How to Improve Layton Lake District

[dense grotto]

While Layton Lake District is the better one of the two original maps, it's certainly showing its age now. I think it could definitely use some changes to bring it up to the quality of the newer maps. This is my concept for how to make Layton Lake as great of a map as possible.

1. Basic graphical improvements. Remove the low-poly fake birds, improve the overall graphical quality of the map (including the weather effects like fog, and getting rid of the overall grainy-ness of the map) and maybe improve the quality of some vegetation on the map. Layton is a beautiful map, but it could look even better with just a few quality-of-life improvements.

2. Rework existing animals. The Blacktail Deer, Roosevelt Elk, and Jackrabbit all need a complete remodel, while the Whitetail Deer need better antlers and some tweaks to their models, and the Coyote needs some updates to its existing model and textures. Other people have made their own posts about these topics, so I'll share links to them in the thread below this post.

3. Redistribution of animals. Currently the animal distribution on the map doesn't make sense. I think the better way to break up the homeranges would be by having certain species within specific habitats on the map. Whitetail Deer, Moose, and Jackrabbits should be found in the lowland areas that are primarily marshes and aspen forests. The Blacktail Deer and Roosevelt Elk should be found at the higher elevations that are mainly coniferous forests. The other species would be found in a mix of both of these habitats.

4. Backfilling. Here are some existing species in the game that would fit well in Layton:
   Mountain Goat
   Bighorn Sheep
   Northern Pintail
   Green-Winged Teal
   Snow Goose
   Canada Goose
   Gadwall
   Wood Duck
   Red Fox
   Raccoon
   Bobcat (low population)
   Mountain Lion (low population)
   North American Beaver

5. New species. Here are some that would be a good fit for Layton:
   Sooty Grouse
   Ruffed Grouse
   White-Tailed Ptarmigan
   Hoary Marmot
   Snowshoe Hare
   American Badger

Here are some other posts about how to rework some of the existing species on Layton, ones that I mentioned in my original post:
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1111718419339952179
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1072968447975227502
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1294684372917551215
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1184845232072818688
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1314730648338169947
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1317616448939491419

[dense grotto]

As for where the potential new species would be found if they were added to the map:

Mountain Goats would be found on the highest mountains in the reserve (like Mount Leviathan, Mount Kraken, the Roonachee Highlands, etc). Bighorn Sheep would be found in the mountainous areas specifically in the eastern regions of the map. The backfilled waterfowl species would be found around the largest lakes and marshy areas. Raccoons would be specifically found in the lowland forests and marshes, while Red Foxes would be found throughout the map. Bobcats would be found at the lower elevations, while Mountain Lions would be in the high elevations (both would have a very small population on the map).

Ruffed Grouse would be in the areas with the aspen forests, while Sooty Grouse would be found in the dense coniferous forests. The Ptarmigan and Hoary Marmot would both be in the high mountain areas alongside the Mountain Goats. Snowshoe Hares would inhabit the forests that are higher up, while the White-Tailed Jackrabbits would remain in the lower areas alongside the Moose and Whitetail Deer. Beavers could be found living in small colonies along the rivers, while the American Badger would have burrows in the open areas throughout Layton.

[sage blaze]

Whitetail need a complete remodel too but moose antlers are fine

[dense grotto]

The moose antlers could use some updated textures on their antlers in my opinion, but other than that they're not too bad

[spark sinew]

I’d love to have some extra species of duck on the map, like pintail, gadwall, or shoveler

[dense grotto]

I mentioned the Gadwall and Green-Winged Teal in my original post for backfilling options. I think that both of them would be great additions to Layton. Pintail or Shoveler would be great, but they'd also be new species.

[dense estuary]

Am I the only one that’s always preferred Hirschfelden? Also I think bobcats and mountain goats would be great

[dense grotto]

Maybe not the only one, but I think the majority of players prefer Layton

[vital patio]

I've been a fan of both myself, especially if I am hunting on either map with my friends

[dense grotto]

yeah both are great maps, but Hirschfelden is definitely more for slow-paced hunting, while Layton is better if you want to use a run-and gun strategy.

[dense estuary]

For sure

[elfin quail]

Gray Wolf could also work as a new Backfill species! Wolves are found in the Pacific Northwest and hey maybe we give them a low population status too like the Mountain lions. Let’s say 3-5 packs on the whole map

[dense grotto]

I wouldn't support adding them, not with the way that their behavior is currently. Having packs of aggressive wolves roaming around a beginner's map is a recipe for disaster.

If EW were to change their AI in order to make them more realistic in terms of their aggression, I would be able to support adding them to Layton Lake. Wolves very rarely attack people irl, they really only attack people in extreme circumstances when they're cornered, desperate or unhealthy (wolves that are infected with rabies, for example)

[dense grotto]

One more potential new species on Layton would be the Wood Duck. I didn't mention them in my original post, but they would fit in well on this map as well as Mississippi Acres and New England Mountains.

[waxen tundra]

brown bear are also seen in Washington (PNW)

[dense grotto]

Yes, however they are extremely rare (if I remember correctly there's less than a dozen of them in Washington) so I don't think they'd be a good addition to Layton Lake.

plus I think Layton is fine with just the Black Bears on it. They are far more common in the region.

[dense grotto]

Potential Canada Goose range on Layton

Potential Gadwall Range map

Potential Green Winged Teal range map

Potential Raccoon range map on Layton

Potential Bighorn Sheep range

Potential Mountain Goat range map on Layton Lake (rough approximation)

I'm gonna make some more potential range maps in the future, but these are all of the maps I've completed so far that I'm satisfied with

[dense grotto]

I haven't forgotten about the other new species range maps, I just haven't had much time to work on them

[dense grotto]

Potential new range map for Blacktail Deer and Roosevelt Elk, which is also the potential range map for the Sooty Grouse and Snowshoe Hare

Potential new range map for Whitetail Deer, Moose, and Jackrabbit, as well as the new Ruffed Grouse

because of how varied Layton's landscape is, there is a little bit of overlap between these two range maps. That's sort of done on purpose so that you can still have areas with a lot of variety of species.

[dense grotto]

will make some more potential range maps for the rest of the species at some point

for now though I think the ones I've made cover the basics pretty well

[potent nimbus]

Just wish there wasn't so many moose. I swear I see fifty of them between the first and second outpost

[icy cedar]

I’m 50th

[potent nimbus]

#1335393825056886875

I'm only posting this because it would add to Layton 's mission chain, if the OP asks I'll delete it

[dense grotto]

That's okay, you can keep it in here. It's not a bad idea to have that thread linked to this one, after all they cover similar topics

[potent nimbus]

Cool, don't want to annoy anyone tho so it's better to ask

[opal birch]

Kanye?

[dense grotto]

what?

[opal birch]

The goat pic is kanye's pfp on spotify

[dense grotto]

oh yeah you're right haha

I just included it here because iirc it's actually a picture of Mountain Goat in Washington State, so it sort of fits with the theme of this thread

[dense grotto]

I've been working on some new potential range maps for species on Layton, I'll get those posted here when they're finished.

[lost sparrow]

This is a great idea, i’ve made similar posts but deleted them hence: they sucked lol.
This perfectly portrays the potential this map has and proves that it could really become the best map in the game once again!

[dense grotto]

well, don't feel too bad. I've had to sort of archive some old threads that I made, and it was because they just weren't very well thought out. It happens when you're brainstorming ideas, sometimes some of them turn out great, and other times you ask yourself "well what was I thinking back when I wrote that?" It happens to the best of us sometimes.

but yeah I agree that Layton definitely has a lot of potential if EW is willing to make the necessary changes to it

[dense grotto]

Potential new Coyote range map - they'd be found across most of the lowlands and some of the higher mountain passes on the map.

Potential Red Fox range map on Layton - I think they'd mostly be in the north and east, but you could have a separate population of them in Roonachee's highlands as well.

I will be posting a few more of these range maps at some point

[dense grotto]

potential Mountain Lion range map - they'd mostly be in the far north and east of the map. Each of the three separate red areas you see here would only have 2-4 mountain lions living in them. Their overall population on the map would be about 10, giving them a similar population size to the Snow Leopards on Sundarpatan. Also they would be absent from the western regions of the map, making those areas just as easy to hunt other animals as they are now.

[lost sparrow]

Northern Pintails would also work great on this map in my opinion, it has great potential for waterfowl hunting, but I feel like we were let down. American black duck would also really work here.

[dense grotto]

I thought about including pintails in the new species list here. If they were included on a brand new map, then I think we could potentially convince EW to backfill them to some existing maps like Layton.

[dense grotto]

Something I forgot to mention is that along with having their home range changed, the Moose would need to have their population on Layton reduced as well. Moose population densities don't seem to be very high in the Pacific Northwest anyway, their largest North American populations are further north in Canada and Alaska. Their population on Layton should be about half of what it is now in terms of overall numbers.

the Whitetail Deer population could use a moderate reduction as well, since their numbers aren't very high in the Pacific Northwest either.

reducing the populations of both species would be good for the sake of realism, and would also make room for new and backfilled species like Ruffed Grouse, Beavers, Raccoons, etc.

[elfin quail]

I’m still gonna say McKenzie Valley Gray Wolf. Maybe the Wolves will get a Behavior change. That being said if Wolves did make it to Layton Hypothetically Speaking what would their potential Range Be?!

[dense grotto]

If wolves got added to Layton, my guess is that they'd be in the northern parts of the map, like the Chopeeka and Calburn regions. However I still really don't think Layton needs wolves, even if they get a behavior rework to no longer be as aggressive. Wolves still aren't super common in Washington or Oregon (I don't think you can even hunt them legally in either state), and they definitely don't have as many of them as you'd have in states like Idaho or Montana. I also think there's a lot of other animals that are more glaring omissions from Layton, like Mountain Goats, Beavers, etc.

[elfin quail]

Ehhh I’d still add them even with legal issues because….Snow Leopards, Iberian Wolves, European Bison, Mexican Bobcats and Bengal Tigers are in the game so Legal Issues aren’t Really that big of an Issue at this point

[dense grotto]

legal issues aside, they aren't nearly as common in those states as they are in places like Idaho, Montana, etc. and in my opinion they are not a much-needed species on Layton.

Also I highly doubt that EW will fix their AI to be more realistic because they purposefully made them that way from the beginning, so unless we can get a suggestion up to 500 upvotes that's something like "make the wolf AI more realistic", we're still going to be left with the problem of new players taking their first steps in Layton and getting ambushed by a pack of wolves. If we can convince EW to change the Wolf AI to be more realistic, maybe we can talk more about potentially backfilling them to Layton. Unless they tell us and show us that they're gonna change it, I don't really feel compelled to entertain the possibility all that much.

[vital patio]

It should be noted that at the time Cuatro Colinas was released the Iberian Wolf could still be legally hunted (Cuatro released in 2019 and the wolf hunting ban came in 2021), and lately there are talks of wolf hunting being reopened north of the Douro River (I have also seen it spelled as Duero), so I'm not sure why the Iberian Wolf keeps ending up in the same boat as tigers. Also Bobcats can still be hunted in Mexico despite being on the US Endangered Species List (And a delisting has been proposed)

[dense grotto]

I forgot to mention it in my original post, but another great choice for Layton would be the Snow Goose. Some of them do travel south to their winter range via the Pacific Flyway, which passes through parts of the Pacific Northwest. Might as well add them onto Layton to represent that.

[dense grotto]

Potential Bobcat range map for Layton Lake - they would have a low population of about 16 bobcats in the southwest and south-central parts of the map.

before we ever get Bobcats on another map though, we need a rework to their prey-spooking logic, so that they no longer spook animals that are above Class 4. It makes no sense for any animal bigger than a Whitetail Deer to get spooked by a Bobcat.

if there were less than 20 bobcats limited to a specific part of the map and they wouldn't spook bigger animals like Moose, Elk and Black Bear, then they wouldn't ruin very many hunts for other animals on this map.

[dense grotto]

Range map for the Hoary Marmot and White-Tailed Ptarmigan

[dense grotto]

Potential American Badger range map on Layton

[dense grotto]

Potential Wood Duck Range on Layton - they would be found along the rivers, marshy areas, shallow lakes and small ponds, in the central and western regions of the map

Potential Snow Goose range map - this would be their migration corridor that runs through the western side of the map

Potential North American beaver range map - they would be found all along the main rivers that run across the map from north to south, along with a few surrounding ponds. There could be both riverbank/lakeshore beaver lodges, along with some in isolated shallow sections of the rivers that could have beaver dams blocking them and stopping up the water.

[dense grotto]

Bump for Mountain Goats in Layton's mountains

[dense sleet]

This is actually genius, its not impossible like some ideas and is actually a good idea to change Layton. Support it 100%. I would love to see newer species like the american badger and North American Beaver! Beaver specifically because of the tents. (Therefore adding Beavers does make sense)

[sonic orchid]

Also, if anybody in here like knows anything about coding, would it be possible for them to make a new game but put all the content from this game into basically a new title but with a better engine? Like it would be the exact same game, but they could make it so it runs better so there could be more animals on each map, less lag, etc..

[opal birch]

Cod?

[lost sparrow]

Making a new game isn't a bad idea, but you can't make it the same for obvious reasons.

[dense grotto]

Bump for beavers in Layton

||(image credit: Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, photo by Laura Rogers)||

[lost sparrow]

I just played some RDR2 and I harvested the legendary buck. After shooting it I immediately thought of how cool it looks and how cool new piebald whitetail variants could look in COTW.

[dense grotto]

that would be pretty cool, and it would greatly improve every map that Whitetails can be found in

[past sphinx]

Chat it this kanyes spotify pfp

[dense grotto]

yes it is. I totally didn't mean to use the same one though, I just looked up photos of Mountain Goats and it was one of the first ones that showed up lol.

[reef tulip]

I did not know Kanye west had a mountain goat pfp lol.

[past sphinx]

XD that's aura

[past sphinx]

Lol exact same picture

[dense grotto]

yeah that was totally unintended but it's funny nonetheless

[past sphinx]

very lol

[reef tulip]

I didn't know he was a musician, got some fire songs!

[dense grotto]

yeah I didn't know mountain goats could make music lol

[reef tulip]

No like Kanye west, only knew him as Kim's bf and a Twitter troll lol

[dense grotto]

oh okay, I thought you were making a joke about the Mountain Goat

[reef tulip]

No no

[dense grotto]

alright I see what you meant now

[dense grotto]

Layton really is a very nice map, very cool scenery and I love the autumnal vibe. It really just needs some improvements to bring it up to the standards we've come to expect from the newer maps.

[reef tulip]

It feels very real, more real then some other maps, the animals really need some love, bighorn and/or mountain goat on the mountains and a cupple birds I think is enough.

[dense grotto]

A rework for both Roosevelt Elk and Blacktail Deer is very much needed in order to bring Layton up to modern standards in terms of its animal roster:
#1111718419339952179
#1072968447975227502

Other animals on Layton that deserve improvements:
White Tailed Jackrabbit #1294684372917551215
Whitetail Deer #1314730648338169947
Moose #1317616448939491419
Coyote #1184845232072818688
Merriam Turkey #1083391378920308858

[dense grotto]

bump for a better Layton

[dense grotto]

If we're getting North American Beavers on the next map, I'd love to see them be backfilled onto Layton Lake District.

Who else wants to see beavers on Layton Lake?

[modern kindle]

they would fit very well, but if they really have the feature to cut down trees, i think its unlikely cause the trees must be integrated into the map

[dense grotto]

true, but beavers don't only chew down trees, they can also collect branches from various shrubs and bushes (especially willows) to reinforce their dams. So they could set up a beaver "feed zone" in very brushy areas along the rivers, where they go to collect woody materials and then return to their lodges with them.

[modern kindle]

we have to see how they work

[dense grotto]

true, I'm just saying that there's a few different possibilities

[dense grotto]

also, if the new map has Snow Geese, they could also be added to other maps, including Layton

[dense grotto]

It's also possible that the Ruffed Grouse could be on the new map, which would be a great addition to Layton Lake, Yukon Valley and New England Mountains

[dense grotto]

If the new map is based in British Columbia and has a coastal temperate rainforest environment in it, the Sooty Grouse is also a possible new species. This would be a great species to backfill onto Layton.

[dense grotto]

Since the Wood Duck is coming with the new map, I'd love to see them be backfilled onto Layton

[dense grotto]

This is what their range could potentially be like on the map.

The new Snow Goose is also a good backfill option for Layton.

[dense grotto]

I've updated the original post to reflect the fact that Snow Geese, Wood Ducks and Beavers would now technically be backfilled species from the Alberta map and not brand new species.

[dense grotto]

The new Northern Pintail that's coming with Askiy Ridge is another species that can (and should) be added to Layton Lake

[dense grotto]

This species would really help to bring some more life to Layton's waterways

Potential range map for Northern Pintail on Layton Lake

[dense grotto]

Also, it's important to keep in mind that the order of the animals on the backfilling list is in order of most-needed to least-needed (in my opinion). I think Mountain Goats are the most needed backfill species on Layton because Layton's mountainous regions just feel sort of empty right now. Bighorn Sheep are a species that would be nice to have in the eastern mountains of the map, to further populate these mountainous areas. More waterfowl species are definitely needed in order to make the waterways on Layton feel more alive. Beavers would be a great addition, but might be difficult to add to an existing map, so they aren't essential. Red Foxes and Raccoons would definitely help to make the map feel more alive with a greater variety of small animals. Bobcats and/or Mountain Lions would be nice to have on Layton, but only if they have small populations that are limited to certain parts of the map, and if the animal-spooking logic of the Bobcat gets changed so that they won't spook any animals above Class 4.

[dense grotto]

The same logic applies to the new species list. Ruffed Grouse and Sooty Grouse are my most wanted new species for the map, helping to make Layton's forests feel more lived-in. Ptarmigan and Marmots would further help to make Layton's mountains more full of life. Snowshoe Hare is not essential but would be nice to have in the conifer forests, if the Jackrabbits would stick to the more open areas in the lowlands. American Badgers would be cool but would be a better addition to Silver Ridge Peaks than Layton Lake.

[dense grotto]

The eastern mountains of Layton are beautiful, but there's just not a lot of animals there currently. I think this part of the map could be greatly improved by adding Bighorn Sheep and Mountain Goats to these parts of the map.

These high mountain areas would be neat areas to hunt Mountain Goats, Bighorn Sheep and Mountain Lions

[weak spire]

I want EW to reskin the Dusky Grouse to make Sooty Grouse for this map. It is a great opportunity. Make EW hear it.

[dense grotto]

I think that's a great idea.

[dense grotto]

Layton's northern mountains are also a very nice area, Mountain Goats would be a great addition to that part of the map.

[dense grotto]

thanks for 100 upvotes!

[lost sparrow]

Honestly there's so many species in the game that's native to Washington/Oregon. Obviously some wouldn't work (I'm looking at you Wolves and Caribou) but a lot of others could work spectacularly

[dense grotto]

The new Snow Goose, Wood Duck and Northern Pintail would all be great backfilling options for Layton.

[lost sparrow]

They look gorgeous ngl

[weak spire]

California Bighorn Sheep hunted by J. Alain Smith in Washington State.
Video: https://youtu.be/BtGQdg_1rsY?si=sQpjWwQ-d9bDudli
It's authentic Big Ram!

||Image Credit: J. Alain Smith||

[weak spire]

I want EW to reskin the newly remodeled RM Bighorn Sheep for the new subspecies California Bighorn Sheep.

[dense grotto]

As far as I can tell, the "California Bighorn Sheep" is actually not taxonomically considered to be a separate subspecies from the Rocky Mountain Bighorn, at least not anymore. In the past the Bighorns in Washington, Oregon, British Columbia, etc. were considered to be a separate subspecies from the RM Bighorn, but today the two aren't recognized as different subspecies. The endangered Sierra Nevada Bighorn Sheep lives in California and is a separate species from both the Desert Bighorn and Rocky Mountain Bighorn, but it's restricted to a very small part of California and its range doesn't extend up into Oregon or Washington state.

because of that, I don't think it would be necessary to classify them as California Bighorn Sheep if they get backfilled to Layton, because that's kind of an outdated classification anyway and the Bighorns in that region aren't really that different from what you'd find in the Rockies.

[dense grotto]

hopefully these waterfowl species will eventually get backfilled onto Layton 🙏

[dense grotto]

bumping this back up again

[reef tulip]

Id low key put sooty over ruffed ngl

[dense grotto]

I mean I really want both of them on Layton. But yeah I can see why you might want Sooty Grouse more on Layton than the Ruffed Grouse.

[dense grotto]

I've re-arranged the order for them in the original post now

[reef tulip]

Lol

[dense grotto]

The new Bighorn Sheep models look great! This really makes me want to see them be added to Layton's eastern mountains in the future.

[dense grotto]

These eastern mountains on Layton are beautiful, but they feel sort of empty currently. I would love to see the newly reworked Bighorn Sheep and Mountain Goats in this part of the map.

[dense grotto]

Especially since Whitetail and Moose are both going to be on their sixth map now, I think it's time to rework their range and population on Layton. With five other Whitetail maps and five other Moose maps, I think a reduction for their populations on Layton would be an acceptable sacrifice in order to allow for more backfilling and some new species on Layton.

plus I think many players would be willing to have fewer Whitetails and Moose on Layton for the sake of realism

[reef tulip]

I love em these look so unique

[dense grotto]

Yeah I agree, would love to hunt Bighorns and Mountain Goats in those mountains

[umbral needle]

I say lose the rabbits to make this happen lol. This way we dont lose animal populations for the other animals.

[dense grotto]

I mean it would be more realistic for White-Tailed Jackrabbits to be limited to the lower elevations, then they won't take away from potential Mountain Goat populations on the map.

[dense grotto]

These remodeled Bighorn Sheep look amazing, I'd love to hunt them on Layton. I'd honestly love to hunt these awesome sheep on any map where they could make sense.

[dense grotto]

that one was a big gold. I haven't gotten any of the new diamond ones yet, but from the screenshots I've seen, they look incredible.

These new Wood Ducks look great too, I would love to see them added to Layton.

[lost sparrow]

I have a close up of a Bighorn that scored 193. I’ll share the pic. I’ll remove it if you don’t want it here

[dense grotto]

that's fine, I think it's relevant to the point of this post.

regardless, I do hope we can see Bighorns (and Mountain Goats) be added to Layton someday

The new Snow Geese on Askiy Ridge would also be a great addition to Layton Lake

[elfin quail]

Hey, i’ve been thinking and now I actually have a cool idea on how it “Could” work emphasis I could for having “Gray Wolves” on “Layton Lake District”!….. and that is….. have them be a Holiday Event specifically a “Halloween event Exclusive!” During this “Halloween event” and only during this time gray wolves will be added as a Huntable species on Layton Lake District again only during this monthly event and once the event is over, they will have to be taken back off and we’ll have to wait till the next year have them back on the Event…. Think of it as kind of like the werewolf events from the hunter classic but instead of Cryptids they’re just regular gray wolves thus keeping it more Realistic and spooky.
Plus this does add a fun little holiday challenge for a base game map

[dense grotto]

I wouldn't be against that I suppose, it just probably won't happen because it would be too much work for the COTW devs to do it. But as a thought experiment it's pretty cool I suppose

[livid pike]

Okay Layton lakes is set in washington state, and some animals here dont live there.
also to many animals in this list.
Beaver won't be added most likley, it will be a animal only in canadian reserves, such as askiy ridge. placing beavers in different map would lower the hype for askiy.
Since layton is beginner friendly, Predators wont be added most likly, same with the design of the reserve, to much terrain changes could make it complicated for beginners.
and the ideal habitat is not suit for many of these.
I do agree with reworks, and some backfills but i dont think EW will add all of those species

[dense grotto]

well this post is not really meant to say that EW has to add all of these animals, it just gives a list of potential options. I've done my research, and all of the animals that I brought up in my original post do live in Washington state in real life.

[livid pike]

alright, i agree with some of ur animals, and especially the reworks, so many animals in hirsch and layton need reworks.

[sonic orchid]

Bump

[dense grotto]

bump for Mountain Goats in Layton's mountains

[dense grotto]

I think Layton feels like it should have more small game/furbearers, I think Raccoons, Beavers, Bobcats, and/or Red Foxes would be nice additions to the map

[dense grotto]

I think that some type of Grouse would fit in really well on Layton

[tall yoke]

Bobcats beavers and some type of grouse sounds nice, but also mountain goats and bighorn to fill up them empty mountains that cover half the map

[dense grotto]

absolutely, Bighorns and Mountain Goats would be very nice to have on Layton, especially now that they have much better models and textures than they used to

[tall yoke]

Oh for sure, they would also fit in very well to the biomes

[dense grotto]

I think Layton needs Mountain Goats in the mountainous regions of the map

[tall yoke]

For sure, and Bighorn

[dense grotto]

Imagine seeing herds of Mountain Goats roaming in these mountains on Layton

[dense grotto]

if I had to choose only ten species to add to Layton, here's what I'd add:

Mountain Goat
Northern Pintail
Wood Duck
Snow Goose
Red Fox
Raccoon
Mountain Lion
Sooty Grouse
Ruffed Grouse
White-Tailed Ptarmigan

[tall yoke]

Yeah the mountains are the only places needing to be filled imo, everything else on the map is great except some old models

[weak spire]

Backfilling with returning species or new species?🤔

[rustic quiver]

I agree with this its a very solid lineup

[dense grotto]

we'll have to wait and see I guess.