#Dachshund Dlc

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fluid summit
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Dachshounds are an versatile hunting dog but the main use in the game would be to flush animals out of burrows (more to that here https://discordapp.com/channels/393040947006406657/1281956469037858816 ), setting up an entire new way to hunt.

***Use ***
The Dog would work like this : When you are near a burrow you can command the dog to enter it and push the animals out, but it takes some time(5-10 ingame minutes?).The Animal then will run out of a random Burrow.
However there are some chances that :

  • the animal (like a fox)will fight off the dog so it doesent push any animal out of the burrow
  • The dog pushes out the animals, but the dog gets stuck in the burrow, so you have to dig it out

***Traits exclusive to the Dog ***

  • Fast Drifting The Dog presses faster trough the burrow pushing the animals faster out.
  • *Fearless *The Chance that the dog gets fight of by the animal in the burrow decreses.
  • Clever Dog The Dog has a higher chance to push the animal out of the burrow which is next to you.
  • *Preperation * The Dog now marks the burrow where the animal gets pushed out.
  • Path Memory The Dog has a lowered chance to get stuck in the burrow
  • *Keen Identification *The Dogs marks the animal with the highest trophy score that get pushed out of the burrow.

Fur Variations

  • Blonde
  • Liver-Grey
  • Black
  • Brown
  • Grey
  • Brown-Grey

Expert Dog Exceptions
This Dog Skill will be exclusive to the Dachshound, because the other dogs are to big to enter the Burrow, but it can still make use of a second trait like every other dog when reached max level.

New Equipment

  • Digging Shovel : this is necessary to dig out your dog when it got stuck in the burrow. It would be priceless and would have a packing weight of 1 kg.
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Blonde

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Liver-Grey

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Brown-Grey

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molten escarp
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fluid summit
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@neon swallow @rustic lion what do have against this idea?

rustic lion
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I just don't see how it would work with the game as is, or with the values the devs enforce

fluid summit
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fair

abstract crag
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i think its a little useful yeah but idk if its useful enough

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rare panther
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torn compass
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👍

dire pollen
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@fluid summit you could possibly call the nameless trait Strength Recognition or Keen Identification or something that highlights the ability to find the strongest animal.

fluid summit
fluid summit
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2 more to 50

fluid summit
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50 dogWithIt

opaque tinsel
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beard dog :D

radiant adder
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The dog Lola tracked it for at least 3 kilometers (3,281 yardas approximately yards) and spent 1 hour under failed shooting attempts and pursuit. Photo Video Credit: Pedro Ampuero.

fluid summit
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bump for this small fella

fluid summit
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lets get to 100

harsh matrix
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Hey @fluid summit ! Thank you for this creative and detailed suggestion! The idea of using a Dachshund for burrow hunting, complete with unique traits, risks, and even a digging shovel, is both fun and thoughtful. We really appreciate the time and effort you put into this concept - ideas like yours help inspire future content and features. We'd love to hear more of your thoughts - you can send them directly through: https://support.thehunter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new.

fluid summit
rare panther
# fluid summit Bump

Distinguished looking fellow, clearly seen burrows you wouldn’t believe.. 🫡

neat leaf
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I think the Patterdale would be a great addition to the game too because i believe one you shoot and animal like class 1-2 if you don’t hit the animal it could run up and grab the animal finishing it off or holding it till you get there to finish the hunt but the animals health has to be 50-25% and below

fluid summit
random lion
# fluid summit Seems quiete brutal to me i doubt EW would add them. Besides that i think these ...

meh I wouldn't go so far as to call it unethical, people let their domesticated animals kill wildlife all the time (domesticated cats killing rodents for example). Most people would agree that it's okay to do that if it's to stop the spread of an overpopulated or over-abundant species, or to protect livestock (like in the case of large livestock guardian dog breeds).

It's more just unsporting to use those types of dogs for hunting, because you could argue that it isn't fair chase. You'd also be letting the dog do the killing for you, making the dog the actual hunter in that scenario. The humans involved can't really take credit for the kill since their canine companions were the ones who ultimately dispatched the animal.

Realistically speaking, I can't see EW adding that type of hunting to the game, especially considering that the potential time invested into making it a thing probably isn't worth it.

fluid summit
random lion
random lion
# neat leaf I think the Patterdale would be a great addition to the game too because i belie...

Getting back to this original idea though, I think something like this is unlikely to be added to the game on purely technical grounds. I think the amount of animation work necessary to depict a dog struggling with/trying to hold down an animal or outright kill it is probably way too much work to expect for a new dog breed in this game. These are complex interactions that require a lot of work to make them look good, especially when considering how the animal models interact with each other and how complex the animals' rigs would need to be for something like that.

Theoretically they could make it easier by just making those animations into a pre-made cinematic cutscene that shows the dog attacking and killing the animal, but that also interrupts the flow of gameplay and would probably just get annoying and repetitive after a while. As far as I can tell, there's just no good way to implement this type of feature without adding a lot of extra functionality that probably isn't possible in this game at this point.

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glad garden
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New dog

fluid summit
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Close to 80 🙏

neat leaf
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If nutria get added or any other burrowing animals like badgers this dog would be an excellent addition to the update

fluid summit
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80

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85

signal meadow
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I can’t imagine this dog being added, because it would essentially be useless. This would mean adding burrows an entirely new system which takes more work than we realize, only to add a dog for it. Not many animals in-game would be in burrows if the burrow update happens and i just don’t think it will be worth it for the devs to put in so much work for little gain. It’s a cool idea sure, but the dogs we have already gotten have a purpose you can use anywhere on any map, yes i know the retriever only can retrieve, but there are a lot of small game that you frequently come across which makes the dog more useful than you’d think. The pointer can track any animal and the bloodhound can bloodtrack any shot animal, so those have a bigger use. For this dog (while it would be cool to have) from my standpoint i don’t think it will be happening considering the broad use of the dogs we have already. But i can always be wrong

fluid summit
# signal meadow I can’t imagine this dog being added, because it would essentially be useless. T...

First of All, thanks that you gave a Statement why you downvoted the idea, i appreciate that. I agree that the dog even with the burrow update the dog would only be useful if youre dedicated to hunt burrow animals (that if the update gets applied would be 5 animals ) . But the burrow Update would open the door for New burrow animals to be added in future maps (like marmots, parie dogs ,etc) where the dog could also be used on.

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uneven sluice
# signal meadow Yes it could potentially be big but as i said the effort and the work put in i d...

I cant entirely vouch for the breed however I can see EW putting in the time to add the burrow update or an equivalent for various future species as well as existing as it does have purpose as well as additional hunting mechanics. EW adding Warrens for Rabbits to me was pretty big even if the community doesn't bc their rabbits. However, if EW was to expand on it lets say to more anticipated species like Badgers & Wolverines for example it would get more traction. Now my game list for Frontier Park does include numerous species that would benefit from the Burrow Update that mind you could even be extended more to introducing Predator Dens as well. Now in relation to @fluid summit dog suggestion in general wouldn't be pointless when paired with the existing dog mechanic traits with the Master Dog being added after receiving the Pointer. Aside from that EW will most likely apply this burrow trait along with an additional function to a different breed or this 1 to further justify its use. Though if it were me a Beagle or Coon hound would make more sense but Dachshunds do have a reputation so its possible. But even if I'm not fond of the breed the concept & mechanic traits is a feature worth considering.

uneven sluice
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If the team doesn't bother to expand on additional hunting/game mechanics, the title will remain stagnant if all they do is copy & paste existing to new species. & to be fair EW has made it quite clear they have no intention of slowing down development let alone a 3rd franchise title. With that in mind despite 8yrs running they will have to add new features to keep the community's interest. I'll also note that Upland Birds & Small Game (C:1-3) are due for TLC & a spotlight since Waterfowl & C:5+ game have been receiving highlights.

uneven sluice
# signal meadow What tlc would they get?

As for US Upland Birds we need quite a few more esp. Grouse for starters. Small Game is mixed between Varmints & Furbearers which would further benefit from the Burrow Update. This further extends to my Predator update. Since EW has yet to add decoys this would include a passive way to locate predators which means every predator is assigned to prey. In short you find their prey you will likely find their predator near by. Also related to rabbit warrens when you investigate it tells you how fresh the sign is. In the case for the burrow update its rng on what could be in or using it. For example it has a badger and without a dog to flush it you could get attacked. If its a skunk you could get sprayed with a scent cover debuff for a set time. Etc. Prairie dogs, meerkats and other related varmints would most likely share the same mechanic as the rabbits with their warrens. Also Coyotes need reworked, resized, & reclassed. Gray fox need resized as well bc they are smaller than Red Fox, & Red Fox are Smaller than Coyotes. Now if EW adds Swift Fox I expect them to also go after prairie dog burrows &/or rabbit warrens depending on the reserve there in. Also in relation to Gray Fox they shouod technically be C:1 predators given how small they are. If EW classes them as C:2 I'd expect C:1-3 be reevaluated & redone where C:1 is Birds Only, C:2 is Varmints & Small Game, & C:3 is Medium Small Game.

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Something that annoys me with Ducks & Geese they all act the same way with no real difference other than their calls. I would've expected EW to put more effort into different flight patterns & speed. Additionally pheasant still dont flush but will run off unless a dog flushes them or you shoot the air to get them to fly. This includes quail but they spook and fly off way before you can get close enough even with the pointer. To add to it lynx supposedly spook everything from what the community has said which doesn't make sense but its an issue esp. if they spook Brown bears. So yes C:1-3 game need TLC.

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In short: More newly added species, Reworks, Behaviors + Mechanics, & ofc Fixes.

uneven sluice
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Unlike most players I pursue C:1-3 game often in CotW as well as IRL but bird wise I dont hunt waterfowl except in the game from time to time. I prefer Upland Birds over Ducks & Geese so I was excited for the pointer to be added and was shocked to see it has Game Tracking. So I can see the OP's dog mechanic being applied with an additional trait other than its common use just as the other 3 dogs do. The Master Dog trait just made it better to suite ppl's playstyle. In my case I would use this trait combo with the pointer or lab traits since it leans towards small game.

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Again from my personal IRL experience we used Beagles & Coonhounds for burrowing game but I have read that Dachshunds are used in the EU aside from Beagles and related breeds. So I wont knock the idea knowing the potential role the dog mechanic can have in gameplay.

signal meadow
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Well there’s a lot to be improved, try to be grateful of what we have because the game is amazing

fluid summit
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1 more ....

signal meadow
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fluid summit
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what do guys think about the ability of this dog to search for burrows when you not near one?

signal meadow
fluid summit
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seems like dachshound already is ingame

well kinda 😅

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tropic rapids
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you could use then for rabits too

fluid summit
tropic rapids
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yea i know thats why i said it

fluid summit
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Dachshund Dlc

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alpine cave
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1000000% agree, we need dackel! But, as much as I love me a wirehaired, I think I'd like to see them smooth coated in for the DLC

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