Erythrism [Rare Fur]

[magic fog]

In COTW, we have rare furs many rare fur types that can be found throughout a variety of animals! The list we have at the moment is Albinism, Melanism, Leucism and Piebaldism. But there is another there lies within the reality of nature.. Erythrism! Erythrism is a genetic mutation like the others I listed before, but this is different. Erythrism can come in a few different colour variations, that are red, orange and pink! With the new map "Askiy Ridge" one of its new and exclusive species the Wood Duck! The Wood Duck has Erythristic, which is a huge hit to this post! If this new rare fur type could make it to multiple species, it would add some diversity and the thrill to the hunt!

Please consider this, EW.

In game animals this would affect:

• Rocky Mountain Elk
• Roosevelt Elk
• Manitoban Elk
• Fallow Deer
• American Alligator
• Lion
• Mountain Lion/Puma
• Gray Wolf
• Coyote
• Side-striped Jackal
• Red Fox
• Raccoon
• Raccoon Dog
• Turkeys (Not sure which species but most likely all of them)

Potential arriving species in the future:

• European Badger
• Skunks
• Polecat
• Zebra
• Hyena
• African Leopard
• Jaguar

[hollow rain]

Would be cool

[magic fog]

Thanks

[magic fog]

The Common Raccoon in cotw has a fur type called blonde and it is an uncommon I think, in real life they are very rare to see as it is Erythrism.

[hollow rain]

Yeah I was gonna say earlier that I’m pretty sure the raccoons in game already exhibit this

[magic fog]

Yeah bengal tigers do too but for raccoons they need to be rarer due to erythrism for raccoons is very rare

[magic fog]

Strawberry Leopard (Erythrism) compared to a regular Leopard

[magic fog]

Erythistic fallow deer

[regal sail]

Hey @magic fog ! Thank you for your insightful suggestion! We’re thrilled to see your enthusiasm for adding more rare fur types to the game, and we agree that Erythrism could bring a unique and exciting element to the hunting experience. We appreciate you taking the time to outline specific animals that could be affected, both from the existing roster and potential future species. If you ever want to share more of your thoughts or if there’s anything specific you’d like to see in future updates, please don’t hesitate to reach out through: https://support.thehunter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new.

[magic fog]

Thank you!

[gritty bramble]

Most blonde raccoons are leucistic, erythrism is an excess of red or orange in mammals and are rarer than leucies, they look more like this.

And maybe this guy but it could just be the lighting making it look more orange.

Also that dark photoshopped jaguar wouldn’t be erythrism even if it wasn’t photoshopped, it would be a variant of Melanism. Overall in full support of this though! The gold bengal tiger is an erythristic animal already in game!

Coyote

Jackal

This could be one of the new furs for gray wolf as an erythristic wolf or it could replace the red brown(which kinda has always been an ery in my head with how it was implemented)

Cinnamon black bears are another erythristic that is already featured in game.

Unfortunately this is the only photo I could find for a erythristic raccoon dog, feel terrible for the poor thing.

Erythristic Alligator, reptiles are interesting as they present as vibrant orange, red, or even pink!

Erythristic turkey

[magic fog]

Erythism makes a bunch of colours, pink, orange, blonde, red and beige.

[gritty bramble]

Pink, orange, and red yes, I’ve never seen beige or blonde mentioned with erythrism in scientific literature. It’s an over production of pheomelanin and sometimes it’s accompanied by an underproduction (or even erasure) of eumelanin which gives the overall lighter appearance, blonde raccoons do not show an overproduction of pheomelanin which is the sole requirement for erythrism. Also the pink is not found in mammals only reptiles and insects.
That zorse foal photo is from a website claiming the mother is a fjord horse, but there are no other photos of it anywhere despite the photo popping up at least 10 years ago. It also looks very similar to the photo editing this photographer used to make pink mammals as a joke after finding an erythristic grasshopper. https://roeselienraimond.wordpress.com/2014/07/28/31-mr-pink-the-pink-grasshopper/

[magic fog]

Pink erythistic zebra

[gritty bramble]

If you’d bothered to read, this is the oldest site this photo comes from https://it.pinterest.com/pin/469992911088037938/ Was posted august 9th 2013.

[magic fog]

Uh

[gritty bramble]

It’s as real as this pink fox is

[gritty bramble]

I’m also pretty confident that if someone with the right tools could look at the meta data for the image and find alterations but honestly you can just compare the stripes on the left and right of the rump with the left being significantly darker for some reason when they should be symmetrical.

[magic fog]

They better give that to us in game..

[magic fog]

If u want (I want you to lol) you can find more cool photos of animals with Erythrism, i kinda need more that aren’t in the list and are in game. But I can still do in fact I might

[minor mortar]

It is ingame, great one

[gritty bramble]

? I said it was a fake image, and yeah as the other person said there’s a great one that color

[gritty bramble]

And I don’t have the tools anymore haven’t for years since adobe products are expensive AH and my laptop that had the previous non subscription version is dead as a doornail.

And as great as procreate is it doesn’t have that capability

[gritty bramble]

Also finding more is quite a challenge as erythrism is far rarer than any other mutation we see in game, example is there’s only around 30-50 golden tigers in the world compared to around 200 white (leucistic) tigers both populations are bred an managed by humans at this point but goldens are exclusively captive, the last wild one possibly having been shot in 1932 although there is debate if they were actually erythristic.

[gritty bramble]

Possibly an erythristic fox but it’s also possible this animal has a form of Amelanism or leucism as red foxes start out well red (or orange.)

Erythristic polecat

Erythristic Striped skunk

Erythristic European badger

[gritty bramble]

Struggling to find more examples of game species, but if they ever do a northern South American map or a Central American map they could use green iguanas (very invasive to Florida and a food source in other places), not really sure if they’re erythristic as reptile breeders always come up with different names for morphs and mix things up a lot to get crazy colors but they could look like this

[magic fog]

Very pretty

[split valve]

Standard coyote pelt on top, erythristic below

[split valve]

Are they really erythristic though? Feel like its more of a natural color than truly eryththric

Erythristic lion compared to a standard lion

[gritty bramble]

Webster dictionary medical definition of erythrism “a condition marked by exceptional prevalence of red pigmentation (as in skin or hair)”

[magic fog]

Yes they are erythistic

[split valve]

I'll take your word for it. The more you know!

[magic fog]

Erythrism can be multiple colours, pink, red, orange and sometimes a beige-ish colour.

Erythristic Leopard found on a trail cam

[magic fog]

Extremely rare Erythristic Elk

Erythristic American Badger

[lavish python]

don't we already have this in game?

I mean we might have a species with different color normal furs and one may be more red in pigmentation than the other .... For example gray vs brown ..... both are considered normal ....

[magic fog]

Not really, we have it for a few animals and they weren’t even confirmed to be Erythristic.

[lavish python]

Sure they don't acknowledge it because a lot of people don't even know what it is .... so instead they just give it a common name that people recognize .... like a light shade of brown as opposed to a darker shade .... and they refer to both as common ....

I really don't see a need to add a term that would just confuse most people and would still be a common or uncommon fur type .... but not rare

[minor mortar]

The thing is there's a huge difference between a red brown and erythrism, one is a variation of the animal and the other is a genetic mutation. Commonly showcased aspects of erythrism are dark colours going a red-brown or orange colour, for example the Gold tiger had erythrism. Many people don't know what leucistic is either yet it's in the game, it shouldn't be confusing.

[lavish python]

So just to be clear you want to introduce another rare fur type? With all species ?

[minor mortar]

Not all, not every species has albino. Just implement it with upcoming animals or add it to some lacking in rare furs.

[lavish python]

fair enough .....

[fickle heron]

Golden Tiger is Erythristic Tiger

[magic fog]

Yep

[west sleet]

The northern pintail on the new map have erythrism as a rare plumage!

[magic fog]

YESSSSS LETS GOOOOOO!!

[minor mortar]

YES

[magic fog]

It’s so pretty

[magic fog]

Erythrism [Rare Fur]

[magic fog]

Erythristic Coyote

Erythristic Whitetail

[split valve]

Coyote ^

[steel axle]

Im 99% sure thats a yote

[gritty bramble]

With a white tail tip that distinct?

[steel axle]

Yes, coyotes can have white tipped tails. Look at its face structure, especially its nose. Notice how it is much broader. Undoubtedly a coyote. The size and size relative to its tail tells alot as well.

Face is much more dog-like

[forest bramble]

That's a yote 100%

[gritty bramble]

Reads more fox to me but I’m gonna try to track down the original posting of the image

[steel axle]

Also look at the pupils, coyotes are round foxes are like a cats.

[gritty bramble]

Unless they’re blown out cats and foxes can both look like they have round pupils at times

[steel axle]

Yes but you can still tell a difference in the eyes even when they are blown out. Also look at the body language of the animal. Cowering much more like a coyote. Also trust me when you've grown up hunting around coyotes and foxes you can tell.

[gritty bramble]

You’re assuming quite a bit with that statement but perhaps I’m just used to the big foxes and yotes of Montana

Dunno why that photo got crunched to bits

Either way doesn’t matter that much in the end could work for both species as a fur but if it’s a yote it won the jackpot in fur colors with the white tail and rare fur on top of it

[steel axle]

I get what you are saying but a fox can’t have a broad nose like that. Coyotes can have both more rounded noses and broad noses while foxes only have round. Also the color patterns around the face and lips match that of a coyote. I agree it would be great to have more fur variations for both and coyotes probably could be reworked in the game. (And added to Mississippi where I’m from!!! Lowkey kind of mad that we don’t have coyotes in the game in MS acres. Plus red fox because we have both red and grey.)

[dull folio]

We already have some Erythristic animals in the game, two with the new map and a few already in game. But we need more!!

Yes, I googled Erythristic Whitetail and an Elk came up, but you get the point

[magic fog]

Yes! If you scroll up you will see images of a Erythristic Whitetail and Elk!

[dull folio]

Oh lol, but you get my point

[magic fog]

Not gonna lie, I don’t 😭

[dull folio]

That we already have Erythristic animals, but need a lot more because they look awesome

[magic fog]

Ohhh like that, yeah 💯

And the Erythristic animals we have in game, most of them aren’t even called that. Like for example, black bear Erythristic is the cinnamon rare fur and it could teach people if it had Erythristic at the start of the name like we do with the new Wood duck

[dull folio]

Please inform me on how these 2 leucistic greylag geese are leucistic? They are clearly erythristic! Changing the name to erythristic would give us 3 rare variants for this amazing goose species.

Same goes for Leucistic mallards

And don't forget the tundra bean goose!

[dull folio]

The only other pre-existing furs in game that are actually erythristic and should be renamed to erythristic (Not including ones already previously discussed or the ones I previously posted)

[magic fog]

Genetics is a complex thing, I don’t really know that’s all I can say 😭

[gritty bramble]

Because Leucism is a partial loss of one or multiple pigments while erythrisim is an over abundance of red pigment or a lack of some normal pigments besides red (usually black)

Tigers are a decent example to use as leucistic tigers still show reddish brown in their stripes while “goldens” lack the black pigment and have more red/orange

Additionally piebalds are examples of either partial leucism or albinism, erythrism usually doesn’t effect the pattern of an animal in a patchy/blotchy way

There’s also the fact that erythyism is far more rare compared to leucism so if you spot an animal that’s lighter in coloration with some red pigment it’s more likely to be leucism.

Leucism is also highly variable as shown by these Canada geese

[compact zinc]

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