Lever Action pack

[slim oxide]

Three lever guns to cover all out bases in new ways

First, (black and stainless) is a .45 Colt lever action. Updating the 2-5 class handgun cartridge to a mid range deer gun that can step up and put down wolves when it's needed.

Second, (tube magazine) is new to the market and making waves. The .360 Buckhammer is quickly becoming a go to choice for everything from small southern deer (roe deer sized whitetails) up to the biggest black bears. 3-7 PLEASE

Last is a powerhouse. A (box magazine) .338 lever gun. A long range heavy hitter taking full advantage polymer tipped ballistics to bring down bears and moose.

[brave briar]

We need to stop thinking alike 🤣 I also have a lever pack as well. But I'll admit these are really good picks.

[slim oxide]

BTW

.360 buckhammer is an improved straight wall cartridge adding 200yds of reach to lever actions while still offering improved performance over the .44 magnum and .30-30 cartridges

[brave briar]

I remember seeing these when I was looking for a 450BM. I'd gladly buy this pack to add the .360 & a more traditional .338 200% take my 🤑 please

[full lark]

ooo I've been hearing a lot about .360 Buckhammer lately

[slim oxide]

I think I'm gonna get one and get my .30-30 lightened up quite a bit to get working my trap line again. I got a pack of wolves and around 40 yotes to deal with. Deer in the thick timber and occasional black bears and elk would be great too. The .360 is for the open timber and meadows out here

[brave briar]

That would be ideal for sure

[slim oxide]

220 grain bullets are possible for the .360 too. Heavy Hammerdown loads last I saw

[slim oxide]

I'd also take a .357 lever gun

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[hard fjord]

.444 Marlin The Vitaminized Cowboy

[slim oxide]

Nice custom, would be glad to have one in game

[violet pond]

YES! The .360 Buckhammer is on my list IRL, and I've been asking for detachable box magazine lever guns forever! On a semi related note, I also want to see box magazine pump rifles like the Remington 760/7600.

[queen bramble]

I want a .360 so bad! Another thing that could be cool is like the classic levers in .38-40 and stuff. Also, Henry’s new long range levers are really cool

[slim oxide]

Good news folks! Rossi's new model R95 comes in .444, .30-30, and .45-70. It's a flat top receiver that can use modern optics

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[queen bramble]

Winchester 94

[slim oxide]

Staged with a Henry magazine lol

[queen bramble]

No, just accidentally left that on my bed

[slim oxide]

Ah

Anyway, I really wish the one we had in game was more closely modeled on the 94

[slim oxide]

Bump, I love this rifle too much to give up on it

[queen bramble]

Open aight 94 got it done

[brave briar]

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[slim oxide]

Nice buck, congrats!

[queen bramble]

The .30-30 in game should do what that .30-30 did, it was some 170gr Winchester, went through the shoulder tore up the lungs, came out, it dropped it, we should be able to do that ingame

[slim oxide]

Exactly, I've seen it do just as well on black bear and a couple cow elk.

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[slim oxide]

Went to pick up some powder and could help myself lol

[queen bramble]

New gun?

[slim oxide]

Yeah, Rossi R95, pretty much a clone of Marlin's 336. My 2nd 30-30

[queen bramble]

That’s a awful pretty Rossi tbh

[slim oxide]

Stock is gorgeous, the guy who sold it as nuts but I'm glad I got it

[chilly grail]

Rossi’s are a lot nicer than people give them credit for.

[queen bramble]

I’m interested in getting a Henry or a ruger made marlin, just to see

[slim oxide]

I got this one kinda cheap, gu said it was too "soft shooting" and wanted to sell it 2 days after buying it new.

Also ordered one in .44 magnum

[queen bramble]

I wanna get one in .44 or .45

Or a .444

[slim oxide]

Should have mine next week ish, I'll post it

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[hard fjord]

What do you think of the Winchester Model 1873 lever-action rifle? This gun is known as “The Gun that won the West” Cartridge: .44-40 Winchester

[vital ether]

I’d rather have something like the Savage 99 https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1257698453753172058

than a .360 Buckhammer. It’s just a bigger bullet on a .30-30 rifle.

[slim oxide]

Dunno who told you that but they're wrong, by miles.

It's an improved .35 Remington (already considered a better cartridge than the .30-30) it's a lot stronger and more effective at 200 yards than either. The Savage 99 is just a step before the BLR and can't handle as many modern cartridges.

[slim oxide]

Probably the only cartridge in history to take down more deer than the .30-30, it's a good cartridge but it doesn't quite have the reach and power that modern ammo does.

Aside from that, the 73 is a great gun but it was not the most mechanically sound thing ever and had a few issues that were solved by the 1892 model. Aside from that I love this thing

.30-30 case blown out for a .35 caliber bullet, improved .35 Rem performance

[split acorn]

Bighorn Armory Model 89 in .500S&W

[brave briar]

Personally, I think a lever 410, 360 Hammer, & 500S&W would be a great lever assortment to cover 1-9 class game. As much as I want a new 338 over the 2 we currently have I'd rather get a traditional bolt rifle for the 338.

[slim oxide]

They have one in .454 as well, much as I'd love this, it would be easier to implement because it wouldn't need a whole new kind of ammo. This one is gorgeous tho

[full lark]

oh that is a gorgeous rifle omg

[brave briar]

They should add 500 S&W. Though I see your point. In truth EW should consider different actions/platforms with existing & New calibers moving fwd. We could see this with the Community Challenges next year is my hope. With that said they should reconsider how they release weapon packs. I'm happy to see themes however they should consider adding 3 weapons that cover Class:1-9 in every pk at the very least 2-9. I'm growing tired of mid to DG dedicated pks.

[slim oxide]

Now, to be clear, I suggested. 338 for the BLR because I despise the tsurugi and want a mag fed 338.
It could easily be a .270, .30-06, .280, .300, or .358. But with a little creative license it could also be a 9.3x62mm running 4-9 with no issues

[full lark]

I would love a .454 lever action rifle, but seeing how the Moradi currently behaves (can consistently nail a Texas Heart Shot on a moose and can send a bullet down most of the length of a saltwater crocodile), I feel like this wouldn't translate well

[glad folio]

A .454 lever action in game would be absolutely hilarious. If I recall correctly the better ammo has in game stat of 100 penetration, it'd obliterate everything it touches

[full lark]

it would make the hyper-uber arrow penetration lool like a joke lol

[glad folio]

It'd make the Moradi seem weak, which would be insane given the capabilities of the Moradi (second favorite gun btw)

If it could be balanced to be more realistic to an actual .454 lever though, it'd be a great addition to the game imo

[slim oxide]

Part of why I suggested a .45. Gives a weaker cartridge a chance at a buff and doesn't outclass much else. Sad they'd all be better than the .45-70 and. 30-30

[glad folio]

45-70 and 30-30 definitely need buffed. I've heard more people upset about the in game performance of the 30-30 than any other cartridge

[slim oxide]

I'm probably the loudest, I apologize if it gets annoying, but I know it too well to let it be crappy.

BTW, Way of the Hunter just improved all their rifles across the board. All of them.

[glad folio]

You're loud, but respectful about it so I doubt anyone is bothered by it

I don't really pay attention to WoTH 😭

[hallow gorge]

This is splendid #1316459413682389102 - lever-actions are so emblematic of California hunting.

[slim oxide]

I'd play WotH more if it had more than one lever action. I sorta hate to say this but honestly Hunting Simulator 2 did .30-30 right. You can hunt almost anything with it and it'll bring down everything quick. There's no range cap, and you can mount regular scopes

[hallow gorge]

Yep as weird as it is to say. We (and many other CA hunters) use one hahaha

[glad folio]

I just don't care for WoTH's age mechanic system, not my thing. I'm also on Ps4 and can't play it anyways lol

[slim oxide]

Also, here's a small map idea involving one of these rifles lol

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[vital ether]

God we desperately need more ammo choices in each caliber

[slim oxide]

Now that is a fact EW needs to work with

[slim oxide]

Still hoping for good lever action rifles, please EW

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[chilly grail]

.50 Alaskan😳

[slim oxide]

Here's another .50 Alaskan

[stuck plume]

that is what you call a big boy gun

[mighty salmon]

Hard for me to get excited about guns in this game ... but a lever .50 might make me pull the trigger on a purchase 🤔

👆 chambered with S&W .500 Mag

[fathom canopy]

Anyone for a lever gun with the performance of a .416 Rigby

[slim oxide]

Saw a cape buffalo hunt with this thing, it charged and the guy hit it 4 times before his guide could reload his double

[fathom canopy]

Damn, so its good at sending lead down range fast to say the least

[pliant flower]

Definitely wouldn’t mind seeing this. Would be an absolute powerhouse

[mystic reef]

Savage Arms model 1895 commemorative🙏

[slim oxide]

Basically a 6 shot 475 hitting with around 4k pounds of impact from a hardened chunk of lead almost half an inch in diameter. It might be a slow reload but if you iff you empty this thing and the animal is still charging you're either a garbage shot or messing with something you shouldn't have ticked off

[pliant flower]

6 Shots of .416 should be able to drop a T. Rex. If you can’t drop a charging Cape Buffalo with those shots you are not a good shot lol

[slim oxide]

I know I'll catch som flak for saying it, but we have more than enough bolt action rifles, just because it's the most common doesn't mean it's the only one. We need more lever actions, yeah but we just need more action types in general. Options are kinda limited right now

[pliant flower]

I would like some Straight-Pull weapons as well. They’re different than Bolt Actions because rather than the “Bolt-Pull action” it’s simply a straight back kind of pull.

Many do have bolts on the side to allow for easier control, such as the Blaser R93, but they’re still different. One I really want to see is the K31 (Chambered in 7.5x55mm Swiss), pictured below. It’s comparable to .308 in power, although it is used on big game like European Bison and Moose in Europe.

[mystic reef]

My beloved Savage Arms model 1895❤️❤️❤️

[slim oxide]

I have a thread this would fit perfect in

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[slim oxide]

Isn't that a 99? An 1895 from Savage is a flat top receiver with a tubular magazine as far as I know

[ebon steppe]

what do you think of rossi shot guns?

[chilly grail]

I like the circuit judge.

[ebon steppe]

i have a rossi 410 (good gun)

[slim oxide]

A Lever action .410 would be great. It could add slugs and tss shot to along with improving the birdshot we already have. The slugs should be 2-4 tho, I wouldn't take anything bigger than a whitetail with it

[ebon steppe]

yeah

I use it as a squirrel gun

[mystic reef]

Hmm, it's the model 1895 commerative rifle

[slim oxide]

Nvm, I went stupid and thought it was supposed to be a Marlin lol

[slim oxide]

Bump, variety is the spice of life

[soft bough]

If this ever does happen, i pray the other leverguns get a buff. .30-30 and .45-70 are extremely underpowered than what they should be

[brave briar]

With .410 I'd go 1-3 from rabbit, fox, & lynx i wouldnt try deer unless its rather close with a low power slug obviously that'll vary on loads. But overall if we agree to disagree, we can both agree .410 needs buck & slugs regardless. Its nice having the .45colt/.410 but we really need a .410 shotgun. Preferably a lever but hell I wouldnt even be mad if it was a bolt .410 like the Model 58B Ranger.

speaking of .357mag/.38spec lever would also be ideal.

[slim oxide]

Yeah, that's true and it's really sad because they're amazing rifles and I love hunting with my .30-30

[soft bough]

Weird they didn't fix in with the high cal update tbh

[slim oxide]

They didn't touch the .45-70 after saying they had changed the ammo, the pistol just does better than the rifle and the rifle hasn't changed at all since it was nerved to death

[slim oxide]

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[slim oxide]

Alternate looks for the .338

[slim oxide]

If I got a couple blocks of ballistics gel and posted the pics here showing the damage of standard 170gr .30-30 ammo do you think the devs would actually notice?

[violet pond]

Been off Discord for a while and am still trying to catch up with the threads, but how do we think a .360 Buckhammer would compare to the Moradi .44? I'm thinking a 3-7 or 2-7 rating would be good.

Still campaigning for a Browning BLR style lever action, too! Make it Pronghorn ethical, but more powerful than the .243. Maybe .257 Roberts?

[slim oxide]

I could honestly take either and the. 360BH has really impressed me. I'd love to have it in game as a 3-7 or even a 4-8 as saturated as the game already is

[violet pond]

I don't see it as a Class 8 gun, but definitely a viable Black Bear round. Honestly, one of my favorite things to do is cut male bear tracks on NEM, sneak in with the Moradi, and if they spook the chase is on. It's a fun way to mimic a hound hunt and I've shot a lot of bears that way.

[slim oxide]

I don't think class 8 is a stretch anymore, I moved to Wyoming about 4 years ago now and I've been hunting elk with my .30-30, the 170gr I used for black bears and whitetail is just as effective on them. The .360 is using a heavier bullet with more powder behind it so I'd have no issue trusting it to take down a moose or something

[violet pond]

You definitely have more experience with it than I do, so I'll defer to your judgement there. That's an exciting round I've had my eyes on for a bit, just haven't been able to afford one yet.

[slim oxide]

My first year out here I had someone tell me the .30-30 was underpowered and wouldn't kill black bears. We hunted together and he changed his mind when I shot one at 160 some odd yards and it just rolled down the hill without so much as a sound (except my cursing because it was rolling toward that worst spot to recover it in the whole DA*N valley)

Double lung, which honestly is really common out to like 200 yards

[violet pond]

Yeah, the .30-30 is underpowered in this game. Just bumping its max class from 6 to 7 would make it much more viable.

[brave briar]

30-30 is easily a 3-7

[slim oxide]

They need to fix the ammo as well, I think they used underpowered ammo as a baseline for the cartridge, WotH did as well but they've at least added two new ammo types to make it more realistic

Honestly, I grew up in an area where anyone who hunted had a .30-30 for deer, they never used it for coyotes or raccoons unless they were raiding the chicken coop

[brave briar]

EW referenced ammo for cowboy shoots is my guess that have modestly low pressures.

[slim oxide]

That or gimmicky "low recoil" loads like woth

[brave briar]

I need to play WotH at somepoint its actually better than I was expecting from reviews. When I watched trailers & gameplay it looked alot like hunting sim that flopped.

[slim oxide]

It's decent but it gets kinda repetitive quickly.

[brave briar]

But I mostly want to compare WotH & CotW to see what new gen has. Though Ultimate Hunting if they deliver will likely be the next go to based on the blogs revealing its development so I'm hoping EW will seriously consider applying feat. like ammo & weapon accessories to name a few to keep its players. If EW doesn't take it more seriously it'll likely die out in 2-3yrs. But I'm looking at it from both a consumer & business view point.

in truth I'm expecting CotW has 2 more years strong b4 they need to consider a new title not just bc of content but platform advancement as well.

Even Jaxy mentioned it will eventually get to that point where decision needs to be made

[mystic reef]

COTW 2 would be fire

[slim oxide]

Cotw 2 will be competing with some extremely good games, and a lot of advancement aside in the tech side of things.

That said, there's a ton they could do to upgrade what we already have, ditching the class system and making all the weapons more realistic would go a long way to making it much more fun. Bows don't just drop animals, 12ga buckshot won't stop in a raccoons hide, and .300 win mag is not a cape buffalo round

[brave briar]

I agree knowing what they do now & our feedback as well as modern platform features being added in new titles I think EW would benefit taking the franchise up a knotch.

[mystic reef]

Hoping for an East Texas map when the day comes🙏

And much more detailed maps for the reserves

[fathom canopy]

Is a CotW 2 like a confirmed thing or what ?

[slim oxide]

No but we hope

[brave briar]

Honestly reserve wise Arctic, South America, Africa 2.0, Wyoming, Texas. My Frontier Park reserve is more aimed towards western upland & furbearers however they can easily apply it to med-large game to make up for SRP.

[slim oxide]

I'd love an srp type map that didn't feel like a shooting gallery

[brave briar]

my issue was the map design it doesn't feel right as a Colorado reserve at all

[slim oxide]

I'm thinking about trying to make a map concept for Wyoming focused on big game

[brave briar]

why not use Frontier Park and adjust the Game list? Idm

[violet pond]

I think they're starting to work on CotW 2 already, and as a combined hunting and fishing game. That's my theory why they stopped working on The Angler. They were even teasing it in the player surveys.

[brave briar]

That would be a huge improvement

[slim oxide]

They stopped work on the angler? Didn't hear that

[violet pond]

Last week.

[brave briar]

I was thinking about making a Frontier Park 2.0 ver. With med-big game my fear was it would have existing game with a few new and ppl would avoid it. Which is why I focused on a narrative theme and setting that finally adds US game were missing bc it is driving me nuts waterfowl & big game is heavily focused while upland & furbearers are being ignored.

[slim oxide]

True, but an improved SRP would be incredible

[brave briar]

I agree 200%

[brave briar]

After Nepal & New England I'd love to see SRP revived or a similar location. The Game list isn't bad except Pronghorn that idk why they moved to C:3 that makes no sense.

[slim oxide]

I don't see why they did much of it at all, so many reclasses just made everything complicated.

And they never reclassed any weapons so now it's all more confused than before

[brave briar]

You have a valid point

[brave briar]

well hopefully they approve my proposal and that will solve the caliber #'d class issue. Unless alot of the feedback is being applied to the new title. To be honest thinking about it what do you think the chances are Africa 2.0 wont be on CotW but on the new title instead?

I mean after seeing Ultimate Hunting's videos they surpass CotW by leaps n bounds on Africa alone & I believe they have more species as well?!

[slim oxide]

I think it would be a mistake to shift it to Cotw2.

People have been calling for it for years at this point and they'd be absolutely crazy to withhold it until a new title because it would upset the fans so much more. Aside from that, Africa 2.0 would be a massive cash influx that would benefit the game as well as pay the staff, they could use the money to further development and I severely doubt anyone would be upset if Africa 2.0 was reused as a base game map in cotw 2. In fact it might be a selling point if they added new animals or equipment

[brave briar]

True I was just thinking about it bc as of now the title wont do it justice on the authentic features & ai unless EW switches gears which is why they havn't yet. It would be a huge upset if they release it and its not up to par. But they are running out of time to do so unless they are waiting to see what UH does. I believe UH will release this yr or next yr. If I were EW I'd take notes where competitors are succeeding and our feedback and apply it if the engine will allow it.

but you do have a point it would work better for them if they did

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More lever action fun

[fathom canopy]

So I found out today that when .45-70 hollow points work on Cape Buffalo, they reaaaally work. But that's only when they actually take out a lung which isn't every time

[slim oxide]

Yeah, .45-70 should be amazing but it's weak af

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Seriously, a lever action pack would have been amazing but we got a 2nd pack of semi autos

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[random basalt]

Not 338. Make it 358.Mag

[slim oxide]

Honestly, I'd love a .358