Gear Packs Pt. 2

[hoary crag]

Here we go Gear Packs pt. 2 - all suggestions will be posted with links to the related threads for reference.

Choose All that apply to you

🟢 Ambusher Pack 2
• Predator/Lg Game Decoys w/ Blood Lure
• Wind Directional Powder
• Trail Cam
- adds slots to decoys for scents & stacks attraction to both call and scent perks

🔵 Weapon Attachment Pack
• Muzzle Attachments: (Chokes-Muzzlebrakes-Suppressors)
• Bipod/Shooting Sticks
- adds weapon attachment slot options & "Fixed" tritium sights on/off option

🟣 Tech Pack 2
• Hybrid Flip Magnifier w/ Red Dot (3 &/or 5 Power Magnifier). ex.Vortex VMX-3T 3x Magnifier
• Rangefinder Scope - (ALL Weapons). ex. Burris Oracle: Crossbow/Burris Veracity PH: Rifle
- Illuminated Reticle selector & Lense Color options on "ALL Optics" (Just like the Red Dots)

🟤 Vehicle Pack
• UTV (Side-by-Side) w/ utility storage access
• Snowmobile
- ATV Rework (Paintable/Trax in snow/Racks with utility storage access)

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1269198134022504469 https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1263958551551021056 https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1267703373650464853 https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1244279229902884895 https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1157990139939782736 https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1207536341722734652 https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1180283487719260170 https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1255337251282358313 https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1097677875001446490

Suppressors (Rifle Only): Con: Reduces Range by 10% •Pro: Hunting stress is between a bow and rifle still allowing the bow to be used. •Req. a weapon score to unlock. Muzzle Brakes: •Con: Produces 5-10% more stress •Pro: reduces 30% more recoil (stacks with perks). Req: Weapon score unlock. Chokes: •Con: Ranges will vary w/ ea. Choke. •Pro: Selective Shot Spread. •Req. weapon score unlocks.

Special Thanks to everyone who posted these 👆 threads for great idea references & mechanics.

[broken carbon]

I'll vote for the attachments and decoy packs but honestly suppressors just don't seem useful to me for the context of this game

[lean fiber]

Supressors don't reduce range. Their con could be something like "increases aim down sight speed by 10%" and/or they could weigh about 0.5 units. The reduced range by supressors is something the devs from pvp shooters made in order to balance them, not because of realism, which is more important in a hunting game (in my opinion)

[hoary crag]

I dont disagree with you however I felt a debuff was necessary for balance in terms of game logic. Renders are only at 425-450yds in game if I recall so I thought this was a fair trade off considering you dont really stress at that distance. Yea they spook but it doesn't render stress like it does when you take game 200yds away

[lean fiber]

*I meant decrease aim down sight speed or increase time to aim down sights

[hoary crag]

the perks counter it heavily unless they did a rework with it

[lean fiber]

well... that's the point of using the perks

[primal burrow]

As much as I want a rabbit tail for predators, I’d much rather have a suppressor for hogs

[hoary crag]

Oh we were thinking a full decoy not just a floppy tail 😆

[primal burrow]

The floppy tails never fails!

[hoary crag]

Lol true with coyotes bobcat never had one buy it 🤣

[hoary crag]

at 328yd zero 10% = 295yds I think its a fair balance.

[primal burrow]

Another thing I would like to see is a pack full of different ammo grains and types

[hoary crag]

we talked about it but were unsure if they would this late in the game😓

[lean fiber]

with reduced range you meant lower the zero distances?

[hoary crag]

yea. The muzzleloader has this same mechanic between the ball and slug ammo. So I had a thought about it since we dont have authentic distance renders, and based on the edge of sight animal renders this was a fair proposal.

[lean fiber]

but the problem with slight changes in zero distance is, that for most rifles it wouldn't realy change the distances you have to shoot from, because you would just aim a tiny little bit higher than you are used to and after a while you are so used to it, that it's not a drawback anymore

[hoary crag]

I hardly notice it honestly I've taken game 380+ at 328 zero. The only difference is what caliber. Overall 10% less zero distance is like a 15yd difference. It sound like alot but it really isn't in terms of the mechanics. And they would only be applied to rifles that are compatible. Not all of them would be.

I wouldn't say I wouldn't be amused having a blackpowder suppressed but its not likely.

[lean fiber]

probably not xD

[hoary crag]

levers I'd like to say no to due to the models they refernce from. Ah the solokhin wouldn't, however a brake would be an option. Between the perks and brake it has nearly no recoil while using the 8-16. The 1-4 n iron yea no recoil really with the perk maxed as is. <----I love my mosin its hard not to use it. 😅

[lean fiber]

Well... I mean currently every gun model in the game (except ARs) doesn't have any way to mount some kind of muzzle device... so maybe EW would change them (also levers need some changes anyway, giving most other rifles supressors would just be another reason not to use levers)

[hoary crag]

6.5 is threaded, but yea they would have sleeve it on for look. I doubt it'll be as pretty as Ultimate Hunting advertised in their trailer 😓

[lean fiber]

ahh "New supressor DLC - 6.5 only supported weapon" xD

[hoary crag]

sry I had to mention it bc the thread cap annoys me otherwise I love it

[lean fiber]

"and maybe ARs" but you have to buy it to find out they are NOT or are they?

[hoary crag]

any weapon with a brake currently is likely threaded and not ported except the 22-250 and 22lr Armalite that appear to be.......atleast so far when I really look at them

[hoary crag]

but still if the muzzle attachments are added it'll likely be sleeved, tweaked, & noise reduced. nothing fancy like other titles that have them. But I'm not denying I wouldn't enjoy it with the ambush pack 2 with predators.<----been dying for this since we got the E-Caller

[lean fiber]

I would like to see a new scope like a 3-18x50mm as a first focal point scope and maybe a "rangefinder" version or add on that (instead of showing the bullet drop at the current range) just shows the range of the target when pressing "R"

[hoary crag]

I really thought about bundling the Ambusher Pack 2 with the 300blk rifle, suppressors, & a 2-14x50 illuminated optic. After the red dots I really want this option on an all purpose scope. Sry I'm really big on Predator Hunting and Northern Climate Hunts.

But we are already getting the 300blk so I figured might as well break it down to multiple packs ea. with a new mechanic for the experience. Players should be able to have more utility and ways to hunt. Also the optics was better suited for a Tech 2 Pack.

A few of us had the idea together to bring the Ambusher pack with ea. of our ideas into a single pack. And again I cant thank these guys enough for the thought.👆They're threads are great.

[hoary crag]

sry I speed read your reply n missed your point, but yes you do have a valid point about getting used to it however since suppressors are so highly demanded its only fair to have them set at a high rifle score to unlock ((since we don't have a weapon mastery mechanic)), and they need to be expensive as an endgame lvl attachment. Ppl will hate it but I hate buying content just to get it handed to me for free without working for it in-game for a price. $$$ should have more use than just buying consumables & Taxidermy's. Like how it was earning the 338 or 470 at the beginning. I miss having those goals to buy a weapon or gear. Now its "Here you go; enjoy your new toy my dear boy its on the house" 😉 😉 vibe.

[hoary crag]

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1269198134022504469 here is the thread me & Huxley talked about for the Ambusher Pack

[hoary crag]

Btw this is an open poll you could vote for all of them if you wanted to 😂 I didn't limit this one like the other poll I did.

[hoary crag]

Bump

[icy stream]

🟤 Vehicle Pack: Snowmobiles are used everywhere in heavy-snow country (Finland has drive-thru's for morning coffee by sled). In remote Maine and New Brunswick, the extensive logging roads are groomed for sledding, but you can also get off-trail in deep powder to explore. Think of new winter maps with travel by sled instead of ATV - I can tell you, they're much faster!

Mt. Katahdin, Maine and middle-of-nowhere New Brunswick, Canada

[spark harbor]

I think another thing not simulated enough in games is increased sound via muzzle breaks (we have tons of guns with muzzle break at this moment) I think this is a must have if we ever get suppressors.

[hoary crag]

Agreed, short barrel rifles also have a big bark

[opal plank]

I'd absolutely love some snowmobiles for Medved. Hopefully if they implement them they've got a slightly less spook range. Would be fun to hit the ice and get to within 350 yards on snowmobile without spooking the Reindeer. A guy could quickly rack up the kills and cash that way while still keeping it somewhat realistic. Think Chip and Agnes Hailstone on Life Below Zero. That's how they do it and they aren't using scopes.

[hoary crag]

Bump

[unkempt loom]

Less noisy and faster than the atv? They gotta have some sort of con because otherwise people won’t use the atv’s

[opal plank]

Sure. The con is that you can only use them on snow maps. Hope that helps.

[unkempt loom]

Oh yeah, figured but had to make sure, so medved and Alberta, and Yukon but only when it’s snowing i guess

[past flare]

• Shooting stick, PLEASE.

• Barrel porting and such things are really neat ideas.

• Red L.E.D. headlamp. (Less on glare, more illumination, easier on the eyes.)

• A horse or Something.

• A hand-crossbow and muzzleloader pistol might be nifty. A caliber of air-rifle for larger game couldn’t hurt either.

• Decoys are Always useful.

• Pelted character outfits, just look at how adorable Janine Armstrong is with her artistry.