Roe Buck Redux

[winter mauve]

Roe deer have been in the game as long as red deer and still haven't gotten a rework or touch up. They show their age in every map they inhabit and need some love. Same as coyotes desperately need a rework and class change but that's a different post.

Currently roe deer are one of the worst looking animals in game and if they have Tru Racs I honestly can't tell. I can't really say much more so I'll just post some pictures and say this.

PLEASE HELP THE LITTLE DEER

Forgot to add. Please post as many roe deer pictures as you can stand to see

[west hollow]

The first photo of the top post is a Siberian Roe Deer (Siberia) and the second is an European Roe Deer (UK).

[winter mauve]

I wouldn't mind a roe deer backfill for Medved. I'd rather they take inspiration from those deer than the ones we have now and Medved could use some diversity in it's deer

[shadow elm]

@winter mauve as promised

[winter mauve]

You spend a lot of time hunting Roe deer, can't say I blame you and I am a little jealous

[silent wigeon]

ooo very nice, i'm digging the collection

[shadow elm]

@silent wigeon @winter mauve thanks. I am especially Fond of the abnormal one and the on on the Brown plate

[shadow elm]

Those are awesome

[silent wigeon]

this one is really cool in my opinion, I like how it has a sort-of brow tine

[shadow elm]

Yeah thats the abnormal one @silent wigeon

[sharp stag]

Man that’s an awesome collection. I could only hope to have a collection that large. The best I have is a set of elk antlers, a handful of sheds, and a badger skull.

[shadow elm]

@sharp stag thanks. But my Favorite trophies are my 3 from Namibia

[sharp stag]

Jackal, Hartebeest, and Warthog?

[shadow elm]

Correct

Shot the jackal with my bear compoundbow

[sharp stag]

Nice, that looks like a pretty big Hartebeest bull. Kinda wish we had them in game as well.

[shadow elm]

It was. The hartebeest bull weighted 180kg/396lbs

[sharp stag]

Holy, must’ve been an old male. Beautiful Trophy,

[shadow elm]

@sharp stag yes quite old. And resilient. Put the 180gr .300wm right in the Boiler room but it stood there for about 20 Seconds Like nothing happened before it collapsed

[stone cloud]

Also

With a roe deer remodel, remodel the musk deer as well. They have basically the same model atm and it just doesn't look good.

[sharp stag]

Yes, the Musk Deer look really strange. They should have a darker fur with the white patches on the throat. They’re just showing their age, as they’re over 7 years old at this point without a remodel or touch up.

[stone cloud]

They look almost identical to female roe deer and it just bothers me so much. One of the reasons I hardly hunt Medved is because one of it's exclusive species just looks bad.

[winter mauve]

Realistically, this seems like too big an ask but. . .

I think Medved needs an update, backfilling Roe deer as another class 3 after rework and musk deer getting a full rework/pop reset done.

1. Medved has the fewest species of any map including the new small game map half it's size
2. Siberian Roe deer have much more impressive antlers than European Roe deer and a slightly larger body size, almost putting them on par with EC's hog deer
3. The only time deer are mentioned in the story is when you set foot on the reserve the first time, Aleyna says she's "hunted many deer in the region where you're standing"
4. It makes more sense ecologically to have Roe deer in an area of dense forests where there's only one species (moose) tall enough to take advantage of browse that musk deer and wild boar can't reach. Equally, moose are a rare kill for wolves and running down musk deer would use more of the pack's energy than it would replace

[winter mauve]

Bump

[remote siren]

Roe deer definitely need some love. Would like to see Siberian roe added to Medved and an update to the European roe. Here's two funky roe deer antlers I own. I wish they'd add non-typicals for roe as it's pretty common for them to have weird antler shapes

[winter mauve]

Bump

[winter mauve]

Bump again, please EW there's so much more than just BIRDS

[true vessel]

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1217764542847909888 I made this post but it seems that your post focuses a little more on the Antlers

[winter mauve]

They do need way more than a little tlc, not even sure if they have truracs yet tbh, but I was also hoping to get interest in having them get backfilled to Medved hoping EW would finally give them a total rework

[true vessel]

I don't think Roe Deer live anywhere near where Med-Ved Taiga National Park is placed I could be wrong but all of the maps I've seen for Siberian Roe Deer are all south of the area by alot

[winter mauve]

Might be true, but literally nothing else makes any sense as a backfill besides hares. Medved has the least animals in any reserve and just needs the tlc even if it's off by a little.

It's not "widgeon on vurhonga" off either so it should be less of an issue

[true vessel]

Is Med-Ved Taiga based off of the Ural Federal District or Siberian Federal District?

[winter mauve]

Not sure actually, can't remember exactly because it's been so long

[true vessel]

I think that Med-Ved Taiga National Park is based off of the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug and if I remember correctly there's a mention of Nenets in the Story of Med-Ved

Here is a map, flag and coat of arms for the federal subject

There's Arctic Fox, Mountain Hare, Red Fox, Wolverine, Sable, Eurasian Beaver, Polar Bears and that's all of the larger mammals in the region that aren't on the map

[winter mauve]

Yes, none of those are in game aside from the hare. While rabbits on an open map would be fun, it's not very interesting or a big improvement. Roe deer might not be native but they do make sense

[sharp stag]

Musk Deer also don’t live anywhere near where Medved Taiga is, yet they’re still on the map.

[true vessel]

fair enough but I still don't think Roe Deer would be a good match UNLESS we made it so that Medved Taiga is multiple subjects or regions rather than just one I think you'd just need to include one to the south called Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug

[sick cave]

Siberian Roe Deer would fit just as well as Wild Boar and Siberian Musk Deer (None of these species live live in the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug from what I could find)

[true vessel]

ah what the hell ok then

[sick cave]

All three fit the map better then Siberian Tiger and Muskox (Which seem to be rather popular but unsuitable choices for Medved Additions on Reddit)

[true vessel]

I never thought Siberian Tiger was the right choice or Muskox for that matter to me Med-Ved Taiga has always been a Northern Ural map but I could be wrong though

[sick cave]

Muskox will probably come with Polar Bear on a reserve set in either the Canadian Arctic or Greenland anyways, all the Muskox in Russia came from North America since the last population there died out in 550 BCE (Which is a bit over 2500 years ago roughly speaking)

[true vessel]

I really hope Muskox and Polar Bears come with a Arctic Canadian map because I feel like it just has more options in terms of large mammals than Greenland, which I wouldn't rule out but it just wouldn't be the same

[sick cave]

Dall's Sheep, Wolverine and Grizzly Bear are three species that would come with a reserve set in the Canadian Arctic

[true vessel]

Dall Sheep would be the main attration for me

would Stone Sheep fit anywhere or are they too far south I think there's a population in Yukon Territory that are like a mix between Dall and Stone Sheep called Fannin Sheep

[sick cave]

Yeah Fannin's are more of a Yukon Territory exclusive and Stone's Sheep have turned out to be near exclusive to Northern British Columbia (with a few in the extreme south of the Yukon Territory). Dall's Sheep live in the Yukon and Northwest Territories as far north as the Richardson Mountains, which is far enough north for me to count Dall's Sheep as a potential inclusion

[sharp stag]

I would rather see Fannin Sheep as a rare fur type than its own species. They’re only found in an incredibly small part of BC and Yukon, where Stone and Dall Sheep overlap.

[cloud sequoia]

G1?!

[cloud sequoia]

Another G1?!

[winter mauve]

Roe deer are such cool animals, they need some love!