ALBERTA MAP LEAKS 🍁 🇨🇦 (previously “Gray Wolf Rework”)

[grizzled lynx]

I KNOW THE POLL HASN’T COMPLETED YET. This is only for the votes so far and to help convince you guys that the wolf is the ani Al that needs more fur variety (AND A MODEL UPDATE).

First of all, Grey Wolves range from grey, dark grey, white, black, and brown with usually white/lighter underbellies and black ear tips, shoulder patches and tail tips.

The current “rare” variants honestly REALLY annoy me because in the wild they aren’t rare whatsoever.

If they could update the rare furs to be wayyyyyyyyyyy more unique, and add these extra common furs as well, that would be AMAZING.

Examples; send yours below!

New Common \ Uncommon Fur Ideas

-White
-Lightest Grey
-Light Grey
-Grey
-Dark Grey

-Light Tan
-Tan
-Dark Tan

-Brown
-Dark Brown
-Brown and White

-Black
-Black White Chest

Rares

-Heartface (brown wolf with darker points; face, legs, tail)

-Masked (all grey with white face, like the picture of the last wolf)

-Red Brown (updated to be similar to the third-last photo)

ALSO.

The Yellowstone Wolf Reintroduction has a handful of famous wolves with unique coats that the Developers could base rares coats off of. I cant find a good link to photos, but it would be really really interesting!!!

[sleek mirage]

This is right up your alley @serene aurora, enrich us with your wolf knowledge!

[grizzled lynx]

YAYYY I LOVE WOLVES

[quasi geyser]

I love this idea

[grizzled lynx]

1. White
2. Lightest Grey
3. Light Grey
4. Grey (current in game coat with tweaks)
5. Dark Grey (current in game cost with tweaks and no longer rare)

[grizzled lynx]

1. Light Tan
2. Tan
3. Dark Tan (little darker than the photo tho)

[grizzled lynx]

1. Brown
2. Dark Brown
3. Brown and White

[quasi geyser]

One of my suggestions are make the names stand out like “maroon” or blended” if you understand me (for example)

[grizzled lynx]

1. Black (NOT MELANISTIC. Black wolves have silver undersides!)
2. Black White Chest (couldn’t find the pic I was looking for but good enough)

[grizzled lynx]

Something like that yeah! These are just examples, in game probably best to change the names.
Maybe nothing too complex or else it will sound like a rare fur.

[quasi geyser]

You do have a point, I’ll suggest more names when I think of them if that’s ok with you?

[mint pilot]

yes

[serene aurora]

Tomorrow afternoon for sure, will do

[sleek mirage]

Sounds good!

[grizzled lynx]

Bump

[grizzled lynx]

Bump

[grizzled lynx]

Bump

[sour bison]

I really hope wolves win, the packs look so bland rn

[lilac glacier]

Crossing my fingers for wolf and that they get a remodel along with it! They are in such need for some TLC. Wolves come in so many colors it really sucks how limited the coats are on them, I’d probably go out and hunt them immeditly if they got a redo with some new coats

[delicate wharf]

Bump

If the gray wolf gets a remodel, I imagine and hope that the Iberian wolf will get one too.

[quasi geyser]

Yes Iberian’s shouldn’t be forgotten

[serene aurora]

Oh don’t worry the show is coming tonight

[candid trench]

Fun fact black wolves exist because of interbreeding with dogs! And 712M (in photos) from the canyon pack is a great example of a solid black wolf turning grey with age

So you could do variations of the black fur Type but still just call them black

[serene aurora]

712M !

[serene aurora]

Alright let’s dive in

we might have all this stuff to look at today in pictures :

• Pure white
• White aka eggwhite
• Pewter white
• Light gray
• Gray
• Dark Gray
• Saddle-gray
• Light Tan
• Tan
• Dark Tan
• Caramel
• White Brown
• Light Brown
• Brown
• Dark Brown
• Jet Brown
• Orange
• Two-Tones
• Saddle-Black
• Half-Black
• Mottled
• Jet Black
• Black
• Light Black
• Blue
• Blue-White
• Black White
• Small Blaze
• Big Blaze
• Beige
• Yellow

1. Pure white/Eggwhite

Videos of (Clockwise from top left) :

• Wolf 39F (Which was light gray as an adult and white as a senior). Original Lead Female of Yellowstone Druid Peak Pack. She was illegally shot in 1998 by someone who mistook her (her weight was around 110 lbs) for a coyote somehow. He was fined only 200$, when there were still under 80 wolves inhabiting the GYE (Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem) at the time and were protected.

• Wolf 471F (White). She was born in 2003 to wolves to wolf #472F inside the Agate Creek Pack and while she did take part of multiples packs in her long life (9 years), she eventually returned to her natal pack in 2010 and served as the second-to last lead female of the pack's history. She was killed by the Mollie's Pack in 2012 shortly before whelping season. She had 7 nearly full-term pups in her body. The wolf besides her is "Big Blaze", as known by his official collar number 838M. He was born in the Druid Peak Pack in 2007 to wolves #569F & #480M. He was a founding member of the Blacktail Deer Plateau Pack in the Fall of 2008 and served twice as lead male of the Agate Creek Pack in two stints (2009) and (2011/2012). When the Agate's desintegrated, he formed the Junction Butte Pack with Agate and Mollie's Females. In this pack, he was the original lead male. He died in a conflict with another pack in 2012. The other wolf in that video is a young wolf with "mange"

The third video is of the Hayden Valley Pack (Yellowstone) and shows at first wolf #638M, the only black pup of the two litters produced by two females of this pack in 2006. The lead pair, #540F (which we see in this video and the last one) and #541M are both gray/white-colored wolves and with studied coat genetics in Yellowstone, at least, it's impossible for those gray wolves to have a black pup. The black coat is dominant.

Finally, the last video is again from the Hayden and showed wolf 540F and her daughter (the other breeding female of the pack in 2006). This daughter bred an interloper (a wolf from outside the park), which happened to be revealed in a recent study to have been the Mollie's lead male, wolf #495, a huge black wolf.

That daughter, born in 2005, possesed a gene that made her become whiter with age. Most white wolves that are known in YNP were either light gray wolves or black wolves that became white or "white". To finalize the daughter's arc, she lived to be almost 12 years old and became the mate of wolf 712M (which another user posted pictures of). She would be the lead female of the Canyon Pack from 2008 to 2016, where she lost her position. She was illegally shot in 2017.

Here's another look at some of those white wolves.

These last two are collaring operations. The wolves are sedated. One is from Denali (1405LGM)

[serene aurora]

Wolves 540F and 638M. Did you see at first the black wolf ?

This is Wolf #8756F from Glacier National Park. She was captured 5 times in her life. She was born jet black

This is the Wapiti Lake Pack. It was formed in 2014 by wolves #755M and the grand-daughter of wolf 540F, we knew her as "WWAF" (Wapiti White Alpha Female). Picture by Brad Orsted

A domestic dog barked and all of them looked at it and then started a chorus of howls

Wapiti Lake (1203F, Light Gray), WWAF, 1015M (the big boi weighed 127 lbs as a yearling)

469F

638M (black) and 540F

alright next one : pewter white

Wolf 472F. She was born Jet Black and aged like beautifully. She is the daughter of wolf #21M and the mother of wolf #832F aka the "O6 Female" aka "O-Six". She died at the age of 10 in 2010.

Pewter white fur type

Light Gray Fur Type

Geode Creek Pack

473M (left), 242F (Right) from the Mocassin Lake Pack, Montana (Picture by Jon Trapp). One is light gray fur type and the male is either gray or dark gray or saddle-gray

Nez Perce Pack (2004), with 48F in the lead (Light Gray). Rest would be gray fur type

Nez Perce Pack (48F is the light gray in front)

Some are gray, dark-gray, light brown, saddle-gray

Wolf 147M (Washakie Pack). Dark Gray/Saddle-Gray

541M - Light Gray

869M - Gray

Multiples shades of grey, black and brown

Gray-Brown (wolves from Azerbaijan)

Dark-Brown (Wolf spotted in Luxembourg in January 2021)

Leopold Pack Lead Female #209F nursing and Light Gray Male #534

[grizzled lynx]

HELLO I MIND AS WELL JUST GIVE YOU THE THREAD
THNAK YOU SO MUCH PLEASE KEEP SENDING!!
GOTTA CONVINCE THEM TO ADD THIS

[serene aurora]

Agate Creek Pack

"Spirit", the lead male of Alberta's Pipestone Pack (give this fur his name, frankly outstanding)
"Faith", the lead female of the Pipestone Pack (Blue Fur or Salt & Pepper)

Pewter white (1503F, Cascade-Panther Pack, Alberta)
Gray or Dark-Gray (1801F, Red Deer Pack, Alberta)

JNP 112F (The Grand Madame of Jasper National Park) (At ages 3 and 13) (Black and Blue Fur types)

Light Gray (bottom left) and Silver

Wolf on the Swan Lake Flats, YNP (2006) (Dark-Gray)

LAS13M (Lassen Pack, California) (Gray-Brown)

Black, Light Gray, Gray, Coffee

Those were YNP Wolf Watchers nicknames to differentiate them

Denali's Wolf #1202BF (Silver or Half-Black)

Druid Pups (2005). The gray-brown and jet black furs

Hellroaring Creek Pack (Black, Light Gray, Gray, Dark Gray)

Brown Wolf from Hungary, Giulietta and Slavc from Italy (Slavc was born in Slovenia, of course)

He died in 2022 at like 14 years

Junction Butte Pack, March 21 2019

Gray, Light Gray, Mocha, Black-Brown, Black

Mexican Wolf M1043 (that actually lived in Mexico)

Miskwaabikaang Pack (Wisconsin)

Mollie's Pack (2006) (Black, Black-Gray, Light Gray, Gray, Black-Brown)

OR-93M (Oregon Wolf who made headlines for going really south into California a couple while back)

[raw lynx]

Finally grey wolves will look like grey wolves in cotw next year, they really needed a remodel

[serene aurora]

Oregon

Quadrant Mountain Pack (2009). The beta male is in the top left. He is a beauty

Russia. BIG WOLF (joking, it's a brown bear). But orange fur type for wolves

Gray-Brown. Wayne Chicoine took his picture in Saskatchewan, Canada

Slovenia ("Luka") (Gotenica Pack, 08/27/2011) (Miha Krofel Picture)

WHO LET THE DAWG OUT ! AWOOOO (Swan Lake Pack)

WTF is that common fur in-game anyways (it's not at all common). At best, it's the dark gray

Current Version of the "gray" in game. It's a black wolf with a white chest patch

Wolf #4M, the orignal lead male of the Mollie's Pack

Smh my head

This is the future version of "gray" fur type we want (Wolf 38M, original lead male of the Druid Peak Pack)

[serene aurora]

Not that we don't want this fur type, it's simply inaccurate when it comes to saying it's "gray"

Wolf 755M. The mate of the "O6 Female"

Half-Black/Silver

She's light gray fur

Wolf 21M in 2004 (9 years old) (born jet black)

In 1995, same wolf

255F

356M (Swan Lake Pack, 2004, Dark Gray or Saddle-Gray Fur Type)

The "Half-Black" Female also known by her number 386F (given after her death)

Dark Brown/Caramel Fur Type. Wolf 470F and 642F

Wolf 587M

Wolf 587M, Wolf 712M

"Big Brown" aka 778M. The last known wolf alive born in the Druid Peak Pack (which dissolved in 2010) until his death in 2016

Aight last one, "Twin".- 992M. That's enough wolves pictures to make my statement

#1316988842196209706 message <--- Link to the start of the pictures i posted + other people posted great stuff too, just a tad before that

[hollow patrol]

this went from random wolf pictures to yellowstone 😭

[serene aurora]

not all of it is yellowstone haha

[daring salmon]

Well yeah, Yellowstone wolves are among the most well-known and most well-studied in the world

[serene aurora]

Wolf #7F (Rose Creek Pack, Yellowstone), Black pup from Druid Peak Pack, also YNP

[grizzled lynx]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Almost already at 50 in 2 days!

THE GRAY WOLF IS CURRENTLY WINNING THE POLL! #📢︴polls message

17 HOURS LEFT LETS MAKE SURE THEY WIN🫡🫡🫡

[ocean cloak]

302M, Casanova, the very first wolf I can remember seeing in the wild, way back in 2007.

We should be able to see wolves like this in game as a common fur type, not just as a melanistic.

[serene aurora]

Same !

[sour bison]

Exhibit A of why we need a wolf overhaul xD

He didn't take the 2nd shot well

[daring salmon]

LOL

[lilac glacier]

broke his goofy model even further!

[grizzled lynx]

YAYYYY THABK YOU ALL FOR 50!

[grizzled lynx]

Wolf 856M of Lamar Canyon would be a cool coat to have in the game, even for a rare.
He was brown but greyed with age- his images aren’t amazing so here is a model of his coat by a game called WolfQuest

GREY WOLF IS STILL CURRENTLY WINNING THE POLL WITH 9 HOURS LEFT

[raw lynx]

8 hours left now, I feel bad for 3000 people who voted Moose for some reason, but I voted wolf!

[grizzled lynx]

Honestly, all the animals in the game need more #1302487806311927899 message !

[nova hedge]

IVE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE #1114692251096989726 YEAHHH
I'll go ahead and forward some messages to add more info to here!!

#1114692251096989726 message
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[mossy hamlet]

I would love to see Moose have more rare fur types but Wolf needs it a ton more than Moose currently. Wolf and Bighorn sheep deserve it over all the others just because they look horrible compared to the new models EW is putting out.

[serene aurora]

Almost there !! 2 hours left !

[daring salmon]

Eh that's not entirely true but no matter. WOLF WON WOOOOP

[serene aurora]

Most of it is, except the noise part

We did it guys ! Big win 🏆

[raw lynx]

If they make a 2nd poll and Lion is in there, everyone vote

[grizzled lynx]

WOOOO WOLVES WON THE POLL

[ocean cloak]

Nah something like Black Bears need fur types more than Lions

[elfin dove]

Lion really doesn’t have many coats that could be chosen for commons really

They need an overhaul more than anything

[grizzled lynx]

60

[hollow patrol]

ravens will also follow wolves so that they can wait for the wolf to kill something so the raven can eat

[grizzled lynx]

Bump

[unique bridge]

great idea

[grizzled lynx]

Bump

[grizzled lynx]

Bump

[serene aurora]

Wolf 486F (Mollie's Pack)

[grizzled lynx]

GORGEOUS.

Erythrism should be a very rare fur type- it’s a mutation similar to albinism/melanisim/piebaldism that causes their fur to be really red!

These are two animals in the game that already have erythrism: Gold Tiger and Blonde Raccoon

[candid trench]

Blonde raccoons are a leucistic color morph, erythristic raccoons look like this.

That wolf is awesome though! Would love to see it in game 😄

[grizzled lynx]

63!

[grizzled lynx]

Bump

[grizzled lynx]

Bump

[grizzled lynx]

Bump

64

[serene aurora]

Why do people keeps bumping

Why not post a picture instead like the above ☝🏻 🙂

Gray wolf at Parc Omega, Quebec, November 2024, my picture

[narrow thicket]

Good advice - I stop following "Bump" posts

[hollow patrol]

what does bump even do

[candid trench]

Activity on any thread puts it back to the top in the cotw-feeback channel so just typing “bump” counts as activity and the thread theoretically will get more attention cause you don’t have to scroll down to see it

Possibly piebald wolves? Seems to be very rare if this photo is real (the person who posted it claims they got it of the tv2 Norwegian news channel which I unfortunately cannot verify) but an interesting possibility.

[serene aurora]

Nope

That is a hybrid with a dog

[candid trench]

Did you find the source? It’s been driving me nuts lol

Although hybrids might be an interesting rare, they have em for ducks in game after all. Plus taking a hybrid out of the population (in mammals at least) is generally seen as a good thing conservation wise.

[serene aurora]

I didn't look for it

[nova hedge]

Thats a coyote, and where piebaldism is prevalent in coyotes its also in regions where they end up breeding with dogs. So yes there's some correlation there with hybridization causing a piebald appearance.

[candid trench]

I’m more likely to believe it’s a hybrid, that would be a very heftily built coyote pup otherwise

[nova hedge]

Yes, it is a hybrid, however I am referring to it as "coyote" entirely on basis that hybridization is so common in coyotes. Just because they're hybrids that dosen't stop folks from calling em coyotes.

If it looks like a coyote, people are gonna call it coyote - they don't care what it was hybridized with unless the individual animal is a house pet (like some coydogs sometimes are.)

[candid trench]

Meant a wolf dog hybrid (apparently they can be piebald too but is generally a side effect of bad breeding) but the pups structure just seems more wolf like to me ( though I suppose it doesn’t really matter cause the source of this photo has completely eluded me so we can only speculate)

[nova hedge]

I do agree that the animal is pretty beefy and the anatomy more resembles a wolf pup than a coyote pup - but to me, in the regions where the colors are normal, the animal looks more coyote than wolf (though there can be overlap in the two species especially in young pups), but this is entirely based on coloration. Piebald is largely unheard of (if not entirely unheard of) in wild wolf populations to my knowledge, meanwhile it has been documented time and time again in coyote.

The beefier appearance could also be a direct result of coyote-dog hybridization as well.

I am not opposed to a piebald coloration in the game's Grey wolves, since it is ultimately a game at the end of the day, but the question is if real world WILD wolf populations have ever exhibited piebald in recorded history. And to my knowledge, that answer is no.

[candid trench]

I’m not saying we should have piebald wolves, I definitely didn’t make that clear so that’s on me I just think that particular photo is a wolf dog. If we had a hybrid wolf rare I would expect it to maybe have some white toes on one foot on a black coat not have a piebald. But again I did not make a clear distinction between my thoughts and that’s my bad.

[nova hedge]

That's all good, we all suck at communication sometimes, don't worry about it!! But yeah it could be wolf-dog, weird colorations happen from hybridization all the time.

[candid trench]

Or maybe do the blue coat that I think is only found in hybrids that would be a more noticeable and clear hybrid possibility

Better photo color wise for what I’m talking about, definitely wouldn’t want to see this texture of coat in game tho lol it’s too reminiscent of a malamute around the head imo

If (big if) these are added they should be as rare, or rarer than the melas and albinos, hybrids are quite rare in nature after all

[grizzled lynx]

thank you for 70!

[serene aurora]

Wolf 38M

[grizzled lynx]

CUTIEEE
I love seeing how dominance and relationships are displayed in wolf packs, it would be AWESOME to see it in the game

[hollow patrol]

something like 10m would be cool

just dont make him look like how wolfquest did🤮🤮🤮

[nova hedge]

SO TRUE they botched 10M so bad

[serene aurora]

That's a legendary wolf

He sired 8 pups in 1995. Of these 8, 5 of them went on to be parents and 4 went on to lead packs !

Wolf 16F (Chief Joseph II/Sheep Mountain Pack) (1997-2000)
Wolf 17F (Chief Joseph I Pack) (1997/1998)
Wolf 18F (Rose Creek Pack) (1999 - 2003)
Wolf 19F (Breeder in the Rose Creek pack in 1998)
Wolf 21M (Druid Pack) (1998 - 2004)

[hollow patrol]

he did die tho

[serene aurora]

yes, in 1995. Illegally shot

[grizzled lynx]

Rest in Peace , I was so upset when I found out about that even tho it happened forever ago

[grizzled lynx]

Bump at 72

[grizzled lynx]

Has anyone read The Rise of Wolf 8?

[serene aurora]

Yes. It’s very good

[grizzled lynx]

I love it so far, havent finished it tho lol been like 2 years 💔

[hollow patrol]

i was gonna buy it but i forgot to
the only yellowstone books i have are the Redemption of wolf 302, the killing of wolf number ten and the grand lady of yellowstone

[grizzled lynx]

74!

[serene aurora]

Wolf 302M (The first black wolf you see in the video) and Wolf 480M (the other black wolf you see in the video). Wolf 302M was the fourth lead male of the Druid Pack while his nephew, 480M, was the fifth. 302M was briefly the lead male in 2004 after 21M died and 253M left later that summer but he got injured and 480M took the lead. 302M would be a loyal and awesome hunter alongside 480M and contributed to the Druid Pack having almost as much success and notoriety of the Druid Pack under the reigns of lead male 21M (who led from late 1997 - june 2004) and his mates 40F (who led from late 1996 to May 2000) and 42F (who led from May 2000 to February 2004).

Both wolves 302M and 480M were born in the Leopold Pack, which resided on the Blacktail Deer Plateau of the park. 302M was born to founders wolves 2M and 7F in 2000 while 480M was born to this pair daughter's : wolf 259F and a gray male from the Nez Perce Pack (wolf 534M) in 2003. The former lived to be 9 years and was killed in October 2009 in a clash with another pack. The latter (480M) lived to be 7 years old and he died from unknown causes/malnutrition in 2010, after departing the Druid Pack after his mate, 569F, was killed by the Hoodoo Creek Pack in 2009. Since he was related to all the females that remained (and wolves avoid inbreeding), he left.

[grizzled lynx]

🐺

[grizzled lynx]

78

[serene aurora]

Wolf #40F (1995 - 2000). Wolf #40F was born in Canada in 1995 to the light gray female wolf #39F and a black male wolf. She, alongside two of her sisters (#41 and #42) and her mother (#39), were shipped to Yellowstone National Park in early 1996 to be released as part of the reintroduction of wolves in Yellowstone and Idaho of 1995 and 1996. She was part of the pack known as the Druid Peak Pack. Wolf #38M, a male from British Columbia (Canada), was paired with the 4 females and they were released. Not long after their release, wolf #40F started to push away her mother as the lead female, eventually kicking her out of the pack (which she also did with her sister #41F, in 1997/1998). She led the pack from 1996 to 2000, alongside two mates : wolf 38M (1996 - 1997) and wolf 21M (1998 - 2000). She died in May 2000 when she was killed by other wolves. Some of her offsprings are well known such as wolf 472F (the "Lady of the Yellowstone"). She is the grand-mother of Wolf #832F (aka "The 06 Female")

[grizzled lynx]

82!

[grizzled lynx]

Happy Holidays y’all :) taking a break from messaging these threads
Merry Christmas! 🎄

[serene aurora]

Today we start Wolf 832F (aka "The 06 Female") and the Lamar Canyon Pack story

Part 1 and 2 (out of 12)

Wolf 832F (aka "The 06 Female") and the Lamar Canyon Pack story : parts 3 and 4 (out of 12). Will continue this story on another day.

[serene aurora]

Wolf 832F (aka "The 06 Female") and the Lamar Canyon Pack story : parts 5 and 6 (out of 12). Will continue this story on another day.

[serene aurora]

Wolf 832F (aka "The 06 Female") and the Lamar Canyon Pack story : parts 7 and 8 (out of 12). Will continue this story on another day.

[grizzled lynx]

Thank you for all your contributions to this, Alpha Wolf!! ☺️

[serene aurora]

Yeah of course. Part 9 and 10 coming tonight (out of 12)

[serene aurora]

Wolf 832F (aka "The 06 Female") and the Lamar Canyon Pack story : parts 9 and 10 (out of 12). Will continue this story tomorrow to complete it.

[grizzled lynx]

06 is gorgeous <3

[serene aurora]

Wolf 832F (aka "The 06 Female") and the Lamar Canyon Pack story conclusion (parts 11 and 12 out of 12) ❤️

[serene aurora]

Wolf 832F. One of the best pictures of her was featured on the New York Times shortly after she passed away in December 2012.

You can find that photograph by doing a quick google search like : Wolf 832F and look in the images section.

This is the Lamar Canyon Pack core members in Early 2012. :

• Wolf #754M (Black Wolf on the left, Brother of 755M, April 2008 - November 2012)
• Wolf #755M (Black Wolf in the middle, Brother of 754M and lead male of the Lamars from 2009 to 2013... he then formed and acted as the lead male of the Wapiti Lake Pack from 2014 to 2016 and also served as the lead male of the Beartooth Pack in 2017. He was last seen in April 2017, age 9)
• Wolf #832F (Gray Wolf on the right, Daughter of 472F and 113M, Grand-Daughter of wolf 21, April 2006 - December 6 2012)

Photography from the National Park Service (NPS) and cropped to show the 3 main members of the pack at the time.

[serene aurora]

Wolf #F07 - Switzerland Wolf (Picture of Charly Gurt)

This female wolf was a very important one. She was one of the first wolves to recolonize Switzerland in the early 2010's and was the first "Matriarch" of the Swiss Wolf Population. She gave birth to about 7 litters across her long life and many of her offsprings went on to become leaders of their own pack. She died at the age of 13 in 2023.

Switzerland utilize mostly scats and genetics to study wolf presence, wolf relationships and the pedigree of the population

This non-invasive method of studying wolves is more and more utilized, especially in European Countries, with France, Germany, Italy, Switzerland and now the Netherlands being key examples amongst many others

This wolf was taken in picture in the state of Idaho, in the early's 2010.

[serene aurora]

Slough Creek Pack (Yellowstone) (When they invaded the Druid Peak Pack Territory in 2006)

[grizzled lynx]

HAPPY NEW YEAR!! 🎉
Almost at 100!!

[serene aurora]

Wolf #OR-26. May 25, 2014. Picture by the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife (ODFW).

This black male wolf weighed 100 lbs at his collaring in May 2014 and was the founding lead male of the North Emily Pack in Oregon.

[grizzled lynx]

OVER 100 NOW, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE INCLUDING MY TOP CONTRIBUTIONS AKA ALPHA WOLF!!🎉🎉🎉🎉

[serene aurora]

Wolf 870F of the Junction Butte Pack in 2013

[safe cedar]

Hello @grizzled lynx !

Thank you so much for submitting the suggestion to add new wolf fur variants into the game. Rest assured, our team will take it into consideration.

If you have any other ideas, feel free to share them here: https://support.thehunter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[serene aurora]

Awesome ! Thanks. We will look into it 😇

[grizzled lynx]

WOOHOOOO

[serene aurora]

The Blacktail Deer Plateau Pack in the Fall of 2008. The first wolf you see is wolf 302M (at age 8) and the big gray is "Big Brown" (he would be collared a few years as 778M)

[serene aurora]

Washington (WA-398M – Diamond Pack male wolf radio collared July 2009).

Picture by the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW)

[serene aurora]

The Oxbow Creek Pack (Yellowstone) pictured from a helicopter in 2008. Picture by the NPS. (They were resting)

[serene aurora]

Wolves numbers 529F (Black) and 569F (Gray) of the Druid Peak Pack in the summer of 2005. Yellowstone National Park. The black female is the littermate of the gray female and she acted as the lead female of this pack for the year 2005 and part of 2006 before disappearing. Her sister (the gray female) then acted as the lead female until her death in 2009.

[serene aurora]

The Hayden Valley Pack (Yellowstone). 2006. These wolves were led by a light gray male and a white female from 2003 to 2007. Both lead wolves were radio-collared in 2006.

[serene aurora]

The Druid Peak Pack near the turn of the century, milling about until they saw/heard the herd of elk. (Yellowstone National Park).

[elfin dove]

They look dead to me 💀

[serene aurora]

Wolf #378M. He was born in Mollie's Pack in the early 2000's and was a key member of the Slough Creek Pack from 2005 to 2008. He was one of the wolves on the larger size, weighing in at 120 lbs (54.4 kg), which is about 4 kg above Yellowstone Adult Male wolf average.

[grizzled lynx]

Bumping this thread with this art piece I made!

[abstract lily]

they look too cute imo

[grizzled lynx]

Wdym?

[abstract lily]

idk, they look really good but more on the cute side then on the scary side but maybe thats what people like

[grizzled lynx]

Lmfao it’s my art style, and the piece isn’t meant to be scary. I just wanted to bump the thread with it is all. 👍

[grizzled lynx]

Bump!

[serene aurora]

The long-time lead male of Washington's Teanaway Pack, wolf #WA-032M. He passed away a couple years back at age 12. Picture of the WDFW (Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife)

[grizzled lynx]

Isle Royal Pack who had a wolf how apparently affected an entire ecosystem!! https://www.mtu.edu/unscripted/2023/08/isle-royales-old-gray-guy-how-one-wolf-impacted-an-entire-ecosystem.html

[nova hedge]

Do you have anything on Washington wolf populations back in, I wanna say 2008 or 2009?

I was living in Tacoma and I saw an old black grey wolf, kinda resembled 755M of Yellowstone but still different.

Grey wolf at the Grizzly and Wolf Discovery Center in West Yellowstone, Montana in 2009 by Dennis Matheson

[serene aurora]

Wolf #93M, the "Old Grey Guy". Quite famous wolf !

[celest token]

I'm happy the gray wolf has won for furs, but are we going to get a remodel and what could be done to their model to make them more wolf looking/realistic?

[grizzled lynx]

EVERYTHING. Face shape, legs, paws, tail, fluffiness. The entire anatomy needs work

-# Art bymakangeni on DeviantArt
Like why is the model almost fat? The neck is too thick and the head is too small. The fur is too fluffy and has no texture whatsoever, tail is also too large. The legs just seem incredibly off and why are the toes pink? They need more form and detail in the claws and paws.

Faces are horrible ugly, just need better shape and details, agaun the fur has no texture

https://images.app.goo.gl/oYWExRux3HrhW51R9

https://images.app.goo.gl/8wsApMDKCZus4t6s5

ALSO TO BE ABLE TO SEE INTERACTIONS BETWEEN PACK MEMBERS WOULD BE AMAZING!!
Also to be able to tell who the alpha male AND female are would be amazing
I also feel it is reasonable for females to make Diamond as well just like foxes

Going back onto the topic of fur types.. black is NOT a rare coat colour. I’m really sad that right now the only black wolf is melanistic

[raw lynx]

So happy we're getting the wolf remodel this year! Been waiting since 2019

[serene aurora]

https://wdfw.wa.gov/species-habitats/at-risk/species-recovery/gray-wolf/publications

Gray Wolf Reports, Publications, and Videos

[serene aurora]

The wolf pack on this picture is the Gibbon Meadows Pack in Yellowstone. It was taken around 2006.

[grizzled lynx]

Bump

[grizzled lynx]

We’re at 150 now! Thank you!

[celest token]

Is it confirmed we're getting an actual remodel and not just added furs?

[raw lynx]

No but it only makes sense they are going to rework the existing models with the new furs coming because they need a rework and a lot of people asked for it so this is the opportunity and they're not gonna miss it

[rustic locust]

agree heavily w this

it pmo a little that the rares for gray wolf are not. even really rare irl? i think the most egregious is probably dark gray, black and "eggshell white" being rare, when it should be common - uncommon

[rustic locust]

It should be this by default, esp for an animal so insanely diverse as gray wolves

[grizzled lynx]

Exactly!
Of course when they do add more coats they should make it so that these specific ones stay rare so people don’t loose their trophies:)
it will be so cool to see, I really really hope they don’t butcher it

[serene aurora]

The pointer dog confused me soo much.

[grizzled lynx]

She was so annoying in my frickin away😭😭🫡🫡

[grizzled lynx]

Bump

[lilac glacier]

While it’s a lot to ask on top of a potential remodel, kinda hope their AI is also tweaked since wolves act so buggy

[grizzled lynx]

Yes especially in multiplayer

[grizzled lynx]

bump

[serene aurora]

Wolf #54M (an uncollared gray male) in Yellowstone in 1998 with some pups

[narrow thicket]

How were these pics taken in the past - not many camera-drones in the 90's

[serene aurora]

Helicopter

This a public domain picture from the Archives of the NPS (National Park Services) of Yellowstone National Park.

Many wolf studies conducted aerial survey to make population counts, reproduction data and collect other pertinent data on wolf and/or prey populations. That was also the way (and still is the best way imo) to conduct density counts on large mammals of North America and some nesting arctic birds like Snow Geese

You can find awesome pictures of the old wild west in the national park services archives. Old cars, old roads, old hairstyles, old behaviours like hand-feeding bears (before the bear proof trash bins) and all that jazz

[serene aurora]

The Swan Lake Pack (Yellowstone) in the mid's 2000's. They were with the Nez Perce Pack, the only all-gray colored packs of the Park in 2004 and 2005. The Cougar Creek Pack were the only all-black colored pack on the contrary. The Nez Perce Pack had up to 25 members at some point.

The K-Locus and black coloration alleles are dominant over the gray recessive coat coloration after introgression with domestic dogs over 10 000 years ago in the Northwestern Grey Wolf (Canis lupus occidentalis) subspecies.

This a Punnett's Diagram I made (a simplified version) that resume the findings of researchers in this study :

Reference : Schweizer, Rena M., Arun Durvasula, Joel Smith, Samuel H. Vohr, Daniel R. Stahler, Marco Galaverni, Olaf Thalmann et al. "Natural selection and origin of a melanistic allele in North American gray wolves." Molecular biology and evolution 35, no. 5 (2018): 1190-1209.

Homozygotes simply means that the same version of the alleles (genetic marker) was retained, while a heterozygote means that more than 1 version of the alleles was retained.

The link below will bring you on the website of the "Molecular Biology and Evolution" where you can read the study : https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/35/5/1190/4913657

[serene aurora]

Abstract

Pigmentation is often used to understand how natural selection affects genetic variation in wild populations since it can have a simple genetic basis, and can affect a variety of fitness-related traits (e.g., camouflage, thermoregulation, and [reproduction] displays). In gray wolves, the K locus, a β-defensin gene, causes black coat color via a dominantly inherited KB allele. The allele is derived from dog-wolf hybridization and is at high frequency in North American wolf populations. We designed a DNA capture array to probe the geographic origin, age, and number of introgression events of the KB allele in a panel of 331 wolves and 20 dogs. We found low diversity in KB, but not ancestral ky, wolf haplotypes consistent with a selective sweep of the black haplotype across North America. Further, North American wolf KB haplotypes are monophyletic, suggesting that a single adaptive introgression from dogs to wolves most likely occurred in the Northwest Territories or Yukon. We use a new analytical approach to date the origin of the KB allele in Yukon wolves to between 1,598 and 7,248 years ago, suggesting that introgression with early Native American dogs was the source. Using population genetic simulations, we show that the K locus is undergoing natural selection in four wolf populations. We find evidence for balancing selection, specifically in Yellowstone wolves, which could be a result of selection for enhanced immunity in response to distemper. With these data, we demonstrate how the spread of an adaptive variant may have occurred across a species’ geographic range.

[serene aurora]

This is why the Nez Perce and Swan Lake Packs, in whom the breeders had the homozygous recessive gray alleles, only had gray pups.

Their breeding pair probably had a rare wolf with the Black Homozygote alleles (BB). That means that any offspring with any breeding partner would have been black, as it's the dominant allele. You can refer to the diagram i made if this isn't clear 🙂

Picture by Dan Stahler/NPS

Thus this pairing consisted of a heterozygous black male (Bb) and a grey female (bb) as both grey and black offsprings can be seen on the picture.

Outside of Western North America, black wolves are quite rare.

[light valve]

i read a book about arctic wolves in northern territories canada andthat was cool, good book, had a family including 2 black wolves mentioned once

[serene aurora]

That's very cool !

[serene aurora]

The Leopld Pack (Yellowstone) from the air (Helicopter Survey) (March 15 2005)

[light valve]

eepy

[serene aurora]

Many shades of greys in the Hayden Valley Pack, 2006

In the video, you can hear the lead male bark-howling

[serene aurora]

Here's the Slough Creek Pack in the middle of the 2000's. They were a pack formed from members of the Druid Peak Pack and the Mollie's Pack and one the packs that showed best the diversity of coat patterns in wild wolves of Western North America.

Here's "Riley" also known as wolf 1202BF (Denali National Park, Alaska). This national park uses a system to identify wolves with :

• the first 2 numbers is the year of capture (12 = 2012)
• the last 2 numbers being the #wolf collared/captured that year (02 = 2nd wolf captured that year)
• B stands for Black (this wolf was black at birth but she greyed with age)
• F stands for Female

This coloration pattern would be cool on wolves in-game (we could called it "Silver", "Blue" or "Half-Grey" or "Half-Back").

That wolf was born in 2009 in the famous Toklat Pack and she formed the Riley Creek Pack when she about 3 years old. She passed away at the age of of almost 11 years in 2020.

This picture was taken by Rick Cline/NPS.

There is one particular known video of her fighting with a wolverine

[grizzled lynx]

Bump!

[grizzled lynx]

Bump

[lilac glacier]

I keep coming in here I just can’t stress enough you won’t be able to get me off any map with wolves if they get a full model redo with the up coming fur additions for them and if they give them even half the fur variety they deserve

I’d be hunting wolves for forever! Really hope they get an absolute smattering of furs!

[grizzled lynx]

SAME!!! I already love hunting them so so sooo much but if they got a remodel? Thag would be amazing

[lilac glacier]

Honestly I avoid hunting them right now due to how bad their models are, I do it with most animals due to out dated models, why I’m mainly on the newer maps. Once they get a remodel I’ll definitely be hunting them though and I’m really looking forward to it

I’m so glad moose didn’t win they need it so much more 🙏

[serene aurora]

Honestly not that bad. But yes, they can be improved quite a bit

Grey Wolf (Medved-Taïga)

• Level 7
• Male
• 65.60 kg
• Red-Brown
• 37 scoring gold
• Shot while he was howling
• One of my favorite moments in-game

[grizzled lynx]

Awesome trophy!!

[lilac glacier]

Ehhh they’re pretty bad, maybe not as bad as grizzlies but they’re very close behind

[serene aurora]

Dark Grey

Eggwhite Female and Dark Grey Male (in the "Bye-son" Multimount coupled with a Albino Plains)

[quasi geyser]

To the top

[crude maple]

Before they even do this they need to rework it’s model. I really don’t like the wolf models in the game because they simply just don’t look good

[quasi geyser]

yup

[serene aurora]

They most likely have to when they add furs to it

[crude maple]

@serene aurora true

[grizzled lynx]

Thank you guys for boosting this post :) I don’t have time to be in servers that much anymore so I appreciate it!

[serene aurora]

@proud harness

[proud harness]

Que

[bronze stratus]

Congratulations! 🎉

[grizzled lynx]

THANK YOU IM BEYOND EXCITED!!!

these fugly guys vs these new and improved beautiful guys... LIFE IS WORTH LIVING!!! IM SO SO OSOSOOSOSOSOOSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EXCITED TO SEE THE FUR VARIANTS!!!!

they almost look too real compared to the rest of the game models!!!!! im hunting so many of them now with this update! if you cant tell I AM EXCITED I LOVE WOLVES SO MUCH

feel free to keep discussing here about the new wolves as when the map comes out ill likely be closing this thread!

[unique bridge]

I wonder what new fur types they will have with this update

[heady walrus]

The glow up is crazy

[grizzled lynx]

i knowww they look amazing!!

[fickle basin]

I hope these wolves are used as a base to improve the others

[serene aurora]

Was worth it !!!

[grizzled lynx]

I hope all your hard work pays off when it comes to the fur variants!

[serene aurora]

🙏

[quasi geyser]

To tha tap

[bronze stratus]

What do you think about adding the very rare radio-collared Gray Wolf in COTW?

[quasi geyser]

Depends, what would be the reasoning?

[bronze stratus]

Month and cause of mortality for 42 radio-collared wolves (Canis lupus) that died in 2003-2008 in the central east slopes of Alberta, Canada.

[bronze stratus]

Marked Wildlife (radio-collared, tags, leg bands)
Source: albertaregulations.ca

[nova hedge]

Forwarding some stuff here. Can't wait for the new rares.

[lilac glacier]

And hopefully a lot more commons!

[grizzled lynx]

No fr because ONE common fur is actually crazy work. I’m mad that red brown and dark grey are even considered rare

[bronze stratus]

Yes! 🤩

[unique bridge]

from what we've seen so far, it seems like the new wolves will have at least a couple of common variations

[lilac glacier]

Perhaps we got mallard and phes for some random reason because there’s like 30+ new wolf coats, the effort when into that 🙏 this is my copium

[unique bridge]

the wolf in this shot looks slightly different than that other one, hopefully this means that there will be a few different common variations 🙏

[grizzled lynx]

They all look pretty different! I’m very excited and impressed!

GRAY WOLF REWORKED !! 🐺 ⭐

[grizzled lynx]

Bump! How many fur types do you think the wolf will have now? We currently have 1 Common, 3 Rares and 2 Very Rares (Albino and Mela)!

I’m hoping 5ish Commons and another Rare

[nova hedge]

I wanna see the commons just be colorful as hell

And maybe several mela variants!

[sleek mirage]

That shot is 👌

[sleek mirage]

I also wanna say they have a new run cycle but I could be wrong (teaser trailer iirc)

[bronze stratus]

It is possible because the running seems better. I hope to see them hunting.

[lilac glacier]

Straight up hoping for like 10+ commons but I know that’s quite a lot lol wolves can just have so many furs seems a shame to have less

[grizzled lynx]

were getting closer to the Askiy Ridge release date!

[grizzled lynx]

even closer!

[serene aurora]

Amazing

[grizzled lynx]

They look AMAZING!

Can’t believe they’re been fumbling with this so much, like accidentally released the update? Be so fr

[grizzled lynx]

ALBERTA MAP LEAKS 🍁 🇨🇦 (previously “Gray Wolf Rework”)

https://thehuntercotw.fandom.com/wiki/Alberta_Hunting_Preserve

[lilac glacier]

i saw those phes in the video and i feel like the "new" pattern is a lighting error or something rather then a rework to the rares im NGL, looks like glitched shading / lighting, i dont think its intentional

[grizzled lynx]

I can definitely see that for the first two, yes!

[grizzled lynx]

With the release of the Alberta DLC, I will be closing this thread.

Thank you so much to all those who helped us win the poll for the gray wolfs' rework and revamped fur types!

Enjoy the new map!
https://callofthewild.thehunter.com/alberta-hunting-preserve-out-now/

[grizzled lynx]

I SAW THIS OMFG FINALLY