts/GN9KR9i04Ik?si=zGj85eaW-DAjCeyo
https://youtube.com/shorts/H_xDa2H2qks?si=tL1V23q9YdXNwcwa
https://youtube.com/shorts/jEMqgi3j7Js?si=1kTeQE5urFZAE8cQ

[cerulean elm]

You got embeds and decided you'd wanna use them lol

[warm vortex]

Yes I did gotta update the thread occasionally

Also suprised to see you here thought you hated the idea of this

[cerulean elm]

Been reading everything, I do not hate the idea of a California reserve. Ik you don't but i just really want some jungle, africa or hawaii

[warm vortex]

Fair personally I want either some type of Africa map with antelopes or somewhere in Asia like Mongolia or Japan

But im still pushing for if EW makes more US maps they make a cali map(hopefully later on the continent needs a break)

[cerulean elm]

I'd love something in Asia as well, just think hunting argali and maral in the vast mountains

[warm vortex]

Another California fun fact
The now extinct since 1922 subspecies of brown bear in California the California brown bear or Grizzly bear (Ursus arctos Californicus) is our state animal and is the bear shown on our flag, the only bear in California now is the American Black Bear
Some type of statue,POI talking about it , or warden mention in a mission to this now extinct animal would be great to have to show off the history of the state

[warm vortex]

With the addition of the soon to be European badger I hope EW comes back to a US map like this and adds the american badger

[ornate agate]

Them and Virginia opossum would be great

[warm vortex]

Species List Re do with small changes (20 Species)
California quail - Class 1
American Wigeon - Class 1
Muscovy Duck - Class 1
Hooded merganser - Class 1
Redhead duck - Class 1
Mute swan - Class 1
California Ground squirrel- Class 1
Striped Skunk - Class 1
American Badger - Class 2
Red fox - Class 2
Coyote - Class 3
Feral Pig - Class 5
Mule deer - Class 5
Columbian Blacktail Deer - Class 5
Puma - Class 6
Tule Elk - Class 7
Roosevelt Elk - Class 7
Rocky Mountain Elk - Class 7
Black bear - Class 7

I have decided to remove a couple species and add some that I personally believe would add more variety to the hunting experience, I still want to mainly focus on small game species on this reserve but also continue to have the big hitters such as the 3 Elk and blacktail the regions will be re done and re written

[warm vortex]

The tule elk is an endemic subspecies of elk to California and with a interesting but great history in terms of conservation. Tule elk were almost brought to extinction but if it wasn't for the conservation efforts of a rancher in the 1870s and many other efforts for conservation they would've gone extinct. Tule elk are important species to the state, if EW makes this map i hope they give the tule elk justice and respect it deserves

[frigid epoch]

Mountain Lion could also work, they definitely could also use a Rework

[warm vortex]

They could but I personally didn't see them fitting enough. Id rather see them backfilled to other maps

[warm vortex]

Feral Pig/Wild Hog Remodel + new furs and behaviors
○ legs made longer and taller
○ being skinnier and less chunky
○ Ears made more droopy on some variations to show more variety in certain breeds
○ snout being lifted up slightly
○ more shaggy, ruffed up fur on certain variations
○ Possible tru size between individuals? (Huge maybe)
New variations:
Orange - Uncommon
White orange - Rare
Hybrid (Feral Pig and wild boar) - Common
Dark Gray - Common
New Behaviors
○ When fleeing tails are lifted up
○ aggression buff
○ fleeing speed increase

[cerulean elm]

If we get California I want to see a valley with massive redwoods or Douglas firs

Big lonely doug is my favorite. Some logged areas could be good for hunting

[warm vortex]

That was a region i included in the reserve if you scroll up and see but same its a unique environment we've yet to see in cotw

[cerulean elm]

That was a long way but I've seen it now.

[wide rose]

https://tenor.com/view/feral-hog-viral-hog-pig-call-calling-gif-13492869264629174909

[warm vortex]

With 2026 now here mute swans are now huntable year round in California, a huge win for the state and the removing of this invasive species and something I'd love to see shown in a hypothetical California Reserve for Cotw especially since we got the American Mink with Torr Nan Sithean
https://share.google/k8Tj14kN5jVIEFXeC

[warm vortex]

(Forgot to attach these)

[warm vortex]

With the branch mounts some species on this map could benefit from them
All waterfowl on the list
Striped Skunk
California quail
American Badger

[limpid moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/697749048177852416/1460143446189801503/image0.gif

[quartz pagoda]

That duck got a big ass forehead

Almost as big as mine

[warm vortex]

Multi trophy mounts that could come with this reserve(Changed to add images and add species i replaced on the roster):

Monarchs of North America(XL)
1 male Tule, Roosevelt, Rocky Mountain and Manitoban Elk
Drakes of Distinction(S)
1 male hooded merganser, redhead duck, american wigeon, harlequin duck, wood duck, gadwall, green winged teal, Northern pintail, Cinnamon Teal
Feral farmyard (L)
1 male muscovy duck, feral goat and Feral pig/Wild hog,
Timber and Dust (XL)
1 male mule deer, 1 male Columbian Blacktail
Escape plan(XL)
1 male coyote and female coyote 1 male black bear
Barely Tolerated(M)
1 male coyote and American Badger

Mute Swan (Cygnus Olor)
Class: 1
Levels/difficulty: 1-5
Behavior and Region
Behavior: Aggressive, territorial, and monogamous often found in a pair
Regions: Valle de La Luna, WillowFen Basin
Plumage types
Common: White, Royal
Rare: Hybrid(Black swan and Mute swan), Hybrid(Mute Swan and Canada goose), Hybrid(Mute Swan x Greylag Goose)

**Redhead Duck (Aythya
Americana)
Class: 1
Levels/difficulty: 1-3
Behavior and Region
Behavior: a highly social and vocal diving duck, more often seen in water than on land
Regions: WillowFen Basin
Plumage types:
Common: Red, Brown
Rare: Leusistic
Very rare: Hybrid(Ring-Necked duck and redhead), Hybrid(Redhead and Lesser Scaup)
Recommended Gear:
Redhead duck decoy

[quartz pagoda]

I gotta say, whoever names ducks is not very creative

[dusk oriole]

Maybe not creative but the names of birds can be descriptive

[quartz pagoda]

But the names can be confusing, there are at least 4 ducks i can think of that have red heads

@warm vortex you started this thread 11 months ago 🥹

[warm vortex]

And im glad its come this far

[quartz pagoda]

I have the best map idea ever

A map with only black grouse to actually give me a chance at a super rare

[warm vortex]

Lmao

But genuinely even though its kinda of a small thread still im glad its grown somewhat and hope for the future people warm up to more NA maps and give this one a chance

[cerulean elm]

I think that is worth a lot more honestly like please stop naming seabirds like "Cory's shearwater" call them something like yellow billed shearwater instead, descriptive and you realize in your head what name is to what bird

[quartz pagoda]

But don’t a lot of shearwaters have a yellow bill to 😭 i know at least 2

Dang those are the only two, i’ve seen cory’s shearwater on a dolpin trip in the canary islands

[gilded elk]

This is partially why Latin/Scientific names were created

[quartz pagoda]

I ain’t gonna memorize all that 😭

[cerulean elm]

I've seen the same bird on a whale trop in the Canary's as well. I guess there is but this was mostly an example, but if you want the name to be diagnostic you could make Cory's and scopolis shearwater darker yellow-billed shearwater and lighter yellow-billed shearwater respectively

[gilded elk]

Not saying you gotta just saying there’s a reason common names aren’t always used lol

[cerulean elm]

I think we can keep specific names if they serve a purpose to distinguish the species like with the Fiji petrel or the Florida scrub jay but it shouldn't be used for species that have super wide ranges like the laysan Albatros for example, if the north Pacific albatross species all had descriptive names it would be even easier to know em

[gilded elk]

Just for fun, starting from the top left going clockwise is: the red-crested pochard (Netta rufina), the common pochard (Aythya ferina), the canvasback (Aythya valisineria), and the redhead/redhead duck (Aythya americana) for those who’re curious.

[warm vortex]

It's been a journey and possibly the end of era appreciate the support for this thread even though it was somewhat small🫡 gonna be moving this thread to the new thingy