#454 Rhino & Sundberg Shooting .45 Colt

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south salmon
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Pretty straightforward and I haven't seen this suggestion yet but I think that like the Hudzik being able to shoot a Minie ball and a patched roundball for two different class ranges the 454 Casull based guns should be able to shoot 45 LC. This is pretty common IRL and I think would help to make the 454 a lot more useful to carry as a broad class range handgun since as it stands right now the main reason to carry it over the 45-70 Jernberg is for class 9 animals as the jernberg is lighter and has a much greater effective range. Overall it would help to add to immersion and making the 454 a better/more relevant weapon to carry. Also pictured is the difference between the two, the 45 LC is shorter while the 454 Casull is longer and loaded to a higher pressure.

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Also to add to this 45 lc has two very different classes of loadings. The cowboy and low pressure loads are basically what we have in game and there are +P and +P+ loads from companies like Grizzly, HSM, and Buffalo bore than bring it to my modern pressures and gives it a performance about like a hot 44 Rem mag. This is more of a reminder if anyone looks at factory ammo and to caution that just adding a more powerful 45 Colt load to the game wouldn't be a good fix since realistically neither the 45/410 nor the Rolleston could take the +P or higher loads without damaging the firearm or harming the shooter. But the Rhino and Sundberg could since they are designed to handle those kinds of pressures. Just a reminder

drifting trellis
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That makes the two pistols completely useless

south salmon
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Fair but they already kinda are

drifting trellis
south salmon
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What use do they have outside of the Magnifico shooting 410? The 357 after its buff performs pretty similar and can harvest a class higher than the 45 Colts in game

drifting trellis
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Infact I rarely use the .410

.357 still sucks btw

south salmon
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The Rolleston in my opinion is really only there for the vibe of using a single action revolver in a "cowboy" loadout and the Magnifico's main gimick is the 410 which is borderline meh. But yeah that is one use for it but again allowing the Rhino to shoot 45 colt still wouldn't make either obsolete as the Rolleston is still vibes. But the 357 is not that sucky I use it occasionally for stuff up to whitetail and while it doesn't have the power of the 45 Colt it still works fine. Plus its base game and is free now when you start a new game

drifting trellis
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You also literally can’t shoot .454 Casull from a Colt Single Action Army unless you want to loose a hand

south salmon
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I never said you could, that is what my extra post was for because the extra high power loads for 45 Colt can't be used in either gun so there is no other way to balance them.

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But 45 Colt could be made more useful with being able to be shot out of the 454 Casull guns just like real life

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Like the sad part is to me the only real use for either 45 Colt in game is a novelty (apart from being the best handgun for class 2 animals) and I feel like being able to use 45 Colt in a different platform would be a major QOL change for players to have the option to use 45 Colt in a gun that would be able to otherwise IRL

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Also to add you could get the same class range with the 243 single shot and the 45-70 single shot and they would weigh the same and have a much better effective range than the Rhino so to me there is no real loss in this just a QOL improvement.

drifting trellis
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You should be asking for the cotw equivalent of buffalo bore then. Not whatever this jumbled mess is

south salmon
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Do you know what buffalo bore is is the question? Not trying to be rude but its an ammo munifacturer that just happens to make 45 Colt +P+ loads that literally can't be used in either 45 Colt gun already in the game

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So either they'd have to add another basically clone of the 44 Mag or just let players use the 45 Colt already in the game in the 454 handguns

drifting trellis
south salmon
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Yes I know that, so why does a QOL improvement to a videogame matter?

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It is just a suggestion my guy arguing about the semantics of something being made irrelevant doesn't help because just that its a game, I gave my suggestion, you disagreed I gave my reasons why your concerns were both valid and invalid in MY OPINION and that should have been the end of that not trying to be mean but there is no reason to be so against a simple suggestion for something that should have been done years ago when the 45 Colt was first released

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Like I get I was probably a bit brash but this wasn't something that should have gone down this path. For anyone after this reading this sorry if I did come off as rude I did not intend to be I just was trying to make a point that this could be a nice QOL improvement for those who hunt with revolvers in game.

compact cliff
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90% of the people who play this game would have no idea .454 can shoot .45 Colt to start with. The .454 is already doing classes 4-9 better than most of the rifles can too. I'm not sure how many people hunt with a handgun outside of challenges either, so even as a qol I don't know that it would be worth any time for the devs unless it was a secondary thing they could add to make a .454 rifle more appealing.

Tbh a .454 rifle would have the same kind of following the Moradi .44 does even without the option to use. 45C alongside the ammo. And I doubt they'd ever consider any weapon that could do 2-9 on its own at all

south salmon
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Which is fair but just because most people don't know that they could doesn't mean it wouldn't be something nice to see for those that do and that's all I was trying to make it out to be. But in a rifle platform it could definitely be OP so maybe I was wrong to suggest a small change that would make peoples gameplay a bit more realistic and interesting

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Like in the handgun realm in game the 243 already dominates the class 2 category so I figured it may give the revolvers a bit more function and a reason to carry other than just having it for the class 8 and 9 animals