New Dog and driven hunts

[night belfry]

Can we please bring a new dog breed into the game. The English Cocker Spaniel is a dog known for its nose work. They would do well in conjunction with driven hunts as they can find and drive animals. Sry for my bad English.

[wide elk]

Hey @night belfry ! We are constantly monitoring player feedback, and we're grateful for your ideas. If there's anything else on your mind, we'd love to hear from you at: https://support.thehunter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new.

[bold patrol]

Cocker's and Springer Spaniels would also make good bird dog breeds ....

[night belfry]

@bold patrol thats what i forgot. good point

[clever tinsel]

this would be great cotw

[dim notch]

I think this would make a great addition plus if people work together it will make the game more fun

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1333888367628386304

[vast mauve]

@night belfry The breed you mentioned is not used for driven hunts. It is specialized in flushing and retrieving birds, mainly quail, partridges, and woodcocks, from dense cover.

[dim notch]

Who you talking to

[vast mauve]

Here are some photos of famous dog breeds used for driven hunts.

[dim notch]

Yeah but I think there thought was small chase game lower chance to hit said dog or maybe they use a cocker’s spaniel for there driving dog but the walker and other breeds are great choices but personally I’d rather have a Rhodesian ridge back there a tougher and loyal breed but are expensive to own but where bred for baying African lions and have been great for dangerous game like lions,bears,boar etc but there is nothing wrong with a good ol walker

[bold patrol]

Here's a suggested game mechanic for Chase Dogs https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1070641304255598602

This examples uses beagles for chasing rabbits but it could easily be modified for other breeds and other animals ....

[night belfry]

tf u talkin about, ofcourse u use ecs, quails(named like the bird), parson russel terrier are all used for driven hunts(especially in Germany) . ecs is a verifed stumbling dog used for driven hunts. Just look, it's everywhere on the internet. are u hunting in the us? maybe my vocabular isnt that good, js let me know

[night belfry]

The English Cocker Spaniel primarily hunted woodcock, but they did so in the Middle Ages. Today, these dogs are used for driven hunts. but the ecs is also used for retrieving birds, I DONT KNOW IF MY TRANSLATOR IS GOOD,SO DRIVEN HUNTS MEAN U GO IN THE THICKET WITH UR DOGS AND HUNT ESPECIALLY BOARS AND AROUND THE THICKET ARE OTHER HUNTERS WHICH ARE ON A PULPIT AND WAIT FOR BOARS,DEERS AND SO ON TO COME OUT

[night belfry]

here in germany, nobody uses ridgebacks for any sorts of hunting, it doesnt make any sense. they were bred to hunt in the steppe

it would be great if we get the ridgeback for the map in africa to hunt lions

[dim notch]

There from Africa and people in America and Africa still use the ridge back and if you looked it my post it’s literally for dangerous game like bears lions and tigers

[night belfry]

and if u looked in my last comment u see that i said sth like that

[royal spoke]

We have limited dangerous game, Spaniels and Setters can be Used but are limited to small Game mostly and Boars are a coordinated effort of multiple hunters and about a dozen dogs. I could see them as mainly a small game dog that has the ability to flush Birds or Hare in Sequence without spooking the other nearby wildlife in conjuction with the Air Rifle. Zone Discovery by the those Dogs could be another ability for them on the birds. The Pointer has greater Range compared to the Spaniels and has it's own Class in that. Weimaraner would be a Mix of the Three Types we have right now but Not advantagous in any Category. Dachshund is another Universal dog that has a multitude of Rules and some of them have been restricted in certain Areas. What you would have as an Intermediate would be the Curs which are a Mix of Guardian and Driven Herders that can be Used to mild dangerous game. So it would make sense to Split the Guardian Class due to the difference in protection capabilities and Different Range of Aggression - some of the small game dogs are tame and for example the Ferreting on the Dens is supervised and restricted depending on Area, in the Reserves I could see it used as a spook out circle Type but some dogs are less lenient and are trained to Break the Small Game instead of only forcing them out. Some Hunts in City Parks for example are using them to catch them alive in catch fences for resettlement. Terriers are notoriously to attack the wildlife to pindown or sometimes more so it's a bit of a Gamble. Feists would be another Type that is specific to squirrels like some of other suggestions as foxhounds, coonhounds etc. We could use another scent dog aswell we have the bloodhound for scenting after the fact, we could have one for pre Discovery in the Form of the Sighthound that could be good at discovering and finding animals in foiliage need Zones for example.
The there's the Guardian like the Laikas but that also can bay large animals

[royal spoke]

We now have a Sweatdog in the Bloodhound, Apportdog in the Retriever and a Prefacedog in the Pointer. I'd think a Discoverydog would be more Universal than the ones for Earthdogs which involves rabbits/hare/fox which sometimes have a den and sometimes Not so it's a Mix of driven or chase hunting.
Bracken would fill that Role for the Mid sized Game with giving audible calls of varying degree but you would also have Chasedogs like windhounds in Arabia that is more reserved to royalty and together with falconry there and would Not work on European or Asian Maps since that has been banned for majority of game. Big Game Hunting dogs could make sense regionally as mentioned rhodesian and laikas are mostly specific to that Environment or would be underutilized on some Maps that are Not dangerous. Bracken are restricted from medieval times so they are Not commonly used for larger game like on Hirschfelden since we depopulated wolves and bears are so limited that they are too shy and only Into remote areas instead of treeing and taking them out. I think Austria and Switzerland in that matter which favours to scare them Into the woods if they come too close to humans, injured or ill fated. Romania closed down the permit for them so Croatia is the remaining ground other then Scandinavia and Russia and the other continents.

[torn meteor]

So, how would driven hunts work in single player? Would we have NPC beaters and dogs? Or are you asking for a European map with precise shooting lanes and stand locations (and obviously ideal driving dog breeds) to be utilized in multiplayer?

It's a bit different in that you really need either other players or built in NPCs to make it work, whereas a player would be able to chase and corner/tree deer, bears, or swine solo if they had access to a bear/deer/coon/boar dog DLC.

I'm very curious as this would be a fun method of hunting.

[dim notch]

Nope just a dog that will run the game past or hold the prey at a single point the “drivers” will be other players so that way it’s a group activity but can be done by A person with a dog

[dim notch]

But a map with added shooting lanes would be nice to have

[torn meteor]

Gotcha. Makes sense.

Yes, clear shooting lanes with stands in optimal position would absolutely be a must, especially on any new European maps.

I'm really excited about the bait stations, but I'm still praying for a hound DLC that will feature several different hound varieties (for hunting deer, bear, hogs, cats, coons, and rabbits) with the added ability to run two or more at a time.

[dim notch]

Agree I use bait in my state but many during gun season as it’s only 5 days long but yeah using dogs is fun we can’t use them in my state but it’s a blast in game

[torn meteor]

I'm training (in-game) a GSP specifically for stalking and blood trailing big game, but I want dogs that you can actually set loose on a track or prime area and will actually find and chase game.

But I've been watching a lot of European driven hunts on YouTube and it's definitely something I'd love to see come to the game!

[dim notch]

Same and I love the pointer but would love a dog that would not be scared of throwing down with a bear or a tiger and hold them in place and with a he’ll placed 470 round eng the chase but also chase boar past the player and give you a good shot but let’s be honest we need more double rifles for your average sized game

[torn meteor]

And maybe a better red dot for close shots on the run. That might be another good DLC. The one for the .470 and the handgun one are both solid, but we need a similar style one for the rest of the long guns. Unless you can already use it for those and I just have been clueless. 😂 The current bulkier red dot the rest of the guns can use is okay, but I feel it could be better.