Hirschfelden Redistribution and Backfill

[nocturne crater]

Hirschfelden is an amazing and my personal favorite Map but the animal distribution is in my opinion a bit odd and it lacks of some species.
So this is the way how i would fix this problem

**Redistribution **

• Red Deer: would be now only be found on the western side of the map, with an higher population in Jonsdorf.
• Wild Boar: would now only be found around the fields on the eastern side and the Western mixed forests of the map

Backfills

• Mouflon: would mostly be found in the western pine forests + some fields
• Capercaillie: would be found in the western parts of the map

Homeranges https://discordapp.com/channels/393040947006406657/1301974930002546760/1370506922452848640

**New Zonetimes **
the only times when you can hunt on hirsch effectively (excluding drink zones) are in the morning and in the evening since most animals have their feed zones at these times of day. so to make the midday and afternoon more viable i would propose to change the feed zone times of some animals to midday and afternoon.

Wild Boar Rest Time: 8:00 - 13:00
Feed Time: 17:00 - 8:00
Drink Time: 13:00 - 17:00

**Fallow Deer ** Feed Time: 9:00 - 16:00
Drink Time: 16:00 - 20:00
Rest Time: 20:00 - 9:00

Mouflon Rest Time: 7:00 - 11:00 21:00 - 4:00
Drink Time: 11:00 - 14:00
Feed Time: 4:00-7:00 14:00 - 21:00

(i will make new zone times in the future )

Side Post Down Below

***Side Things ***
Note : i expanded the post in terms of topics so it will get similar more to this one
https://discordapp.com/channels/393040947006406657/1322298739301548123 in the future (Also the Main Post would get to long so its in the comments)

Side Backfills

• Lynx: around 10 on the map, would be found mostly in the western mountain forests
  Homerange https://discordapp.com/channels/393040947006406657/1301974930002546760/1371216425011908669
• Chamois: would be found in the higher elevations of the map
  Homerange: https://discordapp.com/channels/393040947006406657/1301974930002546760/1371941277742137436
  also just to add on https://discordapp.com/channels/393040947006406657/1196505228518891632
• Euro Hare: would be mainly found on the fields and meadows in the western parts.
  Homerange: https://discordapp.com/channels/393040947006406657/1301974930002546760/1383869157413752953

Side Redistrubutions

• Euro Bison: only needs to happen if we get more backfills since you need room for those
  Homerange: https://discordapp.com/channels/393040947006406657/1301974930002546760/1410712987790086224

oh and it was totally inspired by this post https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1261793334809198633

[grim lion]

Make these for more maps PLEASE, these are such good ideas

[nocturne crater]

i would, but dont know what i should change for the other reserves. i dont really play half of the maps and the others i play dont realy have a problem.

[gusty wren]

Thank you, I will say… I’d like to see atleast some boars in the thicker forests of the western expanses.

[nocturne crater]

kinda more like that?

[ashen harbor]

Id take any backfill for the left side of the map!

[nocturne crater]

50

[balmy drum]

Mouflon on Hirschfelden sounds great

[royal harbor]

For the mouflon we can also put it on the mountain after all we can go there.

The great bustard also seems to be an interesting animal to hunt but I don't know if any country authorizes its hunting.

[primal cargo]

No country in the European Union

[royal harbor]

I know that especially because it has disappeared from my country apart from a few who come from Spain or England who stop in the territory but for a moment

[primal cargo]

In Spain, great bustards were hunted until their ban in 1980. This happens because they are migratory birds. In Spain, an important place for them.

[royal harbor]

yes, if I'm not saying something stupid, in Spain they have the largest number of these animals or at least one of the largest populations.

[royal harbor]

Too bad if it ever happens they might be able to put it in Hirshfelden (sorry if I spelled it wrong) if their population is around. Otherwise, they are still beautiful creatures.
in green: resides all year round.

[primal cargo]

This post discusses Hirschfelden Hunting Reserve. Where is Hirschfelden located? I think Hirschfelden Hunting Reserve is inspired by the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia, where European bison can be found in Germany. Great bustards are mainly found in eastern Germany. The great bustard primarily inhabits open areas with extensive grazing and cereal crops. It is a species still classified as endangered.

[royal harbor]

For me it's more Baden Württemberg because the lake to the east of the map if I remember correctly there is a story which says that it is the third largest lake in Europe apart from which is the 3rd largest lakes of Europe, Lake Constance except I have already gone there and the mountains are not that high so I think that there is also a part of Bavaria between the 2 without doubt. But the map is not in the northeast because we are where you showed in the German Plain except there are few mountains. It is for this reason that I deduce from the great culture towards Lake Constance, from the mountains which seem to be the Alps that we are towards the South between undoubtedly the East and the West. I will try to find a typography and geography of the places to be sure but 100% that it is not the northeast and the north tout court.

[nocturne crater]

i think its a mix out of germany austria and swisserland given that the codex says parts of the western mountains are like parts of the alps

[nocturne crater]

alpine ibex or chamois would fit there

[royal harbor]

The green circle represents what I think we are. Further east I would say

[primal cargo]

But this is southern part of Germany

[royal harbor]

Yes we can put lots of species here. But what would be great would have been to do like Sunderpartan. The whole map that we see and the hunting map, if we do the same thing for the other maps such as this one and Layton Lake District while adding a few animals (maximum 5-7) it would make us want more. But for the moment very good maps.

[nocturne crater]

i dont understand are saying that nordrhine is south-germany?

[royal harbor]

Anyway, I'm going to play this map today so I'm going to look at all the points of interest and others to get more clues but if we base ourselves on the geography of the map site, it can't be the north. Unless there are mountains around 2000 m high because I don't know why but they seem to be that size (the largest with the snow-covered lakes.)

[nocturne crater]

like i meant that the eastern part of hirsch is based more on germany and the western part more of the wild alpine forests of swiss and austria

[royal harbor]

No North Rhineland is located in east-central Germany bordering the border between Germany and the Netherlands The big green circle

[primal cargo]

The green circle. I don’t think Hirschfelden is in the Alps.

[royal harbor]

I went around Austria this year and I didn't find that the mountains looked like those of Austria, they are flat with certainly some with peaks but more towards the south of Austria, probably the one of Switzerland but in Switzerland it is forbidden to hunt with Bows.

Ha not really it seems to border the Alps. But undoubtedly these are the German pre-Alps

[primal cargo]

Now I think Hirschfelden is located within three states

[rain shore]

So no body else think adding deer dogs a good idea??

[royal harbor]

probably this way. But not close to France that’s for sure.

[royal harbor]

or did you get this?

[nocturne crater]

https://callofthewild.thehunter.com/celebrating-five-years-of-cotw/

[royal harbor]

for the moment the 2 photos that I am going to show you are in Bavaria. with a place called La Baume

The 2 following the one below the Black Forest supposedly and the other I did not find

Pizzo del Ramulazze at the top, from the Italian Alps and at the bottom a place from Slovenia.

The L'orle massif of the Swiss and Italian Alps. and down I don't know

and the last 2 seem to be from the Baltic Sea, yes, almost everywhere.

afterwards I would like to point out that the technology I use to see this is already on my phone and that from time to time it doesn't really work but at least it gives an idea

There are at least 3-4 photos taken because they were the same photo. Here I'm going to play the map and see what I can find as a clue

[primal cargo]

Here is a list of huntable birds in Germany that cannot be hunted in many countries within the European Union, according to the law:
• Cygnus olor – Mute Swan
• Anser albifrons – Greater white-fronted Goose
• Branta bernicla – Brant Goose
• Aythya marila – Greater Scaup
• Melanitta nigra – Common Scoter
• Melanitta fusca – Velvet Scoter
• Tetrao urogallus - Western Capercaillie
• Tetrao tetrix – Black Grouse
• Meleagris gallopavo – Introduced Wild Turkey
• Larus ridibundus – Black-headed Gull
• Larus canus – Common Gull
• Larus fuscus – Lesser Black-backed Gull
• Larus argentatus – European Herring Gull
• Larus marinus – Great Black-backed Gull
• Streptopelia decaocto – Eurasian Collared Dove
• Garrulus glandarius – Eurasian Jay
• Pica pica – Eurasian Magpie
• Corvus corone – Carrion Crow
Note: These species are recognized as game birds in Germany. Some species whose hunting being temporarily prohibited throughout the country or in some German states.

[royal harbor]

Ok Mount Bürgen is 3000 m high and is one of the mountains in the northwest.

Lake Königsberg is the 3rd largest lake in Central Europe and has a depth of 180 m (Lake Constance has a depth of 251.14 cm so more but is the 3rd largest lake in Central Europe).

Ok in Points of interest, The Würm glaciation, was written "in this part of the Alps"

So all the way south of the map towards where there is the lake, it's a part of the Alps that you climb, walk, hunt.

[primal cargo]

I would also like to include the European Golden Jackal (Canis aureus moreoticus) in Hirschfelden, just as Reeve’s Muntjac was added to Salzwiesen Park. I say this because a few specimens of this species have recently been spotted in Germany. I believe these specimens may have come from the Balkans. It seems they are protected in Germany. I would be happy to see them in Hirschfelden!

The subspecies of Golden Jackal Credit: Dr. Jose R. Castello

[royal harbor]

Yes, in France we also have species that will be naturalized species like the Fallow Deer. This means that it does not come from here but that it poses no risk to the biotope around it and came naturally.

[primal cargo]

The golden jackal is listed in Annex V of the Habitats Directive in all EU member states, which entails the obligation to maintain a “favorable conservation status” and to carry out monitoring. In Germany, evidence of the golden jackal is also recorded as part of the monitoring of large carnivores at the state level.
With regard to the protection of vulnerable species, such as ground-nesting birds, the establishment of the golden jackal could be problematic, as it further expands the already broad range of predators (foxes, mustelids, and invasive species such as raccoon dogs and raccoons). Source: DJV

The sighting points of the European golden jackal in Germany.

[royal harbor]

For the moment in France we don't know if it's problematic or not, it's going pretty well

[trail sedge]

Where did you find this?

[royal harbor]

Here

[trail sedge]

thanks

[wind maple]

I’m not versed enough on this topic but could chamois be added to hirschfelden and if so could alpine ibex be added

[nocturne crater]

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1196505228518891632

[nocturne crater]

@sweet flax could you please explain why you donwoted this ?

[sweet flax]

Because I really wouldn't like capercaillies on the map. There are not any decent mountain ranges for the mouflon. I like the animal distribution as it is now. I like animals having a wider variety of land to be on and I understand limiting some animals to different religions but I don't like it. Hirsh is my favorite map in the game next to SRP and to be honest if these changes were made I probably not play on this map nearly as much as I do now.

[nocturne crater]

Ah okay understandebel 👍

[nocturne crater]

If EW decides to add the Tundra Bean Goose and Greylag Goose to Hirsch thats the Homeranges i would give the three geese

[trail sedge]

personally I don't think we need three different goose species on Hirschfelden, we have that on Revontuli already and you basically can't go anywhere without hearing the constant honking of geese. I would maybe support adding the Greylag Geese to Hirsch, but not the Bean Goose.

[nocturne crater]

i´ve made it for an another post and since i adjusted the canada goose homerange for that i thougt it would fit here but yeah the honking of the geese are awful😂

like i kinda wanna see them on hirsch alongside a bunch of ducks but there are more importend backfills for hirsch

[nocturne crater]

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1322298739301548123

[nocturne crater]

lets see if we get some Backfills in 2025... Happy New Year 🎉

[quiet shore]

I'd love rewilded Tauros cattle

[nocturne crater]

Since it is a new species you should Check this out https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1325093617022533703

[nocturne crater]

close to 90

[nocturne crater]

2 more

[nocturne crater]

100!! Hopefuly it will Happen

[warm vigil]

👍

[warm vigil]

bump

[nocturne crater]

one of the main reason i think that reddeer should be restricted to the western half is this spot, back in the it was loaded with big heards

[warm vigil]

Screenshots taken north-west (west Jonsdorf) or?

[nocturne crater]

yeah

[warm vigil]

bump

[primal cargo]

I don’t agree. Red Stag also lives in the beech forest. The actual distribution is fine for me.

[nocturne crater]

this may be the case in reality, but the way their redistribution is handled ingame just makes it that there are more reddeer in the farmland than the in the wild areas of the map, where reddeer would prefer to live because they wouldnt be annoyed by humans. in the maps lore it is stated that rotwald (redforest) has the highest reddeer population on the map, which aso isnt true anymore.

i think the solution would be to have most of the reddeer in the western side but also some on the eastern part

[primal cargo]

For me, the distribution of red stag is well-balanced. The eastern part is not entirely farmland; only a portion of it is distributed among birch forests, beech trees, and other deciduous trees. Just my opinion.

[nocturne crater]

1 one more to 130

[nocturne crater]

i thinking about if i`m gonna let this post down, instand shifting to this post https://discordapp.com/channels/393040947006406657/1322298739301548123 by @trail sedge which already bypast the upvotes in less time + has the same "goals"

[trail sedge]

I think it's fine if you leave this post up. The more posts there are regarding this topic, the more people are able to give their thoughts on it and the more feedback EW can use to make the map better.

it's really up to you though. If you want to delete this one then that's your decision, but I really don't think there's any harm in leaving it up for now.

[nocturne crater]

i will see, maybe i´m redoing some stuff here, i am not that happy with how the post is ...

[trail sedge]

sounds good 👍

[nocturne crater]

Reddeer Homerange

Wildboar Homerange

Mouflon Homerange

Capercallie Homerange

[nocturne crater]

i thought about it, i think i am gonna expand topics of the post, kinda like a side quest with the old part of the post getting expanded to and being the mainquest

[nocturne crater]

130 🥹

[nocturne crater]

Lynx Homerange

[stone island]

I believe it to be in the alpine region, somewhere in western asutria, far southern Germany or Switzerland, in my mind it's on the shores of lake constance

[trail sedge]

we've been over this a bit before but I think it's a combination of many elements of many different parts of Germany. The mountainous western parts seem to be at least partially inspired by the Bavarian Alps, while Koenigsberg Lake on the eastern edge of the map seems to be mainly based on Lake Constance, although it also seems to take some inspiration from other bodies of water in central Europe. Its location within Germany is not known though, and I think that's on purpose.

[primal cargo]

Yes, the map is inspired by the southern part of Germany, in the German pre-Alps.

[nocturne crater]

Chamois Homerange

[stone island]

Well done

[nocturne crater]

i think the paint still looks ugly but better then it did before

[lunar shard]

Where is the capercaillie huntable in germany?

I asked doctor google, it says, the capercaillie is endangered, so it isnt huntable in germany

[nocturne crater]

nowhere, its listed under huntable birds with a full year "rest" time.

[stone island]

Nowhere, they are hunted in Austria and it is unclear if the map is set in Germany or any specific country for that matter

[lunar shard]

man wtf

[nocturne crater]

wolfs arent listed to, but you also cant hunt them in germany. Roe deer are listed and their rest time is in winter and their hunting seasoon is summer.

[lunar shard]

Yeah, but putting a animal as huntable but having a full year rest time, typical germany

[nocturne crater]

causes less confusion i would say and the list isint realy" huntable species "more like animlas that subject to the hunting law

[lunar shard]

Ach sag es einfach auf deutsch ich habe kein wort verstanden wo du gesagt hast

[nocturne crater]

"wo du gesagt hast" ist wild 😂

ich meinte das tiere dem jagdrecht unterliegen in denen ihre schon und jagdzeiten geregelt sind. das kann damit verwechselt werden das alle tiere jagdbar sind.

[lunar shard]

Ich kam aus deutschland, habe aber in der schweiz schule gemacht, und ich sag dir was, französisch ist hier 'wichtiger' als deutsch

[nocturne crater]

Je ne parle pas français

[lunar shard]

Pourquoi? Je parle en peu français toi

[nocturne crater]

i dont speak french 😭

i only now that line from a song

[lunar shard]

Ok

[nocturne crater]

do you live in the western parts switzerland ?

[lunar shard]

Nah

[nocturne crater]

to my knowledge you speak french in the western and german in the other parts

[lunar shard]

Yeah, just in the south east there are 20k who speak romansch, and western from that region the most speak italian

[nocturne crater]

tha hell is romansch 🙏

sounds like a rip off of Latin

[lunar shard]

Its actually a bit of german, a bit of french, a bit of italian, a bit of latin, a sub teacher is coming from this region and her native language is romansch

[nocturne crater]

sounds easy (it sounds horrible)

[lunar shard]

https://images.app.goo.gl/kJRMAuzxZgzxeVGx8 if you dont know the regions i mean, just look at this

[nocturne crater]

i actuly remember hearing that this language was thing😂

[lunar shard]

I actually made a fan made reserve in feedback where this region shall be

[nocturne crater]

yeah i was the second one to upvote it, i realy like it

[lunar shard]

Yeah me too, i needed to make my whole wildlife knowledge of this region in there

[primal cargo]

Western Capercaillie Hunting in Germany is temporarily closed.
Source: https://www.jagdverband.de/zahlen-fakten/tiersteckbriefe/auerhuhn-tetrao-urogallus

[stone island]

Jagdrecht ist wichtig, weil Tiere die dem Jagdrecht unterliegen auch gehegt werden müssen

[lunar shard]

i know that

[hexed fractal]

Swabia and Franconia most likely, the Height and Density is pre Alps so no Austria, Bavaria or Switzerland and the Mufflon or Ibex is very limited Population of around 1.000 which is also shifting and partially endandered due to migrating wolves from the East, East Germany had some but the repopulation efforts failed in Saxony (Erzgebirge), in Middle Germany the Population is stable but also secluded and only limited to Shoot Injured or Sick Ones, so it is even distribution. The Lake Areas we have also in in the Middle and West but mostly due to Water Reserve Dams and Not open flowing with adjacent Rivers as much. Map Height fits the Range, we have the same in Northrhine-Westfalia towards the East where the Middle Mountains merge, with the likes of Harz and the Thuringian Forest.
There's a hunting Video of northern Bavaria (between Swabia and Franconia) which has the same Tree Colour Variation but it's even more dense and doesn't have the lakes but is otherwise close to a lot of map, the Western parts with the hills isn't Steep enough for being Alps and we have some of the characteristics in NRW with the Euro Bison but also the Trees appear like that in autumn but more partially since our native trees are more manually replanted due to some requiring protection like the Giant Oak from the Beech and the Needle Trees usually being more resilient but also had storms and wildfires that made them a bit of a mess in recent years.

https://youtu.be/VNntfuR8EnY?si=eKnfIubucJSTkemw

Northern Bavaria Video as mentioned

And there's one from the Bavarian Alps where it is much steeper for Gems, so Mufflon and Ibex would choose that since they loose to wolves on even ground due to slow speed. https://youtu.be/6cdkguSZ6kU?si=6CtzoIP2rrfQ6cHX

[royal harbor]

knowing that the largest German mountain is located in the south of Germany further east than west and that it measures only 2962 m while on Hisrfelden, there is a mountain on the edge which measures 3000 m in altitude, I suppose that we are in the south of Germany, moreover there are other sites that I had already warned earlier which explained that it was a part of the Alps etc... that's why for me it is necessarily in the south of a region which is itself in the south of Germany.

[hexed fractal]

Yeah but the Western Part feels more like Blackforest than Alps so Baden-Württemberg makes sense as southern Part and their Obsession with the Name Baden in Game. They have some small remote lakes in there too but the Mufflon Population are kept in Herds which is more of a Zoo Behaviour. The Rivers could also be inspired by the Mosel Hills which are away from the winefields a bit and look also a lot like Hirschfelden in Autumn.

[royal harbor]

Having already been to these places mentioned, I can see it clearly. In itself, it is a mix of areas in the south of Germany.

[quiet shore]

Ok hear me out

Tauros cattle

[nocturne crater]

Euro Hare Homerange

[nocturne crater]

How much in wanna hunt Euro hare on hirsch with the gopi 10 Ga 🐇 🔫

[stone island]

Ik most of you already know it but If you don't and like this y'all might wanna check out https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1196543329467375636

[nocturne crater]

135 soon?

[stone island]

I hope so

[nocturne crater]

135 🎉

[nocturne crater]

140 soon?

[nocturne crater]

No upvote in nearly a month 😔

[pliant burrow]

👍 As for the zone times I think they are trying to keep them the same on all maps ... At least the drink zones seem to work out that way ....

[nocturne crater]

Yeah i noticed that

Would be better for some maps if that wouldnt be the case

[nocturne crater]

Some new backfills and Redistributions incomming

[nocturne crater]

Yayy 140 🎉

The New backfills and Redistributions will come later this week