How to improve Sundarpatan Hunting Reserve

[carmine oriole]

It's been a little while now since this reserve released and we've all gotten a chance to check it out. I think this reserve is a great addition to COTW, but there are many ways it could be better. So here's how I think this reserve should be improved!

First of all, Tahr need some work to make them more realistic. Currently their range is way too much in the low forested areas, they should mainly live in the high elevations in the Himal region. Thankfully, @thorn jetty already posted a map of what the Tahr range on Sundarpatan should look like, so I've attached that image down below.

The Blue Sheep range needs some work too in my opinion, there's too many of them way too far south in the low foothills of Pahad and sometimes as low as the tropical areas. That's unrealistic. Look up pictures of Blue Sheep IRL, they're usually in high mountain areas that are pretty open.

Also, remove the Woolly Hares from the Terai region of the map, they don't live in that type of environment.

Now on to some new species that I want to see added to the map. The first one is the Himalayan Black Bear. This species would be a perfect inclusion to the Pahad region and the lower parts of the Himal region, and would be slightly more aggressive than the American Black Bears that are in COTW currently. Another potential addition is the Himalayan Monal, a colorful species in the pheasant family that is Nepal's national bird. It could be found throughout Pahad along with some parts of the Himal region. One more potential species to include would be the Mugger Crocodile, which would be a great addition to the river in the south of the map. They could be seen sunning themselves on its banks.

The map could also use some backfilling. Backfilled species could include the Sambar Deer, Axis Deer, and Indian Boar (a regional subspecies of Wild Boar).

I will talk more about each of these new species in the thread down below along with various other improvements and additions.

[carmine oriole]

In addition to the new species that I already mentioned, I think there's great opportunities to backfill some old species to this map as well. The Sambar Deer, Axis Deer (which I think should be called "Chital" on this map, the more common name in their native range), and the Wild Boar (which could have the name "Indian Boar" with a slightly different model on this map) would all be great additions to add to this map. All of these species are common in Nepal and are also often prey for the Bengal Tiger. To make room for these species, I would decrease the population of Water Buffalo on the map (they're not a very common species in Nepal anyway) and also remove the Woolly Hares from the southern half of the map so that they can only be found in the Himal and northern Pahad regions (they don't seem to be found in Nepal's Terai region IRL anyway so it doesn't make much sense to have them there in the game).

I think Sambar Deer and the Indian Boar should mainly be found in the southeast of the map, so that they aren't taking away from the populations of Nilgai and Barasingha further west (the Sambar also looks a bit similar to the Barasingha so having them occupy different regions of the map would also help to prevent confusion between the two). Chital could be throughout the southern half of the map, in small scattered herds.

As for the classes of each of the new species, the Himalayan Black Bear would be Class 7, the Mugger Crocodile would be Class 8, the Monal would obviously be Class 1 like the grouse and pheasants on other maps, and the Indian Boar would obviously be the same as the Wild Boar (it's really just a reskin of the Wild Boar with a different name)

[carmine oriole]

One more thing, I think the Bengal Tiger model should be slightly scaled up in size, to better match the size of the Lions on Vurhonga. Luckily, someone else has already created a thread about that, so I will link it down below.
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1253193736976859156

[carmine oriole]

Here's the post that I originally got that Tahr range map from.
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1268376029227913269

[carmine oriole]

If we didn't already have the Tigers in the southern parts of Sundarpatan, it would have been really neat to have the Clouded Leopard and Sloth Bear in the Terai region. Both of these species live in tropical and subtropical regions like the Terai of Nepal, and would have been interesting animals to find in the game. However, with the presence of the Bengal Tigers in these areas already, perhaps it's not a good idea to have too many other predators (especially highly dangerous ones like the Sloth Bear) roaming in the same part of the map. It would have been cool though!

[carmine oriole]

I also forgot to mention it previously, but if the Himalayan Monal is too much of a bright and colorful bird for the devs to want to include them, the Himalayan Snowcock would be a good potential alternative. They're mostly found in the high alpine tundra of the Himalayas, so they would fit in the best in the high open areas in the northern parts of Sundarpatan's Himal region.

[solemn rose]

I definitely want to see Muggers on the riverbanks, and Himalayan Black Bear was a hugely missed opportunity. Personally, I’d like to see Bar-headed geese flocks flying over the areas that Greylags don’t. Also, I feel the Muntjac range should be extended a bit more throughout Terai. Why exclude them to a single small area?

[elder hound]

If we didn’t get Tigers and Snow Leopards I believe we would have gotten the Indian Leopard

They can live from the Terai to the northern parts of Pahad and would be just as dangerous as tigers

[solemn rose]

I genuinely wanted these guys on the map just so it'd be easier for the devs to add the African Leopard to a potential future African map, but the tigers have honestly made me feel better about not having true leopards.

[cerulean verge]

I'd also say add Indian rhinos and elephants for the hell of it

[elder hound]

I don’t mind the fact that we don’t have elephants or rhinos on Sundarpatan (I would rather elephants and rhinos be exclusive to African Reserves myself)

They would have been restricted to the Terai anyways which already has a lot of wildlife

[cerulean verge]

Good point

[solemn rose]

Quick bump

[carmine oriole]

yeah I agree. Tigers, Yaks and Water Buffalo are enough big highly dangerous animals for me. Although the Indian Rhinos and Elephants would have been really cool, it would just feel wrong to get rhinos and elephants on an Asian map before we ever get them on an African map.

[cerulean verge]

Yeah when you put it in that perspective, makes sense

[carmine oriole]

Another species that they could have included would have been the Gaur. These guys are similar to the Banteng on Emerald Coast, and there's a small population of them in southern Nepal. However, since we already have the Water Buffalo on Sundarpatan, and the Gaur would occupy similar areas of the map, there's really no room for them on Sundarpatan currently. It still would have been really cool to see them in the game though!

[cerulean verge]

Honestly I'd be fine with them removing water buffalo from Sundarpatan if gaur were their replacement

Tho also add water buffalo to Australia

[mint wedge]

Gaur have an extremely low population across their entire range.
To completely replace Water Buffalo with Gaur and have the exact same amount of Indian Gaur’s as buffalo wouldn’t make sense.

[carmine oriole]

If we're going down the rabbit hole of animals that could've been included on Sundarpatan, the Honey Badger technically could have been included. There are populations of them in southern Nepal. They probably won't be added now because we have Tigers which are a much more impressive predator, but they could have been included.

[mighty anvil]

bump

[rain spire]

It makes sense why they didnt add so many predatory animals but Nepal has a decently high density of predators so maybe in the future we could see a map with tigers, leopards, sloth bears, asiatic black bears and more

[carmine oriole]

bumping this back up again because it's been a little while

[dawn python]

You should check out my post on two new cars that could be added to sundarpartan https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1321273312223166464

[carmine oriole]

I already saw it, but I appreciate you sharing that idea here as well. It's always good to bring some more awareness to the fact that Sundarpatan could benefit from backfilling and more new species.

[jagged cairn]

IMO Sundarpatan could have easily been the biggest reserve in terms of number of species.

[leaden palm]

YES YES YES YES YES YES

We need this SO BAD

[dawn python]

Most def bro I like this concept you put together with more species being added to sundarpartan

[stable mist]

Plsssss

[jagged cairn]

Gaur could inhabit the western lowlands?

[carmine oriole]

possibly

[cerulean verge]

I'd adore gaur

[cerulean verge]

Also, if we ever do get rhinos and elephants added to the game in an African reserve, I think having their Asian counterparts here would go rly hard

[carmine oriole]

I wouldn't be against adding Indian Rhinos or Asian Elephants to Sundarpatan, I just want to see African Elephants and Rhinos first.

[cerulean verge]

Oh for sure

[carmine oriole]

I would definitely support adding Indian Rhino and Asian Elephant to Sundarpatan if we get their African counterparts first. Those were really cool animals to come across in Far Cry 4 and I think it would be really neat to have them in another open world game like that.

[jagged cairn]

Oh man. Gaur, Asian Elephant, and Indian Rhino along with Bengal Tiger and water Buffalo would make hunting the lowlands straight out of Dangerous Hunts 😂

[elder hound]

While I do agree that rhinos and gaur would be cool additions, Sundarpatan would have to be double the size if it was to include more species, which isn't a bad thing (I do disagree with the elephants, but mostly because I would like elephants to be exclusive to future African Reserves)

[mint wedge]

Their asiatic counterparts don’t really interest me except MAYBE Asian Elephants. Indian Rhinoceros lacks everything that makes the African species unique and interesting.

[mint wedge]

Sundarpatan could very well double in size (particularly the Terai) as it’s quite well rendered.
I feel if any part of Sundarpatan needs to be bigger it’s definitely the terai.

[elder hound]

Now I don't know if it has been mentioned yet but some more mountain dwelling big game would be cool (If Sundarpatan was double the size). Some potential species include

• Himalayan Serow: They would be found in the Himal Region and the Northern half of Pahad
• Himalayan Goral: Could be found in Pahad and the southern parts of the Himal
• Tibetan Argali: They could be a rare Class 6 animal, not as rare as tigers but rare enough to not outcompete tahr and bharal. I think three small herds of 4 to 6 females and 1 or 2 rams plus 4 more lone rams would be a good amount
• Himalayan Black Bear: Himal and Pahad, very dangerous and just as short tempered as a sloth bear

[carmine oriole]

I did request Himalayan Black Bear as a new species in my original post here, but yeah they would also be a great choice if the map would get an expansion

tbh I was a bit disappointed that the Himal region didn't have more super high peaks above the permanent snow line, since that's kind of what the Himalayas are most known for. The mountain forests in the northern parts of the map are beautiful, but it still definitely feels like there's something missing.

obviously I know that the super high peaks of the Himalayas wouldn't realistically be that close to the Pahad and Terai regions of Nepal, but the game already condenses a lot of Nepal's geography into one (relatively) small area compared to the total area of Nepal, so it's not a super far stretch.

[carmine oriole]

just bumping this back up again

also we're now over 80 upvotes. Let's try to get to 100!

[carmine oriole]

bumping this back up again

[carmine oriole]

let's get this thread to 100 upvotes!

[fringe furnace]

Bump

[carmine oriole]

bump

[proud minnow]

You're welcome for the 100

[carmine oriole]

I appreciate it!

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There are Himalayan snowcocks in Nevada (USA).

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A Himalayan musk deer (Moschus leucogaster) at Sagarmatha National Park in Nepal. Image courtesy of Pratap Gurung.

[carmine oriole]

yeah I knew that, I was also thinking that maybe if we eventually get a Nevada map with them, we could also get them on Sundarpatan as a backfill

[cerulean verge]

Gaur would be rad af

[tidal furnace]

I wouldn't want more things hunting me down

[carmine oriole]

yeah they were a bit of a missed opportunity imo

[near badger]

I can kinda see why they didn’t put Gaur on the map as there are only about 500 in the whole of the country (and being herd animals there would have to be way more than a small population such as the tigers), but I would really want them there.

[elder hound]

We got Blackbuck on the map despite Nepal having less then 500 Blackbucks that are split between a Conservation Area set aside specifically for the antelope and a National Park

[near badger]

True, and that reminds me about another rare species in Nepal that I’d love to see: the Kiang. It would be a bit strange seeing as their main habitat isn’t found on the map, but having 35 - 50 around Pahad and parts of Himal would be awesome.

[tidal furnace]

Wouldn't rare species be harder to find like just have less spawns

[carmine oriole]

That is true, but there's also a very small population of Wild Yaks in Nepal, so I don't think small irl numbers really make much of a difference here.

[untold basin]

Sundarpatan does not have the biome for this species and so I reject it. They live in hills (steppe), not peaks like Sundarpatan. This species and the Tibetan Argali do not fit on this map.

[near badger]

So do Tibetan Foxes, yet they’re on the map. Their habitat is high-altitude grasslands and steppes on the Tibetan Plateau, but on Sundarpatan they’re found on mountain peaks and in thick forests.

[carmine oriole]

I guess I wouldn't be against including the Kiang on the map, I just think there's other species that would be a better fit for Sundarpatan, like the Himalayan Black Bear and Mugger Crocodile.

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Distribution of Kiang

[near badger]

It may appear that there’s no Kiang in Nepal, but there are around 100 individuals in the Mustang region of the country.

[untold basin]

You have the reason. Sundarpatan does not have the biomes for the Tibetan Fox. It is a wrong species. It is a rare species in Nepal.

[tardy parrot]

Yeah I mean they said they even thought about saiga, we really need a Mongolia or a West-Central Asia map

[untold basin]

Because the Mustang (Nepal) biome where the kiang lives is distinct from Sundarpatan. In Mustang also lives Tibetan Fox.

[tardy parrot]

There more like a steppe species ay?

[near badger]

Wild Yaks are also only in the Mutant region. It seems like a lot of species on Sundar are only found in the Mustang region, or in another very small region (ex: Barasingha, only found in the Shuklaphanta and Bardiya National Parks), yet they’re still on the map.

[tardy parrot]

Which is weird cause they had a lot of species from Nepal that are in Nepal to choose from

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Distribution Map of Wild Yak. His habitats are alpine meadow, alpine steppe, and desert steppe.

[near badger]

Most of this map shows China, and therefore shouldn’t little bit outside of there is the Mustang Region.

[untold basin]

Because it is the principal distribution.

[elder hound]

So basically the Sambar, Axis & Hog Deer would be fine inclusions

They live across Southern Nepal and Sambar deer can be found at some rather high elevations

[near badger]

Yes. All 3 species would be better fits than some (namely Blackbuck). Also, now that I’ve looked at it, the Bengal Fox would’ve been a better fit than the Tibetan Fox, but I do love the little guys so I’m not complaining.

[elder hound]

Indian Golden Jackals would have also worked as a class 2 canine

To be fair, the Tibetan Fox does have a distinctive face

[tardy parrot]

Especially hog, they need love and more stuff exclusive to the pahad region and birds

[carmine oriole]

Sambar Deer would be a great addition to the eastern parts of Pahad and Terai. They could decrease the reserve's population of Water Buffalo to make room for them.

Axis Deer would be great too.

[cerulean verge]

Yeah imagine having all the herds mingling in the open

[carmine oriole]

oh yeah for sure, it would be so cool to see the biodiversity of Nepal more on Sundarpatan

[tardy parrot]

I think you could also just make little pockets of animals like only having axis deer along the river part of where black buck are rn so they are only at the lakes. And having a part of the barasinghas range taken away for sambar or hog deer.

[carmine oriole]

I think the existing animal ranges are fine (other than the Blue Sheep and Himalayan Tahr). But yeah the populations of certain species would probably need to be decreased to make room for other animals.

[tardy parrot]

That's what I meant, put yak out of the mountains into the himal valleys and put tahr and blue sheep up there

The range of many species like the muntjac, tiger, snow leopard and blackbuck are perfect rn. If they add more ranges of buffalo, blackbuck, blue sheep, barasingha or Nilgai could be reduced by up to 50 percent

[carmine oriole]

I think if the Blue Sheep and Himalayan Tahr ranges got moved up more into the Himal region, then we'd definitely have plenty of room for the Himalayan Black Bear in Pahad.

[tardy parrot]

Yes, possibly goral, wild boar or musk deer as well. Gaur would be an option in part of the water buffalo range

[carmine oriole]

bump

[tardy parrot]

Bump!

[tardy parrot]

A full list of big game species I think Nepal could benefit from (there's some more like alpine musk deer but they are all pretty rare or just some tiny antelope you can barely get pictures of)

-gaur (could replace water buffalo in the lower terai region)
-himalayan goral (pahad)
-himalayan serow (pahad)
-tibetan argali (himal)
-axis deer (terai)
-hog deer terai
-sambar deer (terai, pahad)
-eurasian lynx (not really needed but would be found in lower elevation himal)
-indian leopard (terai, pahad)
-himalayan Wolf (a cool wolf of himal)
-dhole (not super neccesarry but pahad and terai)
-bengal fox (terai)
-sloth bear (terai)
-asiatic black bear (terai, pahad)
-himalayan brown bear (himal)
-indian one horned rhinoceros (terai)

I think we need some love for pahad, goral, black bear, leopard, sambar would all be great

Gaur, sloth bear, axis deer, hog deer and Indian rhino (unrealistic tho 😦) could work well in terai

I think himal doesn't miss much, some tibetan argali would be fun so would Himalayan wolf and brown bear

I think the main thing the map is missing is birds tho

[mint wedge]

The Pahad tends to feel very empty

[tardy parrot]

Yeah, put black bear, goral and serow there, maybe some birds.

In my experience it's just kind of a meeting point for animals from himal and terai rather then its own, it had no "endemic" animals

[carmine oriole]

yeah I agree that Pahad needs some unique animals of its own. Even just the Himalayan Black Bear (the subspecies of Asiatic Black bear found in Nepal) would be a great addition to Pahad and would fit in perfectly in those flowering rhododendron forests.

[carmine oriole]

all of those species would have been great additions

[tardy parrot]

Yes

[tardy parrot]

The satyr tragopan and hill partridge would be great species for the pahad region

Besides peafowl the terai region could also house red jungefowl and black francolin.

Himalayan monal and Himalayan snowcock would work great in himal. Tibetan snowcock and snow partridge would also work well

[tardy parrot]

Tibetan argali

[tardy parrot]

The gaur is really beautiful and should be found in terai, replacing the southern buffalo herds

[tardy parrot]

Absolute unit

[tardy parrot]

The Himalayan black bear which could be introduced in pahad

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Photographs of wild yaks from Upper Humla. (a) The single wild yak seen in Upper Humla in July 2015. Its greyish‐white muzzle, handle‐bar horns, hump raised above the shoulder, long shaggy black‐dark brown coat and thick tail are characteristic of wild yaks. Note the dung pile between its hind legs. Photo: Naresh Kusi. (b) A wild yak sighted with a domestic yak in Upper Humla in September 2020. The domestic yak lacks a greyish‐white muzzle, has a nonuniform coat (with white patches on its forehead and shoulder), thinner and smaller horns, is smaller in size, and carries an inconspicuous hump. Photo: Bishnu Bahadur Lama

Add some Feral or Domestic Yak in Sundarpatan along with fewer Wild Yaks.

[tardy parrot]

You can REALLY see the size difference between domestic and wild yaks

[untold basin]

Yeah!

[stable mist]

To the top

[carmine oriole]

bumping this back up

[meager gust]

Basically a better version of my post lmao

[meager gust]

Tahr are found in some lowland regions such as the region just above Corbett and Sikkim so they could be in like high Pahad. We could also get Hog Deer alongside Chital (Axis) and Sambar. Leopards could be from Terai to upper Pahad. Maybe also increase the Tiger range to like Mid Pahad IG, because they are found quite high in the Himalayas! Maybe we could get Rhinos and Elephants. Both of them do climb up quite high, Elephants being found even around 4,000 feet above sea level above Corbett. We could also have like the Black Naped Hare in Terai and Mid Pahad and Wolly Hare from Mid Pahad to Himal. Plus Leopards would have the same behaviour as Snow Leopards because they're more shy. Additionally (for the sake of many of us who have got PTSD from Tigers in Sundarpatan) we could have a setting to turn off stalking and just the head on charge. Also, I kinda disagree with Gaur because right now there's no tiger reserve in Nepal with both of them! We could also use Serows and Gorals.

[carmine oriole]

okay, I can make a new potential Tahr range map at some point then if that's the case

[elder hound]

I agree with most except for the idea of a setting that makes dangerous animals less dangerous, how would that work on a multiplayer server anyways. It would be one thing to have a setting that turns off the waterfowl noise since thats only audio but a setting that affects animal behaviour is another thing all together

[meager gust]

Maybe the server owner could toggle it on or off?

[carmine oriole]

I haven't forgotten about this btw, I've just been a bit too busy to work on it lately, but I will try to get to it after I get back from vacation next week

[carmine oriole]

Potential new range for Himalayan Tahr on Sundarpatan

Potential new range for both Blue Sheep and Woolly Hare on Sundarpatan

those are the only animals that really need a range rework in my opinion, the rest are mostly fine imo

[elder hound]

The Northern Red Muntjac could be a species that inhabits Pahad, this is based on the presence of muntjac on the Dhorpatan Hunting Reserve, but I do like the fact that your proposed revision of the Woolly Hares range removes them from Terai entirely, it never made sense for a high-altitude hare species to be living in the subtropical lowlands

[carmine oriole]

yeah I see what you mean regarding the muntjac, their range on the map is a bit small currently. That being said, I don't think a range redistribution is really all that necessary. It would be nice to hunt Muntjac in the southern parts of Pahad, but there's also plenty of other animals that could be added to Sundarpatan in order to populate that part of the map more.

but yeah, like you said, it really doesn't make sense to have Woolly Hares populating the entire map

[meager gust]

Son did you take into consideration what I said?

[carmine oriole]

yes I did, but ultimately I decided that the Tahr should remain exclusive to the northern half of the map. Keeping them limited to that part of the map helps to make that area feel more unique and different. Plus, with their big fluffy fur coats, I think they'd feel a bit out of place in the areas further south, which are a much warmer climate.

[meager gust]

Bad girl

[carmine oriole]

lol

[meager gust]

Compare the Sundarpatan tiger with these tigers (from corbett, credit to all the photos to myself lol). Don't the tiger's look a bit wonky in the game?

[carmine oriole]

I think the ones in the game are just a bit too small. They could use a bit of a size increase. Maybe they should be more muscular too? Other than that I think they look pretty good.

[meager gust]

The models for a 100 kg female and a 325 kg male are the same

There should be more models

[carmine oriole]

bumping this back up

[dense gazelle]

Thats literally how all the predators in game already are none of them look different besides male and female differences

[meager gust]

Tigers need more male female difference

[dense gazelle]

All predators do tigers included

[carmine oriole]

bumping this back up

[untold basin]

Here I share the link to a hunting video from Nepal, in the area that inspired the creation of Sundarpatan. The video shows the hunt of bharal by two renowned international Russian hunters: Alexey Kim and Alexander Egorov. At minute 26:32 a Himalayan goral is spotted, and at 30:00, a Himalayan serow.
Note: this video is part of a series of three on hunting in Nepal.
Video Link: https://youtu.be/zl4DPDxIrlM?si=iozofrw8Y6RtuR-V

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Himalayan Goral (Naemorhedus goral)
Photo Credit: PROOXOTA

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Himalayan Serow (Capricornis thar)
Photo Credit: PROOXOTA

[torn olive]

That’s just someones rooster gone missing

[tardy parrot]

Lol

[carmine oriole]

bumping this back up again

[meager gust]

as a guy who goes to the terai belt, I can confirm

[torn olive]

you live close there or?

[late sage]

I feel like a Sloth Bear would be a good choice if they don’t do the Himalayan Black Bear. Sloth Bears are highly aggressive due to living near Tigers. If they ever decide to add the Sloth Bear to the game, they should make it to where they never flee, they always go aggressive and they could make the Bengal Tiger flee whenever they are nearby. But the only downside is of if they put the Sloth Bear is it’s more native to the region of India, while the Himalayan Black Bear is native well to the Himalayan region. If they truly wanted to, they could make the Black Bear in the Northern Region of the map add a second animal that will go aggressive in the north. Then the Sloth Bear to the south were the Bengal Tiger roams.

[meager gust]

Not close but still India. Fan of corbett

[torn olive]

Oh ok who or what is corbett?

[meager gust]

corbett national park is a reserved forest from the terai belt.

Actually the devs could've done 3 different parks in 3 different regions of Nepal, like have 1 in Terai, 1 in Pahad and 1 in Himal. Doing sundarpatan and saying it had all 3 "biomes" of Nepal is like putting in the wild west, everglades, chihuahuan desert and regions east of the mississippi into one map and saying that it had all biomes of U.S.A. Brother, Terai, Pahad and Himal are regions not biomes, they're the regions of Nepal. Very dissapointed with the devs

[meager gust]

Tiger slams sloth bear and himalayan black bear. There's no such thing as more native or less native, if it's found there it's found there.

[torn olive]

Yeah they don’t know enough, they need to contact professionals when doing the maps fr

[meager gust]

exactlyy

[late sage]

They fight, however researching it. Nepal is home to three species of bears: the Asiatic Black Bear, Sloth Bear and Himalayan Black Bear

[meager gust]

2 species, Himalayan Black bear is a subspecies of asiatic Black bear

[late sage]

That one is true, however if we can’t put the Himalayan Black Bear in but the Asiatic Black Bear. The Himalayans makes sure they have bears.
The Sloth Bear
Asiatic Black Bear (Himalayan Black Bear)
The Himalayan Brown Bear
And the Sun Bear

But the Himalayan Brown Bear population is around 500-700. Or
“A bear population of about 150–200 individuals can be found in the northern region of Pakistan in an area of about 150,000 km2 (58,000 sq mi)”

It says Pakistan but they are native to the Himalayans, the article was pointing out how in Pakistan they are endangered due to hunting, reducing their natural habitat, ect