#Great One/Mythical Idea

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lethal wedge
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I propose Grt-One's be on a weekly 1 per species weekly spawn rotation. This has proven to be ideal on TheAngler with Legendary Fish. Only difference Grt-One's spawn in a random location wondering the reserve either alone or in a group. They shouldn't just appear from culling numbers to have them appear. They are meant to be a challenge not something that can simply be summoned with 100's if not 1000's of sacrifices.

In addition to the challenge: Ea. Grt-One has a mechanic to either find or lure them out.

Ex. Scents (Ambush), Calls (Mate), Agro - (Territorial), even culling a pride (Lions) or pack (Wolves) to draw out the Alpha (Grt-One), Tracking (Special Track Cues). Etc.

I believe this'll be more interactive and interesting for any player to enjoy utilizing different methods. If time is your worry well, you have a whole week to get them provided you find them. If you missed them don't worry, they'll re-appear in the next rotation. Neutral, fair, equal opportunity, & its a challenge.

Wardens at the specified reserves will provide you with a clue as to where to start looking but it will entirely depend on you to seek them out since they could be anywhere.
Players are only allowed to harvest Ea. Grt-One once within the weekly rotation. Means if there's 3 Grt-Ones on week 1 your allowed to harvest ea. one once till the next rotation.

•Grinders: Grind to complete the weekly rotation using the Grt-One's preferred challenge method ea. week.
•Casuals: You can take your time at your own pace.
•Run & Guns: I guess go in guns a blazing in your pursuit??? (plz dont hate me)

#Players will receive a reward if they are able to hunt all Great Ones successfully in each rotation & a bonus reward if done ethically.

I'll never back instant respawns however I will suggest that respawn time intervals be respectfully adjusted and allow grinders to grind more often than they can now.
So what do we grind for if we cant grind Grt-One's? Re-worked Mythical's.

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Mythical to me means super rare & unique, where Grt-One's are stuff of Legend.
Mythical would include Rare Furs/Non-Typical/Battle worn/Mutation: Antler/Horns have a unique spread both typical, non-typical, thickness, spiral curve etc. with various variations that really stand out. Culling methods apply the same as always but mythical's are alot more rare to show.

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Keep in mind Great Ones are still going to be challenging to acquire and will in no way be as easy as summoning them with sacrifices.

lethal wedge
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My thoughts behind this is Great Ones require a unique method to hunt them over sacrifices, where Mythicals are appealing unique trophies that really stand out.

weary ibex
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A good portion of The Anglers player base is already calling for a Legendary Rework, maybe not the best idea.

lethal wedge
weary ibex
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I’ll probably make a poll thingy to get everyone’s opinion on the legendary system over there. But from what I’ve seen… it’s mostly negative.

lethal wedge
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Thats a real shame

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I liked the grinds for golds and Diamonds and having 1 of 3 a week to catch them. Like I said it just sucks they nvr relocate after being caught. They return to the same spot so ppl flock to the location.

lethal wedge
weary ibex
vapid pivot
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I'm familiar with how the Angler handles mythical's ... not certain it will translate over to HCOTW ....

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What makes the Anglers system work is that everyone is playing on the same sever .... and the spawn location is the same for everyone on every server ..... EW has said that a client server setup like the Angler has is not possible with its older engine .....

So this might be something they would do in HCOTW 2.0 but not sure it would work under the current system with the older engine ....

lethal wedge
# vapid pivot I'm familiar with how the Angler handles mythical's ... not certain it will tran...

I'm not relating Angler to our Hunter Mythicals. Mythicals are the new trophy focus instead of great ones in this case with numerous odd ball variants and variations. Where the Great ones similar to the Angler have a weekly rotation to hunt them by special means. The idea is each GO has a unique lure or track mechanic once your close on their trail. Wardens give you a clue as to not make it impossible and it'll be up to the player to pursuit them as they choose.

sacred grove
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@lethal wedge | ** The idea is each GO has a unique lure or track mechanic once your close on their trail. Wardens give you a clue as to not make it impossible and it'll be up to the player to pursuit them as they choose. ** |

Okay so now you are talking about using wardens to give you clues on how to find the G1 .... Now you are talking about the mission system that has been suggested in the other thread here .... https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1242416386031091753

lethal wedge
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I hate that legendary fish are in one spot thats why the GO would be moving around instead. Ex Moose Layton the GO the clue would be found in a specific unit but quite literally could be anywhere it'll be up tou the player to track it or use a special means to lure them out. Its not meant to be easy but still a challenge.

vapid pivot
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So this would just be a variation of the mission system already discussed ....

sacred grove
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Sounds like rdr2 legendary animals to me

lethal wedge
sacred grove
vapid pivot
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As we discussed in the other thread ... missions by themselves will probably not provide the rarity required to keep the G1 from being exploited .... Mission by themselves are also prone to bugs and exploits

For that reason it would probably be necessary to tie any mission based system to player progression and some kind of RT tracking ..... This is all explained in detail in the other thread ....

lethal wedge
# sacred grove Sounds like rdr2 legendary animals to me

I've never played RDR2, But Diamonds are still the same as they are it would be too much to alter that. Mythicals since I find them to be rare on their own I thought could use more focus as a target to have a whole lot more variations like non typical albinos, or battle torn wolves, one or half ear rabbits etc.

lethal wedge
vapid pivot
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If your interested in discussing this further I would be more than happy to do that in the other thread ... Forum protocols dictate that we need to keep like minded discussions group together ....

lethal wedge
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of course

lethal wedge
# sacred grove Tbh that would change the whole game. It would be a whole new game, idk if thats...

it would steer a new focus for sure but it was an alternative thought I had as a result to the bug fix. I'm not against anyone but GO's really arent all that on Xbox before the patch. And grindes are now left with nothing to grind and the methods have been stripped away due to the fix. I'm against instant spawns however as a casual ambush hunter I do want the respawn interval increased respectively more than it is currently.

sacred grove
# lethal wedge it would steer a new focus for sure but it was an alternative thought I had as a...

If u r a casual ambush hunter, this doesnt affect u in any way. I have been on bothsides an my expierience is that casual hunting is fun for 1-2 years after starting to play the game. But then it gets boring and the only interesting thing is to play endgame. For me Endgame are SR and GO. This Style of playing has kept me interestet in the game for the last 3 years. I dont want to go back being a casual ambush hunter because theres no reason for me anymore to do that. 99 % of the trophies u get are boring diamonds or small rares. I dont even tax these anymore for most of the species

lethal wedge
# sacred grove If u r a casual ambush hunter, this doesnt affect u in any way. I have been on b...

lol it actually did effect me an I seen that clear as day yesterday on several hunts I did solo since multiplayer got worse than before. And I get it, thats why I suggested mythicals over the great ones as the new grind bc trade communities ruined GO rarity like you wouldn't believe its sad really. Which is why I proposed Mythicals get unique reworks that can only be acquired from mythicals. Great Ones dont change appearance there iconic if you will. No matter what you'll see the same variant(s). Where Mythicals are not the same they are different, unique and randomly generated as some would put it with my proposal to the re-work.

sacred grove
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U dont understand my point. Idc about others. I dont hunt Great ones to show them off or something like that, i hunt them for me, for my lodge. Idc if somebody has 1 or 100 GO, even if they r legit or not. I just want my way of playing back as it was fun for me

lethal wedge
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Bottom line you can assume and judge me bc I'm a sim player at heart but that doesn't mean I dont get where grinders are coming from. But instant respawn isn't an answer and GO's we can agree to disagree about value, to each there own. I do want faster respawns within reason bc yea it does take forever and I also dont have the time to just sit all day. But Mythicals as is, are very under valued as they currently are. And I'd like to see a shift of focus on them as well.

sacred grove
lethal wedge
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lethal wedge
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the hunter has never been a shooting gallery game and it has been an issue for years and ppl were unaware of it and considered it normal when in fact it was not. Now Idc how you play or why thats your musd to play the game your entitled to play how you want but instant spawns was never meant to be a thing however this 20min +rate I dont think is ideal on there part so I can see it redone to 5min respawns over 20min, but nvr instant unless you get the option to custom set your game then thats different.

sacred grove
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I would be fine with 5 min even max 10 min.
But to get this we have to show EW how upset we are over the changes they made behind our back

lethal wedge
sacred grove
lethal wedge
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I dont disagree however hostility will get ppl nowhere fast and thats the issue ppl are fighting amoung whose what over being civil to find a solution

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they will not back track thats a fact so instead alternatives need to be suggested that works as a whole not just one side or the other. If it continues with hostile debates and rants then nothing will be done and the company could decide to shift to being independent and take the hit and losses. Its happend before, I dont want to see that happen bc this has authentic elements.

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Bare that in mind. If you dont care then I dont have anything else to say on the subject.

sacred grove
lethal wedge
# sacred grove If nothing changes, the i will be gone sooner or later, because i tried but cant...

Thats fair & I get where you're coming from. I get backlash a lot 😄 for my view but I dont judge. Theres only 2 things I despise and that was instant spawn bc it crashed my game a lot due to overloaded rendors and the Trade Community that deliberately exploited endgame content. I loved doing grinds with a friend here in there as a change of pace. Even if its not my style hell my wife is a run & gun n I have no clue how she does it but needless to say I banned her from stressing my reserve all over the place 🤣

sacred grove
# lethal wedge Thats fair & I get where you're coming from. I get backlash a lot 😄 for my view...

I undetstand that instant respawn is not the way to go, i just hope they make change of the respawn time to a maximum of 10 min, because this would make grinds possible again. I would have to change a lot of my set ups but i wouldnt have a Problem to invest more into the game, if they hear our concerns and fix them as fast as possible. I think then the community wouldnt be as divided as it is now

lethal wedge
sacred grove
lethal wedge
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Honestly they probably would have or rather Jaxy would since hes the middle man but lets be real ppl are fuming right now and I seen Jaxy struggle to talk with the tension so high. So I'd give it time to a.....calm down a bit before they reply.

ebon lark
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No!!

lethal wedge
sick bear
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I dont agree with you

lethal wedge
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Thats cool

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I didn't expect many would bc everyone likes the old mechanic, were I loathe it with a passion 🤣 but I respect the honesty.

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lethal wedge
# ebon lark ok

Ex. Lions you take out the pride of 7 then the GO Alpha Male appears. •GO Wolves: you have to trespass on the packs territory and cull the 10ct pack to get the Alpha Male or Female to appear. Mtn Lion track, trespass, and after you made 3 pushes out of its den it'll agro n hunt you. Things like that. Whether it can be done is ? at best but I feel like that would be more stimulating then sacrifices or a random encounter.

ebon lark
lethal wedge
# ebon lark It wouldn't be a good age so everyone would have GO much easier

GO's are iconic and really dont change. So switch to Mythicals that have multiple random generated qualities and features for more assortment trophies. I'm sry GO's are really cool but boring when you visit lodges and a lot of ppl have them. As a personal collector I get it, but I'd like to see more game with various attributes like a rabbit half or 1 ear, a wolf battle scared, a deer with 1 antler or broken tines. That what I picture as Mythical.

ebon lark
lethal wedge
ebon lark
lethal wedge
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But yea thats the idea I had on a possible Great One/Mythical re-work.

ebon lark
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yes!!

swift dagger
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It’s good to see some ideas being put out there, it would nice to see something like this… anything different to mix it up a bit, I’ve found with any rng based game it’s keep shooting until it appears ( I guess it’s a grind no matter what your game style due to rng when I think about it), but I get bored eventually of rinse and repeat, when we get new missions it gives me a welcome break. Finding different ways to keep it interesting is welcome.

lethal wedge
swift dagger
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@lethal wedge your most welcome, I think anyone who is willing to put stuff out there is doing us all and the game a service,

sacred grove
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But im still kind of upset. 🤣

lethal wedge
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weary ibex
lethal wedge
# weary ibex

send me the link if your able I'm curious as to why if anyone explianed there reasoning