#COTW Grind

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sturdy wren
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Hello dear COTW team,
Could you please improve the grind again.
Since the last grind update it takes much longer to grind.
Back then it was simply more fun to grind than it is today.

I wish you could take a look at this.

Thanks a lot

wispy rivet
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I would like to see, that grinding becomes obsolete. Please offer alternative ways to find the nice trophys like g1s... making the game a shooting gallery, where you repeatedly kill hundrets of the animals with oversized cartridges (e.g. shooting fallow deer with the arzyna to stop them from running) without picking them up... this is not the type of gameplay EW should enforce to reach g1s.

left kestrel
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Jumping from tent to tent is not a playstyle that EW should support.
It’s already much more effective than casual hunting, and creating an even bigger advantage for it is something I personally don’t support. 🤔

wispy rivet
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I only do roaming hunts and see whar I can find. I don't turn the game into a shooting gallery. I want to hunt, not to poach.

frozen gorge
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I myself prefer the game to be a shooting gallery but not nessisarly a grind. I like to shoot things and not just constantly walking. Thats what I like about the new map Salzwiesen. I can just load up and walk around the map and it has animals around every corner. Its action packed without having to go tent to tent to find animals. The bigger maps need more animals. Unfortunately that won't happen until the older consoles gets pushed out. Please everyone go buy the updated consoles for the holidays if they can. I want more animals 😂

wispy rivet
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I would like to see gameplay loops to avoid the grind for g1s... give us some challenges and if we manage them spawn a g1 somewhere on the map as reward for a questline.

left kestrel
inner jetty
wispy rivet
# left kestrel But that would be scripted. G1 would lose its value, just like the ‘legendary fi...

Grind means repeating the same minmaxed gameplayloop over and over again. The chances are so low, that it barely makes sense without losing all fun at the game.
I would be okay with grinding for a g1 if the chance for a g1 be a third of a diamond or something like that.
But right now collecting all g1s means hundrets of hours of repetitive gameplayloops while circling through all tents and mass killing animals.

This is more like poaching, not hunting. Sorry to say so.

What's the value of a g1 trophy if you grinded for it hundrets of hours through piles of dead animals... in fact, these huge amounts of killed animals de-value every diamond or gold animal.

I do only roaming hunts and see what I can find and value every diamond... or even gold animal...

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Rising chances of g1 to spawn would also still bring the surprise cause you don't know where it is on your map... unless you have a grindsetup and rotate through your tents, which also breaks immersion for me, when you fast travel 100 times an hour and see more loading screens than nature.

left kestrel
# wispy rivet Rising chances of g1 to spawn would also still bring the surprise cause you don'...

I’m not a grinder and never will be. I hunt animals while walking around.
A Great One should be rare, but I’m not saying it can’t be less rare than it is now. Without grinding, I’ll probably never find one, but that will never convince me to start grinding and exploiting the game mechanics.

However, if the chance for it to spawn was higher—like 1 in 10 compared to a diamond—I would prefer that. At the same time, more people might stop grinding because they’d know they have a chance even without it.

But having to fulfill certain conditions or missions to make it spawn feels scripted and not exciting to me.

fallen robin
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It’s a GRIND. It’s supposed to take a long time. Obviously it’s fairly luck based and some peoples are gonna be shorter than others but it’s not supposed to be easy. G1s are supposed to be trophies that only the most hardcore of players can get.

worthy oxide
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People will always be butthurt that other people play a single player game in their own style. Read that again, it's a GAME. This isn't real life, it's a GAME. Envy is real but if you don't want to do it then don't. And don't complain that someone else is playing a GAME in their own way that doesn't affect you in any way. You want to hunt like real life then go and play Classic that will give you a much more realistic experience.

wispy rivet
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And it has nothing to do with envy. I don't need a g1. 😉

fallen robin
left kestrel
fallen robin
wispy rivet
# fallen robin The entire point of G1s is for them to be the most insanely rare trophies ever. ...

Aaahh nope. Already got a job. 😁 Playing a game should never feel like working.

Insane would be to me having all g1s in all variations. This should be meant for the hardcore players. But if s.o. like me has over 700 hours in the game (with many kills) and has not a single g1, something is wrong with the game design.
I e.g. killed many a red dear, but not in an industrial minmaxed way...

I would be okay, if i had to do this in order to get all variations... but for a single one, it should be way easier...

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Having to kill in an industrial optimized way to get a least one single g1 just feels... wrong design.

fallen robin
# wispy rivet Aaahh nope. Already got a job. 😁 Playing a game should never feel like working....

Getting G1s is not a requirement for playing this game. I also have a full time job, but I grind too. I have 9 G1s because I grind. Getting G1s is not something for casual players, that’s all I’m saying. You can get diamonds casually, you can get rares casually, but getting G1s without grinding is unlikely.

This is the meta the game is in, the devs have embraced it, much of the community has embraced it, and if you don’t like grinding, then don’t grind. Don’t try and tear down other people’s fun though just because you don’t find it fun. Many people enjoy grinding, myself included, and if you don’t like it, don’t do it.

wispy rivet
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I am fine with my opinion being the minority. That's democracy. Nothing has to be changed. Just saying, what I think onnthat issue

left kestrel
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Current situation: The Great One (G1) is extremely rare, and that’s why players grind.

My solution: The G1 would still be very rare, but slightly less so, and EW would block the possibility of grinding.
For example, they could reduce the number of tents on the map or add a cooldown timer for using tents.

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Even grinders would actually prefer casual hunting instead of jumping from tent to tent if they had a chance to find a G1.
So everyone would be happy. 🙂

wispy rivet
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We already grind for money... in our jobs... 🤣🤣🤣

fallen robin
# left kestrel Even grinders would actually prefer casual hunting instead of jumping from tent ...

I would absolutely not prefer that. G1s are already difficult enough as it is. I grind because it’s an efficient way of getting G1s.

By “slightly less so”, that still makes G1s incredibly rare.

I know you don’t like grinding, but we shouldn’t get rid of it simply because you don’t like it. The vast majority of the community are either grinders or have no problem with grinding, the devs have embraced grinding, both through Herd Management and otherwise, and have said it’s OK to do.

I’m not saying you’re not allowed to have an opinion, but what I am saying is that we shouldn’t get rid of something that has been a part of the game for nearly 5 years, especially since it’s been embraced by the creators of the game.

left kestrel
wispy rivet
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Some creators do grinds, right. Some don't. There are many ways to play the game. I would like to see more than then the grind way to reach single g1s. If you want to grind for them, fine. It would not harm your playstyle if there was more than that single way to reach some of them.

Or is it only the exclusivity factor to have reached sth. to brag about? 😅 (no offense, just a 😉 ). I fact i wouldn't mind if there were many ways to reach special items/trophys in other game I play, where i do have such things reached.

I don't say, give everyone a g1 right now (Oprah vibes !!!), but i like the idea of giving the players several ways to do so.

Imagine a total different type of game. Let's say... Kerbal Space Program. Wouldn't it be sad, if there was juat one single type of rocket, that you must use to get to the moon? Or is a problem for your playstyle if it would be also possible to build a complex spaceplane instead of a rocket? It would not affect your individual playstyle. 😁

fallen robin
# left kestrel And what if the chance for a G1 to spawn was 1/10 or 1/7 the chance of a diamon...

Grinders do enjoy the game, just not in the same way that other people do. Yes, people enjoy the beauty of this game, myself included, but many others simply enjoy the gunplay aspect, or the animals.

Grinders generally enjoy the gunplay, playing it more like a shooting gallery than a hunting game, which is fine.

Many people like me enjoy wandering around the map every once in a while, but also grinding to get a G1 or Two.

This game is incredibly versatile with the way you can play it, and I’m certain that grinding isn’t affecting your play style or the play style of others.

left kestrel
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Look, DD33 is my favorite YouTuber. That’s because he doesn’t do grinding. He only grinded once in his life and got a single G1 from it.

I have no idea how many thousands of hours he has recorded per so many years , but he’s never found another G1 since. So casual Hunters have no chance to get G1.

echo wadi
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Why does it have to be one or the other? There is a thread that has examples of several different alternate method of getting a G1 without grinding https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1242416386031091753

No one is saying to get rid of grinding .... Grinding can stay as is and still be the most efficient way to get a G1 .... But providing alternate or additional methods could make collecting G1's accessible to all play styles ...

wispy rivet
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