#Aggression changes for various animals!

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viscid zephyr
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A lot of people have mentioned remodels for these animals already, and with a remodel, I personally wanna see reworks as well!
The three animals I'm talking about are grizzlies, wolves, and lions.
(Honorable mention to black and brown bears)

These changes will mainly focus on aggression. I wanna feel fear when I encounter the mighty Alaskan grizzly, I don't want lions to run from a .22 shot, and wolves are TOO aggressive imo.

My proposed change to grizzly behavior is fairly simple, I hope. When you alert a grizzly bear and it stands, there's a 25-50% chance of the bear charging you. If you stand your ground or fire a loud weapon close to it or at it, it'll flee. However there's a small chance that mostly the large grizzlies (7, 8, 9) won't stop, and will attack the player. Or if the player doesn't hold their ground. And by "attack", I mean more than a little slap. This could also add something to use whistling for!
(I don't think this would work for black bears, but it could maybe for brown bears)

As for wolves, they shouldn't be so aggressive. I'd like if it was toned down, but they were made more dangerous. Perhaps not reacting fast enough will cause them to bite your hands and make it harder to fight back. They should also circle you instead of growling and standing there before charging.

Lions NEED a pride mechanic. I say 1-2 males and 4-5 females each inhabiting a territory in Vurhonga. They spend more time resting, and shooting at any member of the pride or getting close (40 ish meters) will cause the males to attack you. It'd also make so much more sense to see prides drinking together. I'd also like if lions went aggressive if you wounded them poorly and attempted to track them down, as in Africa you have to use a minimum of a .375 caliber rifle to prevent long tracks for that reason, if I remember right.

umbral grotto
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Need Lion coalitions too, exclusively 3/4 males.

viscid zephyr
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That's also a really good idea! Couldn't put in enough words to mention it myself

umbral grotto
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Also when you are low on health, the probability for attack should increase by… maybe 10%? EW would have to mess around with it a little more to get it perfect.

viscid zephyr
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That'd be really good, as if you're bleeding or something

umbral grotto
minor fiber
viscid zephyr
minor fiber
viscid zephyr
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Agreed! I think it'd be more like how the bears are now, just a slap and they dip. For coyotes it'd be more of a bite though

umbral grotto
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Another idea, when too close to a grizzlies feedzone it will guarantee (or very close to) an attack (would be signified by the classic grizzly bear roar, you know the one😉)

viscid zephyr
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The same could go for wolves, they aren't too keen on sharing lol

viscid zephyr
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Bump

viscid zephyr
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Bumparoo

reef comet
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Yes aggression AI should be more nuanced to better fit the specific animal .... Not all aggressive animals should act like charging buffalo's ...

viscid zephyr
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The buffalo could also probably use a little aggression change. I'm not sure what it could be, but rn they just feel annoying

umbral grotto
viscid zephyr
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Agreed. They should also like...actually charge

viscid zephyr
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Bump

viscid zephyr
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Bump

viscid zephyr
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Bump

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Grizzly, wolf, and lion aggression changes!

umbral grotto
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I think making the buffalo (water and capes) like 5x faster would make them much more formidable opponents, would remind many why they are so terrifying.

viscid zephyr
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I personally want them to charge, not just run around in circles attempting to ram you

umbral grotto
viscid zephyr
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Yeah, right now you just side step them and shoot them so easily. They're also a little too aggressive imo, like wolves. Less aggressive but more dangerous, although I think capes and yaks wouldn't be that much less aggressive, just a smidge

umbral grotto
viscid zephyr
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Fair enough! I get charged by more water buffalo and yaks than I do capes

umbral grotto
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I’d even say it could be increased. There should be a massive fear a completely different buffalo than the one you’re aiming at jumps you through the brush because he was late to his zones.

Cape buffalo have the mental capacity to have vendettas and they GLADLY take care of ‘em.

viscid zephyr
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Absolutely. Capes are known for being complete menaces

ruby thicket
umbral grotto
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Also those teeth make them look silly ingame and it’s completely unrealistic.

viscid zephyr
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Aggression changes for various animals!

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More fitting title. But yeah, the teeth they have are goofy on the wall mounts especially. They should look more...rugged overall, if that's the right word for it

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Capes should look meaner on top of being meaner

turbid storm
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The aggression of wolves is basically what grizzly and brown bears should do when they are hungry upon seeing the player. 😂

minor fiber
viscid zephyr
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Fair! I'm not too educated on bovids, but they feel like they're attacking me constantly sometimes and I wasn't sure if that's how they are lol

minor fiber
viscid zephyr
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Bluff charges are something I really want in game. The bears should do it and definitely the water buffalo too. Capes should probably be more aggressive as I personally find them fleeing more than attacking

turbid storm
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They shouldn't run away hearing the sound of the hunter actually running, that should irritate everyone foxBlush

umbral grotto
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I think my preferred “Aggression Update” would include:

Buffalos

6% aggression increased

5x speed increase

3 new move sets

Decrease aggression for water beef

Wolves

Gray wolves would be passive, but very territorial

European wolves would be somewhat aggressive, and very territorial much like real life, most wolf attacks come from Europe.

Bison

2-3 more move sets

Yak defensive mode mechanics?

Bears

Grizzly and Brown bears 30% territorial increase when near feed and rest zones, can result in death

Use Snow leopard mechanics (little higher maybe? 25/30 individuals?)

Bluff Charges

Mountain lions/Pumas

Bluff charges

Snow leopard population system (16-25 individuals?)

Yaks

Less aggressive, more territorial and defensive

Crocs and kangaroos

15% damage increase

Lions

Pride and coalition mechanics

Coyotes

Low aggression, but make it possible

Better “pack” mechanics

viscid zephyr
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I like this a lot! Coyotes I find should be like the current bears, nip you once before fleeing. Crocs doing more damage feels necessary, it's a friggin crocodile, same for gators

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It could just be me, but I also find the Iberian wolves to be more aggressive than gray wolves already. I get attacked by em far more often

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Also, on the idea of bovids moving faster. Here's a really unhappy yak

grave steppe
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Yes!! Yukon needs desperately needs love. Most of those animals are very dangerous and aggressive. The animals look so outdated and definitely need some love and rework. Atleast give us the option to turn the animals on aggressive or not. Maybe for killing animals with it on we get more xp and more cash? If other wanna play it safe that’s fine too but won’t be rewarded as much as the players that have it turned on

lethal osprey
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Grizzlies and lions for sure need this

reef comet
reef comet
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Also with female bears (black/brown) make it a 30%-50% chance that they will have cubs nearby. And if you get within a certain distance they will automatically go aggressive .....

viscid zephyr
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Injuries could be a nice mechanic, but I feel they'd be really frustrating as well

reef comet
viscid zephyr
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Fair! I didn't read that part, mb :)

simple drift
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Agree with all, except leave wolf aggression as is

viscid zephyr
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I just find them too aggressive. Wolves ain't that mean

umbral grotto
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Wolves avoid us at all cost

viscid zephyr
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Wolves aren't aggressive, just territorial

viscid zephyr
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Bump!

viscid zephyr
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Bump

viscid zephyr
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Bump

viscid zephyr
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Bump! Need angrier grizzlies :)

viscid zephyr
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Bump

viscid zephyr
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Another idea, when wolves attack the player and bark

Have them actually look like they're barking. There's no animation for it, the sound just kinda plays when they run at you

viscid zephyr
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Bump

viscid zephyr
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Aggressive geese when