African Small game reserve

[zenith thunder]

A map about 3/4the usual size, focused on a specific hunt.

The Tiny Ten

They are not all here, there's more places to see these beautiful animals after all, but this will give you a taste of Africa's most difficult challenge.

They aren't dangerous, but simply finding these little beasts will be the challenge, after all, they generally don't use water sources. Most of the Tiny Ten have adapted to get all the water they need from the foods they eat. Some have been known to go months without drinking. Aside from that, they inhabit forests, dense shrub, and grasslands that can hide them from all manner of predators.

The list is focused on class 1 and 2, but there is a class 3 predator in the area that'll be just as elusive and the antelopes you're seeking.

Blue duiker
Common duiker
Sharpes Grysbok
Klipspringers
Oribi
Damara Dikdik
Steenbok
Red duiker

A small handful of birds will add some new sounds to the landscape

Helmeted Guineafowl
Red necked spurfowl
Namaqua sandgrouse
And by the water's edge Egyptian Geese

Stalking them all is the Caracal, an Apex Predator in it's own right and a challenge for the best hunter's skills.

This is a small farm, by African standards, where a crop of maize is grown every year. You've been hired by the Farm's owner, and Expat Scottish Colonel who spends far too much time watching spaghetti westerns and challenging you to hunts.

Is this the small game paradise you've Ben craving?

Here's a few of the amazing animals you'll cross paths with

[bright matrix]

Monkeys?

[zenith thunder]

Remember I said he likes westerns? As mildly annoying as he can be about them, he does provide you an interesting new rifle to hunt with.

Why does it feel familiar?

[zenith thunder]

Not right now at least

[proper nest]

I’d like to see more real, meaningful changes alongside these mini reserves. I get the feeling Salzweisen was a merely test run. Across the board reworks for calibers with classes 1, 2, and 3 in their range hopefully coming soon!

[zenith thunder]

I'm hoping to get them interested in bringing some of Classic's best to this game, and I want them to realize there's more than birds in the small game category

[proper nest]

Yeah, rabbit AI in particular is really weird, has been for a looooong time.

[zenith thunder]

I'm just sick of constant bird noise too, classic had settings for it but the "modern " game deosnt

[proper nest]

Huge missed opportunity with salz

[zenith thunder]

It's weird to focus so heavily on bird hunting all of a sudden when there's so many small issues with every other aspect of the game. GOs in particular feel like a waste of resources

[zenith thunder]

Tiny antelopes

[bright matrix]

What about hyrax?

[tawdry sun]

Damara dik-dik and Sharpe’s grysbok on the same map would be like having a Polar Bear, Brown Bear, Grizzly Bear and a Black Bear on the same map. I completely reject this idea. It’s a cocktail of mixed species with no coherence.

[whole hare]

Hey now Polar Bears live alongside several different Brown Bear subspecies including Grizzly Bears and in Eastern Canada Polar Bears can easily encounter American Black Bears so that is not the greatest example to use

How do you think grizzly-polar bear hybrids started popping up in recent times, the first few of these hybrids came from Northern Canada, which have breeding populations of Grizzly Bears and Polar Bears

[tawdry sun]

Yes, it is a good example. Eurasian Brown Bear, Polar Bear and American Grizzly Bear and American Black Bear in same map ❌. Some species of the Tiny Ten coexist, like polar bears and grizzlies, but there are species that are separated between Namibia and Tanzania. It’s the same case as the Lesser Kudu and Springbok, which so many people criticize.

[tawdry sun]

Would you like the idea of a map with six different turkeys for the World Slam? Well, I wouldn’t.

Of course, I love The Tiny Ten ❤️

[whole hare]

But you also listed Polar Bears

And if a Canadian North Reserve included Polar, Black and Grizzly Bear on one map it could be done in a way that makes sense with Black Bears staying below the treeline and Polar Bears sticking to the coast and offshore islands

Though I will agree on the Sharpe’s Grysbok on a map with species like Damara Dik-dik being the same as the Lesser Kudu problem on Vurhonga

A more suitable inclusion would have been the Cape Grysbok, which inhabits the same parts of South Africa as the Blue and Red Duikers (southern coast)

I would also say that the Damara Dik-dik should not be included since they inhabit Northern Namibia

Suni Antelope live in the same parts of South Africa that the Red, Blue and Grey Duiker, Klipspringer, Steenbok, Cape Grysbok and Oribi all live and would be more fitting then the Damara Dik-dik

[zenith thunder]

@whole hare and @tawdry sun

Let me just ask, why are you overthinking this?

I literally described the area as being owned by a strange type of person. None of the tiny ten are particularly rare and considering their size, they'd probably be as easy to trap and transport as any other small animals. This map is more meant as a way to bring a nice small game rifle to CotW from Classic and remind people there's more types of small game than rabbits and ceaseless noise birds

[zenith thunder]

Bump

[spiral bone]

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[zenith thunder]

Wow, thought this was dead

[smoky belfry]

I would recommend including Springhare on the map. They’re an interesting small game species that I’d love to see someday.

[tight fiber]

This is a genuinely great idea!
@mr.schrader is right - additionally you could choose from Springhaas, White-tailed Mongoose, Small-spotted Genet, African Civet, South African Crested Porcupine, Rock Hyrax (Dassie), Black-backed Jackal, Aardwolf, and Aardvark - any of these + your Caracal could be specialty night hunts even.

I made this list knowing there's also the three hyenas, other cats, and the honey badger, of course, but I love your idea of having the Caracal as the map's apex.

[smoky belfry]

Honey Badgers would make for an interesting species as well. They’re not really an apex predator, more of a ferocious opportunist. I think having them go aggressive too would be not only funny but potentially dangerous too as they will not give up.

[golden matrix]

Different monkeys and baboons could be added too to this reserve along with civets and maybe a bird of prey species

[proper nest]

No bird of prey. That’s stupid

[inland valley]

Define a bird of prey

[inland valley]

Falcons, owls and eagles are not closely related that's ai bullcrap, the closest things to a falcon is a parrot so it's just a grouping that doesn't make sense, also parrots aren't raptors they have a kind tooth instead of using its feet

[mighty cairn]

raptors such as vultures, eagles, bearded vultures, all of which are birds of prey and are strictly forbidden to hunt them and even these are not game species but historically hunted because they were feared and due to beliefs about baby kidnappings etc.

[proper nest]

Them being related has nothing to do with what was displayed.

[mighty cairn]

if hawks, owls and eagles are birds of prey, if you want all birds that we have tamed to help us hunt (falconry) if I don't say stupid things are birds of prey

[inland valley]

Om just pointing out that there is no one definition to bird of pray and that things like parasitic jaegars are hunted which kind of are birds of prey, so are white tailed sea Eagles near my home

[proper nest]

Say that then instead of trying to skirt around it and like silently hinting at something.

[inland valley]

Lol ye, well honestly this ain't the hill in gonna die on so I'll give this to you but I will die on the hill that you can't clearly define birds of prey

[proper nest]

Birds-of-Prey are a group of birds that share a similar role. Open and shut case

[inland valley]

No not open and shut case, is a kea a bird of prey?

[mighty cairn]

Bird feeding mainly on vertebrates, captured alive and grasped by its curved claws or claws. (Raptors have a hooked maxilla, folded down in front of a straight and short mandible; we distinguish the falconiformes, or accipitriformes, also called “diurnal raptors”, and the strigiformes, or “nocturnal raptors”.)

here is a definition according to Larousse. A dictionary including here is the definition of raptor which is the synonym of birds of prey. So there is definitely a definition for this animal.

[inland valley]

You can't define it it's just some dumb idea but I see what you mean and what you don't want in-game

[proper nest]

And in your case, skuas are not considered birds of prey because Ornithologist don’t count them as such.

Kea’s are omnivores like most birds… except birds-of-prey

[inland valley]

That's like saying marihouna is illegal because authorities count it as that.

@mighty cairn that's fair but falcons are birds of prey so are keas but they aren't raptors so they're two different things I think we can clearly define raptors

[tight fiber]

Wtf are y'all arguing about and for 0 relevance to the topic lol

[proper nest]

Read like… 15 messages up

[proper nest]

I trust ornithologists more than the authorities.

[mighty cairn]

what does a kea look like?

[inland valley]

So in short I understand what you mean and what you don't want in COTW, I think you can clearly define raptor and that's fine but I do not think you can define bird of prey as an Orni neerd

[proper nest]

Birds-of-prey and raptor’s are typically synonymous

[inland valley]

Topically yes in like common discourse but if you speak scientific they are not, falcons are birds of prey but not raptors, bird of prey isn't a scientific term like raptor

[mighty cairn]

Is this the endemic parrot of New Zealand, the kea?

[inland valley]

So take your side what do you think

[winged rover]

tbh idgaf

[mighty cairn]

ah ok, well no it's a Psittaciformes not a bird of prey

[inland valley]

Based 😭
Om still forcing you to get an opinion 😈

[proper nest]

They are omnivores as well. Not strict carnivores

[mighty cairn]

if you want me too I wanted to have birds of prey but it was explained to me and everything and so now I accept.

[mighty cairn]

yes I saw that he ate worms but not rabbits, deer, goats or anything like that.

[inland valley]

Raptors are clearly defined, a bird of prey is just a bird that preys on other things it's a vague classification for common discourse and that's fine but we do not need to pretend like bird of prey is clearly defined like raptor or duck is

[winged rover]

why are yall talking bout raptors

[mighty cairn]

a bird of prey and a raptor are the same thing.

[winged rover]

raptor come from jurassic park

[mighty cairn]

this also refers to birds of prey, it is another name for talking about them

[winged rover]

them dino legs taste good cant lie

[mighty cairn]

you have to be careful with Wikipedia anyone can put anything

[inland valley]

😮‍💨 they are clearly not the same, raptors grab with ther feet it's in there name raptor and bird of prey are just predators bird

Screen in DMs? 👉👈

[winged rover]

well they changed it ofc

[mighty cairn]

As you wish

[inland valley]

You were dumb enough to not take a screenshot right after

[winged rover]

mb ill do better

[inland valley]

Now y'all quiet 🤐🤫🗣️

[winged rover]

stfu

[inland valley]

Omg 💅
Oh crap moose dragon is writing im dead

[whole hare]

To get back onto the topic of the thread, some sort of African Dove species like Namaqua Dove or Cape Turtle Dove wouldn't be too out of place, and small game like Cape Porcupine, Vervet Monkey and Rock Hyrax would be cool inclusions

[mighty cairn]

no it's okay, it's him who explained this story to me about this impossible thing that the birds of prey are in the game.

must not forget that these are a small map, I would like to remind you of this in case someone puts a large creatures

[inland valley]

I would enjoy those although I doubt them Beeing added. why do you think they shouldn't be?

[whole hare]

As for some multi-mount ideas: A multi-mount showcasing all the duiker species on this map would be fitting

[inland valley]

I would love to see all tiny ten species maybe most on a park and a map or shared over 2-3 maps cape grysbok is the only one kinda tricky, might put em on Vurhonga

[tight fiber]

Vurhonga would be perfect for Klipspringer up on the Plateau

[zenith thunder]

OKAY, TO CLARIFY THIS AGAIN.

THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS MAP IS TO EXPLORE SMALL GAME THAT ARE NOT BIRDS.

Yes, I get it. People love birds. But there are hundreds of other animals that would be much more UNIQUE trophies than some variation of chickens.

I want to see smaller game like musk deer, muntjac and wallabies to get some recognition. For this map I'd be happy to see springhaas or monkeys but if I'm gonna add something in particular it'll be the white tailed mongoose

[tight fiber]

I love it - and totally think this reserve idea is awesome. Would really help to fill out the smaller plaques and such beyond more ducks and bunnies lol

[inland valley]

Is kirks dik dik already on the list?

If you like tiny ten animals im working on something...

[tight fiber]

No idea, gimme

[inland valley]

Ye ye wait I've been planning it out for a cupple days but it's not finished yet

[inland valley]

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1327441115250692167

[zenith thunder]

I love the tiny ten, and pretty much everything similar to them