9.3x62mm

[sullen wigeon]

Just a very clean looking highly effective 5-9 rifle.

Soft Points for 4-7

Round Nose solids 7-9

Caliber was made for German settlers to protect their crops from cape buffalo, turns out to be an incredibly effective hunting round for everything from impala to elephant as long as you choose the right bullet for the job and shoot well enough to put it in the right place

[tender moon]

I Love the caliber but would prefer If it was'nt a full Stock or stutzen

[sullen wigeon]

Eh, I like it. It'd be unique to the game (totally not a rip off of a direct competitor)

[whole star]

I see

[sullen wigeon]

Solid copper expanding could be a particularly effective bullet type. . .I hope

[sullen wigeon]

Still want this

[tender moon]

Me too

[sullen wigeon]

Gimme a bear buster EW

[sullen wigeon]

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[sullen wigeon]

Sambar hunter's best friend

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Maybe as a nice Steel Action HM straight pull rifle

[sullen wigeon]

That's a gorgeous rifle, maker?

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon a German company named Steel Action

[sullen wigeon]

I'm gonna have to look into getting my hands on this one

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon i want one too. Adjustable Trigger, semi weight Lothar Walther Barrel , etc. Just Sounds awesome

[sullen wigeon]

I might legitimately look into ordering one, I've read a little and I'm pretty impressed with them, and the straight pull bolt seemes very unique

[tender moon]

Me too as soon as i put the Money aside. Will be a great Upgrade over my VZ24 in 9,3x62

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[surreal hornet]

I use Nosler all copper E-tips and they have been a game changer for me.

Bump bc I crave for more 🤣 but seriously though another caliber is always welcome in my book

[tender moon]

@surreal hornet in the 1920 they invented the 9,3x70. Parentcase was the .404 Jeffrey and it Had around 4800-5100 ft-lb of Energy at the muzzle

[surreal hornet]

think I remember seeing something like that when I was reworking the calibers & when I was trying to find info on the 10.3x68mag.

[sullen wigeon]

Bumped again, interesting weapon and something for people who dislike the tsurugi to have as a repeating bolt action 6-9 rifle (arguments for 4-9 are also really good since it's popular in Europe for boar hunting)

[tender moon]

We need this ASAP

[tender moon]

Daily bump until we get it 🙂

[sullen wigeon]

I wanna point out, 9.3x62mm is also very popular for sambar deer in Australia they have a ban on semi-auto rifles so just after the ban the 9.3 became extremely popular for hunting the big deer because it had enough power to anchor the animal with one shot. It's Australia, keeping the animal away from the water or out of the dense vegetation is a huge draw in such a dangerous area

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[tender moon]

https://www.ronspomeroutdoors.com/blog/the-surprising-93x62-rifle-cartridge Just leaving this here

[sullen wigeon]

This rifle would be so fun!

[tender moon]

9,3x62 with 220grain leadfree Projectiles can get pretty fast

[earnest urchin]

I love this rifle in WOTH, my fav one of all time i would love it in cotw

[sullen wigeon]

Tbh, I'd be very interested in a straight pull 9.3x62mm coming to the game, it's a slightly faster rate of fire than a traditional bolt action but safe for larger rounds it could be the best buffalo defense gun in game

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon Like the one i posted

[sullen wigeon]

Yeah, exactly like it
Rxcept with iron sights

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@sullen wigeon i guess they'd be included anyway in the game

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Just found a place I could get a bullet mold for the 9.3 with a 200gr round nose. I want one so bad

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Someone in one of my chatgroups is selling a sauer 200 in 9,3x62... If i had the Money right now ...

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Seriously EW this could be an amazing 5-9 gun if not a 4-9 with better penetration and less range than the 7mm

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[sullen wigeon]

Gotta bump this for a bit

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[sullen wigeon]

Please

[tender moon]

Bump! EW we need this ingame. Its a crime this was'nt added years ago

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[tender moon]

Time for the bump... Seriously Guys. That we don't get more upvotes for this amazing caliber is kinda sad

[sullen wigeon]

It's kinda hard because a lot of the players really active in this discord are American ad haven't heard much about metric calibers, even if the 9.3x62mm is an amazing caliber, nobody knows much about it

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon i would rather axe both the .300blk and the .450 to get the 9,3x62.

[sullen wigeon]

Honestly, same, but that wasn't an option. Not that I voted for either of those in the first place

[tender moon]

Neither did i. The .375H&H is great. The rest is meh at best.

[sullen wigeon]

.375 got my vote, .17hmr would have been my second choice.

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Same

[sullen wigeon]

If they'd offer it, I'd happily buy individual weapons. Sometimes I like 1 weapon from a pack but I have to take all 3.

[tender moon]

True. Classic was better in that regard

[sullen wigeon]

Never got to play it really, but from what I keep hearing it had a ton more qol than cotw

[tender moon]

Was actually awesome. But i mostly stopped playing when it became f2p.

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[whole star]

I just included this calibre on a Straight-Pull Rifle on #1070045518002147458

[sullen wigeon]

Dear EW staff,

Please note, as an active player for 5 years I very much love this game, I would be perfectly happy to purchase single weapon dlcs

Particularly if I could purchase the weapon at reduced cost ( let's say 2$ US) and choose from a short list of calibers for the model, the option to buy multiple of the same rifle in different calibers would be amazing as well

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Size comparision between .223, .308, 9,3x62 and .338lm Just to raise interest

[sullen wigeon]

Nice! I'm seriously considering just ordering a 9.3 to hunt bears with

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@sullen wigeon i seriously want a Second one

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I know its not a beautiful rifle but that Mauser in 9,3x62 has its charm

[sullen wigeon]

Just needs a little love, and iron sights

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon Irons don't Work with that silencer

[sullen wigeon]

Use fiber optics and set the front sight back about half an inch back. It takes some getting used to but it does work

[tender moon]

Its an overbarrel silencer. I would have to put the frontsight 5,5 Inches back

[sullen wigeon]

That is wild, why is that necessary exactly?

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon to Not make the gun 5,5" longer than it already gets with the silencer

[sullen wigeon]

I'm used to American hunts, usually we just wear hearing protection

[tender moon]

We germans do too, but since we are allowed to have them more and more people use them.

Reducing noise is just one Advantage. Reducing recoil up to 75% is another one. And no more muzzle blast

[sullen wigeon]

I'm just old fashioned AF I know they're really useful but I just don't think I really need one

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon its not a need by any means. Just a convinience

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[sullen wigeon]

Rigby's Highland stalker comes in 9.3x62mm

[tender moon]

Nice looking rifle

[sullen wigeon]

You know, the 9.3x62mm is a standard length cartridge so you could theoretically get a Winchester 1895 lever action chambered in it

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@sullen wigeon Sounds Like a fun option

[broken frost]

Oooo

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[sullen wigeon]

If we get this, it needs super nice iron sights. A good set of iron sights makes the rifle for me

[tender moon]

I rarely use the Irons ingame. But since we don't have Suppressors ingame i agree.

[sullen wigeon]

This is my favorite way to hunt

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[uneven veldt]

It’s even better without HUD!

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[sullen wigeon]

What kind of ammo do you usually work with? A favorite or a hand load of some kind?

[tender moon]

Atm i am using sellier and bellot 285gr Softpoints. But since lead ammo will be banned next year i am looking into developing handlosds with 220gr lead free fox Hunter bullets.

[sullen wigeon]

Interesting, what animals do you hunt with it ? Boar or something larger

[tender moon]

I bought it for driven hunts or hunting Trips.

But i also used it on roe deer. And it actually damages less meat than my .308

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[sullen wigeon]

We really need a good 5/6-9 rifle with the single loaded cartridge animations. Like the Olsson and Malmer

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#1305854513692938250

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Just to put this Back on top

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[sullen wigeon]

Not trying to cause an issue but is that a roe doe? She looks about the size of a yearling whitetail in my home state

[tender moon]

Indeed. Thats a roe doe

[sullen wigeon]

30kg or less? How much meat do you get from roe deer usually? As much as I'm interested in them I've never seen one

[tender moon]

Less. After everything was done we were left with 8kg of meat. No bones Just meat

[sullen wigeon]

Wow. That is way less than I expected. It would probably take ten or twelve deer that size to keep our family fed for the year

[tender moon]

Yeah if we relied solely on hunted meat that would be the case for my Family too. They are small

[sullen wigeon]

It's not so bad though, that just means you get to hunt more often

[tender moon]

My Parents in law own their own butchery. So meat isn't an issue but i'd like to hunt more often. But if i am lucky i can hunt once or maybe twice a month

[sullen wigeon]

Still more often than most of us. I can go maybe 6 times a year, 8 if I'm lucky

[tender moon]

My wife is making her hunting license too. So i hope once our Kids are older i can go out more often

[sullen wigeon]

Nice, I got my wife and her father into hunting not long ago. Just before we married, she loves hunting pronghorn and her father is addicted to hunting mule deer

[tender moon]

My wifes Father and Brother are falconers. So she wants to get into falconry too. But she needs the regular hunting license first

[sullen wigeon]

Not a skill I've ever seen employed. Haven't heard of anyone doing it either, at least not outside tv

[tender moon]

My Brother in law use them to hunt crows mostly. But His last bird, a goshawk, also once killed a goose

[sullen wigeon]

Impressive, geese are more or less the biggest game a bird could hunt aren't they?

[tender moon]

Yes thats the case

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[sullen wigeon]

5-9 please

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[sullen wigeon]

PLEASE EW IT LOOKS SO GOOD

[tender moon]

I still prefer The half stock

[sullen wigeon]

Some of those are really pretty, but I love the full stock and I couldn't tell you why

[tender moon]

🤷 nothing wrong about that.

[sullen wigeon]

I think it's mostly because I've always seen/had half stock style rifles

[surreal hornet]

9.3x62 Browning Maral

[sullen wigeon]

It's very nice, but I still like the full stock models better
BTW I could swear I saw this in another hunting game

[tender moon]

Hunting Simulator 2

[sullen wigeon]

Never played it, didn't know it was a thing

[surreal hornet]

no clue I found this when I was looking at straight pull actions

[surreal hornet]

I'll admit this is growing on me. Not sure why but I genuinely like it.

[sullen wigeon]

Every rifle I own is genuinely a working gun, they have scratches, bite marks, and dents. I'm happy with them all, but if I was just going to get a rifle I meant to pamper it would probably be that one

[surreal hornet]

Thats how I feel about the 450BM. If the 10.3x68 was easily accessible in the states I'd go that route. Currently my Mauser is my baby next to my Ruger M77.

[sullen wigeon]

I've been described as "the angry lumberjack with a cowboy gun" three times in the last 2 weeks and it the same scratched up old .30-30 I've carried since I was 12. I don't generally buy fancy anything but the Sauer 404 Stutzen might be the one exception I make

[surreal hornet]

Lever wise I'm highly interested in Bond Arms LVRB in 450BM. Yea its a modern lever gun but the 450BM is limited on options.

[sullen wigeon]

Need to bring this up, I don't know how many of you would agree but I had the thought that the 9.3x62mm is a standard length cartridge so it could theoretically be used in any rifle that can use standard length rounds like say. . .

A Winchester 1895 lever action or a Browning BAR Mk2 Safari

[surreal hornet]

But yea the Stutzin is practical, basic, cool looking, & gets the job done

[surreal hornet]

🤔 possibly. Most actions are versatile to one another just comes down to bolt face and barrel.

[sullen wigeon]

That BAR is in .35 Whelen btw. . .

[surreal hornet]

A 9.3x62 Armalite would also be neat to see whether its bolt or semi action. Be expensive but would be cool to see.........☝yea it could work. Just using the proper action & barrel I can see this being possible.

That would be brutal having a semi 9.3 in a good way.

[sullen wigeon]

I have seen an 8.6 blackout bolt action upper, it might be possible but I'm not sure? It's so much longer than a .308 so the magazine would have to be mounted on the side of the action. I'd love to see a side mag model with a wood stock if for no other reason than how weird it would be

[surreal hornet]

havn't seen that since a Krag & a 20mmAM

I tried to get a 450BM bolt action made from Unitah Precision but they told me they couldnt bc the mag weld & extraction ports would need to be wider than normal platforms. And I can see that but what throws me off is its an Armalite cartridge. So I'm settling with the LVRB bc its practical for my needs over an Armalite.

I guess its still an Armalite but its a lever action 😅 the only other option would be a Ruger No.1 as a last resort.

[sullen wigeon]

Uintah Precision if you'd like to read a bit. They also have a muzzleloader upper

[surreal hornet]

Yea there local here but that must be new I'll have to check that out.

.........Thats badass! Thanx for letting me know I'm defn. going to look into it as well as the reviews. Might have to consider it as an option in the future.

[sullen wigeon]

Actually forgot about this @light wave told me about it months ago and I guess I favorited it but never read up on it much

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[surreal hornet]

nice yea I've been planning for multiple hunts once my kids are older. Been on the Bench for 7yrs sadly 😭

[sullen wigeon]

The design they use for their bolt action uppers could be changed very little and have a side mounted magazine for a handful of extra chances, but they'd almost certainly have to design a new magazine from scratch

[surreal hornet]

Probably, but still if you can make a 9.3 custom it would open doors. I personally wont be going on a safari hunt but theres a lot of other places I want to travel to.

Its just nice having enough regulation calibers to hunt around the world. And I do love blackpowder rifles just havn't found what I want yet 😅

1857 Norwegian Kammerlader 58cal. I'd settle with a replica if someone made them.

[sullen wigeon]

Idk if you'd like them but ER Shaw has a custom rifle builder on their website and there caliber selection is huge. Even 9.3 if you want it

[surreal hornet]

As an enthusiast and comp shooter I'm always happy to look.

[tender moon]

Damn i Like those rifles and the price seems reasonable

[sullen wigeon]

Yeah, if only they had iron sights. . .

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon Well Irons are more or less obsolete from a selling Standpoint. But i get your Point.

[sullen wigeon]

It's annoying to have to take every rifle I get to a gunsmith 2 hours away because he's the only person in my whole dam* state that will install ironsights

[surreal hornet]

sharing admiration where its due we need more calibers like this

[tender moon]

https://www.ronspomeroutdoors.com/blog/the-surprising-93x62-rifle-cartridge

https://www.ronspomeroutdoors.com/blog/the-surprising-93x62-rifle-cartridge

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[surreal hornet]

Can we get 80 🤝

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9,3x62 next to a .223

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[feral pawn]

full stock with the bolt action 😍

would love two variations of this like one could be the settler's variation, more rustic and then a premium one with polished finish or something

[sullen wigeon]

C'mon, there's a 9.3x62mm bolt gun in classic. We could use this!

[feral pawn]

need this and the .405 from classic in the game would be so nice

[tender moon]

Yes! YES! YES!!! We seriously need that engraved Anschütz 1782 in 9,3x62 from Classic

[dense meadow]

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[uneven veldt]

I’d kill for a Hunter: Classic Weapon Pack

[sullen wigeon]

I dream of a mega pack with six or eight Classic rifles and handguns

[whole star]

I a Hunter Classic Weapon pack ever comes I better see a Reverse Draw Crossbow in the mix

[sullen wigeon]

Would be great

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Bump. It should be 3-8 or 4-9 because it its very effective and doesn't do much meat damage

[surreal hornet]

3-9: (3-7) & (7-9) ammo options all day

[tender moon]

Yeah. Most Common load are 286 grain. But i'll switch to 220grain leadfree.

There are even some crazy Loaddata out there

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Noice.

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Strongest commercial load aviable

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https://youtu.be/2rVPXzA2HE4?si=rZOBR-b-cyEOqn88 educational Video bump

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[sullen wigeon]

Recently got Hunting Simulator 2 and learned about this thing.

Browning Maral

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon the maral is very cool. Its straight pull Action is spring assisted. You only have to pull it Back and let go

[whole star]

You sort of reminded me of my Bulgarian Reserve ( #1247766230530789447 ) specifically because I included that rifle in the weapons list chambered in 9.3x62

[sullen wigeon]

I got HS2 on sale and it was the starter pack rifle in 9.3x62mm, got me curious

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It's at least possible since it'll work with .30-06

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@sullen wigeon a blr in 9,3? Would Like that

[sullen wigeon]

Well, the 06 is 63mm iirc and the 9.3 is 62mm, it might not hold 4 in the mag but it should cycle normally

[tender moon]

Yes it should Work from a technical Standpoint

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@sullen wigeon So I have a question for yea. What stats would you guess or suggest for the 9.3x62? An Ex. Like I did for the 10.3x68.

• Rifle Name: 10.3 Wölf Magnum
Accuracy Recoil Reload Hipshot Magazine
** 90 85 50 40 4**

Ammo Penetration Expansion Class Range Price
10.3x68 Magnum Polymer-Tip 48 18 3-7 150m 780
10.3x68 Magnum Soft Point Round Nose 24 70 5-9 150m 1150

[sullen wigeon]

Honestly, I was thinking it could mimic the 9.3x74r, they are super similar but the 62mm should weigh about 4 units to match up witht the .375

[surreal hornet]

Thats fair as a bolt option over a Single Break. I'd enjoy that

[sullen wigeon]

Seems like the best option because rimmed cartridges just don't work well in bolt actions but it's a useful round all the same

[sullen wigeon]

I'd like to know, when did this get to 99 thumbs up? I did know anyone would be this interesting

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@sullen wigeon i agree

[surreal hornet]

🤣 surprise. Yea its getting popular & the caliber is getting noticed. Valrag has been refreshing it for ya. Now I just have to get my 10.3x68 up there. I figured it would get more attention with having links in detail as well as video & specs. I really want it added esp. If they release a Swiss Canton reserve where 10.2mm is the minimum.

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Leader 154gr leadfree Ammo for the 9,3x62:

Vo: 1000 m/sec | 3280fps

Eo: 4999 Joule | 3687 ft-lbs

E100 :3884 Joule | 2865 ft-lbs

Mpbr: 197 m | 215yd

@sullen wigeon @surreal hornet

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@sullen wigeon the bergara b14 Timber is also aviable in 9,3x62 as Well as.375H&H

[sullen wigeon]

My local shop has several B14s, I need to go check, may have to order it tho

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon cool. Since my 9,3x62 now is as i want it , i might be interested in a .375H&H B14

[sullen wigeon]

I have a .416 I really don't have a use for so the 9.3x62mm would be elk and black bear rifle for the thicker timber here. I'll Ave some good irons installed tho

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@sullen wigeon .416 is a big boy

[sullen wigeon]

I took it in trade for another gun I had that I didn't have a use for. Its way too much gun for what I hunt

[tender moon]

Yeah .416 has its real use almost exclusive in africa

My .338lm is gun enough to kill anything that walks the earth but some countries have .375 rstrictions

[nocturne dragon]

Though you guys might find this cool. The PH that runs the farm I usually go hunt loves his 9.3x62, in this photo, to bits. The dudes posing are the trackers. This is just an old photo from his Instagram

[tender moon]

Awesome rifle and Picture @nocturne dragon

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[nocturne dragon]

This with the new .375 is amazing

[sullen wigeon]

Lol, that's the Olsson .308. I wish the .375 had a front sight that large

[nocturne dragon]

Ja that front sight on the .375 is a little small hey

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[sullen wigeon]

Seriously, EW I'll pay 5$ this single weapon if that's what it takes

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@sullen wigeon still prefer half Stocks but i would do the same

[sullen wigeon]

Agree to disagree, full stocks are just perfection. However, i stand by that, I would legitimately pay for single weapon dlc to add some variety

[tender moon]

I would pay for single weapons too. Heck i almost got all the guns in Classic too Back when it wasn't f2p @sullen wigeon

[sullen wigeon]

If could play classic I would too. It's just loaded with awesome gear

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@sullen wigeon why can't you?

But yes. Shooting tripod, the Scout with integrated bipod, feeders Just to Name a few

[sullen wigeon]

I'm a Neanderthal with no computer lol

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@sullen wigeon since you mentioned a garand taking 9,3x62 rounds.
I remembered that there was a German gunsmith (sadly Long passed away) that build quite some curiosities Like P08 Luger Pistols in Ak-47 Stocks or the Like.

But He also build M1 Garands in 9,3x62 and Garands taking Box Magazines.
Sadly his old internet page has vanished.
But you could find sind Videos on YouTube. He was Called Herbert Werle

https://youtube.com/@herbertwerle?si=sh-3PL8VNAgF-b1_

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So, I've been looking into getting a 9.3x62mm and I've kinda got an idea. I want to make a single shot scout rifle

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I'd love to this in-game

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Just a pretty single shot break action in a useful caliber, like the 7mm just better

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Agreed. Just like how you like full stocks I prefer thumbhole stocks. Overall I'd like to see more single shots in general, that are not just rifle pistols.

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I been wondering, how would a full stock with a thumbhole buttstock look

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Like a bullpup. There kinda cool to look at but more often than not it looks alot like a bullpup design.

@sullen wigeon https://1shotguns.com/app/uploads/2022/10/Blaser_R8_Professional_Success_Stutzen_-_Black-Brown.jpg

not the best example but its 1 ver.

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Lol, nah, I'm thinking a 24" break barrel with a full stock and that thumbhole. I can make the stock myself, inletting is a pain but otherwise it's easy, but if have to look into some other bits

Also: that is a horrible design for the thumb hole itself

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oh I never implied for you to do a bullpup they just look like 1 if it was a traditional thumbhole not the photo I found. Although I would love to build a bullpup rifle with a cheek riser guard to cycle w/o leaving my sight picture. Plus you have alot of control. But a thumbhole stutzen single break action would be nice

nvm found a kit that is on my top 5 now.

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So did I but it's not a 9.3, jump over to weapons talk

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@surreal hornet @sullen wigeon i am Amazed we already have 126 likes

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I think folks started looking into it & decided it would be a good fit

Plus, it's getting well known as a versatile cartridge across the globe

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Yeah. Just the USA has an Obsession with .30 cal

Btw loaded Up a load ladder with 220gr bullets

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Well Hornady also produces 9.3x62 so it is available & Hornady is based in the US state of Nebraska.

[surreal hornet]

To be fair your not wrong 30-30, 30.06, .308, & 300wm all have alot of historical use throughout our history & still used quite often today between civilians. & our military

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Yeah its rare that a lager diameter caliber catches on

[surreal hornet]

Yea I've been trying to keep in the loop on what's mainstream as well as what's commonly used where & for what. Esp. with multiple new calibers popping up.

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@surreal hornet i think .300 PRC is the biggest one of the new ones that have caught on

[surreal hornet]

I havn't ventured into the PRC series yet but I have been hearing alot of talks about them lately.

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From what i heard their Advantage isn't their Speed in of itself, but rather being optimized for very Long, high BC bullets

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kinda like how the 6.5's & 7mm's are

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Yeah. Same line of thought

A 9,3 prc would be interesting or. 375 PRC

[sullen wigeon]

I was searching for .35 whelen rifles for another post and found this, a modded MAS36 in 9.3 and honestly, I love how this thing looks

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Thats legit

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I have the urge to make it a full stock with a scout rail over the barrel as some sort of odd bush devil rifle. . .

Also, who the actual F puts the swivel stud on the grip cap?!!?!?!?

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I love the look of this thing so much

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It's nice, and I do love how it looks but that sling stud bugs me

[nocturne dragon]

Ja that sling stud is really off. I can't see why it can't be in the normal position

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Sometimes people do strange things

But i dig that belt 😎

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It looks like it was made for bigger cartridges lol

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@sullen wigeon propably Made for .458 win mag

[sullen wigeon]

Definitely oversized for the 9.3

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Merkel Helix, 9.3x62mm

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Bump. Sporterized Vz24 with a 23,6" Lothar Walther semi weight Barrel

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https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=642

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Musgrave Field, it comes in a few different calibers, one of which is the 9.3x62
Best part for me is it's a South African make and everything

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[spring basin]

What a photo! I get the feeling those trackers are some pretty hard dudes

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I was Amazed with the trackers i had in Namibia 2018

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They are, guy in the back is David, he won awards for his tracking. Guy on the right is Thabo, he took me out most of the time and he was also great. Guy on the left is Takura, the man is a machine. Shot my first Impala ram with Takura, but that guy is tough tough, he walks back home every holiday from the SA/Zim border to vist family up high in Zim, catch is, he carries his wife and child...
They're really great trackers and amazing dudes

That David told me the story of how he put down a wounded Kudu with a big rock he found

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[sullen wigeon]

Anchuetz rifles from classic. Also suggested these for #1070045518002147458 but I had an idea for a third variant

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Idea was for a third variant.

A light colored maple/elm stock, aperture sights, and a leather cheek pad with two or three shell loops. It would also be damaged, tooth and claw marks, a tear in the leather.

Story was it belonged to an old timer who went hunting and didn't come back. You're searching for him and you find it on the path. It's a little more custom to set it apart from the two that come with the map and doesn't show up in the store at all. Just in your storage after you find it

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Yeah I'd love to see it in game but idk if anyone else would be up for it

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Yep

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Annoyingly, I have discovered a viable new 9.3x62mm that does not look normal yet is designed to be a hunting rifle, there's even a version of it in The Hunter: Classic

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@sullen wigeon i think the Classic bullpup predates the tts Xceed R quite a Bit, but the concept is Close enough

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The long model is very similar but modernized. It could use the same iron sights as the Zarza .308 does, or at least similar ones. In a 9.3x62mm it would be a 4-9, a solid improvement on the 7mm and a super unique design as well. I'm not sure I like how much it makes sense

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@sullen wigeon its the only bullpup Design i like

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Agreed

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This is another Steyr, like the full stock Stutzen above, but this one is a half stock style with a longer barrel. It's more basic but it would still be an absolute beast for 5-9 as a 9.3.

For my way of hunting I'd pair it with a relatively low magnification scope that was good and stable along with some good fiber optic sights

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Its a beautiful rifle. But If i remember correctly it has a rather thin barrel

Ah i stand corrected. In 9,3x62 its only aviable with a 20" barrel

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I'd pair it with this scope. A Leupold VX3 2.5-8x33mm. Most of my hunting is 200 yards or less so this would be perfect

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Hm not quite my cup of tea, but thats just because i prefer a higher magnification. I'd maybe choose a 3-18x44 or 6-24x50

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In more open areas yeah that would be betbut my terrain is either 75 -100 meters max visibility in the woods or 300 plus on the ridges. For a 9.3x62mm I'd keep it to the forest

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@sullen wigeon Sounds reasonable if thats your local Terrain. Although 33 might be a bit small in lower light conditions

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My bad, 36mm but the glass is good tho

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I have the bushnell Engage 6-24x50 with this reticle on my 9,3x62 and i have it zeroed at 100m. @20x the Moa markings fit nicely for my usual shotdistances (100m-140m-170m-200m) @sullen wigeon

Well Not 100% exact those Numbers but Close enough to not worry

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That's a high power scope, you don't shoot offhand much huh?

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@sullen wigeon nope i usually don't since we mostly standhunt

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https://youtu.be/KM7T10mWyPU?si=lU1MlEp8sqepP9Gy

Making me want the 9.3×62 in CotW even more

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IT WORKS!!!!!

1895 IN 9.3X62MM IS REAL AND HAS BEEN COMFIRMED

(Apparently 9.3X62MM has less chamber pressure than a .270, it's literally just a barrel swap to make it work)

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Now we really need 9.3x62, the 1895 and caliber customization as a matter of urgency

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Agreed! I'd love to take down stags with an 1895 that launched 286s

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Bump. Give me my beloved 9,3x62. I don't know why but if i had to choose only one of my rifles to keep it would propably be my VZ24 in 9,3x62 although its neither the most accurate , nor the cheapest, nor the most powerful,nor the Most ergonomic rifle i own

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I'd love to see a VZ24 in 9.3x62
I'd love to see a number of rifles in 9.3x62

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@nocturne dragon Mine is sporterized. Propably positive for its accuracy but a modified mil stock would Look awesome

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either way its a beautiful rifle

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@nocturne dragon thank you. I had a gunsmith Install a 23,6" semi weight Barrel

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Here's a beauty of a 9.3x62mm

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I love using the drilling rifle, unique caliber for sure. Would be great to have in the game. I mainly use it on Sundarpatan for Nilgai and Barasingha, really useful to have a 5-9

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Interesting option for a 9.3

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@sullen wigeon that Looks nice

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Sako's 85 would be a beautiful rifle too

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I recently saw a Ruger M77 Mk.ii with a boat paddle stock in 9.3x62, I wouldn't mind having that in CotW.
The reference photo is mine in .30-06

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There's an M77 Hawkeye African in .35 whelen I'm strongly considering ordering. It's a beautiful rifle with a classic stock

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If you do, please show us

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I am considering the african in .375 ruger or .416 ruger. Maybe .416 Rigby if i find one used

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Wish it was mine but sadly not, here's the rifle I mean tho

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So, I remembered this from an article I read years ago and somehow magically stumbled into it again. A reverse pump action rifle made by Krieghoff called the Semi Pro. And yess, 9.3x62mm is one of the options

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That would be really cool to see in-game as a unique weapon. Imo we really need more unique weapons, as much as I like traditional & modern actions it would add more diversity to our collection.

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Agreed, some variations in all the weapons would be really cool.

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C'mon now, a vintage Rigby #2 clone 9.3x62mm would be incredible

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@sullen wigeon 151 Likes 😎

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Didn't think this would get to 150, I'm surprised it's still growing

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@sullen wigeon seems like a Lot of people get more interested the more they read about it

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That's fair, I admit I've done the same. It's an interesting caliber that has proven just how versatile it is and it's the one that started my interest in medium bore rifles to start with

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So, I found this on an auction website but NOTHING ELSE ABOUT IT. apparently it's a European design "stalking rifle" in 9.3x62mm. The unusual triggers are interesting but not something I think I'd want

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@sullen wigeon hm can't say much about the action. Most likely a single shot. The trigger looks like a german "Stecher" you pull the one Trigger to lighten the triggerpull of the other. They are often adjustable. There are people lightening their triggerpull down to 0,2lbs for example

Although i admit this Trigger does Look strange

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I was searching up single shot European rifle designs

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@sullen wigeon never seen that particular model

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It's a beautiful falling block but that trigger bugs me

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Well as i've Said its propably a Stecher trigger

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Compared to 9.3x74,which is 5-9.
So I think 5-9 would be a bit more appropriate.
(Idk if they actually are similar ballistics wise tho)

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At the time I wrote this, I think wild boar were still class 4 and since this cartridge is popular for them in Europe I went with 4-9. Honestly, as long as we get one that's done well I don't care if it's 4-9 or 5-9

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Didn't expect this to get so much support, especially since WotH went and nerved their rifle not long after I posted this

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@sullen wigeon they nerved it?

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Yeah, penetration on moose broadside shots is down and the hit energy got changed to make it work for a class 5 cartridge they added

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Hm Sounds unrealistic. But then again never played woth.
I tested a Loadladder in saturday for my 9,3x62 with 220gr leadfree Bullets. Got new Data and can go Higher now with the Powdercharge

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Yea I have to get WotH esp. if it has ammo options. Though isn't the rifle selection limited?

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It's a rlly cool round🥀🪫

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Very, but it has the basics and the dlcs are fairly cheap. I just won't trust their bundles anymore. I bought the matariki park/Lintuoko reserve bundle before they had announced it was going to be clothing and been annoyed since. You don't need the side by sides either since they're already in game. If nothing else, I recommend the Steyr pack because those rifles are amazing

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yea I've been on the fence since its release, but I've been considering it. Btw I updated FP 2.0 with a game change and an intro to it.

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Ultimate Hunting will have a 9.3x62mm on day one. . .

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I know for a fact I'm too much of a caveman to use a PC for gaming , I just have to stick with console

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Yes, yes it is

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3 rifles available in hunting simulator 2 that all come in 9.3x62mm

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It would be a bit difficult to justify the 9.3x62 now with the 375 but its still a classic safari cartridge. The current 74r needs a bit of a buff to come closer to the 375 as it is extremly similar irl.

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Yeah? I disagree. The 9.3x62mm is more versatile than the .375 in a lot of ways and has proven itself to be a reliable rifle for smaller plains game.

Found quite a few hunters who recommend it for a one gun Safari.

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It is amazing for a one rifle safari and so is the 375. The 9.3 does have the edge in bullet weight variety (185-300 grain compared to the 375 being 235 to 300) but it is a bit less powerful the 375, still plenty enough for dangerous game as it has quite the reputation. The current 74r and a possible 62 could be 5-9 but the 375 probably should go down to a 6-9, followed by making the 300 and 338 5-9 and I'd argue for having the 300 top out at 8. All for "balancing" and of course realism. I use balancing loosly since in the early days of cotw the devs tried to make things balanced but recently threw it out the window, so now we have guns that hardly make sense.

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I think 5-9 would be perfect for the x62 . The .338 is a Strange one in Game. Its supposed to be the Lapua Magnum but feels underpowerd. In reality the .338lm is significantly more powerful than the x62 and i'd argue even more than the .375H&H

Although that really depends on the specific load

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I know a lot of people say the .375 cand do everything the 9.3 cand do but not vice-versa, but I also know alot of people that disagree. It's definitely a fact though that the 9.3×74R should be drastically buffed to be more like the .375 H&H in game (but retain it's weapon class) and because the 9.3×62 is practically ballistically identical it'd be the same but in a bolt action platform.

Now from my irl experience, the .375 H&H works just as well as the 9.3×62 on game as small as impala (whitetail deer size essentially) without causing any severe meat or skin damage really, the bullets tend to just go through and through no issue and minimal expansion (obv because it's made for bigger tougher animals) I know though that a .375 H&H with 235g bullet and a 9.3×62 with a lighter load are more than adequate for picking off small antelope and gazelle at ranges of 300 yards. Which brings me to this, the .375 and the 9.3 should have different loads for their ammo (along with all other firearms in game) that affect their external ballistics, terminal ballistics and weapon class, but that is probably extremely unlikely in CotW

Ps. I apologize for the essay I'm just very passionate about the medium-large bores

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Yeah both of them are used for plains and dangerous game but one has to keep in mind that the 9.3 is generally the bare minimum for the dangerous game, most 338 win mag loads equal it or out perform it in energy but the 9.3 typically has the edge in bullet weight and dangerous game bullets are way more common. Of course the 375 greatly out performs in energy with similar bullets. The lapua and the 338s in general is something I've always felt that if you're going to shoot whatever with a 338 you'd probably shoot it with a 375 h&h as well, and the lapua isn't exactly a hunting cartridge imo and truthfully only became popular(ish) due to long range hunting, which is incredibly stupid and irresponsible. For dangerous game, there arent really any common bullets suitable for buffalo in the 338s either. I have some real world experience seeing whitetails taken with something bigger than a 375, that being my buddy's 416 rigby, and even that didn't rip the deer very bad. Now I'm waiting for fall to come around again so I can see what my 458 win mag would do. The generally tougher bullets and lower velocity of the big guns do tend to do far less damage to the smaller animals than what most people think.

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I can't see the Tsurugi as a hunting rifle. It's too long, too heavy and the caliber is just not meant for hunting. It's a "competition " gun for long range matches and that's all. Trouble is, long range hunting goes bad a lot. Animals have much more time to move so the so called perfect shot ends up a gut shot that makes the animal suffer for HOURS if you can find it at all. Cotw has a render range of 400m so anything past that is pointless, but dozens of cartridges can do everything the .338 Lapua can do at that distance, in cheaper, lighter, lower recoil weapons.

The 9.3x62mm is roughly equal to a .338 win mag to me, at least in context of the game, I'm pushing for it because the tsurugi is not my idea of a hunting rifle. If it covers class 4-9 with better penetration than the 7mm that's more than enough for me. I just want an option for bigger animals that's more in line with my idea of a hunting rifle.

A 9.3x62mm in a nice wood stock with good iron sights would be my go to general purpose rifle

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I’m definitely with ya on the tsurugi not being a hunting rifle. If the 338 gets classed as a 5-9 and the 300 a 4-8 it would be more realistic along side a 9.3x62 and the current 74r. The 7mm could probably be made into a 4-8 too to better represent it. I made a new post last night on what animals and guns I think need to be reclassified and the 7mm, 300, and 338 are on that list big time. Unfortunately all the cartridges that came before animals having 9 classes are just so incorrectly balanced except for maybe the 470 nitro but I even think it could be 8-9 without issue.

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@neon geode @sullen wigeon i agree with almost everything, except that the .338lm isn't a hunting round. Yes it was Designed for Military use and Long range. But 8x57IS also wasn't invented as a hunting round as were a lot of other calibers.
The Lapua Magnum delivers the Energy and there are suitable Bullets for hunting (Not necessary Dangerous Game ofcourse because of Diameter) . Do other calibers what the Lapua does? Yes. Makes that Tage Lapua a Bad choice? No

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My issue is that most hunting bullets aren't designed for that speed, unless you have enough distance between you and the target for the bullet to hit the speed it was designed to function at its iffy if it will expand properly.

About two years ago I hunted with a guy in my local gun club and he used a Barret Mrad for elk. Took us two days to find his elk because the bullet shattered in the ribs and barely scratched the lungs. If a bullet is designed for that velocity then it's probably fine but if you choose the wrong bullet then it's not going to be effective.

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@sullen wigeon i am going to load some Sierra Game Kings in 250gr. I guess those will do fine

Although If i want to hunt with my .338lm here i have to switch to leadfree Bullets

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Judging from that elk, 200gr and below are a bad choice

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@sullen wigeon i wouldn't go lower than 250gr

[neon geode]

The game kings have really good reputation for accuracy as with almost any cup and core bullet. The Barnes is certainly the right choice for hunting with a lapua assuming you’re using it on elk sized animals or larger, bullet choice doesn’t matter that much with most whitetail sized animals. Any non bonded cup and core bullet just have terrible reputations for anything above 400-500 pounds since they just will not hold together, your energy doesn’t mean Jack squat when the bullet failed to penetrate. When I talk about a lack of dangerous game bullets for the 338, I don’t mean that it’s generally illegal in africa but rather finding bullets like swift a frames and solids either fmj or solid brass are just uncommon to find as either components or in loaded ammo. The only bullet that really works for dangerous game and is common for the 338s is Barnes tsx. To my knowledge there are some exceptions to the 338 in some African countries for lion, but generally the 9.3s and 375s are the minimum.

[tender moon]

@neon geode If i ever return for a hunt in africa its going to be for plainsgame. I was thinking of taking either my VZ24 in 9,3x62 or my .338 Lapua

[neon geode]

Sounds like a winner, I’m hoping to get over there in the next couple years for plains game. I may just go with renting a rifle so I don’t have to deal with the import stuff but I might take my 7 rem mag. Eventually I’d like to go for Cape buffalo and I have a 458 project rifle in the works for that.

[tender moon]

@neon geode used a rented .300 ein mag sauer 202 Back in 2018.
And my compound bow

[sullen wigeon]

This is just a single shot but it's a nice one. The company does offer it in a 9.3 cartridge tho

[sullen wigeon]

CZ 550 9.3x62mm, 4 rounds each. Almost as versatile as the 7mm but with better penetration and reliability on classes 8-9. This caliber is a gem and known worldwide for taking down big game with authority, recommended for everything from wild boar to giraffe and cape buffalo

[tender moon]

4 rounds seems to be the standard capacity for that caliber

[nocturne dragon]

4+1 if you like having one in the chamber ready to roll

[sullen wigeon]

I always do this but I hunt in an area with several dangerous animals. Is it that odd?

[nocturne dragon]

Nah I don't think I've ever gone out hunting without one in the chamber so I think it's pretty normal. Also save you a second and a sound in the spot and stalk scenario

[sullen wigeon]

I've been told countless times that it's stupid and dangerous. I've also been charged by bears, boars, cougars and an A-hole donkey.

There's a safety on the rifle and common sense should be enough to solve any problems before they start

[tender moon]

I think its entirely depends on the Situation and area you are in. @sullen wigeon i do the same in my VZ24 and Put the safety on the right position.

[sullen wigeon]

Seriously, a new 5-9 would be incredibly useful. I'd love to have more rifles covering unusual class ranges

[tender moon]

Zastava M808 aviable in 9,3x62 (also in a Lot of other calibers even Up to .458 win mag) @sullen wigeon @surreal hornet

[sullen wigeon]

That thing is slick but idk doesn't feel like the right model for a 9.3x62mm

Tbh, that's probably my own personal bias since I'm used to hunting in close range areas like heavy forests

These two are relatively plain looking but they're the closest thing I saw to my ideal 9.3

This one
Tikka T3 Hunter
Barrel band sling stud and good close range scope I can crank down to 1x or 2x , maybe switch to a set of really good irons with a bear buster style front sight

[uneven veldt]

It’s the box magazine for me, don’t like that look on dangerous game rifles.

[sullen wigeon]

I think my issue is the stock design, box mags can look awesome (Westley Richard's) but yeah I can see that

[uneven veldt]

I think it’s the weird over use of checkering on this model too now that I think of it

[sullen wigeon]

Is that the mag release on the side of the rifle?

[sullen wigeon]

I didn't even see the checkering on the grip at first. I feel like it's too fine and will chew your hand up like sandpaper

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon yes. Its a bit strange but its a bit different so i Like the Look. And its a modifyed Mauser action

[nocturne dragon]

These are absolutely beautiful

[tender moon]

@nocturne dragon indeed they are. Although i prefer a German Stock like on my VZ24

[nocturne dragon]

The German stock is definitely better imo as well. Absolute beauty of a rifle

[tender moon]

@nocturne dragon thanks. Its a workhorse ans has some scratches , the Bolt is kinda wobbly when Open but that Lothar Walther Barrel is awesome

[nocturne dragon]

How long have you had this rifle ?

[tender moon]

@nocturne dragon i bought it used in 2018 and replaced the pencil Barrel.
The rifle was rechambered for 9,3x62 in the 90s
And the system was last produced in 1942

[maiden cosmos]

Bump

[sullen wigeon]

My first choice, irl and game wise, for a 9.3x62mm is the full stock rifle in the OP

This would be my second choice, same company same action, but the barrel is a bit longer it's a halfstock design. Personally, I'd add some good fiber optic iron sights and either a red dot sights or low powered scope like a Trijicon AccuPoint 1-6

[nocturne dragon]

Oh wow so it's got some history to it, very nice

[tender moon]

@nocturne dragon yeah its a cool rifle and it even has an adjustable Trigger that is Set to just unser 2lbs

[tender moon]

A lpvo is a great choice for that caliber and i'd put one in mine if the conditions here were different

[sullen wigeon]

Terrain makes all the difference in optic choices, you've got open fields to cover and I have fairly dense forest.

Depending on how open the terrain was I'd go for something 4-12 range or a little higher, but for timber hunting short scopes are best

[tender moon]

Yeah we've talked about this. 99% Open field for me. So i stick with my 6-24x50

[sullen wigeon]

I'm thinking of putting one on my wife's .270 for pronghorn hunts, she was asking about an upgrade last season

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon any Budget restrains?

[sullen wigeon]

Dunno, no big plans that I know of so probably not

[tender moon]

But i guess weight is a restraint, so big scopes like a S&B PM 2 5-25x56 is not an option

[sullen wigeon]

Yeah, weight might be the thing. Wouldn't bug me but she's smaller framed so I gotta think about the balance too

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon mostly daytime hunting too, yes?

[sullen wigeon]

Exclusively, 30 minutes before and after sunrise/sunset and no night hunting at all.

[tender moon]

So a 44 or 40mm objective should be enough

[sullen wigeon]

And I gotta find a reticle she likes (picky af on these things and I have no idea why)

I'm looking at a few but they'll add like 2 pounds to the rifle, I like the 5-25 range but they're heavy

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon i sent you a DM with a cheaper 6-24x44 scope. From what i heard they are OK for the price. Somehow bigger brands don't carry that combination

[sullen wigeon]

Thanks, I'm gonna see if I can order it but shipping might be rough.

I'm looking at Vortex optics too. Lifetime warranty but they are higher by quite a bit

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon indeed.

[nocturne dragon]

What type of hunting do you mostly do with the 9.3x62 ?

[tender moon]

@nocturne dragon mostly standhunting over open fields. My 9,3x62 is not my go to rifle for that, but i like taking it out once in a while. I bought it initially for driven hunts, but haven't been invited for one in some years.

My Go to rifle is my Jäger 10 grs from haenel

[nocturne dragon]

Aaah ok
And what caliber is your Jäger 10 chambered for ?

[tender moon]

@nocturne dragon its a .308

[sullen wigeon]

I'd seriously love to have this thing EW

[sullen wigeon]

Surprised how many people support this, but it's probably because you keep it near the top every day lol

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon haha. Well they should have ported every gun from Classic at release anyway. So this is kinda personal

[nocturne dragon]

The fact that they said they planned to port all the guns from classic and I'm still waiting for some of them irks me

[sullen wigeon]

If they did port all the Classic guns in one big pack I'd pay for it honestly

[tender moon]

@nocturne dragon indeed

[tender moon]

https://youtube.com/shorts/mQqSalxkeu8?si=qDWFenSgnJQ18q4k @sullen wigeon

[sullen wigeon]

I'd pay a fortune for that thing, that's a slick old school freezer filler. It's probably fed a lot of people and has some great stories

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon zastava m70s Go for about 600-800€ used

[split osprey]

I've been using this caliber on WotH's Tikamoon Plains. It's decent, but I feel it's a little underpowered for Cape Bufs. But that's just video games and my only experience with it. Still wouldn't mind having it in CotW!

[sullen wigeon]

It used to be a monster but they nerfed it right before the Remington pack came out with the .375, then nerfed the .375 too

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon that one Looks really nice

[sullen wigeon]

Sako 85 Greywolf, sadly out of production

[tender moon]

Yeah i noticed. A lot of companies seem to drop the 9,3 from their lineup too

[sullen wigeon]

I'm wondering if people are switching to lower recoil calibers like 8mm or .30-06

[tender moon]

From what i've seen its rather that those new PRC calibers Take their place

[sullen wigeon]

I've tried a couple at the range, I don't know if they'll replace many calibers but they're going to be popular for a while

Long range craze and all

[tender moon]

I think their general Idea of utilizing longer Bullets makes sense. But i think its sad that manufacturers drop classic calibers in favor of the new Trends.

To be fair , i'd drop some Money on a 9,3 PRC If they were to make such a thing.

[sullen wigeon]

9.3 as a caliber makes a ton of sense, I don't get why it's not more popular as a wildcat diameter. I'd love to see some experimental calibers using the 9.3's classic bullets or new designs in that caliber

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon yeah i agree. They could even revive the 9,3x70. That delivered Up to 5160ft-lbs of energy

[tender moon]

Daily morning bump

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon roedale Made a 9,3mm Roedale Express wich is a .338lm case necked up to .366

[sullen wigeon]

I'm gonna read up on this, I found a reloading website with data already

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon i didn't find much but its a cool concept

[neon geode]

First off ballistics in that game suck, no contest. Second, the 9.3 is fairly similar to the 338s and is generally the minimum for things like buffalo. With the right bullets it can get near full penetration on broadside buffalo. For lions it’s almost perfect.

[sullen wigeon]

There's so many styles of 9.3x62mm we could have

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon thats a sleek rifle.

[sullen wigeon]

I love the full stock designs, I wish they were more popular in the US

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon they are classy. But my favorite wooden Stock is the German Stock

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon https://firearmwiki.com/wiki/.366_DGW also interesting

[split osprey]

I'm using this extensively now in WotH. It has really grown on me for sure.

[sullen wigeon]

It's effective, has good iron sights, works on a variety of animals and sounds amazing. What's not to love?

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon @surreal hornet found Out today that my 9,3x62 VZ24 doesn't have a normal Trigger, but a "French Stecher" Trigger. By normal use its Set to 1,96lbs but if i push the trigger forward the triggerweight is lowered to 0,2lbs

[sullen wigeon]

Wow, that sounds a little dangerous but I guess it's for accuracy sake?

[surreal hornet]

Sako I believe also has a trigger weight adjustment that makes it a hair trigger as well. It's scary to say the least but I cant deny its accuracy.

I really hope we get a Euro pack with the 9,3x62 , 8mm, & 10,3x68. If they did I'd be set. Minus levers & blackpowders. I would even be mad if their single shot rifles minus the K98 thats a must.

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon i am not a Fan of triggers like that. Enough Hunters killed themself with those and 1,96lbs is as light as i like. But they are accurate as hell. You simply have no time to jerk the trigger or gun

[sullen wigeon]

There's also the other end of the spectrum where you shoot much sooner than you meant too.

Knew someone who did it in a box blind. Luckily wasn't hurt but since he fired a .54 cal muzzleloader in a 4x4' box he ended up deaf for a week with permanent hearing damage and almost choked on the smoke before he could get the door open, then fell like 10 or 12 feet to the ground.

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon yeah thats why i'dont Like those triggers and wont use that Feature

[surreal hornet]

2.5 has been my ideal pull

[tender moon]

1,96lbs is light enough

[surreal hornet]

yea I get nervous with lower than 2 esp. my uncles 25.06. Its scary to use. On the bench its fine but in the field, I wouldn't trust it.

[tender moon]

Oh i Trust that old Vz24.
My ssg3000 is Set to 3,3lbs and its an awesome trigger

[surreal hornet]

I dont mind hair triggers at the range & for shoots but for field use where I'm often moving across rugged & thick terrain its unsettling esp. more often than not my gloves during the colder months would get in the way from paste use.

plus I like the feel of having alittle play b4 the break

[tender moon]

@surreal hornet i wouldn't use Tage Hair Trigger function. I think they are just too Dangerous

[surreal hornet]

I typically use Timney on my builds except my Howa. The Hact trigger was surprisingly comfortable to use.

I wasnt really a fan of the accu triggers from savage though. Great concept but it felt off to me which is a shame bc I thought I'd enjoy using it.

Speaking of that would be a great addition to add to our weapon slots is triggers even if its only used it improve stats.

[tender moon]

@surreal hornet i Love Tage accutrigger on my savage

[surreal hornet]

Yea I'm sure they improved it by now it was years ago when I used them.

[tender moon]

@surreal hornet bought Mine 3 years ago

[surreal hornet]

yea last time I shot a savage was back in 09' so I have no doubt that its been improved since then. Though we did have issues with the bolts back then which was odd. Remington had a serious issue as well with their primers as well. Box after box we had several failed ignitions, so we quit using Remington ammo since then. I went to Nosler, some went to Winchester & most of the family went to Hornady.

[sullen wigeon]

Eddystone 1917 custom build chambered for 9.3x62mm. Yeah, there's a bunch of very cool rifled for this caliber

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon that looks strange but cool

[sullen wigeon]

I'm a huge fan of the 1917 to start with so this is actually really cool

Like this one, a Browning blr that had a new barrel added to use 9.3x62mm ammo for a high powered brush gun. This one is user by a hunter in New Brunswick apparently

[tender moon]

Damn i want it

[sullen wigeon]

Here's my ideal version of a 9.3x62mm, mauser action with a 24" barrel. I'd have a peep sight to act as backup but the reflex sight is a great choice for hunting in thick brush or forests, a perfect stalking rifle for larger animals like elk and blackbear with plenty of power to take on grizzlies and moose, I sincerely don't understand why this caliber isn't more popular in America

[tender moon]

Looks similar to mine. Minus the Irons. But mine has 23,6"
A Lot of Hunters in Germany choose even shorter Barrels @sullen wigeon

[neon geode]

I have a Winchester 1917 in 458 win mag, really cool action I’d love to see newly produced actions for custom builds.

[sullen wigeon]

I'd love to have one or two to work with

[sullen wigeon]

Sabatti skl-20, wish it came in 9.3

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon Not my cup of tea, but looks very light

[tender moon]

Any Data on those?

I asked Chat GPT. @sullen wigeon

[sullen wigeon]

They're the baseline ammo in Way of the Hunter, I figured they'd be a decent starting point for us, honestly love those bullets tho

[tender moon]

They seem to be a strong load. I only ever found 2 loads stronger

[sullen wigeon]

They're awful in WotH

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon than woth srewed up

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon a really strong load from Brennecke

[neon geode]

You know if woodleighs are back on the us market in any meaningful amount?

[sullen wigeon]

If they are I can't find them, I've been looking for a source for ages

[neon geode]

Sucks, the solids they made were awesome. Just have to keep an eye out I guess.

[sullen wigeon]

Need some hydros for a project rifle, hoping I can get at least 100

[tender moon]

What is your targetanimal for those hydros? @sullen wigeon

[sullen wigeon]

I'm trying to set up a trip to Texas for cull water buffaloes, I've got a friend living down there that owns land next to a big ranch and they're crossing the fence a little too often

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon please keep me updated about that Project rifle.

[sullen wigeon]

.338 RUM converted to a 9.3 bullet, I was talking with a couple guys in my gun club about it and we figured it would be a pretty interesting little package

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon damn Sounds Like Something i'd like

[sullen wigeon]

We're hoping to make a sort of upgraded .375 ruger, something to stop bigger game cold but without the recoil of a .416

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon i Wish Wildcats like that would be possible here.
Did you choose the Rum because its what you had on Hand?

[sullen wigeon]

Yeah, two guys have them and had about 500 cases between them so there's room to work. I've been looking into loads for a couple days and I'm pretty sure we can at least start with base loads of 250gr RUM data

We're hoping the barrel we ordered will get here in the next few weeks but it might be next year

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon a true 9,3 Magnum would be awesome

[neon geode]

Sounds like an interesting project. I've heard quite a few say the 375 ruger recoil is way worse than most h&h rifles, mostly because of the rifle ruger puts it in is just too light and the brake makes it unbearably concussive. The 416 ruger is even worse, worse than some 416 rem mags and even rigby's which I've shot and they're not too bad if you know what you're doing.

[sullen wigeon]

I have a.416 ruger I took in trade, and the people who've tried it call it the dentist

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon @neon geode hm haven't shot either. But i knew someone who had a custom Mauser 98 in .375 Ruger and said it shoots great. I guess that rifle was quite a bit heavier than the rugers

[neon geode]

As long as you have a heavy enough rifle it isn’t bad, but the ruger rifles are far too light. There were instances of the bullets in hornady ammo getting worked out of cases from the recoil and the bad crimp hornady put on them.

[tender moon]

Hm my 9,3x62 was initially at 7,7lbs and that was already unpleasent to shoot. @neon geode i prefer heavier rifles

[neon geode]

Same here, I have a 458 win mag that weighs in around 9.25 unloaded. If I put a scope on it it'll be up around 10.5-11 lbs which isn't the best to lug around but it sure tames that big round. Even when the total recoil isn't a whole lot the lighter rifles just have a way sharper impulse and it makes it feel a lot worse.

[tender moon]

@neon geode with scope and suppressor my 9,3x62 weights 12lbs and its my lightest Bolt Action rifle for Centerfire rounds

[tender moon]

Bump. @sullen wigeon best group my load Testing produced before my scope broke

[sullen wigeon]

How'd you break a scope? Still impressive tho. I always have trouble with higher caliber rounds

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon was Testing loads. And suddenly the reticle was gone after a shot

[sullen wigeon]

Interesting, might have collapsed a bracket

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon possible. Its an etched reticle, so possible that the lense Just broke , because all i can See now is a quite thick black and rounded stripe

[sullen wigeon]

What are your thoughts on a 9.3x62mm necked down to use a .338 bullet?

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon hm i don't know. Never thought about it. But i guess its in the same Ballpark Like the .338 win mag

[sullen wigeon]

The question came up when I was talking with the guys working on the 9.3 RUM idea. I'm pretty sure it would boost the 338 mag's ballistics because the larger case would offer more case capacity but still fit in a standard length action

[tender moon]

Is the Case really larger? I find conflicting Info on that

[crystal nexus]

This is the Jakele J1 with different stocks. It's a german straight pull rifle that holds 2+1 rounds in an internal magazine which is above the trigger. Depending on caliber/barrel length and stock their weight starts at ~2,6kg. The "trigger" underneath is for manual cocking (while pulling it the rifle is cocked, release it for decocking) which increases its safety without having to use your thumb like on the Blaser R8 and prevents the user from forgetting to decock the rifle.

[uneven veldt]

I wouldn’t mind if they took some creative liberties and made it a 9.3x62

[crystal nexus]

I'm fine with any rifle that has at least the performance and class range of the 9,3x74r with "normal" rifle zeroing ranges (up tp 300m), doesn't weigh more then 4 and preferably has more then 1 shot.

[tender moon]

180 likes @sullen wigeon
We seriously need that Powerhouse in Game

[sullen wigeon]

This post has gotten way more traction than I expected

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon its Strange that this caliber was'nt included at release

[sullen wigeon]

They had a ton of amazing weapons in classic, I have no ideawhy they didn't just include them. I'd honestly pay for a pack that was just the old gear

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon Same here.

[tender moon]

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@sullen wigeon its ugly but atleast i can use it till my scope comes back from repair

[sullen wigeon]

This doesn't qualify as ugly, the lever gun I posted the other night does. This is pure workhorse mode

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon thats true. That Red dot is rated up to .50BMG (whoever shoots a BMG with a Red dot 🤷‍♂️ )

[sullen wigeon]

Coast guard choppers intercepting drug running boats is legitimately the only time I've ever seen a red dot on a .50 BMG

[tender moon]

I am going to use it für driven hunts

[sullen wigeon]

Well that just makes sense, fast targets in constant motion, needing both eyes open, a magnified scope would make it quite a bit more difficult and dangerous to hunt that way

[tender moon]

Yeah for driven hunts its either lpvo, Red dot or Irons.
Some people use 2-10 scopes

[sullen wigeon]

I'd prefer irons but that's me, I do have a 1-4x28mm scope that would probably be good for it

[tender moon]

I have a 1-8x24 i could use but thats on my AR

[sullen wigeon]

I just have a bog standard 3-9 on my ar, but all I use it for is coyotes trying to get at the livestock.

I think a lever action would be fun to do a driven hunt with tho

I only just learned they made a reverse pump rifle in 9.3x62mm. Just in time to hear it was being discontinued.

EW, please keep in mind that even if it's discontinued irl that doesn't mean it wouldn't be an extremely welcome weapon in Call of the Wild

[tender moon]

I thought about putting a 3-18x44 on my AR and alternating between the 1-8x24 and 6-24x50 depending ob if i was invited to a driven hunt or Not.

Lever actions certainly are a cool alternative for driven hunts. Just uncommon in Germany. And they have to have atleast 1475 ft-lbs of Energy at 109yd

[sullen wigeon]

I can think of several that can do that much, they'd have a fairly stiff kick tho.

Also, why that far? Do drives typically happen in fields?

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon Just a General rule in our hunting law. For any Game larger than roe you have to have that Energy at 109yd and atleast 6,5mm bullet Diameter. For roe its 738ft-lbs at 109yd

[sullen wigeon]

Plain old .30-30's would serve pretty well then, cheap ammo and low recoil too

[tender moon]

The usual calibers present at driven hunts are .308, .30-06, 8x57IS and 9,3x62.

[sullen wigeon]

Ooh I found a beauty (been distracted by the Askiy Ridge rifle, exactly the model I use irl)

Anschutz 1782D, 9.3x62mm

[tender moon]

The 1782 is the model from Classic i think

[sullen wigeon]

1780, close enough. I love the stock tho

[neon geode]

1780 is what’s in classic. Absolutely loved the engraved version of it I was so excited to finally buy it in game.

[tender moon]

The engraved Version was actually one of the first solo rifles i bought for Classic

[sullen wigeon]

Okay, so. The Askiy Ridge rifle is an absolute let down and they've ruined my absolute favorite rifle. I don't know if they'll ever actually give us decent rifles like this

[tender moon]

Damn

[sullen wigeon]

They changed absolutely nothing but the skin of the Whitlock and let it use modern scopes. It's still a 2-6 and restricted to 150m max zero

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon thats extremely disappointing

[sullen wigeon]

They didn't put any effort at all to make it decent, I'd be willing to bet it's because beavers are class 2 and some idiot thinks a .30caliber rifle that's been killing deer and black bears for over a hundred years only works as a varmint round

[spiral linden]

I think it was more of a decision. I bet there’s folks who work there that have pointed out how dirty they’ve done the .30-30 but they’ve probably been out voted. 😐

[sullen wigeon]

It lost them a long time customer then.

After the video I canceled the pre-order and deleted the game. Didn't realize how much money and storage space was tied up in the game

I kinda want to stick around a bit longer to see if they give enough of a da*n to try and fix it but I might be just done. Hope you guys can still enjoy it though

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon damn Dude

[surreal hornet]

I will still enjoy it but I'm joining the resistance to get it corrected along with the Fors Elite. I'm going to stick it out till UH releases and at that point I hope EW wakes up bc if UH succeeds 60-80% of players will make the shift......90% chance it'll be bc of the elephants 😅❗ EW lost their way with G1's & not following their base game content with gear & weapon pk add-ons being free in-game skipping base game progression not to mention the arcade caliber ammo class locks

[tranquil wasp]

And what other trophies will there be outside of elephants that we haven’t seen in Cotw or woth? Heck is it even coming out this year? It was supposed to be out in like 2021 xD. Don’t get me wrong I’m getting tired of how the weapons are in Cotw but not enough to make me look for a new hunting game.

[surreal hornet]

Its more than just the weapons its the overall changes EW has made from being authentic on release with some gamy features to being an arcade culling simulator. WotH is better in alot of ways but also falls short where CotW excels. UH was postponed yes but the Devs dont want to kick out a sh*t game that isn't polished. So I'm glad they're taking their time developing it. At the current moment a demo is supposed to release this summer to collect feedback & data. Also not everyone plays hunting Games for Trophies its only a small % of any hunting title. Also they have released both the California & Africa Reserve game lists. And I said 90% of players would likely shift bc no one else except Cabelas titles have released elephants in their games. EW would make a huge turnover if they did but they havn't. To add salt to the wound players can hunt Elephants day 1 w/o buying a Dlc. This ofc all depends if UH delivers. Even if it doesn't do well the features being applied into it is what future genre titles should apply moving fwd. The more options, utility, & freedom a player has with well execute immersive gameplay will usually succeed & prosper. This is something TH:CotW seriously lacks bc the restrictions are severely high. The 1 thing I do enjoy about TH:CotW is the arsenal options overall but for a solo intended title players should have more freedom a not be forced. Also the narrative storyline has been dying out. Its another feature I loved about this title but over the years its been dying out & becoming less & less immersive.

But I'm an immersion player so the details & features matter to me just as much as the gameplay mechanics. I'll be honest I want EW to develop a 3rd Franchise title with the new standard features. But if they intend to put all their efforts into this title over a new one I'd expect them to update the game with new features not repeat content over & over while degrading their past work.

[tranquil wasp]

It was never realistic to begin with, heck I’ve been grinding since 2019 and it use to be a lot easier. Animals used to show on time every time to their zones, tents used to not scare animals but rather have anything under 200m from the tent not load in and then you just walk a little ways to load them in, animals use to stand around like 4 seconds after a gunshot allowing you to kill 3 or 4 at a time instead of 2 if fortunate like nowadays. Ever since herd management got fully discovered, they’ve made changes to the game to make it “harder” ( though they definitely missed that on tigers by giving them a drink zone ). And woth can be even easier with the difficulty settings, easiest mode with a utv + Cape buffalo = a lot of fun blasting and chasing every herd xD. Now while I do love grinding I do wish new maps would be reserved for mostly new animals, I don’t need 4 g1 species of old animals on one map because most of my energy goes into only 1 g1 grind on a map.

[surreal hornet]

See thats where we differ bc I'm not a grinder "trophy hunting". I'm sim hunting atleast as much as I can given the overpopulation & respawns. I personally dont care for G1's after EW went to a fantasy theme. I preferred the natural looking G1's. The Red Deer is based on the Great Stag legend so that made sense given EU lore but half of them are so out there I cant justify it. But to each their own with their lodges bc a player decides what is a trophy & what isn't. For me I'm all over predators & furbearers but the lodge is another issue that restricts what can be placed & what cant. Not to mention the Game models are always the same from a select few variants excluding fur types. UH has a leg up here using an ai 3D scanner to randomize racks so you are less likely to find the same rack. This is also applied to the size scales as well. This makes viewing a lodge more diverse & unique over seeing the same models over & over. Really the only difference you might see is a game theme or mixed species in CotW player lodges. But those that do nothing but grind that only have G1's in their lodge is very boring to see bc there's no diversity. Now did you spend hrs, days, weeks, months, if not years to achieve it probably but its not worth it to me to burnout trying to either. Ofc play how you want to as everyone should but my issue with EW is the lack of new features & mechanics aside from the forced game mechanics. I hunt what I want with whatever caliber & could careless for the medal scoring bc I use calibers in the same way I do IRL in-game & I refuse to accept the forced supposed ethical harvest score unless its for a job/quest. But I do have an issue with the supposed weapon (caliber/ga) dmg to game ratio they claim its for balance when their hasn't been a balance for years. & I 2nd your statement that EW should focus more on adding new species over repeating them over & over.

[tranquil wasp]

Thing is less population would hurt casual players the most. If anything less population would be a dream for grinders, less for us to shoot = faster herd management = faster grinds. unless they decrease it so much and remove drink zones that every species becomes like the snow leopard, which imo everyone loses there except realistic hunters. Now yes mountain lions need a population decrease ( though imo they just need to not feed so much ) but if every population got decreased it would only improve a grinder’s experience and take away from the casual player.

[nocturne dragon]

I'll be sticking it out untill they either don't add Impala when they should or do a bad job of adding them.
I'll be as irate as you are now if they screw up impala

[surreal hornet]

It would be perfect for my playstyle with better population balances. As I mentioned I'm a predator hunter & it would be ideal for me personally along with additional ways to hunt them outside of the E-Caller. Prey to me should vary on location or rather each unit on the reserve. Elk is a pretty good example where they reside in a particular unit/zone. The feeding/drink zones annoy me alot bc its no random & I wish it was.

[sullen wigeon]

Update on the 9.3/RUM.

We got some loaded cartridges after a struggle and the initial test firing went okay, we bought a McMillan stock for it and the barrel is a couple weeks away

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon sweet. You should call it 9,3 HUM (Huxley ultra Magnum)

[sullen wigeon]

I doubt the guys would go for that lol

[tender moon]

😂 but you said testfireing went okay. Already got any Data on FPS or ft-lbs?

[sullen wigeon]

I wasn't there, was stuck in a doctor's office. Apparently the load we ran was almost the same as a RUM factory load and had about 100fps less than the .338 version

[tender moon]

Sounds good. What Twistrate will the new Barrel have?

[sullen wigeon]

The test barrel was 1:9 but it apparently was too fast. 3/4" was the best groupings they could get

[tender moon]

1:9 is very fast considering 1:14 is the standard

I guess 1:12 or 1:11 would be a good place to start for heavy for caliber Bullets Like the 325gr Norma oryx

[sullen wigeon]

I think it'll do best at 1:14 or 1:16, it's a much longer bullet than they planned to use. We ordered a 1:13@ 24" barrel for the test.

[tender moon]

1:13 Sounds good. I wouldn't Go to 1:16 thats pretty slow. What bullet did they use?

[sullen wigeon]

A nosler 250gr, it was all we could get for the first run, im waiting for a batch of 300gr. Woodleighs I ordered a while back too

[tender moon]

250gr is on the lighter side for lead Bullets in this caliber as 286gr is the standard weight. So i guess if you plan on using 300gr Bullets , maybe even monometal ones wich are considerably longer than 1:13 is the right way to Go. Maybe even 1:12

[sullen wigeon]

It's not really meant for long range shots, but as a bear/bison round. We planned on using 300gr for all the first test loads and couldn't find as many as we expected

[tender moon]

Not necessary Long range, but you want optimal stabilization for the bullet regardless, don't you?
Anyway i guess the barrel you ordered will work perfect

[sullen wigeon]

As far as the recoil goes, on of the guys who watched the test firing said and I'm quoting him directly "God I hope this is a heavy rifle"

[tender moon]

Yeah you should Put a can or a good muzzlebreak on that thing.

[sullen wigeon]

We had them install a break at the factory lol

Still, it's on track to be a good round for big game. We're gonna test it with bison first, then I'll take up to Washington for an elk hunt. We're hoping to get at least one heavy bodied animal to see how it works downrange

[tender moon]

Let me know. This Sounds Like Something i'd want

[sullen wigeon]

Yeah, np

Idk if we can get it recognized though. But hopefully you'll see a rifle and load data for the 9.3 Grizzly cartridge one day lmao

[tender moon]

That would be awesome

[thorn lava]

I like big bores and I cannot lie.

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon https://fuchsfineguns.com/guns/russian-five/ gimme gimme gimme

[sullen wigeon]

I've seen this rifle a bunch lately, especially in the #1195097534239088720 thread lol.

Still, it'd make for a beast of a rifle

[tender moon]

It would indeed @sullen wigeon

[sullen wigeon]

Update on that 9.3 RUM, it exploded

Best we can figure it was a case failure, maybe a mix up with the brass. I'm guessing it was a case that was used too many times and worn thin.

Luckily it was the test barrel, a single shot break action we were testing ammo with. We did run into something we didn't expect tho. I got hold of a 9.3 cal bullet mould from a friend in Australia that's a custom shape, a 320gr RNFP. We were getting groups of like .25 to .39 at 200m with them constantly

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon damn with the Explosion but atleast Nobody was hurt.

But those Bullets Sound awesome

[sullen wigeon]

Yeah, unfortunate but at least the only damage was the gun.

But yeah, those bullets paired with a medium burn rate powder turned out flawless. It was weirdly accurate somehow

[tender moon]

Sounds Like it. 9,3 is Just an amazing caliber

[sullen wigeon]

Recoil actually wasn't too bad in the single shot either, I'd say about the same as a .45-70/.375 with medium loads. I was thinking about having a barrel made for it and making a single for myself after we get it ironed out

After about 6 or 7 hits it also split an 8 inch log. We had to move ranges lol. Based on the info I got from my friend in Aus he was using these bullets the same way he'd use solids. I was wondering if I tried a softer mix if I could get a slow expanding bullet for elk and black bear, something like a decent soft point but with extra weight to punch a bit farther

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon i am still waiting on the repair of my scope

[sullen wigeon]

Have you had any updates?

[tender moon]

Yeah they want to process the repair next monday

[surreal hornet]

^

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon my broken bushnell Engage 6-24x50 will be replaced by a bushnell Match pro Ed 5-30x56... Overkill for a hunting rifle, but i'll Take it

[sullen wigeon]

Well, at least it's the same kind of range. How long will it take or did they say?

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon next week

[sullen wigeon]

Nice, at least it's a reasonable time line now that you've got a deal worked out

[tender moon]

Indeed. But still 14 weeks Till they came around is very long

[tender moon]

Well since No more simple bumping allowed how about another candidate for the rifle itself? The Sako 90 Bavarian and Grizzly both are aviable in 9,3x62 @sullen wigeon

[tender moon]

So fitting for this Thread: My Brno Vz24 in 9,3x62 Mauser now fitted with my new Bushnell Match pro Ed 5-30x56. Kinda Overkill for a hunting Rifle but hey got it via warranty Claim @sullen wigeon @surreal hornet

[sullen wigeon]

Sako rifles are absolutely gorgeous, I still want a full stocked version but id be ecstatic for this one too

[tender moon]

https://www.americanhunter.org/content/head-to-head-35-whelen-vs-9-3x62mm-mauser/ an interesting read to keep the thread alive

@sullen wigeon anything new from your wildcat?

[sullen wigeon]

I was reading that the other day too. I've been comparing them a lot.

As for the Wildcat, my back injury has made actually shooting it a severe pain, but we've had a couple others try it and they seemed to like it. I switched it to IMR powder and got a boost of about 75 fps across the board too. One of the other guys bought a bunch of brass solids for testing and we've learned the hard way that light trucks are fair game

[surreal hornet]

Nice

[tender moon]

@surreal hornet @sullen wigeon tried taking some nicer Pictures. Can't wait to sight it inm

[surreal hornet]

Thats gorgous

[tender moon]

Thanks. I Love this old workhorse

[surreal hornet]

Maybe in a year or 2 I'll be in a position to build a new rifle 😅 I'm still determined to build the 10,3x68 Magnum, 300Blk, 450 Bushmaster, & maybe a 45-70. I love my 308Win but papa needs to mix it up.

[tender moon]

I know that Feeling. I am swaying between wanting a .375H&H or ruger a .416 ruger a 458 win mag or a 45-70 Marlin sbl...
Seeing as my 9,3x62 already is a great Safari rifle its propably going to be the 45-70

[surreal hornet]

If I ever find one I really want a Kammerlader but their very rare. As for a big boy the largest game I'll likely hunt is a Moose. I'll likely never go to Africa for a Safari hunt unless I go to a Safari Ranch in Texas but we all know that's not the same 🤣.

[tender moon]

I was 2018 in Namibia but i want to Go again sometime. But only for hunting plainsgame

[surreal hornet]

If I did go in my lifetime I'd love to hunt Hyenas, Varmints, & Furbearers. Everyone wants to hunt the Big 5 & from what I gather it's a once in a lifetime thats a miracle if you get to. I love predator hunts but a lion isn't one of them. A Leopard maybe given the high risk & challenge.

If we did get a new Africa reserve I hope they add Heyenas and the Leopards are scarce & ambush you like the Tigers.

[tender moon]

Back in 2018 i hunted a Red harte beest, a warthog and a Jackal (with my Bow)
Back then i borrowed a Sauer 202 in .300 win mag.

Next time i want to either Bring my 9,3x62 or my .338 lapua

[surreal hornet]

The 9,3x62 would be my choice of the 2 imho. Has the versatility over the 338 Lapua. Though I'll admit huntin Warthogs would be fun as well. On that note if EW adds the 9,3x62 I hope they dont botch it as a 7-9. I expect it to be a 5-9 unless they actually add a gear pack expanding ammo options.

[tender moon]

Well the Lapua has quite a few Options for huntingbullets but i get what you mean.

And i Hope for 5-9 too

[surreal hornet]

Oh I wont argue with that with the 338 Lap its a great round but it can get a bit pricey n genuinely speaking most 338 Lap rifles are rather heavy to lug around 😂. But yea the class locks are killing the game for me esp. as of late. Its sad I have to play against the ethical mechanics to hunt with calibers that are authentically rated for game. It broke my heart with the 7.62x35 & now the 410ga slugs. *"I mean come on a 410ga slug is a C:3-5 and coyotes are C:2 Really!?!!"

[tender moon]

Yeah Classic handled that better

[surreal hornet]

I dont have PC so I wouldn't know but I hear that often that calibers are more authentically placed & used in Classic.

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon @surreal hornet i sighted in my new scope for the 9,3 for further load developement.
The scope is absolutely great.
I just wish i had Access to Buffalo Bore Powder. They manage to bring 250gr tsx bullets to almost 4000 ft-lbs for the x62

[sullen wigeon]

Don't you mostly hunt roe deer? You trying to skip the gutting process altogether?

[tender moon]

😂 yes indeed i mostly hunt roe. But i found a place where i can hunt wild boar for free

[tender moon]

Tried capturing the Sound of the 9,3 in Classic @sullen wigeon @surreal hornet

[neon geode]

Not sure if this was posted here or not but Ruger has a no.1 in 9.3x62

[tender moon]

Also very nice

[tender moon]

https://youtu.be/ckHXg8uCr14?si=s5SULd6kUs-f9jnB quite new vid from Buffalo Bore about the 9,3x62

[sullen wigeon]

Im afraid to get my hopes up but if we get a Euro map in December theres the ever so slight chance we might finally get a 9.3x62mm

[tender moon]

That would be awesome

[sullen wigeon]

Id be more than extatic for a Falling Block style rifles or even a bolt action, made in the style of European Stalking rifles

[tender moon]

I would wish they'd give us a Mauser 98 Type Action rifle as the 9,3x62 was designed for this action

[tender moon]

A beautiful rifle and 9,3x62 next to .30-06, 8x57, 6,5x55swe and .308

[sullen wigeon]

@tender moon

[tender moon]

@sullen wigeon thanks. No clue why this thread wasn't displayed for me anymore

[sullen wigeon]

Discord was doing weird crap for me yesterday too. I had to leave the thread then go back to feedback to get my followed threads to show up

[tender moon]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=mEc20VZULTg

Ruger makes a new 9,3x62

[tender moon]

https://open.spotify.com/episode/6IVcE48jkpJemvYxjmh6Lx?si=T9r4ElRUTh-pL9MTw1-fHA&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2Ex1AeB1BIMEe34r51Qez7 interesting Podcast Episode. It goes really indepth about the differences and similarities between the 9,3x62 and the .375H&H