#Authentic Reclass C:1-9 to Game Categories

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***"Birds Only" ***
C:1
•Waterfowl/Upland Birds/Turkeys

Varmints/Small Game
C:2 (1-30lbs)
•Hares/Rabbits •Grey Fox 9lbsTibetan Fox 12lbs •Red Fox 15lbs •Side Stripped Jackel 25lbs •Racoon Dog 22lbs •Bobcat 25lbs •Racoon 26lbs

Medium Small Game
C:3 (30-50lbs)
•Musk Deer-Muntjac-Coyote-Lynx 40lbs

Medium Game (4-5)
C:4 (50-150lbs)
•Roe Deer 60lbs •Tahr-Axis Deer- 70lbs •Hog Deer-Peccary-Springbok-Chamois-Blackbuck-Iberian Wolf 80lbs •Sika Deer 90lbs •Grey Wolf 110lbs •Pronghorn-Snow Leopard 100lbs •Ibex-Blue Sheep-Mouflon-Feral Goat-Whitetail Deer-Mtn Lion/Puma 120lbs
•Kangaroo-Fallow 130lbs •Blacktail 150lbs

C:5 (150-300lbs)
Bighorn Sheep 150lbs •Mule Deer 180lbs •Boar-Pig-Hog-Warthog 220lbs •Mtn Goat 280lbs

"Large Game" (6-7)
C:6 (300-500lbs)
•Javan Rusa 330lbs •Reindeer/Caribou 350lbs •Red Deer 400lbs •Gemsbok-Blue Wildebeest 460lbs

C:7 (500-1100lbs)
•Barasingha-Nilgai 500lbs •Black Bear 600lbs •Sambar 700lbs •Elk 900lbs •Alligator 1000lbs

"Dangerous Game" (8-9)
C:8 (1100-1500lbs)
•Grizzly 900lbs •Eurasian Brown Bear 1000lbs •Moose 1500lbs

C:9 (1500-2800lbs)
•Lion 500lbs •Tiger 680lbs •Banteng 1800lbs •Cape Buffalo 1900lbs •Bison 2200lbs
•Salt Croc 2400lbs •Water Buffalo-Yak 2600lbs

"Safari/XL Game"
C:10 (2800+lb)
•TBD

pale crow
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I'd be happy to see this in game

green scaffold
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Imo if snow leopards, sika deer and blue sheep are class 4, then so should axis deer as they all are 75kg max weight. And coyotes should be class 3 and get resized

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Also mouflon are smaller then pronghorn and shouldn't even be consider for class 5. Also you forgot pronghorn and those should be class 4. Other then that great list.

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Oh and warthogs need a resize and stay class 4 or even 5. Somehow they weigh 150kg xD

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split field
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This would be perfect

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split field
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Ok

pale crow
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So, we wanna reconsider class 1 gray fox?

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pale crow
# regal estuary Coyotes defn. need resized and put to class 3 & I'm still looking for a T: 1 pre...

Gray foxes are the closest to tier 1 in game, they are small and not particularly tough. Speaking as a trapper, their hides are paper thin and it's difficult to work with it without tearing it. Other than grays, I'd say desert foxes would be closest to class one specs if they were in game. BTW .223 will shred the hide unless you use fmj to pass through without mushrooming, otherwise stick with 22lr or a .17 caliber

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pale crow
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fishers are protected & idk about a pine martan never heard of them before

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split field
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Only thing I'd change is making the 375 260 gr bullet a 6-8 as I know it's used on animals of that size

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split field
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Well if you did that much research, I'm gonna go by your word

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Also, these things are way bigger than I thought, like WTH it's super weasel

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pale crow
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In Alaska, but they have seasons in Canada and across their northern range in the US states apparently. They are apparently common in British Columbia. Wild, NEM could have had these things

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pale crow
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Still, fisher would be awesome in game somewhere, especially a Canadian map.

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Agree with ya there, like I said I was always under the impression they were protected due to over hunting & trapping. But, I've been wrong before and not ashamed to admit it when I am 😅

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I'd heard of trapping them before but I didn't put much thougt into them until a few minutes ago. Knew nothing apparently

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I know it's been said before, but tree mechanics for squirrels would be awesome, and pine martens could function like that just as a larger target

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I still overkill trash pandas in-game I hate them with a passion. Its funny Jaxy was also talking about them as well in todays stream. All I could do is shake my head and agree while laughing about it.

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More small predators would be sweet imo. Hunting fishers and badgers would be awesome, mean suckers

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Animal & Ammo Re-Class

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Bump

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Animals & Ammo Balanced & Re-Classed

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Animals Re-Classed & Balanced

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I think the classing thing is kinda dumb, because hunt whitetail with a .300 Or pronghorn with a .308 is very popular, but like 5 people say it’s, “unethical”

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tame pebble
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maybe EW should change the weapon classes to weight suggestions and instead of having the weapon class in the harvestcheck they could add a "max time to kill" and "callibers not allowed" for the species to prevent "overkill". With this system it would pass the harvestcheck if you would shoot a fox with the .22 lr at closer ranges (which is allowed irl at some places) or you could neckshot a roe with the .22 lr, just to give some examples. It would also "reward" more difficult shots to pass the harvestcheck because right now it's basically "hit any vital, no matter how long it takes to die" (having .243 vs gemsbok in mind)

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or they could use some kind of "min/max energy of the bullet" system

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tame pebble
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# tame pebble to be honest, I would prefer this basic system over our current system

Make a post n see what ppl think about it. I'm aiming towards immersion with options as close to irl as possible within the limits of the engine or as a 3rd gen title feature. Which is why I always like the input esp. From those seeking realistic over fantasy. For the record I'd love EW to make a mythical hunting game as well, it would be hilarious to shoot Pixies with shotguns "TheHunter: Realm of Mythical Creatures" 🤣

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So, this is mostly agreeable, but some nitpicks. Firstly, grey fox are the same weight range as tibetan, so it makes no sense to have them in 2 different classes.
Second, muntjac and musk deer absolutely do not need a class up I think, they are very small and certainly not class 3 material.
Third, gemsbok should be in class 7 atleast, they are way tankier than most class 6s and did not need to drop 2 classes at all.
Sorry if this seems abit of a ramble, but some of these make me genuinely curious.

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old wave
# regal estuary ***"Birds Only" *** **C:1** •Waterfowl/Upland Birds/Turkeys - https://discord.co...

2 things: number 1 why would a bovine species able to reach over 2000 pounds not be in the highest tier? And before you say anything about skin strength of a plains bison I can bet that they would probably be around the toughness of a banteng which is a cattle species 800 pounds smaller yet deserves to be in a tier above? Also what do reindeer and caribou do to deserve tier 6? They weight up to 190kg in the game and mule deer are 20kg heavier yet are in 2 tiers below? You can’t even use the danger factor because both caribou and mule deer are relatively harmless deer species.

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Also bobcats are about half the weight of lynx, just cuz they are similar doesn’t mean they should be in the same tier. I think bobcats should stay in tier 2, they are about the size of a red fox

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Mule deer dont get to 400lbs

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well then it seems to be an issue with the weight of the aniamls in game

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because mule deer are heavier there, also whats with a 75kg thar being a class above a double the size mule deer? toughness again?

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Monster Trophy mule deer can get to 400lbs but avg between 200-300lbs

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# old wave because mule deer are heavier there, also whats with a 75kg thar being a class a...

i know nothing of Tahr other then they are fancy sheep. But yes toughness and size have a factor when being specified on what caliber to use more specifically what bullet type & weight. The issue with the current system is the classes are defn. not balanced or accurate as is. 2nd they restricted calibers to 2 bullet types to cover game in tiers 1-9 by --> 1/ 1-2/ 2-6/ 3-7/ 4-8/ 5-9/ 7-9/ 9. <--Not accurate bc every caliber is not balanced. The reclass I did is more realistic to irl as one could guess between Game: Size, Toughness, & Danger level. I also broke down each caliber to be more realistic irl based on bullet weight & general use. I did not do bullet types bc their are 5+ for nearly all of them that also extends class range.

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if I went off of weight alone wolves would be T:4 100-150lbs/ Puma-Mtn Lion T:5 200lbs/ lions & tigers between T:6 & 7 400-600lbs irl not 700lbs <--(game logic)

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# old wave well then it seems to be an issue with the weight of the aniamls in game

As I said before I'm aiming for more immersion & as realistic as possible. If ammo wont be added then the weapon (Game classes) need to be adjusted as I demonstrated in my thread. Also for the sake of realistic game class tiers my listing is nearly spot on minus a few that could go either way. I think most hunters would agree its pretty darn close.

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Yeah, there's very few realistic choices for class 1 predators. Foxes and maybe martens are the only 2 I can think of aside from feral cats or something like a goanna

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# pale crow Yeah, there's very few realistic choices for class 1 predators. Foxes and maybe...

Yea I hear ya. Alot of critters I've been looking at were endangered or protected so it was pretty hard to find 1. I'm also taking a page from Jaxy & I'm working on an Upland Game gated reserve idea since there isn't a location that has 75% of upland birds on them. I think wyoming was the only location that had 7-9 or so if I recall. So I'm looking to add new species between 1-3. I think RC was ok but heavily waterfowl dedicated it would be nice to get an upland reserve with pointers and then Texas as a US close as well as Northern Canada. At that point it leaves: South Americas Amazon/Africa 2.0/ & another Eastern reserve as a close to this gen title.

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lol I keep forgetting the Tibetan Fox as well in T-1 🤣 I really need to play Nepal I havn't put hardly anytime into it

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Game Tiers 1-9: IRL

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Revisited - IRL Game weights Displayed with Realistic Tiers

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Before ppl ask; YES I deliberately moved Geese & Turkeys to T:2 bc they need their own shells not T:1 birdshot. As an alt I also did Caliber & Ga balances. #1274232957359489106 message <--Gauges & Shells Rebalanced.

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I'd love to see this adopted. Going by weight makes so much more sense than the system now it's ridiculous

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I did alot more research into the huntable game we have since I knew nothing about them personally outside of the general sense, except US Game for the most part. So after actually looking at records, videos etc. I reevaluated the previous guess based on game logic & rescaled to IRL Game Size/Weight & Yes! Lions & Tigers remained T:9 Due to Danger level since they are classified under Dangerous Game IRL. Bullet types and weight are based on Huntable Game's Size/Weight and Reliability to ethically put them down. So, I see no reason why this isn't reasonable. Esp. since TH: CotW is intended to be a hunting game and semi simulate irl hunting respectively with some videogame logic. I also did a more realistic caliber/gauge Game Tier coverage as well based on actual bullet weight over EW's Video Game Weapon Class Restriction wall.

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# stuck thorn Part of the reason I upvoted this: Lions and Tigers are still a Class 9 Species...

Its a fact so I see no reason why I'd alter it from RL. This is your standard ranges when it comes to game irl. The in-game logic & calibers are mostly based on an rpg mechanic over RL. I'll give credit where its due and meet in the middle with EW for trying but its not accurate. Bullet types and weight are based on the "Game's Size/Weight and Reliability to ethically put them down."

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Authentic Reclass C:1-9 to Game Categories

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Now this would make me be fine with pronghorn going back to class 4

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# woven laurel im not a big expert on animals but how would turkeys be class 1 and rabbits clas...

Technically <1-10lb game is Class 1 & 10-30lb is class 2 game. I've been reading alot of feedback related to 22LR & 22H along with various C:1-3 Calibers & Game. So yes technically Turkeys/geese would fall in C:2 but birdshot is C:1 except 10ga. Also Rabbits/Hares 3-8lbs up to Raccoons are Small Game. Though birdshot & .22 is ideal for rabbits there's other calibers suitable as well such as the 223 & 243 on the low end. Bare in mind I'm also taking into account of additional varmints being added in the future like Marmots, Meerkat, Prairie Dogs etc. & technically 22LR should be (1-2) & 22H (1-3).

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22lr barely does damage on turkeys with a flesh shot which is common to hit

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# woven laurel 22lr barely does damage on turkeys with a flesh shot which is common to hit

I have an issue with turkeys with the 22LR it shouldn't drop them unless you get a headshot. But in-game it drops them instantly. If EW added Turkey & Goose shells I'd gladly put them in Class 2. But Honestly I have an issue with the current Class 1 - 3 Game Specifically. Class 1 should be birds only, Class 2 Small Game & Varmints, Class 3 Medium Small Game. Class 4 & above is ofc Deer - Cape

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Hope that makes sense. I edited it to reclarify.

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