How to improve Hirschfelden (graphical updates, animal redistribution, backfilling and new species)

[torpid sorrel]

I think we can all agree that Hirschfelden is starting to show its age. While it's a beautiful map, it could use some work to make it more fun to hunt on. So here are the best ways to do that, in my opinion.

1. Remove the old fake birds from the map. The low-poly birds look really bad and it's easy to confuse them with pheasants or geese in the distance. They were fine when the map was first released, but now they're just an annoyance. Please remove them.

2. Update the graphical quality of the map. Both Hirschfelden and Layton Lake are definitely showing their age, everything just looks more blurry and grainy on them, especially when there's fog/rain. It's definitely noticeable if you play a newer map after playing on either of the base game maps. I think this is a much-needed QOL update.

3. Remodel existing animals. Many of this map's species have been reworked in the past few years, and those ones look great now! However, the Wild Boar, Roe Deer, and European Bison could all benefit from a rework, since their models really show their age at this point.

4. Animal redistribution. Some species on the map are just all over the place and that makes hunting them pretty annoying. I think Red Deer should be in the more wild areas of the map, while Wild Boars should mostly be in the parts of the map with primarily deciduous vegetation. I've created some maps (posted down below) that show where I think these species should be distributed on the map. This would make hunting these species much easier.

5. Backfilling! There are many great backfilling options, but here's the ones I want the most:
   Common Raccoon (introduced in Europe, would be found in eastern parts of the map)
   Western Capercaillie (rare, found in the western forests)
   Black Grouse (more common than the Capercaillie)
   Chamois (found in mountainous areas)
   European Mouflon (renamed version of the Iberian Mouflon on Cuatro)

6. Finally, some new species to spice up the roster:
   European Badger
   Gray Partridge

[queen marten]

This is exactly what Hirschfeldon needs

[lunar coral]

Dude this is splendid, not asking for too much and breathing new life into the map.

[torpid sorrel]

Thanks, that's actually what I was going for here. Not too many changes, but enough to make the map a bit more interesting.

[torpid sorrel]

Potential range map for the raccoon

Potential range map for the Mouflon

Potential range map for the Chamois

Potential range map for the Capercaillie - remember that these guys would be a rare species on the map

Potential european badger range map (they would be found basically everywhere)

potential grey partridge range map (they would basically be found in the same areas as pheasants)

[astral forge]

No way 😂 i thought about today to do exactly that.

idk if thats counts as a graphical update but i would like to see marshes (similar to salzwiesen) were the rivers end instand of these ugly small islands

as for the mouflon homerange i would also like to see them on the fields in rathefeld like a compination of your and my homerange idea would be perfect

[astral forge]

also updating the Graphic on the high alpine regions

[lunar coral]

Missing Chamois 👀

[ornate prism]

This isn’t within the maps borders, is it? I surely don’t remember this being on Hirsch.

[ripe patio]

yes it's at the end of the map but it's easy to access

[ornate prism]

Huh, never knew that. Guess you learn something new every day.

[torpid sorrel]

I agree with you, but the likelihood of actual proper river deltas getting added to the map is... unlikely to say the least. Unfortunately, the amount of work it would take probably wouldn't be worth it, even if they add waterfowl to those areas of the map, it's a lot of work for just a few ducks and/or geese.

[torpid sorrel]

I wouldn't mind that, I just intended for them to (mostly) be on the western side of the reserve, so that's why I went with the range that I did. But your range map is fine too.

[astral forge]

The fields in rathefeld feeling very empty which i would also add them there

[astral forge]

Yeah Probebly very unlikely, sadly

[astral forge]

(Dont mind these orange lines) thats as far as you can go before getting respawned

[nova iron]

I love Hirschfelden, it’s such a great map. Easily one of the most immersive maps EW has given us, it really feels like a real place I could go and hunt IRL.

A few added species to bring it up to speed with the more modern maps would be appreciated though. If nothing else at least add mouflon, they would feel right at home on Hirschfelden.

Would sika be a good fit as a backfill on Hirschfelden? They are one of my favourite deer species and there are some small introduced populations scattered around Germany and much of Central Europe. They would encroach a lot on the territories of the current deer species we have though and may make the map feel a bit crowded I guess.

[lunar coral]

Nah that's why I like the choice in this list

[nova iron]

True, it’s a solid list. All these species wouldn’t feel at all out of place on Hirschfelden without overcrowding the map.

In saying that has anyone else noticed any changes to the Wisent population on Hirsch? I swear I never used to see so many of them, especially around Rotwald. Used to be my go to spot for red deer but I feel that the number of Euro bison has kinda ruined it. I swear there were never so many in the past.

[torpid sorrel]

yeah having just played on Hirsch again for a little while, I agree that those fields feel a bit empty. That being said, I think population redistributions would probably help with that a bit anyway. Maybe they can make it so that there's more Fallow Deer and Wild Boars in that part of the map? Mouflon would be fine there too though, just to diversify the fauna in the region a bit more.

[astral forge]

I think when New england cane out they changed the populations so wisents are now in the entire Western part but the bohndorfhügel Red deer are in every part of hirsch now

[astral forge]

They would fit salzwiesen more they prefer to live in marshland areas

[nova iron]

Sika are pretty adaptable, they can live in all kinds of habitats IRL like most deer. I think they would be a nice addition to Hirsch personally. I wouldn’t know where to fit them in without taking away from the existing red and fallow deer populations though so they are probably best left out. I agree Salzwiesen would be ideal if it were a larger map though.

I also love the idea of chamois on the map, it would be a lot like the hunting chamois in Schwarzwald rather than some of the high alpine hunting that you usually see. I do wish Hirsch extended a little further west to better accommodate them as the range Fuzion highlighted would feel a little cramped outside of Rotwald.

[merry delta]

This would be a nice change for that map.

[torpid sorrel]

having explored some of the high elevation areas in the southwest of the map, there is definitely enough mountainous terrain along the western border for there to be a lot of Chamois up there. It's just hard to get up into the higher mountains there currently, you have to basically spam jump from the cliff bottoms to get up above the main area of the map, and once you get up there, there's no animals to be found (because you're not really supposed to be able to go up there currently).

If EW were to update the map so that there would be another outpost up there, that would make the area a lot more accessible and would create the perfect opportunity to hunt Chamois (and potentially other mountain game) up there. The terrain textures would need a bit of an update too in that area of the map (it's not very detailed currently for obvious reasons), but that would be worth it imo. The way the map is currently would greatly limit the amount of Chamois habitat to just the base of the mountains (which I highlighted in my range map for them) but if EW is willing to go the extra mile there could be a lot of great habitat for Chamois in the western frontier of the reserve.

I don't expect EW to add Alpine Ibex or Marmots to those areas of Hirschfelden. There's just not enough habitat for them in the current reserve's borders and I don't think they'd expand the map further west to accommodate them because of potential performance issues that might result from that. That being said, Chamois are still certainly a possibility on the map the way it is currently, they just might need to rework some of the areas in the southwest to make hunting them there actually viable.

[astral forge]

do you think badgers should have burrows and work similar to the rabbits or should they function like every other animal?

[lunar coral]

This rework really should be done tbh

[torpid sorrel]

I think burrows are a necessity to make badgers not just feel like every other small carnivore that is already in the game. That being said, they should definitely spend more time outside their burrows than the rabbits do currently.

also, if anymore burrowing animals get added, EW will need to make burrow locations visible on the map. I'm sick and tired of forgetting where a rabbit burrow location was.

[nova iron]

I’d wish all burrowing animals would be more mobile, hunting rabbits feels a little too much like playing whack-a-mole.

Rabbits should travel 100m or so away from their burrows, like Onkel_Monte suggested in his post. Badgers should travel quite a bit further I think.

They would leave their dens, do a circuit around their need zones, before returning back to their dens to rest.

[torpid sorrel]

Yeah I definitely agree. Burrowing animals should do more than just hang out near their burrows.

[torpid sorrel]

If EW were to add any more waterfowl species to Hirschfelden, which ones would you like to see on the map? I feel like there's a lot of rivers and lakes on the map and some of them feel a bit empty without any waterfowl in them currently.

[astral forge]

Ferriginus duck and tufted duck mainly All ducks i would like to See here made Homeranges for them :https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1196543329467375636

But if ew adds ducks to hirsch i would Want them to be just a few like 3-5 per small lake and then some places that are Hotspots

[torpid sorrel]

personally I'd want to see the Eurasian Teal and Tufted Duck on Hirschfelden. The Ferruginous Duck can remain a Salzwiesen exclusive since it came out with the map.

Mallards would be nice to have on Hirsch as well, although they're on so many other maps now that it's a bit unnecessary

[astral forge]

I Kinda want to All euro ducks on hirsch but more like as Ambient birds that you can shot

[torpid sorrel]

and we might as well add Black Grouse to the potential backfill list, since apparently they're relatively common in Germany as well.

not gonna put any duck species on there though because I have limited characters in my original post.

[astral forge]

yeah with salzwiesen we dont realy need ducks on hirsch, i wouldnt mind them but Backfills like mouflon or capercallie are more importend backfills to hirsch ..

[torpid sorrel]

yeah I think so too. Animals like the Raccoon, Mouflon and Capercaillie would be much more impactful additions to Hirschfelden

[torpid sorrel]

Potential range map for Black Grouse on Hirschfelden.

With Black Grouse and Capercaillie being on the west side, and Pheasant and Grey Partidge on the east side, the map would have a total of four upland game birds. I think that's plenty.

[astral forge]

If would like if there would be some black grouse in the marked areas were the small spruce trees and windmills are

[quartz viper]

That's beautiful

[torpid sorrel]

Yeah there could be a few Black Grouse in those little areas as well, as long as those particular areas aren't too heavily populated by the pheasants or partridges (which I would want to be the primary game birds in most of the eastern fields).

[torpid sorrel]

I think adding the Black Grouse and Raccoon would help to make Hirschfelden feel more connected to Salzwiesen Park in terms of the local wildlife that is present, without taking away from SP's status as the German waterfowl map.

[torpid sorrel]

Here's a thread that discusses reworking the European Bison model, which I think would make them more enjoyable to hunt on Hirschfelden.
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1301718610426859540

And while we're on the topic, here are some posts that discuss remodeling the Roe Deer and Wild Boar as well.

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1217764542847909888
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1125130878813749309

[queen marten]

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1283085743899541616 Also for Roe Deer

[karmic parrot]

Just to add to this #1196543329467375636

[karmic parrot]

What's this?

[astral forge]

hirschfelden with proper river deltas and more various fields

and a moor

[karmic parrot]

Like it, what would the other fields be?

[astral forge]

the dark are corn fields; the dark green meadows like salz has and light brown are the normal straw field

[karmic parrot]

Not bad, idk if it fits the season but I'm no expert but I'm in favor

[astral forge]

the light green would be a Orchard meadow

[astral forge]

it wouldnt realy change the season except the light green

[torpid sorrel]

I would love to have the river deltas, but redoing the fields isn't necessary imo. The fields on Hirsch currently are fine the way they are.

[torpid sorrel]

bump again

also, we're almost at 80 upvotes.

[astral forge]

i realy want to see that the bohndorfhügel gets some tweaks its so hard to cilmp

[nova laurel]

👍

[nova laurel]

🙃

[torpid sorrel]

bump for a better Hirschfelden

[nova laurel]

bump

[rancid sonnet]

101 upvotes now

[nova laurel]

bump

[nova laurel]

bump

[torpid sorrel]

I totally agree, the western parts of the map make far more sense as Red Deer territory

[astral forge]

i was searching trough the canyon in bohndorf literary called red deer canyon (i found 1 male)

i also visited some higher elevatins of hirsch and the more i do that the more i can see myself hunting chamois there

[torpid sorrel]

yeah I felt the same way when exploring the areas like Bohndorf and some of the other high areas in the western parts of the map

it also feels like the more wild areas in the west of the map should definitely have some sort of upland game bird, like the Capercaillie or Black Grouse

[torpid sorrel]

bump for the European Badger

[nova laurel]

bump

[feral heart]

This is probably my favourite suggestion, not too overkill but not too little either, this is EXACTLY what Hirschfelden needs! This map is overall the most realistic place for hunting already in my opinion, but graphical updates and new species would make this map even better! Love this!

[torpid sorrel]

thank you for your support 🙏

[torpid sorrel]

bumping this back up again

[feral heart]

Gonna help you bump this

[astral forge]

Why dont add lions to hirsch ? @rancid sonnet

[rancid sonnet]

and spy pigeons and unicorns

[feral heart]

Bumpé

[dusk gust]

This would make me actually play hirschfelden muchhh more, great job!

[karmic parrot]

What do we think about other mustedlids? Stoat, weasel, pine marten, beech marten, polecat, river otter and such

[torpid sorrel]

if they live in Germany, then I wouldn't be against adding them to Hirschfelden. Badgers are just much more recognizable than most smaller mustelids.

I think the European Pine Marten would be a fine addition to Hirschfelden, Salzwiesen and maybe even Revontuli, they are native to most of Europe

but afaik Pine Martens aren't a very highly requested species, and they aren't high on my wishlist either

bigger mustelids like Badgers or Wolverines are by far the most requested ones, so I think those have a higher chance of making it into the game.

[karmic parrot]

They all do, mustelids are quite common down there

[torpid sorrel]

alright, cool. I wouldn't be against adding smaller mustelids to Hirschfelden or any other maps. They just aren't a big priority for me due to their small size.

[astral forge]

what would you think of adding a small population of lynx to the western parts of Hirsch ?

[torpid sorrel]

I mean I wouldn't be against it, I just don't think it's necessary. I don't think Hirschfelden really needs a feline predator like that.

[astral forge]

Okay i just wanted to hear your opinion

[torpid sorrel]

Bump for the Grey Partridge

[glacial drum]

Is there a way to get to the top of the post without having to scroll a bunch?

[astral forge]

yes there is one way @glacial drum

[glacial drum]

Thank you very much

[karmic parrot]

Y'all also might want to check out #1196543329467375636 ❤️

[torpid sorrel]

Hirschfelden deserves a rework

[gaunt crest]

Yes, please!

[gaunt crest]

This also, please!

[astral forge]

one thing i like to do on hirsch is hunting from the ingame stands, but they also kinda show their age. Some new stand types would be pretty need. And the new stand from alberta is pretty common troughout germany.

also the option to choose if you wanna build a stand or a tent would be need since some location would fit stands very good but there are tents instand

also some more stand types found in germany

[torpid sorrel]

yeah that would be a nice little quality of life addition, I'd like that

[astral forge]

Possible Homerange for Euro Hare

i would really want to hunt them on hirsch with the Gopi 10GA. Maybe even on Salzwiesen but thats an diffrent topic.

[torpid sorrel]

I think it would be great to have those on another map

[astral forge]

on the first view beutiful, on the second mehh

[torpid sorrel]

yeah I agree, I think all of the older maps could use some graphical updates to bring them up to the standards we've come to expect from the newer ones

[nova laurel]

(Use DSR if you own a nvidia card, image quality is really nice)

[glacial drum]

I think the maps all looks as beautiful as another, though some feature specific stuff like the snow on Alberta, Hirschfelden is still my favorite map even though i think the map design in terms of how the landscape should be formed is needed but the looks of it aren’t outdated at all in my opinion. I also think we won’t get map texture and graphic updates because it’s not needed and it’s a lot of work. Animals i can imagine are easier to work with but considering the maps (comparing Sundarpatan to like Hirschfelden) makes the older ones look outdated, but they’re still beautiful maps

[karmic parrot]

Ik most of you already know it but If you don't and like this y'all might wanna check out https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1196543329467375636

[torpid sorrel]

bumping this back up again

[karmic parrot]

Valid

[astral forge]

what would you guys think about a paid version of hirsch with

• a nearly new map layout (proper river deltas, more fields with more variety and a complete redesigned and expaned western inspired by the Allgäu apls of Bavaria ),
• New Species (Euro Badger, Patridges, Alpine Ibex, etc)
• other species that are already ingame with an remodel.

The Hirschfelden 2.0 would then have 19 species in total and would be completly diffrent for the most part.

[ripe patio]

It would be a little weird to have to pay for a base map, since it's supposed to be free for everyone, but I understand that a major upgrade requires a lot of resources, so I have mixed feelings about the idea.

[torpid sorrel]

yeah I feel pretty much the same way

[glacial drum]

It would be cool but that effort we would have to pay for i believe, idk how it could work

[astral forge]

Yeah i see the problem. It would need a lot of work still altough not thst much as an entirly new map. But on the other they do a bigger free update because of the less map effort. Backfills and remodels to species that are extremly unlikly to be on an another map (take the spanish ibex for example)

[glacial drum]

Ik that was an example but here’s a thread that could actually give them a rework, if you’re interested: https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1259895162860212275
Totally get your point tho

[ripe patio]

It's true that if one day my idea comes into the game, we could at the same time include the Alpine ibex, the European mouflon, or the capercaillie if we can see it in Germany. In addition to the northern shoveler for example.

[astral forge]

Yeah i know that one, its pretty good. We have to get atleast one europe that includes most of the europe species that needs a remodel aswell as requested species (alpine ibex, etc). But i doubt the spanish ibex or ibirian wolf would be on a new map simply because that would be atleast 5 returning species and i also doubt that would be the onlynreturning ones ....

[ripe patio]

If we need a second map with Iberian wolves, there are some on the Spanish side in the Pyrenees. I based it on that, but for me, it's the French part, but the Iberian wolves brush against the French part of the Pyrenees, to the point where there are encounters between Iberian wolves and Italian ones that are now in France. Otherwise, we can take advantage of the Apennine wolf and the ibex coming out to reshape the ibex and the Iberian wolf. Or like the Himalayan thar that arrived on the New Zealand map when no maps had been released at that time. They did a backfill on a small update. So a reshape of just a wolf and an ibex that comes out at the same time as a small patch update is a good way to have a new model. otherwise we cheat a little and we do a bit like the Vhuronga duck, but in France, like the Iberian wolf only (I base myself on my map) on the western mountains or just in the west and that of the Apennines in the east and in the Alps. Every means is good to arrive at a solution.

[torpid sorrel]

A rework for European Bison would really help to make Hirschfelden feel more modern and more fun to hunt on:
#1301718610426859540
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1392555309339377858

[glacial drum]

https://stuttgart.armymwr.com/application/files/9114/9272/9495/Guide_05_German_Hunting_Law_2013-08.pdf

This link might help provide some information, it’s about hunting in Germany

[glacial swan]

Not a bad idea but I think we should just leave this map behind and forget about it

[torpid sorrel]

why? It's been in the game since the very beginning, doesn't it deserve some attention from EW?

[earnest schooner]

I rather them upgrade maps instead of just leaving them to rot

Im sure the community would appreciate it too

[torpid sorrel]

yeah I agree, they shouldn't just neglect the older maps

[astral forge]

One backfill per Update would be more then enough to helpdesk the older maps out

[glacial drum]

Adding more animals to Hirschfelden will definetly make the game more popular, especially if they do a 2025 trailer say if they add them in the coming update yk.

[astral forge]

Fingers crossed for that 🤞

[astral forge]

In the promotional Material for the New dlc they only showed scenes from hirschfelden so far ....

I doesent need to have a meaning but in the past they used a Mix of layton and hirsch and now they only used hirsch for that

Maybe its a clue ? Or just wish thinking by me ...

[glacial drum]

Maybe, but also maybe you can look through the trailers and see where they stopped using Layton and look for some sort of clue? Any sort of clarity helps since there’s barely any community interaction with the dev team anymore

[astral forge]

In the rapid hunt pack they both used layton and hirsch, in the dev diary and the Trailer they only used hirsch. Also they threw in random shots of hirsch in the diary but i have to watch it again to make they were random ...

[glacial drum]

Yeah seems odd they use two maps for one pack and one map for the other

[terse nova]

i recently started hunting on Hirsh more so i love this suggestion.

[glacial drum]

What do you think of it?

[terse nova]

its a fun map with personally cool species but its to dense its like being a mouse walking through a bush

[glacial drum]

Hahaha yeah it’s what i like about it personally, in general i prefer to hunt in mildly open and forested areas

[terse nova]

one time a diamond euro bison was standing there and i didnt notice till i spooked it cause i literally could not see

[glacial drum]

Surprised it didn’t go aggressive

[shrewd cosmos]

Getting a trophy feels all the more rewarding

[terse nova]

ikr

crap how do you tag people again

[astral forge]

I looked at it again, near the end there are drone camera shots of hirschfelden that dont connect with what the Person is saying ...

every camara shot could also have been taken on layton, but they decided just to Do hirsch

[grizzled gazelle]

i just want less geese! or at least lower their call volume! I find the constant goose honks non stop incredibly annoying.. And they have taken over every single map now, including Africa, totally overkill. Dont need so many,, id say about a 3rd of the current spawn rate would be plenty. Or perhaps only activate the calling honk etc when they desend or take off or on the ground.. But when flying overhead can do without the constant honks

[torpid sorrel]

it might mean something for the future, or maybe not. They might just like using Hirsch for showing off new weapons and stuff. I wouldn't get too excited about something like that.

[astral forge]

I think its just a bit odd that they now only used hirsch while in the past they used both base game maps and dlc maps for showing of new weapons and Equipment....

[glacial drum]

Could be a very vague hint to what’s coming since a new european map would make alot of sense

[astral forge]

Yeah i thought that too

Also they showed off the New 22. In the spruce tree forests where only foxes would be huntable with it.

That could be a hint for upland game in this areas

[glacial drum]

Idk that sounds too vague according to me but maybe i ain’t thinking big enough yk

[astral forge]

I think that i'm just seeing Things that i want to see

Wishful thinking yk

[glacial drum]

Gotcha

[astral forge]

Still, we can dream about it and hope that it comes to the game🤞

[glacial drum]

Let’s hope so

[astral forge]

I'm just gonna leave this in here https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1301974930002546760

[gaunt crest]

It is for driven hunting

[torpid sorrel]

I really think Hirschfelden could be a lot more interesting to hunt if more animals were added to the map.

[glacial drum]

Depens on what animals, and how many. I honestly don’t think it needs as many as other maps, there are just some that are essential for a german map (mouflon, chamois, european badgers and capercaillies or some other grouse maybe, but mostly i’d prefer wood pigeons)

They could also add the lynx to the western spruce forests of the map since the map is a European mix it’s not really a real place except central Euroep. Lynxes were introduced to the Black Forest or Schwarzwald some time ago and now they are thriving there so they could be cool as well

Honestly instead of making a new european map they should just backfill to Hirschfelden and Cuatro colinas (But there is a thread for Cuatro, so i won’t talk about it here more than that)

[torpid sorrel]

If the Mouflon would get a slight rework to their models, and would get renamed to the European Mouflon, they would be a great addition to Hirschfelden's hills and forests.

also a rework to the Roe Deer would really help to make Hirschfelden a more fun and enjoyable map to hunt on:
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1217764542847909888

[karmic parrot]

Ik you probably know this but for everyone else i also wanna add that there is no such thing as an Iberian mouflon

[gaunt crest]

I remind EW that Rischfelden is claiming 19 species — the maximum number of species on a map.

[gaunt crest]

Please do not remove the fake birds; I dislike the sky without them. It feels more alive that way.

My proposal for more species for Hirschfelden: Sika Deer, European Mouflon, Gray Partridge, European Woodcock, European Badger, Eurasian Lynx, Wildcat, Otter, Tree Marten, and Wood Pigeon.

[karmic parrot]

I wouldn't assume it's the technical maximum

[gaunt crest]

You have the reason. You know what I mean. The number of species in COTW is very unequal.

[astral forge]

Mouflon
Chamois
Capercaillie
Blackgrouse
Lynx (low population)
Euro hare

That what i would want for the map. I think every map should have atleast 13-15 species

For 19 species i would choose those:
European badger
Sika deer
Gray patridge
Racoon dog

[torpid sorrel]

if they aren't going to remove the fake birds, they should at least make them show up less often, so that they aren't popping up everywhere and making it hard to focus on hunting pheasants and geese.

[glacial drum]

I don’t mind seeing an eagle every now and then because that’s a cool addition that gives the map more life than just what is huntable so i wouldn’t remove those (especially since maybe someday we can get bald eagles diving for fish on Yukon maybe, would be cool to see). But having just a bunch of random birds lie on the ground which are mostly seagulls isn’t also just unrealistic but confusing as to which they are huntable or not (we even see seagulls in spruce forests just lying on the ground like that needs to go)

[astral forge]

I´ll try to revivie my former red deer hot spot with the feeders. if that doesent work i can only pray for an redistrubution update

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works good so far

3 males and tons of females
the group before was just one male and 4 or 5 females

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do i have to explain the problem ?

[karmic parrot]

Yes, tell me

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😑

There are more red deer in the fields then in the western hills. in the past the spot were the first picture is was loaded with red deer herds. there were like 4-5 herds with 10 animals each !!

nowadays its pretty empty thanks to red deer redistrubution so they are now spreaded over the entire map.

[karmic parrot]

Oh yeah

[astral forge]

where is my guided lodge tour of yours?

[karmic parrot]

Oh shi, I'll do it tmrw, remind me. I'm not a scam I swear 🙏

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i´ll will

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my plan seems to work

in the late evening there were atleast two more males. makes up to 5 males i had at this spot today

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I thought it was that there weren’t any roe deer

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No roe deer come into the post feeder. My problem was that there are higher red deer population in the eastern fields then in the western mountains where they should have higher populations

[glacial drum]

Yeah idk about red deer zones irl but it makes more sense to have them in the spruce forests. I usually only see like one Big group and some solo males whenever i hunt around there

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I dreamed that they added sunflowers and other crops to the fields of hirsch, i hope this is somewhat of a sign