PLEASE NO MORE BIRDS OF PREY!!!!!

[rough mesa]

I am honestly tired of people suggesting birds of prey. Here is why it wouldn't work-

1. I can guarantee in the range of birds of prey there are actual HUNTABLE birds such as grouse, ptarmigan, quails, ducks, geese, swans or pheasants

2. Birds of prey such as eagles fly THOUSANDS of meters in the air so tell me, how are you going shoot them?

3. I and many others rather hunt with birds of prey than hunt them.

4. Yes we have snowies and tigers but that doesn't mean we can have birds of prey. Those snowies and tigers were added because they were being 'problems animals'.

[severe cosmos]

I can also see the appeal of hunting tigers and snowies even if I would be against it irl. I don't understand why someone would want to hunt eagles or hawks, closest thing we could get to them could be crows.

[zealous folio]

And Crows can legally be hunted with seasons in many parts of the United States

Alongside Crows, some other “unusual” birds (in the context of gamebirds) include
• Cormorants (Europe and some parts of North America as far as I know)
• Gulls (Places like Finland and Greenland)
• Auks (Puffins & Razorbills in Iceland, Murres in Greenland, Newfoundland and Iceland)
• Parakeets (Monk Parakeets in Argentina for sure and Mountain Parakeets in Peru as far as I have been able to figure out)

But I am glad this thread has been made 🙌 💯

[severe cosmos]

Had no idea gulls were hunted anywhere. That's pretty cool

[zealous folio]

I also just remembered that in Tasmania a bird called a “muttonbird” aka the short-tailed shearwater that can be hunted

Its called muttonbirding

[severe cosmos]

Well there's another reason not to add birds of prey

We've still got a bunch of gamebirds that could be added first

[zealous folio]

Bringing this back to the top

[zealous folio]

Additional Reason why Eagles/Owls/Vultures should not be added

They were not hunted for Sport IRL

They were hunted for the following reasons
• Feathers for things like arrows and ceremonial purposes
• Body parts for “Traditional Medicine”
• Posing a Threat to Livestock (Eagles, Hawks and Owls can, most vulture species don’t unless carrion becomes rare)

Tigers have been hunted for sport (among other reasons)

[loud dome]

I would like to see a bald eagle flying over the lake in the Yukon Valley, but it would be costly to include it in Call of the Wild. Or it would be treated as a protected wildlife animal, where if shot, the hunter would receive a penalty with loss of experience points and a fine of thousands of dollars.

[zealous folio]

Oh boy, punishing the player for shooting eagles, now that is good

And thousands of in game currency, that would sting for every eagle and vulture shot

[loud dome]

I remember that once I shot an eagle in the game Trophy Hunter 2003 or Deer Hunter 2005 (I do not remember it), and I was penalized with a lost round, meaning my hunting license was revoked until the next round. I lost the saved trophy of the round.

[rough mesa]

New Zealand hunts another muttonbird called Sooty Shearwater

[proven blade]

Cormorants can be hunted in many states (mostly coastal states), as there is a yearly culling of approximately 160,000 cormorants in the United States. The most common ones to be hunted are the Neotropical and Double-Crested Cormorant, and they’d both fit well in Mississippi Acres.

[compact hare]

Hunting birds of prey would be the most boring pointless thing. A falconry dlc would be fun tho.

[nocturne nest]

I'd be fine with hunting crows as that's something I did irl a few times, they taste decent but not great.

But on the other hand absolutely frikin not. Crows are the loudest and most annoying birds I've ever had the displeasure of hearing and I mean in flocks/mobs/ murders or anything else you want to call them they will do their best to bust your ear drums and alert every animal within fifty miles of you.

Please don't bring these flying alarms into my game

[rough mesa]

Exactly

[rough mesa]

Bring this up

[zealous folio]

Bump

[rough mesa]

Bump

[rough mesa]

Bump

[loud dome]

I want them as wildlife on maps. It seems strange to have empty forests with birds of prey and no vultures in the mountains.

[rough mesa]

PLEASE NO MORE BIRDS OF PREY!!!!! (AND CROSSPLAY SUGGESTIONS!!!)

It's impossible to add cross play unfortunately, so please stop suggesting it 😭

[zealous folio]

A post about why people should stop suggesting Crossplay should be its own post

[late rapids]

I say it should be made into a sever rule at this point.

[compact hare]

That’s a bit full on

[zealous folio]

Yeah a post explaining why Crossplay will not work and therefore why people should stop suggesting it should be good enough

[rough mesa]

Ok

[long karma]

Ig we have the npc eagles on layton lake

They can be shot

[rough mesa]

But they're not really 'game' animals

PLEASE NO MORE BIRDS OF PREY!!!!!

[grave wigeon]

The concept of hunting eagles feels weird as hell

I’m pretty sure raptors are illegal to hunt in most states and provinces as well

[proven blade]

To my knowledge there is no place on earth where you can hunt eagles, hawks, falcons, vultures, or harriers (the birds we generally call raptors). The only place I can think of is Tahiti where the government of French Polynesia does occasionally remove Swamp Harriers as they’re invasive there.

[zealous folio]

bump

[tall forum]

Huntable bald eagle so we can eat just like the pilgrims did

[bright saffron]

I mean, if you want to hunt birds of prey so damn badly, just get Red Dead Online and shoot them there

[tall forum]

Or FarCry - I once made a level with just a bunch of eagles and they killed me so fast lmfao

[rough mesa]

I should make one for cross play, lol

[zealous folio]

I swear we got a good number of people asking for that and no amount of explaining why that can't happen does not dissuade them

[proven blade]

Or you tell them how it’s literally impossible for it to happen and they just say “well they could do it somehow” despite the devs saying that it’s quite literally impossible

[zealous folio]

Bumping this back up again

[harsh moss]

Because of the vulture? I think that the maker of that map didn't know this thread existed (I think ) but still it's a concept map.

[soft musk]

Eagles, owls, hawks too as ambience would be awesome tho just like the squirrels and seagulls

[idle forge]

Oh yeah i did not know this existed sorry, but it would still be something cool to see even though it is unlikley.

[rough mesa]

Seeing birds of prey in ideas pmo icl ikiab, vro. PACKGOD humble them 😂✌️🫱🥵🥀💔😈🥶💯🔥🫩

[proven blade]

The only exception to this in my opinion could be Swamp Harriers on https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1308582299033538621 as they are incredibly invasive and cause so much harm to native wildlife. Plus, they often just find places to perch that are lower to the ground.

[zealous folio]

Bump

[frigid rampart]

I don't think there are even any birds of prey ingame

[pine panther]

there are some but as decorative animals

[soft musk]

It means in the threads

Read the original message

[frigid rampart]

i didn't see that at first

[storm patrol]

bro most waterfowl are birds of prey that eat insects 💀
also many bird of prey will often land on trees to rest, and feed. they dont stay to the sky 24/7 bruh.

[rough mesa]

😂😂😂😂😂

[rough mesa]

Do you even know what birds of prey are? They're birds like falcons, eagles, owls- things you CAN'T HUNT. And it would be very hard to hunt them anyways. If you want to say/make something, make sure you actually do some research

[zealous folio]

Birds of Prey refer to 3 groups of birds
Strigiformes (Owls)
Accipitriformes (Eagles, Hawks, Vultures, Ospreys, Secretarybirds and Condors)
Falconiformes (Falcons and Caracaras, the most taxonomically distant from the other two groups)

And while these three groups are considered very seperate from one another, they have more in common with each other then they do with gamebird species like ducks, turkeys and geese

[zealous folio]

🦆 🦃 🪿 🦚 🕊️

[zealous folio]

For anyone unfamiliar with this thread here it is a post talking about why birds of prey like eagles and owls should NOT be added as huntable animals

[grizzled dove]

wouldn't the posing a threat point be an argument for their inclusion as that's literally what they did with tigers?

also it would be a cool mechanic to allow crafting of arrows with bird feathers though i'd prefer goose as thats all ive used irl

[zealous folio]

To respond to your first point: Tigers were considered a game animal (albeit one that was hunted without limit) and at the time Sundarpatan was announced Nepal was considering reopening tiger hunting (the timing was interesting but tiger hunting remains illegal in Nepal) and the one tiger in the story was posing a threat to human life and their behaviour in the game seems to combine their territorial nature and the fact they occasionally see us as prey

For your second point, that would fit any other game, the Hunter COTW is more of a "simcade" (I saw someone describe COTW using that term and it kind of fits). I have heard that goose and turkey feathers are both good for arrows

[abstract bison]

We hunt gulls and corms over here, white tailed sea eagles as well in some areas but that's more a cull sort of situation, in many cases quatas struggle to be met

Oh btw let's not forget about fulmars, hunted on Svalbard, the faroes and Iceland

[zealous folio]

Eagles, the one type of bird this thread was made about lol